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I know it's a ctrl-click, but how exactly? 07:55:58 <Ammler> you can check the costs with shift key 07:56:28 <Noldo> echinos: click goto and then other vehicle with ctrl you get shared orders 07:56:33 <echinos> ah, ok 07:56:35 <echinos> cool 07:56:40 <echinos> shouldn't be too bad 07:57:22 <echinos> does the convert tool allow me to do the whole map at once if I'm zoomed out? 07:57:50 <Ammler> yes, if you still don't have the whole map, you could use viewports 07:58:23 <echinos> k 07:58:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 07:59:04 <echinos> umm... the track doesn't look different 07:59:07 <echinos> :/ 07:59:26 <Ammler> did you use a newgrf? 07:59:56 <Ammler> do you 08:00:33 <echinos> only a train set 08:00:40 <Ammler> whcih one? 08:00:44 <echinos> canadian trains 08:00:55 <echinos> no maglev.. awww crap 08:01:01 <echinos> that must be it 08:01:01 <Ammler> :-) 08:01:27 <Ammler> well, why should u 08:01:40 <Ammler> use canada trainset, if you like to use maglev? 08:02:02 <echinos> I'm a newbie, I haven't ever used maglev yet 08:02:09 <Ammler> you can send all trains to depot 08:02:17 <Ammler> remove the newgrf 08:02:32 <Ammler> but save first :-) 08:02:46 <Ammler> but maglev isn't worth 08:03:11 <echinos> well, one thing I like in the canset is the 105-passenger bi-level cars 08:04:03 <echinos> I dunno if there is a maglev equivalent 08:04:29 <echinos> Why isn't maglev worth it? 08:10:18 <peter1138> canadian trainset replaces maglev with narrow gauge 08:14:38 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:16:16 <echinos> ok, I'll have to take a look at that 08:16:32 <peter1138> heh 08:16:52 <peter1138> basically if you want maglev... use the default engines :) 08:17:08 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E57D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:17:09 <peter1138> ukrs and dbsetxl have maglev, but limited to passengers, mail & goods 08:17:19 <Roest> morning 08:18:21 *** 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10:49:18 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:49:18 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:29 <xahodo> I've switched monitors recently and... well, switched resolution (1024x768 -> 1600x1200), 10:50:23 <xahodo> Now, I want to set a different font for openttd, but the wiki isn't of much help on what I need to tell it. 10:50:52 <xahodo> Do I just need to give openttd the name of the font, or must I give it a full path to the font? 10:50:56 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:52:31 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:51 <Ammler> Heya xahodo :-) 11:00:58 <xahodo> Hi Ammler 11:01:06 <Ammler> iirc, you can put the name OR patch to the cfg... 11:01:16 <Ammler> path 11:01:35 <xahodo> That's nice. 11:01:44 <Ammler> just try and tell me then :-) 11:01:55 <xahodo> Any advice for a font? (got quite a load here :) ) 11:01:57 <Ammler> never changed the fonts 11:02:12 <Ammler> tahoma or verdana could be nice 11:05:44 <xahodo> hhmmmm... tahoma isn't that nice, think I'll search on. 11:05:59 <xahodo> I'll skip webdings :) 11:09:21 <Ammler> xahodo: did you try verdana? 11:09:30 <xahodo> No, not yet. 11:10:23 <Ammler> How is the legal situation, are you allowed to use windows fonts with linux? 11:10:36 <Ammler> if you have a windows license? 11:10:50 <xahodo> yuck, too thin. 11:11:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11:07 <Ammler> (just wondering, if I can still sleep well further. ;-) 11:11:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:11:58 <Ammler> hmm, is there a option to make them bold? 11:12:41 <xahodo> Arial is a nice small font, though 11:13:46 <Ammler> have you Impact ? 11:13:55 <peter1138> bold you want 11:14:02 <peter1138> what's wrong with the default font? ;) 11:14:22 <Ammler> just because he said, it is to thin... 11:14:25 <xahodo> with that I agree, though I find arial to be quite visible for the town names and in game menu items. 11:14:26 <Ammler> +o 11:14:27 <peter1138> the gui doesn't yet scale, so increasing the font size won't work much 11:14:37 <xahodo> I though those were small, but they appear to be medium. 11:14:56 <Ammler> small might be the pixel font... 11:14:57 <peter1138> Ammler: the default font is not thin... 11:15:12 <peter1138> small is the tiny 3x5 font 11:15:48 <peter1138> 1600x1200 on what size monitor, btw? 11:16:32 <xahodo> peter1138: well, the main menu is clear, but in game town/industry/station names and menu items are not clear to me. 11:16:42 <xahodo> 20,1" 11:17:30 <peter1138> hmm, on normal zoom that's the same font 11:18:23 <xahodo> Can the on screen labels and menu items be given a separate font? 11:22:29 <peter1138> no 11:22:37 <xahodo> :( 11:23:36 <xahodo> Would be nice to have that, as I don't want to change the font for the main menu and the various dialog boxes. 11:24:47 <Ammler> peter1138: how is the default font called? 11:24:47 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:25:08 <peter1138> what do you mean by called? 11:25:17 <Ammler> the name 11:25:22 <peter1138> errr 11:25:24 <Ammler> or is it included in TTO? 11:25:27 <peter1138> it has no name 11:25:42 <peter1138> and in that case, the question should start with what, not how 11:27:35 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:27:43 <xahodo> Well, unless Ammler wanted to call the font :D 11:28:01 <Ammler> somehow, I like the original font the most :-) 11:33:45 <peter1138> xahodo: that's why i asked what he meant by call :) 11:34:29 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:34:35 * xahodo walks to the phone, and... wait, what's its number again? 11:34:51 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:37:10 <peter1138> 0898 6736 883 11:37:19 <Gekz> PHONE NUMBER 11:37:22 * Gekz dials 11:45:34 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-87-239.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:31 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:37 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:53:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C5B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:24 *** mikl_ [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl_] 11:54:52 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 11:55:44 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 11:59:08 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:46 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:06:04 *** Roujin [HydraIRC@c240.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #openttd 12:06:12 <Roujin> greetings 12:22:09 <peter1138> seasons? 12:26:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... some time i need to rotate out my old hard disks... they seem to randomly shut down every once in a while 12:26:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> brb 12:26:31 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75E1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7691F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:06 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 12:33:17 <kaan> hi all 12:33:38 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 12:35:05 *** Touqen_ is now known as Touqen 12:36:29 <Touqen> I'm your private dancer. Dancing for money... 12:36:40 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:38:36 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.98.163] has joined #openttd 12:41:34 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 12:41:57 <Roujin> is current trunk broken? 12:42:27 <ln> i hope not, Tron would get a heart attack. 12:43:13 <Roujin> i get errors in a completely unrelated file when trying to compile a patched version.. 12:44:29 <Roujin> hmm i can't compile clean trunk either 12:44:48 <Roujin> lots of errors in player_gui.cpp ... 12:47:07 <Roujin> r13116 compiles fine, so r13117 seems to be broken 12:48:49 <Rubidium> compiles fine for me 12:49:05 <Roujin> weird 12:49:32 <ln> for me too, the problem is in your head. 12:49:50 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-177-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:08 <Roujin> ln: please don't get personal, or I might start to cry 12:50:13 <Roujin> and you don't want that 12:50:15 <Belugas> maybe clean then build? 12:50:40 <Roujin> I'll try 12:51:02 *** Vessajono [vessajono@nikita.tnnet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:51:09 <ln> then cry? 12:51:39 <Sacro> then die? 12:51:39 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-152-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:22 <Roujin> oh my.. 12:52:46 <Sacro> lol... sigh 12:53:20 *** Vessajono [vessajono@nikita.tnnet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:56:15 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:24 <Roujin> nope, still fails oO 12:57:38 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57:47 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:57:49 <Rubidium> b0rked compiler? 12:58:06 <ln> a conflict? 12:58:34 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:58:42 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:58:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:59:55 <Roujin> my gcc 3.4.5 / mingw combination never did me wrong before :( 13:00:23 <glx> let me guess: FS#2010 ? 13:00:59 <Touqen> defeated! 13:02:07 <Roujin> hmm..nope? can't see the connection to FS#2010. -- it is weird though.. it gives me errors like "52: error: extraneous `char' ignored", though on line 52 of that file there is no 'char' to be seen anywhere oO 13:02:41 <glx> I had this before 13:03:15 <glx> it was caused by me pasting 'middle dot' and my editor showing the same for spaces 13:04:27 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:05:55 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:16 <Roujin> hmm but I just reverted and cleaned and then compiled, so it should be a clean copy of trunk no? 13:07:03 <Roujin> ok now i've checked out a fresh copy of trunk in a new folder, lets see now >< 13:07:17 <glx> I have the error too :) 13:08:48 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 13:11:28 <Roujin> woo.. nothing's wrong in my head :P 13:11:40 <glx> checking with MSVC 13:12:09 <Touqen> I still think you're crazy :D 13:12:44 <Roujin> you may have a point there mate 13:12:57 <glx> and msvc has no problems 13:13:07 <glx> that's weird 13:13:46 <Touqen> I got my economic stimulus money today 13:13:56 <Touqen> And it's all going to pay off credit card debt :/ 13:17:17 <peter1138> credit card debt... har harr 13:17:21 <Eddi|zuHause> now imagine what you could do with all the money if you didn't have a credit card 13:17:49 <Touqen> I'd rather have a small amount of credit card debt than no credit card. 13:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no use for a credit card 13:18:14 <Touqen> That card got me through the last few years of college. 13:18:21 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E1FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause> it makes absolutely no difference whether the lower limit of "money" is 0 or -2000 13:20:37 <Roest> it makes a difference if you haven't reached the lower limit 13:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you want to buy something really big like a house, it does not make any sense not to wait another month till you can afford it 13:21:09 <Touqen> That's basing it on the assumption you can wait that long. 13:21:30 <Touqen> Generally waiting till you an afford food isn't going to work out in your favor. 13:21:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13118 /trunk/src/player_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make classes of the EndGameWindow and the HighScoreWindow. 13:21:57 <Eddi|zuHause> then you a) did not plan the money according to your needs 13:22:07 <Touqen> Sometimes it just isn't possible. 13:22:21 <Eddi|zuHause> and b) have the same trouble no matter what the limit is, because you will hit the limit one way or another 13:23:04 <Eddi|zuHause> and c) you have relatives for that kind of problem 13:23:19 <Touqen> Yea, I had my mom give me money. 13:24:36 <Eddi|zuHause> no really, if it doesn't take 10 years to pay off, a credit is worthless 13:24:40 <Touqen> Anywho, I don't think it's bad to have a card to fund occasional budget defecits, which mine were. 13:25:49 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: so you go to an ATM to get 500 dollars out of it to pay the hotel you stay in? When you're abroad ofcourse 13:26:09 <Touqen> Yea, but you need to have some kind of credit account to be able to get that 10 year loan at a reasonable APR. 13:27:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i have not been abroad that often, but "no credit card" does not mean "no means of electronic payments" 13:27:47 <Eddi|zuHause> in germany, "electronic cash" (Maestro) cards are more widely accepted than credit cards (visa, for example) 13:27:52 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:28:22 <Touqen> It's nice to have when the company you work for sends you abroad to a country where the exchange rate is 1:2 and you only have a debit card for a 0 GBP hotel charge and only have 00 in your bank account. 13:28:54 <Touqen> And it take until the next payday for the company to reimburse you for your expense. 13:29:08 <Roujin> right, gotta go now.. see you guys and good luck finding the issue with gcc compiling glx ! 13:29:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd never use my personal money for company trips 13:29:36 *** Roujin [HydraIRC@c240.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 13:29:37 <Eddi|zuHause> honestly, what kind of company is that? 13:29:46 <Touqen> I don't travel enough to have a company card. 13:29:52 <Touqen> So, they just reimburse me. 13:30:25 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:33:30 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:34:19 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: but is that the same abroad 13:34:36 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: how should i know 13:35:53 <Rubidium> your European Maestro card works only at the 7-eleven ATMs and some (1 in 20-ish) normal bank ATMs in Japan for example 13:36:11 <Rubidium> whereas you can use a creditcard also to pay train tickets (with some difficulty) and hotels 13:37:16 <Eddi|zuHause> but really, that is an entirely different problem than paying for things you could only afford next month 13:38:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and paying enormous fees and interest which you could have spared while just waiting another month 13:38:31 <Rubidium> okay, the 20+% interest is not that nice ;) 13:39:37 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13119 /trunk/src/timetable_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the timetable window. 13:39:42 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:43:50 <Touqen> You suck if you have 20+% interest. And if you get paid within the grace period, then you don't have to worry about interest. 13:54:58 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e67.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 13:55:11 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-49-170.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:01:36 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01:44 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:01:57 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 14:09:10 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:09:17 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 14:09:27 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 14:09:43 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:11:33 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 14:11:39 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:12:24 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 14:12:32 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:17:14 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:27:30 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 14:31:13 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 14:31:35 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:31:43 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 14:32:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33:55 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:34:35 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 14:35:31 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:36:31 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 14:37:24 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:16 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43:38 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e67.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 14:46:15 *** ropiku [~chatzilla@89.39.35.66] has joined #openttd 14:51:23 * Belugas would like to be sent abroad. doubt much work would be accomplished :) 14:51:35 <Belugas> apart ottd meetings :D 14:53:45 <peter1138> Sacro wants to be sent a broad 14:53:53 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.0.42.75] has joined #openttd 14:59:47 <Touqen> I left all my spares in my other house. 14:59:47 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:29 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.0.42.75] has left #openttd [] 15:04:27 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 15:05:52 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:05:52 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14:18 <Roest> lol planetmaker 15:14:43 <Touqen> random? 15:14:49 <Roest> nope 15:15:16 <Touqen> Seems random from where I'm sitting. 15:15:46 <Roest> "seems" is right 15:15:49 <planetmaker> Hi Roest :). I'm pleased that I serve your joy :) 15:16:06 <Roest> reviving another corpse? 15:16:17 <planetmaker> May I know why? 15:16:27 <Roest> if you're interested i have another task for you 15:16:51 <planetmaker> Oh, I think I have sufficient tasks right now :). But go right ahead... 15:17:02 <Roest> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=33956 15:19:43 <planetmaker> Looks nice :) 15:20:26 <Roest> it rocks, i want to add this to the pack 15:21:00 <Roest> so maybe i get someone to do the slave labour or i'll do it myself 15:25:33 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:31:12 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl_] 15:31:22 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.98.163] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 15:36:50 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:44:09 *** Grek [~Grek@c83-252-194-35.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 15:48:55 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.0.42.75] has joined #openttd 16:00:52 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E1FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 16:02:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:34 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:07:24 *** ropiku [~chatzilla@89.39.35.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:25 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.0.42.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:11:46 *** Touqen is now known as Touqen_ 16:12:06 *** Touqen_ is now known as Touqen 16:24:28 <Roest> HandleWindowEvent is private, how is something like w->HandleWindowEvent(&e); done nowadays? 16:24:59 <planetmaker> Roest: this->... 16:25:34 <Roest> nah 16:26:18 <planetmaker> see? I'm not good at slave labour ;) 16:26:20 <Eddi|zuHause> why would you want to handle a window event by bypassing the sending of a window event first? 16:26:40 <Roest> well it's roujins evil doing 16:27:33 *** Grek [~Grek@c83-252-194-35.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:21 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:40:33 *** michi_cc-away is now known as michi_cc 16:42:07 <Belugas> Roest, what are you attempting to do? 16:42:59 <Belugas> i kow that there is a problem with handling GUIPlaceProcDragXY, but i doubt that's what you're working on 16:43:06 <Roest> trying to get roujins dragndraw terraforming to work 16:43:19 <Belugas> hoo... so indeed... 16:44:14 <Roest> but since this is the 15th patch i'm updating, i guess i'll just leave it out this round 16:45:38 <Belugas> i still wonder how it can be done, to be honest. I guess that changing the param signature of GUIPlaceproc would be the cleanest way to go, but i feel a bit uneasy with it 16:49:34 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:50:01 <LordAzamath> Hmm.. My openTTD seems to hang every time I try to clpose it...' 16:50:22 <LordAzamath> gonna try and see what happens with debug mode 16:50:35 <glx> LordAzamath: mingw? 16:50:49 <LordAzamath> ? What's that? 16:50:55 <LordAzamath> :P 16:51:09 <glx> what compiler are you using? 16:51:24 <LordAzamath> I didn't compile it 16:51:36 <LordAzamath> And I'm in Linux :P 16:51:47 <LordAzamath> So no mingw 16:51:48 <glx> ha ok, so I don't know :) 16:52:34 <LordAzamath> Last three lines from-d 3 were these: dbg: [yapf] [YAPFr]- 3- 55 us - 11 rounds - 10 open - 10 closed - CHR 0.0% - c3113(sc0, ts0, o0) -- 16:52:35 <LordAzamath> dbg: [net] [udp] closed listeners 16:52:37 <LordAzamath> dbg: [net] [core] shutting down network 16:52:57 <LordAzamath> Maybe I don't have some packs installed.. 16:53:07 <LordAzamath> I today downloaded the binary.. 16:53:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.200.46] has joined #openttd 16:53:12 <LordAzamath> Over a long time 16:53:31 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:39 <LordAzamath> And I didn't have libexpat for example 16:54:12 <LordAzamath> rev is 13032 :P 16:54:55 <LordAzamath> Very possible I downloaded some build for wrong distro though 16:55:14 * LordAzamath is going to install make and other things to be able to compile 17:00:09 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.204.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:08 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 17:14:04 <Roest> i think pax dest is gone for good now 17:14:25 <Eddi|zuHause> what did you do to it? 17:15:04 <Touqen> It's really really old. 17:15:12 <Touqen> And it's really really messy codewise. 17:15:40 <Roest> unless you want to take my last working patch which is r13019 and update it 17:15:49 <Touqen> I have, sort of. 17:16:02 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it has always been both 17:16:05 <Touqen> Though, it's hardly throughly tested and I think it crashes here and there. 17:16:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the question was what changed now 17:16:24 <Touqen> Oh, the save/load was what crashes now. 17:16:43 <Roest> the code changes with the gui classes 17:16:45 <Touqen> I updated all the dialogs that were modified by the patch so those work all right. 17:16:56 <Touqen> And I didn't test all the settings that the patch has. 17:17:14 <Eddi|zuHause> the saveload code didn't change in a long time 17:17:22 <Roest> yea that's not the prob 17:17:47 <Roest> station_gui.cpp ihas been changed so much and i'm not in the mood to crawl through all of this 17:17:56 <Eddi|zuHause> and the gui code should not affect functionality 17:18:21 <Roest> did you take a look at the svn log recently? 17:18:25 <Touqen> The place where it dies is in SaveLoad_STNX 17:18:41 <Touqen> It's a weird usage of an STL list. 17:18:49 <Eddi|zuHause> Roest: i mean that in response to Touqens problems 17:19:37 <Touqen> Yea, the dialogs are fine. 17:20:16 <Touqen> I'd dig deeper into it but it seems that the consensus is that the patch just get rewritten. 17:20:42 <Roest> lol yea right 17:21:01 <Roest> unless you're the person that ewrites it, i doubt that pretty much 17:21:07 <Roest> +r 17:21:08 <Touqen> Why's that? 17:21:26 <Roest> or let me rephrase it 17:21:34 <Touqen> Oh. 17:21:41 <Touqen> I see what you meant now. 17:22:09 <Roest> it's a pretty big project to do it right 17:22:48 <Roest> anyway, so do you have a working (beside the flaws) version for the current trunk? 17:23:23 <Touqen> It's about a week behind trunk, but for the most part yes. It wouldn't take much to get it up to todays rev. 17:23:48 <Touqen> I'd just need to figure out this weird save/load issue. 17:28:15 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 17:33:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13120 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the VehicleDetailsWindow. 17:45:55 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13121 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the PerformanceRatingDetailWindow. 17:46:22 <Belugas> commit machine... 17:46:35 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:47:22 <Roest> guess there goes the bettergraphs patch as well 17:48:39 <Touqen> heh 17:48:47 <Rubidium> better? 17:48:52 <Touqen> rubidium's a monstah 17:49:00 <Roest> bettah 17:49:03 <Rubidium> oh, the newgrf-incompatible-graphs-patch 17:49:15 <Roest> who says newgrf incompatible? 17:49:20 * Rubidium 17:49:25 <Roest> that i fixed like 3 weeks ago 17:49:34 <Rubidium> so the colours are changed? 17:49:34 <Roest> or 5 17:49:59 <Roest> which colours 17:50:11 <Rubidium> the background colour 17:50:18 <Roest> nope 17:50:21 <Rubidium> or the colour of the graph lines 17:50:30 <Rubidium> especially the cargo colour's graph lines 17:50:31 <Roest> that's as black as black gets 17:51:04 <Roest> when did you look at it the last time, so we talking about the same issues 17:51:23 <Rubidium> ages ago 17:51:26 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973AFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:51:39 <Roujin> greetings 17:51:52 <Rubidium> but WHEN I understand you correctly it still hasn't been addressed 17:52:25 <Roest> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=89866 this is what it looks like with newgrf industries now 17:53:10 <Rubidium> now let me add a cargo that has black as colour (works fine in TTDP) 17:53:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13122 /trunk/src/stdafx.h: -Fix: WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN define is needed for all WIN32 compilers 17:53:35 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:07 <Roujin> glx: is that the fix for the problem I (and you) encountered? 17:54:14 <glx> yes 17:54:23 <Roujin> wow, that's awesome timing ^^ 17:54:32 <glx> just in time indeed 17:54:41 <Roest> black works, it's replaced by some gray i think, one sec, looking it up in the code 17:54:47 <Roujin> congrats on fixing it ;) 17:55:47 <yorick> are win98 builds also made for released? 17:55:51 <yorick> s* 17:55:56 <glx> yes I make them 17:56:04 <Roest> black is replaced by color 40, whatever that is 17:56:09 <Rubidium> nah... no win98 builds ;) 17:56:15 <Rubidium> only win9x builds 17:56:25 <glx> yeah win9x :) 17:56:41 <glx> ie non unicode 17:57:53 <Roest> roujin can you update your dragndraw terraforming, the way you place procs has been broken 17:58:51 <Roujin> can do that, thanks for the info 17:58:57 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 18:01:33 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [] 18:02:28 <yorick> [20:02] #openttd.notice: <+_42_> Compile Farm: nightly:win32 (13122) failed. More details: http://nightly.openttd.org/devs/logs/win32.nightly.compile.log 18:02:45 <Roujin> meeeeeeeep 18:02:48 <yorick> that's generally bad 18:02:50 <Roujin> no nightly today :P 18:03:06 <Rubidium> lovely ;) 18:03:18 <Rubidium> windows sucks anyways ;) 18:03:39 <glx> stupid directx 18:03:57 <yorick> win32 doesn't need directx, does it? 18:04:03 <yorick> GDI does the trick? 18:04:16 <glx> only directmusic is used 18:04:19 <glx> and not mandatory 18:04:26 <yorick> yes, but it fails 18:04:52 <Eddi|zuHause> "oh, the world is coming to an end!!" 18:05:33 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 18:05:33 <Roujin> !logs 18:05:45 <Roujin> (no i still don't have a bookmark for that) 18:06:09 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.104.253] has joined #openttd 18:06:11 <Belugas> I was about to say so... 18:06:51 <Eddi|zuHause> hey. i have an idea, let's extend the trigger to "!logs" as well :p 18:07:47 <nicfer> I don't understand why in my country the goverment is trying to bring a train technology that didn't work in europe and they still want it 18:07:51 <Prof_Frink> Hell, extend it to "*" 18:07:55 <peter1138> what's a goverment? 18:08:31 <glx> a government with a missing n ? 18:08:31 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! NewSpellingNazi! 18:08:36 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of country is that that has a goverment? 18:08:54 <yorick> Eddi|zuHause, are you ever not zuHause? 18:09:01 <Eddi|zuHause> often 18:09:01 <nicfer> I'll say it faster, say NO to the argentinian 'Bullet train' 18:09:13 <yorick> do you ever login when not zuHause 18:09:38 <yorick> @seen Eddi|* 18:09:38 <DorpsGek> yorick: I have not seen Eddi|*. 18:09:41 <yorick> @seen Eddi 18:09:41 <DorpsGek> yorick: I have not seen Eddi. 18:09:53 <Eddi|zuHause> fail. 18:09:59 <yorick> @seen Eddi|ZuHause 18:09:59 <DorpsGek> yorick: Eddi|ZuHause was last seen in #openttd 6 seconds ago: <Eddi|zuHause> fail. 18:10:11 <yorick> @say fail 18:10:11 <DorpsGek> yorick: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:10:42 <yorick> and then, you'll need the "#openttd, say" capability, it forgets saying that 18:11:36 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: See you guys on sunday :w] 18:11:40 <Belugas> @say kick? 18:11:40 <DorpsGek> Belugas: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:12:02 <yorick> @Belugas say @whoami 18:12:05 <Belugas> hehe true... but i can use other commands to do the same :) 18:12:16 <Sacro> @say @calc 1~1 18:12:16 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:12:19 <Sacro> ;ff 18:12:20 <Sacro> pffff 18:12:30 <yorick> @calc 1~1 18:12:30 <DorpsGek> yorick: Error: invalid syntax (line 1) 18:12:41 <yorick> it invalidated me! 18:12:43 <Belugas> last time warning! 18:12:50 <Sacro> time at the bar? 18:13:01 <Belugas> that's a last call ;) 18:13:04 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: Pride please 18:13:10 <Belugas> no 18:13:12 <Belugas> bribe 18:13:13 <Belugas> ! 18:14:12 <Eddi|zuHause> you take H0 gauge? :p 18:14:45 * Belugas fails to decrypting H0 18:14:59 <Rubidium> :O 18:15:07 <Rubidium> big mini-rail, right? 18:15:13 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 18:15:24 <Eddi|zuHause> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HO_scale 18:15:39 *** Zutty [5694f03f@67.207.141.120] has joined #openttd 18:15:56 <yorick> standard gauge mini-rail 18:16:07 *** Zutty [5694f03f@67.207.141.120] has quit [] 18:17:37 *** Onack [~eer@ti500720a080-6367.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 18:18:45 <Belugas> you learn everyday in here... 18:20:02 <yorick> some other manufacturers use other standards 18:21:20 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.200.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:53 <Prof_Frink> Oh dear. 18:26:06 <yorick> what? 18:26:27 <Prof_Frink> Model railway discussion got me to the Hornby wiki page, and from there Meccano. 18:26:45 <Prof_Frink> I've now gone to ebay. 18:26:50 <Prof_Frink> This could get expensive. 18:27:18 * hylje has been designing lego trains with tilting bodies 18:36:57 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 18:39:35 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:42:16 <yorick> http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/bunker.jpg <-- yesyes, fail. 18:42:25 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: And bye] 18:47:06 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c5c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:47:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:47:15 <Roest> http://www.engelszuflucht.com/zensiert/bilder/3097/image077.jpg 18:47:33 <Bjarni> photoshop 18:47:48 <Bjarni> I have seen the very same picture where the text was in English 18:48:45 <Roest> still the funniest out of like 100 pics i just looked at 18:48:59 <Bjarni> heh 18:49:07 <Bjarni> then you look at boring pictures :P 18:51:08 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B34E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:51:22 <Eddi|zuHause> indeed 18:52:19 <Eddi|zuHause> http://usaerklaert.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/die-sache-mit-dem-huhnchen-geschmack/ <- "tastes like chicken" :p 18:55:01 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:00 <Roujin> devs: something wrong with this one? http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2002 19:10:20 <Roujin> i can't know if something's wrong with my patch if no one comments... 19:19:52 <Belugas> personally, i have looked at it. frankly 19:19:53 <Belugas> sorry 19:19:58 <Belugas> honestly 19:20:40 <Rubidium> time, priorities and such? 19:21:27 <Belugas> among others yes :) 19:25:50 <Roest> while we're at it, is #1969 dead, probably is since grf gui got changed into a class now 19:32:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-100-165.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:36:55 * Roest kills a cricket 19:37:31 <Prof_Frink> Roest: Oi! Not in the middle of the First Test 19:38:18 <Belugas> Roest, i think we've discussed #1969. I have a vague impression of "not in favor", but i'm not entirely sure 19:39:23 <Roest> well i'm just saying, i got some initial feedback, i think i fixed all the issues you had with it and then there was silence 19:39:26 <Belugas> Roujin, why is 2002 usefull? 19:40:34 <Belugas> funny, Roest. When we give comments on patches, users think we want it in trunk. when we do not give comments, they are frustrated because we are silent 19:40:41 <Belugas> what the hell are we supposed to do???? 19:40:51 <Belugas> commit everything??? 19:40:53 <Noldo> :D 19:40:58 <Roest> nope 19:41:03 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: YOu're developers. You're supposed to /ignore/ users. 19:41:08 <Yexo> give comments, then at least we know why something is good/not good 19:41:54 <Roest> but having a general idea if something has a chance/no chance would be good 19:42:26 * Belugas does not feel the courage to comment each and every patch been presented and face the reactions to said comments 19:42:29 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973AFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:49 <Roest> so you could, say patch ok, don't want it in trunk, close task 19:43:09 <Rubidium> and then get it resubmitted three weeks later 19:43:12 <Belugas> do you remember a kid named jez ? 19:43:28 <Rubidium> waaaaaaaah 19:43:38 <Yexo> was that the one disagreeing with the way patches got into trunk? 19:43:50 <Yexo> saying he would create a comjmunity dev team or something? 19:44:23 <Belugas> think he did that, yeah 19:44:49 <Belugas> basically, jez was ALWAYS complaining about each and ever comments been addressed 19:45:00 <Belugas> fucking boring situation 19:45:12 <Belugas> as if i don't have enough stress at the job :P 19:46:42 <Belugas> hheh.. at one point, he was PMing each of us 19:47:22 <Belugas> and could not believed that we didn't have each other's phone numbers or that we did not even got face to face with each others 19:47:34 <glx> KUDr lots a lot of time with him 19:47:39 <glx> *lost 19:49:20 <hylje> with openttd hg/git support shadow dev teams are somewhat feasible 19:49:47 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-76-109-75-56.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:49:58 <Roest> what blackops devs? 19:51:22 <Eddi|zuHause> what should that accomplish? 19:51:34 <hylje> rogue repositories that mostly mirror the mainline but contain extra patches mainline doesn't like 19:51:53 <Rubidium> *IN? 19:51:54 <hylje> just another attempt at the integrateds, it sounds like 19:52:19 <Rubidium> though the quality of the *INs has dropped drastically 19:52:26 <Rubidium> especially since bottd 19:52:38 <hylje> it's too easy? 19:53:03 <Rubidium> well, how many *INs are there at the moment? 19:53:14 <Rubidium> some 5-ish or so? 19:53:21 <Rubidium> how long do they live? 19:53:32 <hylje> i have no idea 19:53:34 <Rubidium> a few months, certainly not more than 6 months 19:53:55 <hylje> isnt the problem with INs mostly the throw-away patches: the patch gets merged but not maintained 19:54:04 <Noldo> the INs are a bit mixed with they goal 19:54:05 <Eddi|zuHause> compare with MiniIN which had fairly stable development over almost a year 19:54:26 <Rubidium> how often can't you load your trunk/previous version of IN? almost every time 19:54:43 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 19:55:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, lack of savegame compatibility is what has kept me away from them... 19:55:49 <Rubidium> how hard is maintaining savegame compatability? Not that hard if you know something about programming 19:57:18 <Yexo> glx, can you have a look at the comments I posted at FS#2010? can that be the cause or is it nonsense? 19:57:40 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but there is not enough continuity in the "modern" INs 19:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause> because of the short lifetime 19:58:12 <Eddi|zuHause> and savegame compatibility between different INs is virtually impossible 19:58:26 <Nite_Owl> <---- Played around with IN's; played around with BOTTD; will stick with trunk. Much simpler although PBS is still desirable. 19:58:29 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:49 <Eddi|zuHause> PBS ought to get into trunk step by step 19:59:11 <Roest> how so 19:59:15 <Nite_Owl> <---- Fingers crossed. 20:00:48 <Nite_Owl> My maps can not handle 50 tile junctions at either end of the station just to avoid jams 20:02:32 <Nite_Owl> Exaggeration but you get the point 20:03:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well, my station entrances did not get significantly smaller with PBS 20:03:45 <Eddi|zuHause> only slightly more "elegant" 20:04:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13123 /trunk/src/ (economy.cpp news_type.h players.cpp): -Codechange: passing the bankrupt type via data_b is not needed anymore. Patch by Cirdan. 20:05:23 <Nite_Owl> Did the windows compilations fail today? 20:05:33 <Belugas> ohh.... a user's patch going on trunk... 20:05:57 <Eddi|zuHause> compare www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport" target="_blank">www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2012.%20Mai%201939.png and www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport" target="_blank">www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%202.%20Mai%201985.png 20:06:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Nite_Owl: yes, as you can see in the compilation logfile 20:06:42 <Eddi|zuHause> Nite_Owl: http://nightly.openttd.org/devs/logs/win32.nightly.compile.log 20:07:44 <peter1138> Belugas: rubbish, that never happens! 20:08:32 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13124 /trunk/src/order_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the OrdersWindow. 20:08:52 <Noldo> Belugas: and after the thind one by someone he's not a user anymore! 20:09:01 <Nite_Owl> See what you mean by elegant. Still smaller then what I normally come up with. 20:09:20 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973AFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i also have www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2023.%20Jan%201952.png 20:11:47 <Nite_Owl> Thanks for the compile log URL - did not have that one marked. 20:12:54 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.190.38] has joined #openttd 20:14:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B840B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:25 <Nite_Owl> That is a bit closer to what my stations look like. I use a variation on Osai's terminal stations even for two way Ro-Ro stations 20:16:34 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B833C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:16:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause> you might also want to compare www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport" target="_blank">www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%206.%20Aug%201925.png and www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport" target="_blank">www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2020.%20Okt%201947.png (although that has nothing to do with PBS :P) 20:23:54 *** Mwa [~lexi@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:49 <peter1138> ah, evolution 20:25:16 <peter1138> ish 20:25:25 <peter1138> do a time lapse video :D 20:26:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought i rebuilt that one with PBS, but i apparently don't have a screenshot of that 20:26:40 <Nite_Owl> Made a semi random map for my current game so I could play around with the rivers feature 20:27:02 <Nite_Owl> Fun tunneling under the rivers 20:27:32 <Eddi|zuHause> that game is way older than the river feature 20:28:42 <Eddi|zuHause> oldest screenshot i have is from sep 2007 20:29:39 <glx> Yexo: indeed that can be the cause as it happens only for -O2 20:31:05 <Yexo> easiest way to fix is problebly changing all static allocated drivers to pointers and create them in a initialization function 20:31:31 <Nite_Owl> The only drawback to rivers is that they can only be changed properly (say moved over a few tiles) from within the scenario editor. 20:31:42 <glx> but having them autocreate and autoregister is nice 20:31:49 <glx> it's done the same way in noai 20:32:03 <peter1138> why was it changed? 20:32:10 <peter1138> hasn't it been working for months? 20:32:26 <Yexo> then make s_drivesr a pointer that is initialized the first time it's used 20:32:58 <Yexo> it's broken since r13022 20:33:31 <glx> since we tried to remove memory leaks ;) 20:33:31 <Nite_Owl> So it becomes a save - changed extension - fix - save - change extension back again - play game kind of a thing 20:33:59 *** Hassan [~Hassan@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:34:32 <Hassan> Heya, Is it normal that a multiplayer game "crashes" after deleting town roads in 0.6.1-RC1 20:34:34 <Nite_Owl> Sort of reminds of the way that Sac use to do her thing 20:35:07 <Hassan> Its quite annoying 20:35:26 <peter1138> perfectly normal 20:35:32 <peter1138> we'd thought you'd enjoy it 20:36:03 <Hassan> it has been fixed already peter1138? 20:36:15 <Hassan> (in nightly's) 20:36:27 <peter1138> if by 'crashing' you mean desyncing, yes 20:36:40 <peter1138> if by 'crashing' you mean an actual crash, then no 20:36:48 <Hassan> yeah I mean desyncing :P 20:36:58 <Hassan> But desyncing for every player :P 20:37:02 <glx> and it's indeed known 20:37:06 <Hassan> So Its just as if the server crashes 20:37:13 <Hassan> Ok good 20:37:43 <Hassan> Will the second RC come out soon? Or is it recommended to switch back to 0.6.1 stable? 20:38:06 <Belugas> GO NIGHTLY! 20:38:08 <Yexo> 0.6.1 stable isn't released 20:38:09 <peter1138> there's a 0.6.1 stable? 20:38:13 <Belugas> go go go 20:38:21 <peter1138> glx: so are we double-freeing or somethign? 20:38:23 <Nite_Owl> 0.6.0 stable? 20:38:34 <Yexo> peter1138: no, freeing in the wrong order 20:38:40 <peter1138> order...? 20:39:01 <glx> static data is freed in a compiler determined order 20:39:18 <Yexo> the destructor of DriverFactoryBase is calling a function on a sometimes already destructed object 20:39:18 <Hassan> Let me refrase that question; will the second RC come out soon, or is it recommended to switch back to 0.6.0 stable? 20:39:29 <Hassan> And Belugas I wanna play multiplayer 20:39:34 <Hassan> So no nightlys for me 20:40:29 <Belugas> so boooo!! 20:40:34 <Nite_Owl> Stick with stables for multiplayer 20:40:48 <hylje> stables have ponies, so 20:40:55 * Roest blergs 20:40:59 <Prof_Frink> omg!!! ponies!! 20:41:07 * Hassan downloads the stable version again :) 20:41:13 <Hassan> Thx for the help :) 20:41:16 <Nite_Owl> Little ponies? 20:41:25 *** Hassan [~Hassan@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 20:41:26 <hylje> tiny ponies 20:41:43 <Nite_Owl> The kind you can step on? 20:42:06 <hylje> you can, but you can't 20:43:20 <Nite_Owl> My little squished pony 20:43:35 <Roest> can anyone try to compile my patchpack on windows? it compiles just fine on linux, but failes with buildottd on xp 20:43:44 <Nite_Owl> My little pony stain on the bottom of your shoe? 20:44:54 <Yexo> glx: isn't just removing line 74 of driver.h the easiest solution? the map will clean itself up when it's destructor is called, and we don't care if that's before or after the drivers' destructors are called 20:45:18 <glx> but some OS don't do the cleanup 20:45:48 <Yexo> the do a GetDrivers().clear() in ShutdownDrivers() 20:46:07 <Eddi|zuHause> oh yeah, C and its undefinedness :p 20:46:29 <peter1138> it's defined to be undefined 20:46:45 <Rubidium> so it's defined 20:47:12 <Yexo> the only place ShutdownDrivers is called is in ShutdownGame, and at that point the whole map is useless anyway 20:47:19 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't change the fact that it's the cause of lots of headaches :p 20:47:26 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.104.253] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008032620]] 20:49:03 <Yexo> glx: even if the os doesn't do the cleanup, the destructor of the map should've already done it 20:50:38 <peter1138> just revert the commit ;) 20:50:52 <peter1138> it worked perfectly well before 20:51:20 <glx> I'm working on a clean fix 20:51:36 *** tneo [~tneo@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:57:19 * Belugas is not working anymore and runs home! 21:05:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: bjarni * r13125 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix [FS#2000](r12913): [autoreplace] failing replacement and restoring a vehicle will no longer decrease the vehicle count in groups 21:06:11 <glx> Yexo: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/fs2009_2010-2.diff <-- something like that 21:07:47 <Yexo> glx: s_drivers is never deleted and causes a memory leak 21:08:10 <Yexo> but it works fine in that it doesn't crash anymore on exiting openttd 21:08:13 <glx> it is deleted 21:08:23 <glx> when the latest driver is removed 21:08:25 <Yexo> sorry, I overlooked that 21:10:27 <Yexo> I'd be somewhat cleaner if the code wouldn't depend on the string returned by GetDriverTypeName being of length 5 21:10:41 <Yexo> but that's another issue 21:11:10 <glx> well I could use std::string instead char[] ;) 21:12:11 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:12:38 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 21:13:49 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E57D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:16 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:21:32 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-76-109-75-56.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 21:28:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host112-175-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:28:54 <Wolf01> hello 21:29:29 <peter1138> hi 21:32:22 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13126 /trunk/src/driver.h: -Fix (r13022) [FS#2009, FS#2010]: driver list should be dynamically allocated as static uninitialistion order is undetermined. The list is freed when the latest driver is removed. 21:34:08 <tneo> hello 21:34:15 <Touqen> howdy 21:34:25 <Touqen> It's like a party in my mouth 21:35:04 <tneo> ? 21:38:00 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 21:58:09 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:01:07 *** Mwa [~lexi@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:21:14 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973AFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 22:29:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13127 /trunk/src/music/dmusic.cpp: -Fix (r13122): of course WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN excludes too much stuff 22:36:37 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 22:36:45 <dragonhorseboy> anyone a narrow gauge train person? heh ^-^ 22:37:19 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5563A.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:38:36 * peter1138 is a human person 22:38:49 <dragonhorseboy> peter heh I meant someone interested in NG trains :p 22:40:01 <dragonhorseboy> so are you one or not? ;) 22:42:24 <peter1138> not really 22:42:47 <dragonhorseboy> thanks anyhow :) 22:43:02 <dragonhorseboy> one related question if you don't mind tho... 22:44:23 <dragonhorseboy> think that for a SG/NG coupler adapter car (like in case NG car isn't right in center of SG tracks) the SG couplerbox would had been offset a bit to side? 22:44:35 <dragonhorseboy> if no idea - thats no problem 22:44:50 <peter1138> what? 22:45:07 <peter1138> why would you have an SG/NG coupler when the track's incompatible? 22:45:18 <peter1138> i suppose you could "third-rail" heh 22:45:25 <peter1138> but that would be pretty specific stuff 22:45:51 <dragonhorseboy> I was thinking that this was dual-gauge .. sorry I didn't mention that :p 22:46:05 <Wolf01> 'noght 22:46:09 <Wolf01> *i 22:46:13 <dragonhorseboy> bye wolf01 22:46:20 * peter1138 ponders dual-gauge track in ottd 22:46:27 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host112-175-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:46:57 <Rubidium> newroutes? 22:47:49 <dragonhorseboy> truth is I was thinking of trying start a small layout again and well I was just wondering about laying N tracks together with placing down a third rail in some place and modify some Z scale trucks to fit N wagons 22:47:53 <dragonhorseboy> not sure at this point yet ;) 22:48:20 * dragonhorseboy already has some nice small-sized N scale rolling stocks (mostly 2-axles, and sorry only about half are actually uk type) 22:48:35 <Belugas> no...not newroutes... moreuniversalroad&rails 22:50:42 <dragonhorseboy> 0-4-0T with up to 5 coaches for it .. 3 coal cars (one with brakecab on it) .. three uk hopper cars .. hmm two generic marklin sidedump cars .. hmm and I think maybe still one cattle van if its coupler isn't broken 22:51:08 <dragonhorseboy> can't remember if I had another engine or the powered-coach-pushing 0-4-0T was the only thing I had working now 22:51:17 <dragonhorseboy> used to have a dockside 0-6-0T but its gears stripped tho :/ 22:51:55 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B34E.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C5B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:34 <Eddi|zuHause> N gauge... that's not really anything for my clumsy paws 22:58:46 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-140-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:58:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea what Z is though 23:03:18 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c5c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:04:29 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-175-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:56 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 23:07:29 <Touqen> Eddi|zuHause: Incredibly tiny 23:07:54 <Touqen> It's like 1:220 scale 23:08:07 <dragonhorseboy> N scale isn't difficult unless you're of quite young age :p 23:08:23 <dragonhorseboy> which in that case you'll just want lionel or lgb/G instead 23:08:43 <Touqen> HO for the win :D 23:09:36 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:05 <einKarl> and in case you have a few kids, it might be you have N to lgb/G together with some Computer to play OTTD in your homelan :-) 23:12:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:13:11 <dragonhorseboy> touqen the issue here is most of the HO is a bit of marklin, several large usa, and quite some old (usually just slight worn out) freight cars 23:13:17 <dragonhorseboy> nothing much good for a smaller layout 23:13:20 <dragonhorseboy> ^-^ 23:14:27 <dragonhorseboy> well one marklin engine is a 3-axle diesel shunter but there isn't even much cars to match with it 23:15:37 <dragonhorseboy> heh 23:18:29 <Eddi|zuHause> 3 axle shunters? something like this? 23:18:33 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Baureihe_V_60 23:20:14 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR_Baureihe_V_60 <- not to confuse with those, because they have 4 axles 23:21:00 <dragonhorseboy> yeah same body look down to the exhaust port being right next to the split windows ;) 23:23:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13128 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Make a class of the refit window 23:23:55 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.190.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25:16 <dragonhorseboy> eddi but either way hmm let me see if I can find one particular photo for you :p ... 23:28:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B833C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:27 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway... shunters go well with any amount of freight cars 23:29:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13129 /trunk/src/ (window_gui.h window_type.h): -Codechange: remove the WP macro and it's related variables. 23:29:52 <dragonhorseboy> http://www.buynscale.com/blwphotos/KA-Pocket.JPG here thats the 0-4-0T + coaches I have for N 23:29:54 <dragonhorseboy> :p 23:30:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8295E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:30:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:30:23 <dragonhorseboy> its rather small that kato somehow wisely decide to have the red coaches be motorized instead (same thing with the red coach in the 3-coaches car addon set too) 23:30:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13130 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: remove some of the (old) WindowEvent wrapper functions/enums/variables as they are not used anymore. 23:31:22 <nzvip> Aw man. 23:31:28 <nzvip> What happened to the British English Only rule? 23:32:45 <Eddi|zuHause> the rule never said that 23:32:48 * Touqen hands nzvip some extra 'u's 23:32:55 <Touqen> nzvip: Use judiciously. 23:33:40 <nzvip> I just noticed it said "Unauthorised" in the topic. 23:33:58 <Eddi|zuHause> so? 23:34:13 <Touqen> uk english would make it unauthorized 23:34:26 <Rubidium> what's UK English? 23:34:29 <nzvip> And what English would make it "Unauthorised", Touqen? 23:34:32 <Touqen> The kings english. 23:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> we've had this -ise vs. -ize discussion many time 23:34:44 <nzvip> There are two kinds of UK English. 23:34:51 <Touqen> sigh 23:34:58 <nzvip> There are the Oxford UK ENglish and the Non-Oxford UK English. 23:35:11 <nzvip> Oxford uses -ize, while Non-Oxford uses -ise. 23:35:25 <nzvip> Of course, the Non-Oxford version is more popular in the UK than the Oxford version. 23:35:44 <Touqen> naturally 23:35:47 <Eddi|zuHause> english is one of the very few languages in the world that is not regulated 23:35:53 * Touqen likes oxford commas 23:35:54 <Rubidium> "-ise ones are now usual in Britain and the Commonwealth in all but formal writing" 23:35:55 <dragonhorseboy> well either way I'm just wondering about one question... 23:36:28 <Rubidium> i.e. formal British uses -ize 23:36:31 <dragonhorseboy> did lowly mixed trains sometimes leave the coaches sitting on line (no depots or anything) to spot the freight wagons they had? 23:37:04 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway... i had a problem spelling the game name "civilization" from the beginning of time 23:37:08 *** Great_Briton_ [~Great@dyn-62-56-110-125.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i always wrote it with s 23:38:45 <Touqen> civilisation doesn't even sound right 23:39:00 <nzvip> Really, Rubidium? 23:39:10 <nzvip> How come you see "authorise" in the airport? 23:39:31 <Rubidium> private company 23:39:48 <nzvip> Private companies doesn't use formal British English? 23:40:03 <Rubidium> not often 23:41:05 <dragonhorseboy> hm noone? 23:41:08 <Rubidium> http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ise1.htm 23:41:47 <Rubidium> ofcourse -ise is for lazy people who do not want to remember what words cannot be written with -ize 23:44:26 <nzvip> o_o Or people who prefer it over -ize. 23:44:34 <nzvip> And respect French obviously influence on English. 23:50:46 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 23:51:37 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-177-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:46 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1B75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"]