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00:02:19 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9424 /trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): -Merge: Release changes from 0.5 branch back to trunk. 00:02:40 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:03:17 <michi_cc> Rubidium: 9814b6b0e3c67bd886d252ab2cfb0b30 http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/openttd-0.5.1-RC2-win64.zip 00:03:47 <Rubidium> thanks michi_cc 00:06:05 <michi_cc> no problem 00:06:15 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:59 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:11:28 <Belugas> i'm going home now... pissed off and tired 00:11:31 <Belugas> night guyes 00:11:40 <Rubidium> night Belugas 00:16:01 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:16:57 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.146] has joined #openttd 00:20:28 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:23:39 *** michi_cc is now known as michi_cc-away 00:26:52 *** Rens2Eat [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 00:27:30 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:19 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 00:35:45 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:37:51 *** Sacro_ [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:37:51 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41:52 * GhostBear falled down asleep 00:41:53 *** GhostBear is now known as GhostBear[Corpse] 01:03:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:04:10 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac5072.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17:53 *** Sacro_ [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:55 *** Sacro__ [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 01:50:28 *** Sacro__ [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55:09 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:03:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57a1ce8d.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:52 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.229] has joined #openttd 02:30:55 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B760CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:30:57 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:20 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54b7516f.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:30 *** NiceBook [NiceBook@c-121d71d5.013-2011-68736410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:22:30 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:41:16 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:02:53 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-67-220.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:02:53 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-67-220.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:04:00 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-89-217-143-239.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 04:10:00 <DaleStan> TrueBrain: The symlinks to the TTDPatch nightlies in /latest/ appear not to have been created correctly. (The files in /devs/files/ seem to be just fine.) 04:19:07 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:03:25 *** Nigel [~nigel@202.154.148.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:11:54 *** Digitalfox[Home] [~chatzilla@bl7-176-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Time for Sleeping] 05:14:13 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-176-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 05:14:31 *** Digitalfox is now known as Digitalfox[Work] 05:26:41 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:33:20 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.229] has joined #openttd 06:18:44 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:23:03 *** Nigel [~nigel@202.154.148.165] has joined #openttd 06:24:11 *** Nigel is now known as Guest25 07:09:09 *** Guest25 is now known as Nigel 07:28:40 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 07:51:06 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DC78.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:02:06 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:04:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.14.239.243] has joined #openttd 08:04:53 <Wolf01> hello 08:28:25 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 08:32:57 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 08:39:45 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:42:46 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p50909096.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:57:18 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:12:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: celestar * r9425 /trunk/src/ (4 files): 09:12:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Codechange/Fix (FS#689): Housekeeping in the convert rail functions: Changed 09:12:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: the order of error checks to generate more meaningful error messages, added some 09:12:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: doxygen comments and replaced bitshifting by proper mathematical operations 09:14:44 *** michi_cc-away is now known as michi_cc 09:24:59 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 09:27:41 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:39:10 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:55:33 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:56:01 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 10:02:28 <TrueBrain> DaleStan: it all seems fine here, all files and links work.... 10:02:40 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:03:22 <GhostBear[Corpse]> hi 10:03:24 <GhostBear[Corpse]> guys? 