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OpenTTD: rubidium * r9833 /trunk/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp roadveh_cmd.cpp ship_cmd.cpp): -Fix: also 'leave' the station when leaving for automatic servicing. 08:20:24 <TrueBrain> @op 08:20:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 08:20:27 *** mode/#openttd [+nt] by ChanServ 08:20:28 *** DorpsGek was kicked from #openttd by TrueBrain [Go kick] 08:20:28 *** DorpsGek [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 08:20:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 08:20:30 <TrueBrain> good 08:20:31 <TrueBrain> @deop 08:20:34 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 08:28:17 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489E7CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:33:06 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:35:39 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489DC53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:46:33 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host81-158-240-31.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:48:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 08:48:33 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host81-158-240-31.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 08:53:26 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host81-158-240-31.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:56:30 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:57:47 <boekabart> peter1138: smartass :) 08:58:11 <peter1138> yes 08:58:18 <boekabart> (re forum) 08:59:14 <Rubidium> ofcourse he wants 4 tracks on one tile... and then he's going to complain that 4 trains on one tile doesn't fit or something like that 08:59:19 <peter1138> but other than that, two tiles is a silly idea 08:59:25 <peter1138> err, two tracks on a t ile 08:59:27 <peter1138> - 08:59:51 <boekabart> it's like asking: can we change the scaling of the entire game a bit? 09:00:05 <boekabart> everything twice as large except railroads 09:00:07 <peter1138> the point of the tile is it's the base unit ;) 09:00:35 <boekabart> sounds funny, 'the point of the tile' 09:02:46 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3FFBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:37 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D9EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:14 *** setrodox [setrodox@85-125-223-18.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 09:25:47 *** lolman [~50c14282@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 09:28:09 *** lolman_ [~50c14282@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 09:28:57 *** lolman [~50c14282@webuser.thegrebs.com] has quit [] 09:29:17 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 09:38:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'd like to have tiles half the current size, but the conversion is definitely not trivial 09:38:38 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2: just zoom out one step ;) 09:38:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> haha :p 09:39:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> of course, that is not what i meant :) 09:39:13 <geoffk> move further away formt he screen is easier to implement 09:39:30 <boekabart> and better scaling!! 09:39:31 <boekabart> :) 09:40:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have tried moving away from the screen... the result is, you cannot read anything anymore 09:40:05 <geoffk> lol 09:40:24 <boekabart> try CTRL-D first 09:41:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is not implemented in trunk for linux 09:41:53 <Rubidium> ofcourse nobody seems to care about the fact that splitting all tiles in 4 increases the needed processing power by (at least) 4 too 09:42:00 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: you mean you don't want the 256/512 pixel tiles that the 32bpp artists want? ;) 09:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> 512 pixel? are they insane?... you'd only have 6 tiles on the screen... 09:43:08 <geoffk> Rubidium, good point, thats will make 486's obsolete 09:43:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:43:39 <TrueBrain> I think the only correct answer for Eddi|zuHause2 is: yes 09:43:47 <boekabart> I actually used CTRL-D yesterday... to show my father the DBSetXL ... he's a german train fan but couldn't see well enough on native resolution... 09:44:07 <Rubidium> the real problem I have not seen a substantial increase in core speed of processors (in instructions) for the last few years 09:44:21 * geoffk throws away his 486 09:44:23 <Rubidium> +is 09:44:42 <boekabart> no, they go parallel and openttd doesn't really seem to go that way anytime soon. 09:44:49 <peter1138> tiles will not be split :) 09:45:02 <boekabart> will building become larger then? :) 09:45:07 <boekabart> +s 09:45:12 <peter1138> that is more likely, yes 09:46:04 <boekabart> --- so people will want 4k x 4k maps? 09:46:16 *** kaan [jfk@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 09:46:18 <Rubidium> boekabart: isn't that exactly what I said? The speed of processors per core in instructions hasn't increased substantial over the last few years 09:46:22 <kaan> morning all 09:46:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> geoffk: 486 are obsolete for 10 years already... 09:46:43 <TrueBrain> argh, it seems impossible to install a good upnp (that supports xbox360) on linux... 09:46:43 <peter1138> boekabart: people already want 8k x 8k maps... heh 09:46:49 <boekabart> Rubidium: yes, i was agreeing with you there 09:46:51 <geoffk> Eddi|zuHause2, i sill got one, unued ofcourse 09:46:54 <geoffk> unused* 09:46:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> see :) 09:47:05 <boekabart> hm, that way the 32bpp artist get what they want... the tile-splitters get what they want.... devs keep what they have... win-win! 09:47:21 <TrueBrain> peter1138: just 8kx8k? :) You do know I have a draft somewhere that allows much much bigger maps? (although spawned over multiple servers) 09:47:28 <boekabart> i also want 8k x 8k to make on-scale scenarios 09:47:28 <peter1138> haha 09:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> world map... 32k x 32k 09:48:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> with real town names 09:48:23 <TrueBrain> for a world map you need a non-square size ;) 09:48:50 <Rubidium> for a real world map you need non-square tiles... 09:48:52 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-26.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can always make it non-square by leaing stuff empty/water 09:49:04 <geoffk> i'd like to see more companies in a game if anything for the huge maps, and higher max players 09:49:07 <boekabart> a 2k x 2k Netherlands scenario has 150 meters per tile.... /4 = 37 meters which comes pretty close 09:49:43 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/coopetition/head-to-head-6.png :) :) 09:49:46 <geoffk> me interesting to see a game of upto 30 players with team play 09:49:54 <geoffk> be* 09:50:01 <boekabart> I don't get the idea of the head-2-head 09:50:07 <hylje> ottdcoop could use a max player increase 09:50:13 <boekabart> just play single-player games and compare in the end :) 09:50:15 <hylje> we tend to get full house once in a while 09:50:31 <TrueBrain> Still waiting for someone to make a patch that makes the client-array dynamic 09:50:34 <TrueBrain> shouldn't be too hard 09:50:59 <geoffk> cool i was looking at the openttdcoop page but its too limited he game itself to be interesting i like the idea though 09:51:32 <boekabart> Brianetta: how did you do the live-view on your page? 09:52:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> boekabart: it's just a call to the screenshot function (via the game console) 09:52:25 <hylje> geoffk: limited in what ways? 09:52:37 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 09:52:43 <boekabart> screenshot fn of the server? 09:52:46 <geoffk> hylje, just can't have enough players and companies 09:52:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> boekabart: yes 09:53:12 <boekabart> how does the server know how big the shot should be? 09:53:14 <hylje> we need also subsidiaries for several company coop 09:53:21 <geoffk> hylje, i like the huge maps, but hard to fill them 09:53:32 <hylje> because its lame to have separate networks arbitrarily 09:53:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> boekabart: the server has a screen size 09:53:39 <geoffk> i also think the game needs to be slowed down, but thats complicatted in many ways 09:53:48 <hylje> the speed is fine as it is 09:53:55 <hylje> and we dont really want to build the map off 09:54:02 <hylje> we did that in one map, it was kinda fun tho 09:54:04 <geoffk> hylje, it is for the smaller maps, but hte huge maps are hard to mke use of 09:54:09 <boekabart> How easy would it be to add 'arrow' buttons on the page to 'control' the viewport location? 09:54:10 <hylje> hence coop 09:54:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> boekabart: the server paints everything to a buffer, just it does not draw that stuff in a window 09:55:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80092.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:03 <geoffk> hylje, even with coop i thik its stil hard, games passed many years before you covered most the map 09:56:13 <Rubidium> boekabart: wouldn't be very difficult, but... it's not real time, it's a snapshot made every X minutes 09:56:27 <hylje> doing stuff takes time 09:56:46 <boekabart> Rubidium: of course a new shot should be made immediately after the move command :) 09:56:50 <geoffk> hylje, i personaly like long games, i'd liek a setting that makes it last a week per game 09:57:15 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80F01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:57:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:57:23 <boekabart> well, how mature is that daylength patch that re-appeared on the forum these days? 09:57:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> boekabart: that probably causes server load issues 09:57:55 <boekabart> If it becomes too popular, probably :) 09:57:59 <geoffk> boekabart, last time i looked at it there are all kids of issues with it, becuase it messes up the ecconomy completely and other things 09:58:07 <geoffk> kinds* 09:58:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> day length is far from perfect 09:58:27 <Rubidium> boekabart: embryonic? 09:58:40 <boekabart> hm?? 09:58:47 <boekabart> ah. embryonic, right 10:02:02 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-26.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:21 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-26.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:08:54 <boekabart> hm, when does electric rail become active/available? fixed year, or with first el. train? 10:09:56 <peter1138> yes, when the first electric train arrive 10:09:57 <peter1138> +s 10:11:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> some train sets have electric trains right from the start 10:13:13 <boekabart> like dbsetxml 10:13:18 <boekabart> xml, heh! 10:15:49 <peter1138> heh 10:16:08 <Sionide> is it possible to new the UK renewal set with openttd? 10:16:13 <Sionide> s/new/use* 10:16:25 <geoffk> Sionide, yes 10:16:36 <Sionide> ah, are there instructions somewhere? 10:17:05 <Sionide> i'm noobish with newgrfs, where do i drop the files? 10:17:23 <Sionide> /data/ 10:17:26 <geoffk> should be fairly straight forward, same as anyother grf files, just need to add it to the data dir IIRC and load it in the openttd.cfg 10:17:53 <Sionide> ah 10:17:59 <Sionide> just used the dialog box for it 10:18:03 <geoffk> been a while since i messed with grfs, people seem to be shy at using them 10:18:29 <geoffk> i got bored of playing games on my own 10:20:04 <Sionide> i need to my proper original grfs back from ttd.. cos the ones i use for openttd are wrong 10:20:12 <Sionide> one of them doesn't hash properly 10:21:23 <hylje> mp grfs are rare because of licencing silliness 10:22:03 <geoffk> hylje, yeah its a shame 10:22:51 <hylje> if ottd and ttdp were commercial games all fan content would automatically be freely available with the terms of the publisher 10:23:11 <hylje> here drama and politics come into play 10:23:15 <hylje> which is not quite as fun 10:23:36 <geoffk> indeed, there should be some way of getting people to make a compromise but i don't disrepect anyone for wanting to licence their creations 10:24:17 <hylje> even a simple solution -- a grf metadata flag disallowing automatic propagation -- is apparently not in question 10:25:32 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:25:35 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 10:28:16 *** lolman [~50c14282@webuser.thegrebs.com] has quit [Quit: TheGrebs.com CGI:IRC] 10:32:01 <geoffk> i think if was any good at drawing i'd try to get a freeware grf package going but im not, so i ca't really knock anyoe else for not giving away their grfs freely 10:35:19 <geoffk> perhaps if some of the more will people got their heads together they could contribute to one project instead of sitting in a corner of he web with it and open up the development to anyone who wants to contribute 10:41:17 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387D940.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:43:25 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:31 <geoffk> another thing would be useful is if people could rewrite the parts of the original game so the game has not need for the original, suprises me sometimes it not already been done 10:43:51 <hylje> we already have remade trese 10:43:53 <hylje> trees 10:43:58 <hylje> and buildings 10:44:05 <geoffk> cool so its in progress then? 10:44:21 <hylje> soon enough we should have enough newgrf to replace the old 10:44:24 <geoffk> i wish i was a better coder, i'd be happy to give time to it 10:44:32 <hylje> maybe terrain tiles 10:48:22 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387EB04.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:04:29 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:08 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:16 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:33:05 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:11 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 11:42:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> geoffk: it's totally easy, just get grfcodec, run 'grfcodec -d' with the original grf files, open the .pcx file, replace every picture with a custom one that is freely distributable, and run 'grfcodec -e' 11:42:52 <geoffk> Eddi|zuHause2, im looking at it :) but atm ... (1 sec) 11:43:57 <geoffk> Eddi|zuHause2, i need to work around this http://rafb.net/p/NLKZIx51.html 11:44:11 <TrueBrain> I would rather see someone doing exactly that for all images to 32bpp pngs :p 11:44:27 <geoffk> TrueBrain, good idea 11:44:50 <TrueBrain> in fact, I think someone needs to make a website for just that :) (one with easy browse stuff, not the wiki :p) 11:45:32 <geoffk> yeah well im thinking i might just do that 11:45:38 <geoffk> i can make a simple page 11:45:47 <geoffk> i just been talking wiht a good old friend of mine about it 11:45:56 <geoffk> hes not bad with graphics 11:46:09 <TrueBrain> what I would like to see, is one where you see the old grf, and besides all submitted pngs 32bpp versions 11:46:14 <geoffk> i got severs runing already 11:46:29 <TrueBrain> where everyone can submit them, underlining that the 32bpp versions will from that on belong to the OpenTTD Developers team 11:46:37 <TrueBrain> +point 11:47:11 <geoffk> if anyone wants to look at it with me just yell i need all advice can get, im not looking to control this idea i got no idea how it works, i just want to see it happen so im giving it my best shot i think 11:48:15 <TrueBrain> just show us when you got anything 11:48:31 <geoffk> sure will do 11:48:38 <geoffk> at the moment time is something i have 11:48:58 <geoffk> and i been getting pretty bored 11:49:22 <TrueBrain> http://blog.openttd.org/?p=9 <- see bottom 11:49:30 <geoffk> taking a look 11:51:59 <geoffk> interesting, sounds liek png support is a bit of a problem at the moment 11:52:14 <TrueBrain> why? 11:52:44 <geoffk> "Getting GRFCodec to do the right thing (or, in fact, anything at all) with PNG files is the only major issue I see." 11:52:52 <TrueBrain> Yes, ignore that 11:52:55 <geoffk> i was going off that 11:52:55 <TrueBrain> totally nonsense 11:53:00 <geoffk> ah ok cool 11:53:09 <TrueBrain> not something to worry about at all at this stage 11:53:14 <geoffk> png is always way i work when possible, so if i ca thats what i'll use 11:53:51 <TrueBrain> some people tend to make problems more complex then strictly seen needed 11:54:36 <geoffk> i got no idea how the game works and what goes on behind the sceens, give it a bit of time and i'll work it out 11:54:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> getting the .png in the .grf is not the issue, gathering the .png files is 11:54:57 <TrueBrain> exactly Eddi|zuHause2 11:55:13 <TrueBrain> and replacing the current grfs with an open-source variant is more important than adding support in newgrf to allow 32bpp or what ever 11:55:16 <geoffk> Eddi|zuHause2, i would of thought if you can get it one format its not hard to convert 11:55:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> exactly 11:55:44 <TrueBrain> so if we only have pngs, in 32bpp, that replace the current grf-stuff, the rest will follow automaticly 11:56:07 <geoffk> sounds sensible 11:56:37 <boekabart> and I guess convert-grf-2-png doesn't count 11:56:38 <TrueBrain> in the worst case we have to convert the 32bpp to 8bpp for the time being :p 11:57:05 <TrueBrain> boekabart: it doesn't really make the graphics more legal, do they? :) 11:57:27 <boekabart> what if we add some noise? 11:57:31 <geoffk> well i guess once i know how to do it, its jsut time and nothing hard, sometimes i need something easy to do that requires little thinking i got plenty of time for that 11:57:43 <geoffk> can ogg be used for sound? 11:57:57 <TrueBrain> boekabart: if I copy a book, and change some random letters, does it avoid me doing jail-time? :) 11:58:09 <TrueBrain> geoffk: if someone would make it, most likely yes :p 11:58:15 <TrueBrain> I believe there is a patch for it on the forums 11:58:27 <TrueBrain> (either for ogg or mp3, can't remember) 11:58:33 <geoffk> TrueBrain, cool, gives food for thought 12:00:10 *** Lie| [ick@c-212-031-191-083.cust.broadway.se] has quit [Quit: Continue? Yes/No] 12:00:25 <TrueBrain> talking about food, let's do some shopping now first :) 12:00:41 <geoffk> my hardest issues i think personaly is i cant draw to save my life 12:01:34 <geoffk> i dont mind though if thngs dont look specialy its the functionality it adds to the game more than anything 12:02:07 <TrueBrain> is it me, or does geoffk started talk gibberish? :) 12:02:15 <TrueBrain> s/does/did 12:02:18 <TrueBrain> bah @ English 12:02:32 <geoffk> always :) 12:03:02 <TrueBrain> bbl 12:03:06 <geoffk> ok laters 12:15:43 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:28:56 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 12:29:30 *** RobertGrammig [~Unke@vpn0556.extern.uni-tuebingen.de] has joined #openttd 12:46:24 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:46:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:47:59 <boekabart> what counts: distance station-station or distance industry-industry? 12:48:16 <Rubidium> station-flag - station-flag 12:48:30 <boekabart> hm 12:50:52 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 12:53:33 <RobertGrammig> is there a patch which changes that? 12:55:31 <Rubidium> no 12:55:55 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:25 <Belugas> hello 13:04:33 <TrueBrain> hi Belugas!!! :) 13:04:59 <Belugas> Mister TrueBrain, I salute ya :D 13:05:19 <TrueBrain> :) 13:05:27 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-34.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 13:16:39 <Ammler> Hi Belugas, nice blogpost, please remove my unimportant comment to your post. 13:22:44 <Belugas> k 13:22:50 <Belugas> hi :) 13:23:43 <Belugas> done 13:29:03 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.184] has joined #openttd 13:30:04 <UndernotBuilder> ottd wouldn't run never on a pI 166mhz with 32mb RAM right? 13:30:13 <TrueBrain> UndernotBuilder: you would be suprised 13:30:38 <peter1138> it ran on my p100 laptop 13:30:43 <peter1138> actually i lie 13:30:50 <peter1138> because that only had 16MB ram 13:30:58 <peter1138> it ran on my p200 laptop, but that had 64MB ram 13:31:19 <UndernotBuilder> but with 32mb RAM never will run right? 13:31:38 <peter1138> i don't know, have you tried it? 13:31:41 <UndernotBuilder> or will run at turtle speed? 13:31:56 <TrueBrain> UndernotBuilder: don't try 2kx2k maps 13:31:58 <TrueBrain> and you will be fine 13:32:12 <peter1138> when i start up it only requires 5MB, so... 13:32:28 <UndernotBuilder> Now the real task is getting OTTD to run on a 286 1mb RAM XD 13:32:34 <peter1138> i'd say compile without freetype though, heh 13:32:40 <peter1138> yes 13:32:45 <peter1138> it will never work on that 13:32:45 <glx> I remember a 0.4.5 server on a 468 13:32:49 <glx> *486 13:32:54 <UndernotBuilder> wtf 13:33:11 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD isn't that demanding 13:33:23 <UndernotBuilder> NO! the ultimate port of OTTD: Nintendo NES! 13:33:42 *** setrodox [~setrodox@83-65-236-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:33:57 <UndernotBuilder> (yes, I am bored) 13:34:20 <glx> 8bit is not enough ;) 13:35:39 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 13:35:53 <UndernotBuilder> maximum map size: 32x32, works only with SAPF(Stone Age PathFinder), now with 2 player mode! 13:37:09 <TrueBrain> split screen ;) 13:37:14 <UndernotBuilder> well, even megadrive games has been converted to nes, what's stoping us? :) 13:43:17 <peter1138> UndernotBuilder: feel free to start the work 13:44:53 <peter1138> system ram runs from 0000 to 0800 13:45:18 <peter1138> have fun with 2KB ram ;p 13:47:16 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:55:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:56:50 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-26.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:12 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-26.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:04:49 <UndernotBuilder> I will not create it because a reason: always will be a jasper that will complain me that it needs highways 14:04:49 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B65D2A.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:05:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> TTO ran fine on my 486 SX 25 14:06:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> TTD might be more demanding 14:06:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> but if you only play 64x64 map or something... 14:07:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r9834 /trunk/src/win32.cpp: -Add: win9x check in win32 builds 14:17:14 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:23:54 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-26.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37:16 <Sacro> hmmm 14:37:30 <Sacro> is squirrel intelligent enough to be used for train orders? 14:37:46 <hylje> squirrels driving trains? SWEET 14:39:27 <Sacro> hylje: indeedy 14:39:28 <TrueBrain> Sacro: I don't think you can give squirrel any intelligence at all 14:39:36 <TrueBrain> it is all about the programmer :) 14:40:34 <Sacro> TrueBrain: but could squirrel be used for more advanced orders 14:40:38 <TrueBrain> yes 14:40:40 <TrueBrain> it can be used for anything 14:40:45 <TrueBrain> it is just like C++, only runtime 14:40:53 <Sacro> mmm, can it be used with signalling too? 14:40:57 <TrueBrain> yes 14:40:58 <hylje> omg 14:41:01 <Sacro> oooh 14:41:02 <TrueBrain> I already suggested that a long time ago 14:41:07 <TrueBrain> but it can even be used to make OpenTTD in 14:41:12 <TrueBrain> so it can be used for ANYTHING 14:41:15 <Sacro> pffft :p, i thought i had a new idea 14:41:16 <TrueBrain> it just needs a framework 14:41:45 <Sacro> ahh, so how would one go about implementing that? 14:41:54 <TrueBrain> take a look at NoAI :) 14:42:06 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-111-150.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:51:32 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 14:59:19 *** boekabar1 [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:59:19 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:03:12 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Thomas[NL]] 15:05:22 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-133-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:06:42 <UndernotBuilder> was banned sergey? 15:07:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> was sentence that? 15:07:55 <hylje> is yes it 15:08:39 <Rubidium> talking about Sergej_S? 15:09:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> i questioning oh already was skills english my good 15:09:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> damn, this is really difficult :p 15:09:53 <geoffk> goot mine as is 15:09:58 <geoffk> good* lol 15:10:00 <boekabar1> I salute you 15:10:33 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-248-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:10 <boekabar1> I welcome you, ???????? 15:11:31 <TrueBrain> I think boekabar1 has lost it 15:11:32 <hylje> boekabar1: AAAAAAAAA! 15:11:47 <Sacro> did he ever have it? 15:11:57 * boekabar1 never had it in the first place 15:12:21 <geoffk> eye knot no 15:12:33 *** kaan [jfk@82.192.152.195] has quit [Quit: see ya] 15:13:05 *** boekabar1 [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:13:13 <hylje> wut 15:13:15 <dihedral> hello ladies 15:13:22 <TrueBrain> hi dihedral 15:13:24 <hylje> hi man 15:13:37 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:14:04 <dihedral> anything interesting up here? 15:14:18 <hylje> no 15:14:29 * boekabart has found his nick back. 15:14:38 <dihedral> appart from boekabart having lost it 15:14:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> and english grammar being weird 15:14:57 <dihedral> which i dont consider 'anything interesting' 15:15:09 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause2: when is it not? 15:15:14 * boekabart is going to COOK! 15:15:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> exactly :) 15:15:26 <boekabart> totally lost it... bye bye ????????! 15:15:30 * geoffk stolen someone's nick easier to spell 15:15:32 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [] 15:16:11 * dihedral is thinking to be so blunt and ask if geoffk might have lost it too 15:16:38 * geoffk has nothing to loose 15:16:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have lost, does that count? 15:16:53 * dihedral is being polite and will not ask 15:17:06 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause2: no 15:17:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> :( 15:17:31 * dihedral offers Eddi|zuHause2 a hug 15:17:47 <dihedral> :-P 15:18:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> ugh... *igottogo* 15:18:16 <dihedral> :-D 15:18:35 <dihedral> at least that cheered you up 15:19:28 <dihedral> afk 15:21:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9835 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: use Pixel typedef instead of byte where ever possible 15:27:27 <UndernotBuilder> but go to the point: was banned sergey? 15:27:40 <UndernotBuilder> (I call him so, don't fix it :P) 15:28:33 <TrueBrain> and we still can't parse what you are saying 15:30:42 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:30:43 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:02 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:33:02 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:41 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-111-150.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36:19 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-111-150.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:37:34 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 15:38:31 <UndernotBuilder> I am asking if sergej_s was banned from the forums 15:39:57 <TrueBrain> ah, see, now you talk normal english 15:46:34 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:34 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:47:06 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 15:48:10 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-111-150.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48:31 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-111-150.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:52:24 *** graeme [~graeme@88-104-6-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:01:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 16:01:26 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.184] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 16:03:09 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:06:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-111-150.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:49 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-111-150.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 16:07:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9836 /trunk/src/ (economy.cpp economy.h vehicle.cpp vehicle.h): -Codechange: make non-improved loading happen FIFO-ish; generally loading/unloading will happen fifo, but there are no guarantees on the FIFO-ness. 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(I'm doing some archeology) 18:12:52 <peterbrett> The web interface is down, and I can't work out the magic SVN incantations to find out manually 18:13:29 <Belugas> r3910, i guess 18:13:38 <Belugas> 03/16/06, i think 18:13:42 <Belugas> no 18:15:40 <Belugas> haaa... 18:15:46 <Belugas> r5361 18:15:51 <Belugas> Darkvater 18:15:54 <Belugas> 06/25/06 18:16:03 <Belugas> "Conform more closely to SVN specs. Rename 'branch' to 'branches'" 18:17:01 <peterbrett> Nice one, thanks 18:17:07 *** Schlauke [~Schlauke@p5480e3ac.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:08 *** RobertGrammig [~Unke@vpn0501.extern.uni-tuebingen.de] has joined #openttd 18:21:15 <peterbrett> Is it just me, or does openttd have separate "american" and "english" locales? 18:21:17 <Sacro> !openttd commit 5361 18:21:39 <TrueBrain> @openttd commit 5361 18:21:40 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by Darkvater :: r5361 / (branch/ branches/) (2006-06-25 12:47:06 UTC) 18:21:42 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Conform more closely to SVN specs. Rename 'branch' to 'branches' 18:21:44 <TrueBrain> ha, DorpsGek is faster :p 18:21:45 <Sacro> its changed :\ 18:21:52 <TrueBrain> no, _42_ is still handling your request 18:21:58 <TrueBrain> he only asks the diff and works with that 18:22:00 <TrueBrain> DorpsGek is a bit more clever 18:22:07 <TrueBrain> and the diff is .... big :p 18:22:08 <TrueBrain> REALLY big 18:22:15 <peterbrett> really really really really big? 18:22:15 <Sacro> so he is still thinking? 18:22:16 <TrueBrain> so expect a reply in like 10 minutes :p 18:22:18 <TrueBrain> !openttd bark 18:22:25 <TrueBrain> Yeah, he is still thinking :p 18:23:48 <TrueBrain> [20:21] <peterbrett> Is it just me, or does openttd have separate "american" and "english" locales? <- yes :p 18:23:58 <peterbrett> lawl 18:24:09 <peterbrett> That is most excellent 18:25:25 <peterbrett> @openttd commit 732 18:25:30 * Belugas wonders creating a french-canadian lang file... 18:25:32 <DorpsGek> peterbrett: Commit by celestar :: r732 branch/map/viewport.c (2004-11-21 13:22:31 UTC) 18:25:33 <DorpsGek> peterbrett: Fixed a problem where selection rectangle where displayed with a Z offset. 18:27:50 <_42_> Commit by Darkvater :: r5361 /branches/ (9150 files in 277 dirs) (2006-06-25 12:47:06 UTC) 18:27:52 <_42_> - Conform more closely to SVN specs. Rename 'branch' to 'branches' 18:27:54 <TrueBrain> see ;) 18:27:54 <_42_> TrueBrain: bark bark bark woef woef grrrrr 18:35:54 <Ammler> TrueBrain: and which locale is default? 18:36:15 <TrueBrain> Ammler: english 18:36:38 <peterbrett> :D 18:37:57 <TrueBrain> but it depends on your env, it does try to read system language 18:40:04 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 18:49:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 18:49:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 18:49:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 18:49:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 18:49:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 18:49:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o blathijs] by ChanServ 18:49:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 18:49:30 <Sacro> i think ChanServ just returned 18:50:15 <TrueBrain> at least it this time didn't take things from users :p 18:50:32 <SpComb> nor did it give me ops 18:50:56 <TrueBrain> but that is a global ChanServ setting, not something we can control on channel level.. you are disallowed to have any +o, ever 18:52:43 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:52:50 <peterbrett> @opentd commit 942 18:53:09 <valhallasw> try @openttd :p 18:53:11 <TrueBrain> you forgot a t :p 18:53:17 <valhallasw> @openttd commit 942 18:53:18 <peterbrett> TrueBrain, valhallasw: d'oh 18:53:19 <DorpsGek> valhallasw: Commit by truelight :: r942 /trunk (76 files in 5 dirs) (2004-12-04 17:54:56 UTC) 18:53:20 <DorpsGek> valhallasw: -Merged branch/network back into the trunk 18:53:29 <valhallasw> @openttd commit 1 18:53:29 <DorpsGek> valhallasw: Commit by truelight :: r1 / (202 files in 13 dirs) (2004-08-09 17:04:08 UTC) 18:53:30 <DorpsGek> valhallasw: Import of revision 975 of old (crashed) SVN 18:53:57 <SpComb> hmm - in what way did it crash? 18:54:11 <TrueBrain> the server crashed and we needed to pay if we wanted the data on it returned to us 18:54:15 <TrueBrain> which was kindly refused 18:54:18 <SpComb> hmm, sucks 18:54:23 <SpComb> backups :P 18:54:25 <TrueBrain> free hosting can have its downsides 18:54:28 <TrueBrain> back then nobody cared about it 18:54:55 <TrueBrain> but it is the reason why nowedays there is send 1 GiB of information every night to a server in an other C class and country, all OpenTTD related information 18:57:07 <hylje> backup 18:57:22 <TrueBrain> no, porn 18:57:30 <peterbrett> @openttd commit 1045 18:57:31 <DorpsGek> peterbrett: Commit by truelight :: r1045 /trunk (5 files) (2004-12-13 11:17:59 UTC) 18:57:31 <SpComb> OpenTTD porn? 18:57:32 <DorpsGek> peterbrett: -Fix: OpenTTD compiles again under VC6 (sign_de) 18:57:48 <SpComb> I do kind of take backups, and I *think* they still work 18:57:52 <TrueBrain> peterbrett: you might want to continue in a private conversation with DorpsGek 18:57:53 <hylje> SpComb: rule 34 18:57:57 <peterbrett> TrueBrain: Good idea 18:58:03 <SpComb> remains to be seen once a hard drive crashes and I need to actually restore them 18:58:23 <hylje> im considering putting up all my stuff on svn 18:58:28 <TrueBrain> hehe, we run a backup test at least twice a year 18:58:31 <TrueBrain> but that is company policy 18:58:55 <TrueBrain> bbl 18:58:58 <SpComb> also, just a filesystem backup might not be the best choice for mysql/postgres/svn, which are binary dbs... 18:59:27 <SpComb> and then the fact that the actual systems and the systems that things get backed up to all have to same password... 18:59:44 <hylje> dbs generally have a backup utility 18:59:45 <TrueBrain> the latter is really bad 18:59:46 <SpComb> so all it takes is one person to keylog my password from somewhere and rm -rf / all of my data into bitspace... 18:59:50 <TrueBrain> and hot fs backups are bad too 19:00:06 <TrueBrain> oh, I was going :p 19:00:17 <hylje> yes 19:00:21 <hylje> you addict 19:00:33 <SpComb> I'll mean to set myself up better systems once I go to uni (three or four weeks left here) 19:00:39 <SpComb> a fresh start, so to say 19:01:08 <hylje> intend 19:01:15 <SpComb> intend 19:01:25 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:23 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 19:14:11 <peterbrett> So what're the main blockers for 0.6.0, then? 19:14:25 <peter1138> it's too soon since 0.5.1 ;) 19:14:42 <peterbrett> "Release early, release often" ...? 19:14:54 <Rubidium> that's what nightlies are for 19:15:08 <peterbrett> What happened to shipping when it's done? :P 19:15:21 <hylje> because it isnt done 19:16:09 <Belugas> nope, not done at all... 19:16:17 <Belugas> but it's been worked on 19:16:19 * peterbrett is confusticated 19:16:49 <Belugas> look at the wiki, under something called road maps for 0.6.0 :) 19:16:55 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:01 <Belugas> there, you might find some answers 19:17:15 <peterbrett> Ah, I see: newindustries is the main thing not yet done 19:17:16 <peterbrett> :) 19:17:31 <peter1138> there are tons of minor things not in the list 19:18:20 <peterbrett> peter1138: Is there a more comprehensive list? 19:18:32 <peter1138> no 19:20:20 <Belugas> only psychics will know the answer :D 19:20:25 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 19:26:29 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 19:28:26 <Wolf01> patches galore! tonight i will work on autoroad 19:29:10 <hylje> :o 19:29:11 <hylje> OMG 19:29:13 <hylje> ! 19:29:29 <Wolf01> i have it half done 19:29:40 <peterbrett> Wolf01: Autoroad? 19:29:57 <Wolf01> like autorail 19:30:06 <peterbrett> Wolf01: Yayness! 19:30:35 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:30:37 <Wolf01> but i want to add L shaped roads, to avoid the miss of the diagonal roads 19:30:58 <hylje> :o 19:39:49 *** graeme [~graeme@88-104-6-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:49:50 *** RobertGrammig [~Unke@vpn0501.extern.uni-tuebingen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9837 /trunk/src/newgrf_spritegroup.cpp: -Fix: [NewGRF] Catch occurance of division-by-zero in varaction handling. 20:01:37 <Wolf01> i need some math lessons 20:01:52 <peter1138> wtf 20:02:21 <peter1138> that was 1.5 hours ago... 20:02:36 <Rubidium> peter1138: more like 2.5 hours 20:02:42 <peter1138> er, yes 20:04:09 *** Sleepie [~Sleepie@p54B36958.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:02 *** boekabart [~bdb@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:08:08 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:08:14 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9838 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: 20:12:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: make "improved loading" a proper improved loading instead of loading one (semi-)random vehicle at a time: 20:12:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Now it is really FIFO. 20:12:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - When there is enough cargo to fill the first vehicle in the queue, the next vehicle in the queue start loading (and the next when ....). 20:13:39 <hylje> omg 20:15:18 *** yeti_ [~yeti@p5493D743.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9839 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix: vehicles in old savegames could leave the station because the changed loading algorithm thought it was already finished. 20:17:39 <peter1138> good job my tram engine starts off by going down hill 20:17:58 <peter1138> 400hp pulling 583t... 20:18:22 <hylje> tram engine 20:18:27 <hylje> 583 tons 20:18:30 <hylje> you are nuts 20:22:41 <peter1138> it's a very short run 20:22:58 <hylje> okay 20:22:59 <peterbrett> I think that OpenTTD needs vernicular railways 20:23:15 <hylje> vernicular? 20:23:17 <peterbrett> Very slow train engines that are stupidly powerful would do the trick 20:23:38 <hylje> then someone disables speed limits altogether 20:23:43 *** Thomas[NL] 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peculiar 20:56:40 <peterbrett> How can you hack OTTD and watch TV at the same time anyway? 20:56:54 <Belugas> maybe he just can't find the keyboard? that would explain :D 20:56:54 <Rubidium> s-video out on your computer 20:57:04 <peterbrett> Rubidium: Good point 20:57:10 <Rubidium> or a capture card in his PC 20:57:11 <Wolf01> i can't pay attention to one thing, i'll get severe headaches 20:57:23 <Belugas> close the TV! 20:57:34 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 20:57:44 <Belugas> good evening Tron 20:58:42 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 20:59:21 <Belugas> wb KUDr_wrk 20:59:53 <Wolf01> i'm stuck at making NE and NW roads drag&drop simultaneously :( 21:00:26 <Wolf01> aka "i can't set the _place_road_flag" 21:01:40 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:05:19 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:29 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 21:06:31 *** 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anytime soon 21:14:06 <dihedral> :-) 21:14:14 <peterbrett> Belugas: Which patch was this? 21:14:16 <dihedral> i appreciate you looking at it 21:14:30 <dihedral> it is very kind of you 21:14:33 <Belugas> smooth economy 21:14:39 <Belugas> no prob, dihedral 21:16:07 <dihedral> well - i really need to get to bed now 21:16:19 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:28 <dihedral> have a nice day/evening everyone 21:16:35 <Belugas> i really need to get to home now... 21:16:37 <Belugas> you too 21:16:42 <dihedral> :-) 21:16:47 <Belugas> and bye guys, me is going too 21:16:49 <dihedral> dont let wife and kid wait too long 21:16:55 <Wolf01> bye 21:16:59 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-248-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 21:17:07 * Wolf01 need to see the bed too 21:28:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... the TV application crashed, but apparently, the backend is still recording... 21:32:39 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not the OTTD one 23:59:27 <glx> does it give a message?