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00:00:48 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:07:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: may have to do with the game loosing focus before geting the "release key" event 00:07:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> i once got that while holding RMB 00:11:11 <ln-> or "losing" with one o 00:15:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: i will always and forever make that mistake 00:16:10 <ln-> ok, carry on 00:18:17 <Gonozal_VIII> what happens to the hd of a laptop in a maglev train when you place the bag containing it on the ground? 00:19:22 <ln-> either you have a very big bag or a small train. 00:19:37 <Gonozal_VIII> containing the laptop^^ 00:19:42 <Gonozal_VIII> not train 00:19:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> inside a metallic object, there should be no outside magnetic or electric fields 00:21:06 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:20:55] Bartleby: magnetfeld geht schon mal rein 00:21:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faradayscher_KÀfig 00:21:39 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that... and he knows that even more, he studied physics 00:23:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> electric and magnetic fields depend on each other 00:26:04 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:25:16] Bartleby: gibt halt kein em-feld mehr, aber magnetfelder lassen sich schlecht abschirmen 00:28:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> so what does he think the "m" in "em" means? 00:29:01 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:28:43] Bartleby: statische magnetfelder kannst nur mit supraleitern abschirmen, wechselfelder auch mit normalen leitern, allerdings nur relativ schlecht im vergleich zu elektrischem feld 00:29:49 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:29:21] Bartleby: magnetisch, aber hier gehts nicht um ausbreitung, sondern nur darum obs eindringt 00:30:05 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:29:43] Bartleby: dass es danach keine 300 mio kilometer mehr ausbreitet is wurscht 00:31:33 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-2.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:32:09 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:31:47] Bartleby: wenn e-anteil vom em-feld abgeschirmt wird breitets sich halt nicht mehr uasi unendlich weit aus sondern nimmt in stÀrke ab, aber dringt trotzdem noch ein 00:32:12 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B041F18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:30 <Gonozal_VIII> i would translate that stuff but i don't understand it... 00:42:23 *** killer [~m@dslb-082-083-234-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57:16 <ln-> wtf, i bought a 8-port 10/100 ethernet switch, and it has a driver disc with it?? 00:57:21 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:57:38 <Gonozal_VIII> so? 00:58:43 <ln-> you don't see anything strange in that? 00:59:05 <Gonozal_VIII> erm... no? 00:59:22 <glx> a switch doesn't need any drivers 00:59:34 <glx> you just plug it in the network 01:00:20 <Gonozal_VIII> i have lots of stuff with useless drivers 01:00:37 <Gonozal_VIII> usb stick, mouse, hd... 01:00:57 <glx> usb stick contains drivers for win98 in them :) 01:01:15 <glx> it needs to work for you to be able to get the driver 01:01:23 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 01:01:30 <Gonozal_VIII> great^^ 01:02:37 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: having drivers for a switch is something like having drivers for the power cord of your computer. 01:14:13 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-13-111.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16:31 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB721F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 01:29:31 <kyevan> 20:28 < publicserver> kyevan: Wow, I didn't DC? 01:29:31 <kyevan> 20:28 < publicserver> kyevan has left the game (connection lost) 01:29:36 * kyevan laughs 01:31:32 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:38:02 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:00:15 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 02:05:11 <TinoDidriksen> http://darkmonkey.org.uk/4/MOTIVATION/428/ - trains gone wrong. 02:05:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:06:31 <Gonozal_VIII> wow... 02:06:53 <Gonozal_VIII> that's like mikado with wagons 02:08:44 *** RoKK [RoKK@dsl54008490.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 02:12:03 <kyevan> Does ottd use unicode internaly, or? 02:13:14 * kyevan 's trying to figure out if it's ottd or publicserver's fault things like ñ don't copy nicely across from ottd to irc 02:23:12 <glx> yes 02:25:08 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:25:08 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:48 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:35:32 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 02:35:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 02:47:21 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 02:48:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 02:53:53 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N767P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] 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joined #openttd 05:49:38 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:02:43 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-27-37.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:07:54 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:35:00 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:35:27 <roboboy> how do I set the server to pause if there arent two people connected 06:37:12 <Rubidium> something with "min_players" I guess 06:37:47 <roboboy> ok 06:37:51 <roboboy> thanx 06:39:49 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:40:23 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:40:38 <Rubidium> growing up quickly? 06:40:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D110.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:45:55 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:07 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:51:52 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-131-107.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 06:52:59 *** Thijs [~thijs@dhcp-077-249-252-173.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:03:01 *** roboman is now known as roboboy 07:17:42 *** michi_cc [a312d1fde6@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 07:17:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 07:25:25 *** dlunch [~dlunch@220.123.132.44] has joined #openttd 07:38:31 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 07:39:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11672 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: refactor some stuff out of gui.h. 07:50:21 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-138-097.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:55:12 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-158-049.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:55:31 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 08:05:31 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:24:34 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has joined #openttd 08:35:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11673 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: move the overflow safe type to a separate file. 08:37:49 *** dlunch [~dlunch@220.123.132.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44:32 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl7-176-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:46:09 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 08:46:31 *** dlunch [~dlunch@220.123.132.44] has joined #openttd 08:46:43 *** dlunch [~dlunch@220.123.132.44] has quit [] 08:58:00 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:16:13 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:25:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host30-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:25:50 <Wolf01> hello 09:27:50 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-27-37.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:30:21 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-108-34-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 09:30:24 <Draakon> hello 09:30:31 <Draakon> and Merry Christmas! :P 09:33:14 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:35:27 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-27-37.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:35:48 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:38:13 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 09:38:28 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:38:55 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 09:42:10 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001ac3151fb2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 09:52:28 <Gekz_> it feels good to bleeeeeeed 09:52:33 *** Gekz_ is now known as Gekz 09:52:43 <Draakon> lol! 09:58:24 *** dlunch [~dlunch@220.123.132.44] has joined #openttd 10:15:44 *** RoKK [RoKK@dsl54008490.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 10:36:22 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-108-34-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:11 <roboboy> I can not get a dedicated server to open a specific game of mine 10:47:35 <roboboy> im on windows and it closes too quickly 10:47:53 <roboboy> I can get it to start a brand new game 10:48:12 <roboboy> I want to load one that I was runing from a GUI server 10:54:38 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5683D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:59:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> missing grfs? 11:01:36 <roboboy> how do I get it to recognise the GRF's 11:01:53 <roboboy> i have the cfg as I was runing the GUI server 11:02:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> same binary? 11:02:22 <roboboy> yep 11:02:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> same directory structure? 11:02:26 <roboboy> windows 11:02:29 <roboboy> yep 11:02:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> then i have no idea 11:02:57 <roboboy> or atleast i think so 11:03:36 <roboboy> openttd is in Openttd on my desktop and the cfg is in my documents and I have not moved any files 11:06:13 <roboboy> can I force a cfg? 11:06:39 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:07:21 <pavel1269> hi 11:08:08 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, -c <file> 11:17:01 <roboboy> i got it working a long way round 11:17:01 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5683D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:17:15 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:17:43 <roboboy> i forced the cfg then loaded the game after starting a random map 11:23:54 <roboboy> will using rcon password server name change the name after the server started 11:26:34 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-58-168-19-44.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 11:29:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E3CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined 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17:00:51 <Gonozal_VIII> no 17:00:56 <Gonozal_VIII> this one is a day older 17:02:37 <Bjarni> and a whole lot more tired 17:02:50 <Gonozal_VIII> see? not the same 17:03:13 <pavel1269> :) 17:03:17 <Bjarni> I'm also have experience from yet another day 17:04:46 <pavel1269> Bjarni: saw my last patch? finaly one that dont "overdrives system" as you said :P 17:04:46 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04:58 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 17:05:04 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:05:12 <Bjarni> hmm 17:05:20 <Bjarni> what was your patch doing? 17:05:32 <Gonozal_VIII> cfos speed is not helping... 17:05:34 <TinoDidriksen> http://darkmonkey.org.uk/4/MOTIVATION/428/ - trains gone wrong. 17:05:44 <Bjarni> even just a week ago is ages ago during exams and stuff ;) 17:05:53 <Belugas> pavel1269, true. but i would point out that it must be terrible on cpu usage... personnal feeling.. 17:06:23 <pavel1269> hmm .-/ 17:06:26 <Gonozal_VIII> that check 25 surrounding tiles for house thing? 17:06:38 <pavel1269> yes 17:07:05 <pavel1269> *24 :) 17:07:18 <Gonozal_VIII> that's why i thought it would be easier to look for roads with sidewalks... 17:07:49 <Gonozal_VIII> only one tile then 17:08:11 <pavel1269> and what abou these houses? http://pavelg.wz.cz/ottd/lol/pic02.png 17:08:17 <pavel1269> it's not city ... 17:08:19 <pavel1269> ? 17:08:58 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe they shouldn't have built there 17:09:11 <pavel1269> lol :) 17:10:15 <pavel1269> wow with my patches, economy category of patches is small for them :/ 17:10:42 <Gonozal_VIII> that's like in reality... they build a new road where the cars don't have to drive through populated areas... lot prices around that road are cheap... lots of houses are built there... they have to build another road 17:11:32 <Gonozal_VIII> forgot the step where the people in those houses complain about traffic... 17:12:40 <Bjarni> real life.... that's where you can build a house next to a noisy factory and then sue the factory for the noise 17:13:38 <pavel1269> in this country it works like, if you build house near road, they will move city border and everyone is complainincg about traffic 17:13:50 <pavel1269> so who care? :) 17:14:37 <Bjarni> the people who complains 17:18:48 <pavel1269> i made test ... 0 vehicles 0% PCU, 40vehicles 0%CPU ... lets add some more :P 17:18:48 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:48 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:19:08 <Gonozal_VIII> ... stupid connection 17:19:12 <Bjarni> looks like Gonozal_VIII really likes the guy living upstairs 17:19:40 <Gonozal_VIII> it's not even him now, it's myself 17:19:58 <Bjarni> :P 17:20:03 <Gonozal_VIII> trying to get that cfos speed thing to work properly 17:21:22 <Gonozal_VIII> i have a 3072/384 connection and i'm currently downloading at 197 KB/s uploading at 25 KB/s 17:21:37 <Gonozal_VIII> priority of irc is high, torrent is low 17:21:42 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't help 17:22:33 <Gonozal_VIII> icq is even worse, disconnects every 5 minutes 17:25:09 *** peterbrett_ [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:28:49 <pavel1269> btw, patch dont use CPU taht much ... 200moving vehicles and still 0%cpu and this pc is shit 17:30:03 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:04 *** Gonozal_VIII_ [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:43:04 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51:30 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@213.186.38.50] has joined #openttd 17:58:24 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-165-246.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 482 seconds] 17:58:24 *** 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19:56:59 <Gonozal_VIII> switches :-) 19:57:51 <pavel1269> yes or no :) 19:57:52 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 19:58:20 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 19:58:21 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:55 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:59:04 <pavel1269> brb 19:59:07 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 20:00:25 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:00:42 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:05:24 <Gonozal_VIII> [21:04:49] *** Error logging into ICQ: You are attempting to sign on again too soon. Please wait ~15 minutes and try again! Do not login during this period or it will only extend itself. 20:05:29 <Gonozal_VIII> that sucks... 20:05:59 <Sacro> haha 20:06:08 <Sacro> i didn't think ICQ could suck any more than it used to 20:07:23 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:34 *** another_nick [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 20:08:55 <another_nick> and irc always complains that my nick is already in use... 20:10:11 <Wolf01> use the ghost command 20:10:24 <another_nick> ah, oftc supports that? 20:10:30 <Wolf01> i think yes 20:11:08 <Wolf01> at least, i have a small script which ghosts, changes nick and identify on join 20:11:14 <Wolf01> and works 20:13:02 * Belugas vomits on work 20:13:38 <another_nick> i don't think that's helping to get it done belugas 20:14:34 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N854P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:53 <Belugas> nope :) but it feels ice imagining my boss's head alld covered up and smelly heher 20:15:07 <another_nick> ^^ 20:15:51 *** another_nick is now known as Gonozal_VIII 20:20:24 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 20:21:55 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:22:35 <Gonozal_VIII> i have that now too... i guess^^ 20:22:49 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't need a script, it's a single line 20:23:47 <Gonozal_VIII> thanks for the tipp 20:25:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> why would a one liner be less a script than any other script? 20:25:32 <Gonozal_VIII> you don't need a script for that, you can just type it :-) 20:25:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> why would you type something, when you can script it? 20:26:01 <Belugas> depnds of the lenght of said line :P 20:26:24 <Gonozal_VIII> well i don't... but you could 20:26:53 <Gonozal_VIII> for an average user that doesn't get disconnected every 20 minutes 20:27:12 <pavel1269> :D 20:27:15 <Gonozal_VIII> the line is /nickserv regain nick password 20:31:54 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm that's a lollerscater 20:33:10 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2> why would you type something, when you can script it? <-- usually I just write the stuff I need to do. Otherwise I have to remember what I called the script and where I put it and so on 20:33:37 <Bjarni> an exception is my release script. I made it to ensure that all releases are made with the same settings so yes I made a one line script 20:34:32 <Gonozal_VIII> perform script is kinda built in... can't forget where i put it 20:34:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i thought more of a kind of perform script, that will be executed automatically each time you join, no matter if the ghost is actually there or not 20:34:57 <Bjarni> in my world a script is a shell script 20:35:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> you sir have a very limited world... 20:36:25 <Bjarni> are you trying to bash my world? 20:36:37 <Bjarni> I already did that :P 20:44:08 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44:50 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 20:45:25 <Gonozal> hmmm that's bad 20:45:54 <Gonozal> perform gets executed after successful connection... nick already in use doesn't count as success 21:00:46 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489B80A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:05:42 *** Gonozal_ [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:05:42 *** Gonozal_ is now known as Gonozal_VIII 21:05:42 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10:01 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 21:11:22 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 21:16:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11676 /trunk/src/ (os/macosx/splash.cpp os2.cpp video/win32_v.cpp win32.cpp): -Fix (r11674): some references to macros.h were left 21:20:23 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FCED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:23 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:28 <fjb> Moin 21:20:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E3CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:57 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:20:57 *** Gonozal is now known as Gonozal_VIII 21:24:30 <kyevan> wait, os2.cpp? 21:24:35 <kyevan> As in, OS/2 os2? 21:24:57 <Belugas> yes 21:24:59 <Belugas> why? 21:25:05 <kyevan> No reason 21:26:27 * fjb has a never used OS/2 licence somewhere. 21:27:16 <kyevan> One of my friends has a used install with no license. 21:27:23 <kyevan> Can we say that you and him balance out? :P 21:27:34 <fjb> I guess not... 21:32:08 *** DeGhost [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33:42 <kyevan> Can ottd load TTD saves/scenarios? What about TTo? (Might as well ask) 21:34:16 <Bjarni> think about that question 21:34:25 <Belugas> easiest answer would be TRY IT, but yes, they can be loaded 21:34:28 <Bjarni> are the vehicles themselves compatible? 21:34:36 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B0436C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: BigBB] 21:34:48 <kyevan> Bjarni: Dunno, are they? 21:35:02 <kyevan> I first started playing on ottd, I've never played on the other engine versions :P 21:35:06 <Gonozal_VIII> tto had different vehicles afaik 21:35:31 <Bjarni> TT has more steam and no maglev if I recall correctly 21:36:52 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:36:52 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:55 *** Gonozal is now known as Gonozal_ 21:38:09 <Gonozal_> perform thing doesn't work.. 21:38:28 *** Gonozal_ is now known as Gonozal_VIII 21:39:46 <ln-> a hit! 21:40:16 <Gonozal_VIII> a hit? 21:40:44 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Still toying with cFos speed? 21:40:58 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... doesn't seem to do anything 21:41:10 <Gonozal_VIII> lots of free bandwidth 21:41:17 <fjb> I can not do anything in your case. 21:41:20 <fjb> It 21:41:28 <Bjarni> http://www.1chan.net/rail/src/1197832985589.jpg <-- btw speaking of monorail and maglev... check this one out 21:41:34 <fjb> I read the technical documentation yesterday. 21:41:39 <Gonozal_VIII> it should, i'm only downloading on my pc now 21:41:56 <hylje> /rail/ 21:41:59 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 21:42:07 <fjb> Poor cat. :-) 21:42:24 <Bjarni> I think it actually decided on being there on it's own 21:42:28 <Bjarni> for whatever reason 21:42:33 <fjb> Bjarni will end like that some day for kicking people. 21:42:38 <Gonozal_VIII> cats do weird things and sleep in weird places 21:42:58 <Bjarni> end like what? 21:43:03 <Bjarni> being single railed? 21:43:07 <fjb> Yes 21:43:39 <Bjarni> but... 21:43:46 <Bjarni> I used two rails all day 21:43:59 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: If cFos speed doesn't shape your own traffic it is horrible broken or not correctly installed. 21:44:22 <Bjarni> http://www.1chan.net/rail/src/1198095986364.gif <-- hahaha 21:44:32 <Bjarni> that page has some nice pictures 21:44:50 <Gonozal_VIII> it should work... i can see the active connections and icq/irc has highest priority while torrent has lowest... 21:44:50 <hylje> you did notice the ottd thread? 21:44:58 <Bjarni> yes 21:45:05 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Does your router have a firewall? Maybe it has an idle couter that is set to a too low value. 21:45:44 <Gonozal_VIII> no firewall that i know of 21:46:28 <fjb> Not knowing of a things doesn't always prevent a thinbg from existing. 21:46:44 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that^^ 21:46:57 <Gonozal_VIII> but i'm pretty sure it doesn't 21:47:02 <kyevan> Bjarni: Monorail cat ish old >_> 21:47:19 <Gonozal_VIII> monorail cats never get old 21:47:42 <kyevan> I mean the other old 21:47:53 <Gonozal_VIII> that too 21:47:54 <kyevan> As in, 'funny, but we've all seen it before 21:49:19 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6C17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11677 /trunk/src/ (90 files in 5 dirs): -Codechange: move price and command related types/functions to their respective places. 21:51:58 <Bjarni> how should I know what you have seen without telling me? :) 21:53:07 <kyevan> If it's been on ICHC, I've seen it :P 21:54:54 *** Farden [~jk3farden@213.186.38.50] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:02:41 <Gonozal_VIII> htf on mtv :-) 22:03:26 * fjb hates three letter acronyms. 22:03:36 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 22:04:51 <kyevan> WAFLAs? 22:05:23 <kyevan> Oh, and you're supposed to say ÃÃ"I hate TLAs 22:05:38 <fjb> :-) 22:05:55 <Gonozal_VIII> Ãà <-- can't read that 22:06:48 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 22:07:14 <kyevan> that was an accidental char anyway 22:07:25 <kyevan> It's probably I with umlats 22:07:35 <kyevan> The dangers of using US-International >_> 22:09:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r11678 /trunk/src/os/macosx/macos.mm: -Fix (r11674): [OSX] fixed compilation 22:09:52 <fjb> Oh, Bjarni did something usefull. 22:10:07 <Gonozal_VIII> not useful for me, revert it! 22:10:10 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 22:10:11 <Bjarni> :P 22:10:30 <fjb> It's more usefull than the things he usually does. 22:10:39 <pavel1269> :)) 22:10:51 <Bjarni> more useful than concentrating on exams? 22:10:53 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... like robots without lasers 22:11:05 <Bjarni> and robots 22:11:06 <fjb> Or kicking people. 22:11:18 <kyevan> Oooh, lasers. 22:11:22 <kyevan> We need lasers in ottd. 22:11:27 <kyevan> Lasers... and eggplant! 22:11:28 *** fjb was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Don't spread lies.... I don't kick people] 22:11:53 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FCED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:02 <Gonozal_VIII> laser eggplants? 22:12:10 <Bjarni> anyway I passed the last exam of the year yesterday 22:12:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11679 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_commons.cpp newgrf_station.cpp): -Add: [newgrf] support for station vars 67 and 68 22:12:17 <Gonozal_VIII> nice 22:12:21 <Bjarni> so now I should be able to do other stuff 22:12:58 <fjb> PBS? 22:12:58 <kyevan> Is there documentation on the grf format for people who have no idea, anywhere? 22:13:19 <kyevan> fjb: Why do you want a pledge drive? 22:13:20 <Gonozal_VIII> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewGraphicsSpecs 22:13:23 <Bjarni> kyevan: there is full documentation on the patch wiki 22:13:33 <Bjarni> if it's not there then it's not written 22:13:43 <Gonozal_VIII> i just opened that to look what vars 67 and 68 do^^ 22:13:45 <Bjarni> but you will usually find everything you need there 22:14:40 <ln-> has anyone flown on Wizz Air? 22:14:51 <Bjarni> btw I'm pretty happy about my exam... it was an oral one and I most likely got one of the worst questions and I still passed 22:14:57 <Bjarni> :D 22:15:16 <Bjarni> on a passed/failed scale (kind of boolean scaling) 22:15:37 <Bjarni> ln-: you live dangerously 22:16:47 <kyevan> The only issue with really really big maps, is that saving takes forever :P 22:17:38 <Gonozal_VIII> that's fun in multiplayer 22:18:13 <Gonozal_VIII> (the bad kind of fun) 22:18:53 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD1FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:27 <Bjarni> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1140 <-- I'm looking at this one. Can you guys right click scroll while holding down left button to lay autorails? 22:20:27 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:56 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 22:23:56 <Gonozal_VIII> Can you guys right click scroll while holding down left button to lay autorails? <-- no 22:25:00 <Gonozal_VIII> but there's no jump 22:25:11 <dihedral> but i can scroll using the arrow keys (+shift if need be) to scroll while doing that 22:25:36 <Gonozal_VIII> yes arrow keys work 22:25:43 <Bjarni> then it looks like it's not mac specific 22:25:49 <Bjarni> I can use the arrow keys too 22:25:59 <Bjarni> hmm 22:26:27 <Gonozal_VIII> holding down the right button doesn't do anything while left button is pressed 22:26:49 <Bjarni> thanks for testing 22:26:59 <Bjarni> now I know it's not the cocoa driver acting up :) 22:27:29 <dihedral> :-P 22:27:35 <dihedral> if you want a mac thing 22:27:39 <dihedral> i know one 22:28:50 <Bjarni> it just works? 22:28:58 <Bjarni> that's a mac thing ;) 22:29:31 <dihedral> set a password in a multiplayer game from a mac and try to join form a non-mac :-) 22:29:35 <dihedral> or vise versa 22:29:40 <dihedral> company password that is 22:29:52 <Gonozal_VIII> that instant scrolling after build thing seems to be mac only 22:29:58 *** peterbrett_ [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:39 <Bjarni> dihedral: you mean the password will not work? 22:30:50 <pavel1269> i ma almost sure, not :) 22:30:56 <Bjarni> could be an endian issue 22:31:06 <Gonozal_VIII> i helped testing that, yay 22:31:16 <Bjarni> please try it with "reversed endian" 22:31:25 * Sacro reverses Bjarni's endian 22:31:40 <dihedral> i am already doing my best :-) 22:31:44 <Bjarni> so 1234567 becomes 4321765 22:31:48 <Sacro> dihedral: that's a lie, NOW WORK HARDER :; 22:31:49 <Sacro> :p 22:31:57 * Sacro grabs the whip 22:31:58 <kyevan> I've been teaching myself C from K&R. It's weird 22:32:00 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf how do you know that bjarni? 22:32:01 <Bjarni> because reading with the wrong endian flips the order in pairs of 4 22:32:04 * dihedral works harder on slapping Sacro 22:32:13 <Sacro> kyevan: K&R C is weird 22:32:45 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> wtf how do you know that bjarni? <-- by understanding what endianess and endian issues are all about 22:32:49 <dihedral> Bjarni: but the company password is being hashed now 22:32:58 <dihedral> so it should send a md5 to the server 22:33:04 <Bjarni> oh 22:33:06 <dihedral> not the clear text pw 22:33:09 <dihedral> iirc 22:33:17 <Bjarni> good point 22:33:29 <kyevan> Sacro: I'm using the second edition, rewritten for ANSI C. 22:33:35 <Gonozal_VIII> it looked complicated until i realised that it was only reversing of 4 digits at a time 22:34:48 <Bjarni> I remember when we first tested naming in MP I ended up being named "rajBin" 22:35:02 <pavel1269> :) 22:35:16 <Bjarni> no stable release ever did that to the names 22:36:02 <Gonozal_VIII> but.. shouldn't 1 still be 1? 22:36:15 <Gonozal_VIII> they had that as pw 22:36:19 <Bjarni> it should 22:36:28 <Bjarni> but if it reverses the hash... 22:36:36 <ln-> 00:15 <@Bjarni> ln-: you live dangerously <-- SAS Commuter is the way to go? 22:36:52 *** DeGhost [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 22:36:55 <Bjarni> ln-: no.... no planes is the way to go ;) 22:37:00 <DeGhost> lol portal is funny 22:37:33 <Bjarni> that's likely one of the most off topic comments that I have ever seen from a guy who just joined 22:37:55 <Bjarni> however based on what I'm told the statement should be true 22:37:58 <Gonozal_VIII> sure about that? at least it's about a game 22:38:04 <ln-> Bjarni: ferry trips to certain places take too long. 22:38:28 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:38:35 <Bjarni> ln-: actually I was kind of referring to travelling all the time 22:38:59 <kyevan> But, um 22:39:04 <kyevan> C is weird, period. 22:39:07 <Bjarni> besides... use the train 22:39:24 <ln-> Bjarni: e.g. i haven't been abroad since monday. 22:39:25 <Bjarni> kyevan: no... you just have to understand it 22:39:32 <Gonozal_VIII> if you have a perfectly good bed and enough food in reach, you shouldn't leave it... 22:40:13 <dihedral> Bjarni: but then the endianness issue could be in something that so far has not mattered 22:40:13 <dihedral> i.e. the 'generation seed' is used to salt the md5, along with the server's 'unique id' 22:40:13 <dihedral> if either of those were not correct in endianness that would cause an issue 22:40:13 <dihedral> and i never payed attention to those myself, had assumed so far that they were correct... 22:40:14 <Bjarni> I haven't been abroad since.... 2004 or 2005 22:40:19 <dihedral> :-) 22:40:21 <Bjarni> and I'm not dying 22:40:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have been in luxemburg twice this year 22:40:38 <pavel1269> 23:36 <Bjarni> but if it reverses the hash... ---- so b => d :D 22:41:00 <ln-> Bjarni: and i did use the train abroad. 22:41:03 <Bjarni> not like that :p 22:41:24 <Bjarni> why are you guys travelling so much? 22:42:03 <kyevan> God damnit, why doesn't my train move!? 22:42:09 <Gonozal_VIII> i only go to university and back... by train! 22:42:14 <ln-> kyevan: yell at it 22:42:30 <kyevan> tried that 22:42:31 <Gonozal_VIII> if you already yelled at it, do it louder 22:42:53 <ln-> kyevan: show it who's the leader 22:42:53 <Bjarni> yelling at it always works 22:43:03 <Bjarni> it lets off YOUR steam :p 22:43:22 <Bjarni> kyevan: alternatively you can get out and push 22:43:40 <Gonozal_VIII> and after you tried all that you click on the ignore signal button 22:43:48 <fjb> :-) 22:44:11 <glx> dihedral: an easy check would be to printf("%s\n", hashed_password); in GenerateCompanyPasswordHash() and then compare the output for both endians 22:44:15 <kyevan> Oh, oops, that's why. 22:44:19 <ln-> Bjarni: besides, germany is a nice country. 22:44:29 <kyevan> there was a track connection error half a world away >_> 22:44:49 <Gonozal_VIII> i knew that ;-) 22:45:34 <Gonozal_VIII> not the thing about germany, that's obviously a lie.. 22:45:53 <dihedral> glx: exactly what i was going to do :-) 22:46:01 <Bjarni> there is this thing about Germany 22:46:13 <Bjarni> it's full of.... German speaking Germans 22:46:19 <Sacro> eek 22:46:19 <DeGhost> lol 22:46:21 <Sacro> germans D: 22:46:36 <glx> dihedral: because what is sent over the network is a string 22:46:40 <Gonozal_VIII> get them off, get them off! 22:46:59 <glx> so if there's an endian problem it is before the sending 22:48:08 <dihedral> md5 is not always sent as string 22:48:42 <glx> for password it is 22:48:45 <Gonozal_VIII> but it is, i read that somewhere 22:48:50 <Gonozal_VIII> so it must be true 22:48:51 <dihedral> best example would be the unique id of the clients in the udp packets 22:49:56 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Austrians are just a strange kind of Germans. 22:50:08 <dihedral> NO.... 22:50:14 <Bjarni> Germans are a strange kind of Germans 22:50:19 <dihedral> Austrians are no where near any kind of germans 22:50:23 <Bjarni> at least some of them are 22:50:39 * dihedral is proud to be half british 22:50:52 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5aca7d32.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:50:54 <Bjarni> what about the other half? 22:51:00 <dihedral> german :-P 22:51:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11680 /trunk/src/ (56 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: refactor more out of openttd.h and functions.h. 22:51:14 <Bjarni> and does that mean that you are half a gentleman? 22:51:20 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:51:23 <ln-> who dares to set mode -c? 22:51:25 <Gonozal_VIII> and other half british 22:51:27 <Gonozal_VIII> ?^^ 22:52:04 <Bjarni> ln-: it was added because somebody showed up with a script where each letter was a new colour... impossible to read 22:52:20 <ln-> Bjarni: that's what the kick functionality is for. 22:52:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> i would be very cautious to answer any kind of question including "are you half [...] man"? 22:52:52 <dihedral> lol 22:53:10 <dihedral> anyhow 22:53:12 <kyevan> I'm half man. 22:53:15 <kyevan> And half woman! 22:53:23 <dihedral> it's 'not half' time to be getting to bed :-P 22:53:27 <Bjarni> and half child 22:53:34 <Gonozal_VIII> half man, half bear and half pig! 22:53:41 <pavel1269> gn 22:53:46 <kyevan> 'night 22:53:47 <dihedral> night 22:53:48 <Gonozal_VIII> night 22:53:49 <glx> hmm I don't see when _password_server_unique_id is sent (it is received 4 times) 22:54:00 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 22:54:18 <glx> 2 times indeed (stupid search function) 22:54:20 <Gonozal_VIII> it just loops around on the server :-) 22:54:22 <fjb> ln-: Bjarni is thinking that the kick functionality is for his own fun. 22:54:40 <Bjarni> err 22:54:40 <dihedral> glx: the tcp packets that contain info on each client 22:54:46 <Bjarni> actually 22:54:58 <dihedral> that includes the unique id 22:55:04 <dihedral> perhaps it just uses that 22:55:25 <Bjarni> -c was added when more people tried that script and we didn't want to kick everybody 22:55:34 <Bjarni> you see.... I wouldn't kick myself 22:55:35 <Sacro> ooh 22:55:42 <Sacro> Happy Apollo 8 Day ALL :D 22:55:52 <glx> found it ;) (p->Send_string(_network_unique_id);) 22:56:09 <Bjarni> Sacro: what's that all about? 22:56:23 <Bjarni> celebrating the date of a hoax? 22:56:32 <Sacro> it was launched on 21/12/68 22:56:35 <Sacro> it was no hoax 22:56:40 <Sacro> Apollo 11 might have been 22:56:51 <Sacro> 13 wasn't 22:56:53 <Sacro> i saw the film 22:56:58 <Bjarni> right 22:56:59 <Sacro> it looked too real to be faked 22:57:07 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:05:23] Bjarni: Sacro: type !password 22:57:07 <Gonozal_VIII> [01:05:23] *** Bjarni has been kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek: wrong channel 22:57:12 <Bjarni> Mission to Mars was no hoax either 22:57:14 <Gonozal_VIII> you kicked yourself :P 22:57:17 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: teehee 22:57:19 <Bjarni> they did have people up there 22:57:22 <glx> Gonozal_VIII: it was a bug 22:57:23 <Bjarni> because they made a movie 22:57:29 <Sacro> glx: looked fine to me 22:57:29 <dihedral> glx: sorry - need to correct my statement 22:57:58 <Sacro> http://qdb.us/67325 <- teeeheee, silly Prof_Frink 22:57:59 <dihedral> glx: the md5 sum and grfid of the newgrf udp packets and in the info packet is i think not sent as string 22:58:10 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> you kicked yourself :P <-- technically glx ordered DorpsGek to kick me 22:58:50 <Gonozal_VIII> you pulled the trigger not the guy that built or loaded the gun ;-) 22:59:17 <Sacro> heh, GeniusDex 22:59:21 <Sacro> not seen him in a while 23:00:34 <Sacro> oh and _Luca_ 23:00:40 <Sacro> what happened to them all :( 23:00:43 <Sacro> and peter1138 23:00:51 <dihedral> they saw you and ran 23:01:12 <Sacro> Patrick` and his really big gay 23:03:13 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:05:35 <Bjarni> "I'm not gay", "shut up. You will be in a moment" 23:05:46 <Bjarni> that one? 23:06:13 <Bjarni> GeniusDex... I don't know what happened to him 23:06:39 <Bjarni> peter1138 and _Luca_ are hit hard with real life 23:11:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E3CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:12:20 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 23:13:57 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14:20 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD1FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 23:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... on "MDR" they have a "Long Model Railway Night" (3h) 23:15:56 <Gonozal_VIII> model cows 23:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> and model trabbis ;) 23:16:31 <Gonozal_VIII> with flat tyres 23:17:24 <Gonozal_VIII> nice 23:17:43 <Gonozal_VIII> i built some models too 23:18:09 <Gonozal_VIII> but not for fun, to represent buildings... 23:18:30 <Gonozal_VIII> and furniture :-) 23:18:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> furniture in 1:87 could be fun :p 23:19:05 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 23:19:22 <Gonozal_VIII> no we did that in 1:10 23:19:44 <Gonozal_VIII> i have a model of the bed i'm lying in atm :-) 23:19:51 <Gonozal_VIII> built both model and bed myself 23:22:23 <Gonozal_VIII> model fire :-) 23:24:55 <Gonozal_VIII> they should turn realistic acceleration for rvs on 23:25:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> ;) 23:25:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> they should have model women ;) 23:27:43 * fjb thinks that Gonozal_VIII needs a real woman to really test his bed. :-) 23:28:23 <Gonozal_VIII> already did that ;-) 23:28:51 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm not the model... 23:29:07 <fjb> :-) 23:30:00 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-30.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> they have model beer ;) 23:31:49 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:32:13 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:34:00 <Gonozal_VIII> connection reset by peer instead of ping timeout after 8 minutes... that's better 23:34:23 <fjb> A better way to lose the connection... 23:36:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> an american mallet engine... impressive 23:37:19 <Gonozal_VIII> beer train^^ 23:37:23 *** peterbrett [~peter@cpc2-oxfd6-0-0-cust544.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:39:12 <Gonozal_VIII> a train driver will never be able to do anything else 23:40:01 <fjb> Beside kicking people... 23:40:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> they should have had bonsai trees ;) 23:41:34 <Gonozal_VIII> bonsai trees are normal trees that get cut a lot 23:41:39 <fjb> Wernigerode is about 30km from here. :-) 23:42:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> my grandparents live near there 23:47:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> there you have model furniture ;) 23:47:07 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> grr... 23:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> he always disappears right after i say something 23:47:28 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N759P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:47:58 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, it's your fault! 23:48:02 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 23:48:24 <Gonozal_VIII> i have the logs page open, i didn't miss anything 23:49:50 <Gonozal_VIII> there's less than 1/6 of my bandwidth in use... how can that cause disconnects all the time 23:50:16 <fjb> Upload or download bandwith? 23:50:32 <Gonozal_VIII> download... 23:50:47 <Gonozal_VIII> upload is 25kb/s from 384 kbit 23:51:31 <Gonozal_VIII> i also tried with 20, doesn't help... 23:52:46 <fjb> Hm, strange. That didn't happen when you didn't use the router yet? 23:52:50 <Gonozal_VIII> there is a setting for max halfopen in the torrent client, that was set to 8, i changed it to 5 but that didn't help either 23:53:22 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm i can't remember 23:54:04 <Gonozal_VIII> could that also be caused by the isp? 23:54:30 <fjb> It possibly could, but I don't think the ISP does it. 23:54:48 <Gonozal_VIII> they do other stuff just to annoy people... 23:54:56 <Gonozal_VIII> like that 8h disconnection stuff 23:55:01 <fjb> Ant 8 half open connections are a joke. Much higher values could couse problems. 23:55:38 <fjb> They would block p2p clients if they would try to annoy people. :-) 23:56:22 <Gonozal_VIII> why would anybody want a fast connection when p2p doesn't work on it... 23:57:23 <Gonozal_VIII> yay austria 23:57:24 <fjb> Why would the ISp care for that? :-) 23:57:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> that was so clear :p 23:57:39 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 23:57:54 <fjb> I'm having a fast connection and don't use any p2p stuff. 23:58:24 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:58:26 <Gonozal_VIII> what else could cause that? 23:58:52 <Bjarni> <fjb> I'm having a fast connection and don't use any p2p stuff. <-- some people would say that you are wasting bandwidth 23:59:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> he is running an XDCC bot ;) 23:59:44 <fjb> Mail is not rally the best use for p2p. 23:59:51 <fjb> really