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00:02:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15528 /trunk/src/saveload/ai_sl.cpp: -Fix (r15525): Check should be the other way around (thanks SmatZ). 00:03:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15529 /trunk/src/network/network.cpp: -Fix [FS#2644]: the local command queue didn't get properly cleaned when leaving a game meaning you could end up executing commands of the previous network game. 00:08:45 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause, hehe 00:12:57 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:25 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:19:21 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-77-67.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:23 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-211-146-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 00:31:49 <el_en> http://www.x-plane.com/ms_to_xp/ms_to_xp.html 00:32:45 <Elukka> yes :/ 00:32:47 <Elukka> that sucks 00:32:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:03 <Elukka> i'm not going to switch to x-plane, though 00:33:05 <Elukka> yet anyway 00:33:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:33:15 <Elukka> they have a fair bit to go before it has all the features msfs has 00:33:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i fail to see the relevance 00:37:25 <KingJ> I won't be switching while FSX works 00:40:49 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 00:44:19 <el_en> yes, unfortunately MSFS is still better, but... 00:45:16 <el_en> that's why i have both. 00:45:43 <KingJ> I'd like to get FSPassengers, but it costs more than what I bought FSX itself for 00:46:45 <Elukka> i'd like to get the level-d 767, but it's 43 euros 00:48:02 <el_en> on some other channel someone would have mentioned Flight Gear as an MSFS alternative by now. ;) 00:49:12 <Elukka> i also would want a 737, but there are none as high quality as level-d or pmdg, apparently 00:49:29 <Eoin> i have the Level-D 767, PMDG 737 + 747 00:49:33 <Eoin> there rather good :) 00:49:47 <Eoin> FSPassengers also 00:50:04 <Sacro> i want fspassengers back 00:50:07 <Elukka> if only the pmdg 737 was for fsx 00:50:10 <Sacro> i made them scream >:3 00:51:07 <Eoin> i played funky taxi-ing music 00:51:17 <Eoin> i taxied around schipol for about 25 mins 00:51:31 <Eoin> 24-9-36R-36C-36L 00:51:38 <Rubidium> poor you... you didn't even reach Haarlem ;) 00:51:41 <Eoin> i got shouted at on IVAO for that xD 00:51:47 <Elukka> i should get into VATSIM 00:51:55 <Eoin> i used to do alot of ATC on IVAO 00:51:58 <Elukka> the last time i tried, however, whatever program it was that was vista and fsx compatible didnt work at all 00:52:01 <Elukka> so i couldnt 00:52:05 <Eoin> well 00:52:13 <Eoin> it looks like the way forward is gonna be xplane 00:52:17 <Sacro> yeah :D 00:52:20 <Sacro> <3 xplane 00:52:24 <Eoin> never tried it 00:52:28 <Eoin> but i have seen it before# 00:52:41 <Elukka> unless microsoft gets back into the game once the economy stops sucking 00:53:49 <Eoin> they better 00:54:59 <Eoin> i think im going to have to look into aquiring xplane 9 00:55:20 <Eoin> there are FS-XPLANE scenery converters, arent there? 00:55:26 <Sacro> dunno 00:55:29 <Elukka> you know what was annoying 00:55:47 <Elukka> how microsoft was going all YAY DX10 WILL BE AWESOME, and this is why you should buy FSX! 00:55:53 <Elukka> then they were "oh we'll patch it in later" 00:56:00 <Elukka> then they were "well there's this preview" 00:56:07 <Elukka> "there will be no real dx10 features" 00:56:10 <Eoin> and now its never coming 00:56:32 <Eoin> thus, im glad i stuck with FS9 xD 00:56:46 <Elukka> the developers mentioned before there are no more patches coming, i believe 01:04:21 * el_en just ordered X-Plane 9 01:04:59 <Sacro> el_en: i downloaded that i think 01:05:00 <Sacro> it is nice 01:05:16 <el_en> installation size 70GB... 01:06:33 <Sacro> yep 01:06:35 <KingJ> ! 01:06:37 <Sacro> a *lot* of scenery 01:06:39 <KingJ> 70GB?! 01:06:49 <Sacro> knowing me, knowing you 01:06:52 <Sacro> *ah ha* 01:07:00 <Rubidium> *abba* 01:07:02 <KingJ> There is nothing we can do 01:08:09 * Sacro hands cookies to Rubidium and KingJ 01:08:22 <Rubidium> what kind of cookies? 01:08:34 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:08:34 <Sacro> chocolate 01:10:14 <Sacro> if you change your mind, i'm the first in line 01:12:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B61A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13:17 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:46 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:20:53 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has joined #openttd 01:22:38 <nicfer> I would like to see modular industries in some patch of ottd 01:24:36 <nicfer> That's, you could destroy a tile of them but not the rest of it 01:26:45 <Elukka> i wouldnt mind moving to x-plane of flight gear if either of them had the features of fsx... 01:26:48 <nicfer> The destroyed tiles would be rebuilt in other nearby place 01:29:05 *** SPn [~chatzilla@199.80-202-155.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 01:29:26 <SPn> Hello 01:30:53 <planetmaker> good night folks 01:33:16 <SPn> I am looking for an extensive guide on errorelimination/problemsolving regarding broadcast issues on hosting your own server online dedicated/non dedicated. I have been through the wiki and alot of sites. I need a guide for far-out solutions, not a regular guide on portforwarding. There is ofc. no firewall blocking or ports not forwarded. I even tryied DMZ'ing the whole adress and actually... 01:33:18 <SPn> ...conneting the server straight in the wall to eliminate all errors/problems with the firewall and router.. 01:34:19 <nicfer> One question, would be possible to modify a house with newgrf to accept or produce another cargo rather than pax, mail, food or goods? 01:34:32 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34:38 <SPn> Ive been through the cfg in several diffent ways and solutions and can 01:34:47 <DaleStan> nicfer: Yes. 01:34:49 <SPn> 't seem to get anything to work :S 01:35:37 <Rubidium> what do you exactly want? 01:35:46 <Rubidium> it to show up in the global server list? 01:36:05 <Rubidium> you (locally) being able to connect to the server as listed in the global server list? 01:36:16 <Rubidium> does it show up in the global server list? 01:37:12 <SPn> It doesnt show up in the global server listh wich is what I want it to do- as this would be a fair indication of it being set up correctly for other people to join 01:37:27 <Rubidium> @openttd ports 01:37:27 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 01:38:00 <Rubidium> and have you set lan_internet to 1? (openttd.cfg) 01:38:04 <SPn> Yes 01:38:20 <KenjiE20> no software firewalls? 01:38:23 <SPn> no 01:38:27 <SPn> nothing obvious 01:38:47 <KenjiE20> advertise = true? 01:38:49 <Rubidium> what kind of setup is the server? 01:38:59 <SPn> advertise is true 01:39:07 <SPn> my best card right now is actually my ISP 01:39:15 <SPn> as they might have blocked alot of ports on their side 01:39:56 <SPn> Ive heard complaints of such before- to protect their more inexperienced users 01:39:56 *** Eoin [Eoin@92-233-181-117.cable.ubr08.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 01:40:12 <SPn> but its far-fetched since Ive had no problem with any other server/application ive been running 01:40:42 <KenjiE20> hm, I've had issues too, but they were resolved with software firewall, advertise, and bind_ip 01:40:42 <Rubidium> SPn: what's the IP of the server? (external IP) 01:40:56 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177235247.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:40:58 <SPn> I havent transferred it to my mainserver yet since I want it to be running first to spare me the work via. remote control- so im running it on one of my computers 01:41:16 <SPn> 80.202.155.199 01:41:47 <KenjiE20> I get offline 01:41:59 <SPn> So do I 01:42:11 <Rubidium> the masterserver has never received a packet from you 01:42:16 <KenjiE20> most likely is a bad port forward 01:42:19 <SPn> Correct 01:42:27 <SPn> Its not a bad portforward 01:42:29 <KenjiE20> are TCP and UDP both forwarded 01:42:32 <SPn> yes 01:42:38 <KenjiE20> os? 01:42:46 <SPn> WinXP 01:42:54 <SPn> Tried Vista 01:43:02 <SPn> Havent done Winserver2008 yet 01:43:05 <SPn> neither linux 01:43:15 <KenjiE20> can you tracert to the master server? 01:44:03 <Rubidium> KenjiE20, that's similar to asking: can you connect to the openttd website 01:44:17 <KenjiE20> true 01:45:14 <Rubidium> (as it's the same server) 01:46:12 <SPn> yeah 01:46:47 <KenjiE20> I'm stumped, does openttd use the same port to query the master for the server list as it does to advertise? 01:48:19 <SPn> might be some blocking in the dsl device from my ISP- I think I'll settle with that for now and go to bed 01:48:23 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177226131.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:28 <SPn> there seems to be no obvious solution to my problem 01:48:49 <SPn> everyting else ticks as it should do and all other forwarding etc. works without a problem 01:48:58 <SPn> ive allowed it in the firewall 01:49:02 <SPn> ive turned the firewall off 01:49:07 <SPn> ive portforwarded it 01:49:12 <SPn> ive removed the whole router 01:49:21 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:49:22 <Rubidium> advertising and getting the server list go over the same port and both go to the masterserver 01:49:52 <KenjiE20> so theoretically, if he can get a server list, he should be able to advertise? 01:50:05 <Rubidium> yes 01:50:44 <Rubidium> well, if he can get a server list he would show up in the database with servers who tried to advertise 01:51:27 <Rubidium> the advertise procedure only succeeds when the masterserver can actually connect back to the server on the port that was given in the advertisement 01:51:41 <Rubidium> and only then an ack message is send back to the server 01:52:08 <Rubidium> *but* he doesn't show up in the list of servers who tried, so the packet was never received 01:52:25 *** SPn [~chatzilla@199.80-202-155.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:07 *** SPn [~chatzilla@199.80-202-155.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 01:55:24 <SPn> hm 01:55:55 * Sacro sits down 01:56:49 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-161-16-167.range86-161.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:57:23 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.30.178] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 01:58:04 * Rubidium proposes a /ignore based on the IRC client someone uses 01:58:26 <KenjiE20|LT> yea, I hate those /quits 01:58:47 <KenjiE20|LT> but it's a nice client... 02:00:51 <SPn> its features advertisement contains multiple servers and logging... sounds extremely common and basic :P 02:01:10 <KenjiE20|LT> fairly 02:01:41 <KenjiE20|LT> but the channel monitor is just so useful 02:02:10 <KenjiE20|LT> since I can stack windows up but leave the one monitor bit open and see what happens in any channel 02:02:14 <KenjiE20|LT> I'm in 02:02:27 <KenjiE20|LT> .. stupid laptop enter key 02:03:42 * Sacro considers buying x-plane now 02:04:02 <Rubidium> wow... it's functionality to mute the audio? 02:04:07 <Sacro> hmm, it'll run on the macbook 02:06:07 <SPn> Anyways. Thx for helping suggesting solutions. Hopefully I find out what was wrong and then Ill be back to post a solution if It was at all relevant to any other user. Keep up the good work! :) 02:06:20 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has left #openttd [] 02:06:21 * KenjiE20|LT wonders if theres a channel monitor style plugin for xchat so I can abandon hydra :p 02:06:58 <Sacro> zomg, shipping D: 02:07:00 <Sacro> that sucks balls 02:07:05 <Sacro> KenjiE20|LT: probably 02:08:02 <Sacro> :( almost £50 02:08:18 <KenjiE20|LT> you do get 80Gb worth of stuff though Sacro 02:08:25 <Sacro> GB :P 02:08:35 <Sacro> i want more than 10GB 02:08:40 <KenjiE20|LT> you pay £40 for a PS3 game these days 02:08:47 <Sacro> i don't personally :) 02:08:54 <KenjiE20|LT> neither do I 02:08:56 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09:03 <Sacro> but that is next week delivery 02:09:07 <Sacro> i could save and go for 1-2 weeks 02:09:10 <Sacro> 1-6 is just stupid 02:09:49 * Rubidium ponders removing himself from the op list of hydrairc users (as per 'howto' in the TODO file) 02:10:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v Rubidium] by Rubidium 02:10:23 *** mode/#openttd [-v Rubidium] by Rubidium 02:10:50 <Sacro> hehehe 02:10:50 <Rubidium> now I should not be in the list of people with ops (for hydrairc users) 02:10:55 * KenjiE20|LT is in xchat on the laptop, so I couldn't say 02:10:56 <Sacro> concorde landing at St. Marteen Princess Juliana Airport 02:11:09 * Sacro feels sorry for the beachgoers 02:11:35 <Elukka> i want to visit that beach 02:12:03 <Sacro> http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images/000/072/475_beach%20airplane.jpg <- that's the one for confused people 02:12:10 <Sacro> Elukka: it'd be... noisy 02:12:38 <Elukka> i've seen pics of some st marteen approaches that were way low... 02:12:47 <Elukka> a klm 747 touched down on the blast pad, for example 02:12:50 <Sacro> ouch 02:12:52 <Sacro> that's short 02:13:03 <Rubidium> there're enough youtube clips too 02:13:07 <KenjiE20|LT> thats the famous pic ain't it Elukka? 02:14:04 <Elukka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksmDuXO_k6E&feature=channel_page 02:14:06 <Elukka> i like this one 02:14:41 <Sacro> wtf 02:14:52 <Sacro> EDTG - EGLC 02:14:53 <Sacro> that's fine 02:15:03 <Sacro> but alternate VHHH / KLAX 02:15:18 <Sacro> that's a hell of an alternate route 02:15:30 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-18-119.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:16:16 <Elukka> heh, you can see people on the beach for a second 02:16:21 <Sacro> bremgarten - london city 02:16:34 <Sacro> diversions are chek lap kok or los angeles 02:21:30 <Elukka> http://www.psychoastronomy.org/erik/mt/archives/st%20maarten.jpg 02:21:37 <Elukka> shockingly low, just like that man's speedo 02:22:53 <KenjiE20|LT> they all look in calm awe.... right until the backwash hits 02:23:30 <Sacro> hehe :D 02:34:37 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet628.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:48:55 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:52:19 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:09:11 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:38 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:13:26 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:50 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 03:15:28 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-161-16-167.range86-161.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:17:26 *** SPn [~chatzilla@199.80-202-155.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:14 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:23:14 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:16 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:16 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest691 03:31:16 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 03:36:35 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.75] has joined #openttd 03:38:03 *** Guest691 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:56 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:49 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:59:06 *** Felicitus [~timo@p3EE3FAE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:59:09 <Felicitus> good morning 04:17:14 <Felicitus> hmm, is it possible to get an git or hg account so i can put my AI development there? 04:32:09 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:36:39 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:44:29 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 04:44:45 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 04:50:29 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 04:55:01 <glx> Felicitus: with git and hg you can do it locally 04:55:37 <glx> "hg init" in your dev dir 04:56:01 <glx> the usual hg commands 04:56:15 <glx> "hg add", "hg commit" 04:56:39 <glx> anyway time to sleep for me :) 04:56:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:58:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:00:11 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:10:09 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest698 05:10:11 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:10:38 *** Guest698 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:23:12 <Felicitus> huh, is it possible to enable something like "put coordinates into station names"? 05:23:29 <Felicitus> because some guy on kurt's builds each and every station with the coordinates as station name :) 05:34:01 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad3484b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:34:14 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad3484b.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 05:36:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:37:21 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.97.75] has joined #openttd 05:43:37 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:50:01 *** SJrX [~none@S01060008029e1eb2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:21:10 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.97.75] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 06:37:01 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:37:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:37:55 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:59 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:01:55 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-186-132-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:06:24 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 07:15:06 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177233255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:20:01 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177235247.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:21:15 <el_en> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=268687&nseq=13 07:23:56 <Elukka> snowy. 07:24:04 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177231135.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:25:06 <Elukka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrO8AFGi_rc&feature=channel_page 07:25:07 <Elukka> cowy. 07:26:58 <petern> oh dear 07:27:49 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 07:27:53 <Elukka> do they have a serious lack of depth perception or something? 07:29:00 <Pikka> petern! 07:29:10 <Pikka> invalid train length or sommat? :o 07:31:26 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177233255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:33:22 <petern> pikka! what? 07:33:50 <Pikka> when I try to join your server :) 07:34:02 <petern> hm 07:37:20 <petern> lol 07:37:22 <Felicitus> hmm, that's odd - when i have a long goods line, unload the goods at the station, and use a truck transfer service to deliver the goods to the final destination, they actually show negative profits - altough i used "transfer and full load" for the trucks :( 07:37:44 <petern> started a new game 07:37:47 <petern> dunno what happened there :/ 07:37:59 <Felicitus> cant start a new one - playing on kurt's 07:38:05 <petern> not you, me 07:38:10 <petern> and yes, that's how transfers work 07:38:10 <Felicitus> oh k 07:38:31 <petern> the truck leg took longer than expected so you got less profit than estimated in the first leg 07:38:59 <petern> you still (probably) got an overall profit though 07:39:03 <Felicitus> yes 07:39:07 <Felicitus> its in the profit sheet 07:41:17 <Felicitus> hmm, the wiki says: This option will have the train unload its cargo to a station regardless of acceptance, just as Unload does. However in this case you will receive part payment for the distance it has traveled so far. 07:41:49 <Felicitus> actually i don't recieve part payment, only when the cargo is really delivered, right? 07:46:29 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:55:00 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 07:58:44 <petern> probably out of date as usual :D 08:02:00 <Felicitus> :) 08:02:13 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> resistance.oftc.net quits: Splex, Ridayah 08:02:21 <Tefad> mmm splits 08:02:24 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 08:02:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: Splex, Ridayah 08:08:57 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 08:08:58 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-work 08:13:45 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9F181.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:14:32 <Roest> morning 08:14:59 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:18:24 <Alberth> good morning 08:26:34 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 08:26:56 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 08:27:07 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [] 08:27:37 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:32:33 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B967.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:47:33 <planetmaker> good morning 08:48:56 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 08:52:55 <dihedral> morning 08:54:18 <Forked> Gooood morning! 09:03:04 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:09:41 <Yexo> good morning 09:11:25 <Roest> nothng good about mornings in general and especially not this one 09:12:32 <Yexo> Roest: what's so wrong with this morning? 09:12:37 <Elukka> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7899171.stm 09:12:43 <Elukka> damn that cunning prawo jazdy! 09:14:09 <Forked> haha 09:14:45 <Yexo> lol :) 09:15:58 <Roest> yexo just saying :) though i reached tensor field topology while studying for my final test 09:45:45 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:47:59 <Felicitus> good morning yexo and everyone :) 09:48:07 <Yexo> hello Felicitus 09:48:18 <Elukka> mornings 09:48:57 <Felicitus> earlier this morning i had an idea whats still missing in the api - but then i had to install a db2 server and forgot what it was :( 09:49:46 <Yexo> just add it to http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/AI:APISuggestions if you remember it again 10:03:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15530 /trunk/src/ai/ai_instance.cpp: -Fix (r15519): The AIWaypoint classes were not exported to squirrel. 10:03:59 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 10:06:58 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14:32 <Yexo> Felicitus: as you asked about squirrel and static variables you might be interested in this: http://paste.openttd.org/179809 10:14:59 <Yexo> only drawback with this (using a table instead of a class) is that you can't make an instance of it 10:15:22 <Yexo> so it's either all-static (using a table) or no static at all (a class) 10:16:46 *** OsteHovel^PDA [~OsteHovel@78-109-255.ggsn.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 10:19:43 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@wnn72109.wireless.dtu.dk] has joined #openttd 10:30:11 <dihedral> table in a class? 10:30:57 <Yexo> that's an option, but then the static variables have names like: classname.tablename.varname 10:31:02 <Yexo> instead of just classname.varname 10:31:42 *** Mark [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:38:18 *** Mark [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has joined #openttd 10:53:07 <Felicitus> Yexo: thanks, i will have a look later. i need to go to bed, since i have to spin at 10pm today :( 10:54:13 <dihedral> Yexo, what about _get and _set functions? 10:54:21 <dihedral> or whatever they are called in sq 10:54:36 <Yexo> they are called _get and _set :p 10:54:51 <dihedral> get(var) { return this.tablename.$var } 10:55:29 <Yexo> function _get(var) { return this.tablename[var]; } <- that would be squirrel code 10:55:44 <Yexo> that could actually work 10:55:57 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:56:01 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:56:01 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 10:58:03 <Felicitus> okay i'm out, wish me luck that many people come tonight to listen to my music :) 10:58:31 *** Felicitus [~timo@p3EE3FAE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: hasta la spagetti, carbonara!] 11:16:57 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad3484b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:17:04 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad3484b.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:22:50 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:06 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad3484b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:07 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad51a47.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:26:06 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:30:21 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:30:39 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:37:46 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:41 <Yexo> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=766138#p766138 <- I wonder if he got the joke :) 11:46:07 *** LUADuck [~luaduck@79-72-213-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 11:46:08 <planetmaker> hehe 11:46:20 <LUADuck> Before Planetmaker asks, I'm not in openttdcoop 11:46:47 <planetmaker> why should I ask? The nicklist tells me such things easily 11:47:02 <LUADuck> moreover a question as to what linux distribution you guys use for running a server 11:47:11 <LUADuck> Fedora's being a pain with my network card 11:47:24 <planetmaker> suse works fine 11:47:34 <LUADuck> SuSe you say? 11:47:41 <LUADuck> TO THE OPENSUSE WEBSITE 11:47:50 <Yexo> LUADuck: you the one you (or your friends) have the most experience with 11:47:53 <planetmaker> well. This machine works with it. And at least one of our openttd servers, too 11:48:04 <planetmaker> But Yexo 's advice is better :) 11:48:23 <petern> i use debian 11:48:32 <petern> as every right minded server owner shoul 11:48:34 <petern> d 11:48:47 <Alberth> LUADuck: the differences between Linux distributions w.r.t. good for being a server are minimal 11:48:56 <LUADuck> yeah I'd happily use debian / UbuntuServer but I got segmentation faults on my TrackMania servers 11:49:11 <Sacro> suse for a server? 11:49:13 <Sacro> hell no wD: 11:49:17 <Sacro> *bsd 11:49:18 <planetmaker> though if you use them already, I'd advice to stick with it. 11:49:36 <planetmaker> You know your way around there. Maybe just try to find an update for whatever segfaults 11:49:59 <LUADuck> The segfault issue is caused by file intolerances 11:50:00 <Yexo> if some program segfaults, you won't fix it by switching to another distribution 11:50:15 <LUADuck> I even tried 777'ing every single file 11:50:17 <LUADuck> lol secure 11:50:22 <Sacro> nice 11:50:40 <Yexo> file intolerances? 11:50:40 <LUADuck> obviously just the TM files 11:50:45 <LUADuck> hold on 11:50:46 <planetmaker> uhm... ? 11:51:08 <planetmaker> I guess file permissions, Yexo 11:51:15 <Yexo> ah, yes 11:51:18 <LUADuck> http://www.gamers.org/tmn/quickstart.html see step 7 11:51:21 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.49] has joined #openttd 11:51:42 <LUADuck> I suppose the main issue I'm having is GUI 11:51:47 <LUADuck> moreover to have one or not 11:51:57 <LUADuck> mainly because the server's right next to me 11:52:11 <LUADuck> wonderful to have another web browser / IRC client open when playing 11:53:05 <Yexo> just attach the monitor that is now attached to your server to your normal computer 11:53:24 <planetmaker> I wonder whether a trackmania channel wouldn't be more adequate to answer questions relating to setup of such server 11:53:52 <LUADuck> planetmaker: I only pulled up the segfaults as a POI, I wasn't expecting any help 11:54:20 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@wnn72109.wireless.dtu.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54:23 <LUADuck> Yexo: Multi-Monitor + Source engine = OMG WE'RE GUNNA DIE 11:54:23 <planetmaker> well, my guess is that maybe the files have write permissions, but not the directory itself. 11:54:34 <planetmaker> or something along those lines. or wrongly setup paths 11:55:01 <LUADuck> So, people using OpenSUSE, are you using x86-64 or just x32? 11:55:10 <planetmaker> x32 11:55:19 <LUADuck> meh 11:55:35 <Roest> x64 11:55:37 <LUADuck> even though x64 should work with x86 I've never had any luck 11:55:39 <planetmaker> this machine doesn't support x64 :) 11:57:02 <LUADuck> ok fetching x64 11:57:12 <LUADuck> I <3 you wget under Cygwin 11:59:34 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 12:06:45 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:07:31 <dihedral> oh no 12:07:32 <dihedral> quack 12:07:59 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 12:08:55 <dihedral> <LUADuck> So, people using OpenSUSE <- just because one person mentioned OpenSuSE, it does not mean 'people' in general use it 12:10:24 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:45 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet628.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:12:12 <planetmaker> :) 12:12:20 <planetmaker> dihedral: two people use it :P 12:12:57 <planetmaker> another machine here runs ubuntu 12:13:06 <Yexo> and even if no-one here used it, that statement would still be valid, as it was just mentioning to who he said it 12:13:15 <planetmaker> so... all boils down to personal preference 12:13:40 <dihedral> Yexo, true - misread that :-P 12:14:05 <dihedral> reading use instead of using does make a difference :-P 12:14:15 <dihedral> planetmaker, always does :-P 12:15:02 <planetmaker> well... in many cases. 12:15:31 <planetmaker> For some things a certain OS may be preferential over others. Just for the reason of that a particular application requires it. 12:15:44 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@148-133-900.ggsn.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 12:15:56 <planetmaker> but linux is linux in this respect mostly 12:16:47 *** OsteHovel^PDA [~OsteHovel@78-109-255.ggsn.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:05 *** OsteHovel is now known as OsteHovel^PDA 12:17:09 <planetmaker> E.g. I'm quite sure that ubuntu is quite fine. But the one time I worked on that machine, I didn't find anything and it took me 3 times as long to get to the end I wanted to got to. 12:17:16 <planetmaker> -t 12:17:31 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17:39 <OsteHovel^PDA> :P 12:19:15 <dihedral> planetmaker, same thing would happen to me if i had to work on some rpm based system e.g. suse 12:19:47 <petern> yucky rpm 12:19:48 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 12:20:50 <planetmaker> he, yeah 12:20:58 <planetmaker> dmg :) 12:22:03 <dihedral> ftw 12:24:28 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has joined #openttd 12:26:36 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:28:09 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 12:31:39 *** totalwormage [~worm@89.188.20.118] has joined #openttd 12:33:27 <totalwormage> huzzahh for 0.7.0 \o/ 12:36:23 <dihedral> beta1 12:38:44 <totalwormage> hehe 12:40:50 *** elmex_ [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 12:42:39 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.16.196.74] has joined #openttd 12:43:35 <totalwormage> although, when i set the language to dutch, some text on buttons exceed the width of the button itself >_< 12:45:53 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45:55 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 12:46:01 <planetmaker> totalwormage: become translator and make shorter texts :) 12:47:00 <planetmaker> translation is something which you can do even without any programming knowledge 12:47:25 <dihedral> aye 12:47:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83B48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:47 <dihedral> it's an A****-easy thing 12:49:20 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80EDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:49:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:49:59 <planetmaker> *** ** *** **** ** *** 12:50:18 <planetmaker> */***/****/ 12:51:28 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:51:28 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:28 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 12:52:00 <KenjiE20> e 12:55:17 <planetmaker> I just changed a few strings from "Inhalt" to "Erweiterung" :) 12:56:10 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:56:17 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 12:56:58 <dihedral> Automatisch Erweiterung Herunterladen? 12:57:05 <dihedral> "mit alles?" 12:57:11 <dihedral> "mit scharf?" 12:57:29 <planetmaker> hm? 12:57:52 <Roest> while you#re at it please change "waldfrieden" into something different 12:58:05 <planetmaker> why? 12:58:16 <planetmaker> Drei Eichen? 12:58:48 <planetmaker> LandstraÃe? 12:58:55 <dihedral> Lindenstrasse :_D 13:00:11 <planetmaker> Roest: I accept constructive criticism ;) 13:00:39 <planetmaker> While I agree with you that "Waldfrieden" is a bit strange,... I've no better proposal 13:00:43 <dihedral> "hinterwaldplatzhaltestelle" 13:00:59 <planetmaker> Forst? 13:01:11 <planetmaker> It's only placed near woods, actually, is it? 13:01:18 <dihedral> no 13:01:40 <Roest> no it's just random if the naming routing cant decide north, east, west or south 13:01:47 <Roest> routine* 13:01:50 <planetmaker> ok 13:02:10 <dihedral> super-sued 13:02:14 <dihedral> sued-sued-ost 13:02:33 <Roest> dihedral that works great with grid layouts :P 13:02:39 <dihedral> :-D 13:02:41 <planetmaker> :P 13:02:57 <Roest> 2 blocks south, one east 13:03:16 <dihedral> one step right and 2 steps back 13:03:24 <dihedral> let's dance 13:04:00 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 13:04:20 <dihedral> planetmaker, "shlossplatz" 13:04:25 <dihedral> nearly every town has that one 13:04:27 <planetmaker> :P 13:04:48 <planetmaker> Schlossplatz. Right between the coal power plant, the new ICE terminal and the ore mine ;) 13:05:07 <planetmaker> But Markt could do 13:05:08 <dihedral> it's got history :-P 13:05:19 <dihedral> is Markt not more central? 13:05:25 <dihedral> but yes, that'd also do 13:05:29 <planetmaker> But that needs discussion in the the thread IMO. :) 13:05:37 <planetmaker> central = Zentrum 13:05:45 <dihedral> 'more central' 13:05:46 <Roest> nah, do it, we trust you 13:06:00 <planetmaker> Siedlung? 13:06:04 <dihedral> we all have translator2 access, so we can undo it in case we dont like it :-D 13:06:08 <planetmaker> :D 13:06:15 <Roest> project "get rid of waldfrieden" must succeed 13:06:20 <planetmaker> hihi 13:06:23 <dihedral> Asylantenheim 13:06:27 <planetmaker> pfft 13:06:41 <planetmaker> I like Siedlung :) 13:06:52 <Roest> asylantensiedlung? 13:06:59 <planetmaker> tsk 13:07:04 <dihedral> doener viertel 13:07:06 <planetmaker> Vorstadt 13:07:15 <dihedral> "mit scharf" 13:07:40 <dihedral> hof 13:07:44 <dihedral> as in 'bauernhof' 13:07:59 <dihedral> 'er Hof' 13:08:06 <planetmaker> I've seen bus stops called "Vorstadt", called "Siedlung", but not "Hof" ;) 13:08:08 <dihedral> Berlin.... -> Berliner Hof 13:08:16 <planetmaker> hm... 13:08:48 <planetmaker> it's an idea. Not a bad one actually 13:08:55 <dihedral> it is a bad one 13:09:01 <dihedral> it does not work well if you choose other town names 13:09:03 <planetmaker> but problem is "er" 13:09:10 <planetmaker> or "r" - depending on the name 13:09:27 <petern> Build: 0.7.0-beta1 built on Feb 16 2009 23:32:26 13:09:27 <petern> Reason: Assertion failed at c:\openttd\compile\src\oldpool.h:125: index < this->GetSize() 13:09:30 <petern> :o 13:09:33 <dihedral> Neudorf 13:09:45 <planetmaker> Schwimmbad ;) 13:09:51 <planetmaker> Stadion 13:09:58 <dihedral> Stadion is nice too 13:10:16 <dihedral> uh uh.... waldfr..... ops 13:10:28 <planetmaker> waldstation ;) 13:11:06 <dihedral> - Arsch Der Welt 13:11:23 <dihedral> or Busen der Natur 13:11:49 <planetmaker> :P If there was a political correct way to say "Arsch der Welt", I'd go for it. 13:12:03 <dihedral> is it not politically correct :-P 13:12:36 <dihedral> Osterberg 13:12:40 <dihedral> 'berg' in general 13:13:02 <planetmaker> hm... no. That then should be tied to geography. 13:13:09 <dihedral> Neu {String1} 13:13:12 <dihedral> :-P 13:13:29 <planetmaker> :P 13:13:43 <planetmaker> Alt {..] 13:14:04 <dihedral> you have a braces mismatch there 13:14:07 <dihedral> :-P 13:14:14 <planetmaker> [...} 13:14:16 <planetmaker> :P 13:14:27 <dihedral> that's cheating :-P 13:15:25 <dihedral> "Uf 'em Acker" 13:15:30 <planetmaker> Stadion it is now. 13:15:48 <dihedral> what happened to Siedlung? :-D 13:15:52 * dihedral hides 13:16:10 <planetmaker> given the amount of sports arenas present in even the smallest of settlements, chances are high that it's even true ;) 13:16:59 <dihedral> planetmaker, have a look at 'Obernhof', or even better search for 'kalkofen' 13:17:12 <planetmaker> ? 13:17:34 <planetmaker> you're missing and "h" and have a "n" too much :P 13:17:37 <planetmaker> in the last word 13:19:05 <planetmaker> 7 strings changed tonight at least :) 13:22:03 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:23:06 *** mikl [~mikl@80.199.116.190.static.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 13:24:47 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 13:31:17 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has joined #openttd 13:31:46 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:48 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:33:45 *** mikl [~mikl@80.199.116.190.static.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 13:34:27 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:35:07 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 13:39:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15531 /trunk/src/script/squirrel.cpp: -Fix (r15467): AIs were stopped at every error, whether they caught it or not. 13:39:48 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 13:39:51 <Celestar> hail \o 13:39:53 <Celestar> :D 13:39:58 <Yexo> hello Celestar 13:42:11 <Celestar> how is everyone? 13:42:56 <Forked> pretty good 13:42:59 <Forked> weekend is about to start 13:43:04 <planetmaker> Celestar: ! G'day. How're you? 13:43:17 <Celestar> good. very good. 13:43:19 <Celestar> but a tad busy. 13:43:27 <planetmaker> he. So am I. 13:43:29 <Celestar> I've 3 months left to finish my PhD thesis basically 13:43:40 <planetmaker> gr... yeah. :S 13:45:11 <Celestar> hence my absence :( 13:45:15 <Celestar> I've 30 pages already :P 13:46:36 <planetmaker> :P 13:47:28 <KingJ> Celestar: Thanks for creating cargo and passenger desinstaions, really good feature 13:47:42 <Celestar> thanks KingJ , it's only unfinished :(( 13:48:21 <KingJ> Would be nice to see it completed, but i'm happy with the current version which seems to be working without any noticable issues 13:49:55 <Celestar> I will resume working on it in about 4 weeks :( 13:50:24 <dihedral> Celestar, :-) 13:50:26 <dihedral> \o/ 13:50:28 <dihedral> hello sir 13:50:43 <dihedral> are asserts printed to stderr or stdout? 13:51:05 <Yexo> stderr 13:51:09 <planetmaker> KingJ: except the bugs on flyspray. 13:52:39 <KingJ> Only 6 13:53:36 <KingJ> I've not noticed a single one while playing myself, and that's with a huge network of interconnected stations 13:57:01 <dihedral> odd - then it seems Expect catches stderr ..... 13:58:14 <Celestar> Expect? 13:58:21 <dihedral> yep 13:58:23 <dihedral> Expect 13:58:25 <Celestar> even debug outputs are stderr aren'T they? 13:59:29 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:12 <dihedral> yes 14:00:26 <dihedral> but before i thought stderr was not caught by Expect 14:02:02 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:11 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 14:15:14 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad51a47.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:25 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad51a47.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 14:19:17 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:19:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:36:50 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 14:46:09 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:50:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.210.150] has joined #openttd 14:51:21 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet628.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:53:26 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad51a47.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:37 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad9f87a.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 14:57:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.160.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:06:29 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 15:10:47 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-186-132-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 15:12:03 <petern> RoR's networking is... poopy 15:12:37 <glx> last time I tried I get segfault 15:14:58 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:16:38 *** Nathan [~Nathan@92-235-88-54.cable.ubr09.wals.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:22:00 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:22:09 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 15:22:22 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [] 15:22:28 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 15:24:26 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 15:30:51 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has joined #openttd 15:31:05 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:15 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:31:25 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 15:31:40 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 15:31:54 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [] 15:33:33 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 15:40:13 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad9f87a.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40:51 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad9f87a.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:47:55 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F3FC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:50:46 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:52 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad9f87a.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:53:08 *** bleepy [bleepy@5adad4b3.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:02:23 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 16:05:45 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: NukeBuster|laptop] 16:07:38 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:07:54 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 16:09:04 <dihedral> @seen bjarni 16:09:04 <DorpsGek> dihedral: bjarni was last seen in #openttd 20 hours, 12 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Bjarni> it's on the internet after all and still.... 16:10:35 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=766206#p766206 <- 16:10:44 <dihedral> i cannot see how it could be due to his cpu 16:11:06 <dihedral> the code did not change between the 2 nightlies in question 16:11:17 <dihedral> nor did the compile farm 16:13:06 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 16:13:40 <el_en> Bjarni! 16:14:44 <Rubidium> dihedral: the compiler might've failed on something silently 16:14:59 * el_en is top-posting 16:15:47 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:01 <dihedral> how likely would it be that it fails silently on the os detection? 16:26:17 <dihedral> as that part (executed at runtime) is seemingly what is failing 16:26:44 <dihedral> never mind - i'll chat with Bjarni when he gets here :-P 16:27:02 <Rubidium> how often do I have to say that it is VERY unlikely that it is the OS detection that is flawed? 16:27:28 <Forked> a few more times, please.. (also why woul anything fail silently on anything?) 16:28:01 <Rubidium> or OSX is really stupid and it continues after a SERIOUS fault, where serious fault means an unresolveable function of an external library 16:28:13 <dihedral> hehe 16:28:24 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:28:30 <Rubidium> Forked: google around and see how many bugs are caused by e.g. compiling with -O3 16:28:42 <Forked> but apple is master and never does anything wrong.. :\ 16:28:55 <Forked> oh wait.. I don't have anything iStuff 16:28:58 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.16.210.185] has joined #openttd 16:29:45 <Rubidium> does iDoNotLikeIt count? 16:30:19 <dihedral> iDontKnow 16:30:20 <Forked> I have nothing against it, I'm sure it has it's uses.. just none for me :) 16:30:32 <insulfrog> hi all 16:31:08 <Rubidium> dihedral: you should try building a binary without -O3 and see whether that works on 10.3.9 16:31:10 <Forked> but I saw some funny advertising for apple products before xmas.. like "decorating for chrismas? buy a mac!" 16:31:51 *** loc [loc@bla.at] has joined #openttd 16:31:57 <dihedral> Rubidium, nothing in the code gets even close to the issue, CF has not changed, his OS has not changed (else the previously working nightly would also not load now) 16:32:17 <dihedral> + i am trying to setup 10.3.9 in a vm on my 10.4.11 :-P 16:32:38 <Roest> dihedral are you saying bugs have to make sense? 16:32:44 <dihedral> ... 16:32:47 <Rubidium> tralalalalalala... are you reading what I'm typing, or are you guessing what I'm thinking? 16:33:20 <glx> that reminds me a quote in the forum :) 16:33:25 <loc> wow revision 15531 :) 16:33:28 <dihedral> :-P 16:33:30 <loc> niceone 16:33:32 <dihedral> quote from TB 16:33:48 <dihedral> @openttd commit 15531 16:33:49 <DorpsGek> dihedral: Commit by yexo :: r15531 trunk/src/script/squirrel.cpp (2009-02-20 13:39:18 UTC) 16:33:50 <DorpsGek> dihedral: -Fix (r15467): AIs were stopped at every error, whether they caught it or not. 16:33:51 <petern> nah 16:33:55 <petern> 153311 is the important revision 16:34:08 <dihedral> @openttd commit 15511 16:34:08 <DorpsGek> dihedral: Commit by yexo :: r15511 trunk/src/landscape.cpp (2009-02-17 20:33:13 UTC) 16:34:09 <Rubidium> Forked: that's like "making out with your girl friend? date her mom!" 16:34:10 <DorpsGek> dihedral: -Fix [FS#2641] (r15190): Generating a map with the original map generator with freeform edges on resulted in an assert. 16:34:27 <Rubidium> petern: that poor train ;) 16:35:05 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9F181.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:36:52 <petern> DOOBEDOOBEDOOB 16:39:06 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:06 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:06 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:39:35 * welshdragon might have broken DorpsGek 16:39:40 <Rubidium> petern: Strangers in the Night (F. Sinatra)? 16:42:14 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:41 *** Nathan [~Nathan@92-235-88-54.cable.ubr09.wals.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:42 *** FauxFaux [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Switching to a non-debian irssi as this one sucks.] 16:52:51 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 16:53:01 *** Spoons [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:54:23 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has joined #openttd 16:55:06 *** _|Japa|_ [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has joined #openttd 16:57:27 *** _|Japa|_ [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has quit [] 16:57:53 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:25 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.98.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:21 <insulfrog> bbl 17:06:22 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.16.210.185] has left #openttd [] 17:06:23 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80EDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:31 *** Spoons is now known as FauxFaux 17:07:58 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80038.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:08:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:08:11 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:10:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:10:57 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 17:13:16 <Belugas> Strangers In The Night... Walter Rossi, maybe? 17:14:36 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:37 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:34 *** Avdg [~kvirc@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:30:56 <Avdg> oh wrong chanel this time :/ 17:31:00 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 17:31:02 <Avdg> lol 17:31:08 *** Avdg [~kvirc@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 17:31:32 <Rubidium> how can this be the wrong channel to join? 17:32:51 <KingJ> When you want to discuss realism *runs* 17:33:08 <Belugas> ROOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRR!!!! 17:39:53 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-61.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 17:41:09 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:10 * dihedral feeds Belugas a huge amount of fresh, bloody, meat 17:45:40 <Belugas> NOOOO!!!! GIVE ME USERS!!!!! 17:47:35 * dihedral feeds a very special user to Belugas 17:48:01 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 17:49:16 <dihedral> happy now? 17:49:49 <RvGaTe> NO 17:49:54 <RvGaTe> i want a cooky 17:51:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdf9f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:52:13 <dihedral> RvGaTe, you aint even havel as dangerous :-P 17:52:34 <RvGaTe> dont test me 17:52:38 <RvGaTe> :P 17:52:40 <dihedral> it's like a hamster threatening people with a lump of cheese 17:52:46 <dihedral> :-P 17:59:45 <Elukka> don't you know the dangers of cheese? 18:00:12 <Elukka> http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/cheese/ÂŽ 18:00:17 <Elukka> cheese is serious and not to be joked about 18:00:42 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a188.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:00:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:00:54 <el_en> [18:13] <el_en> Bjarni! 18:01:32 <Bjarni> you are repeating yourself 18:02:30 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:03:19 <Wolf01> oh finally friday evening 18:10:17 <el_en> Bjarni: no, i was top-posting. 18:13:19 <Belugas> as long as you were not composting... 18:13:48 * petern composts 18:13:52 <petern> not personally, of course 18:13:55 <Wolf01> me too 18:14:07 <petern> i have two bins, one is nearly ready to use :D 18:15:27 <Wolf01> I need to compost some more days to be ready to be used 18:16:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:18:48 <Belugas> we do not compost, as we are not gardening 18:19:03 <Belugas> either way... it wold take eons to un-freeze :D 18:19:15 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:19:59 *** {DS}LUADuck [~luaduck@79-72-213-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:20:05 <{DS}LUADuck> Herro again :3 18:20:25 <{DS}LUADuck> wait wtf 18:20:52 <LUADuck> oh ffs 18:21:00 <LUADuck> huld on 18:21:03 *** LUADuck [~luaduck@79-72-213-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: I DIDN'T MEAN TO CLICK THIS BUTTON FUUUUUUU] 18:21:14 <{DS}LUADuck> That's better 18:21:16 *** {DS}LUADuck is now known as LUADuck 18:21:47 <LUADuck> Right, anyone know of any auto-make-and-restart shell scripts? 18:22:12 <LUADuck> or am I missing something with autopilot 18:22:27 <glx> autopilot is just a start script 18:22:46 <glx> (with some management functions) 18:26:16 <Belugas> auto-make... are you talking about compiling it? 18:31:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:19 <petern> pom te pom 18:38:02 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@062016205204.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 18:41:01 *** hipahyl [~hipahyl@193.43.249.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:13 *** miga [~miga@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 18:43:37 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:13 <petern> # diy 18:47:32 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@062016205204.customer.alfanett.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:49:36 *** ProDigit [~ProDigit@c-71-206-65-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:49:37 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]] 18:49:47 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:03 <ProDigit> chatroom,nice!! 18:53:38 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 18:55:43 <planetmaker> hm... is there a grep option which returns all lines which do _not_ contain the given string? 18:56:15 <LUADuck> Belugas: Sorry for late reply, but yeah, quite a few people have auto-make scripts that automagically make OpenTTD from the nightly and restart the severer 18:56:40 * Belugas is not among those for sure... 18:56:42 <planetmaker> nvm 18:56:50 <glx> planetmaker: yes there is :) 18:56:56 <planetmaker> found it :) 18:57:03 <LUADuck> planetmaker: -string? 18:57:08 <planetmaker> -v 18:57:10 <LUADuck> :( 18:57:19 * LUADuck slaps planetmaker around a bit with a large trout 18:58:20 <planetmaker> LUADuck: get the autostart script from the #openttdcoop server, modify it to build a dedicated server and put it into a cronjob 18:58:58 <planetmaker> or at least it should teach you how to make the script you look for 18:59:24 <planetmaker> assuming you use a bash shell 18:59:34 *** miga [~miga@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:42 *** dfox [~dfox@rb5cm232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:31 <Ammler> (or use the tool from Zuu) 19:00:37 * dihedral waves 19:00:48 <dihedral> <LUADuck> [19:21:47] Right, anyone know of any auto-make-and-restart shell scripts? <- i use one 19:01:51 <planetmaker> Ammler: that won't work for servers :) 19:02:02 <planetmaker> hello dihedral 19:02:03 <dihedral> <LUADuck> [19:56:15] [...] quite a few people have auto-make scripts that automagically make OpenTTD from the nightly and restart the severer <- only one i know of 19:02:04 <Ammler> should be opensource 19:02:09 <Ammler> afaik 19:03:15 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:03:21 *** qelykoc [~qelykoc@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 19:03:54 *** ProDigit [~ProDigit@c-71-206-65-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 19:04:53 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:11:07 <Belugas> heeek... a Prodigit... 19:11:52 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@062016205204.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 19:12:02 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12:12 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 19:12:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 19:14:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:42 *** qelykoc [~qelykoc@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:38 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 19:22:51 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-211-146-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:23:16 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:23:36 <dihedral> hey ho Nite_Owl 19:23:56 <Nite_Owl> Hello dihedral 19:24:07 <dihedral> noticed something? 19:24:15 <Nite_Owl> No Owl sounds 19:24:41 <dihedral> \o/ 19:24:45 <dihedral> you are soooo good :-P 19:25:14 <Nite_Owl> I aim to please 19:28:51 <dihedral> lol 19:29:42 *** kiwocy [~kiwocy@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 19:31:11 <Eddi|zuHause> <LUADuck> Right, anyone know of any auto-make-and-restart shell scripts? <- is there more to it than a crontab entry that says "svn up && make && your_usual_run_command"? 19:35:45 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: restart the server 19:35:56 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:36:26 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 19:38:19 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause, if you use ap+, then yes 19:39:01 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:39:41 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 19:41:27 *** nicfer [~Administr@168.226.104.244] has joined #openttd 19:44:43 * dihedral listens to Dolance-5 19:46:07 <Belugas> :D 19:47:50 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:48 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228072143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 19:58:26 * Belugas is on The Precipice 19:59:02 * Prof_Frink pushes Belugas 20:00:15 <dihedral> Belugas, in an endlessloop :-D 20:13:21 * Belugas feels honoured 20:17:16 *** KingJ [~KingJ@nl1.game.kingj.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:17:36 *** KingJ [~KingJ@nl1.game.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:28 *** kiwocy [~kiwocy@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:43 *** hohosydoz [~hohosydoz@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 20:30:36 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:06 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:35:16 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a188.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37:49 <dihedral> debug_level sl=9 20:37:49 <dihedral> dbg: [map] Allocating map of size 256x256 20:37:49 <dihedral> dbg: [map] Allocating map of size 1024x1024 20:37:49 <dihedral> dbg: [sl] Game Load Failed 20:37:49 <dihedral> Broken savegame - Invalid chunk size 20:37:56 <dihedral> it is not possible to join todays nightly 20:40:27 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:55 <KenjiE20> getting the same thing here 20:41:18 <dihedral> i tried it on 2 newly generated maps 20:41:43 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:42:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F3FC.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:42:23 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:33 * Rubidium suspects r15528? 20:43:34 <dihedral> why is that? 20:44:13 <Rubidium> last saveload change 20:44:47 <dihedral> true 20:45:26 <SpComb> bisect 20:48:12 <Belugas> Danphe and The Brain 20:48:26 <Nite_Owl> Narf 20:51:57 <Nite_Owl> Pardon me - I was thinking of the Pinky and The Brain cartoon 20:59:27 <Rubidium> reverting r15528 makes me able to join again (revert it on server and client) 21:01:52 <Wolf01> omg that's much time I don't play Burnout Paradise... 800MB of update... that's a new game, not an update XD 21:01:58 <dihedral> yes, but then does not the if seem kinda odd? 21:02:41 <Rubidium> it tells one where the actual error might be 21:04:26 <dihedral> true 21:05:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15532 /trunk/src/saveload/ai_sl.cpp: -Fix (r15525): don't try to load (and forget) AI data from a non-existing AI when joining a server. In other words: you can join network servers again. 21:07:05 *** dfox [~dfox@rb5cm232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 21:07:34 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:07:34 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest821 21:07:35 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 21:08:44 *** Nath [~Nath@5ac074f9.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:11 * el_en is back from 3D movies 21:11:16 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Server closed connection] 21:11:19 *** Guest821 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:11:37 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:14:07 <dihedral> el_en, fun :-) 21:14:36 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:39 *** De_Ghost [~s@69-196-169-121.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:43 *** nicfer [~Administr@168.226.104.244] has left #openttd [] 21:14:54 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:15:24 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:16:52 <Belugas> WHAT A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo.........ng day :( 21:22:22 *** De_ghosty [~s@69-196-169-121.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 21:27:00 <DASPRiD> Belugas, you moved to mars? 21:28:49 <Belugas> yup 21:29:11 *** Belugas is now known as Ziggy_And_The_Spiders 21:29:32 *** Ziggy_And_The_Spiders is now known as Belugas 21:31:34 * Nite_Owl digs out his Bowie CD's on this channel too 21:32:29 <Wolf01> I'm looping "Paradise City" instead, I think I'll listen it about 35 times this night 21:33:43 * Belugas is moving toward Balck Sabbath - Heaven and Hell 21:34:03 <Wolf01> # Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the girls are pretty 21:35:05 * SpComb is Ceebrolistics - Lohum 21:35:30 <SpComb> a very cool sound 21:36:38 * Belugas feels like such an oldie.. 21:36:45 <Wolf01> I think I'll start the comp in 10 minutes and start to listen to Manowar or Iron Maiden 21:36:46 <Belugas> ho... wait... I AM AN OLDIE! 21:37:04 <Belugas> MAIDEN! MAIDEN! MAIDEN!! 21:38:58 <Wolf01> chose one: 1) powerslave 2) fear of the dark 3) 7th son of 7th son 21:39:21 <Belugas> Number Of The Beast? 21:39:31 <Wolf01> I miss it 21:39:35 <Prof_Frink> Powerslave. 21:39:41 <KingJ> 2 21:39:53 <Belugas> that's the best one. Beat has such a wonderfull sound! 21:39:59 <Belugas> Beast 21:40:03 <dihedral> Nath, it does not work!!! 21:40:12 <Belugas> Hallowed Be Thy Name! 21:40:19 <Belugas> Charlotte the Harlotte 21:40:24 <KingJ> Wickerman, Run to the Hills are also good ones 21:40:42 <Belugas> oh... i meant... 22 acacia avenue... 21:40:46 <Rubidium> I'd go for "storage medium with all recordings" 21:42:55 * Belugas still has vinyle record of Beast, PowerSlave, Somewhere In Time,Piece Of Mind, Killer, and some singles too 21:44:48 <welshdragon> can the train window show start points and destinations? 21:45:25 <Belugas> but indeed, in this century of new technology, where memory prices area falling faster than snow, i'd follow Rubidium's advice and put everything on a portable device 21:46:32 <Wolf01> welshdragon, try ctrl click on the orders 21:46:56 *** SmoovTruck [~imptruck@174-156-236-230.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #openttd 21:47:02 <Wolf01> (not the order button, but the orders themselves) 21:47:19 <Prof_Frink> Amarok: Iron Maiden - Aces High 21:47:38 <welshdragon> Wolf01, that quite doesxn't do what i want it to to 21:48:09 *** tkjacobsen_ [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 21:48:38 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:37 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:53:00 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:53 *** Unaimed [~moo@ua-83-227-175-8.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 21:56:43 *** SmoovTruck [~imptruck@174-156-236-230.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Quit: "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." --Bertrand Russell] 21:56:52 <Unaimed> Is there any string replace function i can use in the ottd source code? 21:58:33 <Belugas> it all depends of your editor... 22:00:09 <Belugas> it's the editor who manipulates the source code, not the program 22:00:15 <Unaimed> oh 22:00:26 <Belugas> it's that or i haveno clue on waht you are talking about 22:00:28 <Unaimed> i meant a string replace function in the ottd source code 22:00:40 <dihedral> what you want to do? 22:00:42 <Belugas> [17:01] <@Belugas> it's the editor who manipulates the source code, not the program 22:01:11 <Unaimed> i want to replace part of a string with another string 22:01:13 <dihedral> Belugas, he wants to manipultae a string within the game at runtime 22:01:20 <Unaimed> dihedral, thank you =) 22:01:24 <Belugas> ... 22:01:33 <Belugas> i'm too tired to be imaginative 22:01:34 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 22:01:44 *** Avdg [~kvirc@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 22:01:56 <Avdg> this time its becouse im at the right chanel :) 22:02:14 <Belugas> there are some fucntions who do that indeed 22:02:14 <Avdg> i have just a crash 22:02:36 <Unaimed> do you know the name of them, i've searched but can't find them 22:02:49 <Belugas> but it all depends on what exactly you want to do. You might be better off with playing with the parameters instead 22:03:34 <Unaimed> i have string "hello world", i want to replace "world" with "openttd" 22:03:46 <Unaimed> string = char[] 22:04:29 <Belugas> i do not have the sources with me 22:04:38 <Rubidium> don't think C has a function for that 22:05:05 <Unaimed> Rubidium, i beleive so aswell, i was wondering if there was a custom "shared" function in openttd i should/could use 22:05:27 <Rubidium> not really; we don't use it 22:05:53 <Avdg> oh nvm, that bug is already reported :/ 22:06:21 <Avdg> i had a [net] trying to execute a packet in the past bug 22:06:26 <dihedral> Unaimed, what _exactly_ are you trying to do? 22:07:08 <Unaimed> I want openttd to remember the town name when i change the name of a station, so that when i change the name of the town the towns part of the station name should change aswell 22:07:20 <Rubidium> Unaimed: AFAICR there's only one place where string 'replacement' is done and that's done in a manner that is not generically useful 22:07:50 <Avdg> k bye 22:07:53 *** Avdg [~kvirc@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [Time makes sense] 22:08:52 <Rubidium> as it replaces exactly 4 characters by exactly 4 characters 22:09:08 <Unaimed> yeah, i found that function aswell 22:13:00 <dihedral> can you not use {TOWN} in the station name? 22:13:10 <Rubidium> dihedral: not in custom names 22:13:21 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:51 <dihedral> Rubidium, shame :-P 22:14:14 <el_en> did anyone in starfleet ever consider how ridiculously slow to use the speech-based user interface is? 22:14:31 <dihedral> n 22:14:33 <dihedral> o 22:14:33 <Tefad> but you don't have to walk to a console 22:14:46 <Tefad> convenience wins 22:15:30 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:16:26 <el_en> also the chain of command where the ranking officer on bridge has to order raising shields when immediate threat is expected, sounds ineffective. 22:16:45 <Tefad> it's dramatic 22:16:51 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 22:16:56 <Tefad> you want to keep viewers watching the show 22:17:12 <el_en> i thought it's a documentary sent back from the future. 22:17:32 <Unaimed> dihedral, my idea is to replace the town name in all the station names in the town when the town name changes, but i need a string replace function for that, unless you have a better idea? 22:18:25 <el_en> did anyone in starfleet ever consider what it feels like to operate a computer that has lwaxana troi's voice? 22:19:31 <dihedral> Unaimed, make {TOWN} valid for custom town names 22:19:36 <Prof_Frink> el_en: No, you're thinking of Galaxy Quest 22:19:37 <dihedral> it's a replaced string :-P 22:21:34 <Rubidium> {TOWN} isn't replaced by OpenTTD; it's replaced by strgen to a 'magic' character which is replaced by OpenTTD 22:23:04 <dihedral> ah 22:23:11 <dihedral> well, that makes it a wee bit harder 22:25:24 <Rubidium> the best is probably to replace the (first) town name in the string to that magic number when renaming the town 22:26:37 <dihedral> assuming you know that 'magic number' 22:27:53 <Rubidium> well, that's something like SCC_TOWN or so 22:28:50 <Unaimed> SCC_TOWN_NAME 22:29:47 <dihedral> Unaimed, why not rename your town, then rename your stations? 22:30:37 <Unaimed> Perhaps i do not know that a want a different town name until after i've renamed the station 22:31:16 <dihedral> why rename at all? 22:31:20 <dihedral> :-P 22:31:44 <Unaimed> why don't we remove the function then, then this problem wouldn't exist =) 22:32:07 <Nite_Owl> names are attached to objects so it should not matter what order you name things in 22:32:33 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:48 <dihedral> Rubidium, a button 'prefix with townname' :-P 22:34:58 <Eddi|zuHause> <el_en> did anyone in starfleet ever consider how ridiculously slow to use the speech-based user interface is? <-- apparently they have never seen minority report ;) 22:35:24 <Nite_Owl> well in the past towns & stations had to each have a unique name but that was changed a while back 22:36:19 <Nite_Owl> quite a while back if I am remembering correctly 22:36:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember in TTO you could not type "À" "ö" and "ÃŒ", because they got catched by some kind of hotkey handler 22:37:07 <Eddi|zuHause> "Ã" Ã" and "Ã" worked 22:39:24 <petern> "catched" :o 22:39:36 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738c8f7.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:39:45 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever ;) 22:41:17 <Rubidium> petern: yeah, new spelling rules; catched seems to be prefered over caught in this channel 22:41:29 <Rubidium> at least lately 22:42:07 <Rubidium> same as sais, pais, payed, paied, sayed and saied 22:42:19 <Eddi|zuHause> at least we germans DO reform our spelling :)) 22:42:34 <dihedral> and that of others 22:42:39 <dihedral> azerz 22:43:05 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: maybe the Germans, but people teaching German don't conform to the reformation 22:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause> the germans don't conform to their reformation either :p 22:43:35 <Eddi|zuHause> but at least there is a reformation 22:43:54 <Eddi|zuHause> so it'll sort itself out in like two generations 22:44:00 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B967.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:31 <Eddi|zuHause> but the english have not reformed their spelling for like 500 years, while they totally changed the pronunciation 22:45:50 <Nite_Owl> Depends on which version of English you are referring to 22:46:06 <Nite_Owl> UK or USA 22:46:44 <Eddi|zuHause> the actual differences are rather minor 22:47:26 <Nite_Owl> true but the US version is less then 500 years old 22:47:36 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:01 <Eddi|zuHause> that does not magically make its history disappear 22:48:25 <Nite_Owl> true enough 22:48:34 <petern> than ;) 22:49:58 <Nite_Owl> thank you petern - you are also correct 22:50:30 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:55:38 <dihedral> also ^^ 22:57:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15533 /3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel/sqstate.cpp: [Squirrel] -Fix (r15460): Enable typechecking again for squirrel calls to the NoAI API. 23:07:39 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:56 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 23:10:01 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@062016205204.customer.alfanett.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:12 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:21:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15534 /trunk/src/ (roadveh_cmd.cpp table/water_land.h water_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: Rename some variables. 23:21:38 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:04 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:23:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdf9f.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:16 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:21 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-124.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:33:52 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:57 *** Unaimed [~moo@ua-83-227-175-8.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:58 <Rubidium> petern: can you explain string.cpp:108's IsValidChar(c - SCC_SPRITE_START, CS_ALPHANUMERAL) (introduced in r5215, utf8 branch)? 23:43:31 *** KingJ [~KingJ@nl1.game.kingj.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:45:47 *** Rogue-Wisema [Nic@115.131.0.49] has joined #openttd 23:45:55 <Rogue-Wisema> hey guys, can i get some help 23:46:18 *** bleepy [bleepy@5adad4b3.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:42 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad45686.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 23:48:08 <dihedral> Rogue-Wisema, totally depends 23:48:10 <Elukka> maybe, depends :P 23:48:13 <Elukka> beat me to it 23:48:24 <Rogue-Wisema> lol 23:49:17 <Yexo> Rogue-Wisema: as long as you don't state your problem or ask your question, you can't get help :p 23:49:25 <Rogue-Wisema> ok well basically i have been a fan of TTDLX since back in the day and only just found openTTD 23:49:56 <Elukka> that's not a problem nor a question :D 23:50:00 <Rogue-Wisema> I would like to get the 32x32 bricks working on open ttd but i cant quite follow all the instructions and forum stuff.. how do i set it up using the downloads 23:50:08 <Rogue-Wisema> lol, that was my intro :P 23:50:14 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@62.199.17.33] has joined #openttd 23:50:25 <Elukka> 32what? 23:50:28 <Yexo> 32x32 bricks? Are you talking about extra zoom levels? 23:50:29 <Elukka> 32 bpp graphics? 23:51:07 *** KingJ [~KingJ@nl1.game.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 23:51:08 <Rogue-Wisema> yeah thats the ones 23:51:13 *** LUADuck [~luaduck@79-72-213-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:51:24 <Yexo> which of the two? Just 32 bpp graphics or also exrra zoom levels? 23:51:30 *** LUADuck [~luaduck@79-72-243-108.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 23:51:47 <Elukka> i actually have no idea about 32 bpp 23:51:55 <Rogue-Wisema> i dont know the difference 23:52:05 <Elukka> i havent downloaded any because they look horribly out of place in an environment with mostly 8 bpp graphics 23:52:46 <Yexo> Rogue-Wisema: 32bpp graphics have been supported for a long time in openttd, they are nothing more than an other way to improve graphics (by allowing artists to use more colors) 23:53:07 <Yexo> extra-zoom levels is probably what you have seen: larger graphciss (an extra zoom-in level) 23:54:13 <Rogue-Wisema> well any improvement would be nice 23:55:11 <Rogue-Wisema> how do i setup the extra zoom ones then 23:56:22 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:10 <glx> you need to apply the patch and compile (unless there's a build available on the forum) 23:57:29 <Rogue-Wisema> ahh shit 23:58:35 <Rogue-Wisema> ok the one in version 0.7 what is that one 23:58:42 <Rogue-Wisema> the downloadable content? 23:59:12 <dihedral> ? 23:59:14 <dihedral> wow 23:59:31 <dihedral> what do are the forum titles you were reading?