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12:40:39 <GhostBear> pom te pom! 12:40:50 <Sacro|Laptop> pom to pom! 12:41:07 <TrueBrain> pompiedom! 12:41:07 <GhostBear> pom from pom? 12:41:10 <TrueBrain> he never learns.... 12:41:52 *** shenjian [~shenjian@222.93.212.250] has joined #openttd 12:47:04 *** neli [micha@h8441250184.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 12:51:29 *** shenjian [~shenjian@222.93.212.250] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:03:05 *** carwe [~carwe@p54B36912.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:09 <DaleStan> TrueBrain: Then you and I must be looking at something different. http://nightly.ttdpatch.net/latest/ reports that everything except changes.log is 0 bytes, and downloading them bears this out. 13:05:07 <DaleStan> (Note: *TTDPatch*, not OpenTTD) 13:14:02 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac751e.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:35 *** carwe [~carwe@p54B36912.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 13:26:49 *** GhostBear is now known as GhostBear[Away] 13:31:24 <Zuu> TrueBrain: A new noai fix and a bug in the noai-thread on the forums. :) 13:46:25 *** maad [~emade@82.160.115.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:20 <TrueBrain> DaleStan: don't let the file-size fool you. They are symlinks, so they show 0bytes. But downloading them works just fine. 14:18:11 <TrueBrain> Zuu: lol, someone forgot the SQ register code again yes ;) 14:19:00 <Maedhros> TrueBrain: i just tried and got a 0 byte file 14:19:03 <TrueBrain> Zuu: I have to make the regressoin tests for AIVehicle. Till then they are untested (all functions). Rubidium makes them without testing, I make the regression which tests them :) 14:19:11 <TrueBrain> hmm... then why do I get a valid file... 14:19:14 <TrueBrain> let me check the internals 14:19:58 <TrueBrain> hmm... the file is indeed 0 bytes 14:20:49 <TrueBrain> haha, disk full 14:20:50 <TrueBrain> oops :) 14:21:16 <Zuu> TrueBrain: :) 14:22:33 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD nightlies consume 23 GiB :p 14:22:37 <TrueBrain> (the archive) 14:24:08 <TrueBrain> DaleStan / Maedhros: problem is fixed 14:26:11 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:26:22 <Zuu> TrueBrain: So Rubidium is lazy, not testing his code or is the work divided like this? ;) 14:26:31 <TrueBrain> more divided like this I guess 14:26:45 <TrueBrain> so I will create the regression for AIVehicle in a moment 14:27:20 <Zuu> I'll be AFK a while, nice weather outdoors. :) 14:27:26 <TrueBrain> hav efun ;) 14:28:46 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD nightlies corrected too 14:30:24 <Maedhros> TrueBrain: it shows the right size on the page, but i still get a 0 byte file :( 14:31:33 <TrueBrain> Maedhros: local cache? 14:31:51 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 14:32:24 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:32:26 <Maedhros> TrueBrain: yeah, probably. the other links work :) 14:32:33 <roboboy> ttdpatch's is definately fixed 14:32:49 * Maedhros disappears into the ether again 14:36:22 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 14:36:46 <TrueBrain> DaleStan: were there so little commits in TTDPatch in this month? 14:38:38 <peter1138> oh ffs 14:38:48 <peter1138> i didn't save my game :/ 14:41:14 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-187-89.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:41:19 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-187-89.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 14:41:43 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9426 /branches/noai/src/ai/ai_squirrel.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: register AIVehicle() for SQ (Zuu) 14:42:14 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9427 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Codechange: remove redundant variable 14:47:39 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 14:49:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57a1ea02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:52:04 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 14:56:34 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9428 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_vehicle.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: FindBestRoadVehicle returned always INVALID_ENGINE. It is more useful to return best_engine ;) 14:56:41 <TrueBrain> Zuu: bug fixed :p 14:56:58 <Patrick> rocks fall. everybody dies. 14:57:40 <neli> noai/src/ai ? :-S 14:58:13 <TrueBrain> which part don't you understand? :) 15:01:14 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-143.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 15:01:38 <neli> sounds confusing :P 15:02:09 <neli> it's a "dummy" AI, I guess? 15:02:51 <TrueBrain> nope 15:03:15 <TrueBrain> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=30933 15:05:10 <neli> is there also a TrueHeart ? 15:05:24 <TrueBrain> who knows.... 15:05:44 <neli> lol @ first reply 15:05:46 <neli> ;) 15:13:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9429 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix r9338: when deleting a vehicle which has shared orders with one more vehicle and no orders, segfaulted 15:14:18 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:16:44 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9430 /branches/0.5/order_cmd.c: [0.5] -Backport r9429: when deleting a vehicle which has shared orders with one more vehicle and no orders, segfaulted 15:16:55 <Mucht> omg what a stupid bug with dbsetxl and train cloning :-/ 15:19:39 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9431 /branches/noai/ (55 files in 8 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync with trunk r9394:9430 15:21:18 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p50909096.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:21:26 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:24:12 *** green_devil [~c@0x5735f02c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 15:24:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9432 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/regression.nut: [NoAI] -Add: added regression-test for AIVehicle() 15:25:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9433 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/regression.txt: [NoAI] -Fix r9432: forgot to update regression.txt 15:26:51 <Patrick> duuude 15:26:55 <Patrick> bridges over sloping rail 15:26:56 <Patrick> perfect 15:27:35 <neli> Patrick: in 0.5.1 ? 15:27:54 <Patrick> well, probably a long time before then 15:27:57 <Patrick> I meant diagonal 15:28:46 <glx> only in trunk for now Patrick 15:32:15 <peter1138> yup 15:32:31 <peter1138> Patrick: don't forget the roads and signals... 15:32:38 <Patrick> road signals ... 15:32:39 <Patrick> jesus 15:32:42 <Patrick> nice work, people 15:32:49 <glx> all but buildings :) 15:33:02 <Patrick> proper bridges make it so much easier to pull off a no-slow feed from a diagonal train line 15:33:10 <Patrick> no more space-wasting tunnels 15:33:28 <Patrick> (I don't use build on slope as it's aesthetically displeasing) 15:33:42 <neli> when do we get single tile tunnels ? ;) 15:34:21 <glx> maybe one day 15:34:38 <neli> s/single tile/& wide/ 15:35:46 <glx> now your sentence doesn't mean anything :) 15:37:28 <glx> hmm I failed to execute sed in my head indeed :D 15:38:03 <SpComb> is & something special? 15:38:21 <glx> it keeps the pattern 15:38:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57a1ea02.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:43 <SpComb> useful 15:39:17 <Patrick> signals on bridges 15:39:22 <Patrick> but that's blatantly not going to happen 15:39:31 <Patrick> unless we do a hack to make bridges take multiple trains 15:39:41 <Patrick> (safely) 15:39:58 <hylje> signals on bridges happens when we can have arbitrary shaped world 15:40:02 <glx> maybe with a tile stack but that is not planned yet 15:40:04 <hylje> with overlapping 15:40:21 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Thanks :) 15:41:40 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:27 <neli> glx: I mean that you need 2 tiles at the ends of tunnel where you can't put track over 15:43:43 <neli> if you've "downed" land for it 15:44:04 *** Viktho1 [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45:12 <peter1138> you can bridge them, iirc 15:46:20 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:37 <Patrick> bizzarely, the auto-refit didn't work for one train 15:48:05 <Patrick> all of my monorail cabins got refitted automatically when I built the vehicle, to carry wood, goods, coal etc instead of pax. This is a surprise but I'm used to it 15:48:12 <Patrick> one of them was still doing pax :/ 15:49:29 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac751e.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:29 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-67-220.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52:12 <neli> peter1138: bridges slow down trains 15:52:38 <neli> would be nice if tunnel tool would also allow to select two pieces of level land, like bridge tool does 16:00:33 <Patrick> has anyone put a lot of thought into balancing the game? 16:00:37 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:01:05 <Patrick> higher running costs, track costs to maintain, etc 16:01:14 <antichaos> peter1138, newgrf_cargo.h is causing problems in MSVC 16:01:33 <antichaos> newgrf_cargo.h(24) : warning C4091: 'typedef ' : ignored on left of 'CargoSpec' when no variable is declared 16:02:11 <Patrick> also, I can't increase the construction cost mid-game, is there a strong technical reason for that? 16:02:37 <Thomas[NL]> does this still apply in openttd? :http://uwe.s2000.ws/ttdx/twoway2.png (Two-Way signals tell a train that there are several equal possibilities to choose from. This means if one exit is red, the train will take the other one. This enables trains to choose any available platform on a station, but do not use this on switches which will go into different directions! 16:02:37 <Thomas[NL]> One-way signals do not allow the train to choose. If the exit that a train has chosen is red, it will not go anywhere else, but stop in front of the red signal, waiting for it to turn green.) 16:02:58 <peter1138> Thomas[NL]: only for the old pathfinder 16:03:11 <Thomas[NL]> ok ty 16:03:24 <Patrick> so on the sane default, I don't need 2-way exit sigs at stations any more? 16:03:30 <Patrick> it's become force of habit building them that way 16:06:02 <peter1138> antichaos: does removing typedef work? 16:06:39 <antichaos> well, then it complains about the next 2 lines - default to int or something 16:06:58 <antichaos> oh, you mean just 'typedef'. one min... 16:07:43 <antichaos> yes, just 'struct CargoSpec' works fine 16:09:37 * antichaos kicks himself for not trying that earlier 16:09:57 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9434 /trunk/src/newgrf_cargo.h: -Fix (r9418): remove typedef from forward declaration to appease MSVC or something 16:10:22 <antichaos> thanks :) 16:12:43 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:24:31 *** green-devil [~c@0x5735f02c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:31:21 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:36:04 <Zuu> TrueBrain: [noai] I see you have not made any regresion-test for order-class. It seams like the AIOrderFlags-enum in src/ai/api/ai_order.hpp is not exported to Squirrel. Even if i send order-flag = '0' (value for _NONE from .hpp-file) I can not add orders to a vehicle. (I have manually checked the other arguments) 16:37:36 <Zuu> But yay, I got busses driving around in a random manner :) 16:37:46 <Zuu> With a shared empty order :) 16:43:05 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:32 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:00:20 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:30 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:01:55 *** graeme [~chatzilla@cpc1-stkp1-0-0-cust109.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:02:19 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489F733.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:06:38 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489F357.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:13:47 *** mode/#openttd [+nt] by ChanServ 17:13:50 *** mode/#openttd [-o peter1138] by ChanServ 17:24:05 <Patrick> you have no idea how much easier it is to make zero-slowdown junctions with diagonals-under-bridges 17:24:24 <Patrick> giant looping messes turn into a squat Y with only two five-tile unsignalled stretches 17:24:37 <Patrick> bish bash bosh, tis a thing of beauty 17:30:27 *** GhostBear[Away] is now known as GhostBear 17:30:32 <GhostBear> re 17:35:22 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 17:38:53 *** graeme [~chatzilla@cpc1-stkp1-0-0-cust109.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007022001]] 17:49:19 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:49:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:06:33 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176107139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:09:20 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176107072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:10 *** llugo [~lugo@pd9583766.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:01 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9583227.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:05 <Ailure> hmm 18:22:19 <Ailure> what's the best program for editing pxc files from grfcodec? 18:23:14 <DaleStan> Ailure: I use GIMP. Others use Paintshop (I think) or IrfanView. 18:27:17 <Ailure> I attempted using photoshop, but it was like using a nuclear weapon for hunting 18:28:02 <glx> anyway you need a program that doesn't mess up the palette 18:28:13 <Ailure> which photoshop probably would do 18:28:16 <Ailure> which is why I don't trust it 18:28:25 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498f547.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:28:34 <Ailure> I thought irfanview was mostly for image viewing and batch editing 18:29:29 <peter1138> other use ms paint, heh 18:29:31 <peter1138> +s 18:29:35 <Ailure> amd them there 18:29:39 <Ailure> there's the fact 18:29:45 <Ailure> that photoshop just sucks at pixel art 18:29:53 <Ailure> I can understand why people use paint heh 18:30:01 <Ailure> but I would have to convert to BMP first 18:30:10 <Ailure> as MS paint on Windows dosent' support PCX anymore 18:30:18 <peter1138> oh 18:30:20 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-53-215.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:30:27 <Ailure> Windows XP that is 18:30:32 <Ailure> I remember it uspported on older versions 18:30:35 <Ailure> but it was dropped along the way 18:31:16 <Ailure> I would kill for a MS paint like program 18:31:19 <Ailure> with advanced features 18:31:25 <Ailure> but not as heavy as photoshop or GIMP 18:31:42 <neli> Patrick: screenshot, screenshot! :-) 18:34:02 <Ailure> Letsee if I manage to do something simple 18:34:06 <Ailure> without messing up the palette 18:35:13 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:35:13 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:50 *** Digitalfox[Work] [~chatzilla@bl7-176-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:36:00 *** Digitalfox is now known as Digitalfox[Work] 18:42:39 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Words get written, words get twisted, old meanings change in the drift of time.] 18:42:43 <Ailure> wooh 18:42:44 <Ailure> palette was ok 18:42:55 <hylje> woosh 18:44:17 <Patrick> neli: I'll do a wiki page on updated junctions when I cba 18:44:45 <Ailure> http://194.47.44.229/grid.png 18:44:47 <Ailure> ; 18:44:53 <neli> Patrick: 'cba' ? 18:44:54 <Ailure> :o 18:45:02 <Patrick> can be arsed 18:45:12 <Patrick> I kinda twisted the usual meaning 18:45:23 <Patrick> Ailure: oo 18:45:31 <Ailure> lol 18:45:34 <Ailure> it was only a quick test 18:45:49 <Ailure> to see if I could make some graphics without breaking it xD 18:45:51 <neli> what does it display ? 18:46:12 <Ailure> nothing special really 18:46:27 <Ailure> replaced the default grass tile with a even more boring tile 18:46:34 <peter1138> somehow it makes me think "buffering..." 18:46:40 <Ailure> xD 18:46:40 <peter1138> either that or something from tron 18:46:49 <Ailure> I actually thought on making a tron like terrain 18:47:02 <Ailure> although I probably wouln't call it tron :P 18:47:14 <Ailure> more like "teh internets" but someone probably would be smacking me with a cane if I said that out loud 18:47:25 <hylje> TEH INTERNETS 18:47:47 <hylje> that would be kind of cool 18:47:53 <hylje> you would build tubes 18:47:55 <Ailure> yeah 18:48:07 <Ailure> and there would be all kind of intresting industries 18:48:08 <Ailure> :o 18:48:25 <hylje> internet culture ftw 18:48:39 <hylje> the economy would be somewhat different too 18:49:42 <Ailure> yeah 18:49:51 <Ailure> and referring cargo was packets maybe 18:49:54 <Ailure> *as 18:50:48 <hylje> would need a different cargo engine 18:50:57 <hylje> to have only one type of cargo with more conditions 18:52:37 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 18:52:45 *** setrodox__ [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 18:52:46 <Ailure> well hehe 18:52:51 <Ailure> I might keep continuing 18:53:01 <Ailure> only to see how it winds up looking like xD 18:53:09 <Patrick> hehe 18:53:10 <Ailure> although i'm not sure if I should keep to the blue grid 18:53:16 <Ailure> I kinda took a color from the palette at random 18:53:33 <Patrick> towns become residential ISPs and passengers become p2p traffic 18:53:41 <Patrick> hmm, no 18:53:53 <hylje> towns produce packets 18:53:59 <hylje> and industries eat them to produce stuff 18:54:22 <Ailure> I wonder if I should just replace water with a black void 18:54:30 <hylje> yeah 18:54:31 <hylje> void 18:54:31 <hylje> ftw 18:55:08 <Patrick> are autosignals still being maintained at all? 18:55:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> you could transport ACK packages and stuff ;( 18:55:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> ;) 18:55:49 <hylje> :> 18:56:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Ailure> I remember it uspported on older versions <- paintbrush on win 3.11 was the last one to support PCX, paint on win95 didn't 18:56:52 <Ailure> Well if I do base it on internets 18:57:01 <Ailure> it probably would be based more on internet culture than technical correctness :P 18:57:06 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9435 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Fix (r8972): ensure the cargo payment graph is at least 12 "items" high 18:57:24 *** Purno [~Purno@5351C3E7.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:26 <Patrick> I lamented the lack of autosignals, it's so gorram painful doing them all manually 18:58:38 <Ailure> mm 18:58:42 <Ailure> I remember that patch 18:58:44 <Patrick> did hackykid ever come back? 18:58:48 <Ailure> very useful indeed 18:59:01 <Ailure> Very useful 18:59:14 <Ailure> sometimes i'm like "durrr, I just finished this network but I have to do the signalling now" 18:59:31 <Patrick> hehe 18:59:43 <Ailure> I onyly do signalling at key points when building a network 18:59:51 <Ailure> and then bother with signal-spamming after i'm done laying down the rails 19:00:39 <Patrick> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25486&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40 19:00:49 <Patrick> someone updated it to revision 9040-something 19:00:53 <Patrick> here's hoping it applies 19:01:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Patrick> has anyone put a lot of thought into balancing the game? <- http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/the-future.pdf (and the gamebalance branch) 19:02:03 <Digitalfox[Work]> In what year do banks appear in temperate climate? Yes for a bank to appear the town has to have a population of 1200, but is there any other condicions, like a year for them starting to appear? 19:02:54 <Ailure> luck? 19:03:02 <Ailure> They're like, quite rare. :/ 19:03:46 <Digitalfox[Work]> Yes, but is there a year also? 19:04:38 <Patrick> I like 19:04:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> the safest thing to get to know that would be the source code 19:05:45 <Patrick> doing for a build now 19:09:14 <Patrick> Ailure: it works 19:09:36 <Patrick> we're going to be a lot faster at networking :> 19:09:55 <Patrick> just another step towards the "play ottd for me" menu button 19:11:41 <GhostBear> Bye all ^^ 19:11:42 <Ailure> hehe 19:11:52 <Ailure> we used to make a such joke in the ROM hacking community 19:11:57 <Ailure> against people who were hacking SMW 19:12:07 <Ailure> some of them were the "Do the hack for me" types 19:12:09 *** GhostBear [~b@217-116-141-36-xdsl-dynamic.kuzbass.net] has quit [Quit: ...:::Clonk for ever:::... Cult of clonk _] 19:12:20 <Ailure> so we made fake screenshots with a "Do the hack for me" button in lunar magic 19:12:26 <Ailure> (a SMW editor we have) 19:12:38 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:15:07 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:08 *** Sacro__ [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:19:29 *** Sacro_ [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:19:29 *** Sacro__ [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:16 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 19:22:53 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:24:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57a1ea02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:50 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:37:36 <ln-> http://photos1.blogger.com/photoInclude/x/blogger/6052/1754/1600/577712/best%20quote%20ever.jpg 19:42:13 <peter1138> hrh 19:52:00 *** imaginner [~dominik@aclr91.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:52:14 <imaginner> hey there 19:52:59 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:53:22 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:57:40 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b80b17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:26 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:58:26 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:16 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-088-064-165-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:27 <dihedral> q: npf vs yapf? 20:00:06 <Zuu> I'd use ypaf 20:00:48 <dihedral> yeah - i do, just bein curious :-) 20:00:49 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84349.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:00:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:07:08 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489F733.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:42 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 20:09:48 <imaginner> npf is waaay slower 20:10:12 <imaginner> takes to much time to compute on larger games 20:13:07 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:14:56 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3E257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:27 <dihedral> what about the no 90 deg trun fro trains 20:16:38 <dihedral> it sais in the patches window it requires npf 20:16:47 <dihedral> so it will not work with yapf? 20:17:09 <KUDr> it will work 20:17:29 *** Sacro__ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:17:35 <dihedral> and it will use yapf instead of npf? 20:18:03 <KUDr> if you switch yapf on for trains... 20:18:45 <dihedral> great - thanks a lot 20:20:14 *** Tron [~tron@p54a3e32b.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:41 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498f72b.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:21 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:19 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 20:31:57 *** Digitalfox[Work] is now known as Digitalfox 20:32:11 *** Digitalfox is now known as Digitalfox[Work] 20:34:08 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-088-064-165-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 20:37:12 <Zuu> an accidental ; after an if-statement is evil! :) 20:38:52 <peter1138> :D 20:43:20 <Zuu> Perhaps warning formating of ; after if- and for-statements should be added to VIM highlightning in c++, c, squirriel :) 20:45:51 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:55:00 <Zuu> Is it a feature that the WM don't receive key-combinations when OpenTTD is in fast mode? ;) Such as the Ctrl+Alt+C for closing the OpenTTD window in WMII. 20:56:01 *** Sacro__ is now known as Sacro 20:56:08 <Zuu> hmm.. Shift+Alt+C it is.. but that doesn't matter :) 21:01:51 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:07 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DC78.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:20 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-52-231.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:37:40 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.11/2007031202]] 21:41:59 <Zuu> Weird, my local variable in a function magically have a value second time the function is called. 21:42:34 <Zuu> The squirrel docs don't make me more clever.. :/ 21:43:05 <Zuu> The variable is a class instance.. 21:44:22 *** green-devil [~c@0x5735f02c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 21:44:23 *** furdude2 [~furdude2@dialup-4.245.80.162.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net] has joined #openttd 21:45:26 <Sacro> !seen Bjarni 21:45:29 <_42_> Sacro, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 21:45:45 * Bjarni recommends glasses for Sacro 21:46:24 <Sacro> Bjarni: im waiting for my new ones... i was in the hospital yesterday about my eyes also 21:47:05 <Bjarni> because you kept seeing people watching you? 21:48:08 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/65775 21:48:47 *** imaginner [~dominik@aclr91.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Opuszczanie] 21:48:57 *** furdude2 [~furdude2@dialup-4.245.80.162.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net] has quit [] 21:50:17 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/81109 <--- ROFL 21:50:34 <Bjarni> 120..... and failed to solve this one... somehow that doesn't add up 21:50:36 <peter1138> uh oh, it's quote site time 21:51:19 <Zuu> hhmm lesson to learn ALWAYS reset all class-variables using a constructor in Squirrel, else random magic appears. :p 21:52:43 <Rubidium> just means that squirrel doesn't NULL variable like C/C++ 21:53:12 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-110-194.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 21:56:03 <Zuu> Rubidium: Yes, what's a bit comfusing is that when you declare class-variables you can and have to give them a value (null is okay). But this is only given first time an instance of the class is created for a given local variable... or something like that. 21:57:03 <Zuu> So you need to have a constructor that resets the member-variables if you want to be sure they are cleared. 21:58:18 <Zuu> I made a class for sorting my green-list in my path-finders and it was keept between different runs of the path-finder-function which lead to weird results. 21:59:11 <Rubidium> so we can say that Squirrel is pretty-C++ like as it doesn't NULL anything 21:59:22 <Zuu> yep 22:15:12 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-67-220.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:15:53 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 22:18:27 <Ailure> oh god 22:18:38 <Ailure> after seeing someone cutting down a mountain with a really steep canyon 22:18:50 <Ailure> I really really wish for a mudslide disaster xD 22:19:11 <hylje> totally 22:19:33 <hylje> i recall one oldie game which involved things like that 22:19:48 <hylje> the ground was volatile and required concrete to stay in shape 22:20:47 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B760CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:00 <Ailure> heh 22:21:10 <Ailure> maybe a such disaster is something I should look into <_< 22:25:09 <peter1138> Ailure: i can't reproduce fs 704... 22:25:24 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 22:25:28 <Ailure> oh which one? 22:25:51 <Ailure> the autoreplace bug? 22:26:34 <Ailure> are you srue you have no grf's loaded? 22:26:43 <Ailure> It dosen't crash in certain situations I discovered 22:26:55 <peter1138> yes, no grfs 22:27:04 <peter1138> lol 22:27:04 <Ailure> odd 22:27:08 <Ailure> I tried with r9435 22:27:10 <Ailure> crash in same situation 22:27:11 <Ailure> windows 22:27:12 <peter1138> it crashed opening up the newgrf window though :p 22:27:30 <Ailure> "A easy way of reproducing bug is simple starting in temperate at year 1970, build a bus and then open up the autoreplace window for road vehicle. The game will crash instantly usually." 22:27:34 <Ailure> You did that and it didn't crash? 22:27:34 <Ailure> odd 22:27:44 <hylje> note the "usually" 22:28:04 <Ailure> eh it's just my english <_< 22:28:08 <Ailure> for me it's a guranteed crash 22:28:17 <Ailure> but it only seems to happen with a certain amount of vehicles 22:28:18 <Ailure> like 22:28:22 <Ailure> with aviator aircraft set 22:28:29 <Ailure> opening autoreplace year 1920 leads to a crash 22:28:37 <Ailure> but it's safe on year 1960 for some reason 22:28:52 <peter1138> some buffer overflow somewhere i guess 22:29:15 <peter1138> or somesuch 22:29:31 <Ailure> happens with aircraft as well 22:29:32 <Ailure> in 1950 22:29:35 <Ailure> with orginal aircraft 22:29:37 <Ailure> just tested 22:29:46 <Ailure> it says 22:29:49 <Ailure> "Assertion failed" too 22:29:58 <Ailure> I should have included error message when I think on it 22:30:17 <Ailure> but I made the assumption it was easily reproducable << 22:30:35 <Ailure> "Assertion failed!" 22:30:37 <hylje> nice, r9435 crashes upon multiplayer game 22:30:54 <Ailure> "file /*stuff*/engine.h" 22:31:00 <Ailure> eh whatever 22:31:02 <Ailure> I just screenshot it 22:31:40 <Ailure> http://194.47.44.229/autoreplacecrash.PNG 22:32:38 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:32:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.14.239.243] has quit [] 22:34:20 <peter1138> again, doesn't crash for me 22:34:33 <Mucht> revision 9435 totally crashes on multiplayer, serversided 22:34:34 <peter1138> there is a problem, but reproducing it is... not easy 22:34:42 <peter1138> Mucht: doing what? 22:35:16 <Ailure> peter1138, what OS aer you running on? 22:35:16 <Ailure> :/ 22:35:21 <peter1138> linux 22:35:22 <hylje> peter1138: upon joining the game 22:35:30 <Ailure> hmm 22:35:38 <Ailure> Well I'It's odd then 22:35:52 <Ailure> if it's a platform spefic error 22:35:55 <peter1138> MP also works for me 22:36:04 <Ailure> MP works with r9401 22:36:10 <Ailure> we are just avoiding autoreplace on road vehicels xD 22:36:39 <TrueBrain> [17:36] <Zuu> TrueBrain: [noai] I see you have not made any regresion-test for order-class. It seams like the AIOrderFlags-enum in src/ai/api/ai_order.hpp is not exported to Squirrel. Even if i send order-flag = '0' (value for _NONE from .hpp-file) I can not add orders to a vehicle. (I have manually checked the other arguments) <- that is currently my next project, getting enums pretty :) 22:37:03 <peter1138> hylje/mucht, anything more than "crashes" ? 22:37:14 <Mucht> peter1138: the server just exits 22:37:17 <Mucht> on join 22:37:23 <Mucht> before one receives the first byte 22:37:34 <Mucht> we use a specific grf set, will test if it is responsible for that 22:37:43 <Mucht> but 9435 is unplayable for us 22:37:50 <Ailure> seams? 22:37:58 <Ailure> oh 22:38:16 <Ailure> peter1138: Anything spefic I should try? 22:38:35 <Mucht> 9413 works 22:38:48 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:40:42 <Mucht> we have to care about train 0 all the time in r9413 :-P 22:41:05 <peter1138> means nothing to me 22:42:18 <peter1138> what resolution is it set to? 22:45:48 *** green-devil [~c@0x5735f02c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:46:45 <peter1138> hello? 22:48:18 <TrueBrain> the number you dialed is currently not available. Please try again later. 22:53:32 <guru3> not Please hang up and try again. 22:53:34 <guru3> :/ 22:53:40 <guru3> that's what they say in the US 22:53:48 <TrueBrain> I don't live there :p 22:53:59 <guru3> >< 22:54:00 <guru3> touche 22:54:06 <guru3> with the accent on the e 22:54:22 <TrueBrain> I understood, don't worry :) 22:54:32 <guru3> without the accent 22:54:38 <guru3> it comes out rhyming with douche 22:54:45 <guru3> which isn't what i meant -_- 22:54:54 <guru3> curse you you foul miscommunication 22:55:01 <TrueBrain> which of course depends very much on how you prenounce it :) 22:55:10 <guru3> indeed 22:56:13 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-143.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:36 <peter1138> have an é 22:56:43 <guru3> and i just realized that i appear in random places when you search for my name and openttd 22:56:47 <guru3> and no weird charsets peter 23:03:40 * Sacro|Laptop slaps guru3 23:03:55 <Sacro|Laptop> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Bridges <- i HAET "gotten" 23:04:50 <guru3> oh that 23:05:02 <guru3> at the time there was a big push for writing wiki bits 23:05:08 <guru3> so for some reason i wound up writing that 23:06:39 <guru3> happy now Sacro? 23:09:01 <Zuu> [noai] Hmm. I think my road-buildier is to brave by asuming it don't build past it's target.. => if it does (which it does often) it just continues futher away... :p 23:09:42 <Zuu> Out of 5-8 times one succeded to connect the two towns. :) 23:10:01 <TrueBrain> I don't get Zuu :p 23:10:25 <Rubidium> his roadbuilder is not connecting towns when it should do most of the time 23:10:42 <TrueBrain> tnx for the translation :) 23:11:33 <Zuu> I though I should not use a full A* as it would eat to much memmory, so I tried something without a green-list, and with some other parts missing. :) 23:12:06 <TrueBrain> :) I will show you a nice A* implementation soon ;) 23:12:15 <TrueBrain> works very fast, and gives impressive results 23:12:26 <TrueBrain> only bridges and tunnels are a true bitch (as you might now, bridges are cheaper to build then road) 23:12:37 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:12:51 <Zuu> I did not knew that bridges where cheeper. 23:12:58 <TrueBrain> then you do now :p 23:13:13 <TrueBrain> so my first road-pathfinder ever 23:13:17 <TrueBrain> had more bridges then anything else 23:13:19 <TrueBrain> REALLY ugly 23:13:22 <TrueBrain> really useless 23:13:26 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Do you have a low or zero cost for using existing roads? 23:13:37 <Zuu> TrueBrain: :) 23:13:40 <TrueBrain> Zuu: even better: a bonus for using existing road 23:13:46 <Zuu> Cool. 23:13:51 <TrueBrain> which gives _very_ nice road networks, as it connects any towns in between ;) 23:13:56 <TrueBrain> F and G value of A* rules :) 23:14:14 <Zuu> Yes they are nice :) 23:14:34 <TrueBrain> euh, and H value of course :p 23:14:35 <TrueBrain> lol 23:14:39 * Zuu tries to remember which was what of F,G,H.. :) 23:14:47 <Zuu> But G is go-cost at least. 23:15:04 <Zuu> and H must then be distance from start-point. 23:15:10 <TrueBrain> H is distance to end-point 23:15:16 <Zuu> Okay. :) 23:15:23 <TrueBrain> G is build-costs yes 23:15:28 <TrueBrain> F is preset 23:15:39 <TrueBrain> I gave that a value once, forgot all about it :p 23:16:18 * TrueBrain sends Zuu a secret url with the old code for the pathfinder I once created :) 23:16:19 <Zuu> Perhaps I should read my own report about A* I wrote in high school :p 23:16:25 <TrueBrain> hehe :) 23:16:31 <TrueBrain> or just the comments in aystar.h 23:16:44 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 23:17:19 <TrueBrain> anyway, a good RoadPF is hard to create, so many things to consider 23:17:26 <TrueBrain> and then I am not even talking about allowing terraforming 23:17:41 <glx> train pf is harder 23:17:47 <TrueBrain> which I still doesn't see happening :) I wonder how long it will take for someone to come up with a good idea for that ;) 23:17:57 <peter1138> mucht/hylje: no answer? 23:17:58 <TrueBrain> glx: just more directions 23:18:24 <TrueBrain> it only becomes really hard if you want to allow sharing tracks, or want tracks to be close together 23:18:25 <TrueBrain> so real networking 23:18:33 <TrueBrain> but I am sure someone comes around and makes it ;) 23:18:39 <TrueBrain> s/makes/creates/ 23:19:09 <TrueBrain> but oaky, first things first 23:19:37 <Zuu> TrueBrain: I found a nice issue, when building only one step each time, you can get into situations when you cant get down-hill on situations where it would work if you drag from before the slope to after the slope. 23:19:53 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 23:19:55 <TrueBrain> because it builds from center to center, yes 23:20:06 <Zuu> Yes 23:20:12 <TrueBrain> disable build-on-slopes solves it ;) 23:20:18 <Zuu> Okay :) 23:20:21 <TrueBrain> hehe 23:20:25 <TrueBrain> no, really tricky stuff that is 23:20:41 <TrueBrain> therefor it might be useful to add a function that builds from side to side 23:20:41 * Zuu wonders who would ever play with build-on-slopes off... :) 23:20:53 <TrueBrain> people who think it is 'ugly' 23:20:54 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Yes that could be usefull. 23:21:14 <glx> or maybe a param to buildroad() to define center to center or not 23:21:29 <TrueBrain> glx: comes down to the same, but yes :) 23:21:56 <TrueBrain> t 23:22:01 <TrueBrain> grr @ t 23:22:17 <TrueBrain> okay, first job tomorrow: enums to SQ. Is going to be fun fun fun! 23:22:18 <glx> the first version of buildroad was a mix of center to center and full road 23:22:21 <TrueBrain> for now I wish you all a good night :) 23:22:29 <TrueBrain> hehe, true glx :) 23:22:40 <TrueBrain> peter1138: they are hiding from you :p 23:23:52 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:26 <Ailure> ok 23:24:29 <Ailure> the world recession 23:24:32 <Ailure> is it counted as a economy change 23:24:34 <Ailure> or as a disaster? 23:24:35 <peter1138> maybe it was a difficult question 23:26:48 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.131] has joined #openttd 23:27:37 <Zuu> Another thing that would be good is a function that determinate if two adjacent road-tiles are connected or not. My road-scanning algorithms that scan tough (city-)roads get fooled sometimes by adjacent roads that are not connected. (often it is becasue of build-on-slopes) 23:31:02 <UndernotBuilder> I will try to make a patch: updating the difficulty GUI for fixing that items like amount of towns/industries doesn't get repeated in other windows like the new game one 23:35:23 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:43:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9436 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r9411): don't deactivate GRF in an action 7/9 during reservation (and loading of cargo data), and action 6 should be run also 23:48:21 <UndernotBuilder> anyone knows where are stored the items of difficulty gui? 23:49:03 <glx> in config? 23:55:52 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176107139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 23:56:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54b75e12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd