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<pasky> would people mind if in the station info window the ratings box would have by default the same height as the accepts box and stretch on demand? 06:58:07 <peter1138> i wouldn't 06:58:23 <peter1138> but that's only me 07:00:03 <Tron> monday... it must be some kind of conspiracy that monday follows after sunday *yawn* 07:00:15 <hector3d> LOL 07:12:31 *** stavrosg is now known as stavrosg_ 07:17:41 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.13.112] has joined #openttd 07:26:24 *** copperc0re [n=copperco@dpc691921194.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 07:28:52 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181100200.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:30:17 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 07:39:49 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181100200.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 07:42:47 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 07:43:35 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 07:45:20 *** coppercore 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angerman_ [n=angerman@e181083132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:44:28 <Darkvater> fucking great. 08:44:32 <Darkvater> lost the elections :S 08:46:25 <peter1138> what elections? 08:46:32 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:47:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77685.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:47:46 <Darkvater> Hungary 08:51:13 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@88.240.22.47] has joined #openttd 08:55:25 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:03:11 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181083132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 09:04:54 <peter1138> trying to take over hungary, were you? 09:06:22 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B815A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:06:23 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B815A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:06:58 <Darkvater> would've been nice, yes ;) 09:07:14 <peter1138> then you'd have no time for ottd 09:07:38 <Darkvater> on a completely different note...I only realized that my whole foot was covered in blood after a blister 'broke' yesterday 09:07:42 <Darkvater> brr 09:08:01 <hector3d> Someone already tried to compile openttd for an ARM processor? 09:16:48 *** tiberius1eng [i=tiberius@211-74-179-124.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 09:18:09 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 09:18:42 <Darkvater> hector3d: don't think so 09:18:47 <Darkvater> you can try :) 09:19:16 <peter1138> well someone made a RISC OS version, so... 09:21:26 *** tron_ [n=tron@p54A3EE9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:21:45 <hector3d> Ok I'll try it after work. Would surely look great on an Poket PC :) 09:22:04 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:22:10 <peter1138> assuming the screen's big enough 09:22:43 <peter1138> resolution wise, heh 09:27:32 <CIA-3> tron * r4563 /branch/bridge/tunnelbridge_cmd.c: GB() -> appropriate function 09:32:20 *** tiberiusteng [i=tiberius@211-74-179-218.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:42:51 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:52:23 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:53:35 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:55:23 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 09:58:55 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2E464.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:58:55 *** dp is now known as dp-- 10:15:04 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:36:05 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176117202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:40:37 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:49:42 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3EE9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:49:42 *** tron_ is now known as Tron 10:49:42 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3EE9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:12 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-199-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:12:51 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable254.254-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 11:25:23 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit ["<volcone> tycker inte man borde få idrotta i skolan, eftersom man springer så jävulskt mkt i wow"] 11:35:01 *** ledow [n=root@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 11:37:00 *** Patrick` [n=pitt2@i-195-137-14-213.freedom2surf.net] has left #openttd ["This channel has been garbage collected"] 11:44:27 *** ledow [n=root@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has quit ["ircII EPIC4-2.0 -- Are we there yet?"] 11:50:40 <Darkvater> is everybody at work today? or have a day off (eg peter1138)? 11:50:47 <Darkvater> very, very dead today... 11:52:25 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:08:07 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 12:08:33 <MeusH> hello 12:09:12 <Darkvater> 'hi 12:13:36 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:13:38 *** tank_ [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 12:17:52 <MeusH> Celestar: Have you seen "advanced city management" patch? 12:17:52 <MeusH> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24759 12:18:07 <MeusH> a possible candidate for your re-balancing process 12:20:44 <peter1138> Darkvater: yeah, i've got the day off 12:20:48 <peter1138> we just looked at more houses 12:21:11 <Jango> there's several patches around for better cities 12:21:23 <Jango> it looks interesting 12:21:34 <Darkvater> peter1138: hehe, I figured :P 12:21:43 <Darkvater> peter1138: found any interesting ones? 12:21:49 <peter1138> yeah 12:21:58 <peter1138> needs a bit of work as the garden is all gravel 12:22:11 <peter1138> but it's fairly near the pool and shops, etc 12:22:35 <peter1138> now i just have to find £185,000... 