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00:00:00 <TrueBrain> ovi: you are always free to ask :) 00:00:09 <ovi> thank you so much 00:00:18 <Sacro|Laptop> TrueBrain: Arch > Gentoo 00:00:29 <ovi> I am trying to start a server and my friend cannot see me 00:00:34 <ovi> what am I doing wrong? 00:00:43 <TrueBrain> @openttd port 00:00:43 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 00:00:49 <ovi> I opened the ports in the router 00:01:10 <TrueBrain> Sacro|Laptop: for example, Gentoo puts games in /usr/games/share and /usr/share/games .. what should go in what is slightly vague, but I got it :) 00:01:13 <Sacro|Laptop> did you forward them to the server machine? 00:01:19 <TrueBrain> (the dir /usr/share/openttd is VERY invalid ;)) 00:01:23 <Sacro|Laptop> TrueBrain: that's stupid 00:01:26 <ovi> how do I do that? 00:01:29 <Sacro|Laptop> why is /usr/share/openttd invalid? 00:01:33 <TrueBrain> we call that a policy 00:01:42 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/ 00:01:42 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/bin/ 00:01:42 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/bin/openttd 00:01:42 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/ 00:01:42 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/applications/ 00:01:43 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/applications/openttd.desktop 00:01:44 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/doc/ 00:01:46 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/doc/openttd/ 00:01:48 <TrueBrain> @kick Sacro|Laptop SPAM! 00:01:48 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/doc/openttd/32bpp.txt 00:01:48 *** Sacro|Laptop was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [SPAM!] 00:01:53 <TrueBrain> brr 00:02:06 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:02:08 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/openttd.16.png 00:02:10 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/ 00:02:12 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps/ 00:02:14 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps/openttd.256.png 00:02:15 <TrueBrain> @kban 30 Sacro|Laptop SPAM! 00:02:15 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Error: 30 is not in #openttd. 00:02:16 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/ 00:02:18 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/ 00:02:20 <Sacro|Laptop> openttd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/openttd.32.png 00:02:20 <TrueBrain> @kban Sacro|Laptop 30 SPAM! 00:02:21 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] by DorpsGek 00:02:21 *** Sacro|Laptop was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [SPAM!] 00:02:40 <TrueBrain> I hate clients which resume their paste after a kick ... 00:02:52 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] by DorpsGek 00:03:08 <ovi> hey guys, how do I forward the ports to the server? 00:03:20 <TrueBrain> read the manual of your router 00:03:37 <ovi> I did that, in the router and I opened the ports but still no luck 00:03:57 <TrueBrain> while opening, you tell the router to where to forward 00:03:59 <TrueBrain> make sure that is okay 00:04:03 <ovi> it will work in the LAN but not over the net 00:04:30 <vvv444> ovi: 1. Have you ensured router restart isn't required after configuration update? 00:04:49 <ovi> I did not try that, I will give it a shot 00:04:57 <ovi> I have the ewire router 00:05:15 <vvv444> ovi: 2. Does the computer you are trying to connect to has DHCP address? 00:05:43 <vvv444> ovi: 3. If you give the router model maybe I can help you more. 00:05:43 <ovi> it is a computer in Romania, but nobody can see me 00:05:50 <ovi> just a sec 00:06:05 <vvv444> Do you know what DHCP is at all? 00:06:13 <ovi> ewire 3800HGV 00:06:22 <ovi> no, What isDHCP? 00:06:47 <vvv444> What OS does the comp have? 00:06:52 <TrueBrain> @op 00:06:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 00:06:56 <ovi> windows XP 00:07:02 <TrueBrain> @deop 00:07:03 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 00:07:26 <orudge> Hello all 00:07:34 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:07:37 * Sacro|Laptop dances 00:08:18 <TrueBrain> Sacro|Laptop: to continue where we left off: each distro has its own policy. That is not silly, that is how the facts are 00:08:26 <Sacro|Laptop> yes it is silly 00:08:30 <Sacro|Laptop> they should follow the LSB 00:08:35 <vvv444> ovi: Just a sec. 00:08:38 <ovi> ok 00:08:41 <ln> the LSD? 00:08:46 <TrueBrain> yeah, sure, the world should work in your image .. 00:08:49 <TrueBrain> what is wrong with people today :( 00:10:53 <TrueBrain> bah, all the prefixing ... 00:11:26 <Sacro|Laptop> --prefix=/usr 00:13:22 <TrueBrain> should be /usr/games, but that fails as man pages should go to /usr/share 00:13:22 <TrueBrain> grr 00:13:56 <Sacro|Laptop> that's weird 00:14:03 <Sacro|Laptop> --manpath=/usr/share 00:14:08 <Sacro|Laptop> --prefix=/usr 00:14:18 <Sacro|Laptop> can't the gentoo chaps write their own ebuild? 00:14:33 <TrueBrain> which OpenTTD doesn't have (manpath) 00:14:40 <Sacro|Laptop> hmm 00:14:41 <TrueBrain> they did .. and it is wrong 00:15:04 <Sacro|Laptop> the old ArchLinux pkgbuild have 5 lines of sed >< 00:15:44 <Sacro|Laptop> ./configure --prefix-dir=/usr --binary-dir=/bin --icon-dir=/share/pixmaps --data-dir=/share/openttd --personal-dir=/.openttd --install-dir=$startdir/pkg/ 00:15:48 <Sacro|Laptop> is what we are using now 00:16:05 <TrueBrain> personal-dir is wrong 00:16:15 <Sacro|Laptop> seeing as there is a lack of DESTDIR 00:16:19 <Sacro|Laptop> what shoul it be? 00:16:43 <TrueBrain> just .openttd 00:16:45 <TrueBrain> (default) 00:16:57 <Sacro|Laptop> eh 00:17:01 <Sacro|Laptop> that is .openttd 00:17:05 <Sacro|Laptop> well ~/.openttd 00:17:20 <TrueBrain> then don't paste /.openttd 00:17:31 <Sacro|Laptop> mmm 00:17:36 <Sacro|Laptop> can't be bothered to change it 00:20:12 <TrueBrain> annoying that data-dir is always prefixed with 'prefix' 00:22:48 <TrueBrain> hmm 00:22:53 <TrueBrain> turns out I do not need to worry so much 00:22:58 <TrueBrain> 'make install' is never executed :p 00:24:57 <Sacro|Laptop> haha 00:25:11 <TrueBrain> hmm ... what is the difference between shared dir and global data dir? 00:25:17 <Sacro|Laptop> errm... 00:25:21 <Sacro|Laptop> is shared 1777? 00:26:16 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:06 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 00:28:33 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:42 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:29:59 <glx> <TrueBrain> hmm ... what is the difference between shared dir and global data dir? <-- probably a windows thing 00:32:11 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: AS A VAGINA ONCE SAID: <yorick> SOMEONE BAN HIM] 00:32:28 <TrueBrain> tnx glx 00:32:46 <TrueBrain> so lets try my little ebuild .. 00:32:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74A26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:37:02 *** ovi [~ovi@99-7-242-190.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 00:37:21 *** ovi [~ovi@99-7-242-190.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:41:50 <TrueBrain> good night 00:41:56 <TrueBrain> Sacro|Laptop: tnx for your input nevertheless :) 00:42:18 <Sacro|Laptop> TrueBrain: yay :) 00:44:21 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 00:45:28 <TrueBrain> oh, my ebuild works btw, and it seems to put the files in the right place :) 00:47:13 <Sacro|Laptop> nice 00:52:14 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has quit [Quit: Quit] 00:55:09 <fjb> Good night and have fun. 00:55:43 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D6B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:56:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14471 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_vehicle.cpp: [NoAI] -Codechange: simplify some AIVehicle functions and store value returned by ::GetVehicle() when it's used multiple times 01:03:23 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-183-156.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83E56.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83AF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:05:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 01:12:08 *** bow^znc_ [~johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 01:14:59 *** bow^znc [~johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14:59 *** bow^znc_ is now known as bow^znc 01:15:01 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:21:49 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:26:17 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 01:34:22 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet536.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:36:33 *** ovi [~ovi@99-7-242-190.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 01:49:29 *** Zorni [zorn@e177237090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:50:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:50:52 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:50:55 *** [com]buster is now known as [alt]buster 01:56:27 *** Zorn [zorn@e177232209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:59 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180067191.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:02:32 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577B89D9.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 03:05:36 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:07:01 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067025.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:03 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 03:09:21 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:38:27 *** infin [infin@c220-237-84-169.ipswc1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:00:18 *** infin [infin@c220-237-84-169.ipswc1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 04:00:51 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0E390.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 04:01:31 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netrep.oftc.net] has quit [autokilled: This host triggered network flood protection. please mail support@oftc.net if you feel this is in error, quoting this message. (2008-10-16 04:01:31)] 04:28:28 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-42-180-23.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:31:09 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-42-180-23.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:35:36 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 04:57:28 *** Zorn [zorn@e177237090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 05:04:46 *** Zorni [zorn@e177237090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:33:46 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 08:50:04 <dih> @seen Brianetta 08:50:04 <DorpsGek> dih: Brianetta was last seen in #openttd 14 hours, 33 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Brianetta> "Oh, did we say know? We meant care." 08:50:55 <dih> any other tcl fanatics in here? 08:53:02 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:58:58 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:58:58 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:01 *** [com]buster is now known as [alt]buster 09:00:11 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:11:20 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netrep.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:11:25 <TrueBrain> [ebuild N ] games-simulation/openttd-trunk-14468 USE="alsa iconv png zlib -debug -dedicated -timidity" 0 kB [1] 09:11:25 <TrueBrain> :) 09:12:47 <petern> Simulation, eh? 09:13:27 <TrueBrain> yeah ... Gentoo put it there 09:13:37 <TrueBrain> guess it makes sense :p 09:13:56 <TrueBrain> more the point was that I now have a latest-nightly ebuild :) 09:18:13 *** ecke [~ecke@pc153-245.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 09:18:42 <petern> Typical. I compile as debug to... be able to debug something. 09:18:45 <petern> And it runs :o 09:19:29 <planetmaker> petern: the reverse would be much more frustrating :) 09:19:37 <planetmaker> Have a tea, a cookie and relax :) 09:20:16 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:23:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.173.21] has joined #openttd 09:26:04 *** Zorn [zorn@e177237090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.173.21] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29:47 *** Zorn [zorn@e177224022.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:29:54 *** fonso [~fonso@e178102131.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:30:56 <petern> I'd rather like the packages in my OS to just work, to be honest :p 09:39:39 <petern> Bah, why does Ardour (a GTK+ app) feel the need to impose its own colour schemes on me? :( 09:40:10 <TrueBrain> how do you get an application in your start menu ... :s 09:40:50 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 09:41:05 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:41:25 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41:25 *** [com]buster is now known as [alt]buster 09:41:40 *** ecke [~ecke@pc153-245.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 09:42:26 <petern> What OS? 09:43:00 <TrueBrain> linux 09:43:04 <Gekz> rofl 09:43:07 <Gekz> then it's not a start menu 09:43:16 <Gekz> TrueBrain: which desktop environment 09:43:29 <TrueBrain> call it how ever you want, I truly don't care 09:43:50 <Gekz> ? 09:43:53 <Gekz> which DE? 09:44:03 <TrueBrain> KDE, Gnome, don't care 09:44:05 <TrueBrain> :) 09:44:17 <TrueBrain> I assumed an entry in /usr/share/applications would be enough .. 09:44:29 <Gekz> xdg-update 09:44:36 <Gekz> update-xdg* 09:44:54 <Gekz> probably too hardcore old 09:44:56 <Gekz> lol 09:45:03 <TrueBrain> both not here 09:45:20 <Gekz> I cant remmeber 09:45:30 <Gekz> I know theres a command to update the cache 09:45:33 <petern> The modern way is a .desktop entry. 09:45:42 <TrueBrain> ah, lacks MimeType key .. 09:45:45 <TrueBrain> update-desktop-database 09:45:50 <Gekz> that'd do it 09:45:55 <Gekz> yes, desktop-databaes 09:46:14 <TrueBrain> nevertheless, it is not in my menu yet :( 09:51:41 <Vikthor> TrueBrain: Maybe look into eutils.eclass, how they do it? (I gather you are on gentoo ...) 09:52:10 <TrueBrain> even more, I am trying to create an ebuild :p 09:52:36 <Gekz> ebuilds suck 09:52:38 <Gekz> terribly 09:52:41 <Gekz> they are so touchy 09:53:55 <Vikthor> Well than use the functions from eutils.eclass( If you do and it does not work then sorry for stating the obvious) 09:54:18 <TrueBrain> make_desktop_entry, I use 09:54:21 <TrueBrain> but somehow it doens't show up 09:54:24 <TrueBrain> and I don't get why .. 09:55:05 <Vikthor> aha, well then sorry that's as far as I would get 09:55:35 <TrueBrain> :( 09:55:43 <TrueBrain> tnx for helping anyway :) 09:57:03 <Vikthor> You are welcome 09:57:21 <Vikthor> I am heading for lunch and to school, bye 09:58:40 <TrueBrain> have fun! 09:59:33 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat3.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:59:57 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:00:45 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 10:01:49 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D6B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:01:55 <fjb> Hello 10:04:08 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:05:54 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:05:54 *** [com]buster is now known as [alt]buster 10:14:49 *** sulai [~Miranda@Zefbd.z.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:47 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.152.151.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 10:25:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:26:48 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:48 *** [com]buster is now known as [alt]buster 10:43:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83AF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 10:47:17 *** Metalcore [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:01 *** fonso [~fonso@e178102131.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 10:48:57 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:58 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:58:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14472 /trunk/Makefile.bundle.in: -Fix: add docs/obg_format.txt in bundles too 11:02:20 *** keyweed [~keyweed@home.keyweed.com] has joined #openttd 11:02:37 *** keyweed_ [~keyweed@home.keyweed.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14473 /trunk/Makefile.bundle.in: -Fix: also install the root .txt and COPYING files to docs/ 11:11:42 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:13:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14474 /trunk/ (Makefile.bundle.in Makefile.in config.lib): -Add: allow --binary-name to set the name of the binary, icon, desktop file, etc. when installing. Useful to get a stable next to a trunk-nightly 11:18:24 *** sulai [~Miranda@Zefbd.z.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:28:21 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 11:33:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14475 /trunk/ (config.lib media/openttd.desktop.in): -Add: allow setting the name of the desktop item (follow-up on r14474) 11:35:10 <planetmaker> nice features, TrueBrain :) 11:44:01 *** Zeal [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:44:39 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:45:10 <TrueBrain> best of all, finally the icons work ;) 11:46:19 <planetmaker> :P Don't care about that. But binary-name is nice :) 11:46:44 <planetmaker> but probably most people will care about symbols :) 11:46:51 <planetmaker> s/symbols/icons/ 11:47:58 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 12:01:30 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has joined #openttd 12:01:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 12:01:52 <Celestar> hey peops. 12:02:02 <Gekz> sups 12:02:08 <Celestar> could someone do the cargodest<->trunk syncing in the next 3 weeks for me? I'm a tad busy :( 12:10:14 <A_Person> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Double_size aww this doesn't seem to work anymore 12:13:04 <TrueBrain> poor Celestar :( 12:13:24 <TrueBrain> hmm .. Gentoo is annoying .. openttd is hard masked, and even so I now have a ebuild that shouldn't be hard masked, I have no way to override that from an overlay .. 12:13:41 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:18 *** eMJay [~michael@58.175.181.122] has joined #openttd 12:15:03 *** eMJay is now known as emjay88 12:15:32 *** emjay88 is now known as emjay 12:15:37 <emjay> Hi! 12:15:48 <emjay> Did anyone else notice that config.lib is broken? 12:17:03 <Ammler> emjay: trunk? 12:17:23 * Rubidium blames TB ;) 12:17:53 <emjay> yes 12:18:15 <emjay> line 2562 is missing a " at the end i beleive 12:18:49 <TrueBrain> what is broken about it? 12:19:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14476 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix r14475: (no comment) 12:19:42 <Ammler> TrueBrain: do we also have high res icon for alt-tab now? 12:20:34 <TrueBrain> Ammler: it should 12:20:42 <TrueBrain> emjay: tnx for reporting :) 12:20:44 * Ammler starts compiz 12:21:01 <emjay> no sweat 12:21:24 <TrueBrain> Ammler: before my commit, the openttd icons were named wrong 12:21:25 <Ammler> (in Hollywood mode) 12:21:28 <TrueBrain> so no system understood them 12:21:40 <TrueBrain> 16x16/apps/openttd.16.png 12:21:41 <TrueBrain> where it should be 12:21:44 <TrueBrain> 16x16/apps/openttd.png 12:23:38 <Ammler> hmm, what do I need to do? 12:23:39 <emjay> doesn't show an icon for me, just a little window of the game 12:23:41 <Ammler> install ottd? 12:23:53 <Ammler> just running ./bin/openttd 12:24:08 <TrueBrain> install of course :) 12:24:15 <TrueBrain> it needs to put the icons in the icons dir ;) 12:24:17 <Ammler> has still this ugly frame with compiz 12:24:28 <TrueBrain> but I don't know where your alt-tab stuff gets the icon from :) 12:24:38 <TrueBrain> my start-menu now does show the icon, so I am happy :) 12:24:42 <Ammler> it is compiz/KDE 12:25:12 <emjay> my gnome-do shows an icon, but alt-tab doesn't 12:25:46 *** MOG [~MapperOG@p57B2DF02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:26:13 <A_Person> € 12:26:37 <Ammler> alt-tab shows the open windows like they are and the minimized with symbols. 12:27:33 <emjay> i see 12:27:50 <Ammler> but that is compiz. 12:28:57 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:28:58 <emjay> Is there any project going on to reimplement the proprietary grf files? 12:29:15 <Ammler> did you ever visit tt-forums? 12:29:45 <Ammler> or wiki? 12:29:55 <emjay> well not really 12:30:05 <Rubidium> or the svn logs ;) 12:30:10 <emjay> I have lurked around for a while but never saw anything related 12:30:17 <emjay> (not in the svn logs, mind) 12:30:29 <emjay> so I take that as yes then? 12:30:35 <Ammler> http://www.google.ch/search?q=openttd+replacment 12:31:01 <Ammler> happy me, google accept misspelling 12:31:13 <blathijs> emjay: There is a project by the name of "OpenGFX", there is a huge thread about it on the graphics section of the openttd forums 12:31:29 <Rubidium> and an equally huge one about the license ;) 12:31:56 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:49 <FauxFaux> Licencewank. \o/ 12:33:03 <emjay> well, that'll learn me to ask first and research later :P 12:33:07 <Ammler> you are able to play with openttd without any original grfs 12:33:45 <FauxFaux> I've always wondered how playable it would be with just returning random colours if a grf that wasn't available was requested. 12:34:20 <emjay> alright, well I'd better be off 12:34:24 <emjay> bye all 12:34:27 *** emjay [~michael@58.175.181.122] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:35:13 <Ammler> FauxFaux: if you use TTRS and a decent trainset, you should have nothing missing. 12:35:35 <Rubidium> FauxFaux: ./openttd -b 8bpp-debug 12:40:03 <FauxFaux> Oh, it already supports it? Cool. </at work and can't try it> 12:41:26 <fjb> That looks funny. 12:42:46 <fjb> Using semaphores is a big advantage in that mode. :-) 12:44:46 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:47:52 *** Doorslammer [~monarodoo@PIPP-p-144-134-197-21.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 12:48:21 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:49:25 <dih> Brianetta: what you have wanted to do i have managed 12:49:27 <dih> :-) 12:49:46 <dih> i'll give you some code - one sec 12:55:08 <Brianetta> what did I want to do? 12:55:28 <ln> @seen babyottd 12:55:28 <DorpsGek> ln: babyottd was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 14 hours, 1 minute, and 12 seconds ago: <babyottd> Dictionary saved 12:56:22 *** babyottd [~babyottd@sarah.ppcis.org] has joined #openttd 12:56:24 *** babyottd [~babyottd@sarah.ppcis.org] has quit [] 13:00:04 <dih> Brianetta: http://paste.openttd.org/128445 13:00:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:00:16 <dih> you remember wanting to get the command output from the console? 13:01:06 <dih> and having these loveley workarounds with echo doneclientcount ? 13:01:29 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:01:31 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:01:31 <dih> i have a similar approach and only use my thing of doneclientcount to get out of a nested expec block 13:01:35 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 13:02:09 <Brianetta> That works as long as nobody joins or quits in the middle of a running command 13:02:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14477 /trunk/Makefile.bundle.in: -Fix r14474: also name the links in the .desktop file correclty upon install 13:02:44 <planetmaker> :P 13:02:56 * planetmaker hands TrueBrain a cup of freshly brewed tea 13:03:11 <Brianetta> it's basically what I'd have done if I could have been bothered. 13:03:49 <dih> + the -re .+?\n instead of .*\n will get me each line separately 13:04:03 <dih> so there is no need to split the buffer on \n anymore 13:04:27 <dih> and there is no need to worry about empy lines :-P 13:06:02 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 13:07:22 *** Zeal [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:07:37 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 13:11:51 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 13:13:03 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:16:46 *** keyweed_ [~keyweed@home.keyweed.com] has joined #openttd 13:19:36 *** keyweed [~keyweed@home.keyweed.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14478 /branches/noai/ (67 files in 8 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r14450:14477 13:24:22 <dih> nice glx :-) 13:27:09 <fjb> Hm, the graphics card of my second pc shows the bios messages only on my tft monitor, not on the old tube monitor. 13:30:02 <dih> fjb: that is because your tube monitor is too slow 13:30:11 <dih> and needs time before it starts displaying a signal 13:30:28 <dih> and a 'tube' monitor is called a crt ;-) 13:30:33 <fjb> Too slow for showing the bios messages while booting? Is that not simple VGA? 13:30:54 <fjb> Ok, t stand for tobe. 13:30:58 <fjb> tube 13:31:49 <fjb> It even doesn't show the bios when I enter the bios via del. So the monitor has time to warm up befor displaying anything. 13:33:19 <dih> you have 2 displays connected 13:33:20 <dih> ? 13:33:52 <fjb> I tryed it with both displays and with one at a time. Same effect. 13:34:02 <ln> *tried 13:34:33 <blathijs> weird 13:34:45 <blathijs> Perhaps some fancy big screen that doesn't do text-mode? 13:34:56 <blathijs> I hade a big 21" CRT that didn't a while back 13:35:28 <fjb> No, simple super vga thing. Works perfectly with an old Matrox card on another pc. 13:36:09 <fjb> But this pc has a "new" GeForce FX5200. 13:36:38 <dih> new? 13:36:43 <dih> and that should not be an issue 13:36:52 <blathijs> Perhaps it thinks it can do a 200Hz refresh rate, because the resolution is so low? :-p 13:36:57 <dih> check your bios if there are any specific video handling settings you can make 13:37:02 <fjb> When Windows boots up I see the windows screen flying by, but that timings are to high for that monitor so it switches off. 13:37:48 <fjb> Bios of the PC olny has AGP mode (4x, 8x) and AGP apperture size settings. 13:39:45 <fjb> Hm, doesn't that card send sync signals anymore? 13:40:12 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:49:03 *** Ammler is now known as AmmIer 14:00:42 <Brianetta> [14:49] --- Ammler is now known as AmmIer 14:00:43 <Brianetta> weird 14:01:04 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.152.151.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:25 <Brianetta> Ah, a capital I 14:01:44 <Gekz> Brianetta: get a real font 14:01:45 <Gekz> lol 14:01:54 <Brianetta> There's nothign unreal about Helvetica 14:02:04 <Gekz> it's not monospaced 14:02:07 <Brianetta> so? 14:02:08 <Gekz> it doesnt support lots of unicode 14:02:13 <Brianetta> It supports it all 14:02:15 <Gekz> it's not an irc font. 14:02:22 <Brianetta> well, there are some languages it doesn't 14:02:27 <Gekz> I'd like to see it render tibetan 14:02:33 <Brianetta> but I don't speak aboriginal antartic, or whatever 14:02:58 <Brianetta> Tibetan? They just use Chinese now (: 14:03:07 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:03:09 <Gekz> not true 14:03:20 <Brianetta> OK, they just use Chinese now or get shot 14:03:34 <Gekz> not true 14:03:41 *** archjb_ is now known as archjb 14:03:42 <Brianetta> OK, some evade detection 14:03:59 <Brianetta> but China really wants to shoot them (: 14:04:03 <Gekz> lol 14:04:06 <Gekz> its true 14:04:47 <Brianetta> Man, this Sudoku is hard 14:04:58 <Sacro> Brianetta: that one is a 3 *points* 14:05:01 <Brianetta> There are three in the Metro, a daily free paper found in UK railway stations 14:05:15 <Brianetta> The first two I do on the train before I reach work 14:05:21 <Brianetta> The third I often can't complete 14:06:44 <Sacro> ahh 14:06:47 <Sacro> scan and upload :) 14:07:29 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:15 <Brianetta> http://ppcis.org/sudoku.tcl 14:08:36 <Brianetta> wish sudoku.tcl 800200070000704030007005020009700003070209040200006700010300600020601000040002008 14:09:17 <Brianetta> I'm not using that tool, btw 14:09:29 <Brianetta> I'm solving it in my head, only writing down numbers in their final positions 14:09:30 <Sacro> sh: wish: command not found 14:09:32 <Sacro> :( 14:09:38 <Brianetta> you need to install tcl/tk to run it 14:09:42 <Sacro> ahh 14:09:48 <Sacro> no wonder yaourt wish didn't find it 14:11:19 <Brianetta> http://www.metro.co.uk/metroku 14:11:29 <Sacro> Brianetta: whoah, awesome app 14:11:36 <Brianetta> (: 14:11:45 <Brianetta> I scratched an itch 14:11:47 <Sacro> hmm 14:11:58 <Sacro> how do i unset a number 14:12:02 <Brianetta> haha 14:12:04 <Brianetta> you can't 14:12:11 <Sacro> that... fails 14:12:29 <Brianetta> It doesn't store the sudoku 14:12:40 <Brianetta> It just deletes the GUI elements 14:13:15 <Sacro> ah, hmm, right 14:13:24 <Brianetta> It's a quick and dirty 14:13:36 <Brianetta> I wanted "sudoku like sherlock" and couldn't be bothered to do it properly 14:13:45 <Sacro> yeah 14:26:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C046.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:26:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has joined #openttd 14:32:30 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:34:14 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:17 <A_Person> Hmm, it seems from the table that it's nearly impossible to maintain a station rating of more than 79 early in the game, with stations outside of towns 14:34:32 <A_Person> -nearly 14:40:44 *** fonso [~fonso@e178080176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:48:45 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:55:53 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:57:08 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet625.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:57:52 <planetmaker> interesting: openttd: /home/openttd/svn-public/src/station_cmd.cpp:567: void UpdateStationAcceptance(Station*, bool): Assertion `(rect.right >= rect.left) == !st->rect.IsEmpty()' failed. 14:57:54 <planetmaker> Server has exited 14:58:10 <glx> latest trunk ? 14:58:23 <planetmaker> nearly latest trunk. PublicServer 14:58:28 <planetmaker> 14460 14:58:34 <glx> try 14469 14:58:52 <glx> or superior 14:59:06 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:59:09 <planetmaker> right:) Thanks 15:02:35 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:50 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has joined #openttd 15:03:40 *** [demi]Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:40 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:06:01 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485DDC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:36 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:47 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has joined #openttd 15:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause> <Brianetta> Man, this Sudoku is hard <- took me 15 minutes and 27 seconds... 15:09:39 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D6B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:59 <Brianetta> Eddi: Did you jot notes? 15:10:05 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:22 <Eddi|zuHause> in which sense do you mean? 15:10:36 <Brianetta> Did you write anything down except numbers which you knew to be correct? 15:12:05 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i think i'd answer that "yes"... i write down two kinds of numbers, correct ones, and "guessed" ones, where i have two alternatives, choose one, see where it leads me, and then can roll back to the point where i guessed 15:12:16 <Brianetta> Ah 15:12:19 <Brianetta> I refuse to guess 15:12:31 <Brianetta> I will find a logical deduction or I will not solve it 15:12:37 <Brianetta> I won't use trial and error 15:13:14 <blathijs> Isn't assuming a value and proving it inconsistent deduction as well? :-) 15:13:30 <Brianetta> It isn't using logic 15:13:56 <Brianetta> Bear in mind I'm doing the solving in my head 15:14:11 <Brianetta> I can't sit there completing the game for a guess 15:14:18 <Brianetta> then rewind and try something else 15:14:26 <Brianetta> That's just brute-forcing it 15:14:32 <Brianetta> I might as well feed it to a computer 15:14:36 <blathijs> yeah, in a way 15:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause> it's kind of a hybrid technics 15:15:01 <Brianetta> I'm basically applying cryptography 15:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not real brute force, because i sit there very long deducing which options could actually lead me anywhere 15:16:00 <Brianetta> I've so far placed 14 cells 15:16:12 <Brianetta> which is fewer than were given as clues 15:16:37 <Eddi|zuHause> the first 10 or so are really easy... 15:16:58 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has joined #openttd 15:18:18 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 15:19:03 <[com]buster> I occasionally solve a sudoku via the assumption that there must be one unique solution 15:21:16 <A_Person> That's not always true... 15:21:44 <Belugas> indeed 15:22:06 <A_Person> But he probably knows that 15:22:10 <Eddi|zuHause> sudokus that do not have a unique solution are much more difficult to solve 15:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause> prime example is starting with an empty sheet ;) 15:22:37 <A_Person> Haha 15:23:15 <A_Person> A blank sheet should be relatively easy to "solve" tho 15:25:02 <Eddi|zuHause> have you ever tried it? 15:26:07 <A_Person> Not really, but since there's nothing there before you can always go back a few choices and try a better pattern :D 15:26:21 * A_Person is guessing... 15:27:01 <planetmaker> Eddi: shift lines by three every line, every 3rd shift by 4 instead of 3 15:27:32 <Eddi|zuHause> as Brianetta suggested, going back is not always considered a good playing style 15:27:42 <A_Person> Pfft, style 15:28:02 <A_Person> Going back is required if mistakes become evident :/ 15:28:39 <planetmaker> which is evidence of a flawed algorithm :P 15:28:51 <Eddi|zuHause> and, a wrong number in the first few random placements can mean you have to roll back almost the whole game 15:29:00 <Eddi|zuHause> there are no mistakes :p 15:29:18 <planetmaker> yeah... the universe is deterministic :D 15:29:20 <A_Person> Why would you... oh right, I keep forgetting 15:29:33 <A_Person> Not everyone has a reluctance to do random choices 15:29:45 <A_Person> I'd never put stuff randomly, heh 15:30:05 <Brianetta> That's my only gripe with minesweeper 15:30:08 <Brianetta> having to guess 15:30:23 <A_Person> I remember liking minesweeper 15:30:24 <Eddi|zuHause> how else would you start on an empty sheet? 15:30:35 <Brianetta> top left, 1 15:30:39 <Brianetta> next cell, 2 15:30:41 <Brianetta> so on 15:30:42 <planetmaker> 123456789 15:30:49 <planetmaker> 456789123 15:30:57 <A_Person> start in a corner, with one number, finish one n umber in some pattern, and proceed with next 15:30:57 <Eddi|zuHause> the first row is completely arbitrary ;) 15:30:57 <planetmaker> 789123456 15:31:02 <A_Person> For example 15:31:14 <planetmaker> 234567891 15:31:22 <planetmaker> 567891234 15:31:29 <Eddi|zuHause> the sudoku structure is invariant to permutation of the numbers ;) 15:31:32 <planetmaker> 891234567 15:31:49 <Brianetta> solving an empty one is, though, easy peasy 15:31:50 <planetmaker> well... and so on :) 15:32:28 <Brianetta> it only becomes difficult after ten numbers are filled in 15:32:29 <A_Person> Which is the hunch I have, should be easy 15:32:43 <A_Person> I should try sometime 15:32:47 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: well, i believe you that this attempt works, but how long does it take to find out that it works, if you knew nothing about sudokus? 15:32:50 <A_Person> I dropped my sudoku habbit a while ago 15:33:03 <A_Person> Never got very good at it 15:33:04 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-18.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 15:33:24 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: I guess pretty easy. You just need the rules and for an empty one it follows. 15:33:37 <A_Person> Just applied some basic solving rules, I actually had to look them up, I couldn't guess a way for solving it myself 15:33:39 <planetmaker> but hard to guess - as I did a few :) 15:33:44 <A_Person> a rational one anyway 15:34:42 <glx> Brianetta: hp48 minesweeper is better 15:34:42 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:35:13 <glx> you must go from top left to bottom right 15:35:47 <Brianetta> I have a HP50g 15:35:58 <A_Person> oh, heh, yo meant the first guess? 15:36:01 <Brianetta> and it's all right, but you sometimes can't get the maximum score 15:36:10 <Brianetta> and sometimes you start with amine or two right there 15:36:14 <Brianetta> that involves a guess 15:36:17 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 15:36:19 <Brianetta> and frequently, losing the game 15:36:28 <A_Person> I always thought that was a matter of hitting one and refreshing every time notihng came up 15:36:38 <planetmaker> the unsolvable last tiles are nasty with minesweeper :) 15:37:09 <Brianetta> https://tyneside.lug.org.uk/fetchfile.php?fileid=19 15:37:13 <Brianetta> log in as guest if you need to 15:37:27 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, those are why i stopped playing minesweeper 15:37:53 <Brianetta> Most versions of minesweeper cheat on the first click 15:38:16 <Brianetta> With 90% mines in Windows minesweeper, you never hit one on the first click 15:38:44 <glx> I did 15:38:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Brianetta: i can place 19 numbers before i get significantly stuck, in the sudoku 15:38:49 <Brianetta> you didn't 15:39:10 <Brianetta> Eddi: Coincidewntally, I have 19 placed 15:40:06 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:40:44 <Eddi|zuHause> most of them in the lower part 15:41:00 <Brianetta> yeah 15:41:09 <Brianetta> 5s and 9s being pests 15:41:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 15:42:48 <Eddi|zuHause> found a 20th 15:44:28 * Brianetta is on the phone trying to converse while analysing 15:46:15 <A_Person> The number of towns a map has remains constant throughout the game, right? 15:46:21 <Brianetta> yes 15:46:21 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 15:46:24 <A_Person> Cool 15:46:41 <Eddi|zuHause> off topic! :p 15:46:52 <A_Person> Sorry, I'm trying a bit of play again 15:47:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.173.21] has joined #openttd 15:47:06 <Brianetta> 20. 15:47:17 <Brianetta> 21. 15:47:22 <HerzogDeXtEr> 22. 15:47:31 <Brianetta> you fibber, HerzogDeXtEr 15:47:35 <A_Person> It's a race?! 15:47:47 <HerzogDeXtEr> i dont know 15:48:00 <DJNekkid> is it possible to have different length, same ID vehicles in a articulated consist? for example 1st part is 8/8ths, 2nd is 4/8ths, and 3rd part is 6/8ths? 15:48:04 <Brianetta> More like mutual encouragement 15:48:14 <DJNekkid> i.e. the CB is on a sprite basis? 15:48:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, 21 15:48:25 <HerzogDeXtEr> ahh kay 15:48:30 <HerzogDeXtEr> whatsoever 15:48:54 <Eddi|zuHause> DJNekkid: i believe it is possible 15:49:04 <DJNekkid> oki, thanx :) 15:49:42 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 15:50:32 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. in the DBSetXL, the ET 87 (i think), has a long "locomotive", a short "wagon" and a long "wagon", where both wagons are of the same vehicle type. i don't see a reason why that shouldn't be possible in an articulated consist 15:51:31 <A_Person> I better write this up before I forget forever, wiki mentions the configure patches/vehicles service interval settings should be adjustable in increments of 5 and 10, but it's really 15 in 6.3 15:52:08 <Brianetta> 15 *is* 5 and 10 15:52:13 <A_Person> no 15:52:24 <A_Person> it's not 15:52:42 * Brianetta slaps A_Person with an addiator 15:52:42 <A_Person> increments of 5 and/or 10 15:53:10 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54:06 <DJNekkid> Eddi|zuHause: it were possible :) 15:54:21 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-18.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54:41 <planetmaker> {15} != {5,10}, if you're talking about sets :P 15:55:20 <Eddi|zuHause> 15 is 1 and 5 15:55:30 <Eddi|zuHause> 10 and 5 would be 105 15:55:30 <A_Person> i'm not talkikng about digits or sums 15:55:43 <A_Person> but increments of 15:55:53 <Eddi|zuHause> 5 and 10 would be 510 15:56:04 <Brianetta> Eddi|zuHause: 2 and 2 is 4 15:56:16 <A_Person> wiki mentions 10 or 5 with ctrl, game version 6.3 does it with 15 15:56:31 <Eddi|zuHause> there is also no game version 6.3 15:56:33 <A_Person> not exactly nice for % I think 15:56:39 <planetmaker> 2+2 = 1 on on the ring of {0,1,2} :) 15:56:47 <A_Person> 0.6.3.eddi.zuhause 15:56:54 <A_Person> That a better version? 15:57:02 <A_Person> :P 15:57:07 <Brianetta> Transporter 0.1 15:58:02 <Eddi|zuHause> A_Person: the interval for changing is dependent on the minimum/maximum range for the setting, it is automatically calculated 15:58:05 <A_Person> I hope putting signals on a rail track will affect the ability of roads o be built on it 15:58:18 <Eddi|zuHause> A_Person: plus, you can click on the number and enter one manually 15:58:32 <A_Person> Well, it didn't change when I switched to % 15:58:40 <A_Person> Hmm, that's new 15:58:57 <Eddi|zuHause> that always was there :p 15:59:01 <A_Person> I'll have to memorise that 15:59:18 <A_Person> I don't go randomly clicking at numbers by habbit, heh 16:00:52 *** [demi]Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:46 <A_Person> woot, cool, signal track blocks road 16:02:06 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:29 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 16:03:52 <Brianetta> 27 16:04:02 <Brianetta> and my brain hurts 16:04:16 <Brianetta> I'm having trouble reconstructing what I just did 16:04:20 <Brianetta> but I'm sure it was right 16:04:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i just found the 22nd, and that'll get me a good part forward 16:05:01 <Eddi|zuHause> 25 16:05:04 <Brianetta> oh yeah, that's right 16:05:29 <Eddi|zuHause> 29 16:06:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and those pesky 5/9s are gone ;) 16:06:14 <Brianetta> I still have two unresolved at the bottom 16:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause> at the right? i solved them first 16:06:39 <Brianetta> ooh 16:06:43 <Brianetta> you found a different opening 16:06:51 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd60c.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:07:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but it's not trivial to find ;) 16:08:02 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i'm too distracted now ;) 16:09:09 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:10:30 <Eddi|zuHause> 30 16:10:53 <Eddi|zuHause> 34 16:11:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure the rest is easy now 16:11:28 <Brianetta> yes (: 16:14:04 <Eddi|zuHause> done 16:14:22 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:14:28 <Eddi|zuHause> means roughly an hour 16:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause> can i tell you my opening now? 16:16:42 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:16:43 <Brianetta> completed; yes 16:16:57 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:16:57 <Eddi|zuHause> what i did: in the top right field 16:17:02 <Brianetta> yeah 16:17:07 <Brianetta> was it the 1? 16:17:15 <Eddi|zuHause> there are 2,5,7 and a filled in 8 16:17:22 <Brianetta> yes 16:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause> then there are 3 options for the 4 16:17:31 <Brianetta> yes 16:17:35 <Eddi|zuHause> but only 2 can be valid, because the 4's form a cycle 16:17:46 <Eddi|zuHause> so the 9 is the only option left for the bottom left cell 16:18:02 <Brianetta> ah 16:18:05 <Brianetta> mine was about the 1 16:18:26 <Brianetta> It resolved as a 1 regardless of the 5 and 9 situation 16:18:54 <Brianetta> no matter which way around I looked at the possibilities, it was always a 1 16:19:01 <Eddi|zuHause> see, i didn't touch the 5's at all ;) 16:28:43 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:13 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:33:10 *** Joni- [~Joni-@dsl-vsabrasgw1-ffa0c100-55.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 16:33:45 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:36:42 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:42 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:45 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:37:11 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:03 *** Joni- [~Joni-@dsl-vsabrasgw1-ffa0c100-55.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:45:57 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 16:50:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:58:22 *** ludde [~ludde@ua-83-227-238-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 17:05:51 *** fonso [~fonso@e178080176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 17:08:10 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 17:16:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:24:56 *** Maappy [~MapperOG@p57B2F493.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:15 <Wolf01> hello 17:29:44 *** MOG [~MapperOG@p57B2DF02.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:39 <Maappy> hi 17:30:51 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 17:34:27 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat3.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 17:34:49 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:35:47 *** d-mike [~mibindsei@p4FC25F9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:36:07 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:38:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:29 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:41:08 *** daspork [~daspork@71-87-194-249.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has joined #openttd 17:41:57 *** daspork [~daspork@71-87-194-249.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has quit [] 17:51:13 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:51:19 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51:19 *** [com]buster is now known as [alt]buster 17:52:40 <ln> http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/2008/10/save-cheerleader-save-world.html 17:56:22 <Eddi|zuHause> is that part of this reverse psychology campaign? 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Cursed distractions 19:26:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat3.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 19:26:54 *** Muxy [~Benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:18 <Muxy> Hello OTTD World ! 19:27:48 <SmatZ> hello 19:29:54 <Zuu> Hello Muxy ! :) 19:30:18 <A_Person> Heh 19:31:00 <Muxy> is there some people here that enjoy hosting OpenTTD server ? 19:31:21 <Sacro> yah 19:31:43 <Muxy> and also in dedicated mode 19:32:02 <Vikthor> sure 19:33:23 <Vikthor> !pomoc 19:33:32 <Vikthor> sorry wrong window 19:33:59 * Rubidium wonders what enjoying hosting openttd servers actually mean 19:34:19 <Rubidium> like having (on average) 0.5 players connected to your server is enjoyable? 19:36:23 <Vikthor> For me playing with other on server I host 19:36:29 <Vikthor> *others 19:37:52 <frosch123> Vikthor: !password is the correct command here 19:38:04 <Vikthor> though I dont't host any just now because I don't have any machine available, but that will change(soon, I hope) 19:38:49 <AmmIer> looking for someone hosting our game 19:38:50 <Vikthor> frosch123: It would be if my desire was to be kicked, in fact I was trying to find out adress of Tycoonez svn 19:39:17 <Muxy> about those who host ottd dedicated server, do you have, somtimes players that creat company and leave without building anything ? 19:40:41 <frosch123> Muxy: Some days ago someone (maybe Ammler) said wrt that topic, that he always joins by creating a company, so he can immediatelly start when he likes the map. 19:41:11 <AmmIer> maybe I am not the only one :-) 19:41:19 <Muxy> sorry ? 19:41:22 <AmmIer> but there is a patch 19:42:05 <AmmIer> but servers without admins sucks anyway. 19:42:15 <Prof_Frink> Ammler: You seem to be 'ammier than usual. 19:42:17 <frosch123> AmmIer: Did you had a discussion with In ? 19:42:22 <Muxy> I talk about people who host server not playing ottd 19:42:26 <AmmIer> and damin could just use reset_company. 19:42:41 <AmmIer> frosch123: I "disabled" highlight :-) 19:43:14 * AmmIer maybe not everyone has same font then me ;-) 19:43:18 <Muxy> what do u think of people, instead of using the "watch game", creates a company and leave immediatly (after watching the game) 19:43:37 <AmmIer> that is booring :P 19:43:56 <glx> Muxy: just post your patch somewhere :) 19:43:58 <Prof_Frink> AmmIer: Even if they do, <tab> knows. 19:44:13 <Muxy> i open a thread about that subject in the tt forum 19:44:25 <glx> in dev section? 19:44:26 <AmmIer> those are highlights from bot, he doesn't know ;-) 19:44:45 <Muxy> no in the sugestion section 19:45:20 <Muxy> here : http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=39971&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=1cd262a7725deee6ae6015a43b289ed0 19:45:29 <glx> you didn't post the patch 19:45:53 <glx> most server admins compile their server 19:46:03 <Muxy> not yet, i just want to have some remarks from admin servers 19:47:15 <AmmIer> there is already a patch for... 19:47:46 <Muxy> patch ? written by who ? 19:47:49 <Muxy> where ? 19:49:00 <AmmIer> hmm, some days ago, someone else (or was that you?) spoke already about that topic. 19:49:49 <Muxy> yes it's me, but before publishing the patch i would like to have comments about this. if it's usefull or not at all 19:51:43 <Muxy> should i post this thread in the dev section ? 19:52:06 <Eddi|zuHause> so basically you want an "autoclean empty" feature? 19:52:21 <glx> he has it 19:52:38 <Muxy> no i dont want, i have made it, but i'd like to know if admin would like it or not 19:53:05 <Muxy> that' s why i opened a thread in the suggest section 19:53:12 <glx> Muxy: I think you'll get more comment for a patch in dev section, than for a idea in suggestions section 19:53:19 <Vikthor> Muxy: Admins do not matter that much, it's developers who decide 19:53:47 * glx rarely looks in suggestions (too much garbage) 19:54:07 <Muxy> yeap but dev will decide regarding the thread. if admin will like or not. 19:54:07 <Vikthor> And they wont't decide without seeing the patch 19:54:35 <Muxy> yeap but before publishing we can discuss about the function 19:54:49 <Muxy> then i will publish the patch 19:55:06 <Muxy> the dev will decide to include in the code 19:55:20 <Muxy> as it is or improove it 19:55:20 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55:50 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:55:56 <planetmaker> Muxy: it's far more fruitful to discuss an existing patch which people can try. All else is nearly futile 19:56:35 <Muxy> ok in the thread i publish that u can test it on my servers... just for looking... 19:58:01 <Muxy> but as mention someone, that most admin recompile their server, i will publish the patch, but where ? dev forum or bugs.openttd.org ? 19:59:12 <Muxy> but before this, should i add some code in order use a new variable from the cfg file ? 19:59:36 <planetmaker> dev forum is a good choice for publishing patches, if you want community attention 19:59:43 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:47 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:53 <planetmaker> bugs.openttd, if you are sure it's trunk worthy and want dev attention :) 20:00:44 <Brianetta> Is "not having one's patch included" a bug? 20:01:11 <planetmaker> a buggy description :P 20:01:37 <glx> feature requests are bugs too 20:02:02 <planetmaker> yeah. Right. Those features are improperly implemented :P 20:02:06 <Muxy> ok, i will start in the dev forum, then i will have some admin comments, then when it will be beautifull i will send it to trunk... sounds ok ? 20:02:43 <planetmaker> I doubt the latter - but substitute that by "post at bugs.open...." is ok :) 20:03:11 <planetmaker> but if glx likes it, he might send it to trunk :) 20:03:24 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 20:03:29 <Muxy> yes of course. i will open a task... 20:03:55 <Muxy> my first goal is to have admin attention... 20:05:22 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:10:31 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:12:50 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F744.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:16:11 *** vvv444 [~vvv444@89-138-168-208.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [] 20:21:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd60c.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-101-232.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:30:59 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:06 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:11 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:40:23 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:44:24 *** Maappy [~MapperOG@p57B2F493.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:36 <Wolf01> 'night 20:48:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:59:40 *** TrueBrain is now known as TrueBrainsource 20:59:43 *** TrueBrainsource is now known as TrueBrain 21:06:54 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:21:15 <A_Person> 7,6 trains/month. Hmmm 21:31:48 *** vvv444 [~vvv444@89.138.168.208] has joined #openttd 21:36:43 <Zuu> Muxy: Don't have to high expectations about fast trunk include. A 1-liner patch I made took 10 days on flyspray before it got included. I have a longer patch that is mostly ready but I'm working on a document that will help the person who kindly will spend some of his (or her) time to understand what I have done. 21:38:18 <ln> Muxy: a 10-line patch takes about 4 months to get included. 21:38:55 <Prof_Frink> Unless you sleep with one of the devs. 21:39:03 <Prof_Frink> Or threaten to. 21:39:18 <Zuu> Prof_Frink: Tried? ;) 21:39:59 <Prof_Frink> Not a coder. 21:40:11 <vvv444> ln: wow, is it a general practice? Does it regards only future patches or even code beautification ones? 21:40:35 <Zuu> WidgetFocus10.patch is 672 lines :/ 21:40:39 <vvv444> *feature 21:41:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i've had patches included within 1 day 21:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> others took almost a year 21:42:08 <Eddi|zuHause> and again others are still pending... of some sort 21:42:23 <Eddi|zuHause> inbetween there, practically everything is possible 21:42:36 <Zuu> Basically a stochastic process :) 21:44:43 <Sacro> I had a patch included before I wrote it D: 21:44:48 * Sacro glares at TrueBrain for that one 21:45:17 <Prof_Frink> I had a patch included despite having never written one. 21:45:40 <vvv444> Probably it depends mostly on the patch characteristics, doesn't it? If the patch implements disputable functionality it will be pending for long time. 21:46:08 <Eddi|zuHause> it's totally itching in my fingers to start a shunting patch, but i know i could never finish it... 21:46:09 <Sacro> unless you are HackyKid *coughs* 21:46:12 <vvv444> Or if the patch code isn't perfectly debugged/styled etc 21:46:19 <Sacro> unless you are HackyKid *coughs* 21:46:37 <Zuu> vvv444: Also quite a lot on the work load of the devs of the area of the patch I would say. 21:46:57 <Prof_Frink> IIRC the "Global population" thingy is my fault. 21:48:00 <vvv444> Zuu: Reasonable. Btw, how do they track issues @ bugs.openttd.org? When one opens new issue the admins notified? 21:48:03 <ln> vvv444: disputable functionality will never be included, trivial 5-line patches maybe within 6 months. 21:48:32 <Zuu> Prof_Frink: Right in the way for a filter dialog of that list :p hehe - but will take long before that happen since first some kind of enhancement of query dialogs need to hit trunk. 21:49:35 <Eddi|zuHause> global population is useless... i want to know number of towns... 21:49:55 <vvv444> ln: Is it just because the devs have no time? Or it's for polotical reasons? i.e. it's difficult to persuade them? 21:50:42 <Eddi|zuHause> it's because the moon is not properly aligned with jupiter yet 21:50:49 * Sacro moons jupiter 21:51:15 * vvv444 going to debug the jupiter issue... 21:51:47 <ln> vvv444: mostly because they don't have time to review patches. not uncommon among open source projects. 21:52:39 <vvv444> Yeah, of course. I would like to implement like hundred new features myself but totally have no time :( 21:52:43 * Prof_Frink makes a uranus joke 21:53:10 <Eddi|zuHause> they renamed it to urectum, remember? 21:54:17 <Nite_Owl> Old joke - What is the similarity between Star Trek and Toilet Paper ? 21:54:26 <vvv444> On other hand I think if I want to try implementing patches at all. If my patches never find their way to trunk because the devs have no time to review these, not worthy the effort. 21:55:16 <Eddi|zuHause> if you surprise people with a really genious feature, everything can happen ;) 21:55:18 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Psst, I've got a tip for you. Don't fall in love with two girls if they are friends. It'll end up badly] 21:55:42 <Zuu> Coding for other projects than only your own helps increasing your coding abilities. 21:55:52 <Nite_Owl> Both circle Uranus searching for Klingons 21:56:04 <vvv444> Eddi: Well, I'm not that self confident 21:56:16 <Eddi|zuHause> like some people show up with a perfectly finalized PBS implementation ;) 21:56:17 <ln> vvv444: you can try, but just don't be surprised and depressed when your patches do not get to trunk. 21:56:43 <vvv444> Zuu: I have enough projects to code at work... :( 21:57:14 <vvv444> I shall. 22:00:51 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:55 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 22:04:33 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 22:04:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 22:10:59 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:09 <Brianetta> Nite_Owl: "What is the similarity between X and Y?" is better put as "What do X and Y have in common?" 22:19:23 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 22:20:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think it's even funny... 22:20:39 <Eddi|zuHause> must be a foreign language thing 22:21:02 <Nite_Owl> Brianetta: True - but that is the way I remembered the joke - humor is subjective 22:22:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C046.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24:56 <Brianetta> You remembered it as a "What's the difference between" by mistake? 22:27:44 <Nite_Owl> I am confused - I wrote similarity did I not 22:28:09 <Brianetta> Yes; wrecking the grammar in the process (: 22:28:11 <Eddi|zuHause> # Dra Chanasan mat dam KantrabaÃ, saÃan af da StraÃa and arzahltan sach was, da kam da Palaza, na was as dann das, dra Chanasan mat dam Kantrabaà 22:29:05 <Eddi|zuHause> # Drö Chönösön möt döm KöntröböÃ, söÃön öf dö StröÃö önd örzöhltön söch wös, dö köm dö Pölözö, nö wös ös dönn dös, drö Chönösön möt döm Köntröböà 22:30:19 <Eddi|zuHause> # Dri Chinisin mit dim KintribiÃ, siÃin if di StriÃi ind irzihltin sich wis, di kim di Pilizi, ni wis is dinn dis, dri Chinisin mit dim Kintribià 22:30:32 <Nite_Owl> Yes - the grammar may not have been perfect but as a joke it does not necessarily have to be. Jokes are generally given to colloquialisms. 22:30:51 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 22:31:52 <Eddi|zuHause> speaking of which... do the english people have a similar song? 22:32:22 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:59 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 22:33:24 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drei_Chinesen_mit_dem_Kontrabass 22:34:13 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-143c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:44:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:56 <Eddi|zuHause> (or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drei_Chinesen_mit_dem_Kontrabass for the linguistically impaired) 22:53:15 *** vvv444 is now known as vvv444|away 22:56:26 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 22:56:47 *** vvv444|away is now known as vvv444 23:00:45 *** vvv444 is now known as vvv444|away 23:09:05 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 23:19:04 <ln> vvv444|away: no away nicks, please. 23:27:45 * Eddi|zuHause is so glad that he does not have an away nick 23:27:46 <planetmaker> @seen Tiberius 23:27:46 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: I have not seen Tiberius. 23:28:50 <Sacro> @seen !password 23:28:50 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: '!password' is not a valid nick. 23:28:53 <Sacro> :( 23:28:58 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 23:28:59 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 6 hours, 5 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Bjarni> he has big pixels 23:29:12 <planetmaker> @seen DorpsGek 23:29:12 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: I have not seen DorpsGek. 23:29:19 <planetmaker> :O 23:29:29 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@12.208.15.67] has joined #openttd 23:29:40 <Eddi|zuHause> so much for a self-aware AI :p 23:29:53 <planetmaker> no mirror present :P 23:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe he scanned it :p 23:30:13 <planetmaker> :D 23:30:48 <planetmaker> @seen CIA-1 23:30:49 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: CIA-1 was last seen in #openttd 10 hours, 9 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14478 /branches/noai/ (67 files in 8 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r14450:14477 23:31:02 <planetmaker> ok, he knows at least his mates. 23:31:28 <planetmaker> @seen aronal 23:31:28 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: I have not seen aronal. 23:31:32 <ln> omg, Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 is already at 5 episodes. 23:31:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.173.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:59 <Eddi|zuHause> there was no episode this week 23:34:13 *** glx|away is now known as glx 23:34:46 <ln> ok, i only remembered about the whole series 5 minutes ago. 23:38:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:36 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:46 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd