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00:10:17 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 00:19:19 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@66-146-188-50.skyriver.net] has joined #openttd 00:19:44 <PandaMojo> Happy Cinco de Mayo everyone 01:05:14 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:05:25 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 01:06:07 *** Zothar_ [n=chatzill@adsl-69-155-218-8.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 01:30:40 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 01:34:01 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-231-10.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 01:35:06 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:38:21 *** Cipri [n=cipri@a47034.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [] 01:49:03 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917224.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:51:22 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917224.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 01:55:56 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@88.240.23.30] has joined #openttd 01:59:22 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@66-146-188-50.skyriver.net] has quit [] 02:28:56 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:33:38 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 02:35:24 *** ernie_hh [n=Kai_Step@c159207.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:35:55 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37B1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:42:08 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B84D85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:59:03 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 03:05:58 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 03:09:50 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:23:15 *** Vornicus [n=vorn@64-252-103-227.adsl.snet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:23:27 *** Vornicus [n=vorn@64-252-103-227.adsl.snet.net] has joined #openttd 03:41:39 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:42:08 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:40:10 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@88.240.23.30] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:00:42 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.107.161.10] has joined #openttd 06:12:01 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:19:01 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.107.161.10] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:24:43 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.19.254] has joined #openttd 06:28:17 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ns7.png <-- irregular stations \o/ 06:29:34 <guru3> whoa what is that looks cool 06:34:22 <Tobin> peter1138: Nifty! 06:34:38 <Tobin> How many more KB of diff is there to go? ;-) 06:38:55 <Tobin> Heh, current trunk with newstationsgui17.diff doesn't quite work. 06:39:33 <peter1138> yeah, cos 40, 41, 46, 47 & 49 are missing 06:39:36 <peter1138> that is what i'm working on now 06:40:09 <Tobin> Fair enough. 06:40:18 <Tobin> Still looks very sexy though. 06:40:48 <peter1138> \o/ 06:40:57 <peter1138> well, the code i've just written implements 40 & 41 06:41:51 <Tobin> Hooray for 40 and 41! 06:41:56 <Tobin> ... 06:42:02 <Tobin> What do they do? 06:42:29 <peter1138> they make the dynamic station layouts work 06:42:47 <Tobin> The automatic placement stuff? 06:44:19 <Tobin> What was the grf with the industrial stations in it? 06:44:27 <peter1138> jcindstaw 06:47:35 <MiHaMiX> morning 06:48:40 <Tobin> peter1138: Part of the USset? 06:48:50 <peter1138> yeah 06:51:43 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 06:54:27 <Tobin> Drag and drop isn't ready yet, right? 06:54:58 <peter1138> it's all hinging on the 40/41 code 06:56:26 <peter1138> hmm 06:56:35 <peter1138> should i support joining waypoints together, graphically? 06:56:43 <peter1138> (still separate routing-wise) 06:58:07 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 06:58:07 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: yes 06:58:12 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: definitely! 07:02:58 <peter1138> ok 07:03:14 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.107.161.10] has joined #openttd 07:10:51 <peter1138> k, that works too 07:14:30 <MiHaMiX> cool :) 07:17:35 *** ernie_hh [n=Kai_Step@c191169.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 07:26:06 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:28:55 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946985.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:29:40 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 07:31:56 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:32:26 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:35:15 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 07:35:39 <MeusH> hey 07:36:20 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 07:37:27 <peter1138> look meush, http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ns7.png 07:37:28 <peter1138> :D 07:38:57 <MeusH> wee woow! 07:39:02 <MeusH> non uniform :) 07:39:07 <MeusH> great work peter138 07:39:10 <MeusH> 1138* 07:41:25 <MeusH> can you build newstation with working both northbound and eastbound tracks, or the train passes through the one track orientation? 07:43:50 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has joined #openttd 07:45:53 <peter1138> huh? 07:48:14 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:49:43 <MeusH> do trains distinguish / and \ tracks on newstations? 07:49:59 <MeusH> or they just go through everything 07:50:16 <MeusH> until they meet non-station tile without track (read: grass) 07:53:11 <peter1138> ... 07:53:28 <peter1138> station direction hasn't been removed 07:53:45 <MeusH> good :) 07:56:53 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 07:57:28 <Hendikins> Anyone up for a game? 08:01:55 <ernie_hh> is there any chance that a bug will be patched which occurs after the official end of the game? (perhaps if you join a multiplayer game in 2090) 08:02:25 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:06:57 <peter1138> not if it's not reported 08:07:20 <MeusH> cya 08:07:28 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 08:07:49 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:14:00 <Darkvater> KUDr: ah, k?öszönöm :) 08:14:00 <ernie_hh> peter: so there is a chance (no promise :) ) 08:14:14 <KUDr> Darkvater: whwre? 08:14:19 <KUDr> where? 08:15:51 <XeryusTC> good morning everyone 08:16:08 <Darkvater> KUDr: about gn 08:16:38 <Darkvater> nvm, 10 hour lag ;p 08:17:18 <KUDr> Darkvater: uff, i thought i forgot some crazy characters in source 08:17:26 <Darkvater> hehe 08:17:38 <KUDr> Darkvater: it was hungarian 08:18:14 <KUDr> your name sounds hungarian, so you should understand 08:18:16 <Darkvater> I know 08:18:26 <Darkvater> I am Hungarian 08:18:31 <KUDr> really? 08:18:48 <KUDr> why somewhere in west eu? 08:19:10 <Darkvater> deep-space vortex 08:19:26 <KUDr> ok, it happens sometimes 08:19:27 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:19:37 <Darkvater> No, my father found a job in Holland some 15 years ago and we kinda stuck here 08:19:55 <KUDr> good 08:20:16 <KUDr> do you visit hu sometimes? 