12:23:51 <Darkvater> is that a mid-range in England? 12:23:53 <black_Nightmare> me is just busy in mulitplayer now anyhow :p 12:24:43 <peter1138> yeah 12:24:48 <peter1138> in this area, anyway 12:28:36 <Darkvater> why even have a garden if it's all gravel? totally strikes me as odd 12:28:48 <peter1138> "low maintenance" 12:28:58 <peter1138> we'd rip that up, somehow 12:30:04 <Darkvater> :) 12:30:12 <Darkvater> hurray for manual labour, eh? ;p 12:30:35 *** gass [n=any@81.84.150.30] has joined #openttd 12:31:52 *** MeusH is now known as Meush[brb] 12:32:28 *** glx is now known as glx|away 12:34:11 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-0350.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:39:35 <Jango> peter1138: whereabouts in uk would that be? 12:42:09 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-61-21.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:45:48 <peter1138> buckinghamshire 12:52:37 *** ThePizzaKing is now known as TPK|Sleep 12:55:47 <gass> can you say to me if your webtranslator is opensource? 12:55:53 <Jango> i imagine things aren't cheap there...mind you, i expect the only place you can buy a house for < 150k is up north somewhere 12:56:36 *** Meush[brb] is now known as MeusH 12:56:44 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 12:59:08 *** Tron__ [n=tron@p54A3E68D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:00:16 *** TronBSD [n=tron@p54A3E68D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:01:39 <black_Nightmare> can the airplanes carry foods? 13:02:19 <MeusH> why not? 13:02:22 <MeusH> s/foods/food 13:02:59 <MeusH> check the planeset newgrf, I think there are some planes refitable to carry food 13:03:36 <black_Nightmare> well wanted check before I level to build a large airport for nothing so ... :P 13:04:00 <MeusH> allright I'll check it 13:04:04 <MeusH> with no planeset 13:04:32 <black_Nightmare> heh thanks a lot anyhow 13:05:21 <MeusH> 57 tones 13:05:35 <MeusH> The first truck carries 17 tonnes 13:05:38 <MeusH> I checked... 13:05:50 <MeusH> Bakewell Costwald LB-8 13:06:10 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 13:06:10 <MeusH> real: McDonnel Douglas DC-8 13:06:25 <black_Nightmare> thanks :-D 13:06:42 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 13:06:43 <MeusH[away]> np 13:06:58 <black_Nightmare> truck wheat&livestock to processing plant then fly the foods out to another city via a small plane :-) 13:07:10 <black_Nightmare> should be fun....already working on building 2nd airport now 13:08:27 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-239-33.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:08:31 <Sacro> afternoon all 13:08:31 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:08:51 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3EE9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:08:53 *** Tron__ is now known as Tron 13:11:01 <peter1138> but airports require no work to build 13:14:01 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3EE9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:14:06 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:16:45 <Sacro> hehehe, rewrite of OTTD in QBasic 13:17:23 <peter1138> ... 13:17:47 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24738 13:18:44 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:18:57 <peter1138> heh 13:19:48 <guru3> mmm QB 13:19:51 <guru3> haven't seen that in ages 13:21:01 <Sacro> me neither 13:22:52 <Qball> who the hell 13:23:01 <Qball> in qbasic 13:23:08 <guru3> lol 13:23:26 <black_Nightmare> qbasic? does that mean it'll run well in dos? :-) 13:23:44 <Sacro> it depends whether they compile it, or just run it through the translator 13:24:05 <guru3> there's a c->qb translator? 13:24:31 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 13:30:21 <Sacro> is there? 13:30:24 <guru3> i don't know 13:30:27 <guru3> i thought you knew 13:33:26 <Sacro> nah, i think theres one from qb -> c though 13:34:22 <guru3> heh 13:34:49 <guru3> would be funky to have ottd in qb tho 13:36:25 <guru3> and scary come to think of it 13:37:36 *** MeusH[away] is now known as MeusH 13:38:21 <Sacro> yeah, cant see it running very fast 13:44:01 <guru3> would be hell incarnate 13:44:06 <guru3> and not very cross platform :/ 13:52:25 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 13:52:50 <black_Nightmare> was there a 2000+mph plane? 13:53:22 <black_Nightmare> I'm sure I thought I saw one before but can't recall now... its year 2031 now and only have two 1448mph planes 13:56:40 <MeusH> 2034 - three supersonic planes 13:58:17 <MeusH> but no > 2000mph 14:00:51 <MeusH> Devs: STR_TRANSLATED_BY is in the strings but it is not being used in the code 14:01:09 <MeusH> maybye it was deleted by accident... but I think its place is in the about box 14:04:03 <Darkvater> it was not an accident. Not one of the translators used it even after repeated requests so I dropped it 14:10:39 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 14:17:46 <peter1138> hmm 14:21:34 <Darkvater> goddammit fucking excel just crashed... 14:21:39 <Darkvater> wasting at least an hour of work 14:22:53 <Darkvater> hmm, make that 2 14:22:57 <guru3> and that's why excel is an oxymoron 14:23:02 <guru3> along with microsoft works 14:24:17 <Sacro> Darkvater: open excel on its own, ie not your save, and see if autosave grabbed it 14:25:48 <Darkvater> Sacro: yeah right... 14:25:56 <Darkvater> unfortunately excel2000 is too stupid for this 14:30:54 * Darkvater saves like a madman now; after every typed character 14:32:47 *** Patrick` [n=pitt2@i-195-137-14-213.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:57 <Patrick`> how does openttd set the svn revision number inside the game? 14:32:59 <Patrick`> as the main title 14:33:55 *** [2]Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-187-114.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:34:01 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-239-33.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:34:08 *** [2]Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-187-114.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Client Quit] 14:34:23 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-187-114.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:35:13 <Sacro> hmm 14:39:42 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 14:40:27 *** glx|away is now known as glx 14:42:40 <meeps> hello there does anybody know the var that changes the mapsize in openttd.cfg ? 14:42:55 <meeps> or a comprehensive guide would do, so i could stop asking you guys :D 14:43:13 <Tron> j 14:43:22 <Sacro> map_x and map_y 14:43:41 <meeps> thx 14:43:58 <Sacro> and wiki.openttd.org has a bit of info 14:44:12 <meeps> thx :) 14:44:22 <meeps> going to run 16x16 then :D 14:45:15 <Darkvater> meeps: won't work, minimal is 64x64 14:45:28 <meeps> heh 14:45:35 <meeps> map_x and map_y appear to be set to 8 each 14:45:42 <meeps> so i figured id be doubling it by setting both to 16 14:45:43 <meeps> :) 14:45:54 <meeps> this is in openttd.cfg yes 14:45:55 <Tron> it 14:45:59 <Tron> it's logarithmic 14:46:12 <meeps> heh , so its ok set to 16x16 :P 14:46:17 <Tron> no 14:46:20 <meeps> hmm 14:46:24 <Tron> 12 is max 14:46:24 <meeps> it was set to 8 x 8 14:46:28 <meeps> ohh :> 14:46:31 <meeps> beg your pardon sir. 14:46:38 <meeps> so i am right, for the wrong reasons :P lol 14:47:09 <Tron> uh, no 14:48:01 <[Shaman]> hmf, maybe a small suggestion for 0.5 .. the chat thingie bigger :P 14:48:15 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181083132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:48:38 <meeps> thanks again. 14:48:46 <[Shaman]> or maybe turn it into a movable/sizable window or summat 14:57:27 <black_Nightmare> shaman...use the console 14:57:38 <black_Nightmare> it let you see almost the rest of the chat (except it seem to have limited buffer) 15:03:17 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:03:50 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:04:40 *** jnmbk_ [n=jnmbk@88.240.22.47] has joined #openttd 15:04:40 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@88.240.22.47] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:05:47 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:06:51 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:09:03 <Brianetta> Holy throbbing haemorrhoids, Batman! 15:13:33 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36C3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:08 <Sacro> you ok? 15:14:35 <hylje> no 15:20:30 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.104.228] has joined #openttd 15:20:50 <UnderBuilder> recently I joined #opentt lol 15:21:06 <UnderBuilder> there was only I, and as operator lol 15:23:22 <Patrick`> yep, that's IRC. 15:25:51 <UnderBuilder> ah, and hi 15:30:57 <Pixelz> oh my god 15:31:06 <Pixelz> secunia released an advisory on openttd 15:31:11 <hylje> :D 15:31:14 <Pixelz> http://secunia.com/advisories/19768/ 15:31:23 <Pixelz> "OpenTTD Error Number Handling Denial of Service" 15:31:30 <Patrick`> hahahahahahaha 15:31:31 <Patrick`> FIX IT 15:31:59 <Patrick`> oh, it has 15:32:06 <Patrick`> fixed in the cvs repositories 15:32:09 <Patrick`> hahahahah, cvs 15:33:08 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:33:09 <Mukke> jae 15:33:18 <Mukke> (wrong window :) 15:34:58 <meeps> lol 15:35:00 <meeps> uh oh :| 15:35:10 <meeps> hey UnderBuilder :) 15:37:13 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:37:53 *** jnmbk_ [n=jnmbk@88.240.22.47] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:38:40 <Brianetta> Note: It has also been reported that an error exists in the client within the handling of the packet size field in a received UDP. This can cause the client to return immediately to the main menu via replies sent from a malicious server. 15:38:48 <Brianetta> What a load of piffle 15:38:58 <Brianetta> All a malicious server has to do is kick the player 15:39:28 <Pixelz> heh 15:39:42 <Brianetta> Who'd want to remain connected to a malicious server anyway? 15:43:32 <black_Nightmare> was just trying plow track through middle of city then thought about this....... 15:43:44 <black_Nightmare> why can't roadcrossing barrier come down when the train is further away? 15:43:58 <black_Nightmare> I mean 1 tile far away is way too "close" for maglevs :p 15:44:29 <hylje> you shouldnt have road crossings for maglevs anyway 15:44:52 <black_Nightmare> well there's almost no space to bridge inside the city.....too many streets lol 15:44:53 <UnderBuilder> is there a xbox version of ottd? 15:45:08 <black_Nightmare> and the patch for deleting more road tiles is.... off (its not my server btw) 15:45:12 <black_Nightmare> ^_^ 15:45:25 <Brianetta> It's not 1 tile 15:45:27 <Brianetta> It's 0.5 tile 15:46:05 <black_Nightmare> meh 15:46:09 <black_Nightmare> I mean...why? lol 15:46:11 <Brianetta> (: 15:46:24 <black_Nightmare> for early rail engines its ok but for later fast rail engines and any monorail/maglev this is way too close 15:46:26 <black_Nightmare> :p 15:46:39 <Brianetta> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=22734& 15:46:41 <Brianetta> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=22734 15:46:45 <Brianetta> Read and agree 15:47:09 <C-Otto> *read* 15:47:17 <C-Otto> *too much text* 15:48:02 <Brianetta> Stick with it (: 15:48:05 <black_Nightmare> lol c-otto :)) heheheh 15:49:23 <C-Otto> i totally agree to the second post :)) 15:49:44 <Brianetta> That's a completely different problem. 15:49:50 <C-Otto> it's very funny to build roads up and down trough a friend's tracks to make him mad :)) 15:50:00 <C-Otto> i also agree to the first post, but only partially 15:50:08 <Brianetta> It makes me mad - can't build signals. 15:50:16 <Brianetta> Partially? 15:50:20 <Brianetta> Which part, specifically? 15:50:24 <C-Otto> instead of the signal solution i'd use an automatic calculation of the closing time 15:50:37 <Brianetta> Signals are what's used in real lif.e 15:50:40 <Brianetta> Try this 15:50:46 <Brianetta> Go to a level crossing with a jump lead 15:50:52 <Brianetta> Connect the two rails with the lead 15:50:52 <C-Otto> what is a jump lead? 15:51:02 <Brianetta> Watch in awe as the barriers fall, and yet no train arrives 15:51:12 <Brianetta> It's a long electric cable with clips on the ends 15:51:20 <C-Otto> ah, okay 15:51:22 <C-Otto> for cars 15:51:26 <Brianetta> Yes 15:51:29 <Brianetta> Borrow one (: 15:51:32 <C-Otto> like mine... which is standing at the train station and has no power .( 15:52:23 <C-Otto> i still like the idea of automatic calculation 15:52:43 <C-Otto> this is what the real life building guys do when determining the place of the signal that triggers the crossing 15:52:56 <C-Otto> so take into account the speed of trains and cars and combine that 15:53:14 <C-Otto> additionally it would be very annoying to replace the signal with every new train generation 15:53:22 <Brianetta> erm 15:53:38 <C-Otto> and perhaps two trains should follow directly after another, which is blocked by a too high signal distance (for the crossing) 15:53:47 <Brianetta> in real life, as I said, crossings are controlled by the track circuit, which also controls the signals 15:53:59 <Brianetta> Not some guy 15:54:03 <C-Otto> yes, sure 15:54:04 <Brianetta> not some trigger 15:54:18 <C-Otto> but before this signal is built someone calculates where it should be built 15:54:30 <C-Otto> build? 15:54:43 <C-Otto> no, built. 15:54:44 <C-Otto> or so :) 15:54:51 <UnderBuilder> is there a xbox version of ottd? 15:55:03 <Brianetta> UnderBuilder: Never heard of one 15:55:26 <UnderBuilder> will be cool one no? 15:55:35 <Brianetta> Nope 15:56:02 <Brianetta> You'd have to either use the xbox controller, or bu overpriced peripherals 15:56:22 <Brianetta> Not to mention the fact that you'd have to play on a low-res telly 15:56:22 <hylje> and xbox is not friendly to homebrew stuff 15:56:45 <UnderBuilder> and the binaries can't be distributed 15:56:47 <hylje> it got kinda better with xboxlinux but xbox360 is afaik still standing 16:04:36 <black_Nightmare> heh me like this idea http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21827 :) 16:04:42 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-0350.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 16:05:20 *** |VillageIdiot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:18:03 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:28 <Patrick`> fracking AI 16:24:37 <Patrick`> made some cities grow huge right where I want to build 16:25:00 <Sacro> maybe OTTD on ps3 will be nice, with HD output and ps2 mouse 16:25:04 <Sacro> s/ps2/usb 16:25:20 <Brianetta> consoles, in general, suck. 16:25:32 <Brianetta> You can't alt-tab and chat about your game on IRC or anything 16:27:03 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:29:06 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:29:17 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:43 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8D6533.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 16:33:14 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable254.254-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 16:33:56 <XeryusTC> <Brianetta> You can't alt-tab and chat about your game on IRC or anything <- most modern consoles support headsets to talk to eachother with (like xbox live) 16:34:30 <Brianetta> It's not the people in the game I want to chat to 16:34:45 <Brianetta> I can talk to them in-game, assuming it's multiplayer 16:35:07 <Sacro> inbuilt IRC client 16:35:24 <Brianetta> I have an IRC client, which I am quite attached to. (: 16:35:31 <Sacro> ssh into it 16:35:38 <Brianetta> From a console? 16:35:41 <Sacro> yeah 16:35:45 <Brianetta> yuck 16:35:50 <Brianetta> does it have X forwarding? 16:35:51 <XeryusTC> get a laptop :) 16:36:09 <Brianetta> XeryusTC: I have one. I can play OpenTTD on that. 16:36:11 * Sacro hits PHP with a large stick 16:37:06 <[Shaman]> [black_Nightmare]: it let you see almost the rest of the chat (except it seem to have limited buffer) << Was more thinking of allowing a chat-input of more than 100-ish characters, and chat-display on screen that's the same size 16:37:18 <[Shaman]> if you now say something of maximum chat length the last few letters get cut off 16:37:22 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: now get a console, an ottd port and put your favorite irc client on the laptop ;) 16:37:26 <[Shaman]> (plus the limit is -way- to short for my likings :P ) 16:38:26 <Patrick`> orry? 16:40:34 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:41:51 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:42:09 <MiHaMeK> Tron: are you here? 16:43:24 <Tron> yes 16:44:19 <FauxFaux> You could use that crazy in-game irc client that crazy guy called "FauxFaux" wrote! 16:45:38 <MiHaMeK> Tron: ok, will tell you next time, since I have to go now :) 16:45:45 <Tron> *sigh* 16:46:49 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:07 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 16:51:48 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:53:25 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:53:31 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:54:52 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@88.240.22.47] has joined #openttd 16:56:10 *** Jerre [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:59:13 *** Jango [n=Jango@mettab.demon.co.uk] has quit ["Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'"] 17:00:04 * Brianetta fails to see why he should get a console in addition to the laptop, when the laptop does OpenTTD already 17:01:52 <FauxFaux> Laptops have the same probelm as consoles, you can't upgrade them much :) 17:09:20 <Brianetta> FauxFaux: Irrelevant. 17:10:05 <Brianetta> When was the last time you needed to upgrade hardware to run OpenTTD? 17:11:09 <Brianetta> I have to go home 17:11:13 <Brianetta> back soon 17:11:14 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tsch??"] 17:17:13 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:17:22 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:19:19 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2D021.