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Log for #openttd on 29th October 2006:
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00:39:45  <CIA-1> belugas * r7001 /trunk/ (industry_gui.c table/build_industry.h):
00:39:45  <CIA-1> -Codechange: _build_industry_trypes is now only used by industry_gui.c. Move it there.
00:39:45  <CIA-1> -Codechange: _industry_type_cost is not defined, remove its declaration
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00:35:30  <CIA-1> glx * r7002 /branches/MiniIN/order_gui.c:
00:35:30  <CIA-1> [MiniIN] -Fix: 'service' button is a push button
00:35:30  <CIA-1> [MiniIN] -Fix: 'refit' button is now present for depot order (it replaces '% loading' button)
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00:48:11  <aes> anyone awake?
00:48:33  <lws1984> aye?
00:48:37  <lws1984> not that I count :p
00:48:39  <aes> ...that perhaps might accept an amd64 debian package...?
00:48:59  <lws1984> .....well, in that case, nobody's awake
00:49:01  <glx> hmm better try tomorrow :)
00:49:02  <aes> I made one, and now it seems such a waste not to share it..
00:49:32  <aes> Any other idea about what to do with it?
00:49:52  <aes> Any regulars that can pass it on?
00:50:37  <Eddi|zuHause2> you should really ask such a thing during the day ;)
00:50:56  <aes> By day, I'm a prole...
00:51:12  <Eddi|zuHause2> hmm... is that just me, or was it 2:50 an hour ago already? :p
00:51:46  <aes> Think so, we're in CET here now, so..
00:52:09  <Eddi|zuHause2> that was a rhetorical question :p
00:52:48  <aes> Important thing is it wasn't 1162086747 before. :-P
00:53:18  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i wonder if this will affect the 24h disconnect...
00:54:36  <aes> Aha! I'll just offer to send it over the IRC file-gadget-thingy and leave it...
00:54:44  <Eddi|zuHause2> i force a disconnect on 4:30 each day, but that are 25h then, so i might be thrown out an hour early
00:55:05  <aes> why?
00:55:16  <glx> weird ISP :P
00:55:20  <aes> I mean, I get the hour. Aha.
00:55:22  <Eddi|zuHause2> well, because the provider disconnects every 24h
00:56:11  <aes> Neat. The file transfer thingy seems content to wait forever. That's nice.
00:57:03  <aes> DCC SEND openttd_0.4.8-1_amd64.deb to blathijs timed out - aborting.
00:57:07  <aes> Aaagh!
00:59:04  <aes> ok, if I get an email, I'll reply, otherwise this will just be nice on my box. gn yall.
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02:32:05  <Eddi|zuHause3> hm...
02:32:42  <glx> what you though just happened :)
02:33:28  <Eddi|zuHause3> it happened what i expected, but not what i hoped
02:34:22  <glx> you'll need to reconnect in 1 hour to restore the previous behaviour
02:34:33  <Eddi|zuHause3> i know ;)
02:34:47  <Eddi|zuHause3> which is why i think about switching to 3:30
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06:46:10  <Wolf01> hi
07:13:43  <peter1138> hi
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09:13:14  <Maedhros> morning
09:16:23  <Noldo> morning
09:22:56  <Tobin> Evening.
09:23:08  <Tobin> Crazy timezones.
09:24:25  <Noldo> had us waiting for the bus for an extra hour
09:26:00  <Tobin> Heh.
09:30:56  <Nigel> evening
09:31:16  <Nigel> 2 mornings and 2 evenings
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09:47:30  <LSky`> morning
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10:03:09  <Maedhros> hmmm, so that's why "small" towns usually end up bigger than "medium" towns when creating them with the scenario editor...
10:03:49  <Noldo> what?
10:03:56  <Maedhros> "small" towns are given a size_mode of 0 to DoCreateTown, which effectively means "random size between 8 and 24"
10:04:12  <Maedhros> "medium" towns are given a size_mode of 1, which means "size == 3"
10:04:20  <Noldo> it's a bug!
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10:13:12  <Maedhros> patchified - http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/town_size_scenario_editor-r7002.diff
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10:20:10  <Darkvater> morning
10:20:32  <Maedhros> morning Darkvater
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10:21:41  <jez> hi
10:24:58  <Darkvater> hi
10:25:02  <Darkvater> peter1138:
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10:26:08  <Darkvater> peter1138: I just realized something durung th winter-eclipse: my WWT_MATRIX is totally stupid unless we have a way to bind a scrollbar to a certain widget
10:26:16  <Darkvater> morning KUDr
10:26:23  <KUDr> hello
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10:38:39  <peter1138> ah
10:39:20  <peter1138> Darkvater: make the matrix store the number of items
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10:48:19  <peter1138> Darkvater: your new chat stuff
10:48:30  <peter1138> shows an extra ? in the console
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11:25:09  <Darkvater> peter1138: hmm, that would need changing every single window-resize...I was thinking more of storing the scrollbar-id from your scroll-rewrite :)
11:25:14  <peter1138> :)
11:25:25  <Darkvater> peter1138: I think the '?' is probably because of the colour formatter from english.txt
11:25:35  <Darkvater> it's an unknown character so it gets replaced by a ?