08:20:47 <Darkvater> yeah, we go every summer usually 08:21:11 <peter1138> Darkvater: ns7.png :D 08:21:19 <KUDr> so you can stop in Brno in summer (barbeque, beer...) 08:21:21 * Darkvater checks 08:21:30 <Darkvater> Brno? 08:21:38 <KUDr> yes 08:21:45 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 08:21:46 * Darkvater starts drolling uncontrollably 08:21:49 <Darkvater> shit 08:21:51 <Darkvater> drooling 08:21:58 <KUDr> i150 km from Wien 08:22:11 <Darkvater> KUDr: ah, north-east? 08:22:29 <KUDr> or north 08:22:40 <KUDr> between 08:22:42 <KUDr> yes 08:22:54 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=439505#439505 < lol 08:23:10 <Darkvater> when is this festival exactly? 08:23:18 <Darkvater> peter1138: the drooling was about your pic :) 08:23:29 <KUDr> heh. When you will want 08:23:42 <KUDr> we will celebrate you at home 08:23:45 <Darkvater> hehe 08:24:20 <Darkvater> I was thinking you had some kind of an Oktoberfest or something there, not a whole holiday in my honour ^^ 08:24:33 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181109109.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:24:37 <KUDr> heh 08:24:51 <KUDr> can come and will be festival 08:25:38 <Darkvater> *D 08:26:17 <Darkvater> bah I will be inactive *again* most of the day, just drop in occasionally 08:27:58 <Darkvater> hope you guys have a great _day_ today will drop by from time to time 08:28:16 *** nooga [n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl] has joined #openttd 08:32:53 <ernie_hh> which is the official end year? 08:33:10 <ernie_hh> ah, 2090 08:33:18 <MeusH[away]> you get scored at 2050 08:33:59 <nooga> unless you've cheated ;] 08:34:28 <ernie_hh> if you start a game after 2090 you cant see the finances from last year 08:35:58 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 08:36:18 <peter1138> that's because last year is 2090 08:36:22 <ernie_hh> http://ernie.no-ip.info/dies-und-das/openttd_bug.png 08:36:26 <MeusH[away]> yeah, finaces are screwed up in 2090 and next year, also 2090, and every next year, which is also 2090 08:36:38 <ernie_hh> peter: but it works if the company is founded before 2090 08:36:48 <ernie_hh> right side: company founded before 2090 08:37:00 <ernie_hh> left side: company founded "after" 2090 08:43:54 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.107.161.10] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:44:10 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has joined #openttd 08:47:18 <nooga> i've just built RoRo on straight, 2 way, main line 08:47:24 <nooga> looks neat 08:48:12 <nooga> combination of cloverleaf with 2-way RoRo 08:52:32 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 08:55:16 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:02:04 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-180-173.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 09:09:49 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@CPE-60-225-54-52.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:10:23 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:10:28 *** Hendy is now known as Hendikins 09:14:38 *** jnmbk_ [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has joined #openttd 09:14:38 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:14:56 *** jnmbk_ is now known as jnmbk 09:17:13 *** nooga [n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:27:01 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-180-173.vodafone-net.de] has quit ["muss wech"] 09:31:11 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4747 /trunk/newgrf_station.c: - Newstations: implement support for variables 40, 41, 46, 47 and 49. 09:32:31 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 09:32:51 <Fujitsu> :O 09:32:58 <Fujitsu> So it should almost work properly? 09:36:13 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D9BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:36:48 <peter1138> no 09:36:50 <peter1138> not yet 09:36:54 <MeusH[away]> cya 09:36:56 *** MeusH[away] [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 09:40:13 <Fujitsu> What's left, then? 09:40:15 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4748 /trunk/rail_cmd.c: - Newstations: use custom sprite layout callback for waypoints as well as stations. Supports merging of adjacent waypoints if the GRF supports it (newstatsw.grf) 09:40:21 <Fujitsu> Mmm... 09:40:28 <Fujitsu> Waypoints... I like the idea. 09:40:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B76312.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:40:52 <peter1138> hmm 09:40:56 <peter1138> i should've clarified :/ 09:41:01 <peter1138> it only merges the graphics, not the waypoints 09:43:40 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4749 /trunk/newgrf_station.c: - Newstations: add snowline support to variable 42. 09:52:29 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:53:08 *** |Jeroen| [n=users@dD57729CC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:00:28 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B74036.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:01:34 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["kthxbye"] 10:07:09 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:14:50 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit ["/quit"] 10:23:37 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176099157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:45 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 10:25:44 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:26:02 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-198-77.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:26:04 <Sacro> morning all 10:26:54 <ThePizzaKing> morning Sacro 10:27:28 <Hendikins> Can I convince anyone here to have a game? :P 10:27:51 <Sacro> ThePizzaKing: how are you, long time no see 10:27:51 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:27:58 <Sacro> Hendikins: version, newgrfs? 10:28:12 <Hendikins> latest nightly, no 10:28:20 <ThePizzaKing> yeah, I'm fine, how about yourself? 10:28:35 <Hendikins> Unless you can think of any must-have newgrfs? 10:28:47 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:29:04 <Sacro> Hendikins: i tend to play nightly with ukrs 10:29:35 <Hendikins> linkage? 10:29:42 <Sacro> www.ppcis.org/nightly 10:30:18 * Hendikins rearranges his desk a bit so he can see all 3 TFTs 10:30:29 <Sacro> 3 :| 10:30:33 <Hendikins> Anyone ever played ottd with a trackpad? 10:30:38 <Sacro> yeah i have 10:30:46 <Hendikins> Must be fun 10:31:03 <Hendikins> r4742 will do for this game 10:31:11 * Hendikins waits for dedicated server to compile 10:31:19 <Fujitsu> It's not very good... I carry a mouse with me when I plan to play 10:31:59 <Hendikins> Sacro: http://www.hendikins.id.au/photos/misc/dscf0587.jpg 10:32:00 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:32:31 <Sacro> Hendikins: wish i could afford some new stuff 10:33:58 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:35:31 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has joined #openttd 10:36:51 <Hendikins> 192.168.0.1 was really not built to compile :P 10:39:01 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:39:15 <Sacro> lol 10:41:26 <Hendikins> Up and at it. wolfox.ath.cx 10:41:59 <Hendikins> Sacro: ^^^ 10:44:28 <Sacro> meh? any newgrfs needed? 10:45:11 <Hendikins> The ones you suggested 10:46:22 * Hendikins tweaks config 10:46:26 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:47:19 <Hendikins> I've got a nice setup here. Laptop monitors the server, web browsing on the 17" TFT and ottd on the 19" TFT 10:47:43 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 10:49:33 <Sacro> damn you, ive been downgraded to a 15" crt :( 10:49:48 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:50:10 <Hendikins> You poor thing 10:50:18 * Hendikins hasn't used a CRT that small since 1999 10:50:32 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 10:50:45 <Hendikins> and we gave away 4 17" CRTs in the last couple of months (yes, gave away) 10:51:23 <Sacro> send one my way 10:51:55 <Hendikins> I'm out of them, and you're not in Sydney 10:51:59 <Hendikins> game's up, btw 10:52:29 <Sacro> yeah, i need a password :) 10:52:37 <Hendikins> ?!! 10:52:42 <Sacro> Sydneys a bit far to get to via bus 10:52:44 <Hendikins> That's not in the config file anywhere 10:53:04 <Sacro> hmm, thats a bug report, though i cant reproduce it 10:53:23 <Sacro> ahh, you dont get ukrs on tropical :) 10:53:42 <Hendikins> Ah 10:53:53 <Hendikins> Ah well, no newgrfs it is then 10:54:01 * Hendikins enjoys tropical the most 10:54:03 <Sacro> could go for tropicalset or something 10:54:14 <Prof_Frink> or usset 10:54:20 <Hendikins> Lets just plain go :) 10:54:29 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: thats what i meant i think 10:54:38 <Sacro> Hendikins: the game is paused 10:54:45 <Hendikins> Ready? 10:54:50 <Hendikins> No other takers? 10:54:53 * Hendikins looks at Prof_Frink 10:55:11 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: joooooooooooin us 10:55:21 <Hendikins> You know you want to 10:56:19 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:56:24 <Hendikins> Sacro: lets just start :P 10:57:51 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:59:44 <Hendikins> ? 10:59:53 <Sacro> sorry 11:00:10 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 11:00:11 <Sacro> need to fix this network 11:01:08 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 11:01:12 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:15 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:16:14 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 11:16:18 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:22:56 *** Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:23:17 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:01 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:30:01 *** Pulec [n=Pulcoj@AYR-TRNOV.core.ttnet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:30:36 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:34:12 *** Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 11:41:01 *** johnny83 [n=chatzill@P0848.p.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 11:50:51 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-178-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:55:56 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 12:21:02 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 12:25:36 *** Zr40_ [i=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:26:51 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:27:59 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["kthxbye"] 12:35:14 *** Zr40__ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:39:05 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 12:39:58 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:43:33 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:49:33 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@176.82.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 12:49:41 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-235-126.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 12:50:53 *** Zr40_ [i=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:53:50 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-198-77.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 12:56:06 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:57:05 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-245-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:00:37 <Hendikins> Sacro: wolfox.ath.cx :P 13:01:29 <Sacro> Hendikins: yeah i know :) 13:01:38 <Sacro> just watching the forumula 1 13:05:50 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 13:11:28 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 13:11:29 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-197-224.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 13:27:08 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has joined #openttd 13:30:26 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 13:30:50 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 13:40:21 *** nooga [n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl] has joined #openttd 13:40:27 <nooga> mh 13:40:29 * nooga sad 13:41:25 * nooga have just compiled OTTD under SuSe 10 with whole that nvidia driver crap, on good machine and so on... and... 13:41:34 *** ShadowJK [n=jk@208.53.150.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:42:01 <nooga> it jumps when i scroll the map with mouse!! 13:43:27 <nooga> is it normal under linux? :| 13:48:25 <nooga> well 13:48:42 *** ShadowJK [n=jk@208.53.150.226] has joined #openttd 13:50:36 *** johnny83 [n=chatzill@P0848.p.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:55:48 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:56:07 <Prof_Frink> It ain't perfectly smooth here (ubuntu dapper) but I wouldn't describe it as 'jumpy' 13:56:41 <nooga> under windows everything is okay 13:56:49 <nooga> on the same machine 13:57:47 <Qball> no problems here 13:57:50 <Qball> under dapper 13:58:18 <Sacro> yeah ive noticed it jerkier under Arch Linux, than under XP 14:00:32 <izhirahider> nooga: Do you run any other SDL games? 14:01:24 *** [1]Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-245-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:01:24 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-245-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:01:30 *** [1]Sacro is now known as Sacro 14:01:32 <Sacro> hmm 14:03:23 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F713.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:50 <Qball> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24966 14:06:52 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 14:09:56 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 14:15:12 *** Torrasque_ [n=jerome@176.82.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 14:15:27 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 14:21:36 <Sacro> NFSW: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24967 14:21:44 <Sacro> s/NFSW/NSFW 14:23:05 * Sacro waits for a dev to delete the post...none around 14:23:12 <Mukke> eh... talk about off topic? :) 14:23:41 <Sacro> yeah, needs to be moved to the General Forum 14:24:27 *** nooga [n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:24:33 <Qball> even then, it's off-topic 14:25:07 <Sacro> true 14:27:08 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:27:09 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:27:12 *** vdepizzol [n=chatzill@200.242.12.134] has joined #openttd 14:27:25 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 14:27:32 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:27:40 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 14:27:49 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:29:49 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:32:31 <CIA-3> tron * r4750 /trunk/train_cmd.c: -Fix: Trains could enter certain sloped rail tiles under bridges with incompatible rail type 14:38:49 <vdepizzol> I cant' download openttd without the original version of transport tycoon? 