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00:00:20 <Bjarni> <Sacro> i got told off for overtaking 3 busses ina row on my test <-- why did you do that? 00:00:30 <Sacro> Bjarni: errrm.... dunno realy 00:01:35 <Gonozal_VIII> shouldn't be a problem if the line of sight is long enough 00:01:48 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: i was a learner, my first time out 00:01:50 <Bjarni> during my test, I had to drive on a small road and then enter a bigger one when there was room.... poor timing. A ferry was unloading all 3 car decks, so I was there for a while 00:02:07 <mikk36> what is bad about bmw driver ? 00:02:16 <Bjarni> they drive 00:02:19 <Sacro> mikk36: round here they tend to be ignorant 00:02:25 <Bjarni> takes up room on the road from the rest of us 00:02:30 <mikk36> heh 00:02:41 <Sacro> im just a 2 wheeled organ doner 00:03:05 * Bjarni would not have Sacro organs 00:03:16 <Sacro> thats nice to know 00:03:25 <mikk36> here they're fine.. except the wannabe street-racers 00:03:25 <Bjarni> I mean... Hull quality 00:03:51 <Eddi|zuHause> for some time, we had one of the busiest roundabouts in europe in our city 00:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause> we had traffic jams like every day 00:04:33 <Eddi|zuHause> the entire day, not just rush hour ;) 00:04:45 <Eddi|zuHause> then they decided they should rebuild the roundabout 00:04:46 <Bjarni> poor planning? 00:04:49 <mikk36> we have a traffic jam of about 1-2km in length every morning 00:04:59 <mikk36> in a city 00:05:05 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm in a low populated area and almost never drive far... so no traffic problems for me 00:05:14 <Eddi|zuHause> so they closed down some roads, and started heavy road working 00:05:32 <Eddi|zuHause> this has been going for like 5 years now 00:05:42 <mikk36> lol 00:05:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: the main problem was that there were Tram lines crossing the roundabout 00:06:12 <mikk36> lol 00:06:15 <mikk36> we have one here too 00:06:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and it was very central, so that everybody crossing the city had to go through it 00:06:31 <mikk36> hehe 00:06:50 <Bjarni> close it for cars and everybody would have to learn how to avoid it 00:06:57 <Bjarni> while the trams could still go there 00:07:14 <Bjarni> in fact ban all cars in the town 00:07:23 <Eddi|zuHause> they meanwhile managed it to put the trams 4m lower ;) 00:07:46 <mikk36> underground ? 00:07:46 * Sacro giggles at the new plans for Hull 00:07:50 <Bjarni> only 4 meters? 00:07:56 <Eddi|zuHause> they renewed most of the roads 00:08:01 <Bjarni> you got some short trams 00:08:07 <Eddi|zuHause> and placed traffic lights on the entrances 00:08:21 <Bjarni> nice 00:08:42 <Bjarni> now they just show red to all roads and nobody will be stuck inside the roundabout 00:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> also, the traffic reduced since they were building roads around the city 00:09:30 <Eddi|zuHause> "road" meaning "autobahn" ;) 00:10:05 <Sacro> http://www.worldsexguide.org/hull.txt.html ooh, interesting 00:10:28 <Gonozal_VIII> driving inside a big city is pure horror^^ 00:10:49 <mikk36> not really :) 00:11:12 <mikk36> it just burns ur nerves very efficiently 00:11:38 <glx> Gonozal_VIII: driving is easy, parking is hard 00:11:38 <mikk36> because u see idiot drivers everywhere 00:11:44 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you just have to know the lesser used routes ;) 00:11:49 <Sacro> glx: parking is easy on a motorbike 00:11:55 <Eddi|zuHause> parking is a lot worse 00:12:09 <Sacro> oh noes...Light Rail for Hull 00:13:11 <Sacro> thats the 2nd most stupid idea 00:13:23 <Eddi|zuHause> because if you find an empty space, it is either "regular" for 1EUR per hour, or it is "irregular", which might cost you between 15 and 250EUR, if you have bad luck ;) 00:13:57 <glx> no a real problem after 20h00 :) 00:14:50 <glx> s/no/not 00:15:03 <Eddi|zuHause> where the 250EUR do not include the additional costs for the "dude, where's my car?" part ;) 00:16:29 * Sacro falls asleep at his keyboard 00:16:50 * Eddi|zuHause thinks it might be a bad idea to sleep with your keyboard 00:16:58 <Sacro> but it loves me 00:17:22 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:17:40 <Gonozal_VIII> those parking issues + train ticket is cheaper than gas = i go everything >20km by train 00:18:17 <glx> train is not good if you plan to go home after 1AM 00:19:17 <Gonozal_VIII> last train arrives around 6 pm here... no much of a problem anyways 00:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause> there is only one bus after 20:00, and you have to preorder that by phone till 18:00 00:19:39 <Sacro> preorder? 00:19:45 <Eddi|zuHause> (i live somewhat outside of the city) 00:19:47 *** GrimRC [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:20:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, they got fed up by sending a bus that noone uses, so they made contracts with a taxi company, and they send a vehicle if someone preorders the bus 00:21:05 <Eddi|zuHause> and they leave out the stops that nobody ordered the bus for 00:21:16 <Sacro> ooh clever 00:21:34 <Sacro> i know not far from me they have stations where you have to flag down passing trains if you want to get on 00:21:38 *** Znuff [bogdan@home01011.mangalia.astral.ro] has joined #openttd 00:21:41 <Znuff> Hello 00:21:41 <Sacro> or tell the guard if you want to get off 00:21:42 <Eddi|zuHause> where "stops" means "villages" 00:21:45 <Sacro> hey Znuff 00:21:51 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: ahh, quite far apart then 00:22:02 <Znuff> Where exactly do I check Local Authorities? I'm kind of new to this 00:22:10 <Sacro> Znuff: click on the city name 00:22:24 * Znuff slaps self 00:22:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i live about 15km from the city, and the scheduled bus route is almost 30 km 00:22:40 <Sacro> Znuff: walk away quietly :P we'll tell noone 00:22:47 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: ouch, thats a long route 00:22:53 <Znuff> holy crap, .000.000 a bribe?! o.O 00:23:11 <Gonozal_VIII> train station of my town is on the other side of our lake... there is absoulutely nothing except mountains, the lake and trees about 5km around that station... a ship takes you from there to the town... sometimes you have to call the ship guys to pick you up 00:23:12 <Sacro> Znuff: its good money 00:23:18 <Eddi|zuHause> well, that late bus combines two routes, so it is longer than the by-day-route 00:23:25 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: fun 00:24:09 <Gonozal_VIII> fun starts if you don't know their number and it's the last train on that day^^ 00:24:23 <Sacro> ooh, nasty 00:25:23 <Eddi|zuHause> the problem with the preordering is, that you have to know at 18:00 that you want to leave at 22:00 00:25:29 <Znuff> wow, talk about growth of economy when you fund something in the city o.O 00:26:04 <Eddi|zuHause> if you decide that you want to stay, the bus driver will get angry because you did not show up 00:26:20 <Sacro> heh 00:26:47 <Znuff> I guess there's a lot more of this game than I thought 00:26:59 <Gonozal_VIII> he will hunt you down and kill you and all of your family then? 00:27:43 <Eddi|zuHause> no, but if you do that too often, he will not wait very long, in case you are just late for the bus 00:29:10 <Sacro> 1:30, night all 00:29:14 <Gonozal_VIII> we don't have to order the bus here but the last "bus" is just a normal taxi that the bus company pays for the last tour 00:29:34 *** Sacro [~ben@213.249.248.213] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:18 <mikk36> ok, night 00:31:32 <Gonozal_VIII> night 00:37:59 <Znuff> Why do planes crash?! 00:38:35 <Eddi|zuHause> high speed planes crash often when they try to land on small airports 00:38:37 <Gonozal_VIII> invalid orders/random at airports/small airport + big plane 00:39:16 <Znuff> so it's random at small airborts and big plane 00:39:28 <Znuff> airpoarts, I mean 00:39:40 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you always have a random chance of crashing 00:39:44 <Gonozal_VIII> planes also crash random at big airports but much less frequent 00:39:55 <Eddi|zuHause> just with fast planes on small airports the chance is increased 00:39:58 <Znuff> Mine crash quite often 00:40:17 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc153.host5.starman.ee] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:40:24 <Znuff> why isn't there a feature like, "replace crashed vehicle"? =/ 00:40:32 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc153.host5.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 00:40:48 <Eddi|zuHause> click on depot, click on "clone vehicle", click on the crashed vehicle 00:41:17 <Eddi|zuHause> (use ctrl+click for shared orders) 00:41:46 <Eddi|zuHause> (otherwise orders are just copied) 00:42:00 <Znuff> yeah, I know that but somtimes I just don't notice that the plane crashes 00:43:00 <Znuff> and it crashed again 00:43:03 <Znuff> 2nd flight -> crashed 00:43:22 <Eddi|zuHause> on a big airport? 00:43:39 <Znuff> small =/ 00:43:44 <Znuff> I'm gonna build a big one 00:43:57 <Eddi|zuHause> don't use small airports for fast planes 00:44:20 <Eddi|zuHause> if you use the standard planes, only the first 3 are for small airports 00:44:22 <Gonozal_VIII> not only supersonic planes need a big airport 00:45:11 <Eddi|zuHause> if you use the planeset (might require nightlies), the planes designed for small airports are marked (S), and for large airports (L) 00:45:50 <Eddi|zuHause> but it provides planes for small airports through the entire game, not just the beginning 00:46:02 <Znuff> I was using an "Bakewell Luckett LB-8" 00:46:10 <Znuff> 200 passangers, 952km/h 00:46:17 <Eddi|zuHause> that is fast ;) 00:46:51 <Znuff> I can't settel for 25passanger :D 00:46:57 <Znuff> settle 00:47:55 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... our city has one of the longest tram lines in the world (31km) 00:48:10 <Znuff> the greatest part is that I made space for a big airport and now the local authorities don't allow me to build anymore 00:48:11 <Znuff> !@#$!#@$ 00:48:23 <Gonozal_VIII> plant some trees 00:48:28 <Eddi|zuHause> increase your rating 00:48:37 <Znuff> uhm :-? 00:48:42 <Gonozal_VIII> they like trees a lot 00:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause> your rating decreases if you do massive terraforming 00:48:52 <Znuff> so that's what trees are all about? 00:48:54 <Eddi|zuHause> and destroy houses 00:49:12 <Eddi|zuHause> planting trees, bribing cities and transporting goods increases your rating 00:50:04 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 00:50:04 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:11 <Gonozal_VIII> if the authorities totaly hate you and you destroy every tree around the town and replant them, your rating should normaly be back to good^^ 00:50:35 <Znuff> how about if I destroy all the buildings in the town? ^_^ 00:50:57 <Znuff> that would teach them 00:51:31 <Gonozal_VIII> it's possible to remove the whole town with replanting the trees over and over 00:53:09 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81C6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:53:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81C6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:53:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 00:53:42 <Znuff> rating good ^_^ 00:53:52 * Znuff builds the airport over the trees 00:58:28 *** Ben_123 [~Ben_Robbi@82.152.99.220] has left #openttd [] 00:59:52 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 00:59:53 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:19 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 01:06:19 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:40 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 01:09:52 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 01:09:54 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176098054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 01:16:32 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:32 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:33 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 01:17:27 <Znuff> >G< is it normal to have 1.318 passangers waiting? =/ 01:17:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 01:18:03 <Eddi|zuHause> if you have not enoug vehicles 01:18:15 <Znuff> o.O 01:18:15 <Eddi|zuHause> +h 01:18:27 <Znuff> my train barely carries 200 person =/ 01:18:42 <Eddi|zuHause> then send 3 trains ;) 01:19:08 <Znuff> I can't =/ 01:19:17 <Znuff> I haven't got the hang of the signals, yet 01:19:22 <Eddi|zuHause> a decent short range bus service can help, too 01:19:40 <Znuff> I just can't make 2 trains run on 2 paralel lines from the same depot =/ 01:20:07 <Eddi|zuHause> but it might make matters worse, because cities grow like mad ;) 01:20:27 <Eddi|zuHause> there are articles on signals in the wiki 01:21:25 <Eddi|zuHause> the easiest way to get lots of passenger trains on the same route is to make a circle line 01:21:35 <Eddi|zuHause> place a lot of (1-way) signals 01:21:43 <Eddi|zuHause> and let the trains go after each other 01:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> place at least one signal before and after each station 01:22:24 <Znuff> argh, I can't do that =/ 01:22:26 <Eddi|zuHause> and some in between on long routes 01:22:53 <Znuff> I placed the station next to other lines and to a factory 01:23:44 <Znuff> uh, why does it sometime take SO much time loading/unloading? 01:24:02 <Znuff> even if the passager cars are full 01:24:29 <Eddi|zuHause> loading and unloading takes longer if lots of goods are moved 01:24:44 <Eddi|zuHause> and especially very long if the train does not fit in the station 01:24:53 <Znuff> so that's it =/ 01:25:25 <Eddi|zuHause> every wagon outside the station takes like 10 times longer to load 01:25:36 * Znuff counts the wagons 01:25:38 <Znuff> :bad 01:25:49 <Eddi|zuHause> 2 wagons fit in one tile 01:26:01 <Eddi|zuHause> the depot shows the length of the train 01:33:47 *** Znuffy [bogdan@home01011.mangalia.astral.ro] has joined #openttd 01:33:47 *** Znuff [bogdan@home01011.mangalia.astral.ro] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:58 <Znuffy> holy crap, why isn't there an undo? 01:36:32 <Eddi|zuHause> load the autosave 01:37:51 <Eddi|zuHause> take a looka at this: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Regenswald%20Transport,%209.%20Mai%202005.png 01:38:06 <Eddi|zuHause> it has a "little" signalling ;) 01:40:28 <Eddi|zuHause> take a looka at this: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Regenswald%20Transport,%2015.%20Mai%202005.sav if you want to see it in action (2MB) you need the nightly build and the DBSetXL grf file to load it properly, though 01:41:32 <Eddi|zuHause> it might not be the most efficient network you can find out there 01:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> but it handles the trains it currently has quite well 01:43:08 <Znuffy> what's a grf? =/ 01:44:05 <Eddi|zuHause> newgrf files are graphic replacements 01:46:00 <Znuffy> Oh 01:46:17 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.ttdpatch.net/newgrf.html 01:46:31 <Eddi|zuHause> some of them also work in openttd 01:46:50 <Eddi|zuHause> there's an article on the wiki on how to use them 01:46:56 <Znuffy> what's the difference between ttdpatch and openttd? 01:47:08 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of things ;) 01:47:14 <Znuffy> =/ 01:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause> the main difference is that ttdpatch modifies the original .exe file 01:47:50 <Znuffy> oh 01:47:54 <Eddi|zuHause> while openttd is a complete rewrite, and creates its own exe file 01:48:28 <Eddi|zuHause> then both have introduced some new features 01:48:51 <Eddi|zuHause> not all of which are supported by the "other" side 01:49:02 <Znuffy> I see 01:49:06 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. openttd has improved airports 01:49:25 <Eddi|zuHause> while ttdpatch has a lot more newgrf features 01:49:46 <Eddi|zuHause> (new industries, etc.) 01:52:08 <Znuffy> I like Open :P 01:52:29 <Znuffy> what year is maglev available? 01:52:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea 01:52:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i have not played with the original set in years 01:53:03 <Znuffy> o.O 01:53:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and original TT had no maglev 01:53:31 <Eddi|zuHause> TT without D 02:04:01 <Znuffy> .000 proffit/train 02:04:05 <Znuffy> that's impressive for me! :D 02:08:45 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09:32 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 02:09:40 <CIA-2> belugas * r6451 /branches/XTDwidget/ (aircraft_gui.c roadveh_gui.c ship_gui.c train_gui.c): 02:09:40 <CIA-2> [XTDwidget] -Fix: the hidden states were not completely tested for cloning/go to hangar 02:09:40 <CIA-2> Both tests were necessary, since the original code was checking for both at once too. 02:13:19 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 02:13:20 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:14:25 <Znuffy> eeeek, I've got "station too spread out" message! :( 02:17:33 <CIA-2> belugas * r6452 /branches/XTDwidget/ (32 files in 5 dirs): [XTDwidget] -Synch with trunk r6422:r6451 02:17:36 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22:19 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 02:33:47 <CIA-2> belugas * r6453 /trunk/ (currency.c currency.h lang/english.txt settings.c): -Feature: FS#305 Turkish currency (jnmbk) 02:33:58 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:38:07 *** coronel [andreabl@login1.powertech.no] has quit [Server closed connection] 02:38:07 *** coronel_ [andreabl@login1.powertech.no] has joined #openttd 02:47:11 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:52:04 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 02:52:20 <CIA-2> belugas * r6454 /trunk/ (currency.c currency.h newgrf.c strings.c): 02:52:20 <CIA-2> -Fix(r6108) : Allow custom currency to display both prefix and suffix 02:52:20 <CIA-2> -Codechange : Divide rate of conversion from grf by 1000, to match OTTD internal system 02:57:26 <Znuffy> what else beside planting trees can you do to improve your rating? 03:01:21 <Belugas_Gone> bribing :) 03:08:30 <Belugas_Gone> supplying frequent bus/train station visit helps too... 03:13:35 <Znuffy> uh, 03:13:46 <Znuffy> why is my train having a red light near it? 03:13:55 <Znuffy> and just doesn't want to start o.O 03:14:46 <Znuffy> oh, it shares a station with another train 03:16:51 <Znuffy> wow, stop signs rule! :D 03:46:15 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 03:50:21 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 04:02:46 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:16:00 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 04:23:09 *** JonA [~jonathan@palmyra.fatbeast.co.uk] has quit [Server closed connection] 04:23:10 *** JonA [~jonathan@palmyra.fatbeast.co.uk] has joined #openttd 04:28:34 <mikk36> mornin' 04:29:11 <Torm> afternoon 04:38:46 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 04:41:15 <mikk36> k, off to work :) 04:56:29 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:00:20 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:01:09 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Server closed connection] 05:01:19 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 05:03:04 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Sleeeep!] 05:07:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B755FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:09:48 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:12:21 *** zcram [~zcram@88-196-155-96-wifi.est.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 05:13:05 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:15:22 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:15:47 *** Guest56 [Gono@N869P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:20:23 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 05:20:52 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N924P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:24:06 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 05:34:41 *** TronBSD is now known as Tron 05:58:07 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-145-18.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 06:12:14 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-145-18.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12:32 *** Vurn [~v9@ts1-a8.Surgut.dial.rol.ru] has joined #openttd 06:13:51 *** Vurn [~v9@ts1-a8.Surgut.dial.rol.ru] has left #openttd [] 06:14:56 *** Vurn [~v9@ts1-a8.Surgut.dial.rol.ru] has joined #openttd 06:17:27 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:17:53 *** Vurn [~v9@ts1-a8.Surgut.dial.rol.ru] has left #openttd [] 06:36:11 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 06:37:41 <Znuffy> how do you convert between normal rail and monorail? 06:40:59 <mikk36> using the convert button 06:41:04 <mikk36> second from the right 06:41:23 <mikk36> just select the rail type from top and then the "convert to" button 06:43:38 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:55:18 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 06:55:53 <Znuffy> mikk36, figured that out, but I actually wanted to ask about the train 06:56:04 <Znuffy> can't you just automagically convert the train too? =/ 06:56:14 <Znuffy> it's a pain to sell the train and re-buy it again 06:56:18 <mikk36> no 06:56:19 <Zaviori> Yea :/ 06:56:26 <Zaviori> Its pain, thats why I dont upgradfe. 06:56:56 <Znuffy> hell I won't upgrade that many trains o.O 06:57:22 <Znuffy> if at least a combination between the two, like maglev + monoral... 06:57:31 <Znuffy> something like normal+mono 06:57:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C722.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:57:56 <mikk36> how many ? 06:59:05 <Znuffy> 24 =/ 06:59:20 <Znuffy> <- n00b 07:00:16 <Znuffy> what year is maglev available? 07:03:05 *** Netsplit helium.oftc.net <-> neutron.oftc.net quits: ln-, Jezral, JonA 07:03:24 *** Netsplit over, joins: JonA, Jezral, ln- 07:06:12 <Zaviori> 2020 something? 07:06:53 <Znuffy> I guess I can wait 20 years 07:12:46 *** TinoDidri [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 07:12:46 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12:49 *** TinoDidri is now known as Jezral 07:19:57 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2FED7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:24:09 <mikk36> only 24 ? 07:24:11 <mikk36> zomg 07:24:22 <mikk36> and i thought that 500 is a lot 07:26:54 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2E747.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41:45 *** Trenskow^ [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 07:41:49 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:20 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C722.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:48:55 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C722.versanet.de] has quit [] 07:57:24 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:59:44 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 07:59:48 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F9E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:00:20 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 08:14:54 *** Pyropuschel [~gina@p548370BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:20:05 *** Pogopuschel [~gina@p54836E60.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:22:12 <Znuffy> well I'm playin' on 128x128 08:22:17 <Znuffy> I can't handle more at the time :D 08:24:58 <peter1138> hmm 08:25:28 <peter1138> i like playing 128x128, low towns & industries, and interest/costs set to high 08:25:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81C6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:26:04 <mikk36> :/ 08:26:32 <mikk36> i put like... 350 big trains onto 256x256 map 08:26:44 <mikk36> and only 1/2 was connected 08:28:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82C33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:28:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 08:29:10 *** Znuffy [bogdan@home01011.mangalia.astral.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:31:32 <peter1138> heh 08:31:50 <peter1138> i've connected everything with less than that on 256x256 08:31:52 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41:15 *** Nigel [~nigel@202-154-145-18.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 08:43:25 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 08:47:17 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F9E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:49:35 *** WhiteHand [lstevens@203.51.65.122] has joined #openttd 08:50:02 <WhiteHand> is peter1138 in? 08:51:53 *** Vurn [~v9@ts1-a223.Surgut.dial.rol.ru] has joined #openttd 08:57:37 *** Trenskow^ [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:07 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081CAF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:13:13 <AsterixMG> hi @all 09:14:20 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 09:14:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 09:14:44 <peter1138> lord vater 09:16:56 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:17:05 *** Sacro [~ben@213.249.248.213] has joined #openttd 09:21:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:22:31 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3E621.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:23:58 <WhiteHand> where's tobin when you need him 09:24:13 <Sacro> no idea 09:24:21 <peter1138> !seen tobin 09:24:21 <_42_> peter1138, Tobin (~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au) was last seen quitting #openttd 5 hours 34 minutes ago (15.09. 03:50) stating "Quit: Tobin" after spending 3 hours 32 minutes there. 09:28:42 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D2C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:29:36 *** Tron [teAZLvoH@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 09:32:53 <WhiteHand> anyone here up for hosting me and Raichase a game of OTTD? 09:33:20 <peter1138> i can host 09:33:26 <WhiteHand> please? 09:33:29 <WhiteHand> with miniin? 09:33:32 * Sacro considers playing 09:33:58 <WhiteHand> Sacro, you'll need an ausset GRF 09:34:03 <WhiteHand> which you can only get from me. 09:34:04 <WhiteHand> :p 09:34:57 <AsterixMG> aus = austria or australia? :) 09:35:29 <WhiteHand> australia 09:36:11 <WhiteHand> peter, shall I send you the GRFs we want? 09:36:31 <Sacro> WhiteHand: ah right 09:36:34 <AsterixMG> btw, any dev willing ti give me some comments on this: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/342 ? (the last attachment that is) 09:36:37 <peter1138> yes, and the config 09:36:44 <WhiteHand> config... hmm 09:37:13 <peter1138> else it'll be a plain, never before used miniin config 09:39:08 *** e1ko [~e1ko@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 09:41:10 <WhiteHand> peter1138, do you know where to get MB's newstations, and Pikka's HOVs and Viaduct? 09:41:17 <WhiteHand> what's your email? 09:41:33 <peter1138> yes 09:41:37 <peter1138> peter@fuzzle.org 09:41:53 <WhiteHand> well, they will be required 09:43:38 <peter1138> -rw-r--r-- 1 peter peter 22477 2006-01-18 20:04 pb_hovs_bus.grf 09:43:42 <peter1138> that the right version? 09:43:53 <Sacro> WhiteHand: HOVS and viaduct are on pikkabirds site 09:44:00 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 09:46:35 <WhiteHand> I am aware of this 09:46:44 <WhiteHand> peter, I'm emailing the versions I have 09:47:10 <peter1138> ok 09:47:25 <peter1138> bah, it needs auto-grf downloading 09:47:35 <peter1138> but alas, that'll fuck with the licenses of stuff 09:49:15 <WhiteHand> peter, on it's way 09:49:23 <WhiteHand> licences? 09:49:28 <WhiteHand> auto-grf loading? 09:49:35 <WhiteHand> never had that problem before 09:49:53 <WhiteHand> Aegir ran a server using all of the filse I'm sending with no problems whatsoever 09:51:39 <peter1138> hmm? 09:51:49 <peter1138> no, i mean downloading all the right files from the server to the clients 09:51:57 <WhiteHand> oh 09:52:05 <WhiteHand> well, I'm just emailing everyone the pack 09:52:28 <WhiteHand> actually, may want to change the server name 09:52:34 <WhiteHand> may still be 'Aegir's Server' 09:52:44 <WhiteHand> call it Ausset Server or something similar 09:52:51 <WhiteHand> and password as it is in the file 09:52:58 <WhiteHand> (assuming there is a password on in that file) 09:53:13 <WhiteHand> anyway, it's sent 09:55:30 <peter1138> yup 10:00:43 <WhiteHand> how goes it, peter? 10:00:54 <peter1138> it's started 10:01:56 <WhiteHand> cool 10:02:01 <WhiteHand> what's the password 10:02:03 <WhiteHand> message it to meh 10:02:35 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F9E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:08:57 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:09:38 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:09:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:11:07 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:16:03 *** Vurn [~v9@ts1-a223.Surgut.dial.rol.ru] has left #openttd [] 10:17:08 <WhiteHand> peter, cfg away 10:21:01 * WhiteHand highlights peter1138 10:25:22 <WhiteHand> !summon peter1138 10:25:38 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:27:14 <Gonozal_VIII> try "summon_obj peter1138" ;-) 10:29:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7660F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:32:23 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 10:38:23 *** zcram [~zcram@88-196-155-96-wifi.est.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.] 10:48:21 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76BAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7660F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:56:16 *** zcram [~zcram@88-196-155-96-wifi.est.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 10:59:34 <Darkvater> hmm, I seem to have been disc'd 11:01:31 <Sacro> i really fancy some bacon about now 11:02:48 <Darkvater> mhmm baacon 11:04:34 <Sacro> yes mmmmm 11:25:50 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 11:27:31 <peter1138> baconated bacon 11:28:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> <AsterixMG> aus = austria or australia? :) <- austria = AUT 11:29:05 <AsterixMG> Eddi|zuHause2, with austrians you never know ;) 11:29:11 <WhiteHand> lol 11:30:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> i know maybe a handful of austrians ;) 11:36:18 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 11:36:38 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176116226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:41:05 *** zcram [~zcram@88-196-155-96-wifi.est.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.] 11:41:25 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:36 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:45:05 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmmm? 11:45:35 <Gonozal_VIII> what was that about austrians? 11:46:12 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:46:15 <Sacro> they sing too much 11:46:54 <Gonozal_VIII> ? :S 11:47:07 * Sacro hæts the sounds of music 11:47:19 <Sacro> s/ds/d/ 11:49:17 * Eddi|zuHause2 plays Bryan Adams - (Everything I Do) I Do It For You (aus "Robin Hood - König der Diebe") at Sacro 11:52:42 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C722.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:51 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:40 *** WhiteHand [lstevens@203.51.65.122] has quit [Quit: http://rp.munki.org/] 12:08:21 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F9E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:52 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-096-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:10:40 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 12:14:10 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 12:16:42 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-170-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:02 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:18:43 *** e1ko [~e1ko@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.4/2006072904]] 12:21:40 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:27:05 <CIA-2> peter1138 * r6455 /trunk/ (9 files in 2 dirs): 12:27:05 <CIA-2> - Feature: Add 2cc (two company colours) livery schemes. This replaces the 12:27:05 <CIA-2> original colour selection window and bumps the saveload version. Liveries are 12:27:05 <CIA-2> supported for all vehicles, not just those with 2cc support. Thanks to lakie for 12:27:05 <CIA-2> GUI inspiration. 12:27:22 <Sacro> :o 12:27:27 <Sacro> Born_Acorn!!! 12:27:31 <peter1138> no 12:27:33 <peter1138> it's not news hounds 12:27:44 <Sacro> 2cc support! 12:35:20 * Maedhros cheers 12:35:27 <Maedhros> peter1138++ 12:38:35 <Sacro> Maedhros: that was yesterday 12:38:36 <Sacro> hes back to normal now 12:38:40 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:38:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:40:08 <Brianetta> whee (: 12:40:18 <Brianetta> peter1138: You're redecremented 12:40:23 <Born_Acorn> I've arrived! 12:40:39 <Born_Acorn> I sawe the SVN digest! 2cc wooooo! 12:42:15 * Prof_Frink offers peter1138 a cookie 12:44:18 <peter1138> news hounds! 12:44:52 <Born_Acorn> :o 12:46:17 <Born_Acorn> That's must be the only feature left to fully enjoy UKRS. 12:46:25 <Sacro> Brianetta: new nightly server!!! 2cc!!! 12:46:53 <Sacro> Born_Acorn! newsounds! 12:47:05 <Born_Acorn> newsounds? where? 12:47:08 * Born_Acorn must know! 12:47:09 <Sacro> hmm, the Sprinter DMU doesnt respect my colourscheme 12:47:30 <peter1138> yeah, the stock vehicles don't have the MU flag 12:47:56 <Sacro> can the passenger carridges not have seperate colour schemes for different engines? 12:48:23 <Sacro> cos they should be cream for steam engines, but id like them in GNER (blue with red) on the HSTs 12:48:56 <Born_Acorn> Cream Steam? 12:49:17 <Sacro> yes, didnt LNER have green engines with cream carridges 12:49:44 <peter1138> carriages :) 12:49:54 <peter1138> it would be possible 12:49:54 <Born_Acorn> cardigages! 12:50:07 <peter1138> hmm 12:50:10 <Sacro> peter1138: i know, never could get that word right 12:50:45 <peter1138> so separate carriage colours for steam, diesel & electric? 12:50:58 <peter1138> freight stays the same 12:51:30 <peter1138> i can do that, but don't keep a non-2cc save cos i don't want to do another bump for it 12:52:01 <peter1138> errr 12:52:03 <peter1138> -don't 12:52:57 <Sacro> peter1138: id like to have different schemes for different eras 12:53:04 <Brianetta> Cream cabbages on your strainer 12:53:22 <Sacro> and have the 4-6-2 permanantly wedged to blue 12:53:28 <Brianetta> I don't go for emulating post-privatisation UK rail companies 12:53:37 <Brianetta> They aren't exactly full of history 12:55:09 <Sacro> i think the HST and the class 92 look good in GNER colours (dark blue + red) 12:56:04 <Maedhros> i liked the original First Great Western colours - green and gold 12:56:22 <Maedhros> the newer purple colour scheme looks a bit rubbish though 12:57:20 <peter1138> Sacro: i'm not limiting it to engine models :P 12:57:23 <Sacro> im one of these young'ens 12:57:37 <Sacro> peter1138: just steam, diesel and electric then 12:57:49 <peter1138> and ow 12:57:56 <Sacro> you ok? 12:58:07 <peter1138> i managed to stab my ankle with the end of a rackmount rail kit 12:58:14 <Sacro> ouch, nasty 12:58:32 <Born_Acorn> ow. 12:58:40 <peter1138> technically i should fill in the accident book... 12:58:43 <hylje> :o 12:59:12 <Sacro> peter1138: yes, but do you want people in the future to read about it 12:59:23 <peter1138> quite 12:59:24 <peter1138> :P 12:59:48 <roboboy> gnight 13:00:01 *** roboboy is now known as robobed 13:00:14 * robobed folds out from the cupboard 13:00:24 * Sacro folds robobed into the cupboard 13:00:36 * robobed folds back out 13:00:58 * robobed locks into that possition 13:00:59 * hylje folds robobed's proteins 13:01:23 <Sacro> oh aye 13:04:47 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:05:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... one weekend away... i am afraid my HDD will overflow... 13:06:04 <hylje> hdd overflow 13:06:09 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 13:07:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have scheduled like 14h of TV recording 13:08:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> but currently i have only like 10GB free... 13:08:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> 1h is around 1.5GB 13:08:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> MPEG-2 stream 13:08:57 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 13:11:09 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:11:14 <Belugas> hello 13:15:12 <Maedhros> hi Belugas 13:16:00 *** Guest56 [Gono@N817P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:20:16 <Belugas> hello Maedhros :) 13:20:42 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N869P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:49 *** YogSothoth [~john@lns-bzn-27-82-248-44-102.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:24:20 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 13:25:03 <YogSothoth> Hi 13:25:43 <YogSothoth> While playing in the toy world, where the fizzy drinks are supposed to go? 13:25:59 <hylje> toy world? 13:27:21 <hylje> oh god 13:27:26 <hylje> it was worse than i remembered 13:27:32 <Born_Acorn> Yeah. Toyland, as opposed to Temperate, Arctic and Tropical. 13:28:33 <hylje> yes 13:29:35 <YogSothoth> hylje, yes this is hard to sustain :-) but I wanted to try all worlds 13:29:51 <YogSothoth> anyway, noone knows? 13:30:35 <hylje> check the towns 13:33:12 <peter1138> Sacro: so, like, http://fuzzle.org/o/2cc7.png 13:33:35 <Sacro> peter1138: thats spot on! 13:34:24 *** Guest56 [Gono@N952P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:34:29 <Sacro> do MU's automagically change the passenger carriage colours? 13:34:40 <peter1138> yeah 13:34:46 <Sacro> thats good then 13:34:59 <Sacro> that looks perfect does that 13:35:30 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 13:35:31 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 13:38:45 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:54 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-83-100-224-155.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:40:32 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N817P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:42:44 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 13:43:24 *** Sacro [~ben@213.249.248.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:43:32 <peter1138> Sacro_: http://fuzzle.org/o/2cc8.png 13:43:52 <peter1138> (horrible colours, but hey...) 13:44:05 <Sacro_> peter1138: whoo, thats nice 13:44:30 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 13:44:57 <Sacro> hmm, trunk doesnt support airplane livery refits 13:47:08 <XeryusTC> peter1138: you're putting 2cc support in the trunk? 13:47:48 <Sacro> XeryusTC: *cough* svn log :p 13:47:52 <Sacro> !svn 13:48:05 <peter1138> Sacro: does it support any livery refit? 13:48:18 <Sacro> peter1138: not that ive found 13:48:20 <glx> !openttd commit 13:48:22 <_42_> Commit by peter1138 :: r6455 /trunk/ (10 files) (2006-09-15 12:27:00 UTC) 13:48:23 <peter1138> good 13:48:24 <_42_> - Feature: Add 2cc (two company colours) livery schemes. This replaces the original colour selection window and bumps the saveload version. Liveries are supported for all vehicles, not just those with 2cc support. Thanks to lakie for GUI inspiration. 13:48:25 <Sacro> i only have Planeset that does 13:48:35 <Sacro> peter1138: though MiniIN has mart3p's patch 13:48:36 <XeryusTC> Sacro: i only read the log when i hapen to look here while some bot spams it :P 13:48:38 <peter1138> cos i've not committed my tidied up version of the patch 13:49:08 <Sacro> XeryusTC: thats when i noticed it, did an svn up && make instantly! 13:49:26 <XeryusTC> im barely looking around here 13:49:33 <XeryusTC> and if i do i dont speak too much :P 13:49:49 <Sacro> XeryusTC: heh, ive noticed 13:50:21 <XeryusTC> :) 13:51:16 <Gonozal_VIII> what does a brake van do ingame? 13:51:23 <XeryusTC> nothing 13:51:24 <Sacro> anywhoo, going out, be back later 13:51:26 <XeryusTC> just cosmeting 13:51:31 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: restricts your train to 65mh 13:51:32 <Gonozal_VIII> ah.. 13:51:33 <Sacro> *mph 13:51:44 <Sacro> it will be used for realistic deceleration when i code it :p 13:51:47 <XeryusTC> Sacro: not if you play without speed limits ;) 13:51:53 <Sacro> XeryusTC: thats no fun 13:52:00 <Sacro> gtg 13:52:07 <XeryusTC> speed limits arent fun when you build coop like networks :P 13:52:47 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-224-155.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:18 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:44 <Gonozal_VIII> something is broken now :-/ 13:57:21 <hylje> i vote for adding advanced town handling patch to trunk 13:57:41 <hylje> gives some difficulty when demolishing large cities isnt so easy 13:58:26 <Gonozal_VIII> was in a multiplayer game when my inet reconnected... now i can't join the game anymore without desyncing after a few seconds 14:01:24 <Gonozal_VIII> any ideas how to fix it? 14:01:49 <glx> restart the server and reload the game 14:02:09 <Gonozal_VIII> he already did that 14:03:06 <Gonozal_VIII> and not just once.. 14:06:23 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't work anymore :-/ 14:12:51 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:19:39 <Born_Acorn> There's no Oil Refineries on any TGP map I generate. Why not? 14:24:18 <peter1138> i noticed that 14:24:31 <peter1138> i'm guessing it's because the edges aren't flat enough 14:24:59 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-83-115.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 14:25:50 <Born_Acorn> There's tonnes of Oil Wells though. Just no Refineries. 14:26:00 <peter1138> yup 14:26:02 <Born_Acorn> (this is on the very flat setting) 14:26:11 <peter1138> yup 14:26:18 <Born_Acorn> Ice Cream is tasty. 14:26:22 <peter1138> yup 14:26:34 <Born_Acorn> newsounds! 14:26:41 <peter1138> yup 14:26:42 <pumpkin> peter1138: you sound like a chatbot. 14:26:53 <peter1138> yup 14:28:41 <Zaviori> True dat 14:30:22 <hylje> no, hes running perl 14:31:41 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:34:52 <glx> Born_Acorn: increase "Max distance from edge for Oil Refineries" in construction settings 14:35:07 <Born_Acorn> I have. 14:35:09 <Born_Acorn> To the max 14:35:12 <Born_Acorn> but nothing. 14:35:17 <Born_Acorn> Not one Oil Refinery 14:35:38 <peter1138> what settings? 14:36:48 <Prof_Frink> yup 14:37:57 <Born_Acorn> hmm. strange. 14:38:08 <Born_Acorn> I've generated another map and there are some now 14:38:27 <Born_Acorn> Why are any changed patch settings dropped when "Abandon Game" is chosen? 14:39:39 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 14:42:59 *** grimrc [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:44:04 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Sea 14:48:45 <peter1138> to annoy you 14:54:52 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn: recompile with --dont-annoy-bornacorn to fix it 14:56:04 <hylje> Born_Acorn: i think that the ingame patch settings affect the current settings, saved with the map 14:56:15 <hylje> Born_Acorn: and the menu settings give defaults 14:59:49 *** Znuff [bogdan@home01011.mangalia.astral.ro] has joined #openttd 14:59:51 <Znuff> Hello again 15:00:04 <Znuff> Is there any way to tell a train not to stop in a station? 15:01:01 <glx> Znuff: "non-stop handling" patch setting or non-stop order (your choice :) ) 15:01:53 <Znuff> so that's what non-stop is for :) 15:02:50 <peter1138> who'da thought what "non-stop" meant ;p 15:04:06 <Znuff> I was like "non-stop" ?! 24h or what?! 15:05:39 <pumpkin> what can cause the speed in network play to drop ? iŽm connect to a 0.4.8 server running .. uhm crawling. a 120km/h train takes 20 seconds to cross 1 title. 15:09:35 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:15:41 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc11.host4.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 15:22:12 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:20 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc153.host5.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:41 <Znuff> can signals slow down trains? 15:27:19 <peter1138> sort of 15:27:27 <glx> yes if they can run at full speed between 2 red signals 15:27:28 <Noldo> what kind of can is this? 15:27:43 <glx> *can't :) 15:28:09 <Znuff> so... yes or no? 15:28:17 <Znuff> I mean I've got many signals on some tracks 15:28:23 <Znuff> most of them probably are useless 15:30:05 <Znuff> uh, what are locks for?! 15:31:00 <glx> to join canals on different levels 15:32:16 <Znuff> I see 15:33:13 <Born_Acorn> It's all on the Wiki. 15:33:24 <Born_Acorn> *all 15:33:28 <grimrc> Google images for canal locks 15:33:30 <Born_Acorn> (for emphasis) 15:34:36 <Znuff> sorry, not a native english speaker 15:34:37 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-83-115.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:34:51 <Znuff> or more like: heck, I know nothing about ships 15:34:52 <Znuff> :-) 15:35:17 <grimrc> exactly; look one up if you're interested 15:35:29 <grimrc> we've got old canals in Manchester, England 15:35:38 <grimrc> (where I live) 15:38:26 <Znuff> you can raise land near oil rigs? o.O 15:44:02 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:28 *** mikk36[EST] is now known as mikk36 15:45:44 <mikk36> who here could write a script for xchat ? 15:46:00 <mikk36> just a small one 15:46:07 <mikk36> to change nick and nickserv auth 15:46:12 <grimrc> the people in #xchat enjoy writing them; someone wrote a channel whois one for me 15:46:25 <mikk36> in what server ? 15:46:28 <grimrc> I wasn't asking them to; I just wanted to know if there was a command 15:46:31 <Znuff> why do ships pass trough each other? o.O 15:46:38 <Znuff> mikk36, freenode perhaps? 15:46:40 <grimrc> oh must be freenode 15:46:46 <mikk36> Znuff, because there is no collision detection for them ? 15:47:04 <Znuff> strange 15:47:05 <grimrc> Znuff: you've obviously never been to sea 15:47:17 <grimrc> (joking) 15:47:18 <Znuff> looks like ghost ships :-) 15:47:28 <Znuff> grimrc, and yet I live at the seaside... =/ 15:47:32 <grimrc> heh cool 15:48:23 <grimrc> is anyone planning to improve shipping? 15:49:04 <Znuff> damn, 300.000liters of oil and I get only k? =/ 15:50:26 <grimrc> well, you don't own the goods 15:51:22 <Born_Acorn> You only get the money for transporting them. 15:52:04 <grimrc> pirate shipping hasn't been added yet 15:53:30 <Znuff> now that would be a feature 15:53:36 <Brianetta> I think a key router at my ISP has failed 15:53:44 <Brianetta> At 4:30pm on a Friday afternoon 15:53:48 <Brianetta> this is not good 15:54:01 <glx> will be fixed on monday :) 15:54:02 <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Company_Colours 15:54:03 <Born_Acorn> yay 15:54:31 <Brianetta> glx: It had better be fixed by 5 15:54:40 <Brianetta> I was in the middle of something 16:02:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:14 * Born_Acorn releases the hounds on peter1138 16:03:20 <Born_Acorn> the news hounds, that is! 16:04:04 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:04:14 *** gw280 [authdenied@vm.gwright.org.uk] has joined #openttd 16:04:21 <gw280> anyone tried to run openttd on a 3200x1200 xinerama setup? 16:04:31 <gw280> it appears to segfault when attempting to go into fullscreen mode 16:07:32 <hylje> work around taht by running the thing in a window 16:08:59 <Znuff> eeeek 16:09:06 <Znuff> I just crashed 2 trains =( 16:09:12 <hylje> hah 16:09:25 <Znuff> isn't there a way to clean up faster?! 16:09:37 <glx> no 16:09:52 * Znuff waits 16:10:09 <glx> never let trains run in the place your are changing signaling 16:11:11 <Znuff> learning it the hard way... 16:11:19 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:11:32 <Znuff> train signaling is too complicated =/ 16:13:58 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:21:06 <hylje> its more complicated than in most commercial train simus 16:21:14 <hylje> but we plan on making it even better 16:21:18 <hylje> (read: compicated) 16:21:21 <Noldo> :) 16:22:54 <ln-> gw280: i've tried 2048x768 which worked ok. 16:23:19 <gw280> ln-: odd. 16:24:18 <ln-> i don't think OTTD by default supports resolutions as high as 3200. you need to change some constant in the source and recompile. 16:30:47 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:34:33 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 16:35:44 <Znuff> ship depots are strange... how come you can build them just in the middle of the sea? =/ 16:35:59 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:36:11 <grimrc> heh - fair point 16:41:28 *** Tron [teAZLvoH@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:42:29 <grimrc> canals are pointless atm 16:42:42 <grimrc> (known problem) 16:42:49 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:10 <peter1138> because ship depots are built on water 16:47:15 <peter1138> and the middle of the sea is... water 16:47:45 <ln-> when do we get dragons to the edges of the map? 16:48:09 <hylje> dragons? i'd opt for a more elegant waterfall 16:48:28 <ln-> well aren't dragons living at the edge of the world? 16:48:51 <Noldo> no, they just work there 16:49:15 <ln-> who is providing public transportation for them? 16:49:32 <Noldo> don't they have wings? 16:49:58 <hylje> that would be liek walking to work 16:50:09 <ln-> people have legs but still use public transportation... 16:50:51 <hylje> laziness 16:51:01 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-224-155.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:52:04 <grimrc> we could have dragons vs helicopters, like in that film 16:52:20 <hylje> a disaster where a dragon eats a random helicopter 16:52:20 <peter1138> hmm, skips are a bit expensive 16:52:30 *** scia_ is now known as scia 16:52:31 <hylje> ships are expensive, slow and their pathfinding sucks 16:52:44 <peter1138> yeah, but hiring a skip costs more 16:52:53 <grimrc> they make decent profits? 16:53:04 <peter1138> minimum of 170 quid so far 16:53:07 <grimrc> well, I don't know about after ship cost is taken in to account 16:57:09 <Znuff> what's a skip?! 16:57:22 <Znuff> skiper as in captain?! 16:58:07 <Sacro> Znuff: http://homepages.wyenet.co.uk/gdixon/skip.jpg 16:59:26 <Znuff> where do I buy myself one? 17:00:16 <Brianetta> Normally one is rented 17:00:16 <Znuff> wait 17:00:16 <Znuff> game or rl? 17:00:16 * Sacro sighs 17:00:16 <Znuff> o.O 17:00:16 * Sacro slaps Znuff with the haddock of reality 17:00:16 <Znuff> well you were talking about ships and skips 17:00:54 <Sacro> it was hylje that mentioned ships 17:01:11 <hylje> oops 17:01:18 <hylje> the keys are liek next to each other 17:01:20 <hylje> :( 17:01:33 <Sacro> hylje: does that affect you when reading> 17:02:02 <hylje> reading? writing more like 17:02:26 <Znuff> \= 17:02:45 <Znuff> wow, maglev available ^_^ 17:03:12 <Sacro> !commit 17:03:25 <Sacro> bah 17:03:28 <Sacro> !svn commit 17:03:35 <Born_Acorn> Commit? Sacro is getting married! 17:03:45 <Born_Acorn> He's commiting! 17:03:48 <Znuff> hey, wait a sec... weren't you able to build maglev over monorail? 17:03:51 <Znuff> and, like... merge them? 17:04:23 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: hush 17:04:56 <grimrc> these are skips too; they taste just like prawn crackers: http://www.taquitos.net/dbimages13/Skips-Prawn.jpg 17:05:06 <Sacro> mmmmmmmmm, skips 17:05:17 <Sacro> not had them in a while 17:05:58 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:06:26 <Znuff> where did I read that you can build maglev over monorail? =( 17:06:58 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:07:15 <Maedhros> that might be the UnifiedMaglev switch in ttdpatch... 17:08:14 <Znuff> aaaaaaaaaargh 17:08:17 * Znuff shoots self 17:08:24 <Znuff> and I actually waited for 20 years =( 17:08:33 <Sacro> Maedhros: probably yeah 17:08:52 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:26 <peter1138> *sigh* 17:10:37 <peter1138> maybe a trailer's cheaper ;p 17:11:25 <Znuff> guess MagLev won't happen for me 17:12:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82C33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 17:12:14 <Born_Acorn> You can keep a trailer. 17:12:24 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82C33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:12:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:14:33 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:54 <grimrc> a trailer can keep you 17:20:38 <Znuff> I need bigger supersonic jets =( 17:21:55 <hylje> newgrf a hueg jet holding 2k passengers or so 17:22:22 <Znuff> that would be usefull 17:24:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host84-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:25:05 <Wolf01> hi 17:28:42 <Sacro> Wolf01: hey 17:28:48 <Sacro> mmm, amateur TaTU 17:29:33 <Born_Acorn> Tatoo! 17:29:39 <Born_Acorn> Tatooine! 17:29:46 <hylje> scary 17:30:07 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 17:30:44 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176116226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 17:31:05 <Sacro> ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL 17:31:16 <Sacro> Beyonce's new album is called B-Day 17:31:31 <Sacro> HAHAHHAHAHAHA 17:32:10 <Prof_Frink> Could you fetch the hall porter, there appears to be a frog in my bidet. 17:32:26 * Sacro waits till she finds out what a bidet is used for 17:32:30 <Born_Acorn> OOh. An assert! 17:32:38 <Born_Acorn> industry_map.h ! 17:32:55 <hylje> :o 17:32:57 <Born_Acorn> I was generating a new Arctic Map 17:33:04 <scia> :o 17:33:06 <Born_Acorn> It was processing industries really slowly 17:33:24 <Born_Acorn> Then it went onto Trees 17:33:27 <Born_Acorn> then Assert! 17:33:37 <scia> are you sure? :o 17:33:40 <Born_Acorn> Yes! 17:33:44 <Born_Acorn> I have it on screen now 17:33:56 <scia> lies! 17:34:02 <scia> give me teh screenshot :p 17:34:12 <Znuff> how come you actually get to see when you generate maps? =/ 17:34:28 <Znuff> I can't see a thing, it's too fast 17:34:35 <Born_Acorn> TGP. 17:34:42 <Born_Acorn> You aren't using the nightlies then. :p 17:34:48 <scia> I guess you don't use a nightly version 17:34:54 <scia> ... 17:34:58 <scia> beaten :( 17:34:59 <Znuff> uh 17:35:10 <hylje> i think you arent using the nighty 17:35:12 <Znuff> what's so special about nightly builds? 17:35:27 <Born_Acorn> They are the cutting edge of OTTD development 17:35:39 <Znuff> do the features in nightly actually get into the next version of OTDD? 17:35:46 <scia> and it even doesn't cut :D 17:35:58 <Born_Acorn> Line 110. Expression: IsTileType(t,MP_INDUSTRY) 17:36:09 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:36:15 <Born_Acorn> Znuff, yeah, but that's probably months, even 6 months away 17:36:36 <Born_Acorn> Gaps between official large releases are often massive 17:36:37 <Znuff> do save games work between versions? I'm guessing not 17:36:47 <hylje> old saves work on newer 17:36:56 <hylje> generally 17:37:11 <CIA-2> peter1138 * r6456 /trunk/ (lang/english.txt livery.h player_gui.c vehicle.c): - Replace single colour scheme for passenger wagons with separate schemes for each of steam, diesel or electric engines. Savegames from the previous revision will not load. 17:37:11 <Znuff> hmmm :-? 17:37:24 <Sacro> peter1138: thanks! 17:37:35 <Znuff> now that's the answer to my question 17:37:40 <hylje> peter1138: thanks for updating the trunk when i was compiling 17:37:48 <Born_Acorn> ho ho ho 17:37:54 <Znuff> is there something else than the .exe changed? 17:37:58 <Znuff> I mean, can I keep both? 17:38:01 <glx> Znuff: not a problem the nightlies will load fine 17:38:12 <Sacro> arrgh >< why is it redoing all the DEPs 17:38:39 <hylje> Sacro: sometimes a .h forces full recompile 17:38:48 <Znuff> can I? 17:39:00 <Sacro> ooh, livery.h 17:39:06 <hylje> Znuff: you can keep both, just install them to two directories 17:39:12 <peter1138> Sacro: i changed english.txt ... 17:39:20 <Sacro> peter1138: ahhh yes 17:39:35 * Born_Acorn svn updates 17:39:35 <Znuff> was thinking more of like, can I just put the nightly build .exe and rename it to openttd-nightly.exe ;-) or there are more files changed? 17:39:50 <Born_Acorn> The lang files change 17:40:07 <Born_Acorn> But just have a separate installation 17:40:11 <Born_Acorn> It's easier. 17:40:13 <Znuff> I presume that new things are added, right? 17:40:14 <Znuff> heh 17:40:21 <Born_Acorn> Lots and lots of new features. 17:40:30 <Born_Acorn> 0.4.8 was a featureless release. 17:40:33 <hylje> check miniin for even more features 17:40:35 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:40:50 <Born_Acorn> So it has all features added to trunk from 0.4.7 17:41:43 <hylje> arr 17:42:03 <hylje> doing that subarctic 2048x2048 map is killing my proc 17:42:17 <Sacro> 0.4.8 was a backported bugfix release 17:42:18 <Sacro> hylje: it does take a while... 17:42:33 <hylje> 300/4192 17:42:41 <hylje> er, 300/4912 17:43:37 <Born_Acorn> Darkvater, was it you who committed grf parameter support? 17:43:45 <Born_Acorn> If so, yay! 17:43:53 <Znuff> 2048x2048? 17:43:54 <hylje> hah 17:44:03 <Znuff> I play 128x128 o.O 17:44:16 <Sacro> heh 17:44:24 * Sacro cant wait for the next MiniIN sync 17:44:38 <hylje> canceling the generation said "out of memory" 17:45:42 <Znuff> what's MiniIN? 17:46:14 <hylje> its a delayed trunk with a fuckton of patches 17:46:38 <Znuff> why delayed? 17:46:42 <Sacro> hylje: is that an imperial or metric measurement 17:47:02 <Znuff> oh, nvm, looking at the wiki now 17:47:13 <hylje> Znuff: it doesnt get immedetiate commits to trunk, it gets synced 17:48:02 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:42 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E43C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:53 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 17:49:53 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :D 17:50:17 <hylje> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA! 17:50:18 <glx> Wales town isn't it? 17:50:24 <hylje> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LAME 17:50:48 <hylje> glx: yes 17:50:54 <hylje> glx: wales people are nuts. 17:51:04 <Znuff> that "send to depots" wasn't there 17:51:28 <Sacro> glx: welsh 17:52:48 <Znuff> >g< 17:53:01 <Znuff> there's a send to depots, but how do you start all the vehicles back again? 17:54:59 <Sacro> Znuff: if you find it, let me know 17:55:07 <Znuff> o.O 17:55:42 <glx> open the depots and click on the flags :) 17:58:00 <izhirahider> the new things to translate, namely the livery schemes, where can I see them in the game? 17:58:34 <glx> open the company window and click on color 17:58:39 <Sacro> izhirahider: change your company colour scheme 17:58:43 <Sacro> glx: coloUr :p 17:59:10 <glx> Sacro: let my english alone :) 17:59:17 <izhirahider> ok 17:59:47 <Born_Acorn> Is it possible for the transport company name limit to be expanded? 18:00:05 <Sacro> hmm 18:00:06 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Reverse_projection.png 18:00:12 <Sacro> glx: s/let/leave/ :p 18:00:19 <Sacro> glx: you correct my german! 18:00:32 <glx> Sacro: I don't speak german 18:00:34 <izhirahider> Sacro, this means that we can have different colors for different vehicles in the same company? 18:00:41 <glx> yes 18:00:44 <izhirahider> isn't this confusing? 18:01:00 <glx> nobody forces you to use it 18:01:20 <Born_Acorn> In multiplayer though, it'd be confusing. 18:01:42 <Born_Acorn> (Is that what you mean) 18:01:49 <Born_Acorn> (I don't think so though) 18:02:02 <izhirahider> well, the cars color of one team can be the train color for other, that can be confusing, yes :) 18:02:04 <hylje> why it would be confusing 18:02:14 <hylje> because the rails would always have the company color in the fences 18:02:29 <glx> it's not different as using dbsetxl in MP 18:02:48 <Sacro> izhirahider: yes. and no 18:03:02 <Sacro> hylje: but with subsiduaries 18:03:15 <hylje> yes then it will be really fucking confusing 18:03:34 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_train_human_waste_disposal :| 18:04:06 <hylje> s/_waste// 18:06:16 <Znuff> you know what I hate? not beeing able to see the road depots when the city grows =/ 18:07:28 <Znuff> there should be a lightbeam or something :D 18:07:49 <hylje> just click behind every town building 18:09:36 <Znuff> uh, now when you send it to the depot, the text is orange 18:09:37 <Znuff> cute 18:10:28 <ln-> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transport-Tycoon-Strategies-Secrets-Buchanan/dp/078211752X/sr=8-4/qid=1158343704/ref=sr_1_4/202-7040602-7259848 18:11:11 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Oxford_shark.jpg >< 18:16:23 <Znuff> there's a book about TTD? pff! 18:18:58 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 18:21:10 <Znuff> what patch did I activate? I seem to borrow money out of the blue o.O 18:21:18 <Znuff> even though I have 90Mil+ 18:27:49 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-224-155.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:22 <Darkvater> Born_Acorn: yes, it was me. Is there something wrong with it? 18:31:42 <Darkvater> peter1138: back to some devving? 18:32:45 <Born_Acorn> No, I just wanted to "yay" you for doing it. 18:32:54 * Born_Acorn can have UKRS in Temperate! 18:33:01 <Born_Acorn> *Arctic! 18:33:19 <Darkvater> ah, good :) 18:33:33 <Darkvater> << bb around midnight 18:34:00 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-224-155.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:36:36 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 18:37:48 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-136-186.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 18:38:42 <peter1138> wtf 18:38:56 <peter1138> why is it so hard to get the current date from a batch fiel? 18:39:00 <izhirahider> Can someone pick up a livery color that is the main color of the another team? 18:39:13 <peter1138> yes, currently 18:44:21 <izhirahider> ok 18:45:58 <Wolf01> placing signals: i + (_ctrl_pressed ? 8 : 0) + (!HASBIT(_cur_signal_variant, 0) != !_ctrl_pressed ? 16 : 0) + (_cur_signal_type << 5), 18:45:58 <Wolf01> what does mean the 8 and 16 when pressing CTRL? 18:47:24 <Wolf01> 8 light signals and 16 semaphores or vice versa? 18:48:57 <Wolf01> (i'm trying to set to build sempahores before elrails introduction and light signals after that) 18:49:50 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:54:53 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:31 <Sacro> Wolf01: wooyay! 18:58:00 <Wolf01> *coff*sacro*coff*gay*coff* 18:58:08 <Brianetta> peter1138: DOSBox goes one better. 18:58:15 <Brianetta> Illegal command: date. 18:58:17 <Brianetta> Illegal command: time. 18:58:20 * Sacro slaps Wolf01 with his handbag 18:58:39 <Brianetta> Sacro likes the lads? Oooh. 18:58:53 <Sacro> Brianetta: no, Sacro likes the ladies 18:59:00 <Znuff> how does one build 8 semaphores? o.O 18:59:15 <hylje> control-click when placing signal 18:59:18 <hylje> you get a sema 18:59:21 <grimrc> it'd be nice if the player can choose not to see different livery colours for the opponents vehicles (ignoring their colour settings basically) 18:59:23 <Sacro> 8? 18:59:29 <Brianetta> Sweaty lads from down the town, red-faced with shirts open after four hours' drinking and watching football in pubs? 18:59:34 <grimrc> (spot the missing apostrophe) 18:59:46 <Sacro> oponnent's 18:59:53 <hylje> r'ed-faced 18:59:58 <Sacro> errm, vehicle's? 19:00:11 <Sacro> hmm, not sure which should and which shouldn't 19:01:06 <grimrc> opponents' vehicles ---- Sacro 19:01:22 *** grimrc is now known as GrimRC[away] 19:04:08 <Sacro> hmm... if i had a crack for windows, and i posted it on my site, and it got taken down, would it be an MS-DOS 19:04:11 <peter1138> GrimRC[away]: yes, that will be in 19:04:20 <peter1138> i already planned that :) 19:04:33 <Sacro> peter1138: how about css for colours :p 19:04:49 <peter1138> ? 19:05:27 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:00 <Sacro> style sheets for colouring trains 19:06:02 <Sacro> lws1984! 19:06:23 <lws1984> Sacro! 19:11:28 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D8DE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:13:30 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387D8DE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:13:41 <Sacro> clones :| 19:15:03 <peter1138> ahh, how about... no :P 19:16:19 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/files/intercontinental_airport_863.png is it me, or does the building 2nd up from the bottom left have a floating roof 19:17:38 <Wolf01> is you 19:18:37 <Wolf01> there are 2 buildings of the same kind 19:20:32 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D8DE.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:53 <peter1138> heh 19:21:21 <peter1138> grrr, fucking slow pc 19:22:00 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: update the 2cc wiki page! 19:22:03 <peter1138> the image is out of date ;) 19:23:25 <hylje> its you! 19:23:33 <Sacro> hylje: yes, who else would i be 19:24:01 <Sacro> right, sophie is here, back later ;) 19:24:06 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-224-155.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:44 <gw280> how do I stop the headings from popping up at the bottom of the screen? 19:34:48 <Wolf01> message settings? 19:34:54 <gw280> thanks 19:35:09 <Wolf01> hold the newspaper button 19:35:19 <Wolf01> and select settings from the menu 19:38:08 *** Ben [~Ben_Robbi@82.153.142.99] has joined #openttd 19:42:41 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 19:44:01 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:49:13 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, yeah. That's your own fault! 19:53:20 <Znuff> why do I have Oil Rigs without docks?! 19:56:31 <Wolf01> which game version? 19:57:26 <Znuff> nightly 19:57:54 <Znuff> the new oilrigs appeared without text above them 19:57:58 <Znuff> so I can't dock =/ 19:58:38 <Wolf01> ok, but what revision, -> r#### <- you can see it in the titlebar 19:59:05 <Wolf01> i had this problem about 3000 revisions ago 20:00:24 <Znuff> 6448 20:01:16 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:06:18 *** znikoz [znikoz@npa79.kv.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 20:13:06 *** znikoz [znikoz@npa79.kv.ukrtel.net] has left #openttd [] 20:13:49 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:16:58 *** Pyropuschel [~gina@p548370BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:04 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:22:14 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, can you make the new Company Colour GUI not close with The Transport Company window? ;p 20:22:28 <Born_Acorn> Since both windows take up so much space! 20:22:47 <XeryusTC> Born_Acorn: i think that it is a parent-child thing 20:23:00 <peter1138> feh 20:23:08 <Born_Acorn> Give the child up for adoption then. 20:23:15 <Born_Acorn> Or stop paying child support! 20:23:39 <Born_Acorn> Or the Child could fight for emancipation! 20:24:33 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has left #openttd [Leaving] 20:25:09 <peter1138> important question... 20:25:16 <Znuff> there's only one thing missing in this game: the weather :-) 20:25:18 <peter1138> what colour shall i paint bedroom 2? 20:25:31 <Znuff> bedroom2? 20:25:38 <Znuff> what color is bedroom1? 20:25:39 <peter1138> yes 20:25:43 <peter1138> white, at the moment 20:25:50 <hylje> green and red, mixed in spirals 20:25:54 <peter1138> well, sort of dirty yellowy white, as i've not decorated it 20:26:09 <peter1138> i don't have the skills to paint spirals :( 20:26:40 <hylje> use a pen 20:26:48 <peter1138> ... 20:26:52 <peter1138> i don't have the skills to draw spirals :( 20:27:17 <hylje> bah 20:27:24 <hylje> so dont have them in spirals 20:27:32 <peter1138> ok ;) 20:27:42 <ln-> http://darkmonkey.org.uk/4/Main/875 20:28:05 <hylje> oh, its führer! 20:28:11 <peter1138> heh 20:28:50 <lws1984> f?her 20:28:51 <lws1984> ? 20:30:55 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:08 *** Serriaromeo_ [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 20:32:22 <Znuff> uh, my CPU actually starts to feel a lil' pushed by openttd 20:32:34 *** eper [eperdeme@eper.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:35 <hylje> turbo tends to do that 20:35:04 <Znuff> turbo? 20:35:16 <hylje> the "fast forward" 20:36:03 <Znuff> that actually makes things better :DL 20:36:15 <Znuff> but I have a shitty CPU anyway 20:36:18 <Znuff> cpu[1 x Intel Celeron @ 797 MHz w/ 128 KB L2 Cache | Load: 38%] 20:37:52 <CIA-2> peter1138 * r6457 /trunk/player_gui.c: 20:37:52 <CIA-2> - Codechange: Allow the company colour window to stay open after the 20:37:52 <CIA-2> company information window has been closed, as the company colour window 20:37:52 <CIA-2> is now much larger. 20:37:58 <peter1138> boo, linebreaks :/ 20:38:04 <gw280> how old does a company need to be before you can buy shares in it? 20:38:20 <peter1138> 5 years 20:38:24 <gw280> ok 20:38:55 <Znuff> so, when you buy shares you get % of their profit? 20:39:02 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: there :) 20:39:08 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 20:39:14 <peter1138> Znuff: no, you just get to make money when you sell the shares later 20:39:26 <Znuff> oh 20:39:39 <Znuff> the other companies worth =/ 20:39:49 <Znuff> I'm guessing %50 of shares = ? 20:40:55 <peter1138> that's why you buy them on the cheap :) 20:41:41 <Znuff> and if you buy d you buy the whole company 20:41:47 <Znuff> you should actually get some profit :-? 20:42:21 <Znuff> I mean, that's how it is in Real World 20:43:12 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-136-186.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: muss wech] 20:43:24 <hylje> AIs rarely get really expensive 20:44:13 <Znuff> what do I do about those platforms I have with no docks? 20:47:58 *** Serriaromeo_ [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:11 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:48:21 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:26 <Brianetta> autopilot is at svn version 5 (-: 20:56:44 <peter1138> Znuff: what's not working? 20:57:03 <gw280> hrmm 20:57:15 <Znuff> peter1138, got oil rigs without names/docks 20:57:17 <gw280> the company is 5 years old and I can't buy its shares yet 20:57:58 <AsterixMG> gw280, are you playing miniin? 20:58:02 <peter1138> umm... kay 20:58:18 <gw280> AsterixMG: actually, it's just let me buy it.. after 6 years 20:59:39 <peter1138> Znuff: yeah, that's a bug. hmm. 21:00:27 <Brianetta> Off by one (: 21:02:25 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:02:37 <Belugas_Gone> gooed weekend 21:02:49 <CIA-2> peter1138 * r6458 /trunk/players.c: - Fix (r6457): ... but close the colour window if the company is removed. (Thanks Rubidium) 21:03:22 <ln-> when will OTTD support this: http://www.jeffiscool.com/pictures/IndiaTrain.jpg 21:04:01 <AsterixMG> new feature: overloading trains, lol 21:04:14 <Znuff> 1000passangers/car :-) 21:04:16 <peter1138> ahh, health and safety regulations... 21:04:28 <hylje> :D 21:04:34 <Znuff> wonder what it will cost me to plant trees all over the map? :-? 21:04:44 <hylje> overloading would make the train more profitable 21:04:53 <hylje> but it would not raise the station ratings 21:05:19 *** eper [eperdeme@eper.net] has quit [] 21:06:13 <Znuff> stations have ratings? 21:07:24 <hylje> yes 21:07:34 <Znuff> where do I check those ratings? 21:08:04 <AsterixMG> Znuff, there's a button in the station-view window called "rating" 21:08:28 <Znuff> me blind 21:08:35 <AsterixMG> :) 21:08:49 <Znuff> eeek, I've got a "poor" rank! :( 21:10:13 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:10:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host84-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:10:22 *** Ammler [~Ammler@118-190.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 21:13:45 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081CAF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 21:14:07 <Znuff> >g< 21:14:13 <Znuff> I can't build a bigger airport 21:14:18 <Znuff> this sucks, you =( 21:17:15 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5AF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:16 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:47 <Znuff> peter1138, as a suggestion... drag&drop should be supported for purchasing land 21:26:14 <peter1138> heh 21:28:39 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 21:29:53 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 21:30:38 <Znuff> uh, intercontinental airports are neat 21:33:48 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 21:34:37 *** Guest56 [Gono@N911P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:35:36 <Znuff> also, a "stop all traffic" for airports would be usefull 21:36:13 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:34 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 21:36:47 *** jez [shield@88-96-28-22.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:36:47 <jez> hi 21:38:52 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N952P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:14 <jez> no one here? geez 21:42:23 <jez> it's about the right time in the US 21:42:57 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 21:43:33 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Probably doing something else] 21:44:58 <CIA-2> peter1138 * r6459 /trunk/industry_cmd.c: - Fix (r6433): An enum mixup caused oilrigs to not have a station part. Thanks to Znuff for pointing out. 21:45:31 <Znuff> ^_^ 21:46:36 <jez> How does the palette system work in OpenTTD? This page says that there are 8 reserved palette colours for 'company', but that's just one company; where do all the other companies get their colours?: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=PalettesAndCoordinates 21:46:50 <peter1138> heh 21:46:56 <peter1138> it's those 8 colours that are remapped 21:47:11 <peter1138> they are remapped as the sprite is drawn 21:47:27 <peter1138> not by changing the actual palette map 21:47:57 <jez> erm 21:48:02 <jez> sorry i dont quite understand 21:48:26 <jez> you mean that palette is getting changes whilst the screen is being drawn? 21:48:31 <glx> if a sprite uses those 8 colours, they are replaced by company colour 21:48:34 <jez> so basically every few ms 21:48:39 <peter1138> no 21:48:45 <peter1138> it's replaced as it's drawn 21:48:53 <jez> thats what i said 21:48:55 <peter1138> drawn to the screen memory, not drawn on the monitor 21:49:03 <jez> yes 21:49:06 <jez> but that's still a hell of a lot 21:49:27 <peter1138> no, only when something is drawn :P 21:49:39 <jez> well stuff is getting drawn regularly, like moving buses, trains, etc 21:49:46 <jez> very regularly 21:49:46 <peter1138> yes 21:49:52 <peter1138> it's cheap, though 21:49:56 <jez> hum 21:50:12 <jez> im wondering why some guy was recommending using the patch company 2 palette for remapping the face 21:50:17 <jez> for different colour hair etc 21:50:25 <jez> surely that's already reserved, why would you use it for drawing the face 21:50:42 <peter1138> it's only reserved for vehicles 21:50:47 <jez> so? 21:50:50 <peter1138> (and then only vehicles that use it, heh) 21:50:59 <peter1138> so you can use whatever for something else 21:51:04 <jez> the colours are already set 21:51:09 <jez> arent they? 21:51:16 <peter1138> ... 21:51:24 <peter1138> the colours... they are mapped when the sprite is drawn 21:51:27 <jez> yes 21:51:32 <peter1138> to whatever you specify 21:51:36 <jez> erm 21:51:50 <jez> see this page: 21:51:56 <jez> see this page: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=PalettesAndCoordinates 21:52:06 <jez> ok, it has 2 sections, 'company' and 'patch company 2' 21:52:15 <peter1138> yup 21:52:21 <glx> that's for vehicles 21:52:27 <jez> those sections in the palette are 'reserved' right? 21:52:46 <peter1138> only for vehicles 21:53:04 <jez> dont quite appreciate the diffrence between vehicles and anything else 21:53:04 <peter1138> or rather, only for sprites that are drawn with a company colour map applied 21:53:08 <jez> a sprite is a sprite, isnt it? 21:53:12 <peter1138> yeah 21:53:12 <jez> hum 21:53:19 *** Serriaromeo_ [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 21:53:28 <jez> and... a face wouldnt be drawn with the company colour map applied 21:53:35 <peter1138> nope 21:53:47 <jez> except it has the company's colour sash behind it 21:53:57 <peter1138> um, yeah :) 21:54:06 <peter1138> isn't that a separate sprite? 21:54:14 <peter1138> i can't remember 21:54:28 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:44 <jez> the code uses DrawSprite to draw it 21:55:54 <jez> DrawSprite(GENERAL_SPRITE_COLOR(color) + SPRITE_PALETTE(SPR_GRADIENT), x, y); 21:57:01 *** Ammler [~Ammler@118-190.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:41 *** Ammler [~Ammler@118-190.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 21:57:44 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:58:04 <peter1138> yup 21:58:22 <peter1138> applies the company colour to the gradient sprite 21:58:22 <jez> hmm 21:58:30 <peter1138> through the magic of macros :) 21:59:48 <jez> so GENERAL_SPRITE COLOR(color) sets it to the recolour value + recolour section of palette + color 21:59:53 <jez> what does the SPRITE_PALETTE bit do 22:01:38 <jez> this palette stuff confuses me. 22:01:55 <peter1138> basically it just sets bits in a 32bit value 22:02:35 <peter1138> general_sprite_color(color) pics the palette remap and puts it in bits 16-29 22:02:52 <peter1138> the sprite itself, SPR_GRADIENT is in bits 0-13 22:03:24 <peter1138> the left over bits mean other things 22:03:32 <peter1138> one of which is use the palette remap 22:03:40 <peter1138> another is draw it transparent 22:05:44 <jez> but they havent set the 'use palette remap' bit 22:05:56 <Znuff> uhm, what's "Mogul"? o.O 22:06:27 <peter1138> sprite_palette() does that, iirc 22:07:40 <jez> #define SPRITE_PALETTE(x) ((x) | PALETTE_MODIFIER_COLOR) 22:07:42 <jez> ? 22:07:55 <peter1138> yes 22:08:09 <jez> so it sort of means 'draw this sprite with a custom palette' 22:08:28 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08:36 <peter1138> it means, draw this sprite with a palette modifier 22:09:01 <jez> except, if the palette modifier is 0 and hasnt been set, it doesn't. 22:09:13 <peter1138> right 22:09:19 <jez> so it's redundant 22:09:25 <peter1138> ... 22:09:29 <jez> no? 22:10:13 <peter1138> why? 22:10:21 <jez> because you can set the modifier to 0 22:10:24 <jez> has the same effect 22:10:30 <jez> why have ane xtra way to not use a palette modifier 22:11:07 <peter1138> ah, sorry 22:11:24 <peter1138> 0 is a valid value, heh 22:11:30 <jez> in fact, it looks like all the macros used to select sprites in DrawPlayerFace are SPRITE_PALETTE(), even though most aren't modifying the palette 22:11:34 <peter1138> it'll probably result in some fucked upness 22:11:44 <jez> well apparently not 22:11:59 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:12:09 <jez> well not all of them 22:12:22 <peter1138> um 22:12:43 <peter1138> of the entries that use SPRITE_PALETTE(), they all have the high bit set... 22:12:47 <jez> oh 22:12:53 <jez> only the eyes which are.... palette remapped 22:13:09 <jez> 'the high bit'? 22:13:25 <peter1138> well, bits 16-29 22:13:37 <jez> high word 22:13:37 <jez> not bit 22:13:45 <jez> and that must've been why the var was called high, heh 22:13:49 <jez> i'll have to rename it back 22:14:45 <peter1138> i had a patch to tidy that code up 22:14:47 <peter1138> but it's out of date now 22:17:20 <peter1138> SPRITE_PALETTE() does that... 22:17:24 <peter1138> hmm 22:17:41 <peter1138> ok, that was weird :P 22:17:46 <peter1138> i remember now 22:17:50 <peter1138> i look at that code 22:17:52 <peter1138> and go 22:17:54 <peter1138> BLURGH 22:18:17 <jez> tidy what code up 22:18:24 <peter1138> the face drawing code 22:18:26 <jez> heh 22:18:37 <jez> hrm, im kind of revamping that whole thing 22:18:41 <jez> like, the format of the face int 22:18:46 <jez> think that'll go down well? :-) 22:18:57 <jez> it almost seems to determine ethnicity based on randomness 22:19:08 <jez> if ((((((face >> 7) ^ face) >> 7) ^ face) & 0x8080000) == 0x8000000) 22:19:08 <jez> flag |= 2; // 0 for Western-Caucasian, 1 for black 22:19:24 <jez> im thinking of using 1 bit to determine it, like gender 22:19:31 <peter1138> well it is supposed to be random... 22:19:40 <jez> ah.. it WAS :-) 22:19:49 <jez> now i'm adding a face customiser ;-) 22:20:05 <peter1138> but that was already done ;p 22:20:25 <jez> im just wondering whether those magic numbers actually do anything clever or literally Chris Sawyer just took a formula that picked 1 or 0 roughly 50% of the time 22:20:33 <jez> based on no particular useful value 22:20:41 <jez> already done? by whom? where? 22:21:55 *** Serriaromeo_ [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:05 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 22:23:36 <jez> hello? 22:26:43 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:33:52 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:48 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:36:19 <robobed> gmorning 22:36:28 *** robobed is now known as roboboy 22:37:47 <Znuff> peter1138, do monorail vehicles appear anywhere for replacement? 22:38:03 <Znuff> oh, nvm 22:41:51 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D8DE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:41:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D8DE.versanet.de] has quit [] 22:43:27 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:31 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:46:25 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 22:49:22 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387D8DE.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:50:33 *** _zoomorfo_ [~zootropo@62-43-131-152.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 22:50:45 <_zoomorfo_> hello 22:50:55 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:59 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-203-149.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:51:14 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:03:08 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F9E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:08 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:39 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [] 23:09:50 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:10:44 <Darkvater> holy crap 23:10:49 <Darkvater> another 3 hour tennis game o_O 23:11:10 <_zoomorfo_> who vs who? 23:14:00 <Darkvater> me vs some bloke 23:14:03 <Darkvater> :) 23:14:45 <_zoomorfo_> who won? :) 23:14:51 <Darkvater> me 23:14:53 <Darkvater> of course ^_^ 23:15:02 <Sacro> at least it was worth it then 23:15:21 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 23:15:41 <Darkvater> yeah, definitely..just absolutely weird though 23:15:57 <Darkvater> I'm leading 5-2 in the first set and manage to lose it with 7-5 :O 23:16:03 <Darkvater> then I win the second set 6-2 23:16:25 <Darkvater> and the third set, after starting from 0-3 becomes a tiebreak 23:16:34 <Darkvater> eh... a bit embarassing 23:19:15 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 23:21:06 <Darkvater> it's way too late to do anything today. Good night all :) 23:23:07 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82C33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23:19 <Sacro> night dariius 23:23:20 <Sacro> err 23:23:24 <Sacro> night Darkvater 23:24:13 <Darkvater> hmm 23:24:16 <Darkvater> gn Sacro 23:24:20 <Darkvater> peter1138: ping 23:24:30 <Darkvater> i guess he's asleep, but one can always try 23:24:46 <Sacro> i dunno, not been back long 23:25:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B844BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:25:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:25:46 <Darkvater> hmm, nvm 23:25:49 <Darkvater> just a bit confusing 23:25:52 <Darkvater> gn all 23:26:41 *** GrimRC[away] is now known as GrimRC 23:28:35 <Sacro> night Darkvater :) 23:29:04 *** _zoomorfo_ [~zootropo@62-43-131-152.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 23:34:16 <GrimRC> that oil-rig station bug's been fixed; cool 23:35:12 <GrimRC> Znuff: draggable land purchase has been added to MiniIN 23:37:09 <Znuff> neat 23:38:29 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F9E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:07 <jez> where is peter1138? 23:40:34 * Brianetta points 23:41:48 <jez> hasn't been responding 23:43:26 <Sacro> :o tornado in leeds and harrogate 23:44:08 <jez> erm 23:44:15 <jez> isn't that yesterday's news? 23:44:26 <Sacro> im just catching up 23:46:45 <GrimRC> news to me too 23:47:58 <jez> Pope 'meant no offence' to Islam 23:48:00 <jez> hah 23:48:07 <jez> oh well, here goes: Fuck Islam 23:48:11 <jez> and I did mean offence 23:48:14 <Sacro> Hitler 'meant no offence' to jews... 23:48:33 <Sacro> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/nz_badminton_kerfuffle/ :D 23:49:07 <jez> the day all Muslims apologise for the spoutings of the Iranian leader is the day I give a shit about what they decide to get offended about 23:49:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B844BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:27 <jez> "the International Badminton Federation (IBF) has decided not to take the Black Cocks lying down." 23:50:31 <jez> will they be on all fours? 23:50:53 <Sacro> jez: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/nz_badminton_kerfuffle/ 23:51:11 <jez> erm, i just read it 23:51:27 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B842AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:51:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:54:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 23:55:04 <Znuff> hint for a feature: bridges on top of each other 23:55:19 <Sacro> Znuff: /branches/bridges 23:56:15 <Znuff> ? 23:57:26 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 23:57:43 *** jez [shield@88-96-28-22.dsl.zen.co.uk] has quit [] 23:59:45 <Znuff> Sacro, ?