11:29:57  <roboboy> gnight
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11:41:00  <peter1138> *nod*
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11:42:33  <Darkvater> sweeet, I bought a bluetooth headset yesterday...
11:42:59  <Darkvater> works like a charm :D (after I convinced windows not to use its crappy drivers which don't support headsets)
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11:47:11  <jez> bit like the windows builtin fax software
11:47:23  <jez> couldnt get the crappy 'component manager' to install it
11:47:29  <jez> complaind files weren't there when they were
11:47:37  <jez> thanks to 3rd party MightyFax, it sent fine
11:47:43  <Darkvater> so gay, MS decided it has bluetooth support and you cannot disable it unless you go screw around deep inside with deleting/renaming files etc
11:48:50  <Darkvater> yah
11:54:27  <Darkvater> bb later
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13:25:24  <Darkvater> so basically I'm waiting for peter1138 :) (saving the max items, or scrollcount is not good cause it can be a lot and wi->data already needs to save the #rows,columns)
13:26:48  <peter1138> hmm
13:27:04  <peter1138> so where'll you store the index?
13:27:26  <peter1138> (or it could be widget+1, urgh)
13:27:37  <Darkvater> and I'm planning to add to it a 'boolean' value to show the grid or hide it, then all the other 'matrix'-kinda stuff can be WWT_MATRIX (or better WWT_LISTBOX)
13:27:46  <peter1138> hmm
13:28:05  <peter1138> why an extra type?
13:28:10  <peter1138> or do you mean rename?
13:28:12  <Darkvater> yes
13:28:31  <Darkvater> data is 16 bits now, upping that to 32bits should solve the problems I think
13:28:55  <peter1138> hmm
13:29:15  <peter1138> i've been wondering about splitting palspriteid into two spriteids (which is what it is)
13:29:17  <Darkvater> at least... I don't have a better idea or we only use 4bits for columns, 4bits for rows
13:29:33  <peter1138> but before that i'd have to fix all the misuses
13:29:44  <Darkvater> and then we have 8 for scrollbar (3 of these or something) and 1 for drawing matrix... and we still have 4 bits free
13:29:46  <peter1138> 16 rows isn't enough :)
13:30:03  <peter1138> 32 bits isn't a problem
13:30:38  <Darkvater> he, yeah, then wi->data should be 32bits
13:34:21  <Eddi|zuHause3> bah i totally hate this thing...
13:34:33  <Darkvater> I also wonder...why is the handling of normal buttons (those that stick down once you push them) not handled centrally?
13:34:53  <Eddi|zuHause3> i entered a command in the console 'dcop amarok player play'
13:34:59  <Eddi|zuHause3> which worked totally fine
13:35:09  <Eddi|zuHause3> but that exact same command in the crontab results in:
13:35:16  <Eddi|zuHause3> ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
13:36:35  <Darkvater> although I think we need Belugas's xtdwidget to be done... widget-based values instead of per window
13:37:01  <Eddi|zuHause3> does anyone have suggestions what i did wrong?
13:38:14  <Darkvater> dcop is not running?
13:38:27  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, it must, if it works from the console
13:39:51  <Maedhros> Eddi|zuHause3: you might be missing some environment variables in the crontab. XAUTHORITY, maybe?
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13:45:48  <Tron> Eddi|zuHause3: environment variables
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13:46:47  <peter1138> Darkvater: isn't that done? or do you mean more?
13:47:20  <Darkvater> peter1138: well it's still w->disabled_mask, etc.
13:48:08  <peter1138> do it's not
13:48:10  <peter1138> *no
13:48:18  <Darkvater> it isn't?
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13:48:51  <Darkvater> he yeah you're right
13:49:00  <Darkvater> sorry belugas ;p
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13:51:15  <CIA-1> KUDr * r7003 /trunk/train_cmd.c: -Fix: only the appropriate train owner can now see the "Train is lost" message (peter1138)
13:52:44  <Eddi|zuHause3> sometimes i wish these CIA messages contained a link to the diff...
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13:53:40  <KUDr> Eddi|zuHause3: yes, would be nice
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13:57:22  <Eddi|zuHause3> yay, it works... (had to export DISPLAY=:0)
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14:03:41  <lolman> :o
14:04:31  <lolman> Ello :)
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14:04:44  <lolman> Oh noes...
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14:05:39  <lolman> Sacro: ello o/
14:07:38  <peter1138> ok
14:07:48  <peter1138> what's the magic incantation for desync debugging?
14:08:00  <lolman> "sync, ya bastard"?
14:10:52  * lolman hides in corner
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14:13:30  <Darkvater> lol
14:13:52  <Darkvater> don't try to load INFRA_SAC's scenario in TTDP 2.5b 8 :)
14:13:55  <Darkvater> almost as bad as openttd;p
14:17:15  <Eddi|zuHause3> maybe you should ask The Book, peter1138 ;)
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14:20:06  <CIA-1> glx * r7004 /branches/MiniIN/main_gui.c: [MiniIN] -Fix: wrong widget type in waypoint view window (thx Gastje33)
14:20:37  <peter1138> Darkvater: oh?
14:20:44  <Sacro> oh noes...
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14:24:59  <qb> grr still getting openttd: gfx.c:142: GfxFillRect: Assertion `bottom > 0' failed.
14:25:05  <qb> after all these years
14:25:13  <glx> version?
14:25:29  <qb> eeuh like every version from 3 years ago
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14:25:59  <qb> and reported many times....
14:26:26  <Sacro> 3 years ago?
14:26:33  <qb> well long
14:26:36  <qb> I dunno how long
14:26:38  <qb> but long
14:26:45  <Maedhros> which grfs are you using?
14:26:48  <qb> none
14:27:01  <qb> only the normal ttd onces
14:27:24  <Tron> which version do you use?
14:27:35  <qb> Tron: now I use the release 0.4.8
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14:27:45  <qb> Tron: we've talked about this one before..
14:27:49  <Tron> ok, it has been fixed in r6351
14:27:54  <qb>  finally
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14:29:36  <qb> btw,
14:29:39  <qb> <-- qball
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14:33:24  <Sacro> hey qb
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14:35:30  <qb> hi silent
14:35:32  <qb> eeuh Sacro
14:35:50  <Sacro> qb: not seen you in #archlinux for a while
14:36:05  <qb> no arch user anymore
14:36:09  <qb> if they remove all api docs
14:36:10  <Sacro> oh :(
14:36:15  <qb> Its no use for me
14:36:32  <Sacro> ive noticed qt api docs are dropped, what else isnt there?
14:37:08  <qb> all the docs for gtk/cairo/glib etc
14:37:52  <Sacro> qb: hmmm, i dunno where i'd find them
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14:38:55  <Sacro>  root:/classlib-gecko is not available
14:39:34  <qb> Sacro: they dropped them out of "policy"
14:39:52  <Sacro> qb: yes i know :( are they not available as seperate packages?
14:40:09  <qb> when I said It was very problematic for me..  they said I was a troll and I could recompile the packages my own.. (if I want that I use gentoo)
14:40:13  <qb> so I left
14:41:20  <qb> because I code alot, and no api is annoying
14:43:56  <Sacro> i miss having apidocs, but then i dont do much coding yet
14:44:36  <qb> atm I am on the ubuntu bandwagon, it's not perfect but it just works
14:45:06  <Sacro> i tried ubuntu, hated it
14:45:11  <Sacro> that was 6.06
14:46:26  <qb> for amd64 it's the one that worked the best
14:46:31  <qb> I've tried severall others
14:46:35  <qb> all missing, broken packages etc
14:46:36  <Sacro> my new pc is amd64
14:46:42  <Sacro> are you using ubuntu64?
14:46:57  <qb> yes
14:47:06  <qb> well I would have gone for dualcore if I would buy a new pc
14:48:51  <Sacro> mine is :)
14:48:58  <qb> intel I ment
14:49:04  <Sacro> eugh, dont like intel
14:50:06  <qb> the dualcores are nice
14:56:22  <Sacro> still dont like em
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15:27:19  <erikv> hi all
15:27:20  <LSky`> afternoon
15:27:22  <LSky`> hi
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15:29:20  <Darkvater> peter1138: http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/SAC_scenario.png
15:29:22  <Darkvater> not good :)
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15:32:04  <Ailure> Intresting water tower graphics
15:32:21  <Ailure> ih
15:32:22  <Ailure> oh
15:32:24  <Ailure> xD
15:32:55  <Darkvater> hehe
15:33:06  <Darkvater> I need newest ttdp to see what it actually is
15:33:50  <Ailure> Sweet factory that requires oil
15:33:53  <Ailure> sounds a bit uhm..
15:34:17  <Eddi|zuHause3> smells like newindustries...
15:34:41  <Darkvater> yea
15:34:55  <Ailure> I assumed that
15:35:02  <Ailure> glitchy in the intresting way though. :)
15:35:22  <LSky`> =o
15:35:29  <Ailure> I always wanted to try the UKRS industries, but I never wanted to bother with TTDpatch
15:35:43  <Ailure> So yeah, I'm looking forward the NewIndustries
15:36:03  <Darkvater> hmm I think I needa have some newgrf files loaded, cause even latest ttdp is showing crap ;)
15:36:11  <LSky`> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=511919#511919  :)
15:37:44  <LSky`> there might be a need for a small section of the website specially for heightmaps?
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16:02:53  <Ailure> maybe
16:02:58  <Ailure> I wish there was a better world map though
16:03:05  <Eddi|zuHause3> i would list those under scenarios
16:03:18  <Ailure> naybe I should go forward with it
16:03:19  <Ailure> this guy like
16:03:21  <Ailure> put Oslo
16:03:26  <Ailure> in the place of Stockholm
16:03:28  <Ailure> :(
16:04:42  <Tron> is any german translator here?
16:05:25  <Sacro> Tron: Eddi|zuHause3 ?
16:05:43  <Eddi|zuHause3> i am not a translator
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16:06:02  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: but you speak english and german :p
16:06:20  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, but Tron does, too
16:06:28  <Tron> i speak german well enough, i need no translator
16:06:58  <Tron> i just want to hurt the german OTTD translators in a very cruel way
16:07:02  <Sacro> Tron: then why ask :)
16:07:05  <Sacro> aaahh...
16:07:08  <Sacro> find out from MiHaMiX ;)
16:07:14  <Eddi|zuHause3> he's a masochist ;)
16:07:29  <Tron> "Gehe nach Depots", "Gehe nach Hangars", "Energie" (power of a train)
16:07:45  <Tron> Eddi|zuHause3: hurting others -> sadist
16:08:11  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, sorry if i am not that familiar with the topic ;)
16:08:18  <Tron> hell, babelfish could translate this better
16:09:59  <Eddi|zuHause3> who made this stuff up?
16:18:46  <Eddi|zuHause3> feature request: with Alt+Arrow, move the mouse cursor (like it was in TTO)
16:19:09  <LSky`> whats wrong with the mouse :o
16:19:30  <Tron> Eddi|zuHause3: if you're using X: SHIFT+NUMLOCK, then numpad cursor keys
16:21:39  <Eddi|zuHause3> nice feature ;)
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16:28:11  <Eddi|zuHause3> but it is not the same...
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16:30:43  <peter1138> so has someone been changing German recently?
16:31:29  <Tron> i have the phone number of the culprit
16:32:27  <jez> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tron2.0box.jpg
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16:41:14  <peter1138> mmm, 260hp railcar pulling 204t
16:41:34  <Sacro> tis dark earliy :(
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16:42:10  <peter1138> ooh ooh, 46 mph
16:42:17  <peter1138> uh oh
16:42:18  <peter1138> hill
16:43:10  <mikk36> aww... so cute music video :)
16:43:10  <mikk36> http://www.jcbsong.co.uk/jcbvideo.asp
16:43:16  <LSky`> peter1138 , 4LV doesn't work in r6994 yet right?
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16:45:22  <peter1138> #...
16:45:31  <peter1138> should do?
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16:46:05  <LSky`> oh i thought you fixed it in r6995
16:46:18  <LSky`> i might have misunderstood it then
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16:53:25  <peter1138> uh
16:53:27  <peter1138> well
16:53:33  <peter1138> i can't remember that far back
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17:08:00  <peter1138> 6996
17:08:30  <peter1138> so it'll never work in 6994, no yet about it
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17:13:15  <Ailure> [17:41] <peter1138> mmm, 260hp railcar pulling 204t
17:13:20  <Ailure> what about
17:13:25  <Ailure> 3,491 ton?
17:13:33  <Ailure> hahaha
17:13:36  <hylje> AAA
17:13:36  <Ailure> oh my god
17:13:40  <Ailure> the acceleration is slow as hell
17:13:40  <peter1138> it goes a bit slower
17:14:13  <Ailure> it takes like
17:14:15  <Ailure> five seconds
17:14:18  <Ailure> before it starts moving
17:14:32  <hylje> how's realistic acceleration
17:14:35  <hylje> does it move at all?
17:14:39  <Ailure> yeah
17:14:41  <Ailure> very slowly
17:14:44  <Ailure> though
17:15:01  <hylje> in real life a weak loco like that wouldnt move shit
17:15:12  <hylje> but here, given a long enough track..
17:16:06  <Ailure> it does have heavy penalties when climbing slopes though
17:16:16  <Ailure> and it slides really far when you manually stop it
17:16:42  <hylje> so power of brakes are relative to the power of teh loco?
17:16:59  <Ailure> I have no idea
17:17:12  <Ailure> Though I'm sure that heavy trains are generally harder to break
17:17:16  <Ailure> than lighter ones
17:17:26  <Ailure> but apart from that, i'm not really sure how the realistic acceleration works
17:17:55  <Ailure> it's really bad though
17:17:58  <Ailure> this trains takes like
17:18:02  <Ailure> 20-30 tiles to stop
17:18:05  <Ailure> when it reaches max speed
17:18:16  <hylje> codeword: *when*
17:18:18  <Ailure> actually I never managed to make it reach max speed
17:18:21  <Ailure> but I do it now
17:18:22  <Ailure> XD
17:22:20  <Ailure> damn
17:22:24  <Ailure> it goes from one side of the map
17:22:25  <Ailure> to another
17:22:31  <Ailure> before it speeds up to the max
17:22:42  <Ailure> of a 256x256 map
17:22:43  <hylje> :o
17:22:45  <Ailure> needs as much to brake too
17:22:47  <Ailure> lol
17:22:56  <Ailure> Ironically
17:23:01  <Ailure> signals stops trains instantly
17:23:03  <Ailure> no matter what
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17:23:23  <Ailure> which is a bit unrealistic
17:23:37  <Ailure> especially when it's a maglev who goes from 600 km/h to zero
17:24:22  <Ailure> There wouldn't be any passengers left if that happened in reality :P
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17:39:01  <peter1138> mmm, beer
17:39:22  <ln-> just don't let it reset your connection
17:40:20  <peter1138> indeed
17:44:50  <XeryusTC> muahahaha http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=511978#511978 *takes over the world*
17:44:57  <hylje> mwahahaha
17:45:52  <Ailure> that one gave me a headache
17:45:53  <Ailure> xD
17:46:30  <Ailure> I see that my diamond line is still around too
17:46:37  <LSky`> im still confused peter1138 , does it work in r6994 or does it not?
