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Log for #openttd on 2nd March 2008:
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00:00:29  <Gonozal_VIII> noai branch had a lot of changes lately
00:01:02  <jez9999> noai?
00:01:08  <jez9999> that sounds like... the lack of an AI
00:01:23  <Gonozal_VIII> yes, strange name^^
00:01:26  <jez9999> hmm
00:01:34  <jez9999> so the idea is one day that will be merged into the main openttd?
00:02:11  <Gonozal_VIII> yes, that's what a branch is for...
00:02:17  <Gonozal_VIII> i think^^
00:02:20  <jez9999> btw if anyone sees KUDr, tell him jez thanks him for checking the face customization stuff
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00:26:06  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r12324 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix (r6789): vehicles could be sorted in a wrong order when a vehicle name changed - cached name was not invalidated
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04:53:46  <De_Ghost> fujitsu makes garbages
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05:31:03  <Jesus_On_Wheels> hallo
05:31:38  <Jesus_On_Wheels> can someone help me with TTD, when i play it seems to cut off the sides of the screen so much that i cant see the pause button, searched but cant find any solution
05:41:16  <Jesus_On_Wheels> :(
05:42:21  <Poopsmith> resolution is probably set wrong in game options
05:42:50  <Jesus_On_Wheels> i cant find anywhere to change it
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05:43:48  <Jesus_On_Wheels> the only option i can find is full screen or windowed
05:47:28  <Poopsmith> it's directly above the fullscreen toggle button in the main game options window
05:48:24  <Jesus_On_Wheels> great
05:48:28  <Jesus_On_Wheels> thanks friend
05:48:32  <Jesus_On_Wheels> may god smile upon ye
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06:05:42  <De_Ghost> errr
06:05:44  <De_Ghost> rezie it?
06:05:55  <De_Ghost> lol
06:05:57  <De_Ghost> WOW
06:06:03  <De_Ghost> that guy was religious
06:06:04  <De_Ghost> XD
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07:03:55  <Draakon> morning
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07:10:36  <Poopsmith> sup Draakon
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07:20:16  <Draakon> hmm, does anyone here has Gonozal patchpack?
07:20:26  <LA[lord]> nope
07:21:20  <Draakon> erm, LA[lord], you know that you have logged here twice?
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07:22:02  <Draakon> now its ok :=)
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07:24:57  <LA[lord]> Draakon, changing the network.. But this IRC doesn't recognise when the other is offline.
07:26:02  <Draakon> k
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07:26:33  <LordAzamath> nice! I can't change nick when I have joined #openttd.notice :(
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07:28:15  <Jesus_On_Wheels> ello again
07:29:23  <Jesus_On_Wheels> whats the deal with openTTD, i build a station next to a forest and normally it would fill up with goods but with openttd nothing ever goes into it. have they changed the way it works?
07:30:08  <Poopsmith> station doesnt start stockpiling until an appropriate vehicle has been to the station
07:30:34  <Poopsmith> so until a wood truck or a train able to carry wood goes to that station, no wood will be waiting at the station
07:31:28  <Jesus_On_Wheels> hmm i tried that but nothing seemed to happen
07:31:30  <LordAzamath> You can change it in patch settings IIRC, but it's not really useful imo
07:31:39  <Jesus_On_Wheels> guess i didnt wait long enough
07:31:43  <Jesus_On_Wheels> thanks
07:31:49  <Jesus_On_Wheels> whyd they change it
07:32:21  <LordAzamath> Because on else way you'd have something like ratin ~20% by the time your train arrives
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09:00:32  <Jesus_On_Wheels> what does the transfer order to do trains?
09:02:32  <Poopsmith> Jesus_On_Wheels: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Feeder_service
09:03:55  <Jesus_On_Wheels> ty
09:05:20  <Jesus_On_Wheels> if i set a train to full load when that location cant actually give a good which the train can carry will it sit there forever, or only wait for full load of what it can get
09:08:54  <Poopsmith> i imagine it'll sit there forever
09:09:01  <Poopsmith> havent tried it tho
09:10:14  <LordAzamath> Jesus_On_Wheels, it'l wait thereforever :)
09:10:29  <LordAzamath> unless you transfer cargo there
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09:12:46  <Jesus_On_Wheels> hmm i just experiemented
09:13:23  <Poopsmith> experimenterer
09:13:28  <Jesus_On_Wheels> i had a train that gets 4 different goods and it waits for one good to be fully loaded but not the others and then leaves, which is alright i guess, would be good if you could set which good you want to get a load of
09:14:16  <Poopsmith> it'll get whatever goods it can from that station
09:14:44  <LordAzamath> there is a patch setting LEave if any cargo full or something like that..
09:15:01  <LordAzamath> So you can set it to wait all cargos full too
09:15:24  <LordAzamath> and there is a patchso you can set which cargo to gull loaad
09:16:07  * Poopsmith is boredish
09:16:46  <LordAzamath> * Poopsmith is boring
09:16:53  <Poopsmith> yep, pretty much
09:17:10  <Poopsmith> my weekend has basically consisted of openttd
09:17:15  <LordAzamath> :(
09:18:05  <Poopsmith> and i was hoping to try out playing coop, but my connection to the openttdcoop server is painfully slow, so i gave up on that idea
09:19:00  <LordAzamath> Poopsmith, atm nobody can play there
09:19:08  <LordAzamath> too nmuch server load
09:19:15  <Poopsmith> ahh, so its not just me
09:19:17  <Poopsmith> thats good
09:19:56  <Poopsmith> bad that noone can play there, but good that its not just my international connectivity sucking
09:23:30  <Poopsmith> cos i'm running an openttd server, but i cant play on my own server because my ping to it is so bad :P
09:25:14  <Jesus_On_Wheels> har har
09:25:47  <Jesus_On_Wheels> why is there lag, the game doesnt have to be that in sync with the server does it
09:26:17  <Poopsmith> still needs to be fairly in sync
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09:26:58  <Poopsmith> not like a FPS, i mean if i was playing Battlefield 2 i would consider 80ms an unacceptable ping, whereas i can play pretty alright on bvestation, which is 350ms for me
09:27:28  <Poopsmith> but it does still need to be in sync
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09:29:08  <Jesus_On_Wheels> the computer in this game im playing keeps going bankrupt and then selling their crappy company to another computer for two dollars which in turn fails because they took over the crappy routes
09:35:59  <LordAzamath> don't use AI
09:37:09  <jez9999> lo
09:37:10  <jez9999> lol
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09:40:59  <LordAzamath> hello Purno
09:44:33  <jez9999> how can i talk to someone from the NoAI branch?
09:46:51  <Poopsmith> my guess would be that a forum post would be your best bet
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10:16:05  <Draakon> hello
10:17:02  <guru3> 'lo
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10:37:44  <Draakon> hmm
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10:39:01  <Draakon> question: why trains make a stop on station if they have a non-stop order on it? (PBS network)
10:40:08  <Gonozal_VIII> patch compatible nonstop
10:40:51  <Draakon> hmm right forgot that :P
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10:58:46  <Draakon> hmm
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11:00:33  <Draakon> on normal signals, if there is jam, trains will try to look for free path on both directions, but with PBS if they cant find it in the dircetion they were going, they will just wait for endlessly in the other direction, why?
11:00:57  <Patrick`> PBS was reintroduced?
11:01:05  <yorick> in a patch
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11:22:46  <Jesus_On_Wheels> u turn off AI? so whats ur aim then?
11:25:14  <LordAzamath> Jesus_On_Wheels, eee.. Build a nn effective nice network trains >1000 and no jams
11:25:17  <LordAzamath> ratings up
11:25:39  <LordAzamath> like #coop style
11:27:18  <Patrick`> massive MASSIVE amount of trains
11:27:25  <LordAzamath> ?
11:27:26  <Patrick`> I still have a save somewhere from when I topped out at 300
11:27:33  <Patrick`> but it was a struggle
11:27:41  <Patrick`> when you have 10+ people working on it ...
11:27:47  <LordAzamath> :)
11:27:55  <LordAzamath> And all with very high skills
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11:28:08  <LordAzamath> And a plan
11:28:10  <Patrick`> town removal's a chore
11:28:17  <Jesus_On_Wheels> i still dont understand the train AI wholley. i make a whole bunch of tracks which do fine and then i do the same style and they start jamming
11:28:22  <Patrick`> trees, bomb a house, trees, bomb a house, trees, bomb a house
11:29:12  <LordAzamath> Patrick`, demoloish a large area.. Plant trees, get rid of some houses.. demolish a large area.. Plant trees, get rid of some houses.. :P
11:29:18  <Patrick`> that's what I meant
11:29:32  <LordAzamath> yeah.. but you only remove houses nt trees
11:29:41  <Patrick`> no, that's what I actually meant
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11:29:44  <Patrick`> I just typed it wrong
11:29:50  <LordAzamath> treehugger :(
11:29:59  <LordAzamath> ^^
11:30:04  <Patrick`> it's the only way to regenerate bare earth
11:30:34  <LordAzamath> to be treehugger`? Come on.
11:30:54  <Patrick`> to get a town to like you enoough to destroy it
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12:09:07  <Joy> password
12:09:25  <Gonozal_VIII> missing ! for a kick
12:09:32  <Joy> !password
12:09:47  <Gonozal_VIII> hmm no kick
12:10:03  <Joy> Sorry?
12:10:38  <Gonozal_VIII> writing !password usually results in a kick with reason wrong channel :P
12:11:00  <Joy> Is this nog the openttdcoopserver then?
12:11:04  <Joy> nog = not
12:11:12  <Gekz> lol
12:11:15  <Gonozal_VIII> nope
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12:12:23  <Gonozal_VIII> hmm i guess i could have been more helpful^^
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12:25:24  <LordAzamath> Gonozal_VIII, you could but why?
12:25:31  <LordAzamath> !password
12:25:34  <LordAzamath> !wiki
12:25:39  <LordAzamath> !grf
12:25:41  <LordAzamath> ^^
12:25:48  <LordAzamath> bot fails
12:26:35  <SmatZ> glx is not here
12:27:28  <LordAzamath> SmatZ, glx is the bot?
12:28:00  <ln-> done watching 4x05 [x]
12:28:04  <SmatZ> glx has scripts to kick you for !password and similiar
12:28:20  <yorick> !wiki
12:28:28  <yorick> that should kick me
12:28:40  <LordAzamath> why aren't they in Dorpsgek?
12:28:47  <yorick> they should be
12:28:50  <LordAzamath> yorick, glx is not here.. but he has logs
12:28:59  <LordAzamath> ^^
12:29:00  <SmatZ> :-D
12:29:18  <LordAzamath> [14:25] <LordAzamath> !password
12:29:19  <LordAzamath> [14:25] <LordAzamath> !wiki
12:29:19  <LordAzamath> [14:25] <LordAzamath> !grf
12:29:19  <LordAzamath> [14:25] <LordAzamath> ^^
12:29:25  <LordAzamath> oops
12:29:29  <LordAzamath> ^^
12:30:34  <yorick> ^^]
12:33:09  <yorick> ^_
12:33:11  <yorick> ^
12:33:34  <LordAzamath> v_v
12:38:04  <Gekz> n_n
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12:57:47  <LordAzamath> :O.. I was kicked :O
12:58:13  <yorick> :O
12:58:17  <yorick> that took a while
12:58:18  <LordAzamath> O:
12:58:44  <LordAzamath> I've said already I'm not watching IRC all the time :P
12:59:04  * LordAzamath turned speakers on
13:00:01  <Jesus_On_Wheels> u should be
13:05:17  <LordAzamath> Jesus_On_Wheels, why?
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13:19:30  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12325 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIEngine:CanRefitCargo()
13:21:43  <ln-> does someone want to comment on this potential PC configuration: http://pastebin.com/m63cdab77
13:33:22  <Eddi|zuHause3> no.
13:34:45  <lolman> ln-, sure a 500w PSU can power a quad and an 8800GT?
13:35:13  <ln-> not sure.
13:35:17  <lolman> Think you may want something beefier
13:37:00  <Gonozal_VIII> and that's a boring case
13:37:28  <ln-> tell me a non-boring case.
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13:39:27  <Wolf01> hello
13:39:28  <Gonozal_VIII> build your own :-)
13:40:42  <Patrick`> ln-: buy an expensive PSU.
13:40:45  <Wolf01> what, castle?
13:40:50  <Patrick`> the wattage rating tells practically no story at all
13:41:10  <Patrick`> a cheap 500w will waste 200w as heat and fry everything when it dies which it will do within 6 months
13:41:26  <Patrick`> an expensive one will be quiet, unassuming, cost 60 quid, and work for 10 years
13:41:53  <Patrick`> antec, it's good, it'll be fine
13:42:03  <Patrick`> I have an 8800 and an AMD64 off a 380
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13:42:19  <Patrick`> aah, remember when AMD64 was *the* chip for gamers :)
13:43:35  <ln-> i'll go to the store myself to place the order, i can ask them what they think about that PSU.
13:44:39  <SpComb> Antec's PSUs used to melt a lot, but I think recently they've gotten better in that aspect
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13:45:57  <ln-> i was considering Asus P5KC for the motherboard, but found a lot of negative comments about it by googling.
13:46:41  <ln-> i hope gigabyte is not crap.
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13:47:44  <SpComb> It's been a long time since I looked at desktop hardware, so I don't know anything about those
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13:48:57  * SpComb is still using the hardware that he bought in October 2005 quite happily
13:49:14  <SpComb> runs CoD4 at 1280x1024 well enough
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13:53:07  <ln-> what do i lose if i choose GF 8600GT instead of 8800GT?
13:53:28  <ln-> would be a hundred euros cheaper.
13:53:35  <SpComb> midrang/high end?
13:54:21  <SpComb> I bought an almost-top-of-the-range-7800GT (only one better was the 7800GTX) for 400 €, and have been very happy using it for over two years
13:54:51  <SpComb> as opposed to, say, having bought a 6800GT that wouldn't be able to run CoD4 sensibly
13:56:47  <ln-> then again, i mostly need 3D acceleration for X-Plane nowadays.
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15:10:13  <yorick> where is yapp_followtrack gone?
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15:11:12  <Eddi|zuHause3> yorick: apply a patch only to the exact revision it was written for
15:11:27  <yorick> that makes no sense when trying to update one
15:11:34  <SmatZ> yorick: it is gone
15:11:40  <yorick> I know
15:11:51  <SmatZ> in r12252
15:12:11  <Eddi|zuHause3> yorick: i'd suggest let the cooder handle it himself
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15:12:17  <Eddi|zuHause3> -o
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15:13:01  <aztaric> hi, im trying to install ttd on ubuntu .. but i need the orginal data files .. where can iget them?
15:13:12  <glx> on your TTD cd
15:13:13  <ln-> from your original TTD CD.
15:13:59  <hylje> (or floppies?)
15:14:23  <Eddi|zuHause3> i have never heard of ttd floppies
15:15:02  <SmatZ> TTO was on floppies
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15:16:31  <Eddi|zuHause3> my TTO was 2 floppies worth of data put on a CD
15:17:01  <SmatZ> :-D
15:18:13  <hylje> 'cause i recall a TT on floppies
15:18:37  <ln-> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Atari-Transport-Tycoon-Replay/dp/B00005LDJB/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1204470996&sr=8-1
15:21:15  <SpComb> is there some develop-openttd-on-win32 howto somewhere?
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15:21:43  <Slowpoke> I got an error: http://powl.co.nr/error.jpg I wonder if its from openttd itself or related to a (poor coded) grf-file?
15:23:30  <SmatZ> Slowpoke: how did this happen?
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15:23:59  <Slowpoke> simply popped up, I did nothing...
15:24:22  <LordAzamath> Well you obviously did something..
15:24:27  <Slowpoke> I installed some new grfs and played for like 15 minutes or so and then it happened
15:24:29  <LordAzamath> Did you have any grfs?
15:24:34  <SmatZ> it could be a town growing
15:24:48  <LordAzamath> ttrs?
15:25:00  <glx> Slowpoke: beta3?
15:25:15  <Slowpoke> r12320
15:26:30  <glx> you can reproduce it?
15:26:50  <Slowpoke> I will try
15:26:50  <SmatZ> Slowpoke: did you switch GRFs during gameplay?
15:27:09  * LordAzamath reboots to linux as new #openttdcoop game is starting soon
15:27:23  <Slowpoke> yes
15:27:31  <SmatZ> well...
15:27:36  <glx> don't do that :)
15:27:49  <LordAzamath> me?
15:28:01  <SmatZ> LordAzamath: no
15:28:01  <LordAzamath> I just was pressing reboot button
15:28:04  <Slowpoke> I got that error yesterday after installing a town-replacement-set and I uninstalled that set afterwards, but it happened again...
15:28:09  <LordAzamath> and tyou said don't do it.. :P
15:28:19  <SmatZ> :-)
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15:28:33  <SmatZ> LordAzamath: I said something?
15:29:01  <SmatZ> Slowpoke: 1x1 building could be replaced by something that is not 1x1 building
15:29:09  <SmatZ> so house properties changed
15:29:16  <SmatZ> and this assert came later
15:29:23  <SmatZ> nothing can be done with that
15:29:51  <SmatZ> do not change GRFs during gameplay, there is a big