14:40:09 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-30.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 14:42:18 <Sacro> vdepizzol: you can download it, but you cant play it 14:43:25 <vdepizzol> Sacro: ohyehh... why openttd needs transport tycoon to works? 14:44:02 <Prof_Frink> vdepizzol: graphics 14:44:06 <Sacro> vdepizzol: it hasnt got its own seperate graphics and sounds 14:45:26 <vdepizzol> thanks 14:49:49 *** vdepizzol_ [n=chatzill@200.242.12.134] has joined #openttd 14:57:42 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #Openttd 14:59:52 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:03:12 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 15:03:52 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:10:29 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 15:11:13 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:13:45 *** znikoz2 [i=1@ant-171.ag1.dp.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:21 *** vdepizzol [n=chatzill@200.242.12.134] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:16:49 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-245-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"] 15:18:12 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:31:25 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:33:39 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has joined #openttd 15:36:24 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:41:49 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:41:59 *** jnmbk_ [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has joined #openttd 15:42:04 *** znikoz2 [i=1@ant-171.ag1.dp.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:42:09 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:42:41 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:45 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:43:38 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has left #openttd [] 15:53:08 *** xahodo [n=xander@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:57 <ernie_hh> is there a help for the "transfer"-function? 15:57:00 <ernie_hh> ah... wiki helps *g* 15:57:09 <LIIT> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Transfer_order%2C_setting_up_feeder_systems 15:57:14 <LIIT> gah, I'm too slow :-) 15:57:28 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46ae0.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:57:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:01:11 <ernie_hh> hmmm, so transfer is a one-way-solution... okay 16:02:26 <LIIT> Personally I hardly ever use transfer, but it has it's advantages 16:03:55 <ernie_hh> i don't doubt that :) 16:04:40 <ernie_hh> i searched for a solution to bring valuables from a bank inside a city to the station at the town border and bag 16:04:45 <ernie_hh> and back ... 16:06:42 <LIIT> that shouldn't make any money 16:06:57 <LIIT> you can't (as far I my tests have shown) transport it back to the same place 16:07:18 <ernie_hh> i dont want to transport it back 16:07:30 <LIIT> Ahh, now I get it 16:08:00 <ernie_hh> i want to transport valuables from bank1 with an lorrie to the station, with a train to bank2. and other valuables the other way round form bank2 to bank1 16:08:13 <LIIT> what you can do here, is have 2 stations outside the city, and use on for cargo going from a->b, and 1 for b->a 16:09:00 <ernie_hh> yes, i thought about that. but i think the money is not worth it *g* 16:09:10 <LIIT> hehe, it might be :-) 16:09:21 <LIIT> you don't have to add any trains/trucks 16:09:53 <ernie_hh> oh, the train is already running between bank1 and bank2. i just thought about adding bank3 to the trunaround ;) 16:10:12 <LIIT> ahhh, k 16:12:36 <Ihmemies> btw what's all the talk about cpu usage in the forums? 16:12:46 <Ihmemies> with terms like npf and yapf.. cpu... usage? :oo 16:13:11 <Ihmemies> at least when I play ttd the client's cpu usage is so low it doesn't even register on task manager 16:13:26 *** jnmbk_ is now known as jnmbk 16:13:35 <KUDr> Ihmemies: where on the forum? 16:13:55 <peter1138> Ihmemies: when you have 500+ vehicles... 16:13:57 <LIIT> When I run server+client in windows with 8 players and npf - I can feel the cpu being used 16:14:05 <Ihmemies> peter1138, give me an example save then 16:14:17 <Ihmemies> I tried to get some from openttdcoop's page, but 404 16:15:16 <Ihmemies> with my software resampler running my cpu usage is around 15%.. so ... if ttd uses 5% with 500 vechiles, I couldn't care less :P 16:15:31 <Ihmemies> i'd be interested to see a savegame where cpu usage is really an issue 16:15:58 <Prof_Frink> just wait till RobC starts playing openTTD 16:16:09 <Prof_Frink> then you'll find CPU usage an issue. 16:16:24 <Ihmemies> I don't know about random guys and stuff, I just want to see some proof :P 16:16:29 <Ihmemies> until that, it's all lies! 16:18:03 <peter1138> try http://195.112.37.102/ottd/d.sav 16:19:33 <Ihmemies> horrible jams 16:19:47 <Ihmemies> what are the trains waiting for there? 16:20:58 <Ihmemies> can't you just use less trains and scrap the waypoints if that's an issue.. or ? :( 16:21:15 <Ihmemies> that = not enough room for every train in the depot.. sigh 16:21:26 <peter1138> no idea 16:21:29 <peter1138> it's not my game 16:22:07 <Ihmemies> ok. 16:23:08 <Ihmemies> anyways, openttd's cpu usage is nothing when compared to even simpliest 3d games like quake :P 16:23:40 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 16:23:43 <Ihmemies> and I still don't see why it is an issue even with all the nice pathfinding enabled? cpu power is meant to be used, not wasted 16:24:05 <MeusH> hi 16:24:24 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2592.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 16:24:24 <Prof_Frink> Ihmemies: Not true 16:24:25 <LIIT> it should still be minimized, so you can do other stuff (lots and lots of other stuff) at the same time 16:24:29 <LIIT> hi MeusH 16:24:35 <Prof_Frink> quake2 outperforms openTTD on my Libretto 16:26:16 <Ihmemies> other stuff, like running seti@home? ;) 16:28:54 <Sionide> Ihmemies, cpu power should be used, yes, efficiently 16:29:51 <Ihmemies> i'm not an asm programmer so I don't really care 16:30:09 <Ihmemies> it's better to use it inefficiently than not to use at all 16:30:14 <Sionide> you are wasting power, if you're not using it efficiently 16:30:36 <Prof_Frink> Ihmemies: What if you don't have the power to waste? 16:30:49 <Ihmemies> I can't imagine that kind of situation 16:30:54 <Prof_Frink> I can. 16:30:58 <Ihmemies> like? 16:31:00 <Prof_Frink> I *have* that situation. 16:31:13 <Sionide> a comp with not so many gigahertz :p 16:31:20 <Prof_Frink> Like a P166 with 32mb of RAM 16:31:35 <Ihmemies> like who uses that kind of pos when you can get 10x faster with 0 16:31:41 <Ihmemies> or less 16:32:04 <Prof_Frink> Ihmemies: But can you get *smaller*? 16:32:04 <SimonRC> Prof_Frink: thats even more retro that my pentium 2 16:32:08 <SimonRC> *taht's 16:32:11 <SimonRC> *that's 16:32:39 <Ihmemies> I have a 80386 pc somewhere around with floppy disk drive etc 16:33:04 <Ihmemies> but I don't see any reason why I would want to use that :P dosbox does it all, but faster 16:33:12 <SimonRC> the motherboard can hold 2G of ram (amazing for 1998), but the L2 cache can't cache data from above 512M 16:33:49 <Prof_Frink> Ihmemies: Buy me a U100 and I'll stop complaining ;) 16:34:24 <Ihmemies> i'd rather buy you amd x2 3800+ and overclock it 16:34:28 <Ihmemies> solves your speed problems :P 16:35:37 <Tron> incorrect, faster hardware can only compensate constant factors, not algorithmic complexity 16:35:54 <Prof_Frink> Ihmemies: Will that fit in my pocket? 