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07:13:33 <lws1984> wait. 07:13:40 <k-man> oh 07:13:40 <lws1984> wait for it, it'll go soon 07:13:46 <k-man> they just go away after a while? 07:14:46 <lws1984> aye 07:20:06 <k-man> ok, thanks 07:20:26 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 07:20:35 <MeusH> hey 07:20:37 <MeusH> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25967&highlight= <- congrats people! 07:38:01 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:38:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:50:51 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:55:16 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36670.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:56:00 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 08:01:43 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B75FAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:33 *** Sian^_^ [n=Devilen@cpe.atm2-0-74539.0x50c6d2c6.virnxx17.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:04:48 <Sian^_^> ... how to get a r5431 to work? 08:04:59 <[Shaman]> compile it? 08:05:16 * [Shaman] points at the topic 08:06:19 <Sian^_^> how? 08:06:54 <MeusH> or download a nightly 08:07:06 <MeusH> unpack the .zip 08:07:13 <MeusH> add needed data files 08:07:14 <MeusH> and play 08:07:22 <[Shaman]> there's a thing called a 'wiki' with a link in the topic 08:07:36 <[Shaman]> might be worth while checking that out. 08:08:33 <Sian^_^> hmm ... were does i get an older nightly 08:08:51 <[Shaman]> again, link is in the topic. 08:09:15 <MeusH> were does I get? 08:09:18 <MeusH> where do I get? 08:09:28 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.73.133.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #openttd ["Konversation terminated!"] 08:09:30 <[Shaman]> MeusH: grammarnazi alarm. 08:09:33 <MeusH> http://nightly.openttd.org 08:09:51 <MeusH> http://nightly.openttd.org/win32/ 08:10:56 <MeusH> http://nightly.openttd.org/win32/OTTD-win32-nightly-r5431.zip 08:13:21 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 08:16:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:16:16 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 08:18:29 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 08:20:38 <MiHaMiX> heh 08:20:39 <CIA-3> miham * r5443 /trunk/lang/unfinished/simplified_chinese.txt: [Translations] Added new language-torso (not even the headers are complete, but hey, it's in unfinished) 08:22:07 <Zr40> MiHaMiX: any news on the 'debug' language? ;) 08:22:20 <MiHaMiX> Zr40: ask MeusH, he works on that 08:22:46 * Zr40 asks MeusH 08:23:05 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181095083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:25:20 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:25:31 <anboni> isn't the default daylength from the daylength patch supposed to get saved? 08:30:08 <MeusH> Zr40: possible 08:30:12 <MeusH> do you want a .txt? 08:30:29 <Zr40> well, I just wanted to know the progress on it ;) 08:30:38 <MeusH> the progress is good 08:30:44 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B800A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:30:59 <MeusH> I'll just distinguish unuseful things like {CURRENCY} from more useful like {TINYFONT} 08:31:05 <MeusH> so "more useful" won't be skipped 08:31:15 <MeusH> provided they are right after : 08:31:21 <MeusH> but now I'm off 08:31:21 <MeusH> bye 08:31:26 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away[ 08:31:28 *** MeusH[away[ is now known as MeusH[away] 08:32:01 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 08:34:40 *** heller [i=heller@87.94.25.60] has quit ["when you dream there are no rules people can fly, anythin can happen"] 08:36:48 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498F3F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 08:43:20 <MeusH[away]> only {SETX nn} and {SETXY nn mm} left 08:43:29 <MeusH[away]> cya 08:50:16 *** jonty_comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 08:50:29 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:51:14 *** jonty_comp is now known as jonty-comp 08:58:55 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 08:59:12 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181095083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 09:01:02 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:04:38 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 09:04:49 <Wolf01> yo 09:04:55 <anboni> hi 09:05:22 <anboni> repeated question from a while ago :) :isn't the default daylength from the daylength patch supposed to get saved? 09:06:01 <Wolf01> is saved in the openttd.cfg file 09:06:18 <Wolf01> but not in the savegames 09:06:54 <anboni> hmm.. that doesnt seem to be working too well then... i loaded a savegame earlier, in the exact same installation i started it in, and daylength was back to 1 09:07:42 <Wolf01> i don't have this problem, i save the game with 16x, then i change to 32x and when i re load the savegame is 32x 09:07:45 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 09:08:11 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:08:16 <anboni> odd 09:08:45 <MiHaMiX> even 09:08:46 <MiHaMiX> :D 09:09:07 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@40.179.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 09:09:09 <anboni> for me it doesnt even remember it when i save and instantly load a game without shutting down ottd 09:10:19 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: new languages 09:10:26 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: where? :D 09:10:31 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: i'm guessing changing ##name will upset wt2 09:10:38 <peter1138> so 09:10:51 <Wolf01> uhm it does remember also for me, maybe is not updated 09:10:55 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: let's move our conversation to #openttd.wt2 09:10:56 <peter1138> can you please fix them? :) 09:11:09 <TrueLight> how is the release going? :p 09:12:00 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:12:33 <anboni> Wolf01, i'm running miniin r5432 currently.. that doesnt have the latest daylength patch? 09:13:04 <Wolf01> i think yes, but somethink broke it 09:14:33 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:16:27 <Wolf01> SDT_CONDVAR(Patches, day_length, SLE_UINT8, 34, SL_MAX_VERSION, NS, 0, 1, 1, 32, STR_CONFIG_PATCHES_DAY_LENGTH, NULL), 09:16:27 <Wolf01> it has the NS flag so it doesn't have to be saved, only synchronized with the server, it does? 09:17:17 <anboni> playing single player.. couldn't tell you if it's getting synced 09:19:44 <Wolf01> as i said, something has broken the patch 09:19:46 <Wolf01> SDT_VAR(Patches, day_length, SLE_UINT8,NS, 0, 1, 1, 32, STR_CONFIG_PATCHES_DAY_LENGTH, NULL), 09:19:51 <Wolf01> the correct line was this 09:20:56 <anboni> doesnt even look close :) 09:21:11 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 09:25:44 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:42:22 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 09:55:46 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 09:56:06 <TrueLight> Wolf01|AFK: it in fact is exactly the same line, just one has (and they both should have had) version-check in it 09:57:07 *** _bitwise [n=_bitwise@ipa97.8.tellas.gr] has joined #openttd 10:00:17 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:08:11 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@40.179.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 10:14:27 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@40.179.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 10:16:50 *** Kalpa [i=kalpa@dsl-hkigw4-fe38de00-122.