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:34 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 17:20:22 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 17:21:03 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-187-114.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:23:05 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has joined #openttd 17:25:41 <Patrick`> torro! torro! 17:27:19 *** orudge [n=orudge@res05-ocr2.res.st-and.ac.uk] has quit [] 17:29:25 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:32:13 <CIA-3> belugas * r4564 /trunk/table/ (landscape_const.h sprites.h): CodeChange : Constify the sprites of _cargo_types_base_values 17:37:37 *** orudge [n=orudge@res05-ocr2.res.st-and.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 17:42:41 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 17:43:26 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:46:27 *** spoot [n=hell_no@spoot.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:46:47 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3E68D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 17:46:56 *** TronBSD is now known as Tron 17:47:15 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 17:50:52 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54947829.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:03 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:55:58 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.104.228] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 18:01:04 <CIA-3> tron * r4565 /branch/bridge/ (bridge_map.c openttd.c): Bit fiddling -> appropriate functions 18:02:43 *** kujeger_II [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 18:02:43 *** ZsoL_ [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:02:57 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has joined #openttd 18:03:48 <webfreakz> what is gonna happen to /branch/bridge/ ? 18:03:55 <webfreakz> what is tron going to rewrite? 18:04:08 <Tron> read the svn log 18:04:10 <webfreakz> okay, something with bridges... but what? 18:04:12 <webfreakz> ok 18:04:43 <Darkvater> if you donnu keep silent, pray a lot, and wait :) 18:04:52 <webfreakz> \o/ 18:06:29 <webfreakz> "Make a branch for experimental changes to bridges, which allow arbitrary stuff under them." such as diagonal tracks? 18:06:37 <hylje> yes 19:15:39 *** SpComb [i=terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 19:15:43 <Celestar> ssh -L sombox.somedomain:someport -l me anotherbox -N 19:15:44 <Celestar> ? 19:16:10 <Darkvater> use putty? :) 19:16:19 <Tron> -L port:host:hostport 19:16:46 <Celestar> hm . 19:16:47 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:16:59 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:17:08 <Celestar> I cannot specify the hostport 19:17:11 <Celestar> er. 19:17:12 <Celestar> localport 19:17:16 <Tron> localhost:port gets forwarded to host:hostport 19:17:23 <Tron> there's also -R 19:17:56 <Belugas> pasky : Only real interesting reference I have found : window.c:1544 function InvalideWidget 19:18:24 <Celestar> Tron: I dunno where this damn connection will "start" 19:18:42 <Tron> pm 19:20:27 <TL|Away> I want to mute 'lilo' :( 19:20:32 <TL|Away> Idiotic spamming 19:20:56 <hylje> irssi: /ignore *!*@freenode/staff* notices 19:21:08 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176117202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:21:15 <TL|Away> really idiotic to spam over and over about SOC 19:21:21 <TL|Away> what is this, one big commercial IRC? 19:21:23 <TL|Away> :s 19:21:27 * TL|Away shots FreeNode 19:21:32 <TL|Away> annoys me more and more every day 19:21:43 <hylje> just use the above ignore mask and youre fine 19:22:00 <TL|Away> It is not about that, sometimes he does talk useful things 19:22:06 <TL|Away> just this SOC is just plain spam 19:22:09 <TL|Away> no other words for it 19:22:23 <TL|Away> one time, acceptable 19:22:30 <hylje> and what is this soc 19:22:32 <TL|Away> but this already is the second time, and I am sure many more to come 19:22:39 <TL|Away> Summer of Code, google blabla 19:22:45 <hylje> ah 19:24:14 <gass> TL|Away: it is a good chance for opensource push 19:24:36 <TL|Away> But I hate it when people spam me 19:24:44 <TL|Away> I don't like it in my mailbox, not on MSN, not on ICQ 19:24:50 <TL|Away> and also not on IRC :( 19:25:00 <TL|Away> but okay, I will stop bitching 19:25:05 <TL|Away> told lilo wha tI thought of it 19:25:27 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable254.254-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 19:25:29 <Darkvater> I think he has you on ignore by now ;) 19:25:48 <TL|Away> Would not supprise me :p 19:26:53 <ln-> let's invite lilo here and Tron can kick him. 19:27:04 <TL|Away> hehe 19:27:47 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[brb] 19:29:41 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Success] 19:29:41 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 19:29:59 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-186.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:30:00 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-61-21.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:35:06 <black_Nightmare> just wondering but if you could pick your own settings for the server play..would you have liked relastic accerlation to be on or off? 19:35:21 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:35:57 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:36:00 *** |Jeroen| [n=Jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 19:36:36 *** MeusH[brb] is now known as MeusH 19:36:39 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 19:37:44 *** |Jeroen| [n=Jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:43:38 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-197-224.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 19:48:21 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 19:48:54 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 19:49:03 <peter1138> on 19:49:09 <RichK67> hi all 19:49:50 <black_Nightmare> me too....really helps a lot with doing long slopes rather than.....long tunnel or very expensive landscape-flattening (not to mention all these trees killed hurting nearby city ratings too) 19:49:56 <black_Nightmare> :-) 19:51:11 <MeusH> hi RichK67 19:51:27 *** |Jeroen| [n=Jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 19:51:27 <MeusH> black_Nightmare... and what are you talking about? 19:51:41 <MeusH> "[what?] really helps a lot...." 19:51:46 <peter1138> realistic acceleration 19:51:54 <peter1138> (as opposed to ttd's) 19:53:14 <RichK67> hi meush - any ideas about the patch website... what would be a good feature to add? should I try to keep an updated copy of each patch, or just link to the forum page? etc... http://ottd.rkhosting.co.uk/ 19:53:34 <peter1138> keep an updated copy 19:53:42 <peter1138> or even different versions 19:54:12 <MeusH> if you do have enough webspace 19:54:17 <MeusH> and if you have enough time 19:54:20 <MeusH> it would be nice 19:54:23 <RichK67> peter: we are talking *all* patches... i have 6Gb and 50Gb/month 19:54:45 <MeusH> hmm 19:54:50 <peter1138> patches aren't that big 19:54:53 <Darkvater> hmm, perhaps we could ask TrueLight to host it there? On your userpage if you get one? 19:55:19 <MeusH> if you do a well working patch mainteance system, you won't have much problem with it 19:55:32 <MeusH> especially if you allow patch authors to update their patches 19:55:38 <RichK67> it may be a big initial job creating all the pages/links, but once over the initial hump, i hope it wont be too bad 19:55:39 <TL|Away> Darkvater: he has one 19:55:47 <RichK67> yeah - that would be goal, meush 19:55:51 <MeusH> but if you're going to make a .htm for each patch, don't do that 19:56:04 <hylje> mod_rewrite 19:56:17 <RichK67> i was planning on a page per author, as shown with mine 19:56:35 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:56:47 <MeusH> but you're going to make it in php and use the DB, aren't you? 19:56:48 <Darkvater> ah, so did TL|Away object against putting it there or RichK67 doesn't want to? 19:56:53 <MeusH> "Refitt to nothing" <- s/tt/t 19:57:02 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 19:57:13 <RichK67> then i can get the authors to write their own text, then add easily 19:57:15 <peter1138> there isn't a "none" cargo type 19:57:28 <RichK67> yes, some in php, some direct 19:58:04 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:58:11 <Born_Acorn> mudernate lilo 19:58:13 <vondel> i'm running svn-version, and it is throwing IsSteepSlope assertions now and then 19:58:15 <Born_Acorn> mudernate! 19:58:21 <Darkvater> ah, php..that wont' work then on userpages :) 19:58:34 <RichK67> DV: what is "it"? i am talking about my newish Patch Master List website... for all patches to be a central source 19:58:36 <vondel> should i report something about those assertions? 19:58:52 <Tron> "svn-version" 19:58:59 <Darkvater> RichK67: I was thinking of 'it' being on your openttd userpage so you don't have to worry about traffic 19:59:00 <vondel> r4543 19:59:03 <Tron> WHICH OF THE 4565 VERSIONS? 19:59:10 <vondel> sorry ;) 19:59:19 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:59:26 <RichK67> i dont mind traffic :) ive tons available... i dont think ill get near 50Gb/month! 19:59:29 <Tron> update to at least 4547 19:59:30 * vondel does svn up 20:00:30 <peter1138> Tron: i guess versions don't matter with some software... "i have a problem with windows" is all you need to know, usually... 20:00:42 <RichK67> LOL 20:00:56 <vondel> here it does matter, i might try to report a fixed "bug", which takes my time, and dev-time 20:01:45 <RichK67> ah... i just noticed - we have DV and TL in the room :) any chance of a chat about getting the MiniIN pages working within the openttd.org site? 20:02:00 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:03:09 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 20:03:22 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:03:26 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:03:47 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 20:05:20 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181083132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 20:10:42 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:11:49 <CIA-3> miham * r4566 /trunk/lang/ (9 files in 2 dirs): 20:11:49 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 commit 20:11:49 <CIA-3> (Commitlog lost, sorry!) 20:11:49 <CIA-3> (Blame PEAR::VersionController::SVN!) 20:11:59 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 20:12:28 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has left #openttd [] 20:13:16 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 20:15:12 <Tron> MiHaMeK: ? 20:15:19 <MiHaMeK> Tron: yes? 20:15:31 <Tron> [18:45:38] <MiHaMeK> Tron: ok, will tell you next time, since I have to go now :) 20:15:55 <MiHaMeK> Tron: ahh, I just wanted to say that next time if you want to remove a string globally please do contact me :) 20:16:14 <Tron> any particular reason? 20:16:26 <MeusH> it messes in the DB 20:16:32 <MeusH> WebTranslator2 uses the database 20:16:34 <MiHaMeK> Tron: WT2 can remove the strings for you, you just need to remove the string from english.txt 20:16:35 <MeusH> to store changes 20:16:45 <MiHaMeK> MeusH: it doesn't mess up the DB 20:16:47 <hylje> anyone had issues with php/str_replace not functioning 20:16:51 * MeusH hides 20:16:52 <Tron> my shell script removes strings for me (: 20:17:02 <MiHaMeK> MeusH: please, don't try to speak instead of me :) 20:17:09 <MiHaMeK> Tron: ok, as you wish :) 20:17:18 <MiHaMeK> Tron: it was just a proposal 20:17:18 <Tron> if i don't remove them from all languages at once you get dozens of very annoying warnings 20:17:44 <MiHaMeK> Tron: well, the nightlies are generated after the language commit usually 20:17:57 <MeusH> MiHaMeK: once you said manual editing, without use of WT2 can cause seriouos problems with the database 20:18:02 <MiHaMeK> Tron: so this won't cause problem to you :) 20:18:03 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:18:12 <Tron> oh, i don't minde the nigthlies 20:18:25 <Tron> _I_ get those warnings 20:18:30 <MiHaMeK> Tron: lol :D 20:19:34 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 20:20:44 <Tron> is there a way to get detailed information about a translation without having a translator account? 20:21:04 <MiHaMeK> Tron: what detailed information do you mean? 20:22:09 <Tron> pending strings for example 20:22:33 <MiHaMeK> Tron: no. without some authentication you won't get that information 20:22:44 <Tron> why not? 20:22:51 <MiHaMeK> Tron: but I'm planning to create this administration command 20:24:03 <MiHaMeK> Tron: I meant 'not yet' 20:26:45 <Tron> ok 20:40:09 *** SpComb^ [i=terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 20:40:25 *** SpComb [i=terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:40:54 *** FauxFaux [n=faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:42:15 <Tron> xrandr -s 0 20:43:58 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:45:29 *** |VillageIdiot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:54:25 *** kujeger [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 20:54:59 *** kujeger_II [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:56:30 <CIA-3> tron * r4567 /branch/bridge/ (bridge_map.c bridge_map.h openttd.c tunnelbridge_cmd.c): 20:56:30 <CIA-3> Calculate the bridge piece to display on the fly instead of storing it in the map 20:56:30 <CIA-3> Note: This breaks savegames saved earlier with this branch 20:56:41 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-0350.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:57:12 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:57:52 *** spoot [n=hell_no@spoot.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 20:58:40 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 21:04:51 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has joined #openttd 21:05:08 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 21:05:16 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 21:08:23 <MiHaMeK> wow, r4567 21:09:25 * valhallasw pokes MiHaMeK 21:10:19 <valhallasw> I suppose there is no real need for another dutch translator? :p 21:10:27 <[Shaman]> oh, note 21:10:38 <[Shaman]> when making a 'big' screenshot in a 2048x2048 21:10:38 * valhallasw slaps [Shaman] 21:10:42 <[Shaman]> it can be considdered a BAD thing :P 21:10:45 <valhallasw> yes. 21:10:49 <valhallasw> 100MB jpegs etc 21:10:55 <[Shaman]> 218mb png and counting 21:10:58 <CIA-3> belugas * r4568 /trunk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): CodeChange : Bring definitions and uses of DrawTypesStructures toguether. 21:11:15 <Tron> [Shaman]: kill the Process 21:11:29 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:11:35 <[Shaman]> Tron: That bad? :P 21:11:44 <Belugas_Gone> Good night 21:11:50 <[Shaman]> nn 21:13:09 <MiHaMeK> valhallasw: there are already 3 of them, so currently not needed any more dutch 21:13:13 <valhallasw> k 21:13:42 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:14:33 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:17:08 <XeryusTC> <[Shaman]> when making a 'big' screenshot in a 2048x2048 <-> <[Shaman]> 218mb png and counting <- you *shouldn't* use png for such high res images 21:17:34 <Zahl> use bmp instead :) 21:17:41 <XeryusTC> omfg 8)7 21:17:48 <Zahl> heh 21:19:12 <[Shaman]> XeryusTC: no shit :P 21:19:18 * Qball made a huge screenshot once... realy realy big.. 21:19:20 <CIA-3> tron * r4569 /branch/bridge/ (29 files in 4 dirs): Sync with trunk up to r4568 21:19:22 <[Shaman]> I pressed the wrong button.. wanted small screenshot :P 21:19:22 <Qball> killed many windows pc. 21:19:35 <XeryusTC> [Shaman]: press ctrl+s then 21:20:03 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has joined #openttd 21:20:09 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:20:11 <[Shaman]> ever tried that in the dark? :P 21:20:17 <XeryusTC> yes 21:20:19 <[Shaman]> you might just end up pressing ctrl-g.. like me :P 21:20:23 <XeryusTC> i succeed most of the times :P 21:20:33 <XeryusTC> i know my keyboard :) 21:20:43 <Zahl> i hope you didnt kill the process so you can tell us the final filesize :P 21:20:47 <[Shaman]> i don't.. i'm used to my keyboard glowing n shit, but coudln't be arsed to turn the lighting on :P 21:20:56 <XeryusTC> it seems that photoshop doesn't like a 10k*10k image in its web saver :s 21:20:57 <[Shaman]> Zahl: 700m+ when i killed it 21:21:09 <Zahl> nice 21:21:15 <XeryusTC> lol 21:21:26 <XeryusTC> windows is swapping really bad :) 21:21:59 <XeryusTC> yay, my swap file is too small :'D 21:22:27 <peter1138> Tron: damn you, i just finished compiling the last revision ;( 21:22:47 <peter1138> hmm 21:22:54 <peter1138> should we, uh, limit the giant screenshot? 21:22:54 <RichK67> i have a single photo that is a 440Mb psd :) 21:23:01 <peter1138> it's not really useful... 21:23:43 <XeryusTC> RichK67: psd doesn't count, that format is huge 21:23:44 <RichK67> giant screenshot was good for 256x256... even my graphics optimised PC (2Gb RAM) cannot handle the giant 21:24:04 <RichK67> on anything larger 21:24:20 <[Shaman]> [peter1138]: it's not really useful... << "block" it when the game is bigger than 512x512 size 21:24:29 <XeryusTC> maybe it should make seperate files of 256x256 tiles 21:24:39 <stillunknown> should (experimental) branch specific bug reports go onto flyspray? 21:24:52 <peter1138> stillunknown: yes 21:25:00 <peter1138> although 21:25:03 <Zahl> would be cool if you could mark two points on the map and the giant screenshot will show whats in the rect between them 21:25:04 <peter1138> i shall add it as a version 21:25:11 <XeryusTC> peter1138: how is the newstations progress going? 21:25:44 <MeusH> Zahl: IIRC Luca has made a patch like that 21:25:57 <MeusH> lucaspiller on the forum 21:26:38 <Zahl> oh great, i love requesting stuff that someone already made :) 21:27:19 <Zahl> you dont have to wait until you can use it ;) 21:27:29 <MeusH> you can request, however, doing _something_ with that patch 21:27:39 <MeusH> it sits somewhere in the dust 21:27:48 * peter1138 adds yapf and bridge versions to flyspray 21:28:09 <peter1138> hmm, and 32bpp 21:28:36 <peter1138> stillunknown: better? 21:29:44 *** You're now known as SpComb 21:29:48 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newstations! 