17:46:45  <LSky`> 4LVw *
17:47:08  <Ailure> I changd my mind and used road vehicles since the train would take a huge detour from there XD
17:47:15  <glx> commit in r6996 so it won't work in r6994
17:47:20  <Ailure> and I didn't want/dare to modify the mainline
17:47:28  <LSky`> okay thanks
17:47:48  <LSky`> is openttd compiled in the weekend?
17:48:03  <glx> every day :)
17:48:41  <LSky`> so somewhere in the next few hours?
17:48:55  <Maedhros> about half an hour, i think
17:48:58  <glx> 20:00 CEST
17:49:38  <glx> now we are in CET so I guess it will start in 10 minutes :)
17:50:57  <peter1138> we aren't
17:51:07  * peter1138 is in GMT
17:51:51  <glx> I'm in the same timezone as compile farm :)
17:53:01  <LSky`> DST thingy occured today right?
17:53:13  <LSky`> what time is it at yours peter1138 ?
17:53:22  <LSky`> its 18:53 here
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17:55:10  <LSky`> hmmm €900,000 profit in the second year
17:55:27  <Sacro> 18:00 UTC afaik
17:55:49  <LSky`> yea but that doesn't say a lot :\
17:55:53  <LSky`> GMT isnt UTC
17:55:58  <Sacro> LSky`: yes it is
17:56:30  <glx> !openttd compile
17:56:31  <_42_> glx: Nightly -> every night at 18:00 UTC
17:56:33  <_42_> glx: MiniIN -> Sun, Tue, Thu at 21:00 UTC
17:56:35  <_42_> glx: utf8 -> Tue, Fri at 01:00 UTC
17:56:37  <_42_> glx: it currently is Sun Oct 29 17:56:31 UTC 2006
17:56:38  <Sacro> :o
17:57:06  <LSky`> UTC isnt GMT :\
17:57:18  <LSky`> theyre not the same
17:57:23  <Sacro> yes they are
17:57:24  <Maedhros> LSky`: yes, it is ;)
17:57:26  * Sacro is in GMT
17:57:28  <LSky`> ...
17:57:30  <Sacro> [17:56] <_42_> glx: it currently is Sun Oct 29 17:56:31 UTC 2006
17:57:30  <Sacro> [17:56] <<Sacro>> :o
17:57:32  <LSky`> no theyre not >:|
17:57:45  <Sacro> then why is my timestamp and the UTC timestamp the same?
17:58:09  <Sacro> LSky`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMT read the first paragraph
17:58:22  <LSky`> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC
17:58:26  <LSky`> read the 6th
17:58:26  <LSky`> :D
17:58:29  <Sacro> It is now often used to refer to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) when this is viewed as a time zone
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17:59:46  <LSky`> For most practical and legal-trade purposes, the fractional difference between UTC and UT (or GMT) is inconsequentially small, and for this reason UTC is colloquially called GMT sometimes, even if this is not technically correct.
17:59:47  <LSky`> :)
17:59:52  <LSky`> either way
17:59:54  <Sacro> LSky`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B0
17:59:56  <LSky`> thats not really important
18:00:04  <Sacro> its within a few seconds
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18:01:00  <LSky`> either way!
18:01:08  <LSky`> compiling starts now?
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18:07:40  <Eddi|zuHause> according to my knowledge, the nightly is compiled at 20:00 server time
18:07:47  <Eddi|zuHause> that would be CET right now
18:08:01  <LSky`> and its 19:00 CET
18:08:13  <LSky`> if the server correctly updated DST
18:08:37  <Eddi|zuHause> bäh, YaST is one stupid program...
18:09:11  <Eddi|zuHause> it downloads packet descriptions in at least 20 languages that i do not speak...
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18:09:38  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: the server will use UTC
18:09:59  <Eddi|zuHause> not according to what truelight told
18:10:22  <Sacro> i make it 1162145416
18:10:46  <Sacro> or almost @800
18:11:21  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: the nightly is compiled at 18:00 UTC
18:11:33  <Eddi|zuHause> if the server did that, it would already be compiled
18:11:45  <Sacro> hmm... your right
18:11:46  <Eddi|zuHause> but it doesn't, because it does it 20:00 local time
18:11:56  <Eddi|zuHause> and that is in 49 minutes
18:11:57  <Sacro> it always used to be 18:00 UTC
18:12:04  <Eddi|zuHause> no, it was not
18:12:24  <Sacro> !openttd compile
18:12:25  <_42_> Sacro: Nightly -> every night at 18:00 UTC
18:12:27  <_42_> Sacro: MiniIN -> Sun, Tue, Thu at 21:00 UTC
18:12:29  <_42_> Sacro: utf8 -> Tue, Fri at 01:00 UTC
18:12:31  <_42_> Sacro: it currently is Sun Oct 29 18:12:24 UTC 2006
18:12:39  <Sacro> that needs changing then
18:12:44  <Eddi|zuHause> that one is wrong ;)
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18:12:52  <Sacro> to 19:00 UTC?
18:13:03  <glx> Sacro: the first version of this message said 20:00 UTC :)
18:13:20  <Sacro> glx: ive never seen it until today
18:13:23  <Sacro> and im already confused
18:13:24  <glx> then I said to TL it was 20:00 CEST
18:13:37  <glx> so it changed it to say 18:00 UTC
18:13:47  <glx> but it's still wrong it seems :)
18:13:49  <Eddi|zuHause> that is only correct half of the time ;)
18:13:53  <LSky`> =D
18:13:58  <Sacro> glx: hmm, confusing
18:14:16  <Sacro> i like UTC cos i live in it half the year
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18:16:46  <Sacro> 2038-01-19T03:14:07Z <- this could cause trouble
18:19:32  <Sacro> Using a (signed) 64-bit value introduces a new wraparound date in about 290 billion years, on Sunday, December 4, 292,277,026,596. However, this problem is not widely regarded as a pressing issue.
18:19:33  <Sacro> rofl
18:20:13  <Eddi|zuHause> not until the "Year 2k38 Bug" hype ;)
18:21:05  <Born_Acorn> peter1138! stuff!
18:21:33  <Sacro> and then 2048 for windows
18:21:42  <Sacro> cos isnt their epoch in 1980>
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18:22:05  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know...
18:23:27  <Naksu> FAT epoch is 1980
18:23:32  <Naksu> but it goes on to 2107
18:23:41  <Naksu> windows epoch is in 1601
18:23:44  <Eddi|zuHause> unsigned?
18:24:37  <LSky`> lol.
18:25:28  <Naksu> no idea, but it's on 100 nanosecond ticks
18:26:38  <Sacro> err.. what happens in 6 years 53 days?
18:27:04  <peter1138> Born_Acorn: muff!
18:27:08  <Born_Acorn> :O
18:27:12  <Born_Acorn> moob-head!
18:27:13  <Sacro> Dec 21 2012 00:00:01
18:27:49  <peter1138> 2012-12-21 ?
18:27:54  <peter1138> is that special?
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18:28:12  <LSky`> why would my WLAN driver use more then 120MB of RAM?
18:28:18  <Born_Acorn> 6/6/66 is worse!
18:28:19  <LSky`> seems a bit odd
18:28:29  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it's JAVA based ;)
18:28:50  <Eddi|zuHause> A.D. 2101 ;)
18:28:50  <hylje> LSky`: memory leaks
18:29:00  <Born_Acorn> It could be JAVA based and have NPF on while using ships.
18:29:15  <Sacro> 2012-12-22 Sat - World may end Fri/Sat/Sun - see 2023-12-23
18:29:27  <Sacro> ah... just the end of the world
18:29:33  * Sacro considers dropping uni
18:29:39  <LSky`> hmm
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18:30:21  <LSky`> "Amsterdamn Docks no longer accepts goods"
18:30:22  <LSky`> >:|
18:30:35  <LSky`> minus the n that is
18:30:52  <Ailure> That's when you fund new buildings
18:31:03  <LSky`> well the good thing is
18:31:15  <LSky`> the ship first ship wont arrive for another 2 months
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18:31:30  <Ailure> could also check
18:31:33  <Sacro> 1999-13-01 Sat?- Reported as sighted as a Netware file date. Watch out for such dates in data.
18:31:36  <Ailure> if you can expand the station range
18:31:58  <LSky`> it accepts goods again :P
18:32:03  <Ailure> heh
18:32:10  <Ailure> after the city grown a bit
18:32:11  <LSky`> ships make insane profit
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18:32:14  <Ailure> which I think it does from goods
18:32:21  <Ailure> it shouldn't be a problem D:
18:32:24  <LSky`> yea i put some busses in it too
18:33:03  <LSky`> lol company value at 3M in year 3 xD
18:33:12  <LSky`> oh 4, well almost
18:33:18  <Ailure> heh
18:33:19  <hylje> not too bad
18:33:23  <Ailure> I like watching my company value
18:33:23  <Ailure> <.<
18:33:29  <hylje> ottdcoop gets some funny company values
18:33:33  <LSky`> who needs trains when you have ships :D
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18:33:56  <LSky`> all im using now is 4 oil rigs
18:34:02  <LSky`> one oil refinery
18:34:05  <LSky`> and one goods dropoff
18:34:31  <hylje> company vale of 1,22 billion £
18:34:35  <Ailure> http://194.47.44.243/Kitty%20Transport,%2026th%20May%201984.png
18:34:38  <LSky`> 6 goods ships, but the first isnt even at 25% of the route :p
18:34:40  <Ailure> I gotten some funny patterns
18:34:48  <LSky`> hahaha
18:34:49  <Ailure> becuse I tend to invest in industries when I have too much money
18:35:05  <hylje> aaaaaaaaa
18:35:06  <LSky`> as we can see in that picture :D
18:35:23  <XeryusTC> muahahaha http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=511978#511978 *takes over the world*
18:35:24  <hylje> well, rather use that money to get more money
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18:35:30  <XeryusTC> take a look at that picture ^^
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18:35:32  <Sacro> # 2008-01-19 Sat - 30 years before 2038-01-19 - mortgage look-ahead?  ooh funny day to buy a house
18:35:49  <hylje> XeryusTC: you seem to repeat yourself
18:35:55  <XeryusTC> i do
18:36:09  <XeryusTC> but it was intentionally ;)
18:36:15  <Ailure> well
18:36:16  <LSky`> LOL!
18:36:21  <Ailure> further into the game you go
18:36:30  <Ailure> the harder it is to waste all the money
18:36:43  <Ailure> especially when you invest in stuff :p
18:36:49  <XeryusTC> nah
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18:36:54  <XeryusTC> just lower all the land to sealevel
18:36:59  <LSky`> :)
18:37:01  <XeryusTC> and then raise it to +1 again ;)
18:37:08  <Ailure> hehe
18:37:10  <Ailure> I did that once
18:37:13  <Ailure> it was amusing
18:37:14  <XeryusTC> after everything is flooded ofcourse
18:37:27  <Ailure> well I left it at sealevel
18:37:31  <Ailure> but this was a game I was bored at
18:37:37  <Sacro> oooh theres a solar eclpise in 2088 and 2090 in england
18:37:39  <Ailure> I protected tracks that would get flooded
18:37:41  <Ailure> but that's about it
18:37:46  <LSky`> ;o
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18:38:46  <Sacro> 2^1E80 approx. - As there are only about 1E80 particles in the observable universe, it has by now become impossible to write the date.
18:38:48  <Sacro> damn :(
18:39:05  <LSky`> lolol
18:39:07  <hylje> :D
18:39:43  <Sacro> i suppose you'd just have to start again
18:40:19  <Ailure> hmm
18:40:22  <Ailure> gonna nap now
18:40:25  <LSky`> lol the ship takes 1 year to reach its destination
18:40:32  <Ailure> heh
18:40:37  <Ailure> I had trains that took 2 years
18:40:45  <Ailure> this was the fastest train too in the UKRS set
18:40:48  <hylje> 1024x1024 ftw
18:40:51  <Zaviori> XeryusTC how is your server?
18:40:58  <Ailure> but it was a flat map 2048x64 XD
18:41:05  <XeryusTC> Zaviori: my dutch server you mean?
18:41:08  <Ailure> The game kept beliving that the trains were lost
18:41:10  <Zaviori> Yes
18:41:11  <hylje> arrr, dutch
18:41:17  <Sacro> ARRRRGHH DUTCH
18:41:19  <XeryusTC> it should do fine
18:41:19  <Zaviori> I will soon be learnin some dutch
18:41:29  * Sacro goes for a walk
18:41:29  <Ailure> Anyway, I'm asleep now
18:41:39  <Zaviori> If that is the only way to be able to play there :<
18:41:40  <Sacro> its almost 7pm i really should be dressed
18:41:40  <XeryusTC> yup, still up and running
18:42:01  <XeryusTC> Zaviori: you could also try to understand my webpage ;)
18:42:05  <LSky`> dutch equals qinning tho
18:42:09  <LSky`> winning*
18:42:10  <Zaviori> What page D:
18:42:59  <XeryusTC> http://xeryustc.cjb.net/ ;)
18:43:34  <LSky`> okay
18:43:45  <LSky`> i thought ships were good for long distance :\
18:43:55  <LSky`> not for goods so it seems
18:43:57  <XeryusTC> ships are good for nothing in ottd
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18:44:29  <LSky`> hmm i usually make more profit with ships then with trains
18:44:34  <LSky`> at least in the early years
18:44:50  <LSky`> they have very low maintenance costs
18:45:28  <LSky`> but i think one year for goods is a bit too long
18:46:17  <Zaviori> So hmmm :D
18:46:39  <Eddi|zuHause> hm... daylength must reduce the transporting income...
18:47:16  <LSky`> yea :D
18:47:48  <LSky`> hmm trains or aircraft
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18:51:00  <LSky`> damnit
18:51:12  <LSky`> station too spread out :|
18:51:45  <LSky`> whats a reasonable number to put in there?
18:52:14  <Eddi|zuHause> i have seen like 40 ;)
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18:52:54  <Eddi|zuHause> but personally, i did not feel the need to change the default yet...
18:53:51  <LSky`> hmm 12 obviously doesnt work for me :(
18:54:09  <CIA-1> miham * r7005 /trunk/lang/brazilian_portuguese.txt:
18:54:09  <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-10-29 19:53:34
18:54:09  <CIA-1> brazilian_portuguese - 1 fixed by tucalipe (1)
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19:47:42  <LSky`> hmmm peter1138 , it still says too many sprites
19:47:58  <LSky`> when i try to use these:
19:47:58  <LSky`> [newgrf]
19:47:58  <LSky`> 4LVw.grf
19:47:58  <LSky`> pb_ukrs.grf
19:47:58  <LSky`> ukrsap1w.grf
19:48:00  <LSky`> pb_av8w.grf
19:48:00  <LSky`> newshipsw.grf
19:48:02  <LSky`> ukwaypointsw.grf
19:48:02  <LSky`> jcindstaw.grf
19:48:04  <LSky`> pb_viaduct.grf
19:51:43  <peter1138> well yes
19:51:50  <ln-> kick requested?
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19:52:53  <hylje> how witty
19:53:35  <smeding> very
19:53:36  <smeding> :>
19:54:38  <Eddi|zuHause> well, he did ask for it ;)
19:57:51  <LSky`> i found a bug tho peter1138
19:58:04  <LSky`> [newgrf]
19:58:04  <LSky`> 4LVw.grf
19:58:04  <LSky`> pb_ukrs.grf
19:58:04  <LSky`> ukrsap1w.grf
19:58:06  <LSky`> pb_av8w.grf
19:58:06  <LSky`> newshipsw.grf
19:58:10  <LSky`> im using these now
19:58:16  <peter1138> uh huh
19:58:17  <LSky`> it runs like it should
19:58:22  <peter1138> but?
19:58:23  <LSky`> except for the following thing
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19:59:41  <LSky`> let me upload a pic
20:00:25  <LSky`> http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i46/LSky187/newshipsforthewin.jpg
20:00:49  <LSky`> wow thats some badass jpeg quality pic :|
20:01:10  <smeding> JESUS TRUCK
20:01:13  <smeding> :o
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20:01:57  <peter1138> ok, i'll take a look
20:02:31  <LSky`> that be cool =)
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20:07:57  <peter1138> ah ha
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20:08:19  <peter1138> it finished compiling ;p
20:11:48  <Eddi|zuHause> instead of a house, you should have bought computer equipment ;)
20:13:34  <peter1138> indeed
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20:27:06  <XeryusTC> hmm
20:27:21  * XeryusTC pokes Darkvater
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20:37:05  <Sacro> So I was thinking, is it possible to make it so that when you have several bridges on tiles next to each other they merge to form a single bridge, and when when you get enough bridges next to each other it becomes a tunnel?
20:37:11  <Sacro> thats a quote btw
20:41:35  <Eddi|zuHause> that would probably be possible (like the function that omits fences between tracks)
20:41:48  <Eddi|zuHause> but it probably would look ugly, since tracks are too far apart
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20:46:02  <aes> Any devs on?
20:47:02  <Sacro> aes: yeah
20:47:54  <aes> Oh, good. I made an amd64 package, but then I saw there were some provisions for doing that with a lot less work / more correctly
20:48:20  <Sacro> ahh, the amd64 debian package
20:48:47  <aes> yes. right, sorry
20:50:10  <aes> The make process is a bit homemade isn't it? I mean it doesn't seem to use the autoobfuscate tools so much..
20:51:02  <Sacro> lol
20:52:59  <aes> autofrob1.3 requires autofnord1.5a requires autoflap 1.3 conflicts autofrob1.3 and fills your Make with unimaginable quantities of unknowns... Yes, that stuff.
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21:02:15  <peter1138> correct
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21:07:41  <Born_Acorn> peter1138! GRF Gui screens!
21:07:47  <peter1138> yes!
21:07:47  <peter1138> what?
21:07:58  <XeryusTC> hmm
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21:15:25  <Wolf01> peter1138! /=====\ <- bridges! XD
21:17:58  <peter1138> yers
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21:23:20  <Wolf01> Frostregen, can you update the adjacent stations patch for miniIN to the version without the alt key?
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21:28:24  <CIA-1> glx * r7006 /branches/MiniIN/order_gui.c: [MiniIN] -Fix: crash when opening non sister company vehicles' order window
21:36:23  <CIA-1> glx * r7007 /branches/MiniIN/ (55 files in 4 dirs): [MiniIN] -Sync with trunk r6946:r7005
21:39:02  <Sacro> :O GLX
21:39:06  * Sacro hugs glx
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21:54:04  <jez> Anyone have admin access for the OpenTTD Subversion server?
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21:54:35  <Sacro> jez: yes
21:54:39  <jez> Who
21:54:46  <Sacro> Truelight
21:54:49  <jez> Sacro bleu
21:54:50  <Sacro> seeing as its his server
21:54:56  <jez> who else?
21:55:10  <Sacro> err...
21:55:15  <Sacro> *shrug*
21:55:19  <Sacro> why, what are you afteR?
21:55:36  <jez> changing the SVN hook rule that prevents tab-only lines from being committed
21:55:38  <jez> :-)
21:57:19  <peter1138> ///
21:57:21  <peter1138> er
21:57:22  <peter1138> ...
21:57:47  <peter1138> why?
21:57:59  <Wolf01> gnight
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21:58:05  <XeryusTC> gn
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22:17:21  <peter1138> hmm
22:17:25  <peter1138> nini
22:22:45  <Born_Acorn> ni!
22:22:46  <Born_Acorn> ni!
22:23:07  <Eddi|zuHause> www.knights-who-say.ni
22:23:20  <glx> ni
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22:24:44  <Eddi|zuHause> there we have a translator :)
22:24:53  <Neonox> *me runs away
22:24:59  * Neonox runs away
22:26:22  <Tron> there's the culprit!
22:26:26  <Tron> get him!
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22:29:21  <Neonox> help!!!!   please remove the knife from my back!!!
22:29:22  <Neonox> ARGH!
22:29:52  <Tron> that's not knife
22:30:01  <Tron> just a very rusty axe
22:30:08  <Tron> s/not/no/
22:31:49  <jez> tron
22:32:27  <peter1138> dr scott!
22:45:21  <Born_Acorn> nni my arse
22:45:27  <Born_Acorn> *nini
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22:46:23  <ln-> thanks
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22:48:06  <Eddi|zuHause> that took you long enough ;)
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