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Log for #openttd on 28th July 2007:
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00:04:04  <Chris82> hmm well the != 0 doesn't help still gives me a warning, but the code compiles and executes
00:04:34  <Rubidium> then the warning is not in the given line
00:05:10  <Rubidium> anyhow, I don't have enough context to judge that
00:06:13  <Chris82> well the problem is that VS_SHADW seems to be a bool while all the other vaues from that line are ints
00:06:37  <glx> show us the line
00:06:39  <Chris82> I don't know why I get a warning tho because the line is unchanged from trunk and when compiling a clean trunk I don't get the warning on this line
00:06:49  <Chris82> v->sprite_width, v->sprite_height, v->z_height, v->z_pos, v->vehstatus & VS_SHADOW);
00:07:02  <Chris82> for me line 867 in vehicle.cpp
00:07:38  <Chris82> line 862 in trunk
00:10:50  <Chris82> hmmm http://msdn2.microsoft.com/de-de/library/b6801kcy(vs.80).aspx says the same which you suggested Rubidium (with the != 0)
00:12:09  <glx> hmm trunk gives the warning
00:12:29  <Rubidium> oh noes... fix it ;)
00:12:42  <Rubidium> there may be more though
00:13:40  <glx> well I'm now doing a full rebuild
00:13:48  <glx> to be sure
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00:20:04  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r10714 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix r10696: MSVC performance warning
00:20:16  <glx> it was the only one :)
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00:45:55  <Tefad> yay performance
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01:47:40  <Digitalfox_Desktop> Today is my birthday, and my girlfriend just ofered me a new PStwo slim SCPH-77004 PAL.. And i need some help on how to make it read divx files from a external USB disk.. Anyone knows? :)
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06:40:03  <Wolf01> hello
06:53:20  <peter1138> hi
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09:51:32  <macbane> any hint for ttd channel? =)
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10:02:03  <Smoovious> yes
10:02:06  <Smoovious> you're  in one
10:02:08  <Smoovious> or was
10:04:55  <Wezz6400> lol nice going Smoovious
10:06:44  <Smoovious> its my trademark... coming in too late
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10:14:24  <Smoovious> get a room
10:15:02  <Wezz6400> you just screwed your trademark
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10:21:31  <Smoovious> well, it hasn't been perfected yet... that's why I haven't registered it yet
10:29:18  <Wezz6400> well you were late on answering, just as I am now ^^
10:34:21  <Smoovious> but not 'too' late
10:34:28  <Wezz6400> nah
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12:45:41  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10715 /trunk/src/fileio.cpp: -Fix: limited-fs code was broken
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12:47:44  <kaan> hi all :)
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12:55:24  <Digitalfox_Notebook> hi kaan :)
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12:57:33  <Digitalfox_Notebook> kaan: Are thinking on releasing 1.0 final of your tool BuildOTTD ??
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13:01:28  <kaan> Digitalfox_Notebook: sure, as soon as i get the time to reinstall my windows partition ;)
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13:03:09  <kaan> but it will just be a promotion of RC1 as there has been no bugs reported at all
13:07:04  <peter1138> you'll get some once 1.0 is released :D
13:07:23  <kaan> peter1138: im counting on that :P
13:07:44  <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, it'll be some showstopper thing like everything hardcoded to your directories :p
13:08:30  <kaan> Eddi|zuHause3: better yet, microsoft releases a new version of .net that changes everything
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14:02:05  <Phazorx> does openttd has some kind of  AMD based optimization ?
14:03:27  <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't think so
14:16:15  <skidd13> Is the cleanup of town owned roads by "Found local road construction" a good idea?
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14:18:05  <Wezz6400> afaik it's only use is to obstruct competitor's vehicles
14:18:27  <skidd13> True but what about this nice side effect?
14:18:44  <Wezz6400> hmm don't know
14:18:44  <glx> who will be the owner then?
14:18:54  <skidd13> The owner will stay.
14:19:57  <skidd13> Town property will stay town property. The construction is paid by the donator.
14:21:05  <glx> then I don't understand your idea :)
14:22:10  <skidd13> The idea is to get an optical nicer city.
14:22:31  <skidd13> No more streets leading into houses, etc.
14:22:46  <glx> oh I sea
14:22:50  <glx> *see
14:23:06  <glx> could be nice yes
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15:40:31  <peter1138> hmm, an oil rig with 369 passengers
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15:57:16  <Phazorx> somehow, dedicated server on t-bred 2500+/winxp, uses less CPU than on xeon 5160 3G / linux
15:57:55  <Phazorx> and same goes for client i can play games on that 2500 that P4 3GHz users time out on
15:58:18  <Phazorx> hence my Q about AMD optimization
15:59:49  <Phazorx> naturaly, save being same and sampling timing close
16:00:09  <Wezz6400> a thouroughbred is a very good processor, the P4 sure isn't, but the difference shouldn't be that big
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16:02:49  <Phazorx> well on 150% clock speed, p4 needs half more cpu time
16:03:18  <Phazorx> on tbred load is ~30%, on Xeon ~45-50%
16:03:38  <Phazorx> with p4s it is even stranger
16:04:20  <Phazorx> i play fine with cpu averaging ~80-85% (idle screen - 55-60, busy station zommed out - 100)
16:04:49  <Phazorx> and p4s just drops out with 99% pegged after few seconds
16:05:14  <Phazorx> i even sent my banary and batch file to P4 user
16:08:45  <Hendikins> Maybe P4s suck? :P
16:09:13  <Wezz6400> ofcourse
16:09:23  <Wezz6400> especially late models with such high frequencies
16:11:30  <Phazorx> still too fishy
16:11:41  <Phazorx> xeons are not that bad of CPUs
16:12:14  <Hendikins> Architecture differences could well account for it.
16:12:25  <Phazorx> x86 all around
16:12:54  <Hendikins> K7 and P4 are different architectures, even if they use the same instruction set.
16:13:29  <Phazorx> well p4 and xeon are differnt too
16:13:38  <Phazorx> same goes to tbre and barton
16:14:11  <Phazorx> however 3800+ X2 is slower than this 2500+ too
16:14:33  <Phazorx> at least accordingly to server test
16:14:46  <Phazorx> i'd realyl like to profile that one
16:15:01  <Hendikins> That I don't buy. I find my 2600+ 64bit Sempron to be quicker for doing dedicated than my dual 2600+ Bartons.
16:15:28  <Hendikins> (although the dual is moot, since ottd can't use both CPUs)
16:15:52  <Phazorx> suggest trying it
16:16:10  <Phazorx> XeryusTC: got 25-30% higehr load on hix 3800
16:16:17  <Phazorx> using same revision and save
16:16:20  <Phazorx> ruins same OS
16:17:03  <XeryusTC> when you consider it was one core ;)
16:17:20  <XeryusTC> if you take dual coring into account it was almost half :P
16:17:32  <Phazorx> cant count like that
16:17:39  <Phazorx> XeryusTC: care to do profile run ?
16:17:41  <XeryusTC> yes we can ;)
16:17:47  <XeryusTC> no :P
16:17:53  <XeryusTC> it took only 20% of my total cpu
16:17:56  <XeryusTC> or sth
16:18:11  <Phazorx> yeah... but xp sees 200% as total
16:18:19  <XeryusTC> no
16:18:24  * Hendikins isn't using Windows, perhaps that helps?
16:18:25  <XeryusTC> it sees 100% as total
16:18:55  <Phazorx> of one core full load is 50% - it doesnt sound like 100% to me
16:19:10  <XeryusTC> both cores full load is 100%
16:19:17  <Hendikins> My Bartons use 32bit OpenSUSE 10.2 with 32bit openttd. My Semprons use 64bit OpenSUSE 10.2 with 64bit openttd :P
16:19:21  <Phazorx> Hendikins: linux actualy got worse performance somehow
16:19:37  <Phazorx> Hendikins: i can dcc the save
16:19:42  <Hendikins> And yes, Win32 will take 100% of all cores to be 100% CPU usage.
16:19:48  * Hendikins broke DCC.
16:20:07  <Phazorx> well i dont mind publishing it
16:20:56  * Hendikins ran dual CPU kit with Windows, albeit a few years ago now, and 100% of 1 CPU = 50% CPU usage according to task manager
16:21:24  <Phazorx> so if he gets 20% load on openttd.exe means 40% of power of one core
16:22:27  <Hendikins> And since ottd can only use one core/CPU, that means 40% of CPU power available to it
16:22:47  <Phazorx> which is mroe than 30-35% on 2500+
16:23:03  <Phazorx> current save is mroe advacned tho
16:23:10  <Phazorx> but fluctuates a lot
16:23:45  <Phazorx> do i need to ocmpile debug one for profiling, i frogot again?
16:25:40  <XeryusTC> Phazorx: you forget the fact that ottd can only use 50% of my cpu
16:26:10  <Phazorx> XeryusTC: same goes for ammlers server that has 4 cpus
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16:26:25  <Phazorx> but we are comparing appels to apples
16:26:53  <Phazorx> per core, yours should eb faster than mine'
16:26:58  <Phazorx> or at least same speed
16:27:01  <Phazorx> since it has same clock
16:27:09  <Hendikins> As far as I'm concerned dual core just doesn't have the same status as dual CPU :P
16:27:14  <XeryusTC> one core is equal to a 1900+
16:27:27  <Phazorx> really ?
16:27:32  <XeryusTC> well, about equal :P
16:28:24  * Phazorx would really liek aprofiling run
16:29:15  <XeryusTC> i think that running some futuremark cpu test is better to compare cpus than running ottd
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16:29:36  <Phazorx> i am questioning code optimization for AMD cpu
16:29:48  <Phazorx> how's futuremark is gonna show it ?
16:30:44  <XeryusTC> they have better tests ;)
16:30:56  <Phazorx> better fow what ?
16:31:07  <Phazorx> shoind openttd code quircks?
16:31:07  <XeryusTC> testing, duh
16:31:26  <Phazorx> artificial tests  is kidna silly for this subject
16:31:31  <Phazorx> i know it should eb faster
16:31:38  <Phazorx> i'm tryignt o find out why it isnt
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16:34:54  <XeryusTC> there can be a dozen of reasons
16:35:13  <Phazorx> profiling may shed some light on it
16:35:26  <Phazorx> especially if Hendikins would join the fest
16:36:09  <Eddi|zuHause3> optimisation for any kind of CPU is the compiler's job
16:36:31  <Eddi|zuHause3> it has hardly anything to do with the code itself
16:36:39  <Phazorx> hmm...
16:37:18  <XeryusTC> Eddi|zuHause3: you can influence it by what code you use etc
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16:58:30  <Wolf01> hello
16:59:15  <skidd13> Is there a funcion which gets the roadbits, as well when there are roadworks on them?
16:59:44  <skidd13> hi Wolf01 how is the brickland project goin on?
17:00:13  <Wolf01> you can see the last improvement in the forum
17:01:10  <skidd13> nice work, but I still miss AA ;)
17:01:38  <Wolf01> teach it to paint
17:02:18  <skidd13> I do the AA by Hand
17:02:56  <skidd13> Nearest neighbor fits in most cases.
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17:04:37  <skidd13> Has anyone of the devs a few time, to help me with my road_cleanup patch?
17:05:44  <Phazorx> after profiling it makes even less sense now
17:06:01  <Phazorx> 274 vs 1698 seconds
17:06:35  <skidd13> Sure a lot of new conditions. But it's not at it's final state.
17:09:19  <skidd13> I've got problems with the roadworks. Maybe an dev has a wise advice.
17:10:04  <skidd13> Phazorx: Which patch did U use?
17:10:13  <Phazorx> no patches
17:10:21  <Phazorx> i'm benching intel vs amd
17:10:24  <skidd13> Ah
17:10:42  <skidd13> Which is which?
17:11:10  <Phazorx> 2500+ vs  Xeon 5160 3Ghz
17:11:14  <Priski> :/
17:11:20  <Phazorx> visualy there was less difference
17:11:35  <Phazorx> but still in tbred favor
17:11:50  <peter1138> 1.83GHz vs 3GHz? heh
17:12:11  <skidd13> desktop VS workstation
17:12:21  <peter1138> like there's any difference
17:14:37  <Phazorx> it's a tbred not barton
17:14:43  <Phazorx> so 2000mhz vs 3000mhz
17:14:57  <Phazorx> according to taskman and top
17:15:13  <Phazorx> tbred had ~30% load while xeon was ~50%
17:15:25  <Phazorx> profiling run makes no sense to me at all
17:15:59  <skidd13> Why is there an assertion in (Get|Set)RoadBits?
17:16:38  <Phazorx> running on different 5160 now... let's see
17:17:46  <Phazorx> does gmon/profiling works different for win/unix ?
17:19:45  <Phazorx> and can anything run in background somehow affect profiling?
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17:28:44  <Chris82> does anybody know if this patch http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14819&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=140 was added to trunk or is outdated?
17:29:20  <glx> not in trunk
17:31:22  <Phazorx> glx: have you ever delat with profiling in mingw?
17:31:41  <glx> never tried very hard
17:32:00  <Phazorx> what i want to know if results are cross platfrom comparable
17:32:59  <glx> if you tell me the rev and gave me a savegame I can try
17:33:12  <Phazorx> r10620
17:33:19  <Phazorx> what os/cpu ?
17:33:36  <glx> winxp x2 3800+
17:33:45  <Phazorx> perfect
17:35:23  <Phazorx> i'm doing: openttd.exe -v null:ticks=10000 -g save/test.sa
17:35:32  <Phazorx> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/files/phazorx/test.sav
17:36:35  <Phazorx> and i really wonder what load will you see in taskman if you just openttd.exe -D -g save/test.sav it
17:37:10  <glx> I reconfigured with enable-profiling
17:37:23  <Phazorx> kinda required
17:43:07  <glx> ok openttd -D around 40%
17:44:07  <Phazorx> one core ?
17:44:20  <glx> openttd uses only one core
17:44:40  <Phazorx> 40 is sclaed to one core 40% or 40% as windows sees it ?
17:44:40  <glx> so it is like 80% for a single core cpu
17:44:47  <Phazorx> ahh
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17:46:16  <Phazorx> it doesnt rreach 80 ehre
17:46:23  <Phazorx> fluctuates quite a bit tho
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17:47:26  <Wezz6400> if you have dual core windows will never display the load on one core above 50%
17:47:27  <Phazorx> glx: can ya do a profile run plz
17:47:40  <glx> doing it right now
17:47:46  <Phazorx> Wezz6400: that was exactly my point i was trying to clarify
17:48:19  <Phazorx> on 2500 it looks like 65-70 but i seen as low as 40 and as high as 100
17:49:01  <Phazorx> nm that was due to priority
17:49:09  <Phazorx> or not
17:50:03  <glx> 10000 ticks with your save is very long
17:50:23  <Phazorx> 274 sec
17:51:40  <Phazorx> that's on mine and 180 for one Xeon and 1700 for another
17:57:09  <glx> Phazorx: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/phazorx.txt
17:58:17  <Phazorx> that makes sense for CPU perfromance... but not for taksman
17:58:21  <Phazorx> thanks
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18:01:27  <kaan> withdrawals!
18:01:38  <kaan> i hate when the net isnt working!!!!!!!
18:03:46  <Prof_Frink> kaan: Calm down, you have internets now
18:07:09  <Chris82> is  it actualy possible again to update attachments?
18:07:16  <Chris82> in the forums I mean
18:08:10  <Chris82> otherwise I'll just delete the old ones now and hope no one has linked them :D
18:08:49  <TrueBrain> Zr40: I hate it when you do that ±p
18:08:51  <TrueBrain> :p
18:09:40  <kaan> hmmm, autoslopes is twisting my brain, maybe i should take a break :)
18:10:24  <TrueBrain> or replace your brain :p
18:10:36  <kaan> ohhh, nice idea, anyone have a spare?
18:10:47  <TrueBrain> hmmm
18:10:50  <TrueBrain> let me check...
18:10:59  <TrueBrain> yup, I have one
18:11:01  <TrueBrain> mailorder?
18:11:20  <kaan> ohhh, good, ill take it, please do mail it :)
18:12:36  <kaan> it is quite fun to watch a power plant drop a level when you remove its foundation :P
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18:33:25  <Smoovious> Chris82... I was able to replace an attachment
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18:55:31  <TrueBrain> Stupid shit: /var/tmp/cross/powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu/portage/gcc-4.1.1-r3/work/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/crtstuff.c:1: error: -msecure-plt not supported by your assembler
18:55:41  <TrueBrain> Turulo: first attempt to compile the crosscompiler failed :p
18:59:58  <Smoovious> maybe it needs to be cross-compilied first? :D
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20:04:12  <kaan> is there any sort of state variable set when the game is generating a new map?
20:06:45  <Rubidium> somethinggenertatsomething
20:06:51  <Rubidium> somethinggeneratsomething
20:07:33  <kaan> so i just do this i guess : if (somethinggeneratsomething) {
20:07:35  <kaan> ;)
20:07:59  <Eddi|zuHause3> if(_generating_map)?
20:08:06  <Rubidium>  /ignore #openttd kaan
20:08:14  <kaan> hehe
20:09:09  <Rubidium> oh crap, it had a space in front of it... stupid client, you should trim strings before parsing them
20:09:53  <glx> IsGeneratingWorld() <-- that could do it too
20:10:00  <kaan> ohhh, nice
20:10:17  <Eddi|zuHause3> the joy of grep :p
20:11:29  <Rubidium> giving the complete answer isn't didactically favourable, giving a hint is
20:13:17  <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't even know if my answer was even remotely correct
20:15:18  <kaan> glx that worked wonderfully :)
20:15:35  <kaan> now im going to post my broken autoslopes patch :P
20:15:44  <kaan> well in a minute anyway
20:16:21  <Eddi|zuHause3> i thought we had enough broken autoslope patches already?
20:17:55  <Eddi|zuHause3> and i also thought it was decided that the proper way was to store slopes (or all 4 corners) explicitely in the map
20:20:43  <kaan> I didnt hear anything about that anywhere ... but then i had a nice vacation :D
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20:27:30  <Rubidium> neither did I
20:35:16  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, technically, i heard celestar saying he wanted to do it that way a year ago, but he lacked approval of the developers' committee or something :p
20:37:28  <Smoovious> well, storing 4 corners would alllow future terrain changes too... steeper slopes maybe... more  gradual height  changes... so long  as there are  sprites to support them... .. .
20:38:03  <Smoovious> and the huge headaches that come with em. :D
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20:41:10  <Smoovious> would someone using the latest nightly, type an underscore in the console, and see if the window zooms out at the same time?
20:41:20  <Eddi|zuHause3> exactly, the current system is a horrible mess of hacks and special cases for slopes
20:42:57  <Smoovious> hmm... for that matter, the console isn't showing in the right place either...
20:43:15  <Smoovious> so, not knowing if i t is ChrisIN specific right now... .. .
20:46:28  <Prof_Frink> Smoovious: No zoomout here (r10715)
20:47:40  <Smoovious> what OS?
20:47:49  * Smoovious waits for his own r10715 to compile
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20:49:09  <Prof_Frink> leenooks
20:49:39  <Smoovious> okee, thanky
20:50:04  * Smoovious tosses the penguin back.
20:51:49  <Eddi|zuHause3> [... dozens of "xxx.grf not found" messages ...]
20:51:52  <Eddi|zuHause3> dbg: [sprite] Tried to load real sprite #4627 as a non sprite. Probable cause: NewGRF interference
20:51:52  <Eddi|zuHause3> Error: !Disconnecting road vehicle.
20:51:52  <Eddi|zuHause3> openttd: /home/johannes/spiele/OpenTTD/src/openttd.cpp:110: void error(const char*, ...): Assertion `0' failed.
20:52:03  <Eddi|zuHause3> is that how this is supposed to work?
20:53:19  <Rubidium> not really I guess, but apparantly you had a savegame with ARVs and you didn't have the appropriate grfs
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20:54:54  <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... the console window is not fully painted black...
20:55:54  <Eddi|zuHause3> there is a stripe about as big as the main toolbar not painted black
20:56:19  <Eddi|zuHause3> you can see that it is part of the console window if you scroll while the console is open
20:56:56  <Eddi|zuHause3> but underscore does not zoom out for me either...
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20:59:54  <Smoovious> the viewport glitch for the console sounds like the other part of what I saw
21:00:03  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10716 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: not all windows' minimum size is actually their minimum size, so take the size of the window after WE_CREATE has been called as bare minimum size.
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21:00:45  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10717 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Fix: in-game console had a "transparent" part when opened in a game, while it did not in the menu.
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21:01:45  <Eddi|zuHause3> looks better :)
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21:24:59  <Smoovious> still getting the zoom-out with r10717 with the console open on Win32
21:25:19  <Smoovious> network
21:27:30  <Wolf01> 'night
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22:29:05  <kaan> night all :)
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