21:31:40 <peter1138> hmm, must fix terraforming under bridges 21:34:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 21:34:24 <orudge> \o/ 21:34:49 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/terra.png o_O 21:35:11 <XeryusTC> peter1138: lol 21:36:02 *** kujeger [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:36:04 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Additional text! woo! 21:36:28 *** FauxFaux [n=faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:36:32 *** kujeger [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 21:36:39 <Born_Acorn> orudge! operator! 21:36:56 <orudge> :p 21:37:31 * peter1138 mutters at stamp duty 21:37:44 <peter1138> 1% ! 21:37:46 <ln-> http://aia.yi.org/fun/linus-speedo-mach.jpg 21:37:47 <peter1138> robbery i tell you 21:38:05 <RichK67> hi orudge... any chance of you updating the music patch to current nightly... if you do, i will add it to MiniIN and give it the audience it deserves :) 21:38:44 <Born_Acorn> This is orudge! orudge never does work. 21:38:56 <orudge> Probably not anytime soon due to severe busyness ("business" seems grammatically correct but wrong) and lots of uni and other work 21:38:59 * orudge does work, Born_Acorn 21:39:09 <Born_Acorn> He had his basement filled with immigrant kids working on that patch for 2 years! 21:39:34 <Born_Acorn> No you don't work. I broke you. 21:39:39 <orudge> Oh. 21:39:41 <orudge> That'd be it. 21:39:42 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: draw 21:40:02 <Born_Acorn> bang 21:40:05 <peter1138> damn 21:40:06 <peter1138> not again 21:40:06 <Born_Acorn> I win again. 21:40:26 <peter1138> no, i do 21:40:32 <peter1138> because i have newstations 21:40:38 <orudge> newindustries! 21:40:38 <orudge> :p 21:41:05 <Born_Acorn> Not released you don't, so the Government wins 21:41:11 <RichK67> newindustries would be cool - need/want any help? 21:42:07 <Born_Acorn> All the industries are coded in grf format, we just need OTTD to load em! 21:42:37 <Born_Acorn> Like ECS and Michael Blunck's industries, my own, the Czech ones. 21:42:51 <RichK67> nah - need to expand/correct cargo scheme for full any-industry-any-climate (what i would want to create) 21:48:15 <peter1138> belugas is working on newhouses/industries 21:48:20 *** DaleStan__ [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has joined #openttd 21:48:22 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 21:49:00 <Born_Acorn> newindustries is a newgrf feature like. 21:49:47 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-0350.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 21:49:59 <RichK67> i know, why limit yourself to newgrf limits... newgrf industries could be a subset of what OTTD is capable of 21:51:14 <MeusH> peter1138 new*! 21:51:29 <MeusH> you're the cool developer who makes all new* things :D 21:51:49 * MeusH looks at RichK67 21:51:50 <peter1138> i'm the developer who goes to bed 21:51:53 <MeusH> besides newairports 21:51:55 <RichK67> lol 21:51:58 <MeusH> then have a good sleep 21:52:08 <MeusH> so you can work harder tommorow >:] 21:52:15 <RichK67> cya peter 21:52:17 <MeusH> nevermind, that was a bad joke 21:52:18 <MeusH> cya 21:52:22 <XeryusTC> gn peter1138 21:52:54 * MeusH goes sleep too 21:53:00 <MeusH> but I'll play UT first 21:53:03 <MeusH> cya 21:53:05 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 22:00:15 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-176-145.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 22:06:35 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bed 22:06:38 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:06:48 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-199-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! 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It feels sane. Who did that? 23:01:16 *** Hinrik [i=hinrik@ns.hax.is] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:01:21 <RichK67> Thief^ 23:02:59 * Vornicus runs make release. 23:03:33 <Vornicus> RichK67: I have created a release of mini_IN 4562. 23:03:39 <Vornicus> for OS X. 23:04:10 <Vornicus> What would you like me to do with it? 23:04:32 <Vornicus> (it doesn't have triple binaries or any of that fancy stuff though) 23:04:53 <RichK67> cool - email it to me : richk@businessimaging.co.uk and i will add it to the original post 23:05:04 <RichK67> zip it first!! :) 23:05:27 <Vornicus> ...zipping does not reduce the size. 23:05:29 *** Hinrik [i=hinrik@ns.hax.is] has joined #openttd 23:05:30 <Vornicus> It's 1.8MB 23:05:46 <Vornicus> (make release builds a DMG, which is a compressed disk image) 23:06:02 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80857.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 23:06:11 <RichK67> ok - it does sometimes for me - ah ok... macs are a different world to me 23:06:21 <RichK67> email away :) 23:06:30 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8D6533.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 23:08:20 <Vornicus> Sent. Mail is from vorn@nightstar.net 23:16:15 <RichK67> ah - here it comes 23:16:43 *** gass [n=any@81.84.150.30] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:17:09 <RichK67> will there be a problem uploading a mac .dmg from a windows box?? does it change endians?? 23:19:51 *** taeli [i=taeli@host-84-9-208-147.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 23:20:16 <Brianetta> in 23:20:18 <Brianetta> hmm 23:21:07 <Brianetta> mini_in = Mini Integrated Nightly Isn't Nightly 23:21:32 <RichK67> it is on my home PC :) 23:21:39 <Brianetta> (: 23:21:44 <RichK67> currently 4568 23:24:08 <RichK67> it doesnt work to be auto-nightlied, as there are almost guaranteed conflicts every day... most are a doddle to resolve, but still need that human touch 23:25:01 <RichK67> vornicus: ive added the dmg in a .zip - can you check it downloads, opens, and works 23:28:32 <glx> RichK67: I think there's no need to put dmg in zip 23:28:51 <RichK67> forums wont accept .dmg as an upload type 23:52:35 <RichK67> gn 23:52:38 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit []