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00:04:04 <Chris82> hmm well the != 0 doesn't help still gives me a warning, but the code compiles and executes 00:04:34 <Rubidium> then the warning is not in the given line 00:05:10 <Rubidium> anyhow, I don't have enough context to judge that 00:06:13 <Chris82> well the problem is that VS_SHADW seems to be a bool while all the other vaues from that line are ints 00:06:37 <glx> show us the line 00:06:39 <Chris82> I don't know why I get a warning tho because the line is unchanged from trunk and when compiling a clean trunk I don't get the warning on this line 00:06:49 <Chris82> v->sprite_width, v->sprite_height, v->z_height, v->z_pos, v->vehstatus & VS_SHADOW); 00:07:02 <Chris82> for me line 867 in vehicle.cpp 00:07:38 <Chris82> line 862 in trunk 00:10:50 <Chris82> hmmm http://msdn2.microsoft.com/de-de/library/b6801kcy(vs.80).aspx says the same which you suggested Rubidium (with the != 0) 00:12:09 <glx> hmm trunk gives the warning 00:12:29 <Rubidium> oh noes... fix it ;) 00:12:42 <Rubidium> there may be more though 00:13:40 <glx> well I'm now doing a full rebuild 00:13:48 <glx> to be sure 00:16:38 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:00 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:20:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r10714 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix r10696: MSVC performance warning 00:20:16 <glx> it was the only one :) 00:36:04 *** Rippsy [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:45:55 <Tefad> yay performance 00:56:07 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-57-192.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 01:02:36 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-57-192.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:30:56 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B753A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:20 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7547F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:42:14 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D19A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:43:31 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:45:59 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0DE2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:47:40 <Digitalfox_Desktop> Today is my birthday, and my girlfriend just ofered me a new PStwo slim SCPH-77004 PAL.. And i need some help on how to make it read divx files from a external USB disk.. Anyone knows? :) 02:02:15 *** Tobin-_ [~tobin@58.107.50.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:07:29 *** Digitalfox_Desktop [~Digitalfo@bl10-64-252.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:24:41 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E542.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:28:26 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D19A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:19 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 03:20:56 *** Chrissicom [~Chris82@p579E1D9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:27:17 *** Chris82 [~Chris82@p579E1FAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:27:17 *** Chrissicom is now known as Chris82 03:28:03 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B753A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:30:42 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E9AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:32:54 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B753A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:32:56 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E542.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:56:21 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-57-192.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:04:08 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:07:56 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E9AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:31:11 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489DFEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:38:26 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489F795.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:54:39 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 06:27:38 *** Nigel_ [~nigel@202.154.148.217] has joined #openttd 06:28:28 *** Nigel [~nigel@202.154.148.217] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:39:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host238-162-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 06:40:03 <Wolf01> hello 06:53:20 <peter1138> hi 07:54:41 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C113.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:02:43 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:18:02 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-236-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:24:21 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]] 08:25:11 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:26:06 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:33:51 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B820AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:24 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B84C20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:57:37 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:04:37 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:10:03 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-236-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:33 *** Digitalfox_Notebook_ [~chatzilla@bl7-191-130.