16:36:24 <Ihmemies> why would you want to have an openttd server running in your pocket? 16:36:34 <Prof_Frink> I'm not talking about a server 16:36:55 <Tron> you know that all clients and the server have to do exactly all the same calculations? 16:37:13 <Ihmemies> you can't be so nolife that you need to play ottd _everywhere_ 16:37:34 <Ihmemies> of course i have minesweeper on my pocket calc, but it's a different matter :P 16:37:35 <Prof_Frink> No, but I like to be able to play it *anywhere*, say on a train 16:37:46 <Ihmemies> do something else, like read books 16:38:19 <Ihmemies> and i don't still understand why ottd should be designed around some 0,0000001% minority's issues 16:38:25 <Prof_Frink> Nah, I'll play Quake2, thanks 16:45:07 <Sionide> http://www.coffeebrain.com/comic/images/pages/page0045.gif 16:45:09 <Sionide> heheh 16:45:11 <Sionide> <3coffee 16:49:16 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 16:50:56 <C-Otto> ottd runs fine on my opteron 16:50:59 <C-Otto> who is complaining? 16:54:28 <KUDr> :) 16:57:13 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 17:10:47 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 17:12:14 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 17:17:00 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.252.165] has joined #openttd 17:25:55 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 17:28:17 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Newstations! 17:30:01 <Sacro> evening all 17:35:09 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! WhatBorn_AncornSaid! 17:35:55 <Sacro> peter1138: i_agree_with("Prof_Frink"); 17:36:53 <MeusH> me_too(); 17:37:52 <ln-> i haven't read any of the discussion, so i object. 17:38:35 <Prof_Frink> MeusH: no, that's aol(); 17:40:39 <peter1138> what? 17:40:53 *** xahodo [n=xander@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [] 17:41:46 * peter1138 goes back to his ukrs + as many newstations he can get his hands on game 17:42:05 <Brianetta> peter1138: Commit the sod already 17:42:50 <Born_Acorn> Lets start a pressure group! We can be "Mothers against not having newstations committed" 17:43:14 *** DJMirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:45:19 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:46:59 <peter1138> Brianetta: fwiw, it has only today been in a state suitable for committage 17:46:59 <peter1138> i.e. 17:47:01 <peter1138> i will 17:50:30 <MeusH> aol? 17:50:43 <MeusH> define("aol()") 17:51:33 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:52:25 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 17:52:29 <Born_Acorn> An Obsolete Ladel 17:53:17 <Prof_Frink> MeusH: <aol>Me Too!</aol> 17:55:30 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-213-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:35 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 17:58:00 <MeusH> hmm 17:58:39 <MeusH> Army Of Lamers 17:59:07 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8335C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:00:51 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: ladle :) 18:03:42 <hylje> MeusH: indeed 18:04:09 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-178-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:04:13 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B8335C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:05:28 <Sacro> peter1138: Newstations! 18:12:02 *** GW[school] [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:16:17 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:16:31 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B802DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:18:15 *** DJMirage is now known as DJ_Mirage 18:20:25 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: did you see ns7.png? 18:21:19 <MeusH> peter1138 is on his coding rampage 18:21:21 <MeusH> \o/ 18:29:57 <peter1138> lies 18:30:10 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:32:28 <peter1138> seen the in-progress ukrs revamp? 18:36:08 <hylje> no 18:38:03 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 18:40:50 <Sacro> no 18:40:53 *** GW[school] is now known as GoneWacko 18:41:07 <GoneWacko> silly laptop mIRC 18:41:23 <peter1138> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=439647#439647 18:41:42 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 18:44:11 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, no i didn't 18:45:29 <MeusH> hey GoneWacko 18:45:30 <Sacro> peter1138: looking nice 18:48:08 * peter1138 considers disabling LA check when overbuilding station tiles 18:48:30 <peter1138> (town won't let me change my existing platform configuration :( ) 18:49:01 *** DJMirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:17 <peter1138> hmm, means it needs to check each tile individually 18:52:38 <Kalpa> Beep! 18:54:31 *** DJMirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 18:56:05 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:57:55 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:58:34 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 19:00:24 <Sacro> peter1138: it shouldnt stop you adjusting existing things 19:02:05 <Born_Acorn> Well town councils control it all. 19:02:15 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 19:02:16 <Born_Acorn> You need planning permission, and they can deny it! 19:07:31 <peter1138> damn 19:07:40 <peter1138> i want to do this newairports thing now 19:07:49 <peter1138> a lot of the code is shared 19:07:59 <peter1138> so it'll make custom graphics and variations on airports easier 19:08:23 <Born_Acorn> work with Lakie! 19:08:55 <peter1138> well, dalestan's already done most of the spec, heh 19:09:39 <DaleStan> Feel free to hack it up, of course. 19:10:00 *** iridium is now known as iridium`nh 19:10:09 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176126052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:11:58 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 19:19:11 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 19:24:22 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176099157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:26:49 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:35:27 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 19:35:32 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.252.165] has quit [" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 19:37:41 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 19:37:56 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:55:40 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:04:14 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 20:09:15 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Newstations! 20:09:23 <peter1138> ya ya 20:10:01 <ln-> wtf is newstations? 20:10:08 <Born_Acorn> HERESY. 20:10:15 <Born_Acorn> burn this heretic 20:11:03 * DaleStan gets the torches. 20:11:38 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: how can one try out newstations? 20:11:55 <ln-> well i wasn't expecting a spanish inquisition! :) 20:12:29 <Born_Acorn> ln- imagine http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewStations for OTTD. 20:12:30 *** Zr40__ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:12:58 <Born_Acorn> (Ignore the bus stops bit) 20:13:10 <peter1138> or http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ns4.png for a more visual medium 20:13:33 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: xoon 20:13:33 <peter1138> er 20:13:34 <peter1138> soon 20:13:54 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: ok 20:14:05 <Born_Acorn> xoon sounds like soon 20:14:08 <peter1138> been a bit distracted today 20:14:23 <peter1138> (mostly by play^H^H^H^H^H testing it) 20:16:22 <Born_Acorn> Try committing it! That clears distraction. 