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00:16:09  <Wolf01> 'night
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10:10:55  <Terkhen> hello
10:11:51  <Alberth> good morning
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10:37:24  <Wolf01> hello
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11:21:02  <Yorick> Fantasya: why would you leave and rejoin?
11:21:20  <Patrick> network problems?
11:22:23  <Eddi|zuHause> [30.11.2008 11:59] --> Yorick hat den Kanal betreten (~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl).
11:22:24  <Eddi|zuHause> [30.11.2008 11:59] <-- Yorick hat den Server verlassen.
11:22:25  <Eddi|zuHause> [30.11.2008 12:04] --> Yorick hat den Kanal betreten (~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl).
11:22:47  <Eddi|zuHause> so... what was the question again?
11:23:36  <Yorick> I switched terminal
11:26:17  <Yorick> he left, I quit ;)
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11:27:19  <Eddi|zuHause> [30.11.2008 12:16] <-- Fantasya hat den Kanal verlassen.
11:27:21  <Eddi|zuHause> same thing
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11:29:00  <Yorick> Server != Kanal ;)
11:29:00  <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: server != channel :P
11:29:04  <Ammler> heeh
11:29:31  <Ammler> morning all, btw.
11:29:35  <Yorick> moin
11:29:38  <Eddi|zuHause> well... anyway... why do you care?
11:29:55  <Yorick> it's polluting my screen :p
11:31:13  <Eddi|zuHause> that problem is typically met by /ignore yorick
11:32:00  <Rubidium> well... actually not because to solve the problem one should start ignoring Eddi|zuHause and Ammler too
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11:32:09  <Rubidium> and now technically me too
11:32:45  <Eddi|zuHause> ok... better idea... /startddos yorick
11:32:58  <Rubidium> hmm, can I really ignore myself?
11:33:12  <Rubidium> no, I can't :(
11:33:22  * Rubidium slaps his IRC client ;)
11:33:23  <Eddi|zuHause> depends on your level of schitzophreny ;)
11:33:25  <Ammler> [12:33] [Ignore] Added Ammler!* to your ignore list.
11:33:49  <Yorick> "Ignoring ALL from Yorick"
11:33:58  * Yorick slaps irssi
11:34:07  <Rubidium> Ammler: but are you seeing what you've said to the channel? If so, then your IRC client's broken too
11:34:17  <Ammler> test :-)
11:34:33  <Ammler> bugreport then?
11:34:45  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: technically, /ignore should only hide stuff that COMES from the channel
11:35:04  <Eddi|zuHause> the things you say are stored locally, the client never recieves its own packages
11:35:18  <Yorick> doesn't it?
11:35:38  <Eddi|zuHause> you notice that especially when sending something to a moderated channel
11:35:40  <Ammler> to solve that, you should use 2 clients, one for writing and another one for reading...
11:35:54  <Eddi|zuHause> the text you write still gets written in the channel window
11:36:14  <Eddi|zuHause> even though it never arrives at the channel
11:36:56  <Rubidium> not when you IRC with telnet and disable echoing
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13:05:28  <DJNekkid> hi guys. any action?
13:06:47  <Eddi|zuHause> i can't think of a response that would be appropriate at this hour...
13:07:40  <DJNekkid> middle of the day on a sunday(atleast for us europeans) :)
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13:09:29  <DJNekkid> anyway ... should i make a flyspray-entry on this post? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=40722
13:13:56  <frosch123> "Did you really test it sometime? I just had a quick try and it doesnÂŽt seem to work as intended. IÂŽll investigate further." <- always those TTDP discussions in OTTD forum :p
13:20:01  <frosch123> but yes, generally a flyspray entry is always useful
13:21:30  <DJNekkid> well, that michal have to take on his robe, but i'll make an entry then
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13:30:45  <DJNekkid> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2434 then :)
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16:34:47  <Aali> hmm
16:35:09  <Aali> why are the MSVC project files set to favor small code over fast code?
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16:42:24  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe management decided that the hosting costs for big files weight more than potential runtime effectivity gains on the user's side
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16:45:42  <Aali> the compile farm doesn't use MSVC as far as i know
16:47:17  <glx> it does
16:48:03  <Aali> apparently, yes
16:48:24  <Aali> then how come it makes larger binaries than i do with my copy of MSVC?
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16:59:05  <Aali> a quick and very unscientific test also reveals that an average nightly release becomes about 40k bigger when you favor speed over size
16:59:33  <Aali> which of course adds up to something more significant over X downloads
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17:08:25  <Ammler> Aali: nightlies are debug builds, afaik.
17:08:44  <Aali> nope
17:08:48  <Aali> that would make them huge
17:08:54  <Aali> and really slow
17:09:00  <Ammler> hmm
17:09:23  <Aali> might be a different version or something, they're only off by 100k
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17:13:16  <Eddi|zuHause> static vs. dynamic linking affects binary size
17:14:01  <Aali> sure, but what do they link into the nightlies that i dont?
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17:53:45  <Fantasya> good day
17:53:57  <Fantasya> how to make host file rewriter virus? :D
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17:55:24  <Aali> you're in the wrong channel for that
17:55:33  <Aali> and its incredibly stupid
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18:04:44  <Aali> oh and there's a missing double quote in the latest webtranslator update, croatian.txt, line 1340
18:05:42  <Fantasya> Aali, can you explain it? :D
18:06:42  <Aali> Fantasya: yeah, sure, here's a good explanation: you don't need nor want one and neither does anyone else
18:06:46  <Aali> so just don't do it
18:09:49  <glx> Aali: complain to the translator :)
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18:10:45  <Aali> glx: I would if I could get in touch with him, but I can't even figure out how to get a list of translators working on a language
18:10:58  <glx> I can't either
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18:25:07  <Eddi|zuHause> svn blame and then look at the commit message?
18:25:39  <frosch123> [Sat Nov 29 2008] [19:47:17] <DorpsGek> croatian   - 163 fixed, 30 changed by knovak (193)
18:25:42  <frosch123> ^^ easier
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18:26:07  <glx> but that doesn't tell how to contact him :)
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18:27:28  <Sacro> @seen LadyHawk
18:27:28  <DorpsGek> Sacro: LadyHawk was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 2 hours, 12 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <LadyHawk> would remove the possible station range grid confusion
18:27:31  <Sacro> :o
18:27:36  <Sacro> not seen her in aaaaaaaaaages
18:29:29  <Eddi|zuHause> i fear that wt2 lacks user feedback functionality (like flyspray)
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18:43:34  <Rubidium> WT2 lacks more than user feedback
18:43:47  <Rubidium> though the quote should be fixed with the next flush of WT2
18:45:56  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14645 /trunk/os/debian/rules: -Fix [FS#2431]: Debian packaging rules could use a non-existing makefile target when rerunning it with dpkg-buildpackage
18:46:45  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r14646 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:46:45  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-11-30 18:46:24
18:46:45  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: esperanto - 4 fixed by Athaba (4)
18:46:45  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changed by SuomiPoika (1)
18:46:45  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 16 fixed, 4 changed by fanioz (20)
18:46:46  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 1 fixed by dlunch (1)
18:46:46  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 57 fixed, 20 changed by Enternald (77)
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22:58:49  <Wolf01> 'night
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