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 09:27:58 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl10-64-252.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 482 seconds] 09:28:09 *** Digitalfox_Notebook_ is now known as Digitalfox_Notebook 09:28:56 *** Wezz6400 [~not@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 09:29:49 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30:16 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:30:49 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-57-192.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 09:32:57 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 09:47:32 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 09:49:24 *** macbane [~Maui_key@p5498FF4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:51:18 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4D94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:51:32 <macbane> any hint for ttd channel? =) 09:56:44 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C0FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:17 *** macbane [~Maui_key@p5498FF4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 10:01:23 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:01:24 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02:03 <Smoovious> yes 10:02:06 <Smoovious> you're in one 10:02:08 <Smoovious> or was 10:04:55 <Wezz6400> lol nice going Smoovious 10:06:44 <Smoovious> its my trademark... coming in too late 10:07:46 *** JazzyJaffa [~jazzy@85-211-142-91.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:14:00 * Zr40 prods TrueBrain 10:14:24 <Smoovious> get a room 10:15:02 <Wezz6400> you just screwed your trademark 10:16:40 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 10:21:31 <Smoovious> well, it hasn't been perfected yet... that's why I haven't registered it yet 10:29:18 <Wezz6400> well you were late on answering, just as I am now ^^ 10:34:21 <Smoovious> but not 'too' late 10:34:28 <Wezz6400> nah 10:39:21 *** Nigel_ is now known as Nigel 11:24:17 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:26:35 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4D94.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 11:28:23 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 11:29:03 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p54ABD915.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:29:16 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B84C20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 11:32:52 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84C20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:32:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:38:09 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 12:02:25 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p54ABD915.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 12:02:54 *** Richard [~chatzilla@host217-43-202-182.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:03:57 *** Strid [~Strid@85.8.6.64.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:07 *** Richard is now known as RichardSmith 12:04:20 *** RichardSmith [~chatzilla@host217-43-202-182.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 12:05:02 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178210092.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:08:12 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-161-87.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:10:09 *** Strid_ [gg@85.8.6.64.se.wasadata.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:30 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-57-192.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16:11 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:16:11 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:51 *** Rippsy [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has joined #openttd 12:27:36 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:27:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:28:32 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 12:33:50 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 12:36:55 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:16 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 12:43:14 *** Rippsy [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45:24 *** Wezz6400 [~not@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: lunch time, bbl] 12:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10715 /trunk/src/fileio.cpp: -Fix: limited-fs code was broken 12:47:38 *** kaan [~klaus@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 12:47:44 <kaan> hi all :) 12:51:32 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:06 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 12:55:23 *** alan [~alan@host86-142-151-188.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:55:24 <Digitalfox_Notebook> hi kaan :) 12:55:25 *** Rippsy [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has joined #openttd 12:57:33 <Digitalfox_Notebook> kaan: Are thinking on releasing 1.0 final of your tool BuildOTTD ?? 12:58:36 *** alan [~alan@host86-142-151-188.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 12:58:51 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01:28 <kaan> Digitalfox_Notebook: sure, as soon as i get the time to reinstall my windows partition ;) 13:02:53 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 13:03:09 <kaan> but it will just be a promotion of RC1 as there has been no bugs reported at all 13:07:04 <peter1138> you'll get some once 1.0 is released :D 13:07:23 <kaan> peter1138: im counting on that :P 13:07:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, it'll be some showstopper thing like everything hardcoded to your directories :p 13:08:30 <kaan> Eddi|zuHause3: better yet, microsoft releases a new version of .net that changes everything 13:10:08 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5507.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:21 *** Wezz6400 [~not@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 13:41:17 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-84.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 14:02:05 <Phazorx> does openttd has some kind of AMD based optimization ? 14:03:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't think so 14:16:15 <skidd13> Is the cleanup of town owned roads by "Found local road construction" a good idea? 14:17:36 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-206-72.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 14:18:05 <Wezz6400> afaik it's only use is to obstruct competitor's vehicles 14:18:27 <skidd13> True but what about this nice side effect? 14:18:44 <Wezz6400> hmm don't know 14:18:44 <glx> who will be the owner then? 14:18:54 <skidd13> The owner will stay. 14:19:57 <skidd13> Town property will stay town property. The construction is paid by the donator. 14:21:05 <glx> then I don't understand your idea :) 14:22:10 <skidd13> The idea is to get an optical nicer city. 14:22:31 <skidd13> No more streets leading into houses, etc. 14:22:46 <glx> oh I sea 14:22:50 <glx> *see 14:23:06 <glx> could be nice yes 14:26:59 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:28:59 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 14:38:40 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:34 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 14:49:38 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-161-87.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:49:51 *** Ammler is now known as Guest275 14:49:51 *** Ammller is now known as ammler 14:56:36 *** Guest275 [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-161-87.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:19 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5507.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 15:02:09 *** Haclet [~haclet@77-97-206-88.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:02:31 *** Haclet [~haclet@77-97-206-88.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 15:02:57 *** Haclet [~haclet@77-97-206-88.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:14:26 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:20:57 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:30:09 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:20 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-169-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:40:31 <peter1138> hmm, an oil rig with 369 passengers 15:44:56 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-115-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:45:00 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 15:55:50 *** Wolf01|AWAY [~wolf01@host238-162-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:57:16 <Phazorx> somehow, dedicated server on t-bred 2500+/winxp, uses less CPU than on xeon 5160 3G / linux 15:57:55 <Phazorx> and same goes for client i can play games on that 2500 that P4 3GHz users time out on 15:58:18 <Phazorx> hence my Q about AMD optimization 15:59:49 <Phazorx> naturaly, save being same and sampling timing close 16:00:09 <Wezz6400> a thouroughbred is a very good processor, the P4 sure isn't, but the difference shouldn't be that big 16:00:15 *** kaan [~klaus@82.192.152.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:49 <Phazorx> well on 150% clock speed, p4 needs half more cpu time 16:03:18 <Phazorx> on tbred load is ~30%, on Xeon ~45-50% 16:03:38 <Phazorx> with p4s it is even stranger 16:04:20 <Phazorx> i play fine with cpu averaging ~80-85% (idle screen - 55-60, busy station zommed out - 100) 16:04:49 <Phazorx> and p4s just drops out with 99% pegged after few seconds 16:05:14 <Phazorx> i even sent my banary and batch file to P4 user 16:08:45 <Hendikins> Maybe P4s suck? :P 16:09:13 <Wezz6400> ofcourse 16:09:23 <Wezz6400> especially late models with such high frequencies 16:11:30 <Phazorx> still too fishy 16:11:41 <Phazorx> xeons are not that bad of CPUs 16:12:14 <Hendikins> Architecture differences could well account for it. 16:12:25 <Phazorx> x86 all around 16:12:54 <Hendikins> K7 and P4 are different architectures, even if they use the same instruction set. 16:13:29 <Phazorx> well p4 and xeon are differnt too 16:13:38 <Phazorx> same goes to tbre and barton 16:14:11 <Phazorx> however 3800+ X2 is slower than this 2500+ too 16:14:33 <Phazorx> at least accordingly to server test 16:14:46 <Phazorx> i'd realyl like to profile that one 16:15:01 <Hendikins> That I don't buy. I find my 2600+ 64bit Sempron to be quicker for doing dedicated than my dual 2600+ Bartons. 16:15:28 <Hendikins> (although the dual is moot, since ottd can't use both CPUs) 16:15:52 <Phazorx> suggest trying it 16:16:10 <Phazorx> XeryusTC: got 25-30% higehr load on hix 3800 16:16:17 <Phazorx> using same revision and save 16:16:20 <Phazorx> ruins same OS 16:17:03 <XeryusTC> when you consider it was one core ;) 16:17:20 <XeryusTC> if you take dual coring into account it was almost half :P 16:17:32 <Phazorx> cant count like that 16:17:39 <Phazorx> XeryusTC: care to do profile run ? 16:17:41 <XeryusTC> yes we can ;) 16:17:47 <XeryusTC> no :P 16:17:53 <XeryusTC> it took only 20% of my total cpu 16:17:56 <XeryusTC> or sth 16:18:11 <Phazorx> yeah... but xp sees 200% as total 16:18:19 <XeryusTC> no 16:18:24 * Hendikins isn't using Windows, perhaps that helps? 16:18:25 <XeryusTC> it sees 100% as total 16:18:55 <Phazorx> of one core full load is 50% - it doesnt sound like 100% to me 16:19:10 <XeryusTC> both cores full load is 100% 16:19:17 <Hendikins> My Bartons use 32bit OpenSUSE 10.2 with 32bit openttd. My Semprons use 64bit OpenSUSE 10.2 with 64bit openttd :P 16:19:21 <Phazorx> Hendikins: linux actualy got worse performance somehow 16:19:37 <Phazorx> Hendikins: i can dcc the save 16:19:42 <Hendikins> And yes, Win32 will take 100% of all cores to be 100% CPU usage. 16:19:48 * Hendikins broke DCC. 16:20:07 <Phazorx> well i dont mind publishing it 16:20:56 * Hendikins ran dual CPU kit with Windows, albeit a few years ago now, and 100% of 1 CPU = 50% CPU usage according to task manager 16:21:24 <Phazorx> so if he gets 20% load on openttd.exe means 40% of power of one core 16:22:27 <Hendikins> And since ottd can only use one core/CPU, that means 40% of CPU power available to it 16:22:47 <Phazorx> which is mroe than 30-35% on 2500+ 16:23:03 <Phazorx> current save is mroe advacned tho 16:23:10 <Phazorx> but fluctuates a lot 16:23:45 <Phazorx> do i need to ocmpile debug one for profiling, i frogot again? 16:25:40 <XeryusTC> Phazorx: you forget the fact that ottd can only use 50% of my cpu 16:26:10 <Phazorx> XeryusTC: same goes for ammlers server that has 4 cpus 16:26:13 *** Wezz6400 [~not@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: dinner time, bbl :)] 16:26:25 <Phazorx> but we are comparing appels to apples 16:26:53 <Phazorx> per core, yours should eb faster than mine' 16:26:58 <Phazorx> or at least same speed 16:27:01 <Phazorx> since it has same clock 16:27:09 <Hendikins> As far as I'm concerned dual core just doesn't have the same status as dual CPU :P 16:27:14 <XeryusTC> one core is equal to a 1900+ 16:27:27 <Phazorx> really ? 16:27:32 <XeryusTC> well, about equal :P 16:28:24 * Phazorx would really liek aprofiling run 16:29:15 <XeryusTC> i think that running some futuremark cpu test is better to compare cpus than running ottd 16:29:17 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:36 <Phazorx> i am questioning code optimization for AMD cpu 16:29:48 <Phazorx> how's futuremark is gonna show it ? 16:30:44 <XeryusTC> they have better tests ;) 16:30:56 <Phazorx> better fow what ? 16:31:07 <Phazorx> shoind openttd code quircks? 16:31:07 <XeryusTC> testing, duh 16:31:26 <Phazorx> artificial tests is kidna silly for this subject 16:31:31 <Phazorx> i know it should eb faster 16:31:38 <Phazorx> i'm tryignt o find out why it isnt 16:31:47 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:34:54 <XeryusTC> there can be a dozen of reasons 16:35:13 <Phazorx> profiling may shed some light on it 16:35:26 <Phazorx> especially if Hendikins would join the fest 16:36:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> optimisation for any kind of CPU is the compiler's job 16:36:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> it has hardly anything to do with the code itself 16:36:39 <Phazorx> hmm... 16:37:18 <XeryusTC> Eddi|zuHause3: you can influence it by what code you use etc 16:37:41 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7927.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host163-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:58:30 <Wolf01> hello 16:59:15 <skidd13> Is there a funcion which gets the roadbits, as well when there are roadworks on them? 16:59:44 <skidd13> hi Wolf01 how is the brickland project goin on? 17:00:13 <Wolf01> you can see the last improvement in the forum 17:01:10 <skidd13> nice work, but I still miss AA ;) 17:01:38 <Wolf01> teach it to paint 17:02:18 <skidd13> I do the AA by Hand 17:02:56 <skidd13> Nearest neighbor fits in most cases. 17:04:01 *** Wezz6400 [~not@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:04:37 <skidd13> Has anyone of the devs a few time, to help me with my road_cleanup patch? 17:05:44 <Phazorx> after profiling it makes even less sense now 17:06:01 <Phazorx> 274 vs 1698 seconds 17:06:35 <skidd13> Sure a lot of new conditions. But it's not at it's final state. 17:09:19 <skidd13> I've got problems with the roadworks. Maybe an dev has a wise advice. 17:10:04 <skidd13> Phazorx: Which patch did U use? 17:10:13 <Phazorx> no patches 17:10:21 <Phazorx> i'm benching intel vs amd 17:10:24 <skidd13> Ah 17:10:42 <skidd13> Which is which? 17:11:10 <Phazorx> 2500+ vs Xeon 5160 3Ghz 17:11:14 <Priski> :/ 17:11:20 <Phazorx> visualy there was less difference 17:11:35 <Phazorx> but still in tbred favor 17:11:50 <peter1138> 1.83GHz vs 3GHz? heh 17:12:11 <skidd13> desktop VS workstation 17:12:21 <peter1138> like there's any difference 17:14:37 <Phazorx> it's a tbred not barton 17:14:43 <Phazorx> so 2000mhz vs 3000mhz 17:14:57 <Phazorx> according to taskman and top 17:15:13 <Phazorx> tbred had ~30% load while xeon was ~50% 17:15:25 <Phazorx> profiling run makes no sense to me at all 17:15:59 <skidd13> Why is there an assertion in (Get|Set)RoadBits? 17:16:38 <Phazorx> running on different 5160 now... let's see 17:17:46 <Phazorx> does gmon/profiling works different for win/unix ? 17:19:45 <Phazorx> and can anything run in background somehow affect profiling? 17:20:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:22:13 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 17:28:44 <Chris82> does anybody know if this patch http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14819&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=140 was added to trunk or is outdated? 17:29:20 <glx> not in trunk 17:31:22 <Phazorx> glx: have you ever delat with profiling in mingw? 17:31:41 <glx> never tried very hard 17:32:00 <Phazorx> what i want to know if results are cross platfrom comparable 17:32:59 <glx> if you tell me the rev and gave me a savegame I can try 17:33:12 <Phazorx> r10620 17:33:19 <Phazorx> what os/cpu ? 17:33:36 <glx> winxp x2 3800+ 17:33:45 <Phazorx> perfect 17:35:23 <Phazorx> i'm doing: openttd.exe -v null:ticks=10000 -g save/test.sa 17:35:32 <Phazorx> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/files/phazorx/test.sav 17:36:35 <Phazorx> and i really wonder what load will you see in taskman if you just openttd.exe -D -g save/test.sav it 17:37:10 <glx> I reconfigured with enable-profiling 17:37:23 <Phazorx> kinda required 17:43:07 <glx> ok openttd -D around 40% 17:44:07 <Phazorx> one core ? 17:44:20 <glx> openttd uses only one core 17:44:40 <Phazorx> 40 is sclaed to one core 40% or 40% as windows sees it ? 17:44:40 <glx> so it is like 80% for a single core cpu 17:44:47 <Phazorx> ahh 17:46:11 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:16 <Phazorx> it doesnt rreach 80 ehre 17:46:23 <Phazorx> fluctuates quite a bit tho 17:46:34 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7927.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:46:38 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:26 <Wezz6400> if you have dual core windows will never display the load on one core above 50% 17:47:27 <Phazorx> glx: can ya do a profile run plz 17:47:40 <glx> doing it right now 17:47:46 <Phazorx> Wezz6400: that was exactly my point i was trying to clarify 17:48:19 <Phazorx> on 2500 it looks like 65-70 but i seen as low as 40 and as high as 100 17:49:01 <Phazorx> nm that was due to priority 17:49:09 <Phazorx> or not 17:50:03 <glx> 10000 ticks with your save is very long 17:50:23 <Phazorx> 274 sec 17:51:40 <Phazorx> that's on mine and 180 for one Xeon and 1700 for another 17:57:09 <glx> Phazorx: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/phazorx.txt 17:58:17 <Phazorx> that makes sense for CPU perfromance... but not for taksman 17:58:21 <Phazorx> thanks 18:01:01 *** kaan [~klaus@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 18:01:27 <kaan> withdrawals! 18:01:38 <kaan> i hate when the net isnt working!!!!!!! 18:03:46 <Prof_Frink> kaan: Calm down, you have internets now 18:07:09 <Chris82> is it actualy possible again to update attachments? 18:07:16 <Chris82> in the forums I mean 18:08:10 <Chris82> otherwise I'll just delete the old ones now and hope no one has linked them :D 18:08:49 <TrueBrain> Zr40: I hate it when you do that ±p 18:08:51 <TrueBrain> :p 18:09:40 <kaan> hmmm, autoslopes is twisting my brain, maybe i should take a break :) 18:10:24 <TrueBrain> or replace your brain :p 18:10:36 <kaan> ohhh, nice idea, anyone have a spare? 18:10:47 <TrueBrain> hmmm 18:10:50 <TrueBrain> let me check... 18:10:59 <TrueBrain> yup, I have one 18:11:01 <TrueBrain> mailorder? 18:11:20 <kaan> ohhh, good, ill take it, please do mail it :) 18:12:36 <kaan> it is quite fun to watch a power plant drop a level when you remove its foundation :P 18:19:37 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23:33 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 18:33:25 <Smoovious> Chris82... I was able to replace an attachment 18:42:29 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:42:32 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 18:46:22 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C113.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:52:03 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C113.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:55:31 <TrueBrain> Stupid shit: /var/tmp/cross/powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu/portage/gcc-4.1.1-r3/work/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/crtstuff.c:1: error: -msecure-plt not supported by your assembler 18:55:41 <TrueBrain> Turulo: first attempt to compile the crosscompiler failed :p 18:59:58 <Smoovious> maybe it needs to be cross-compilied first? :D 19:01:33 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178210092.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:12:13 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:19:36 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:06 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:31:46 *** Haclet [~haclet@77-97-206-88.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:42 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 19:38:58 *** MarkSlap [~hestporr@h187n1c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 19:53:50 * Zr40 prods TrueBrain 19:55:43 *** MarkSlap [~hestporr@h187n1c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:58:59 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:54 *** MarkSlap [~hestporr@h187n1c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 20:04:12 <kaan> is there any sort of state variable set when the game is generating a new map? 20:06:45 <Rubidium> somethinggenertatsomething 20:06:51 <Rubidium> somethinggeneratsomething 20:07:33 <kaan> so i just do this i guess : if (somethinggeneratsomething) { 20:07:35 <kaan> ;) 20:07:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> if(_generating_map)? 20:08:06 <Rubidium> /ignore #openttd kaan 20:08:14 <kaan> hehe 20:09:09 <Rubidium> oh crap, it had a space in front of it... stupid client, you should trim strings before parsing them 20:09:53 <glx> IsGeneratingWorld() <-- that could do it too 20:10:00 <kaan> ohhh, nice 20:10:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> the joy of grep :p 20:11:29 <Rubidium> giving the complete answer isn't didactically favourable, giving a hint is 20:13:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't even know if my answer was even remotely correct 20:15:18 <kaan> glx that worked wonderfully :) 20:15:35 <kaan> now im going to post my broken autoslopes patch :P 20:15:44 <kaan> well in a minute anyway 20:16:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> i thought we had enough broken autoslope patches already? 20:17:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> and i also thought it was decided that the proper way was to store slopes (or all 4 corners) explicitely in the map 20:20:43 <kaan> I didnt hear anything about that anywhere ... but then i had a nice vacation :D 20:23:40 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 20:27:30 <Rubidium> neither did I 20:35:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, technically, i heard celestar saying he wanted to do it that way a year ago, but he lacked approval of the developers' committee or something :p 20:37:28 <Smoovious> well, storing 4 corners would alllow future terrain changes too... steeper slopes maybe... more gradual height changes... so long as there are sprites to support them... .. . 20:38:03 <Smoovious> and the huge headaches that come with em. :D 20:40:54 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41:10 <Smoovious> would someone using the latest nightly, type an underscore in the console, and see if the window zooms out at the same time? 20:41:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> exactly, the current system is a horrible mess of hacks and special cases for slopes 20:42:57 <Smoovious> hmm... for that matter, the console isn't showing in the right place either... 20:43:15 <Smoovious> so, not knowing if i t is ChrisIN specific right now... .. . 20:46:28 <Prof_Frink> Smoovious: No zoomout here (r10715) 20:47:40 <Smoovious> what OS? 20:47:49 * Smoovious waits for his own r10715 to compile 20:49:03 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:49:09 <Prof_Frink> leenooks 20:49:39 <Smoovious> okee, thanky 20:50:04 * Smoovious tosses the penguin back. 20:51:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> [... dozens of "xxx.grf not found" messages ...] 20:51:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> dbg: [sprite] Tried to load real sprite #4627 as a non sprite. Probable cause: NewGRF interference 20:51:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> Error: !Disconnecting road vehicle. 20:51:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> openttd: /home/johannes/spiele/OpenTTD/src/openttd.cpp:110: void error(const char*, ...): Assertion `0' failed. 20:52:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> is that how this is supposed to work? 20:53:19 <Rubidium> not really I guess, but apparantly you had a savegame with ARVs and you didn't have the appropriate grfs 20:53:20 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0FBF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:45 *** HMage` [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:54:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... the console window is not fully painted black... 20:55:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> there is a stripe about as big as the main toolbar not painted black 20:56:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can see that it is part of the console window if you scroll while the console is open 20:56:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> but underscore does not zoom out for me either... 20:57:06 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping 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