20:17:00 <Bjarni> hi MiHaMiX 20:17:08 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: I sent you an Email 20:17:12 <Bjarni> about the translator 20:17:39 <peter1138> MeusH: btw, i couldn't make sense of that polish file 20:17:48 <peter1138> MeusH: seems to be mixed charsets :/ 20:20:05 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: I've already read your email, but I already decided in favour of those things you propagated 20:20:10 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4751 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: when assigning new texts, ignore the feature byte as some sets use generic feature always. Also, don't add vehicle id shifts if the vehicle id is out of range. 20:20:14 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: but still hadn't got time to explain it to you 20:20:59 <Bjarni> ok 20:21:09 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: there'll be that possibility 20:21:19 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: but hadn't got time to code. 20:21:50 <Bjarni> about the other thing, could I get my translator account transferred reopened/transfered/whatever, so I can translate again? 20:21:58 <peter1138> ok 20:21:58 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: but I'm opened toward other coders, so if you feel you've enough time tell me and I'll give you svn account to the source of WT2 20:22:00 <peter1138> long strings 20:22:07 <peter1138> currently long strings overflow in drop down lists 20:22:12 <peter1138> should we stop that? 20:22:19 <Bjarni> it's php, right? 20:22:19 <peter1138> (place a "..." at the end) 20:22:23 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: yes, but only after newstations :DD 20:22:28 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: yes, php5 20:22:34 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: well, it's in my newstations patch, so... 20:22:35 <Bjarni> I don't know php :( 20:22:40 <peter1138> i'm whittling it down 20:22:46 <peter1138> (whatever that means) 20:22:51 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: no prob, maybe I'll find someone :) 20:23:00 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 20:23:03 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: what was your language? 20:23:07 <Bjarni> Danish 20:23:14 <Bjarni> it still is ;) 20:23:39 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: :D ok, i'll transfer your account and notify you right afterward 20:23:47 <Born_Acorn> You must live in Daneland! 20:24:05 <Born_Acorn> peter1138 lives in Englishland! 20:24:06 <Bjarni> remember, you had to look up "liget" in a Danish-Hungarian dictionary 20:24:33 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: I already remember the meaning of the word 'liget' in danish language :D 20:24:34 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: and you must live in Engrishland 20:24:37 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: corpse :) 20:24:46 <Bjarni> yeah, I told you ages ago 20:25:56 <Bjarni> it sounded kind of spoocky that you were going to meet somebody (forgot his name) at the dead body..... I mean, you knew where the dead body were located... did you murder him? 20:25:58 <Bjarni> :p 20:26:33 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: I met Vaily at the liget that time (2004-05-01) 20:26:48 <Bjarni> Vaily, that was it 20:26:59 <Bjarni> damn, that is a long time ago 20:27:13 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: yes, more that 2 years now 20:27:34 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4752 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: brokenness slipped through... 20:28:06 <Bjarni> how am I going to keep up to date with all the changes that happens to the source? 20:28:18 <Bjarni> now I got 347 unread svn emails o_O 20:28:24 <peter1138> rm :) 20:28:46 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 20:29:25 <Bjarni> Darkvater told me to read all of them since I'm supposed to be up to date with what happens to the source 20:29:33 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4753 /trunk/widget.c: - Truncate text in dropdown lists to stop text overflowing. 20:29:43 <Bjarni> thanks 20:29:51 <Bjarni> you gave me the right word 20:30:13 <Bjarni> my svn log input buffer is overflown, so I lost some info and can't read all the messages 20:30:15 <Bjarni> :D 20:30:50 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: I'm always reading them, no matter how much time I have :) 20:31:51 <Bjarni> I didn't read them for a few days, and then I simply got behind and were unable to read the normal income of new mails in addition to the "queued" ones 20:32:01 <Bjarni> and now it just went really bad :/ 20:32:09 <Bjarni> now it's 349 20:33:30 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.19.254] has quit [Success] 20:33:32 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4754 /trunk/ (rail_cmd.c station.h station_cmd.c): - Newstations: expose default station display data via a function so we can use it (rarely) in other places. 20:33:37 <peter1138> 350 :) 20:35:08 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Newstations! 20:35:35 <peter1138> lies 20:37:21 <Bjarni> you know, the worst part is that I can't blame you for spamming, since it's progress in the source and I like that to happen 20:37:36 <Bjarni> so I guess it's a dilemma of some sort 20:38:24 <Bjarni> now it's 0 unread mails 20:38:27 <Bjarni> magic 20:39:39 <peter1138> :) 20:43:14 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 20:48:44 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4755 /trunk/ (newgrf_station.c newgrf_station.h waypoint.c): - Newstations: add a gui station tile drawing routine and use it in place of the existing one for waypoints. 20:49:36 <peter1138> 23 KB 20:49:42 <peter1138> (it keeps expanding ;p) 20:50:55 <LIIT> what's this newstations you are working so hard on Peter ? I'm getting a bit curious :-D 20:51:20 <peter1138> just a little project on the side 20:51:38 <DaleStan> FSVO "little" 20:51:45 <LIIT> I don't believe it's "little" :-) 20:52:29 <Prof_Frink> LIIT: Play wih TTDPatch for a clue. 20:52:31 <DaleStan> LIIT: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewStations (but ignore the bus stops bit) 20:54:15 <LIIT> New graphics for stations ? 20:54:18 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2D0E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:34 <peter1138> something like that 20:54:56 <LIIT> hmmm, now I'm going to end up checking out a CVS version to satisfy my curiousity ;-) 20:55:00 <LIIT> SVN* 20:55:05 <peter1138> wouldn't bother yet 20:55:40 <LIIT> k 20:57:47 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8335C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:03:51 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.96.161.149] has left #openttd ["Konversation terminated!"] 21:04:37 *** pixels [n=vrazix@24.128.96.101] has joined #openttd 21:09:44 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 21:10:31 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:10:48 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2FF04.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:10:48 *** dp is now known as dp-- 21:11:06 <Ihmemies> oo aa 21:11:11 <Ihmemies> i've REIGSTERRRED 21:11:15 <hylje> OMG 21:11:15 <hylje> ! 21:11:29 <pixels> :< 21:11:39 <Ihmemies> now the query should work too? :o 21:12:32 <Noldo> yes 21:13:05 <Ihmemies> most excellent 21:21:37 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181109109.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:23:48 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946985.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [""cal 9 1752""] 21:26:32 <Dred_furst> hey 21:27:27 <Dred_furst> i have a problem 21:28:02 <Dred_furst> anyone? 21:28:08 <hylje> i dont 21:28:27 <pixels> nor do i. 21:28:31 <Dred_furst> i downloaded the dbxl set off the ttdpatch website, my train is meant to go 103mph 21:28:50 <Dred_furst> The horsepower is right but the train has a max speed of 50mph 21:29:56 <peter1138> wagon speed limits? 21:30:07 <Prof_Frink> Dred_furst: what peter1138 said. 21:30:15 <Dred_furst> ok, thanks 21:30:22 <Dred_furst> Didnt know you could do that 21:30:41 <Prof_Frink> Hold on, this is window 4, not window 2 21:31:03 <C-Otto> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=53.549201,-2.260222&sspn=0.381849,0.86174&q=den+haag,+netherlands&ll=52.061647,4.376614&spn=0.012348,0.026929&t=k&om=1 21:31:06 <C-Otto> i want to build that. 21:31:10 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4756 /branch/yapf/yapf/ (13 files in 2 dirs): [YAPF] Code cleanup: YAPF class hierarchy refactored to be more flat. VC6 no longer compiles it. 21:33:55 <Maedhros> oooh, fun. testing that 'delete bridge with trucks on it' bug gives me a segfault if the bridge is over land... 21:35:59 <MeusH> <@peter1138> MeusH: seems to be mixed charsets :/ <== what charset is needed? Any specific kind of Unicode? 21:36:14 <Born_Acorn> LIIT, the new graphics won't come with it, but its the ability to display the new graphics. You get the files from websites yourself. 21:36:21 <MeusH> and what kind of problems do you experience? 21:36:23 <Born_Acorn> (with newstations) 21:36:31 <LIIT> ahhh, okis 21:39:50 <peter1138> MeusH: utf-8 21:40:22 <peter1138> (though any unicode format will do, i can convert to utf-8) 21:41:02 <Brianetta> peter1138: How close to UKRS new stations support is the nightly? 21:41:17 <peter1138> well, very far 21:41:20 <peter1138> as there are no ukrs newstations 21:41:55 <Brianetta> Oh 21:42:04 <Brianetta> So what's the jobby shown on Pikka's site? 21:42:14 <peter1138> mb's newstats 21:42:16 <Brianetta> Anyway - does it all work now? 21:42:29 <peter1138> mostly 21:42:31 <peter1138> enough to commit 21:46:30 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4757 /trunk/ (6 files): - Newstations: add saveload support for custom station speclists 21:52:19 <peter1138> hmm 21:52:21 <peter1138> not far now 21:52:31 <peter1138> my savegame works with trunk... 21:53:15 <Eddi|zuHause> so... what exactly is missing yet? 21:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause> gui? 21:53:21 <peter1138> basically 21:55:52 <Brianetta> So, 90% of the work is done. 21:55:59 <Brianetta> The GUI represents the other 90%. 21:56:21 <peter1138> 180%? 21:56:22 <peter1138> hmm 21:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that is the famous 90-90 rule? :p 21:56:48 <Brianetta> It's not additative, it's temporal 21:56:50 <Brianetta> Eddi: Yes 21:57:35 <Brianetta> 90% of the planned work is done, when it later turns out only to have been 10% of the actual total 21:57:37 <MeusH> peter1138: can I force VIM to save in a desired format? 21:58:01 <Brianetta> The 90-90 rule illustrates how people underestimate when planning 21:58:09 <Brianetta> vim? 21:59:32 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! newstations! :D 21:59:53 <Brianetta> Now we just need newindustries, and our fun grows more (: 22:00:02 <peter1138> and newcargos 22:00:08 <Prof_Frink> no, we just need newgrf. 22:00:34 <Brianetta> Prof_Frink: These are aspects of newgrf 22:00:53 <Brianetta> peter1138: Yes, just that, too 22:00:58 <Prof_Frink> I mean, _full_ newgrf 22:01:00 <Brianetta> and just some other things 22:01:20 <Brianetta> Prof_Frink: That's not a "just" concept 22:01:27 <peter1138> newcargos and newindustries are being worked on 22:01:32 <peter1138> in the planning / understanding stage currently 22:04:49 <peter1138> i need a faster pc 22:05:47 <MeusH> peter1138: I think we'll talk about that languages later, then 22:06:27 <peter1138> not sure if vim'll do that. it tends to stick to what the locale is set to 22:07:03 <MeusH> peter1138: maybye a private message, but not attachement, can do the work, hoping tt-forums.net will convert it to a proper unicode? 22:07:11 <MeusH> I really don't know what's wrong 22:07:29 <MeusH> I'm able to open the file and read it without problems in notepad, metapad, vim and firefox 22:07:59 <Brianetta> peter1138: My nightly is not just a public service; I could run a stable release for that. It's intended as a development resource, to enable testing in multiplayer. If you have any requests for newgrfs to be tested, let me know and they'll go on my nightly. 22:08:07 <MeusH> however, there is a small problem with firefox... 22:08:08 <MeusH> hmm 22:08:16 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4758 /trunk/ (4 files): - Newstations: add support for 'blocked' station tiles, which no train can pass. 22:08:55 <MeusH> firefox tends to display instead of ¹ 22:08:57 <peter1138> MeusH: firefox will let you pick the language to use to display it. see what happens if you tell it to use utf-8 22:09:05 <MeusH> ok 22:10:43 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4759 /trunk/newgrf_station.h: - Newstations: increase the number of station classes from 16 to 32. 16 was an arbitrary limit, 32 is the limit for dropdown lists... 22:10:49 <MeusH> you 22:10:56 <MeusH> you're right peter1138, something is wrong 22:11:17 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:19 <MeusH> any suggestions what is a plain yet good app to save the text properly? 22:11:59 <glx> MeusH: any editor that supports utf8 I guess 22:12:17 <peter1138> any editor that uses and can enforce utf-8 22:12:18 <peter1138> but 22:12:21 <peter1138> i don't know what 22:12:57 <KUDr> MeusH: VS2005 22:13:40 <DaleStan> MeusH: metapad can write UTF-16, in both B-E and L-E Notepad2 can write UTF-8. 22:14:27 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 22:15:18 <MeusH> DaleStan: isn't it just a display method? 22:15:36 <MeusH> I choose "Unicode" or "Unicode BE" but it doesn't even promt me about saving changes when quitting 22:15:52 <MeusH> peter1138: could you please take a look at your priv messages at the forum? 22:15:58 <DaleStan> Save it, prompt or no prompt. 22:16:02 <Maedhros> MeusH: :set fileencoding=utf-8 in vim might work 22:16:17 <peter1138> hmm 22:16:22 <KUDr> MeusH: send me the file and tell me your current encoding 22:16:25 <DaleStan> And then, if you want to be really sure, open it with frhed or similar. 22:18:42 *** nooga [i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl] has joined #openttd 22:19:32 <DaleStan> MeusH: I know metapad writes UTF-16, because I submitted a UTF-16 encoded newgrfw.cfg with one of my Patch bug reports, and Patchman got slightly confused. 22:20:18 <MeusH> thanks 22:20:23 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4760 /trunk/ (newgrf.c newgrf.h): - Newstations: change the way custom stations are allocated when loading from GRF, as the current way was flawed (reallocing memory which is referenced elsewhere) 22:20:24 <MeusH> I'll see what peter1138 says 22:20:41 <Eddi|zuHause> utf-16 is not really the best choice for western european text files 22:20:42 <peter1138> yeah, no-one uses UTF-16 :P 22:21:17 <Eddi|zuHause> on average, you get files twice as big :p 22:21:21 <nooga> well... does ottd npf use A* ? 22:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 22:21:29 <peter1138> yes it does 22:21:49 <Eddi|zuHause> as do NTP and YAPF as well (IIRC) 22:21:52 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: 15KB 22:21:56 <Eddi|zuHause> but each one does it differently 22:23:17 <Born_Acorn> yay! 22:23:49 <nooga> that must be hella complex to make A* to respect signals and all that thingys 22:24:27 <peter1138> could just be a cost? 22:24:47 <MeusH> peter1138: does the file look good, now? 22:24:52 <peter1138> i don't know 22:25:02 <peter1138> i can look in a moment 22:25:50 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:26:25 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:26:49 <MeusH> allright 22:26:59 <MeusH> it's getting late, I'm off 22:27:03 <MeusH> thanks for your support 22:27:04 <MeusH> cya 22:27:23 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 22:30:38 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4761 /trunk/ (newgrf_station.h station_cmd.c): - Newstations: support platform information in variable 10 (callback parameter 1) when building a station 22:32:57 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4762 /trunk/station_cmd.c: - Newstations: make child sprites transparent. 22:33:05 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: 10KB 22:34:34 <Eddi|zuHause> what are child sprites? 22:34:47 <peter1138> sprites that use the same bounding box 22:39:05 <DaleStan> peter1138: I'm not aware of any situation where those are supposed to be transparent for that reason. Transparency is controlled by high word of the sprite number, not whether or not it shares a bounding box. 22:39:59 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:40:50 <peter1138> i know 22:46:49 <Bjarni> peter1138: what is the point in having "blocked" station tiles? 22:47:02 <Eddi|zuHause> eye candy 22:47:04 <peter1138> Bjarni: http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ns7.png 22:47:07 <Eddi|zuHause> large station buildings 22:47:31 <Eddi|zuHause> extension of catchment radius ;) 22:47:59 <Bjarni> so basically it's a nicer looking sprite for extension of catchment area 22:48:03 <Bjarni> nice 22:48:25 <Eddi|zuHause> on that matter... can station buildings get higher catchment area than plain platform tiles? 22:48:32 <peter1138> DaleStan: ah, i see the problem 22:48:38 <peter1138> bit 14 o_O 22:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause> so you can build large terminal stations for big cities? 22:48:59 <peter1138> either that's different for newstations, or we've moved it to bit 31 22:49:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and simple platforms for small villages? 22:49:18 <XeryusTC> peter1138: looks nice :) 22:49:50 <nooga> hm? 22:49:54 <nooga> how can that be? 22:49:58 <Bjarni> XeryusTC: I hate your avatar on the forum 22:50:25 <Eddi|zuHause> comments? thoughts? 22:51:11 <peter1138> or maybe not. hmm. 22:51:12 <Bjarni> XeryusTC: could you please find another one. I mean, it's no fun to watch since it makes me think of a few close encounters in real life :( 22:51:42 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: ok 22:51:47 <Eddi|zuHause> something like platform=3, small station building = 4 (current), larger station buildings = 5 or 6? 22:52:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that way, station buildings get a gameplay value? 22:52:24 <DaleStan> Eddi|zuHause: More likely, you get whatever you choose to build. 22:53:14 <Eddi|zuHause> that statement did not make any sense to me... 22:54:32 <DaleStan> If you choose to build Grand Central Station in a little podunk town, then Grand Central Station gets built in a little podunk down. If you choose to build an Amshack, then an Amshack gets built. And so on. 22:55:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i understand that... but that has nothing to do with what catchment area those things get... 22:55:26 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4763 /trunk/ (newgrf.c station_cmd.c): - Newstations: revert r4762, instead map bit the palette modifier from bit 14 to bit 31 on GRF load. 22:55:41 <peter1138> hmm 22:56:20 <DaleStan> Careful with that too; bit 31 is used in the GRF to indicate TTD sprite versus new sprite. 22:56:33 <peter1138> DaleStan: it does this mapping after that 22:56:40 <DaleStan> OK. 22:57:13 *** vdepizzol_ [n=chatzill@200.242.12.134] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 22:57:29 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:57:50 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-235-126.vodafone-net.de] has quit ["muss wech"] 22:58:27 <peter1138> hmm 22:58:29 <peter1138> actually it doesn't 22:58:32 <peter1138> hohum 22:58:41 <peter1138> groundsprites are different 22:59:15 <peter1138> or something 22:59:16 <peter1138> hmm 23:01:32 <peter1138> awkward. hmm. 23:02:23 <peter1138> we definitely use bit 31 as the palette modifier 23:02:47 *** yanek [i=yanek@atlantis.mitranet.cz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:02:58 <peter1138> or ... 23:03:01 <DaleStan> Yeah. ground sprites set bit 31 to mean "Use new sprite"; building sprites set bit 31 to mean "use TTD sprite". 23:03:04 <peter1138> we don't 23:03:16 <peter1138> *sigh* 23:03:25 <peter1138> both those two commits are wrong, it looks like :P 23:05:33 <DaleStan> Much confusion resulted from that inconsistency when programming NFORenum. 23:06:05 *** nooga [i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl] has quit [] 23:16:05 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:17:41 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:21:01 <Born_Acorn> 10kb woo! 23:22:00 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 23:23:55 <peter1138> DaleStan: ok, i'm not clear on this, for ground sprites 23:24:10 <peter1138> how does it know which action 1 to use for custom ground sprites? 23:26:40 <DaleStan> Same as for building sprites. (That is, same action 3. It may be a different action 1 if bit 0 of prop 13 is set.) 23:28:49 <peter1138> hmm 23:35:22 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 23:38:24 *** yanek [i=yanek@atlantis.mitranet.cz] has joined #openttd 23:41:58 *** pixels [n=vrazix@24.128.96.101] has left #openttd ["everything ends, like me in this channel (#) [ avant-garde ]"] 23:43:10 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 23:44:32 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 23:44:56 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 23:47:37 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 23:49:09 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46ae0.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:52:47 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Newstations! 23:53:00 <peter1138> it's coming 23:53:04 <peter1138> my missus will kill me 23:53:19 <Born_Acorn> Kill her first! 23:53:38 <Born_Acorn> In war, he who strikes first skins the hair of the gopher! 23:54:09 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-122-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 23:54:23 <Born_Acorn> There is less than 20 ways to defrost a kitten! 23:59:15 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit []