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00:05:46 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:28 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:02 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:13:14 *** Tekky [~chatzilla@p5493C858.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 00:16:11 <Pikita> wooo 2 people signed up for my idea now : 00:16:12 <Pikita> :) 00:17:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C836.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:04 <Metalcore> I'm one >_> 00:25:08 * Metalcore == lilman424 00:29:51 <Pikita> lies!! 00:29:52 <Pikita> >_> 00:29:56 <Pikita> :P 00:30:18 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577AD38E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 00:32:50 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B760DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76738.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:37 <Pikita> Metalcore find more people :P 00:42:46 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet567.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:14:41 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485F762.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:16:02 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:18:29 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C008.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:38:07 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-167.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 02:18:04 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has quit [Quit: Quit] 03:01:56 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180067055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:03:48 <ccfreak2k> http://ccfreak2k.loliserv.org/images/yappbug.png Bug? 03:04:21 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:04:24 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 03:06:10 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577AD38E.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 03:14:54 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d876d5d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 03:14:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 03:27:18 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d876d5d.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:00 *** Pikita2 [~sam@89.243.248.88] has joined #openttd 03:42:21 *** Pikita [~sam@89.243.248.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:09:26 *** Pikita2 [~sam@89.243.248.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:35:24 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0E0AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 04:44:05 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm86.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 05:14:06 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 05:21:29 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 05:22:26 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 05:22:41 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 05:23:13 *** welshdra-gone is now known as welshdragon 05:24:21 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 05:24:35 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 05:38:47 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm86.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:52:09 <planetmaker> ccfreak2k: it's not a bug but a signaling error. 05:52:38 <planetmaker> the signal West of the station (where the reservation goes through) needs to be reversed. 05:52:46 <planetmaker> e.g. facing the station 05:53:16 <planetmaker> trains always reserve up to the next save waiting location 05:54:12 <planetmaker> you might argue though, that stations should implicitly contain these signals... 05:54:48 <planetmaker> Not quite sure, but I think in recent version they do... 06:02:29 *** Jezral [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has joined #openttd 06:06:18 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 06:09:29 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:09:45 *** blinky [~admin@mail.vjg.lt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:11:47 <ccfreak2k> If a train intends to turn around at some station, I would think it would only reserve the station tiles. 06:12:40 <ccfreak2k> As for the station design, well, I sort of hacked the track to the west as a passthrough. :) 06:19:37 <planetmaker> well... I tend to agree... but I seem to remember a commit which dealt with exactly that issue - what version are you using? 06:22:21 <ccfreak2k> 14414 06:44:34 <ccfreak2k> -Codechange: adding two digits for no obvious reason (nor comment), plus code style Infringement. 06:44:35 <ccfreak2k> What. 06:59:05 <planetmaker> look at the changeset. Sounds much worse than it is :) 06:59:54 <planetmaker> anyway, your version looks recent enough. 07:03:07 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20:48 *** fonso [~fonso@brln-d9bacf09.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 07:27:16 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-90.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:31:17 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 07:44:27 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:51:18 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 07:51:40 *** Volley [~worf@84-119-74-178.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 08:01:43 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5C502.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:04:14 *** keyweed [~keyweed@home.keyweed.com] has joined #openttd 08:04:51 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-20.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 08:21:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-83-170.leed.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 08:21:49 *** letto [~letto@86.120.69.63] has joined #openttd 08:22:00 <Brianetta> Do r14221's changes also apply to console commands? 08:23:10 <Rubidium> yes, though the old commands should still work too (they've become an alias) 08:47:44 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has joined #openttd 08:47:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 08:50:50 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 08:51:43 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-20.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:31 * Celestar goes playing Q3A while he waits for the cluster to start his job :S 09:08:20 <Forked> ehe 09:08:28 <Forked> only thing I get to play at work is tribalwars :\ 09:09:22 * keyweed is playing request tracker while watching logs. 09:09:50 * Rubidium wonders whether Celestar shouldn't be playing with the code of cargodest 09:10:31 <Celestar> Rubidium: I'll do that after I've finished this Tier :P 09:11:51 <Celestar> Rubidium: I first need something to pipe down 09:19:15 *** Zorni [zorn@e177114130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:19:15 *** Zorn [zorn@e177231173.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:19:56 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 09:27:04 *** letto [~letto@86.120.69.63] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:56 *** Pikita [~sam@89.241.231.158] has joined #openttd 09:35:35 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-19.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:41:16 <Celestar> BEH 09:41:33 <Celestar> why can't I initialize a vector field to 0 in OpenFOAM :S 09:43:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C808.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:43:21 <ccfreak2k> SUDDENLY 09:43:22 <Celestar> well I can: new VectorField(U - U); 09:43:31 <ccfreak2k> I reached year 2051. 09:45:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i never did that... 09:47:46 <Celestar> I'm still stuck in 2008 09:47:57 <Celestar> and my flux capacitor is out of fuel 09:50:32 <planetmaker> You shouldn't have thrown away the dilithium fule cells, Celstar ;) 09:50:37 <planetmaker> good morning btw :) 09:52:24 <Celestar> hi :D 09:58:00 <Celestar> FOAM FATAL ERROR : LHS and RHS of + have different dimensions dimensions : [0 0 -1 0 0 0 0] + [0 2 -2 0 0 0 0] 09:58:04 <Celestar> GNAHH 09:58:31 <peter1138> Oh really :o 10:02:39 <Celestar> it's not bad when the solver checks your equation for dimension-sanity :) 10:03:18 * peter1138 ponders implementing RTP MIDI. 10:03:44 <peter1138> (Or I can just use a proprietory protocol.) 10:04:01 <peter1138> RTP MIDI looks a bit complicated for my needs. 10:06:07 * Celestar begins to understand why he can't set a field to zero. No dimension 10:10:22 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you need a 1-dimensional 0 ;) 10:11:26 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: dimension as in units (= 10:16:33 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:16:58 <Celestar> like 0 [0 1 2 0 0 0 0] 10:17:57 *** ben_ [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:18:05 *** ben_ is now known as Sacro 10:18:47 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 10:22:07 <planetmaker> hm... I got a problem telling my computer where to find the boost library 10:22:36 <planetmaker> I extracted the tar.bz2 into /usr/local/boost and set boost_root to that dir... but linking fails 10:22:45 <planetmaker> any hint to the obvious for me? 10:23:05 <ln> install boost from your distribution's package. 10:23:18 <planetmaker> not possible. No dmg available afaik 10:23:43 <ln> your distro is Mac OS X? 10:24:10 <planetmaker> yes 10:24:15 <planetmaker> 10.4 10:24:20 <Celestar> planetmaker: does /usr/local/boost have some subdirectory like boost-version? 10:24:40 <ln> m'kay. well, hmm. 10:24:54 <Sacro> m'kay 10:24:59 <Sacro> it's easy mmmmmm'kay 10:25:07 <planetmaker> Celestar: not directly... but another dir with all the hpp files... 10:25:15 <planetmaker> so that's the root dir? 10:25:35 <Celestar> adjacency_list.hpp should be in somedir/boot/graph/ 10:25:44 <Celestar> s/boot/boost 10:26:20 * Celestar thinks openttd should implement SPADs and trap points ;) 10:26:24 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-19.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:46 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:27:16 <Rubidium> Celestar: you should write a newgrf for that ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SPAD_XIII_040510-F-1234P-019.jpg 10:27:18 <planetmaker> yep, that file is in /usr/local/boost/boost/graph 10:27:27 <Yexo> planetmaker: are you still working on river generation? 10:27:40 <Celestar> planetmaker: then eleminate one of the boosts :P 10:27:46 <planetmaker> Yexo: not recently due to time constraints. 10:28:01 <Celestar> Rubidium: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Schutzweiche.jpg <= this :P 10:29:01 <planetmaker> Yexo: but in principle yes, though I'm not sad, if someone else with bigger C++ skills would want to tackle it. As a pointer to the places where to look my patch should be fine. 10:29:11 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:29:30 <Celestar> :S 10:30:19 <Yexo> planetmaker: ah, ok. In any case, I'm not going to work on it, but nice to here it is not completely abandoned. 10:30:33 <Celestar> DB: Munich-Rosenheim (about 70-80km): RegionalExpress: 41 minutes, 8.15EUR, InterCity: 40 minutes, 11.60 EUR. That's great value for 3.45 EUR more. 10:31:00 <planetmaker> it's on my mind... but... yeah :) It's in a place, too, where becoming outdated is very unlikely. 10:31:47 <planetmaker> Celestar: do I need the headers only or the complete library? 10:31:57 <Celestar> planetmaker: headers only should be fine. 10:32:01 <Celestar> the BGL is only headers 10:32:10 <planetmaker> hm, k. Thx 10:32:39 <Celestar> planetmaker: I _hope_ that you need only headers 10:32:45 <Celestar> not sure. ask Bjarni :P 10:32:59 <planetmaker> :P I'll compile boost and try again :) 10:33:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14424 /branches/noai/ (35 files in 7 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r14398:14420. 10:33:23 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:39:32 <peter1138> When do we rewrite it to not need boost? :p 10:39:50 <Celestar> do you want to do it :P 10:40:19 <planetmaker> :D Whoever of you is fastest wins two cookies :P 10:40:46 <Celestar> by google.com? :P 10:40:47 <Rubidium> planetmaker: tss... I get offered lots of cookies all the time 10:40:58 <Rubidium> and I usually turn them down 10:41:01 <Celestar> stellwerke.de rocks (= 10:41:02 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-9.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 10:41:15 <planetmaker> Rubidium: okay, price increased to cakes - you haven't tasted my cakes yet :) 10:41:30 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 10:42:50 <Rubidium> they'll be dry when they reach me 10:43:15 <planetmaker> hm... You're in the Netherlands? Should be fine, if properly packaged. 10:43:42 <planetmaker> you could pick it up in Eindhoven on 11th October :) 10:45:15 <planetmaker> then it needn't be older than 24h :) 10:45:22 <Rubidium> got to work that day 10:45:30 <planetmaker> Saturday? :( 10:45:34 <Rubidium> yup 10:47:07 <planetmaker> gah... OpenTTD compiles without warnings and boost has zillions of it... 10:48:02 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80B11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:48:16 <Rubidium> boost is too bureaucratic to quickly/efficiently splut warnings 10:48:51 <planetmaker> looks like... 10:49:11 <planetmaker> I'm always amazed at how adamant you are in stomping out even compile warnings :) 10:49:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-83-170.leed.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 10:50:46 <FauxFaux> I believe most of the boost warnings come from the msvc security deprecation? 10:50:54 <Celestar> "Eigenzwieschutzweiche" ... gotta love german ... 10:50:56 <FauxFaux> Assuming you're on msvc, anyway. 10:51:08 <planetmaker> FauxFaux: doesn't look like. I'm using gcc :) 10:51:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80AE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:51:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:51:18 <planetmaker> and uint comparing to int etc pp 10:51:23 <FauxFaux> Why're you compiling, then? Use your distro's. =p 10:51:39 <planetmaker> FauxFaux: no dmg there :) 10:52:10 <planetmaker> My unix is a Mac :P 10:52:11 <FauxFaux> Noooooooooooooooo etc. =p 10:52:48 <Rubidium> planetmaker: non-critical warnings usually hide the critical warnings, so make sure also the critical warnings get fixed one just fixes all warnings 10:53:17 <planetmaker> Rubidium: fair enough :) 10:57:12 *** `Fuco`OFF [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:57:12 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02:59 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051102034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:04:53 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:05:03 *** `Fuco`OFF [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:28 *** `Fuco`OFF [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:09:32 *** `Fuco`OFF [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has quit [] 11:10:40 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14425 /branches/noai/ (9 files in 3 dirs): 11:21:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change [API CHANGE]: GetExclusiveRightsPlayer -> GetExclusiveRightsCompany. 11:21:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change: replace instances of player with company when company is really meant. 11:23:41 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:24:21 <Rexxie> who decides which patches are "useful enough for trunk"? 11:24:38 *** Rexxie is now known as Rexxars 11:24:42 <peter1138> We do. 11:26:53 <Rexxars> can you tell me if my patch is useless or might make trunk? :p 11:26:56 <Rexxars> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2326 11:28:33 <peter1138> _settings_client.gui.station_" target="_blank">client.gui.station_platlength = _settings_client.gui.station_" target="_blank">client.gui.station_platlength; 11:28:36 <peter1138> ... 11:28:43 <Rexxars> woops 11:28:50 <Eddi|zuHause> <Celestar> "Eigenzwieschutzweiche" ... gotta love german ... <- i had to read that word 3 times... 11:29:22 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-9.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:31:02 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: it's not a typo :P 11:33:25 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.fvfischer.de/EZW.png <= that is one 11:33:30 *** Zorni [zorn@e177114130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:59 *** MOG [~MapperOG@p57B2D8A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:38:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm86.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:41:47 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 11:42:30 <MOG> I heard this is a psychic support channel 11:42:34 *** MOG is now known as MapperOG 11:42:46 <Celestar> :P 11:43:05 <Rubidium> Celestar: great job in obfuscating the tracks ;) 11:43:07 <MapperOG> I'm wondering if there's a place that accepts lemonade or bonbons? 11:43:30 <Eddi|zuHause> you should not play too much toyland! :p 11:43:38 <Rubidium> MapperOG: I reckon any kindergarten will do 11:43:47 <MapperOG> it's not me, but my girlfriend :D 11:44:56 <keyweed> hmz. http://www.fvfischer.de/ gives nice errors. 11:45:08 <keyweed> Error (ERROR_PLATFORM_FAILURE) : 11:48:10 *** Konsti [~a@DSL01.83.171.163.18.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:15 *** Konsti is now known as Aylomen 11:49:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14426 /branches/0.6/src/ (10 files in 3 dirs): 11:49:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 11:49:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: NewGRF VarAction 2 variable 43 for industries saw MP_VOID tiles as land tiles and was inefficient (r14417, r14416, r14415) 11:49:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Possible buffer overrun/wrong parameter type passed to printf (r14414, r14397) 11:49:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Generation seed set using -G was always overwritten by -g (r14408) 11:49:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not allow extending signals by dragging in any direction other than the track direction [FS#2202] (r14013) 11:55:04 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm86.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:58:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14427 /branches/0.6/src/lang/ (16 files): [0.6] -Backport from trunk: language updates. 12:02:46 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-167.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:26 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-33.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 12:05:08 *** Zorn [zorn@e177228047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:06:00 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-33.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:36 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wired-75.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:30:46 <planetmaker> sorry for all my questions... how can I tell hg to create a diff which can be applied with patch -p0 instead of patch -p1 ? 12:30:53 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 12:31:10 <planetmaker> I've been reading through nearly the whole doc now... but to no avail :S 12:33:59 <peter1138> I don't think you can, and I don't see the need. 12:34:28 <planetmaker> peter1138: if people want to apply a patch with buildottd, they need one which applies with -p0 12:34:43 <planetmaker> otherwise: I concur 12:35:12 <peter1138> Either 1) fix buildottd or 2) apply the patch to an svn checkout and create another patch with svn. 12:35:24 <Ammler> planetmaker: sed "/---/ s|a/||;/+++/ s|b/||;" patch > patch 12:35:28 <ln> 3) fix the path manually 12:35:29 <planetmaker> :P Ok, I hoped there'd be an easier way :) 12:35:53 <Ammler> quite easy, imo. 12:36:08 <planetmaker> Thx peter1138, Ammler :) 12:36:26 <peter1138> Ammler, beware of > patch creating an empty file before sed has opened it... 12:37:00 <Ammler> yeah, those are 2 different files btw. 12:37:07 <planetmaker> :) 12:37:29 <peter1138> or "hg diff | sed ... > patch" 12:37:51 <Ammler> that's better :-) 12:38:04 <planetmaker> :) true 12:38:08 *** MapperOG [~MapperOG@p57B2D8A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:16 <Ammler> that "patch" is _not_ tutoise safe, btw. 12:40:31 <Ammler> (or however that tool is called) 12:40:43 <peter1138> Yes, well, tortoise sucks. 12:40:55 <Ammler> but should work with bottd 12:42:51 <Ammler> hmm, you could ask michi_cc, how he did the svn diff... 12:43:42 <planetmaker> michi_cc: you around? 12:44:39 <peter1138> Arrr, icecast on port 80 :D 12:44:43 <peter1138> Well, proxied. 12:44:53 <peter1138> Hmm, I wonder if the streams work properly... 12:45:43 * Tefad crosses the streams 12:47:02 <peter1138> arrrrrrrrrrgh 12:47:57 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:58:01 <Eddi|zuHause> how about: cd hg-checkout; hg diff > ../patch1; cd ../svn-checkout; patch -p1 -i ../patch1; svn diff > ../patch2 12:58:59 <Eddi|zuHause> does only work if your hg patch is relative to an svn revision 12:59:26 <dih> @seen Brianetta 12:59:26 <DorpsGek> dih: Brianetta was last seen in #openttd 4 hours, 37 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Brianetta> Do r14221's changes also apply to console commands? 13:01:49 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, that was my 2) 13:02:17 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:04:09 <dih> @openttd commit 14221 13:04:10 <DorpsGek> dih: Commit by smatz :: r14221 /trunk/src (viewport.cpp viewport_type.h) (2008-09-02 14:46:28 UTC) 13:04:11 <DorpsGek> dih: -Fix: signs (town name, station name, ...) could be too long for 8bit width in pixels 13:09:54 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet736.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:10:52 <peter1138> @openttd commit 14421 13:10:52 <DorpsGek> peter1138: Commit by rubidium :: r14421 /trunk/src (158 files in 10 dirs) (2008-09-30 20:39:50 UTC) 13:10:53 <DorpsGek> peter1138: -Codechange: rename all player variables/types to company *or* client so it is immediatelly clear which one you are working with. 13:13:18 <Belugas> hello 13:14:51 <peter1138> Hello Sir! 13:17:03 <michi_cc> planetmaker: I basically did what Eddi said, simple manual work 13:17:35 <Belugas> hell to you too, Sir Nelson :) 13:18:40 <peter1138> :o 13:19:01 <planetmaker> michi_cc: Thx :) 13:19:54 <Belugas> oups... 13:19:57 <Belugas> Hello 13:19:58 <Belugas> grrr 13:20:11 <Eddi|zuHause> :) 13:20:12 * Belugas shakes his keyboard 13:20:17 <Eddi|zuHause> freudian typos ;) 13:21:48 <Belugas> naaaa.... lack of typing-technic typos 13:22:27 <Belugas> i have peter1138 in way too much estime to wish him hell or else 13:27:05 <Belugas> pffff... got everything mixed up now :( I'm working on php stuff, so i write delphi code in OpenTTD, php in work@work and C++ in php project :S 13:27:24 <Belugas> lovely 13:28:48 <Eddi|zuHause> typical problem of "language jumpers" ;) 13:28:49 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Quit: [FATAL] Client error: Memory leak - More RAM needed. More! More! More!] 13:30:12 <Belugas> pretty much, yes 13:37:21 * dih waves hello to Belugas 13:39:53 * Pikita waves to dih 13:40:14 <dih> heyho 13:40:17 <Pikita> :) 13:40:22 * Belugas helloes the waves 13:45:44 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wired-75.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 13:49:38 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:59:11 <Eddi|zuHause> we've certainly had enough hell today ;) 14:01:26 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06875.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05:39 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5ED06875.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:05:43 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 14:08:06 * Celestar wishes packman had an opensuse 11.1 repo :( 14:10:21 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:15:32 <Eddi|zuHause> is that out yet? 14:15:52 <Celestar> b1 is 14:16:30 <Celestar> b2 is due tomorrow 14:18:57 * planetmaker waves hello @ dih 14:21:00 * Celestar fails to understand SGE 14:27:28 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:32:24 *** fonso [~fonso@brln-d9bacf09.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 14:38:42 *** welshdragon2 [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:39:09 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:39:18 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49:36 *** welshdragon2 [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:49:52 * Belugas does not understand at all the meaningless feature request @work 14:50:14 <Belugas> customers have this way of telling nothing at all on a long list of words :S 14:50:35 *** Aylo [~a@DSL01.83.171.150.71.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:15 <peter1138> Yes... 14:56:22 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.163.18.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:26 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:58:39 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 15:06:59 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:10:43 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:24:22 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0DAB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:23 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@cp734887-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 15:29:22 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@cp734887-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 15:32:45 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:39:53 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06875.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:55 <Belugas> ho ho... it's going to be along svn up session... 15:40:23 <FauxFaux> Uh oh. 15:41:12 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5ED06875.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:41:17 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 15:41:42 <Belugas> if you want to say it like that, it's your right. In french, it would sound silly :) therefor... /me says Ho Hooo 15:47:25 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 15:48:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r14428 /trunk/src/ (pbs.cpp yapf/yapf_costrail.hpp yapf/yapf_destrail.hpp): -Fix [FS#2306]: A 90-degree curve can be a safe waiting position if they are forbidden for trains. 15:49:48 *** jir [~jir@icm218130-orange.orange.sk] has joined #openttd 15:57:37 *** jir [~jir@icm218130-orange.orange.sk] has quit [Quit: jir] 16:03:08 <Belugas> conflicts heheh:) i wonder why ;) 16:03:41 <murray> rc-update del alsasound 16:03:49 <murray> uh 16:03:52 <murray> wrong window sry :p 16:03:58 <FauxFaux> Really? 16:11:20 <Belugas> lunch time! 16:17:10 *** lobstar_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:17:27 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:21:20 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:33 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:40 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-90.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 16:34:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd69a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:35:30 <frosch123> fjb: you are slow today :) 16:35:59 <fjb> Oh, sorry, quak frosch123. :-) 16:36:07 <frosch123> moin fjb :p 16:37:14 <fjb> I was busy planing a route for my armoured horse carriages. 16:37:46 <frosch123> are the horses also armored? 16:39:19 <fjb> No, that my become a problem with bandits. 16:44:04 *** Volley [~worf@84-119-74-178.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:24 *** lobstar_MB is now known as lobster_MB 16:46:08 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:46:48 *** lobstar is now known as lobster 16:46:52 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14429 /branches/0.6/ (6 files in 4 dirs): 16:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Update: documentation. 16:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Fix: compile failure for Windows. 16:54:48 <peter1138> :D 16:55:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:56:09 <Wolf01> hello 17:01:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14430 / (20 files in 6 dirs): -Release: 0.6.3. 17:01:06 <Sacro> :o 17:02:10 <Prof_Frink> !topic 17:02:18 <Sacro> !topic 17:02:21 <Sacro> mmm 17:02:22 <TrueBrain> @op 17:02:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 17:02:24 * Sacro noms on the topic 17:02:26 <Sacro> @op 17:02:28 <Sacro> :( 17:02:34 <ln> http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/cbs-palin-cant-name-one-single.html 17:02:36 <glx> @kick Sacro :) 17:02:36 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [:)] 17:02:39 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.6.3 | Website: *.openttd.org (Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs, Revision log: vcs, Release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots 17:02:42 <TrueBrain> @deop 17:02:43 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 17:02:43 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:02:44 <Sacro> oi 17:02:55 <Sacro> if i wanted to get kicked i'd type @password 17:03:02 <Prof_Frink> s/@/!/ 17:03:11 <Sacro> eh? 17:03:12 <TrueBrain> @kick Sacro No need, we cna kick you like this too 17:03:12 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [No need, we cna kick you like this too] 17:03:17 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:03:19 <Sacro> oi 17:03:21 <peter1138> Rubidium, lots of changes without an RC? :o 17:03:25 <Prof_Frink> @password 17:03:25 <DorpsGek> Prof_Frink: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. 17:03:32 <Prof_Frink> See? 17:03:33 <TrueBrain> @kick Prof_Frink you like to fly too? 17:03:33 *** Prof_Frink was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [you like to fly too?] 17:03:37 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5adb1dad.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:03:47 <Prof_Frink> I prefer climbing. 17:04:00 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: I was explaining Sacro's fail. 17:04:04 <TrueBrain> me 2 17:04:08 <TrueBrain> @voice Prof_Frink 17:04:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v Prof_Frink] by DorpsGek 17:04:12 <Prof_Frink> For he is one big game-loser 17:04:15 <Prof_Frink> w00t. 17:04:34 <Rubidium> peter1138: what's lots of changes? 17:04:47 <Prof_Frink> NewThings? 17:04:58 <Eddi|zuHause> has anyone done a pre-industrial-revolution industry set yet? 17:05:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. one where you can actually transport stuff with horse carriages without needing 100 of them 17:06:21 <Wolf01> ehm... pre-industrial industry? 17:06:47 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you got a problem with that phrase? :p 17:07:22 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:00 <Wolf01> pre- mean that before there was not the thing you are searching for... like pre-historic 17:08:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i know that ;) 17:09:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but the one is a "real life" term and the other is an "in-game" term, they are not related although they sound similar 17:10:11 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80AE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:16 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:11:11 <Eddi|zuHause> what i mean: in 1800 there were hardly any steel mills or power stations around, nor other large scale industries. instead there were many smaller facilities which require a more fine grided and local transportation 17:11:13 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 17:11:28 <Wolf01> passengers and mail 17:11:50 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B837AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:11:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:11:58 <Eddi|zuHause> wood, food, processed goods 17:12:28 <Wolf01> make houses accept coal too, so they won't freeze during winter 17:12:41 <Eddi|zuHause> goods were often brought to the market place 17:13:35 <Eddi|zuHause> rural houses should accept wood, town center houses coal from ~1850 til ~1950 17:15:03 <Wolf01> ok, you convinced me, we should do a grf for that, I can think and you can do the work :D 17:15:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:15:42 <Eddi|zuHause> you got that backwards :p 17:16:51 <Wolf01> I had an hard working day 17:16:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i am still working 17:17:04 <fjb> The power plants really look a bit out aof place in 1800. 17:17:54 <Ammler> yeah, industries and houses needs a pre 1930 version too :-) 17:18:09 <Ammler> a lot less production 17:24:28 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06875.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:03 <Belugas> i guess Eddi|zuHause is suggesting adding some rules for the pre-1920 era in code, not in grf 17:27:08 <Eddi|zuHause> how do svn externals work? ... like, assume i have a file x in svn-root/a/ and want a copy of that in svn-root/b, so that it automatically updates when it is changed in a 17:27:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: hm, i think most of that can be done by grf 17:27:38 <Belugas> indeed 17:27:45 <Belugas> my though too 17:28:04 <Belugas> jsut that it wold be a big package, in my opinion 17:28:17 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:28:23 <Eddi|zuHause> not significantly bigger than ECS or something ;) 17:29:22 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 17:30:04 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:30:18 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: doesn't svn 1.5 support symbolic links ? 17:30:37 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:30:53 <frosch123> and IIRC svn:externals only works for directories 17:31:02 <Eddi|zuHause> would they be portable between windows and linux? 17:31:03 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 17:31:09 <frosch123> no :) 17:33:16 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:18 <Belugas> hello frosch123 :) 17:33:18 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 17:33:30 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:33 <frosch123> hi Belugas :) 17:33:57 *** Kloeckensteijn [~janwillem@ip503dbe99.speed.planet.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:34:11 <Belugas> by the way, anyone has any idea the kind of gui that would require specific amount of industries randomly placed in scenario indistry? 17:34:18 <Belugas> lots of people talk, few propose anythng 17:34:27 <Belugas> same for towns, by the way... 17:37:18 <peter1138> Bah, 1m43s to compile 0.6.3 :( 17:52:18 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 17:55:02 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:55:27 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 17:57:30 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:30 *** Mibbi [5b32e614@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:58:29 <Mibbi> when I build a train_station or one of those truck stations, does it matter how much of the ressource is in the influenced area or is it okay if it's just one square (will the output be the same?) 17:59:50 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 18:00:16 <Belugas> you know what is the catchment area, Mibbi? 18:01:06 <Mibbi> yes, that purple grid 18:01:13 <Belugas> Good. And do you know what is the query tool? 18:01:39 <orudge> How appropriate, we have release ID 630000 on SourceForge for OpenTTD 0.6.3 18:02:22 <Belugas> hoooo! magic of the numbers! 18:15:38 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:15:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:17:52 <Ammler> still sf? 18:18:32 <ln> it's Bjarni + 4549134693! 18:18:41 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:33 <Bjarni> ln: you have a NULL termination issue (or rather lack of NULL issue) 18:21:00 <ln> it's octal? 18:21:24 <Bjarni> just say whatever you want to say in ASCII 18:21:29 <Bjarni> err 18:21:34 <Bjarni> in UTF-8 :) 18:21:45 <Bjarni> I don't want to decode anything right now 18:21:53 <Bjarni> not in the mood for stuff like that 18:22:48 <ln> well, +45 is denmark, and... 18:22:56 <Mibbi> Belugas: yes, but my question is, do I get more if more squares of the grid cover a productive region or is there no difference if it's only one square 18:23:45 *** Mibbi [5b32e614@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:28:16 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:28:25 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:29:38 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:32:21 <frosch123> Mibbi: It's all or nothing 18:32:34 <frosch123> oh, he has left 18:33:19 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e179084152.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:36:49 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:40:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051102034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:37 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:42:16 *** Fuco [dota.keys@wireless-129.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 18:51:41 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5ED06875.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:46 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 18:55:25 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 19:07:23 *** muedhiver [~mued@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-229-119.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:32 <muedhiver> hello 19:07:48 <fjb> newbridges.grf has the earliest bridge in 1920. :-( 19:08:21 <Ammler> use oldbridges.grf :P 19:09:16 <Belugas> whuhahahaha!!! 19:09:27 <Belugas> VERY good one, Ammler!! 19:09:47 <muedhiver> well, I would like to ask a question about city growing, I've played on some servers into which I see city growing regularly with a 2x2 housing, when I try to do so on local game, cities grows with anarchy in road building, I searched about this in config but I found nothing, may someone enlighten me ? 19:10:34 <fjb> :-P 19:11:20 <frosch123> muedhiver: http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_patches/Economy#Select_town_road_layout 19:11:54 <muedhiver> ah thank you 19:11:54 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 19:12:13 <planetmaker> muedhiver:town_layout = <value> 19:13:13 <frosch123> muedhiver: don't enable 2x2 or 3x3 in a running game 19:13:20 <frosch123> you won't enjoy the result :) 19:13:35 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-191-152.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:26 *** extspotter [~extspotte@host81-157-196-168.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:14:31 <extspotter> hi 19:14:42 <Prof_Frink> hey 19:15:02 <Bjarni> special service just for you: being greeted by a professor 19:15:21 <extspotter> is anyone here interested in getting involved with a TTDP/OTTD GRF project? 19:15:32 * SpComb gave chanops to his professor earlier this week 19:15:38 <peter1138> That's quite a wide subject... 19:15:48 <muedhiver> frosch123 : yeah It's why I was asking myself why it does not work, having set this feature after generating the map. Anyway I just checked with a "new" generated map and it works well, nice :) 19:15:58 <Bjarni> extspotter: any chance that you could be a bit more specific? 19:16:17 <extspotter> its the UK Planeset (Repainting pikkas nice av8s into UK and ireland airline schemes - I have permission from him of use) 19:16:28 <muedhiver> thank u 19:17:13 <extspotter> I have already done a bit for it, I have a load of ATRs down, I am doing a 737-200 now and I am planning on doing a 747 or similar, finding someone to package it as an alpha taster 19:17:24 <Prof_Frink> extspotter: Wouldn't it be better to get the models, paint them and rerender? 19:17:58 <extspotter> I am not great with computers - rerender? 19:18:35 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 19:18:36 <Prof_Frink> Convert from 3D models to 2D sprites again. 19:18:46 <extspotter> thats what I am doing 19:18:55 <Prof_Frink> Shiny. 19:19:00 <extspotter> I unpacked av8 and extracted the sprites 19:19:18 <extspotter> There is a thread on here, I will just grab a link 19:20:03 <extspotter> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=39227 19:20:52 <Ammler> fjb: http://svn.openttdcoop.org/grfdev/oldbridge 19:21:18 <Belugas> extspotter, just for sake of arguments, have you asked him if he wouldbe interested in incorporating those? 19:21:24 <extspotter> I am finsihing the spritesheet for the BA Landor 732 now 19:21:50 <extspotter> pikka? No, he likes the idea of it, but it isn't the same idea 19:22:10 <Belugas> ha.. ok. never mind me than 19:22:13 <Ammler> ( fjb, add it after other bridge sets.) 19:22:18 <extspotter> Plus TT fanatics would call it blaspheming as it goes away from the CC routes 19:22:31 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37D8BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:22:39 <extspotter> even though it would be a great thing if he did 19:22:43 <fjb> Ammler: Thank you. 19:22:53 <dih> r14428, changing nick name (also via console) cuts of the last char 19:23:07 <extspotter> do you know of anyone who might be interested in helping us make it into a GRF? 19:23:12 <dih> Rubidium: could that be part of the change of strcpy or what stuff you changed 19:23:18 <extspotter> the stuff we have completed 19:23:31 <Ammler> fjb: if you have nforenum and grfcodec, you can easily extend the bash script :-) 19:24:00 <fjb> I have both. 19:24:46 <Ammler> I just copied my LumberMill :-) 19:27:33 <Ammler> I guess, you are using NARoads, 19:27:49 <Ammler> the bridges only use the newer roads... 19:30:12 <fjb> Yes, NARoads for my NARS 2 scenario. 19:30:49 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 19:31:58 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:33:38 * Belugas is playing Back Sabbath - Snowblind 19:33:43 <Belugas> again and agin 19:33:51 <Belugas> must be feeling masochist :S 19:33:54 * fjb is playing OpenTTD. 19:34:34 <fjb> Ammler: Your oldbridge is exactly what i needed in this game. Thank you. 19:35:04 <Ammler> you are welcome :-) 19:36:56 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:11 *** Nite_Owl_ [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:37:13 *** Nite_Owl_ is now known as Nite_Owl 19:41:07 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-224-108.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 19:41:16 <planetmaker> I'm currently toying around with the infrastructure sharing and I'm puzzled. 19:41:45 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/115428 <-- why do the highlightes lines not block a train from entering the tile? 19:43:08 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-189-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:26 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-189-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 19:43:52 <planetmaker> I know, a weak argument, but it had been working 500 revisions ago or so and I don't see what changed. 19:44:42 <frosch123> planetmaker: that is only the path finder 19:45:07 <frosch123> whether a train can actually enter a tile is decided in TrainController 19:45:08 <planetmaker> yes. And I want to tell the pathfinder: competitors waypoints are inaccessible 19:45:41 <planetmaker> at all times. 19:46:51 <frosch123> btw. you should add a IsRailTT() somewhere 19:48:08 <planetmaker> hm, right :) 19:48:48 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-167.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:14 <Wolf01> 'night 19:52:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:53:00 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 19:54:22 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has joined #openttd 19:57:03 <DJNekkid> jeesus, i hate 1A... 19:57:21 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-224-108.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:37 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 19:57:58 <ln> jeesus Êr ikke hÊr, og hvad Êr 1A fÞr nÃ¥nting? 19:58:11 <DJNekkid> action0 prop 1A 19:58:13 <dih> DJNekkid, try Bethlehem - jesus liked it there too :-D 19:58:50 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.105.56] has joined #openttd 19:59:23 <DJNekkid> http://paste.openttd.org/115433 19:59:30 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-181-26.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 19:59:54 *** Euro_swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 20:00:20 <nicfer> hmmm, there is no openttd 0.6.3 news post in the forums 20:02:03 <nicfer> hmmm should be considered breakdowns a (minor) disaster? 20:02:07 *** th1ngwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 20:02:26 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet736.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:02:27 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [] 20:02:27 *** th1ngwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [] 20:02:39 <fjb> Starting a game in 1821 is a bit tedious... 20:02:41 <DJNekkid> nvm, sorry... 20:02:42 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 20:02:54 <DJNekkid> i dont hate 1A after all, i had my list sorted by something else then ID :) 20:06:58 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:38 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet736.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:11:00 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@cp734887-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:11:33 <nicfer> I think that the disasters in openttd should be changed 20:11:50 <nicfer> at least by newgrf 20:12:08 <dih> anybody got 0.6.3 stable 20:12:47 <nicfer> me 20:13:31 <dih> can you do me a fav? 20:13:40 <dih> join a network game and rename via console 20:13:46 <dih> name blah 20:13:53 <dih> (no quotes around the new name) 20:14:03 <dih> and tell me if it sets your name to bla or blah 20:14:22 <DJNekkid> needs quotes if it's a space in the name 20:14:38 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:57 <dih> DJNekkid, i am well aware of that 20:15:10 <dih> thing is that current nightly is ditching the last char 20:15:54 <DJNekkid> oh... 20:16:04 <dih> ;-) 20:16:55 <dih> now i just want to know if it's in todays stable release :-P 20:17:29 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet736.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:17:51 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@cp734887-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 20:18:46 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:18:58 <dih> nicfer, any feedback? 20:19:26 <Belugas> Tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!! Twaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!! 20:19:35 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, I get a terrible squeaking noise if I turn mic volume up too high. 20:19:39 <dih> now twat is not the most polite word i know :-P 20:19:43 <frosch123> Belugas: 40 mins, go go go 20:20:17 * Belugas types like a crazy man! 20:20:33 *** extspotter [~extspotte@host81-157-196-168.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 20:21:28 <nicfer> dih: yes, it changes my name to blah 20:24:05 <frosch123> Ammler: http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=3725&pid=49510#pid49510 <- you are doomed 20:24:18 <dih> nicfer, thanks ;-) 20:24:56 <Ammler> frosch123: lol 20:25:14 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:25:44 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5C502.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:26:10 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet736.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:28:36 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B71CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:18 <Bjarni> Ammler: so how long will it take before you bug us to commit something? :) 20:29:28 <Bjarni> I can see that you are hard at work already 20:30:11 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:30:16 <Ammler> well I have a nice patch for to commit, not from me, just nice :-) 20:31:58 <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3977 20:32:30 <Ammler> (oh, maybe needs rework because of Rubidums player changes...) 20:32:56 <Chrill> Sacro Sacro Sacro, without leaving, the brianetta thing's hit 2050 20:33:05 <Sacro> oh? 20:33:13 <Chrill> thats why i prodded you 20:33:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-109-149.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:33:24 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34:41 <Sacro> Chrill: not sure if i should update to 0.6.3 20:38:12 <Chrill> there is the safe release? :P 20:38:50 *** Mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498C0BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:39:07 <planetmaker> What's wrong about 0.6.3, Sacro? (just curious) 20:39:26 <Sacro> planetmaker: i'm not sure if my job as a server admin entails me updating versions 20:41:24 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:41:38 *** Aylo [~a@DSL01.83.171.150.71.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:36 <Chrill> Sacro, you lost the game :( 20:43:51 <Sacro> I know 20:43:56 <Sacro> i told tenebrae to tell frink 20:45:47 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:46:29 <Chrill> you told tenebrae to tell us all :( 20:46:31 <Chrill> or so she did :o 20:47:08 *** Mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498C0BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:47:23 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: You can come back now. We've stopped discussing your hot stepsister. 20:48:39 <peter1138> Yeah, we've moved onto Sacro now. 20:49:32 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: sigh 20:52:42 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: sign 20:53:26 <planetmaker> Sacro: at least it's only bug fixes, so it can only be more stable :) 20:53:47 *** Euro_swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 20:57:50 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 21:00:09 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:04:13 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: [FATAL] Client error: Memory leak - More RAM needed. More! More! More!] 21:08:02 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 21:13:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd69a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-83-170.leed.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:44 <Brianetta> Sacro: We're running 0.6.3-rc1 21:17:59 <Sacro> Brianetta: yes, I pondered about compiling the upgrade but wasn't sure 21:19:20 <Brianetta> Sacro: You're naming the saved games wrongly (: 21:19:39 <Chrill> Brianetta, when will your server fool with my scenario? :P 21:19:41 <Sacro> Brianetta: i copy pasted the command you gave me 21:19:56 <Brianetta> Sacro: I gave you that command when we were at 0.6.2 21:20:04 <Sacro> oh... yes 21:20:14 <Sacro> and `openttd -v` doesn't work 21:20:18 <Sacro> sigh D: 21:20:22 * Sacro goes into the folder and renames 21:20:23 <Brianetta> -v? 21:20:31 <Sacro> -v ersion 21:20:39 <Sacro> i don't think it has --version either 21:21:09 <planetmaker> --revision 21:21:32 <Sacro> planetmaker: that's non standard 21:21:54 <planetmaker> it's for the revision control systems i know 21:22:14 <planetmaker> like svn or hg 21:22:21 <Brianetta> exec $command -d -h 21:22:31 <Brianetta> That's how we determine version 21:22:52 <Brianetta> grab the first line of output 21:23:03 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:26 <Sacro> hmm 21:24:51 * Brianetta rebuilds 21:25:21 <Brianetta> OK, next instance run should be 0.6.3 21:25:23 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 21:25:24 <Prof_Frink> "Brianetta Rebuilds" - sounds like a film 21:25:39 <Brianetta> Helen and I watched two films today 21:25:44 <Brianetta> Death Race, then Taken 21:25:48 <Brianetta> Completely ace 21:25:52 * welshdragon shall download 0.6.3 in the morning 21:26:02 <Brianetta> There's a trailer for The Transporter 3 21:26:13 <Brianetta> which also looks like an awesome stick of rock 21:26:55 *** welshdragon is now known as welshdra-gone 21:33:50 <Belugas> Brianetta obviously has no kids yet, been able to have so much free time :P 21:34:14 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:35:34 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37D8BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:37:33 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:16 *** ihrHuren [~ficksau@p5494569D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:38:18 <ihrHuren> ficken 21:38:25 *** ihrHuren is now known as hilter 21:38:30 *** hilter is now known as ficksau 21:39:00 *** ficksau is now known as hitler-fickt-dich 21:40:22 <Eddi|zuHause> so.. where exactly are ops when you need them? 21:40:47 *** hitler-fickt-dich [~ficksau@p5494569D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you have any questions. (2008-10-01 21:40:47)] 21:40:48 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B71CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 21:41:06 <Eddi|zuHause> ok... that ought to do it :p 21:41:15 <Vikthor> Eddi|zuHause: Now do you need them? 21:43:58 <Belugas> i'm here 21:44:01 <Belugas> still at work 21:44:09 <Belugas> now... what was that? 21:44:34 <Brianetta> Belugas: I have a week off work 21:44:56 <Brianetta> We were off to clamber on mountains in the Lake District, but the weather was less than ideal and we came home early. 21:45:08 <Brianetta> As for kids, what do you mean, "yet?" 21:46:12 <Belugas> I see... lucky you 21:46:14 <Belugas> yet... 21:46:15 <Belugas> well.. 21:46:26 <Belugas> since i've known you , you're with helen 21:46:37 <Brianetta> yes 21:46:44 <Brianetta> happily married 21:46:49 <Belugas> sounless she's you sister, she's ou girlfriend/wife or else 21:46:53 <Belugas> haaa..mariried 21:46:55 <Belugas> ok. 21:46:56 <Prof_Frink> Happily sprogless 21:46:59 <Brianetta> indeed 21:47:16 <Brianetta> why would we want to bring expensive eating machines into our house? 21:47:28 <Belugas> that was my point :) 21:47:32 <Belugas> not in yet 21:48:10 <Brianetta> Neither of us want kids. I can't see that changing for me, although I can't speak for Helen on that score. 21:48:17 <Belugas> but you know... took us 14 years (or more,,, i don't recall) before deciding to give it a go...so... 21:48:30 <Brianetta> What made you want to have a kid? 21:48:40 <Belugas> good question 21:48:43 <Belugas> still dunno 21:48:47 <Brianetta> Whenever I hear parents talking about their kids, they just drive me further from wanting one. 21:48:51 <Belugas> i guess a lot came out of curiosity 21:49:08 <Eddi|zuHause> why would you not want kids? 21:49:27 <Belugas> loosing liberty, for once, Eddi|zuHause 21:49:37 <Belugas> long term enslaving 21:49:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean besides they are expensive, they are dirty, and all the world is going to hell 21:49:57 <Brianetta> Eddi|zuHause: Where to start? They cost money to clothe and feed. They take up precious space in the house. Their things take up even more. They destroy your sleep, and inhibit your freedom to bugger off and climb on mountains. 21:50:01 <Eddi|zuHause> you are going to die at some point, so something of you should live on 21:50:15 <Brianetta> Added to which, you CANNOT SEND THEM BACK - even if faulty. 21:50:21 * Belugas nods 21:50:22 <Prof_Frink> \o/ climbing on mountains 21:50:47 <Prof_Frink> Brianetta: Well, you can, but that tends to inhibit your freedom to bugger off and climb on mountains even more. 21:50:49 <Brianetta> Enough of me will live on after I'm gone. I'm more than my genes, in any case. 21:51:02 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, "so something of you should live on" that is purely narcissic 21:51:11 <Brianetta> The impression I've already left on lives will remain. 21:51:23 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, more than genes you can teach your child all you know 21:51:34 <Brianetta> I can teach any child all I know. 21:51:40 <Brianetta> I don't actually want to have to. 21:51:46 <Belugas> et paf dans les gencives 21:51:47 <Prof_Frink> Also, I'm going to clone Brianetta. 21:52:13 <Brianetta> Prof_Frink: A baby twin? All I need. 21:52:46 *** jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 21:53:04 <Eddi|zuHause> you can't ever have as much influence on a child that is not your own 21:53:05 <jordi> hi 21:53:19 <jordi> congrats for the new website 21:53:21 <jordi> really cool! 21:53:22 <Belugas> yes you can,Eddi|zuHause. 21:53:27 <Belugas> thanks jordi 21:53:42 <Belugas> (on behalf of those who worked on it) 21:53:51 <Brianetta> Eddi|zuHause: Frankly I'd rather adopt. 21:54:11 <Brianetta> Then I can impose my world view and beliefs on somebody else's spawn. 21:55:15 <Brianetta> Fact is, the very idea of having a child in my house, and being expected to actually pay for its keep, and to be held responsible for its wellbeing and its behaviour, is completely and utterly unappealing in every respect. 21:55:45 <Eddi|zuHause> frankly, i can't imagine i could raise a child that is not mine 21:55:59 <Brianetta> Some people are natural fathers. Andel is such a man. Some people are not. I am not. 21:56:28 * SmatZ hopes to be 21:56:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea if i would be a good father, but i definitely want to have kids 21:57:08 <jordi> blathijs: we should package 0.6.3 asap, so we can try to stick it in lenny 21:57:18 <jordi> and ubuntu 8.10 21:57:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i just have to find the right person to have them with before ;) 21:57:47 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:47 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 22:01:09 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.105.56] has left #openttd [] 22:03:48 <Belugas> hoooo.... customer is so happy about me fixing his stuff, he gave me tickets for Nine Inch Nails :D 22:04:07 <Brianetta> Belugas: Score. 22:04:34 <Belugas> pretty much so ! 22:04:34 <Bjarni> Brianetta: are you telling us that you lack the father gene even though you come from a big family??? 22:04:41 <Bjarni> now that's scary 22:04:59 <Chrill> why does everyone have names on B? Brianetta, Belugas, Bjarni.. 22:05:08 <Chrill> Born_Acorn, bleepy, blathijs, Bergee.. 22:05:14 <bleepy> oh hai 22:05:15 <Belugas> You forgot Beter1138 22:05:19 <Belugas> ang blx 22:05:23 <Chrill> and Bacro :( 22:05:26 <bleepy> oh, thought someone actually wanted something 22:05:28 <Belugas> and Bubirium 22:05:36 <Bjarni> bleepy :P 22:05:48 <Chrill> and BrueBrain? 22:05:49 <bleepy> notice all the b's wake up now they've been highlighted :/ 22:05:58 <Chrill> bleepy, they all were 22:06:00 <Brianetta> Bjarni: One half of my big family is adopted. 22:06:07 <Chrill> the other half is Brianetta 22:06:14 <Brianetta> er 22:06:19 <bleepy> and to think, I had a 5 day idle before I just spoke 22:06:19 <Bjarni> lol 22:06:23 <bleepy> :( 22:06:30 * Chrill blames the other Bs for their names 22:06:33 <Chrill> also, idle is fail 22:06:48 <Bjarni> bleepy: in here we don't care about idle 22:06:54 <Bjarni> in fact we prefer to ignore it 22:07:16 <bleepy> well I've survived this long, so didn't think there was a problem :P 22:07:20 <bleepy> I'd chat if I was like.. ever at home 22:07:20 * Belugas buns bome and his bife 22:07:24 <Belugas> bye bye 22:08:29 * Bjarni wonders what Belugas just said 22:08:37 <Bjarni> he went to the boom boom room? 22:25:54 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:30:59 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:12 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: didn't you ask once here how to kill a process, if kill -9 doesn't work? 22:31:18 <Ammler> was there a solution? 22:31:33 <Eddi|zuHause> only rebooting... 22:31:40 <Ammler> meh 22:31:51 <FauxFaux> Zombies! 22:32:02 <FauxFaux> RUN, MAN, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. 22:32:06 <Ammler> Zormbies doen't hurt 22:32:56 <Ammler> but that is something else 22:33:43 <Ammler> you should be able to kill zombies with killing parents. 22:34:06 <Ammler> well, then I reboot :-) 22:35:05 * Ammler wonders how the shutdown kills the process. 22:35:28 <FauxFaux> They can be zombied waiting for kernel stuff too.# 22:35:32 <Eddi|zuHause> they are not vampires, where you only need to kill the ÃŒber-vampire 22:36:04 <Ammler> top told 0 zombies 22:42:14 <fjb> All my horses are getting old. :-( 22:43:18 <Ammler> can you "renew" them? 22:44:14 <Eddi|zuHause> replace them by metal horses ;) 22:45:17 <fjb> I can nrenew them, but I'm running out of money. 22:45:43 <fjb> The metal horses are expensive and don't have that much hp. 22:52:04 <FauxFaux> Less than 1? Does the game even support it? 22:52:44 <FauxFaux> Is that UKRS? Keep meaning to have an 1800 onward game 22:53:22 <Ammler> FauxFaux: there are around 6 horses per vehicle 22:53:37 <FauxFaux> The trains have sub-6? :/ 22:53:48 <Ammler> before 1900? 22:54:02 <FauxFaux> Do the modern measurements of horsepower even actually correlate with horses at all? 22:54:12 <Ammler> don't think so :-) 22:54:20 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 22:54:37 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-27-131.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:54:56 <FauxFaux> Having said that, it could be something useless like the force a shetland pony puts on my wallet. ¬_¬ 22:55:02 <fjb> No, trains have more hp than a horse carriage. But the running costs are much higher. 22:55:32 <FauxFaux> Mmm. 22:55:34 <Ammler> fjb: is it well balanced btw? 22:55:41 <Ammler> (NARS->egrvts) 22:55:49 <FauxFaux> I think he means "hard". 22:56:02 <FauxFaux> Did I mean NARS or UKRS? I don't even know. \o/ 22:56:16 <Ammler> FauxFaux: he uses NARS :-) 22:56:59 <fjb> Ammler: Don't know yet. Started the first game in 1835, but I got bankrupt about 20 years later. Now I'm playing the second game and started in 1821. 22:57:05 <Ammler> NARS->UKRS isn't balanced, afaik, but didn't check with version 2 22:57:10 <Aali> any devs active? 22:57:14 <Aali> Rubidium? 22:57:22 <fjb> It is 1850 now and my company still exists. 22:57:48 <fjb> I'm playing NARS 2 at the moment. 22:58:17 <fjb> The running costs of UKRS are prohibitive high. 22:58:38 <Ammler> do you use any newindustries? 22:58:53 <fjb> PBI 22:59:38 <fjb> egrvts has lower running costs, but you need a lot of horses to get anythnig moved. 23:01:40 <fjb> At least my train is now faster than the horses are. 23:07:01 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 23:10:54 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 23:12:37 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:14:07 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:27 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:19:58 *** Pikita [~sam@89.241.231.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:46 <Aali> SmatZ 23:26:03 <SmatZ> Aali 23:27:05 <Aali> SmatZ: you're on the dev team right? 23:27:10 <SmatZ> yes 23:27:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C808.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27:48 <Aali> i'm making a patch that disables train reversing at signals, Ammler and I discussed it in the ottdcoop channel 23:28:20 <SmatZ> Aali: I think it is a waste of time, michi_cc has already written that patch 23:28:33 <SmatZ> and maybe is modifying it 23:28:43 <SmatZ> sorry :-/ 23:28:51 <SmatZ> well 23:28:54 <SmatZ> what are your ideas? 23:29:21 <Aali> well, i've already made the patch the way i want it, so that's not a problem :P 23:29:25 <Aali> the issue at hand was: 23:30:43 <Aali> should the configuration be like the pbs setting, where you set the wait time to 255 to disable reversing, or should it be an option for line reversing in difficulty settings? 23:31:32 <Aali> ujhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyygtbv~~y ^} 23:31:47 <SmatZ> I think 255 is better :) 23:31:58 <Aali> sorry about that, COMK 23:32:03 <SmatZ> :) 23:32:07 <Aali> (cat on my keyboard) 23:32:12 <SmatZ> :-D 23:32:29 <Aali> so you agree with Ammler then :P 23:32:49 <SmatZ> probably :) 23:34:12 <Aali> i'll see if i can get in touch with michi_cc 23:34:49 <Aali> something really must be done about the reversing ASAP 23:35:59 <SmatZ> some devs think '0' should be used for that purpose 23:36:27 <SmatZ> and some think "do not reverse if there is no way after reversing (PBS-only)" as the best solution 23:36:31 <SmatZ> I am in favour of that 23:36:35 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has quit [Quit: Quit] 23:36:47 <SmatZ> but it has to be discussed and decided 23:37:41 <Ammler> is 255=-1? 23:38:10 <SmatZ> 255 == (byte)-1 23:39:45 <Ammler> just thinking why 255 is bad... 23:40:05 <SmatZ> I think patch settings (errr, advanced settings) are compared as signed integers before they are stored... not sure, would take ~20 secs to look 23:40:10 <SmatZ> less than write this text... :) 23:40:26 <Ammler> I suggested your fav already after the YAPP test at coop 23:40:35 <SmatZ> maybe because you would allow 76-254 days waiting time, and that is not allowed now 23:40:44 <SmatZ> maybe because it is more intuitive 23:41:05 <Ammler> well, anyway 23:41:42 <Ammler> the other 2 wait options should at least have same bandwith as the pbs waiting 23:41:59 <Ammler> so disabling wouldn't be that bad either 23:45:03 <Aali> as long as something like that goes into trunk soon, i'm happy 23:46:46 * Rubidium wonders what made it critical right now 23:48:59 <Aali> it has been bothering me ever since i started playing with nightlies, i just didn't realize how easy it is to fix until now 23:51:09 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 23:55:30 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179084152.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 23:55:42 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]