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00:17:28 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:11 <SmatZ> hello Digitalfox :) 00:21:21 <Digitalfox> hello SmatZ 00:21:39 <SmatZ> I am sorry, I didn't read who posted the report 00:21:47 <Digitalfox> No problem :) 00:21:48 <SmatZ> too bad you cannot reproduce it :-/ 00:22:02 <SmatZ> there is a chance it was caused by something else 00:22:08 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N933P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:22:09 <SmatZ> and it was just a coincidence... 00:22:12 <SmatZ> though unlikely 00:22:14 <Digitalfox> well you see i was just having some fun, and the assertion just popped like that 00:22:26 <Digitalfox> there was no vehicles or stations in that game 00:22:35 <Digitalfox> just some road building that you see in the image 00:22:46 <Digitalfox> and it was a 64 * 64 map 00:23:38 <Digitalfox> Could be related to the industry the road was going to hit ? 00:23:56 <SmatZ> Doesn't seem so 00:24:01 <SmatZ> but nothing is imposible 00:25:36 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 00:25:51 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 00:26:25 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:55:43 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:01:34 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N889P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 01:01:45 <Gonozal_VIII> there are lego trains on tv... 01:03:41 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-129-185.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 01:06:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-150-90.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:06:49 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 01:07:24 *** AlienKing [~AlienKing@CPE-65-27-99-116.new.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:07:54 <AlienKing> anyone else having trouble accessing tt-forums.net or openttd.org? I haven't been able to access either one for like 3 days now. 01:08:11 <Gonozal_VIII> no problem 01:08:46 <Digitalfox> no problem from portugal :) 01:09:04 <Digitalfox> Try a proxy, may be or ISP DNS problem 01:09:11 <Gonozal_VIII> austria.. but i don't think that matters 01:09:17 <AlienKing> gah, i don't get it wiki.openttd.org works, nightly.openttd.org works, but the regualr www doesn't 01:09:29 <Digitalfox> It matters depends the DNS being used.. 01:09:52 <AlienKing> it resolves to 81.171.98.111 01:10:10 <Digitalfox> My ISP has times were it's DNS fails and you have to use or a Proxy or insert another DNS in router 01:10:11 <AlienKing> and i can traceroute most of the way there 01:10:44 <Digitalfox> AlienKing: Try using this proxy http://www.proxyfy.net/ 01:10:59 <Digitalfox> you just have to copy paste the adress you want to check 01:11:04 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:11:40 <Digitalfox> There was atime i had problems with my ISP DNS and used that proxy to check open site and TT foruns 01:11:55 <AlienKing> yah, its probably just stuipid roadrunner 01:12:28 <Digitalfox> I'm using this DNS http://www.opendns.com/ 01:12:38 <Digitalfox> pretty cool and fast resolving names 01:13:14 <AlienKing> well, i can resolve the name fine, its just that the packets get lost in transmission after about the 10th hop 01:13:44 <AlienKing> 1-1.r1.lo.hwng.net is the last hop it gets to 01:14:11 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 01:14:29 <AlienKing> well, i can live with proxyfi for now, thanks for the link 01:14:52 *** h3lb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:15:28 *** h3lb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 01:23:36 <Digitalfox> np 01:29:48 <kyevan> the 11615 nightly play music so LOUD? 01:30:48 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B74C5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:31:29 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't think there are any recent changes to how music is played 01:32:08 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Compared to 0.5.3, it's REALLY loud. 01:32:14 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 01:32:39 <Gonozal_VIII> then... change your settings? 01:33:28 <kyevan> Sure, but it's loud compared to anything else, too 01:33:45 <kyevan> thank the gods for on-keyboard volume controls, I guess :) 01:34:35 <Gonozal_VIII> you can change the music volume ingame 01:34:47 <Gonozal_VIII> and in the cfg... 01:35:36 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe you changed it in your 0.5.3 version and now you have a new cfg with default settings... 01:36:14 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Both are fresh installs. 01:37:03 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't matter, it doesn't override the cfg 01:37:13 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B744BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:38:57 <Gonozal_VIII> that would suck, if the cfg would be back to default everytime you upgrade to a new nightly in the same directory... 01:39:20 <kyevan> except... they're fresh installs. 01:39:35 <kyevan> There WASN'T a config to overwrite! 01:40:21 <Gonozal_VIII> even in the "my documents" folder? (win) 01:40:41 <kyevan> Pretty sure so, yep 01:40:48 <kyevan> Whatever, it doesn't really matter 01:47:58 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 02:03:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-129-185.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:09:42 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 02:23:25 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: May the ducttape be with you] 02:24:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: the .cfg in my documents does not get created if a file in the working/binary dir was already found 02:25:57 <Gonozal_VIII> yes but fresh installs don't include a cfg 02:30:33 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-157-174.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:34:19 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-139-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:34:43 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 02:34:52 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:37:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:38:37 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N889P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:39:05 <Wolf01> 'night 02:39:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host137-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 02:55:33 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489DDB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:00:28 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489BEC7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:08:22 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB7B9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 03:43:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11635 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: Give a more informative debug message when encountering unknown newgrf feature in action 00 handling.(FS#1551, Bilbo) 03:43:40 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.82] has left #openttd [] 03:54:33 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-61-122.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 04:00:25 *** Ammler 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[~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:30:26 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 11:30:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:48:33 *** G [~njones@202-154-150-91.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:50:14 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:50:34 *** G [~njones@202-154-150-91.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 11:50:36 <SmatZ> hello 11:51:47 <Sionide> morning 12:05:51 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N815P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:06:19 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i59F7C33C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:11:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7D119.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:25 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:12:20 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:17:00 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:21:21 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:21:21 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 12:22:44 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:26:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:13 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 12:48:14 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-39-241.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:48:49 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 12:50:50 <Sacro> hmm 12:50:57 <Prof_Frink> mmh? 12:51:46 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:56:47 <svip> mhm! 12:57:16 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 13:00:05 <Gonozal_VIII> hmh 13:13:32 *** SirkoZ [SirkoZ@BSN-165-126-216.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #openttd 13:14:11 <Sacro> http://www.fsf.org/appeal/2007/2007-appeal-live.ogg join the campaign! 13:17:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80E3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:03 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83DB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:19:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:25:42 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:25:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:28:24 *** strong99 [~Rex@ip565eb424.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 13:28:26 *** strong99 [~Rex@ip565eb424.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 13:28:40 *** strong99 [~Rex@ip565eb424.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 13:28:48 <strong99> ey 13:28:57 <strong99> i have a question about dedicated servers 13:29:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-177-19.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:29:37 <strong99> the server see when someone tracks the server or presses refres in his list, but he get no response from it 13:29:54 <strong99> the server says quering ip adress 13:29:57 <strong99> nothing more 13:30:14 <Gonozal_VIII> upd :-) 13:30:26 <strong99> update? 13:30:34 <Gonozal_VIII> port thingie 13:30:47 <strong99> port is forwared from router 13:31:02 <strong99> if you mean that 13:31:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> UDP is what you mean 13:31:26 <Gonozal_VIII> udp, ok^^ 13:31:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> port must be forwarded for both TCP and UDP 13:31:39 <strong99> yes i have, 13:32:05 <Gonozal_VIII> 3979? 13:32:26 <strong99> and it comes on the server the server says: dbg: [NET][UDP] Queried from ip-adress 13:32:27 <strong99> yeh 13:33:15 <strong99> so if i press refresh al the time the server gets an huge list of dbg: [NET][UDP] Queried from ip-adress 13:33:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> and what is the problem now? 13:33:27 <strong99> the clients get no repsond 13:33:48 <strong99> server is offline it says 13:33:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> maybe you block outgoing UDP packages? 13:34:06 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm i think a friend of mine just found a bug 13:34:20 <Gonozal_VIII> DEM (currency) doesn't work 13:34:25 <Gonozal_VIII> it uses DIN 13:35:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> err... what? 13:36:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> "doesn't work" is not a proper bug report 13:36:32 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... with r11631 and set to currency DEM, the game starts with 14.000.000 DIN 13:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's an awfully odd number... 13:38:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> usually it should be 400.000 DM 13:39:16 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that 13:39:45 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: cannot be the problem because you start in a year when DM are replaced by Euro? 13:39:55 <Gonozal_VIII> 1920 13:40:10 <SmatZ> maybe DM were not available that time too ^_^ 13:40:35 <strong99> looks like the UDP is getting block when leaving server 13:40:37 <strong99> thnx 13:40:57 <strong99> but how do i salve that, lolz 13:42:46 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: I do not have that problem 13:43:01 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm sure? 13:43:56 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: http://88.146.45.107/ttd/DEM.png 13:44:11 <SmatZ> set to DEM, then started new game in 1920... 13:44:41 *** strong99 [~Rex@ip565eb424.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 13:45:14 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm it seems to be one of the grfs... 13:45:23 <Gonozal_VIII> i'll try to find out wich one 13:45:50 <glx> grfs can modify currencies 13:49:02 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm serbian rails 13:49:15 <Gonozal_VIII> serbian standard gauge rail vehicles... 13:49:24 <Gonozal_VIII> that changes DM to DIN 13:49:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> workaround: create a custom currency 13:50:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7D860.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:51:43 <Gonozal_VIII> i'll tell him, thanks 13:52:07 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't care much but he always wants to play with dm 13:53:12 <Gonozal_VIII> and now he is complaining that he has to use 2 instead of 1,95583^^ 13:53:43 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-209-40.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 13:54:05 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: I would like to see what was the Pound/DM ration after WW1 :-P 13:54:43 <Gonozal_VIII> aaah custom currency is with pounds 13:54:53 <Vikthor> SmatZ: Something like 10^9 and more 13:55:01 <SmatZ> :) 13:55:19 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-105-192.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:56:18 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i59F7C33C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:17 <Gonozal_VIII> aaand now he wants reichsmark, rentenmark, goldmark, inflationsmark and stuff like that... 13:58:49 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: Tell him "It's Free Software. Do it yourself." 13:59:24 <Vikthor> Tell him that with inflation prices of 192x would price of one locomotive probaly mean overflow :D 13:59:43 <SmatZ> lol 13:59:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11636 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix: it was possible to build/remove road/tram in tunnel/bridge when there was vehicle in it 14:02:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> it once was calculated that the entire money carried around in germany during the final days of the inflation could be matched with 50 cent (american) 14:02:28 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-105-192.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:21 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 14:24:34 *** divoafx [~asd@87.52.36.224] has joined #openttd 14:32:03 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:16 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:51:51 *** divoafx [~asd@87.52.36.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:40 * Sacro needs some coders 14:54:23 <SmatZ> Sacro: www.rentacoder.com ^_^ 14:54:28 <Sacro> SmatZ: hmm 14:54:35 <Sacro> i don't want to *pay* them 14:54:39 <Sacro> and where is KUDr 14:54:42 <Sacro> @seen KUDr 14:54:42 <DorpsGek> Sacro: KUDr was last seen in #openttd 7 weeks, 3 days, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <KUDr> good 14:54:45 <Sacro> :( 14:55:03 <SmatZ> :-) 14:55:05 <Sacro> hmmm 14:55:17 <Gonozal_VIII> get some slaves to code for you, you only have to pay for them once 14:55:20 <Sacro> "The problem is the order of the include directives in station_gui.cpp 14:55:20 <Sacro> For some reason unknown to me stdafx.h has to be included before list. Even explicitly including cstdint or stdint.h anywhere doesn't help here. The corrected patch is attached." 14:55:25 <Sacro> does that writing style seem similar 14:55:38 <Gonozal_VIII> if you let them sleep outside and hunt their own food... 14:55:41 <SmatZ> Sacro: is it some FS task? 14:55:44 <Sacro> err.. 14:55:48 <Sacro> wrong copy 14:55:53 <Sacro> SmatZ: possibly 14:56:33 <Sacro> i want to start the new signalling system 14:56:43 <Gonozal_VIII> yay programmable switches 14:57:02 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: well i was going to start by improving the current absolute block system 14:57:13 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: www.kidnapacoder.com 14:57:25 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 14:57:29 <Sacro> 404'd 14:57:41 <SmatZ> LOL @ Prof_Frink 14:59:12 *** SirkoZ [SirkoZ@BSN-165-126-216.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [] 15:00:13 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 15:19:34 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:21:24 <LeviathNL> Wolf01, need my help with something? 15:23:59 <Wolf01> i think no, i'm in the middle of a all-consoles-tourney-with-friends, so i think i'll do nothing this weekend :P 15:25:11 <LeviathNL> Ok, I noticed you highlighted me last Thursday. good luck with the tourney :) 15:25:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> there are people who have collected like 200 different consoles... 15:26:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> (including arcade stuff, i believe) 15:27:41 <Wolf01> we play with psp, wii and xbox360 :) 15:28:04 <hylje> wiiiiii 15:28:30 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't like consoles... with a pc you can have all in one without that expensive stuff 15:28:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> the wii concept is kinda funny 15:28:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> a friend owns one 15:29:02 <glx> yeah the wii is fun 15:29:17 <hylje> how far is the wii port of ottd 15:29:22 <Gonozal_VIII> yes but you could also attach a wii like controller to a pc 15:29:42 <LeviathNL> I don't really know of good PC-partygames. 15:29:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> performance is always a problem with PC 15:29:52 <LeviathNL> -of 15:30:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> it is designed to do everything, and because of that it can't do anything really good 15:30:30 <glx> I can't imagine wii sport on a pc 15:31:21 <Gonozal_VIII> why not? 15:35:46 * Gonozal_VIII watches his little 150hp ng engine pulling 140k litres of oil at 16 km/h :-) 15:36:10 <hylje> ;_; 15:36:14 <hylje> you evil person 15:36:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> 150hp? some cars have more than that... 15:37:41 <Gonozal_VIII> total weight of the train is 736t (multiplier x5) ^^ 15:38:39 <Gonozal_VIII> 7 4-axle tanker wagons 15:38:47 <Gonozal_VIII> poor little engine 15:38:57 <Gonozal_VIII> but i couldn't afford a stronger one 15:41:36 <Gonozal_VIII> but it makes profit :-) 15:42:51 <hylje> 1. 7 4-axle tanker wagons and a poor little engine 15:42:52 <hylje> 2. ??? 15:42:53 <hylje> 3. PROFI!! 15:42:55 <hylje> t 15:43:01 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 15:43:01 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 15:43:04 *** AlanR [~alan_russ@81-178-194-89.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 15:43:15 <AlanR> hello? 15:43:19 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 15:43:24 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB618A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:43:46 <AlanR> anyone able to help my woth building open ttd. I have a few errors with .h files :( 15:44:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> you'll have to get a tiny bit more descriptive there... 15:44:39 <Sogard> Is it possible to use more than on engine for a single train? I don't see anything on the wiki 15:44:57 <AlanR> ok, just checking I was in the right place! Haven't used IRC for about 5 years! 15:45:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> Sogard: yes, just move the 2nd engine to the train like you would do with a wagon 15:45:05 <Gonozal_VIII> try it and you'll see that it's possible 15:46:13 <AlanR> ok. I have VS2005, and both the main src and the useful package downloaded but I am getting complaints about the png.h / zlib.h etc 15:46:55 <AlanR> it can't link to the 3rd party libs. :( Would like to get it running, see if I can fix a few bugs to practice my C++ 15:47:58 <AlanR> dmusic.cpp 15:47:58 <AlanR> ..\src\music\dmusic.cpp(13) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'dmksctrl.h': No such file or directory 15:48:02 <AlanR> grr 15:49:46 <Sacro> AlanR: install the directx sdk 15:50:01 <Sacro> and copy the files out of useful.zip into the right places 15:50:53 <AlanR> ahhh direct x. ok can do that. I can't believe I do C++ for a living and this bit is flummoxing me. <shame> 15:51:24 <Sacro> the wiki has the instructions 15:51:30 <AlanR> where are the correct bits for the files? 15:51:47 <Sacro> what do you mean? 15:52:15 <AlanR> really? I was trying to follow the instructions, but can't see where to put the files from "useful" I must have the wrong page or something 15:53:36 <Sacro> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B_2005_Express_Editions 15:55:36 <AlanR> I have to say, openttd is cool great work 15:59:34 <AlanR> Sacro, cheers for the link. I owe you one 15:59:43 <Sacro> indeed you do... 15:59:48 * Sacro writes it down in his notebook 15:59:53 <AlanR> ;) 16:06:04 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm you can set the default servicing interval to 0 but you can't do that in the vehicle details 16:11:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11637 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix: mark viewports dirty when removing visible vehicle chain 16:14:47 * kyevan swears at his trains 16:18:33 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-145-144.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:41 *** Farden [~jk3farden@workstation.freenull.net] has joined #openttd 16:22:58 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N815P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:23:19 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N753P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 16:35:28 *** Farden [~jk3farden@workstation.freenull.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:08 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:52:14 *** bilbous [~bill@76-10-128-120.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 16:53:45 <bilbous> Is there any way to manage a full dedicated server using rcon? 16:54:10 <bilbous> I cannot connect to it 16:59:25 <glx> use rcon in ottd console 16:59:38 <glx> but the server must have rcon_password set 17:00:56 <bilbous> I tried that but it dumped me back to the game selection screen telling me the server was full. I forgot my company password and don't want to shut down the othe player 17:01:19 <glx> joined as spectator? 17:01:22 <Sacro> haha 17:01:22 <Sacro> fail :p 17:01:26 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:27 <bilbous> not allowed 17:01:31 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:02:06 <bilbous> can I change the option file or would it need a restart anyway? 17:02:08 <Gonozal_VIII> reset your company :-) 17:02:49 <glx> on what OS is the server? 17:02:54 <bilbous> linux 17:02:57 <glx> and how is it started? 17:03:14 <bilbous> from screen with -D 17:03:45 <glx> then you can "talk" to it in its screen terminal 17:04:57 <bilbous> ok, sounds good. what do I say? 17:05:33 <bilbous> Guess I need to drop it into the background? 17:06:10 <glx> server terminal is an ottd console 17:07:39 <bilbous> does that mean I can issue commands normally? All I see is dbg: messages and other status reports 17:08:21 <glx> you can use the same command as in ottd console 17:09:43 <bilbous> ok thank you. I'll try it and ask more if I have trouble. I have the wiki open for reference 17:09:48 <pavel1269> glx: can you see now server on 83.208.140.48? 17:10:26 <glx> still offline pavel1269 17:10:30 <Gonozal_VIII> offline 17:10:35 <pavel1269> too bad, i reinstalled whole system 17:10:43 <glx> then it is your FAI 17:10:52 <pavel1269> :-/ 17:10:58 <glx> try another port 17:11:08 <glx> like 80 17:11:43 <pavel1269> MS is trying to connect to me on 4340 ... TCP 17:11:58 <pavel1269> do i have to allow that? 17:12:23 <glx> you see MS:4340 in distant? 17:13:13 <pavel1269> ? :o 17:13:53 <glx> how do you see 4340? 17:13:58 <pavel1269> in kerio 17:14:24 <glx> in distant or local? 17:14:49 <pavel1269> local 17:15:01 <Sacro> anyone here using an IDE under Linux 17:15:30 <glx> what is distant? 17:15:40 <Sacro> I can't get anjuta to add use the project 17:15:48 <pavel1269> master.openttd.org:http :) 17:16:25 <glx> hmm that's when you connect to it with a browser :) 17:16:48 <pavel1269> so i have to allow that? 17:17:34 <glx> there's no reason for it to connect to you from http 17:17:45 *** bilbous [~bill@76-10-128-120.dsl.teksavvy.com] has left #openttd [: Thank you for the help] 17:18:00 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:01 <pavel1269> i wonder where should be error :/ 17:18:06 <pavel1269> or problem 17:18:08 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:18:56 <pavel1269> since forwarding seems to work, kerio allow ... 17:19:00 <pavel1269> and nothing 17:19:37 <pavel1269> can my internet provider block it when i see that? :/ 17:21:56 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:54 <pavel1269> okay :/ 17:27:04 *** PieConsumingFool [~alan_russ@81-178-194-89.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 17:27:23 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl7-180-175.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:28:49 *** toet [~cheese@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has quit [] 17:29:19 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-180-175.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:19 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:27 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 17:29:38 *** AlanR [~alan_russ@81-178-194-89.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:21 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-100-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:30:36 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 17:30:37 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-100-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:31:18 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:18 *** xintron [xintron@blinkenshell.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:35 *** xintron [xintron@blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 17:31:58 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 17:32:23 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N753P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:08 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:03 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N753P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:56:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:57:31 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:57:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:58:55 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 18:15:28 *** SirkoZ [SirkoZ@BSN-142-21-37.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:14 *** SirkoZ [SirkoZ@BSN-142-21-37.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [] 18:18:15 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-209-40.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:26:21 <Vikthor> Sacro: I actually tried anjuta and failed too 18:27:06 <Vikthor> Well if you mean adding OpenTTD as project from existing sources 18:28:05 <Sacro> yeah, i do 18:31:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:31:04 <Vikthor> I have been giong through their mail archives and to me it seemed like they focused on projects which are using autotools 18:31:32 <Sacro> hmm, i never went into their archives 18:40:07 <kyevan> Does destroying fields reduce farm production? 18:41:05 <Gonozal_VIII> no 18:48:33 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 18:48:37 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 18:48:39 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:29 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:50:50 *** shodan [~user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:55 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:05:27 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:06:12 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 19:06:16 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:07:15 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl7-180-175.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:08:02 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-180-175.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:09:01 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 19:09:49 *** toet [~cheese@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has joined #openttd 19:10:41 <LeviathNL> strange i can only connect to a limited number of sites via this ad hoc wireless network 19:10:48 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:12:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> then you probably have a DNS problem 19:14:41 <LeviathNL> using ip does not work either 19:15:02 <Bjarni> then you might be firewalled 19:15:12 <Bjarni> are you connecting from China or something? 19:15:19 <Gonozal_VIII> "I have a right to resurrect this year old topic, and shall do so by saying: Can a mod lock this?" <-- that's so lol^^ 19:15:34 <Bjarni> o_O 19:15:37 <Bjarni> URL? 19:15:45 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=28231 19:16:06 <LeviathNL> no, and the computer i have a ad-hoc connect with can connect to all sites. 19:16:44 <Bjarni> maybe you have been targeted by a Chinese virus 19:17:18 <LeviathNL> on linux? 19:17:20 <Bjarni> hey nice idea.... a virus that blocks certain servers 19:17:26 <Bjarni> hmm 19:17:51 <hylje> randomly 19:17:59 <hylje> and at random itmes 19:18:03 <hylje> sometimes works sometimes not 19:18:07 <Bjarni> no.... sites about democracy 19:18:08 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 19:18:10 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: www.asdf.com] 19:18:13 <Bjarni> and personal freedom 19:18:29 <Bjarni> for all we know EU would like such a virus as well 19:18:53 <Bjarni> LeviathNL: please take your problem elsewhere.... to somewhere where people can actually help you 19:19:07 <LeviathNL> I will 19:19:18 <LeviathNL> sorry for being off topic 19:20:17 <Sacro> hello Bjarni 19:21:34 <Bjarni> LeviathNL: it was ok. Usually people in here knows stuff but your issue is.... weird 19:21:37 <Bjarni> hi Sacro 19:21:47 <Sacro> Bjarni: how is your Saturday? 19:21:48 <Bjarni> Sacro: did you learn something about posting links? 19:22:28 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:22:39 <Sacro> Bjarni: why would I? 19:22:43 <Bjarni> like declaring that they aren't offf topic even if they look like it to somebody who didn't really read what people said 19:22:46 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:15 <Sacro> i think i got an apology 19:23:30 <Sacro> anywho, i've been facebook stalking 19:24:35 <Bjarni> on who? 19:27:18 <Bjarni> sometimes the news says odd stuff... a 12 year old girl got on the wrong train and realised that it didn't stop at the station she was supposed to get off at. She then forced opened the door and jumped off while the train was driving 120 km/h 19:27:23 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 19:27:38 <hylje> :o 19:27:39 <Bjarni> now she is in the hospital 19:27:48 <Bjarni> go figure 19:28:17 <hylje> i suppose the news potrayed the train as the evil 19:28:24 <Bjarni> not really 19:28:30 <hylje> what a surprise! 19:28:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, the question is, why could someone force open the door at high speed? 19:28:50 <Bjarni> http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/krimi/article.php/id-9736495.html 19:29:11 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: that's another good question 19:29:26 <Bjarni> and I can't answer that one 19:29:32 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N753P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> the only way i know to force open the door is with the train leader's key 19:31:06 <Bjarni> I don't think she had one of those 19:31:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> Bjarni: your link redirected me to some ad site... 19:31:31 <Bjarni> huh? 19:31:45 <Bjarni> now that sounds really wrong 19:32:44 <Bjarni> it should be an article in Danish about this incident 19:32:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i just loaded it in the background, and suddenly i got a popup window asking me to "optimise my system" 19:32:52 <Bjarni> which happened to happen in Germany 19:33:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> (aka install spyware) 19:33:23 <Bjarni> it goes without saying that they use a picture of a Danish train... one that should really lock the doors while driving 19:33:45 <Bjarni> ... 19:34:07 <Bjarni> I don't get it 19:34:13 <Bjarni> are you sure this site gave it to you? 19:34:24 <Bjarni> because in that case it's really serious 19:34:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> i did nothing else at that time 19:35:06 <Bjarni> yesterday a (different) news site was hacked to install spyware on browsers 19:35:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> the site properly loaded fine this time 19:35:17 <Bjarni> but AFAIK it didn't tell the user about it at all 19:36:52 <Bjarni> this link is part of the tv2.dk domain... one of the two biggest TV stations in Denmark 19:37:02 <Bjarni> I can't say that it's the biggest but I think so 19:37:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i kinda doubt they are targeting konqueror exploits, which only a marginal amount of surfers actually use... 19:37:44 <Bjarni> heh 19:38:02 <Bjarni> well... even with popup killers off it didn't say anything in firefox 19:38:09 <Bjarni> bbl (dinner) 19:41:47 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 19:44:39 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:46:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11638 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: use faster check in SignalVehicleCheck for tunnel/bridge 19:47:37 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause3: No popup/redirect here 19:48:05 <Prof_Frink> (Konqui 3.97) 19:48:25 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:38 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:53:08 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-145-144.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:58:03 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N779P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:58:21 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm strange 19:58:46 <Gonozal_VIII> regular 8h disconnect but this time i didn't get a new ip, just 0.0.0.0 19:59:32 <Gonozal_VIII> tried to reconnect a few times, turned off the router and modem... nothing worked but then suddenly it worked again 19:59:56 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:56 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:59:57 <Tefad> wooo stupid ISPs 20:04:25 <svip> \o/ 20:28:39 <Sacro> hmm 20:30:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11639 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Codechange: simplify EnsureNoVehicleOnGround 20:31:20 <hylje> oooh, refactoring! 20:32:47 <Sacro> zomg 20:32:50 <Sacro> how cool! 20:34:24 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 20:35:40 <SmatZ_> sorry :( 20:36:09 <SmatZ_> I just want to divide commits into small parts 20:37:28 <hylje> refactoring is cool, go for it 20:37:31 <Digitalfox> SmatZ_: No need to apologize, good refactoring is always welcome :) 20:38:01 <SmatZ_> ok thanks :) 20:39:19 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:41:52 *** toet [~cheese@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has quit [] 20:41:57 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 20:52:18 *** toet [~cheese@87.110.194.35] has joined #openttd 20:52:40 <Farden> !playercount 20:52:49 <Farden> ho... no server? 20:53:01 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm? 20:53:11 <Bjarni> Farden: wrong channel 20:53:30 <Farden> oh yeah... 20:53:31 <Farden> oops^^ 20:54:49 <Sacro> !pass... 20:54:55 * Sacro whistles 20:57:47 <Prof_Frink> !failword 20:58:16 <Bjarni> Sacro: say the word 20:58:23 <Sacro> the word 20:58:32 <Bjarni> good bot 20:58:36 <Bjarni> *boy 20:58:37 <Sacro> thanks 20:58:42 <Bjarni> hmm 20:58:48 <Bjarni> in your case... same thing :P 20:58:54 <Sacro> you like my bot :O/ 20:58:55 <Sacro> ? 20:59:02 <Bjarni> not really 20:59:10 <Bjarni> but I do like my own robot 20:59:22 <Bjarni> I learned it not to drive into cardboard boxes 20:59:28 <Sacro> you learned it? 20:59:59 <Bjarni> well.... I told it a lot of rules and following my rules it can figure out how to navigate around boxes and still get to the goal in question 21:00:14 <Sacro> sweet 21:00:31 <Bjarni> notice: I gave it rules, not functions 21:00:50 <Bjarni> it's not coded in anything remotely like C 21:00:52 <Gonozal_VIII> you've got a robot? 21:01:10 <Bjarni> well... sort of 21:01:16 <Bjarni> we have a bunch of them at uni 21:01:24 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... 21:01:36 <Bjarni> "small mobile robots" 21:01:43 <Bjarni> that's the name of them 21:01:53 <Sacro> we just have first years and beer 21:01:55 <Sacro> similar concept 21:02:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> meaning wheels, various sensors and some kind of processor glued together? 21:02:09 <Bjarni> banging into walls all the time? 21:03:42 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/talon-swords-02.jpg <-- that's what google thinks is a small mobile robot 21:03:51 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: sort of... 4 wheels, IR sensors, line sensor (looking at the floor), wheel rotation sensors.... all put together to a micro ATX motherboard with a 450 MHz Pentium... or something like it 21:04:09 <Bjarni> heh 21:04:20 <Sacro> not a lego robot 21:04:24 <Sacro> programmed using LOGO? 21:04:26 <Bjarni> we got better robots... that one will not be able to pass our gates :P 21:04:50 <Bjarni> <Sacro> programmed using LOGO? <-- no... I used Jess 21:04:51 <Gonozal_VIII> then it will shoot a hole into the wall or something^^ 21:05:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> i am sure that has close resemblance to Bjarnis robot ;) 21:06:21 <Bjarni> http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s991088/smr/SMR_BOX.mov <-- here it is... I recorded this like half a year ago.... I used C for coding it back then 21:06:48 <Bjarni> don't care about the talking in the background.... people say something totally unrelated 21:07:43 <Bjarni> now I will split you into two groups... those who really like the video and those who can't watch .mov files 21:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> kaffeine is not really useful for online streaming with low bandwidth 21:08:24 <Sacro> wtf is that wierd language 21:08:27 <Bjarni> hehe 21:08:49 <Bjarni> <Sacro> wtf is that wierd language <-- so you agree with me that they speak garbage.... I thought so 21:09:15 <Gonozal_VIII> ever tried using yapf for the robots?^^ 21:09:31 <Bjarni> yeah 21:09:49 <Bjarni> this one can figure out where to go even without using the black lines 21:10:38 <Sogard> So is there no real way to boost a raw materials amount of output? I have trains constantly at the station picking up oil yet it only drops. Any advice? 21:10:47 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chaos2.jpg 21:10:49 <Sacro> whoo 21:11:13 <Bjarni> http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s991088/smr/SMR_GOAL.mov <-- and here it reached the goal 21:11:14 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 21:11:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: in order to use YAPF you need a "satellite view" of lines 21:11:51 <Gonozal_VIII> the robot wars robots don't have programming, they are remote controlled 21:11:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's funny how you can drag and drop URLs from the konversation window into an open konqueror window 21:12:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> try that on windows :p 21:12:20 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> ever tried using yapf for the robots?^^ <--- it would demand that the robot is aware of the whole "map" while driving, including if some bozo is blocking the way 21:13:15 <Gonozal_VIII> it could scan its surrounding with stereo cameras to detect paths and obstacles :-) 21:13:37 <Bjarni> btw... imagine what it's like to code such a robot... we got the input as raw sensor input and then we had to write functions to convert it to useful data like SI units and such 21:13:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: but that has nothing to do with yapf 21:14:05 <Gonozal_VIII> then it has a map and can apply penalties :-) 21:14:09 <Bjarni> Gonozal_VIII: that's not YAPF.... also it's kind of tricky to do that without a camera 21:15:09 <Bjarni> those 3 black things on the front... they measure distance to an object in front of it so it tells if there is something in front of the robot 21:15:32 <Bjarni> but they only measures in a strait line so it will get the distance to 3 dots on an object 21:15:46 <Bjarni> and can miss something like the leg on a chair or table 21:15:58 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-177-19.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:21 <Gonozal_VIII> use one dot and let it rotate :-) 21:16:21 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-215-50.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:16:28 <Bjarni> if you will use them to generate a map then you will have to stop and slowly turn to make the map 21:16:48 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@workstation.freenull.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:54 <Bjarni> but they make only 6 measurements every sec so it could take a while 21:17:11 <Gonozal_VIII> that's not much 21:18:04 <Bjarni> the sensor to tell the black line is much faster so it can follow the black line at high speed and is blind for whatever might be in the way in front of it 21:18:37 <Bjarni> also max sensor distance is 1 meter 21:18:59 <Bjarni> min distance is 20 cm (shorter range will give too high readings) 21:20:00 <Bjarni> depending on quality of software calibration and background noise (like sunlight) the max distance could be reduced to 50 cm if you want a reliable signal/noise radio to prevent false readings 21:20:18 <Bjarni> in short: they could be better 21:20:49 <Digitalfox> I don't get this.. I'm palying a game in 2015 with TTRS 3.02 and i just builded a bank and the graphics being use for the bank are this http://users.skynet.be/florisjan/ttd/images/Big-Bank20-50.png 21:20:52 <Bjarni> not to mention that since it's based on light then it can miss stuff like glass 21:21:24 <Gonozal_VIII> that happens to people too^^ 21:22:00 <Digitalfox> Well by this in temperate http://users.skynet.be/florisjan/ttd/ttrs.html#gte are other graphics :\ 21:23:05 <Gonozal_VIII> parameter set to mixed buildings? 21:24:06 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-145-144.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:12 <Digitalfox> Let me explain better i'm playing in temperate in 2017, with only TTRS 3.02 loaded.. Now my problem is that the graphics that appera for the bank don't seem to be right 21:24:38 <Digitalfox> Here you can what graphics should in every age http://users.skynet.be/florisjan/ttd/ttrs.html#gte 21:24:44 <Digitalfox> *appear 21:25:03 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@workstation.freenull.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:25:06 <Digitalfox> But what 'm getting for the graphics of the bank is this http://users.skynet.be/florisjan/ttd/images/Big-Bank20-50.png 21:25:27 <Gonozal_VIII> i know and i asked if you changed the 2nd parameter 21:25:48 <Digitalfox> no 21:26:01 <Digitalfox> the other buildings are from 2010 and beyond 21:26:18 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6823.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:15 <Gonozal_VIII> then maybe it doesn't select the correct sprite for user built structures... 21:36:12 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 21:36:31 <Gonozal_VIII> does anybody see a server running at 84.57.48.223 ? 21:39:00 <pavel1269> i do 21:39:24 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm but i don't :-/ 21:40:06 <Gonozal_VIII> i've been playing on that server for the last hours and now i can't see it anymore 21:41:02 <pavel1269> lol :) 21:41:20 <pavel1269> OTTD server should be on something like hamachi :) 21:41:29 <pavel1269> everyone should start server 21:42:50 <Gonozal_VIII> hamachi doesn't connect either... 21:43:13 <Gonozal_VIII> guess my isp sucks today 21:43:31 <Rubidium> Gonozal_VIII: or your range has been banned 21:43:51 <Gonozal_VIII> no... a friend of mine is running that server 21:44:37 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N779P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:53 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 21:45:51 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N941P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:46:34 <Gonozal_VIII> new ip and everything works again... 21:46:40 <Bjarni> what is so good about hamachi? 21:47:22 <Gonozal_VIII> i usually don't need it for openttd but it's useful for some other games 21:48:21 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 22:00:31 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11640 /trunk/src/core/random_func.cpp: -Fix: missed change of include when moving stuff to random_func.cpp 22:19:00 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 22:23:56 <Sogard> I can't believe I never played with realistic accel before 22:24:04 *** h3lb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24:36 *** h3lb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 22:26:13 *** toet [~cheese@87.110.194.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:43 *** toet [~cheese@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has joined #openttd 22:30:02 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 22:38:53 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 22:39:22 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 22:40:10 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip68-98-65-74.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:41:09 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:33 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 22:46:42 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip68-98-68-12.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:42 *** Sogard^ is now known as Sogard 23:02:47 <pavel1269> gn 23:03:21 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 23:11:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11642 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: VehicleFromPos does check for v->tile == tile, so remove useless checks 23:19:23 <Wolf01> 'night 23:19:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host137-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:20:54 <kyevan> Is openttd's multiplayer v6-capable? 23:21:29 <Progman> v6-capable? 23:21:32 <Gonozal_VIII> v6? 23:22:17 <SmatZ_> I don't think so 23:22:25 <SmatZ_> ipv6 23:22:32 <Gonozal_VIII> ah that 23:22:34 <kyevan> IPv6, yeh. 23:23:40 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 23:24:01 <Rubidium> I don't think so 23:24:11 <Rubidium> at least the whole masterserver<->client protocol is not 23:25:12 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 23:26:07 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 23:27:03 <Rubidium> nor does the masterserver have an IPv6 IP address, so that makes resolving the 'source' IPv6 address a little more difficult too 23:33:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@nat5.suchdol.net] has joined #openttd 23:38:02 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:38:06 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:37 <kyevan> We need NOT and AND signals. 23:40:41 <valhallasw> O_o 23:40:49 <kyevan> (Presignals are OR) 23:41:04 <kyevan> valhallasw: Aw, come on! being able to build a calculator of trains would be awesome :P 23:41:41 <valhallasw> hmm 23:41:46 <valhallasw> what about a brainfuck implementation 23:42:17 <kyevan> Mmm 23:42:21 *** Viktho1 [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:51 <kyevan> Actually, being able to build more complex signal rules, using some sort of scripting language that can check other signals, do logic with them, etc might actually be useful. 23:43:21 <Gonozal_VIII> i want programmable switches 23:43:41 <Gonozal_VIII> (that's the first time i say that, really!) 23:45:38 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@nat5.suchdol.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:28 <kyevan> While we're at it, lets give users script hooks all over the game, especially in scenarios, so we can have Interesting Things happen. (Port the SimCity lizard monster for silly scenarios, anyone?) 23:52:10 <valhallasw> that actually would be useful :p 23:53:55 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess the disasters are some kind of scripts 23:54:13 <valhallasw> should actually be fairly easy to script to game ticks 23:58:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]