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:19:04 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:22:49 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:24:57 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B800A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 10:26:21 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openTTD 10:39:41 *** nfc [i=nfc@dsl-hkigw7-fec3dc00-123.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:45:59 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:47:13 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36670.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 10:50:53 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B60E04.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 10:54:43 *** MeusH[away] [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:56:04 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:59:10 <eQualizer> Is there any fancy and automated way to replace e.g. monorail train with maglev train? 11:00:55 <[Shaman]> there's a track converter.. but afaik not a train converter :o 11:00:59 <eQualizer> Atm I renew them by selling the train, upgrading the railroaddepot and building a new train. 11:01:16 <CIA-3> richk * r5444 /branches/MiniIN/main_gui.c: [MiniIN]: [Subsidiaries]: Fix. Corrected width of scroll area in status bar. Moved red dot a few pixels right to centre it in the subsidiaries button. 11:01:56 <anboni> wtf.. why is richk commiting while he isn't even here... 11:03:00 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 11:05:17 <[Shaman]> anboni: why do you care? :P 11:05:42 <anboni> cuz i have an updated patch for him :) 11:10:11 <Brianetta> PM him 11:13:47 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 11:14:12 <hylje> anboni: whats the status with desyncs in the miniin coop 11:14:57 <anboni> hylje, havent really done anything much anymore, but i didn't have any more desyncs for the half hour i kept playing after you left 11:15:06 <hylje> oh k 11:15:29 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:17:54 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 11:21:38 *** copperc0re [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 11:21:54 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 11:24:25 <CIA-3> richk * r5445 /branches/MiniIN/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MiniIN]: [TransparencyOptions]: Updated to latest version of patch. Transparency option state is now memorised if the option is enabled. 11:26:45 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-238.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 11:28:12 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 11:28:18 <Belugas> TrueLight : still around? 11:29:33 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:30:02 <TrueLight> Belugas: eating, but yeah 11:30:08 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B800A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:30:27 <Belugas> ho... i'll let you sustain yourself then :) 11:30:32 <Sacro> whoa 11:30:37 <Belugas> When you'll be back : http://openttd.belugasmasques.org/NoMoreMusicLoop.patch 11:30:49 <Belugas> what do you think of it? 11:31:19 <Belugas> it will prevent the system to keep searching for gm files when there is none 11:31:27 <Belugas> hey Sacro 11:31:34 <Sacro> hey Belugas 11:31:48 <Sacro> my system seems completly different...im not sure what i did 11:32:05 <TrueLight> Belugas: as you might know, I am no longer active as OpenTTD developer :) 11:32:08 <TrueLight> so really wrong person :) 11:32:17 <Sacro> X-Chat seems to be using a different font, and also is spell checking... 11:33:25 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 11:34:15 <Belugas> TrueLight: ho well... i was merely trying to enrole you back in ;) 11:34:24 <TrueLight> you failed, sorry :) 11:34:29 <Belugas> but ok, fair enough :) 11:34:51 <Belugas> opendune? 11:35:29 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:36:22 <TrueLight> currently nothing 11:36:29 <Sacro> opendune? 11:36:45 <Belugas> nothingness is fun... resourcing :) 11:36:56 <Belugas> Enjoy it and Dance! 11:36:59 <Belugas> ok... time for starting the day by a fresh shower... 11:37:06 <Belugas> see you soon 11:37:10 <TrueLight> Dancing is cool :) 11:37:11 <TrueLight> enjoy :) 11:37:12 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 11:37:30 <Belugas_Gone> bye 11:39:22 <Sacro> TrueLight: http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25973 :D 11:39:40 <Sacro> its like a daily caption contest 11:40:26 <TrueLight> yeah 11:40:34 <TrueLight> I have to remember the policy of TTForums for thisone... 11:41:03 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 11:41:11 <MeusH> hi 11:41:18 <TrueLight> k, locked topic 11:41:29 <MeusH> Debug language .txt is ready 11:42:21 <MeusH> how to compile strgen? 11:42:25 <MeusH> make strgen? 11:44:44 <MeusH> allright seems I compiled it 11:45:01 <MeusH> how to create a .lng file out of .txt? 11:45:06 <TrueLight> Sacro: and yes, opendune :p 11:45:07 <MeusH> is there any strgen documentation? 11:45:12 <MeusH> brb 11:45:15 <TrueLight> MeusH: yes, wiki 11:47:25 <Sacro> ive never played dune 11:47:59 <TrueLight> it is SO COOL! :) Dune2 that is 11:49:36 <Triffid_Hunter> lol @ dune2.. i pull that one out in dosbox every so often 11:49:44 <Sacro> hehe "The bowlers Holding, the batsmens Willey" 11:49:53 <Sacro> what kinda game is it? 11:50:43 <TrueLight> The founder of the C&C game-type 11:50:50 <TrueLight> (You do know C&C, right?) 11:51:21 <Sacro> yeah, course 11:51:46 <Kjetil> dune2 <3 11:52:33 <Noldo> oh the memories 11:56:38 <Wolf01> somebody has C&C first decade? 11:59:59 <hylje> yes 12:00:42 <Kjetil> first decade ? 12:01:00 <Wolf01> yes great game pack :Q__ 12:01:14 <Wolf01> i bought it yesterday 12:01:33 <Sacro> nice 12:02:02 <Kjetil> ok 12:02:38 <Wolf01> is possible to play the games without the DVD? 12:04:02 <Sacro> most probably 12:09:19 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176104171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:14:15 <Sacro> [13:16] <bony> are there any tools which will convert vb code to php? 12:15:48 <Kjetil> haha 12:16:21 <Sacro> n00bs in ##php :) 12:16:57 *** TinoM [n=chatzill@pD9FFCA77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:45 <MeusH> nice one :) 12:20:20 <MiHaMiX> lol 12:20:50 <Sacro> [13:23] * MiHaMiX (n=miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu) has joined ##php <-- STALKER :o 12:21:01 <MiHaMiX> ... 12:21:58 <MeusH> they have like 0 ops there 12:22:10 <TrueLight> can be good channel management 12:22:18 *** mode/#openttd [-o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 12:22:21 <TrueLight> Now we hav e0 ops here too 12:22:22 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: as on all about channel 12:22:26 <MiHaMiX> hmm 12:22:31 <TrueLight> :p 12:22:52 *** mode/#openttd [+o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 12:23:19 <TrueLight> mwhahahahahahha :p 12:23:23 <MiHaMiX> ... :P 12:23:42 <MeusH> oh yeah :) 12:23:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueLight] by MiHaMiX 12:24:11 <TrueLight> tnx :) 12:24:23 <MiHaMiX> bbl, lunch 12:24:30 <MeusH> bon apetit 12:25:48 * Sacro wants to be an op 12:26:21 * MeusH too 12:26:33 <MeusH> so does /me <-- :P 12:26:55 <Kjetil> eeek.. opbegging 12:27:04 <Sacro> N 12:27:10 <Sacro> Kjetil: yes... :) 12:27:25 <Sacro> Chanserv says no :( 12:27:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v Sacro] by ChanServ 12:27:37 <TrueLight> you can get that 12:27:42 <Sacro> :D 12:27:54 <Sacro> a nice shiny yellow dot 12:29:58 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-238.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:30:17 <TrueLight> LETS KICK SOME ASS! 12:30:18 <TrueLight> YEAH! 12:30:20 <TrueLight> llalalalalaaa 12:30:27 <MeusH> YEAH 12:30:31 <MeusH> let's fry their balls 12:30:33 <MeusH> go go go 12:30:45 * MeusH runs to kick some asses and fry some balls 12:32:17 <TrueLight> crazy boy 12:32:18 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-238.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:28 <Sacro> :O its him 12:32:36 <MeusH> hopefully jointy didn't see what happened 12:32:45 <Sacro> he can be the 1st... 12:33:19 *** hapoM [i=hapo@KCCLXXIV.gprs.saunalahti.fi] has joined #openttd 12:34:01 <hapoM> after using some cheats, most of my vehicles seem to lose their reliability *extremely* quickly... is this a known bug? 12:34:19 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 12:34:21 <hapoM> for example, a train may get to 0% in just a year! 12:34:56 <MeusH> do you sent trains to depots regularry (s/l/r :P ) 12:35:00 <MeusH> ? 12:35:16 <hapoM> regularly, that is :) 12:35:24 <hapoM> nope, I just use the normal service intervals 12:35:29 <hapoM> that have worked before using the cheats 12:35:33 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 12:35:33 <anboni> what kind of word is regurarry? 12:35:44 <MeusH> irregurrar? :) 12:35:51 <Sacro> engrish? 12:35:58 <hapoM> I don't actually know if the bug has appeared because of using cheats but it did at least appear almost at the same time with that 12:35:59 <MeusH> hapoM: aren't the vehicles too old? 12:36:19 <MeusH> try plaing a savegame from before using a cheat 12:36:23 <anboni> RichK67, ! 12:36:27 <RichK67> hi 12:36:41 <RichK67> Truelight ping 12:36:45 <TrueLight> RichK67: pong 12:36:56 <hapoM> MeusH: no, just some one of two years 12:36:58 <RichK67> hi - private chat? 12:37:00 <hapoM> that's why I'm wondering 12:37:02 <Sacro> Everyone: pang :D 12:37:14 <TrueLight> that is up to you not? :p 12:37:39 <hapoM> does owen rudge frequent this channel, btw? 12:37:49 <anboni> RichK67, i noticed the MiniIN still has an old version of my loadingindicators.. this one doesnt properly refresh.. possible problem though, the new patch is significantly different code from the old one 12:38:36 <MeusH> yes hapoM 12:38:44 <MeusH> but he's gone on his holidays right now 12:38:53 <hapoM> ok 12:39:21 <hapoM> me too, but holidays are the best time for hanging up online :P 12:39:35 <hapoM> or hanging around 12:39:44 <hapoM> whatever that is in correct english 12:40:23 <Sacro> around 12:40:34 <hapoM> yep 12:40:39 <hapoM> as I thoght 12:40:40 <hapoM> *thought 12:41:18 <hapoM> something that I wonder is why there are so damn many finns here :P 12:41:32 <hapoM> maybe we're just a people addicted to transport tycoon games 12:41:58 <MeusH> http://delart.pl/meusz/stuff/debug.txt 12:42:01 <MeusH> http://delart.pl/meusz/stuff/debug.lng 12:42:10 <RichK67> anboni - well, if you can download the absolute latest MiniIN, then apply the update to that, then post me the diff, ill update it today 12:43:28 <anboni> ok 12:46:05 <CIA-3> richk * r5446 /branches/MiniIN/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 12:46:05 <CIA-3> [MiniIN]: [SignalAutocomplete]: Updated with latest changes from Hazelrah. 12:46:05 <CIA-3> Settings continue to be saved as before, to maintain compatability. 12:47:13 <Sacro> hmm, how do i get beagle to index my whole system 12:47:14 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["-"] 12:47:24 <tank_> Sacro: edit the beagle config file 12:47:49 <tank_> Sacro: i tried beagle some time ago, i had to enter the paths, which it had to index, into a config file 12:47:54 <Sacro> i went on an install spree at 2:30 am, im just trying to figure out what happened... 12:50:59 <hapoM> is OpenTTD written entirely in C? 12:51:04 <Sacro> hapoM: no 12:51:09 <TrueLight> hapoM: sadly enough, not anymore :( 12:51:14 <hapoM> I can code C to some extent but I'm totally helpless with C++ 12:51:18 <Sacro> there are bits of C++ and bits of asm 12:51:42 <RichK67> but 80%+ is C AFAIK 12:51:42 <anboni> hapoM, with just C knowledge, you'll probably do just fine 12:51:55 <TrueLight> just don't try to touch the yapf dir :p 12:52:06 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueLight] by TrueLight 12:52:17 <anboni> i think the biggest chunk of C++ code is yapf.. and there's some coding styles derived from C++ throughout the rest of the code 12:53:35 <hapoM> ? 12:54:32 <hapoM> RichK67: well, that's enough for me :) 12:55:09 <hapoM> I can some OOP and have coded in Java quite a lot 12:55:20 <hapoM> but C++ is an unclimbable fence for me 12:55:31 <hapoM> its syntax is something I neither like or master 12:55:53 <TrueLight> hapoM: which in fact is a good thing :) 12:55:58 <hapoM> well, I have never had a real course in that language... 12:56:11 <hapoM> I wouldn't even have learned java if only had self-studied it 12:56:26 <TrueLight> I Wouldn't have known any language if I hadn't self-studied it, your point? :) 12:56:29 <hapoM> since as a linguist I'm not _that_ of a genius in programming 12:56:39 <hapoM> yep :) that's true 12:56:50 <hapoM> maybe C++ isn't that hard when you have a good teacher 12:56:54 <hapoM> explaining the things 12:56:59 <Sacro> wheres good for self studying java/c? 12:57:00 <TrueLight> you don't want to learn C++ 12:57:02 <TrueLight> really, don't :p 12:57:05 <Sacro> i know a fair bit of PHP 12:57:19 <TrueLight> Sacro: for C, use 'man' :p 12:57:20 <TrueLight> mwhahahahaha :) 12:57:26 <hapoM> but well, since openttd is mostly C, I can contribute to it immediately :) 12:57:35 <hapoM> or not entirely "immediately" since I'm at my subber cabin right now 12:57:39 *** TinoM [n=chatzill@pD9FFCA77.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 12:57:43 <hapoM> and don't have a compiler 12:57:48 <Sacro> TrueLight: heh 12:57:56 <hapoM> or a good Internet connection :P 12:57:57 <Sacro> subber? 12:58:04 <hapoM> summer, that is 12:58:11 <hapoM> typo day for me 12:59:04 <hapoM> with GPRS it's quite much impossible to get a compiler downloaded... this is flat rate but it would take half a day to download anything big 12:59:20 <hapoM> in case the connection even works all the time 12:59:24 <Sacro> hmm 12:59:41 <hapoM> but at home it's a whole different ballgame :) 13:00:57 <hapoM> I'm btw the person who "ported" simutrans to BeOS (technically speaking, ported the gfx engine to SDL) 13:01:36 <anboni> RichK67, here's the patch to get r5445 from old loadingindicators patch to new: http://ivory.xs4all.nl/anboni/loadingindicators_MiniIN_r5445.diff 13:01:54 *** Angst [n=Angst@p5494656C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:02:43 <anboni> RichK67, the actual patch is at http://ivory.xs4all.nl/anboni/loadingindicators.diff for inclusion into MiniINpatches.zip (applies unmodified to recent trunks) 13:03:20 <RichK67> thanks 13:06:26 <TrueLight> RichK67: you receive more patches then OpenTTD itself did I believe :p 13:06:54 *** paulsen [i=erik@host-81-191-45-251.bluecom.no] has quit [] 13:07:19 <anboni> TrueLight, if some dev would stand up and say he'd want to include my loadingindicators in trunk, i'd be happy to supply him with a patch :) 13:07:21 <RichK67> lol 13:07:31 <TrueLight> anboni: I am sure you would :) 13:09:43 *** hapoM [i=hapo@KCCLXXIV.gprs.saunalahti.fi] has left #openttd ["Lähdössä"] 13:10:36 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-226.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 13:12:12 <RichK67> looks to work :) 13:12:19 <anboni> :) 13:13:45 <CIA-3> richk * r5447 /branches/MiniIN/ (8 files in 2 dirs): 13:13:45 <CIA-3> [MiniIN]: [LoadingIndicators]: Updated to latest version. 13:13:45 <CIA-3> Many thanks to anboni for MiniIN version. 13:14:28 <RichK67> thats how i like them... nice and clean apply - no conflicts... compile it, test it, commit it :) 13:14:36 <anboni> hehe 13:15:14 <RichK67> had to reject the powerful economy patch today... lots of problems 13:15:19 <anboni> i've been considering doing the same for my station statistics.. but that one seriously conflicts with a few other patches (most notably the one that gives station options) 13:15:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> what does a powerful economy patch do? 13:15:52 <RichK67> allows enormous production quantities 13:16:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah... i'd really like that :) 13:16:16 <RichK67> basically increases the growth rate for a well serviced station 13:16:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> huge map with very few cities, lots of villages, few industries, but very high production 13:16:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> when miniIN is at that point, please tell me :) 13:16:58 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:17:06 <RichK67> problem was he had combined it with another unrelated patch, included general code cleanup for lines not related to his patch, and not considered what to do in multiplayer 13:17:18 <anboni> ouch 13:17:34 <RichK67> other than that it was perfect ;) 13:18:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> is there meanwhile a patch that prevents villages from turning into megalopolis as soon as you place a station? 13:18:31 <RichK67> in fact, i think his "stealth" patch that he tried to sneak in is more likely to make it straight into MiniIN than the main patch! 13:19:08 <RichK67> eddi: sure - dont service your stations... works a treat ;) 13:19:25 <anboni> RichK67, what was the stealth patch? 13:19:55 <RichK67> it allowed conversion of track from normal to electrified even with a train under it... makes total sense to me 13:20:06 <anboni> ooh, that's nice 13:20:13 <anboni> but what the fuck is the relation with powerful economy? :) 13:20:24 <MeusH> there is no relation 13:20:27 <MeusH> and that's what's wrong 13:20:32 <RichK67> precisely... none... hence why i rejected both 13:20:51 <RichK67> if i needed to pull one patch at a later date, i would lose the other 13:21:24 <anboni> and i bet, if done properly, the conversion patch would stand a good chance of getting included in trunk pretty soon too 13:21:35 <RichK67> yup - i would recommend it 13:21:59 <MeusH> RichK67: are there any suggestions to make a patch? 13:22:11 <Rens2Sea> help! my maglev trains are suddently extremely slow :/ 13:22:11 <MeusH> you know, I'll have some free time 13:22:24 <gradator> Rens2Sea: too old ? 13:22:25 <MeusH> Rens2Sea: Push them 13:22:28 <Rens2Sea> no 13:22:31 <Rens2Sea> only 3 years 13:22:38 <gradator> then push them :p 13:22:42 <MeusH> Rens2Sea: breakdown? hills? curves? 13:22:42 <Rens2Sea> :/ 13:22:45 <Rens2Sea> none 13:22:51 <MeusH> signals? stations? depots? 13:22:54 <Rens2Sea> and a filled coal train is even older 13:22:56 <Rens2Sea> er 13:22:57 <Rens2Sea> slower 13:23:02 <MeusH> waypoints? 13:23:05 <Rens2Sea> nope 13:23:21 <MeusH> does it accelerate slowly or it can't go faster than some fixed speed? 13:23:36 <Rens2Sea> 230 km/s is fastest 13:23:43 <Rens2Sea> or 80 13:24:02 <Rens2Sea> even if the coal train isn't filled it goes 80 13:24:14 <Rens2Sea> jeez 13:24:17 <Rens2Sea> should go like 600 13:26:09 <Rens2Sea> two trains, both the same 13:26:11 <Rens2Sea> one going 80 13:26:15 <Rens2Sea> other going 230 13:26:28 <Rens2Sea> ah i get it 13:26:35 <Rens2Sea> it's a grf :/ 13:26:52 <Rens2Sea> wich grf is the one with those BR trains? 13:27:24 <RichK67> ukrs has knackered maglev 13:27:51 <RichK67> makes it slower, and passenger/mail/goods only... unless he's updated it again ;) 13:27:55 <Rens2Sea> dont have that one 13:28:39 <Rens2Sea> ah found it 13:28:47 <Rens2Sea> dbsetxlw.grf 13:28:54 <Rens2Sea> evil 13:29:34 <anboni> hmm.. that option "multiply weight of freight to simulate heavy train" makes for some interesting effects... some of those trains go so slowly up the slopes.. if they'd go any slower, they'd go backwards... 13:30:22 <RichK67> yup ;) i think the weight multiplier should be limited 13:30:55 <anboni> yeah.. i didn't see it doing anything initially.. guess it only gets applied while loading 13:31:22 <anboni> so now i have a bunch of trains crawling around over the mainline... weighing 7836t... vs 556t normal :) 13:34:45 <anboni> i also noticed that multiplier jumps from 1 to 6 to 11.. those intervals seem a bit strange to me 13:35:50 <peter1138> yeah, i said it should be changed, heh 13:35:59 <peter1138> 1-20 is probably a sane range 13:38:03 <RichK67> lol - shall i bring sanity then? ;) 13:38:49 <RichK67> peter - 1..20 ... sure? 14:04:48 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:06:03 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 14:10:36 *** moebius_ [n=moebius@213.60.238.240] has joined #openttd 14:10:41 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:13:13 <RichK67> peter1138: ping 14:20:57 <RichK67> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=461631#461631 <-- can you consider raising limit to 32767 or 65535?? 16383 is a bit limiting with all the newgrf goodies people have available now 14:23:12 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 14:23:14 <RichK67> bbl 14:23:19 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 14:27:40 *** Red348 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 14:29:16 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 14:29:17 <TrueLight> It is HOT HOT HOT 14:32:16 <MeusH> haha, you shouldn't have tried to fry your ballz 14:36:26 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 14:47:33 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:47:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 14:50:34 <MeusH> good progress on tile measurement :) 14:50:42 <MeusH> now height difference is being displayed properly 14:52:26 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:09:04 <MeusH> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=461641#461641 15:14:26 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:15:32 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 15:23:22 <MeusH> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=461648#461648 15:23:27 <MeusH> can you guys help him? 15:23:37 <MeusH> his compiler can't generate "object file" 15:23:47 *** tokai [i=tokai@p54B801CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:24:24 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B801CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:27:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i would look at the "obvious" places first 15:27:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> writing rights? 15:27:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> enough space? 15:28:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> other than that, it is far too few information 15:29:51 <MeusH> thanks 15:30:59 <MeusH> peter1138: did you commit your canals on sea level patch? 15:31:46 <MeusH> It would be great because bad guys won't be able to bury rivers (after they are converted to canals (for free?)) to stop good guys' ships 15:33:59 <peter1138> yes 15:37:07 <MeusH> could you drasticly lower the costs of building canals on sea level? 15:37:29 <MeusH> currently it is cost of demolishing water tile (a lot) plus cost of building a canal (way too much)? 15:37:42 <MeusH> and there is no visual effect 15:40:22 <peter1138> that would come as part of rebalancing costs 15:40:41 <peter1138> you can build a canal piece over a normal water tile 15:41:08 <peter1138> and you get edges, but only if its adjacent to land 15:49:09 <MeusH> but you see, edges are purely cosmetic 15:49:38 <MeusH> I'd say these canals are more like "buy water" tool - "buy land" for water 15:50:10 <peter1138> what are you suggesting? heh 15:51:39 <MeusH> I'm suggesting that it should cost as much as "buy land" tool 15:51:49 <MeusH> as it simply prevents other from obstructing your ship route 15:54:05 <MeusH> anyway, there is something strange either with MSVC2005 or webfreakz.nl 15:54:09 <MeusH> you're a good coder 15:54:25 <MeusH> perhaps you could take a look at http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=461648#461648 ? 15:55:06 <MeusH> You see, I'll be away for almost two weeks and he is the only one (yet) who can test my patch 15:55:10 *** Frostregen_ [n=sucks@dslb-084-058-182-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:55:55 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:59:28 <peter1138> GetStringPtr() is internal to strings.c 15:59:43 <peter1138> you've removed the static, but not put a definition in a header 15:59:47 <peter1138> so it's undefined 16:00:15 <MeusH> so the definition should go to string.h? 16:00:53 <peter1138> whether it needs to be 16:02:06 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:02:38 <MeusH> I'm wondering why some functions are marked as const in .c file, while their definitions are not marked with const in a header file 16:02:50 <MeusH> it's const char in .c, but char in .h 16:03:12 <peter1138> which? 16:04:55 <MeusH> ohyeah, it's me blind stupid 16:05:00 <MeusH> sorry 16:05:02 <MeusH> nvm 16:12:42 <TrueLight> it has gotton so hot here, that even standing still makes me sweat 16:13:15 <MeusH> hmm... const char *GetStringPtr(StringID string); in strings.h returns an error during compilation 16:13:23 <_bitwise> its not really hot until your teeth sweats 16:13:29 <MeusH> strings.h:14: error: syntax error before "string" 16:13:29 <MeusH> strings.h:14: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype 16:13:49 <MeusH> maybye it is StringID? 16:15:25 *** Frostregen [n=sucks@dslb-084-058-097-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:15:46 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 16:27:58 <MeusH> _bitwise: teeth? how is that possible? 16:28:15 <MeusH> peter1138: anyway, why is that GetStringPtr a constans? 16:28:18 <_bitwise> MeusH: has to be really hot :P 16:30:41 <MeusH> too bad if one must constantly expectorate :D 16:31:41 <peter1138> it is to enforce constness 16:32:14 <peter1138> so you can't change the lang files 16:34:04 <MeusH> do you have any proposal why does "const char *GetStringPtr(StringID string);" produce an error during compilation? 16:34:14 <MeusH> strings.h:14: error: syntax error before "string" 16:34:15 <MeusH> strings.h:14: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype 16:36:10 <MeusH> and by the way, what's char*? 16:36:19 <MeusH> I know that * before sth means it's a pointer 16:36:22 <MeusH> but after? 16:40:47 <peter1138> ... 16:40:54 <peter1138> it's before 16:41:01 <peter1138> char *foo 16:41:05 <peter1138> char *GetStringPtr 16:41:16 <MeusH> no 16:41:17 <MeusH> char* buf 16:41:23 <peter1138> no difference 16:41:29 <MeusH> strings.h line 6 16:41:32 <peter1138> we used char *buf 16:41:32 <MeusH> ohyeah, allright 16:41:33 <peter1138> except tron 16:41:40 <MeusH> I see 16:41:44 <peter1138> tron has his own rules there 16:42:58 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 16:43:01 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:44:30 <MeusH> but I still don't know how to fix that error :( 16:44:37 <MeusH> I have completly no idea 16:45:38 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CFE7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:47:22 <Maedhros> MeusH: i think it means that the compiler has no idea what a StringID is, so you'll have to include the typedef in the header as well 16:48:29 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 16:53:57 <MeusH> hmm bridge.h somehow knows what StringID is 16:55:32 <MeusH> so does industry.h 16:56:24 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:56:35 <anboni> MeusH, looking for this one? openttd.h:71:typedef uint16 StringID; 16:57:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> <MeusH> and there is no visual effect <- how about lines of buoys (similar to railway fences) 16:57:56 <MeusH> lines of buoys? I haven't seem them 16:58:03 <MeusH> I saw some kind of small wall 16:58:06 <MeusH> anyway, anboni 16:58:08 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B80017.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:58:14 <MeusH> #include "strings.h" is after #include "openttd.h" 17:01:04 <peter1138> not in all files 17:01:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i meant that as a suggestion ;) 17:02:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> someone would have to draw them first ;) 17:02:46 *** Red348 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:03:01 <MeusH> peter1138: I see, so I should reorganize it so openttd.h is higher? 17:03:29 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B80017.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:03:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> i would include openttd.h in string.h 17:04:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> +s 17:05:11 <MeusH> the name is ????? :D 17:05:30 <MeusH> okay 17:06:05 <moebius_> MeusH: that was in Unicode? 17:06:37 <peter1138> doesn't look like it 17:07:11 <MeusH> http://translator2.openttd.org/charset.php 17:07:20 <MeusH> Arabian + Hebrew, methinks 17:12:10 <MeusH> perhaps a new OpenTTD logo? 17:12:11 <MeusH> ??? ???? 17:13:59 <moebius_> I thought it was utf-8 because xchat showed the characters correctly 17:14:12 <moebius_> but I never had seen complex character sets being used in irc 17:14:17 *** tokai [i=tokai@p54B801CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:14:50 <Hendikins> ooo RTL too 17:14:50 <MeusH> I saw it two days ago 17:15:05 <MeusH> someone was typing it and my xchat was crashing :? 17:15:09 <MeusH> now it doesn't 17:15:09 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 17:15:14 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B801CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:16:45 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387CFE7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:19:45 <Brianetta> chat had a UTF8 bug 17:19:50 <Brianetta> xchat 17:20:08 <CIA-3> miham * r5448 /trunk/lang/ (catalan.txt norwegian.txt romanian.txt swedish.txt): 17:20:08 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-07-02 19:18:16 17:20:08 <CIA-3> catalan - 19 fixed by jecaro (19) 17:20:08 <CIA-3> norwegian - 11 fixed by oletk (5), brygge_2 (6) 17:20:08 <CIA-3> romanian - 22 fixed by kneekoo (22) 17:20:09 <CIA-3> swedish - 23 fixed, 1 deleted, 30 changed by cjw (54) 17:21:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i see utf8 characters all the time... 17:21:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> starting with äöü 17:22:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> up to greek letters occasionally 17:22:09 <MiHaMiX> Total I18N status: 94% - 4310 bad strings out of 73528 strings (2626 strings / language) 17:22:51 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause2: slavic chars stars with D 17:23:09 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause2: not a literal D, but with something which resembles me to a D letter :) 17:23:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have never seen those 17:23:57 <Wolf01> where is richk? i have to tell him that i get asserts when i open the configure patches window 17:24:01 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause2: take a look at lang/unfinished/ukrainain.txt :-D 17:24:02 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CFE7.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:24:17 <anboni> Wolf01, i just ran into that too, was also looking for him :) 17:24:18 <MiHaMiX> ukrainian :) 17:24:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> at least not before i had mirc 6.17 which understood utf8 correctly ;) 17:24:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> all people talking with slavic characters did not use utf8 until then, but some east european encoding 17:25:03 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause2: visualise a hex D0 char :) 17:25:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> which was just aeiiieooiei with strange accents in western encoding 17:27:15 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:28:19 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 17:28:44 <Wolf01> anboni, we summoned him!!!! 17:28:54 <anboni> RichK67, openttd: settings_gui.c:730: PatchesSelectionWndProc: Assertion `sd != ((void *)0)' failed. 17:29:16 <anboni> Wolf01, :) 17:29:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> wtf is a (void *)0? 17:29:19 <Wolf01> i get Assertion `sd != null' instead 17:29:30 <RichK67> damn 17:29:32 <anboni> might be difference between windows and linux? 17:30:04 <RichK67> its the error you get when youve got the sequence of the parts of a condvar out of step 17:30:13 <anboni> RichK67, it isn't my loadingindicators.. already reverted back to just before your commit :) 17:30:32 <anboni> RichK67, it happens when you open the patches window (doesnt matter if its from main screen or within a game) 17:30:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's a compiler thing, if the compiler expands such things before applying the macro, or afterwards 17:30:54 <RichK67> yup - thats where it appears 17:31:06 <RichK67> nope ... trust me, ive seen this before 17:31:15 <anboni> it started with r5446.. r5445 doesnt have the problem yet 17:31:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> i mean the difference between 'null' and '(void 17:31:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> *)0' 17:32:17 <TrueLight> NULL is a 0-pointer, so it is a nice way to describe NULL :p 17:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's probably semantically identical, but one compiler expanded the null to (void *)0 before putting it in the string for the assert macro 17:32:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the other compiler does it afterwards 17:32:51 <TrueLight> or not at all 17:32:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> so you end up with different outputs 17:33:29 <RichK67> lines 1262 & 1263 of settings.c causes it... the SLE_INT8 should come *before* the version rang 17:33:31 <RichK67> range 17:35:37 <RichK67> fixed .. uploading 17:35:43 <anboni> :) 17:36:11 <peter1138> RichK67: sprite limit, no chance 17:36:31 <Wolf01> ok, was that, i was scared that the day_length patch has broke something 17:38:52 <CIA-3> richk * r5449 /branches/MiniIN/settings.c: 17:38:52 <CIA-3> [MiniIN]: - Fix. Parameter order was incorrect on CONDVARs I changed for latest Signal Completion update. Oops :) 17:38:52 <CIA-3> Thanks to anboni and Wolf01 for heads up on this. 17:39:55 <RichK67> i keep finding i follow the pattern for CONDBOOL when doing a CONDVAR... done this one too often ;) 17:40:33 <anboni> at least that makes for easy fixing :) 17:40:38 <anboni> looking good now 17:40:46 <Wolf01> uhm, RichK67, there is an update for daylength 17:41:07 <RichK67> yeah - as soon as you said the error, i knew *exactly* what and where.... as i said, seen it before 17:41:12 <Wolf01> signal wait times, running costs and something else 17:41:18 <RichK67> Wolf01: link? 17:41:25 <Wolf01> wait a sec 17:42:00 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net//files/daylength_miniin_fixed_most_986.diff 17:42:30 <Wolf01> i don't know if you can merge it, if not i'll make an updated diff in some minutes 17:43:25 <Wolf01> ok, no problems, you can merge it 17:44:03 <Wolf01> there are only some little changes on single lines 17:44:40 <Brianetta> flollabaloing! 17:44:55 <RichK67> hmm... wolf01 - the change on interest rate... interest should still only be applied daily, otherwise, it will go compound interest like mad, and by 2050 a bus will cost 250,000,000 17:44:59 <Brianetta> That's the sound of a mattress being thrown down the stairs 17:45:33 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-238.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:45:50 <RichK67> a day is still a day, even if it takes longer... 17:46:34 <Wolf01> but a train can earn more cash in a day if is longer 17:47:12 <RichK67> yes, so? if everybody's trains earn more, there is no relative change 17:47:40 <Wolf01> but is like cheating: build while paused 17:48:00 <MeusH> hey Wolf01 hey RichK67 17:48:01 <Wolf01> the taxes/running costs are like paused 17:48:06 <RichK67> its the point of the patch - a day lasts longer, the train travels further, it earns more in a day 17:48:08 <Wolf01> yo MeusH 17:48:17 <RichK67> hi MeusH 17:48:25 *** Ammler1 [n=chatzill@60.144.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 17:48:28 <MeusH> RichK67: I see the progress :) 17:49:53 <RichK67> anyway, looking at that patch; it *displays* updated costs, but doesnt seem to change the actual cost used 17:50:08 <Wolf01> for the interests i can revert the code, but for running costs, if a train can run for more time it's cost has to increase 17:51:17 <RichK67> but it doesnt run for more time... 30 days is 30 days, even if at one setting it takes 2 real mins, and at another 2 real hours 17:51:33 <anboni> Wolf01, you increased the daylength by increasing the number of ticks per day, right? 17:51:38 <Wolf01> yeah 17:52:12 <anboni> RichK67, true, but in original setting, a train makes maybe 1 trip every month.. with daylength =32, that same train could make maybe 20 trips in that month 17:52:42 <Wolf01> ok, i'll revert the whole economy code, but for the wait time at signals is all good? 17:52:44 <RichK67> yes, AFAIK, that is the whole point of the patch 17:53:26 <anboni> Wolf01, maybe make train costs get calculated per tick instead of per day? kinda to simulate cost per mile traveled.. would probably be a quite big change though 17:54:02 <RichK67> Wolf01: I can commit what you sent, (minus the inflation), but I personally wouldnt use the daylength patch 17:55:10 <Wolf01> you are free to use it or not, i made it customizable :) 17:55:39 <RichK67> yup :) 17:55:58 <Wolf01> some people may want to have a little increase so they can set it to 2x, 4x or 8x... i use 32x 17:56:24 <Wolf01> you use 1x :D 17:56:59 <RichK67> btw - you increase the money cost in SubtractMoneyFromAnyPlayer .... isnt this also used for terraforming, etc. etc. ... ie. not just vehicle related costs? 17:57:25 <Wolf01> uhm.... 17:57:37 <Wolf01> ok, revert the whole economy thing 17:57:46 <Wolf01> and keep only signal wait time 17:58:05 <RichK67> lol - ok... isnt OTTD fun ;) 17:58:35 <RichK67> so its just the train_cmd.c changes, yeah? 17:59:03 <anboni> ok, so i'm browsing through the powereconomy patch.. and these two lines caught my eye.. 17:59:05 <Wolf01> yes, i think that there are only these 17:59:11 <anboni> - uint32 npf_crossing_penalty; /* The penalty for level crossings */ 17:59:11 <anboni> + uint32 npf_crossing_penalty; /* The penalty for level crossings */ 17:59:30 <Wolf01> somebody added a space 17:59:37 <anboni> hmm.. i guess xchat shows the differences better than firefox :) 17:59:52 <anboni> in Fx they're displayed exactly equal 18:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> use a fixed width font :) 18:00:42 <Wolf01> anboni, do you want to help me in another patch? i want to make visible catchement areas for existent stations, so is helpful when placing pieces of station to extend catchement areas 18:00:52 <anboni> i think Fx is using a fixed width font :) 18:02:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> obviously not, otherwise the space had the same width as the letter, so you would see a sificant gap ;) 18:02:30 <anboni> Wolf01, sure, i'd help if i had any idea at all where to start :) 18:02:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> either that, or it does reformatting of spaces in an unkind manner ;) 18:03:07 <anboni> Eddi|zuHause2, i think rather that Fx does something funky with the spaces/tabs :) 18:03:31 <anboni> the font definately isn't proportional 18:03:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> usually, browsers only inflate multiple whitespaces 18:03:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> wrong word 18:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> can't find right word ;) 18:04:39 <anboni> dun matter :) but the guy that built that patch really needs to keep his fingers away from (properly formatted) code :) 18:06:07 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@40.179.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:07:33 *** moebius_ [n=moebius@213.60.238.240] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:07:59 <CIA-3> richk * r5450 /branches/MiniIN/train_cmd.c: [MiniIN]: [Daylength]: Correction to signal wait times to make them dependent on the daylength. 18:08:18 <RichK67> damn - forgot to credit you... sorry Wolf01 18:09:14 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: "<space><tab>" will appear the same as just "<tab>" 18:09:23 <peter1138> nothing to do with fixed or proportional fonts 18:09:26 <Bjarni> RichK67: that's a common and honest mistake 18:09:36 <Bjarni> taking the credits from other people :P 18:09:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, since both are whitespaces 18:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> i said that 18:09:53 <peter1138> ... 18:10:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> but the occasion was +u or +<space>u 18:10:09 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn13-168.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:10:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> nothing with multiple whitespaces 18:10:21 <peter1138> bzzzt 18:10:25 <peter1138> it was +<tab>u 18:10:26 <anboni> yes it was.. it was +<space><tab> and +<tab> 18:10:29 <peter1138> and +<space><tab>u 18:10:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... not what was pasted here 18:10:54 <peter1138> clearly it is 18:10:55 <anboni> (i checked the page source from within Fx, and it did show the problem there).. 18:11:13 * peter1138 mutters at "Tail for Win32" 18:11:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> but then... Konversation probably ate the <tab> 18:12:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> mirc used to show them as black boxes 18:12:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> sorry then ;) 18:12:40 <anboni> speaking of Konverstation... i'm wondering if i should switch from my current gnome setup to kde... 18:14:05 <anboni> i did find one reason a while ago and that's that Nautilus sucks as a filemanager... but today i found out that Konquerer is already installed even though i'm running gnome.. so that's no reason to switch anymore... 18:15:25 <Wolf01> i'm going to play a random game from c&c first decade, see you later ;) 18:15:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i cannot help you there, i have never even seen gnome ;) 18:15:38 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 18:15:39 <MeusH> cu 18:16:10 <anboni> of course, before i do that, i kinda want to figure out if xgl is as easy on kde as it is on gnome with suse :) 18:17:52 <RichK67> bbl 18:17:53 <RichK67> cya 18:18:01 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 18:29:57 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B80017.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 18:42:47 *** egladil [n=egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 18:50:51 *** valhallaway is now known as valhallasw 18:55:27 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:56:47 *** |AciD| [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:04:51 <Spoco> what is wrong with the current nightly build r5448? my perfomance randomly goes down for many seconds, and then starts working again like nothing was wrong 19:06:18 <hylje> i also have minor "spikes" in processing when nightly 19:06:45 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B80017.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:07:03 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 19:07:30 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:08:13 <Spoco> it lags some, when im building a railway 19:08:18 <Spoco> weird 19:08:25 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 19:09:54 <Spoco> its like, suddenly openttd.exe starts using around 70% of cpu, and then when it starts working like normally again, it drops to 10-30 19:10:45 <Vornicus> I had hanging problems in the Mini_IN of a few days ago. 19:16:00 <MeusH> we've been sabotaged o____o 19:17:12 <hylje> not intentially i believe 19:19:55 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd ["icebears... take care of them!"] 19:20:49 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:21:15 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn13-168.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:26:14 *** tokai|odw [n=tokai@p54B83EED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:27:24 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36670.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:03 *** |AciD| [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 19:28:32 *** Ammler1_ [n=chatzill@60.144.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 19:28:33 *** Ammler1_ is now known as Ammler 19:31:00 *** |AciD| is now known as AciD 19:39:29 <MeusH> people people, any ideas on http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24551&start=40 ? 19:39:40 <MeusH> I'm leaving soon and I'd like to know what do you want :) 19:39:41 *** Ammler1 [n=chatzill@60.144.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:39:47 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181083222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:42:29 *** tokai|odw2 [n=tokai@p54B83B2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:43:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:44:31 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:45:20 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:45:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 19:48:50 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: wb 19:48:55 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498F3F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:49:02 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:50:48 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:51:06 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 20:00:03 *** tokai|odw [n=tokai@p54B83EED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:07:06 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 20:11:01 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:56 *** _bitwise [n=_bitwise@ipa97.8.tellas.gr] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 20:17:21 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181083222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 20:18:37 <Bjarni> hey, I left the channel 20:18:47 <Bjarni> I only noticed because I got highlighted ;) 20:19:41 <hylje> ::> 20:27:03 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 20:34:08 *** copperc0re [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:35:30 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:38:00 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:38:06 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:38:49 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:44:03 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2F7A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:56:24 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2DCC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:56:24 *** dp is now known as dp-- 20:59:28 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 21:00:47 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 21:04:00 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 21:04:12 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 21:04:21 <[Shaman]> http://www.illwillpress.com/word.html << Amen. 21:08:52 * Vornicus blings. 21:11:00 * [Shaman] stabs Vornicus 21:16:24 <Wolf01|AFK> 'night all 21:16:30 *** Wolf01|AFK [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 21:17:19 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:19:30 *** Ammler1_ [n=chatzill@60.124.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 21:26:44 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-203-148.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:27:17 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@60.144.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:29:20 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387CFE7.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:30:49 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-2-12.easynet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:34:48 *** Angst [n=Angst@p5494656C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 21:39:21 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:37 *** tokai|odw2 [n=tokai@p54B83B2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:43:12 *** paulsen [i=erik@host-81-191-45-251.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 21:43:33 <paulsen> I want to set up a dedicated server for myself and my friends 21:43:50 <paulsen> my problem is that I cant get the games to last long enough.. time goes by waay to fast 21:44:15 <paulsen> only the first years is dificult when it comes to money, then it gets to easy mode with billions of dollars 21:44:21 <paulsen> can anyone give any advice? 21:44:55 <Sacro> paulsen: MiniIN with my daylength patch 21:48:39 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B60E04.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:48:43 <paulsen> MiniIN is nightly+additional patches? 21:49:01 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83B2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:49:35 *** Ammler1_ [n=chatzill@60.124.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:49:39 <Frostregen> yup 21:53:41 <Sacro> yeah 21:54:21 <MeusH> Sacro: what are developers' opnions on your daylength patch? 21:54:23 <paulsen> 0.4.8-RC1 binaries not compiled yet? 21:54:39 <Sacro> OS? 21:56:04 <paulsen> windows and linux-i686 21:56:16 <Sacro> linux-i686 i think i did... 21:56:23 <paulsen> latest on sourceforge is 0.4.7 21:56:27 <Sacro> was it the .pkg.tar.gz? 21:57:49 <paulsen> huh? 21:58:17 <paulsen> oh. 21:58:23 <paulsen> "It is possible that the files are not available at the moment, SourceForge is acting up, so please be patient." 21:58:30 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 21:59:46 <Sacro> hehe 22:03:00 <MeusH> hey exe_ 22:06:22 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:14:07 *** moebius_ [n=moebius@213.60.238.240] has joined #openttd 22:15:59 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:22:41 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 22:35:29 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Bye"] 22:38:28 <SpComb> how evil 22:38:31 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:38:38 <SpComb> while we are at it 22:39:05 <Sacro> :o 22:39:12 <SpComb> hmm hmm, lots of irssi 22:39:17 <Sacro> :| fsck me 22:39:27 <guru3> irssi is great 22:39:52 <Sacro> guru3: is it? 22:39:59 <guru3> i'm quite fond of it 22:40:09 <guru3> been using it practically since i started irc 22:40:18 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:40:18 <SpComb> it is 22:43:12 <hylje> irssi is teh win 22:43:18 <hylje> and what did you expect, we are on freenode 22:43:22 <guru3> lol 22:43:33 <Sacro> [23:46] * Ping reply from moebius_: 252.38 second(s) 22:43:39 <Sacro> someones gonna timeout soon... 22:43:44 <guru3> lol 22:45:06 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 22:49:00 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 22:49:58 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:50:34 <KUDr> CTCP PONG! 22:50:34 <valhallasw> 00:48 < MeusH> I'm asking about overall aspect of inflation 22:50:34 <valhallasw> 00:48 < MeusH> when does it start? 22:50:39 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 22:50:43 <valhallasw> someone answer him please :P 22:51:14 <Sacro> valhallasw: nah, its only MeusH 22:51:15 <MeusH> does inflation start in 1930, 1950 or on the game start date, configurable in openttd.cfg? 22:51:27 <guru3> all i know is that you can turn it on and off 22:51:34 <guru3> but if you turn it on later in a game 22:51:39 <guru3> inflation only starts from them 22:51:41 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:51:48 <guru3> so i think it's linear or exponential to the ammount of time played 22:51:57 <guru3> played and its been active 22:52:10 <MeusH> allright 22:52:11 <MeusH> thanks 22:52:26 <guru3> no need to ctcp ping the whole channel just for that 22:52:30 <MeusH> I thought it would be nice to modify max loan and base money basing on inflation 22:52:40 <guru3> it does i think 22:52:55 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-2-12.easynet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:53:02 <guru3> at least i know in a game where inflation has been active for a while 22:53:04 <MeusH> currently if I join a server with around 50 years of gameplay, I'll build one trainroute and I'll have enough money to build one cheapest train and one wagon... 22:53:05 <guru3> and has had a noticeable effect 22:53:08 <guru3> your max loan increases 22:53:21 <MeusH> really? 22:53:25 <MeusH> does it happen? 22:53:25 <guru3> perhaps it just doesn't increase enough 22:53:29 <guru3> yes 22:53:33 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 22:53:36 <MeusH> I thought max loan is a constant (Which I want to change) 22:53:50 <guru3> afaik it increases with inflation 22:58:34 <MeusH> yes it does 22:58:39 <MeusH> you're right 22:58:41 <MeusH> I checked it 22:58:52 <MeusH> and I hope it changes well 22:59:15 <Sacro> damnit, the one time i get a horny girl with a webcam and i cant get aMSN to work 22:59:24 <hylje> :b 22:59:28 <Sacro> PLEEEEEEEEEEASE CAN ANYONE RECOMMEND A LINUX MSN CLIENT WITH CAM SUPPORT 22:59:39 <Sacro> ill log the video and upload it 22:59:47 <MeusH> bye 22:59:51 <MeusH> see you in two weeks 23:00:07 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 23:00:11 <MeusH> holidays :P 23:00:16 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:02:04 * Sacro cries 23:02:52 <hylje> :< 23:05:40 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:07:12 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 23:11:52 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-226.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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