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Log for #openttd on 14th March 2009:
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00:26:11  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r15706 /trunk/src/ (fios.cpp stdafx.h): -Fix: Make sure the filename passed to unlink() is always in file system encoding.
00:26:16  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r15707 /trunk/src/ini.cpp: -Fix (r15686): The config file was not updated on Windows because rename() can't replace existing files.
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00:41:20  <[s]> hello :)
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00:44:00  <MrFrans> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42348&start=0
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01:32:17  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15708 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Feature [FS#2728]: Pop up the AI Debug Window if one of the AIs crashed and show a message that the user should report the crash.
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02:00:25  <Yexo> Some screenshots from a new (scripted) map generator: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/mapgen/
02:01:04  <FauxFaux> screenshot_1 is your girlfriend?
02:04:59  <Yexo> ....
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02:06:42  <energetic> nice
02:06:57  <energetic> we want harder maps
02:08:00  <Yexo> like 7?
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02:09:20  <energetic> 7 is a good start ;)
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02:11:46  <Yexo> good night
02:12:27  <MrFrans> good nigth
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05:01:00  <hackalittlebit> having problems compiling new nightly
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07:50:04  <OsteHovel^EEE> Rubidium: im here
07:54:18  <OsteHovel^EEE> it takes about 14 minuts to download 500 mb :P its so LONG....
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07:55:11  <OsteHovel^EEE> (Me is currently downloading Vmware Workstation from Vmware to test out some functions in windows95 that can be used in openttd)
07:56:26  <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: you are lucky, something that big takes me 3 hours or so
07:56:50  <OsteHovel^EEE> I peak at 610 kb/s
07:57:17  <OsteHovel^EEE> At school i peak at 11000 kb/s
07:57:20  <Alberth> but they never last long enough :)
07:58:06  <OsteHovel^EEE> True
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07:59:51  <OsteHovel^EEE> Hi Zuu :D
08:00:07  <Zuu> Hi OsteHovel^EEE :)
08:00:48  <Zuu> Got to work on my assignment for monday, but though I could keep an eye on your work :D
08:06:07  <OsteHovel^EEE> the download is now sooon finished just 50 secounds...
08:06:34  <OsteHovel^EEE> I think i will use more time installing Vmware workstation than it takes to install windows 95 inside vmware :P
08:06:59  <OsteHovel^EEE> Do windows 95 take any use of 2 CPU's?
08:08:47  <Zuu> No idea
08:08:57  <Zuu> I don't even have dual core these days.
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08:12:44  <OsteHovel^EEE> Hi welshdragon!
08:12:55  <welshdragon> good morning!
08:15:30  <OsteHovel^EEE> LOOOL
08:15:40  <OsteHovel^EEE> My pc just freezed...
08:15:47  <OsteHovel^EEE> when i logged on to windows
08:16:21  <welshdragon> hee
08:16:21  <welshdragon> he
08:16:34  <petern> froze
08:16:49  <OsteHovel^EEE> Im so happy i use Linux on all the other pc's becouse thats what i hate about windows...
08:16:49  * welshdragon looks at the very bottom of the homepage of tt-forums.net
08:17:15  <OsteHovel^EEE> Happy Birthday welshdragon
08:17:27  <welshdragon> :D
08:17:47  <OsteHovel^EEE> You are 22?
08:18:06  <welshdragon> indeed
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08:23:26  <OsteHovel^EEE> PXE / Network Boot is genius :P
08:27:31  <OsteHovel^EEE> "The installation of Windows 95 will take from 30 minutes to 1 hour"
08:27:32  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
08:28:32  <Zuu> Now let see how much vmware fools the installer :)
08:30:51  <OsteHovel^EEE> It finished in 3 minutes and 30 scounds
08:32:28  <Zuu> Nice, then it was far quicker than installing WinXP on vmware for me. But then Win95 is probably much smaller installation too.
08:32:54  <OsteHovel^EEE> Windows 95 uses 95 mb when its installed
08:35:32  <OsteHovel^EEE> Now im installing Windows 98
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08:38:42  <OsteHovel^EEE> Good morning pavel1269
08:38:43  <pavel1269> hi
08:38:51  <pavel1269> hello OsteHovel^EEE :-)
08:41:48  <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: any progress on that win bug?
08:43:12  <OsteHovel^EEE> pavel1269: Rubidium fixed it
08:43:13  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
08:43:33  <Rubidium> huh?
08:43:38  <pavel1269> nice .... he was just shitting about win and .... ola :-)
08:43:56  <pavel1269> not that he was lieing, but still, everyone know that :D
08:44:02  <OsteHovel^EEE> i think i read that in the SVN log...
08:44:28  <OsteHovel^EEE> r15707 | michi_cc | 2009-03-14 01:26:03 +0100 (Sat, 14 Mar 2009) | 1 line
08:44:28  <OsteHovel^EEE> Changed paths:
08:44:28  <OsteHovel^EEE>    M /trunk/src/ini.cpp
08:44:28  <OsteHovel^EEE> -Fix (r15686): The config file was not updated on Windows because rename() can't replace existing files.
08:44:33  <OsteHovel^EEE> it was michi_cc
08:45:06  <pavel1269> ye, looked at it now :-P
08:46:10  <pavel1269> this is best thing i love on openttd, you found bug, which is really .... bad .... and second day, it might be fixed :-)
08:46:28  <pavel1269> openttd devs are doing great work ;)
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08:57:51  <Zuu> regarding r15707, is shellapi.h included on WIN64 already? shellapi.h is only included for WIN32, but not WIN64. http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset?new=15707%40%2F&old=15706%40%2F
08:59:39  <pavel1269> this one is funny for me :-)
08:59:41  <pavel1269> #else
08:59:41  <pavel1269> 307	331	  rename(file_new, filename);
08:59:42  <pavel1269> #else
08:59:42  <pavel1269> 307	331	  rename(file_new, filename);
08:59:51  <pavel1269> omg sry for duplicate
09:01:25  <OsteHovel^EEE> Hot food in the morning is so GOOD...
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09:01:34  <OsteHovel^EEE> Are food in the morning called Breakfast?
09:01:53  <Zuu> Depends if you are English or not I guess :)
09:04:41  <Cybertinus> hi
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09:05:14  <Alberth> good morning Cybertinus
09:05:18  <Cybertinus> OsteHovel^EEE: yeah, the food you eat in the morning is called Breakfast
09:06:00  <petern> Zuu: i think WIN32 is defined whatever windows is in use
09:06:21  <petern> or ... who knows
09:06:48  <OsteHovel^EEE>  ;P
09:06:49  <Zuu> Ok, so why add || WIN64 at one spot, but not all?
09:07:01  <petern> i don't know, hence "or ... who knows"
09:07:06  <Zuu> :)
09:07:41  <OsteHovel^EEE> Zuu: maybe they forgot to add || WIN64 this time
09:10:18  <OsteHovel^EEE> I FUCKED up my installation of mingw on my compile server
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09:26:40  <pavel1269> :-)
09:27:15  <OsteHovel^EEE> :-)
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09:33:05  <pavel1269> bad error occured :-(
09:33:58  <pavel1269> http://paste.openttd.org/180385
09:34:11  <OsteHovel^EEE> MoveFileEX do NOT work on Windows 98
09:34:12  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
09:34:24  <OsteHovel^EEE> Rubidium:   MoveFileEX do NOT work on Windows 98
09:34:34  <pavel1269> he knew that haha
09:34:48  <OsteHovel^EEE> hehe
09:34:56  <OsteHovel^EEE> I just needed to try it
09:35:04  <pavel1269> <Rubidium> hmm... MoveFileEx: Requires Windows NT 3.1 or later; Win9x/ME: Not supported
09:35:38  <OsteHovel^EEE> Do openttd run on win9x?
09:35:51  <petern> (does)
09:35:54  <petern> not any more :D
09:36:02  <Sacro> fuck em
09:36:04  <Sacro> and the os/2 lot
09:36:09  <Sacro> and osx 10.3
09:36:12  <Sacro> and erm
09:36:12  <petern> win95 is... nearly 15 years old
09:36:17  <Sacro> petern: almost legal
09:36:22  <petern> nobody should be use....
09:36:22  <OsteHovel^EEE> :p
09:36:23  <petern> sacro
09:36:27  <pavel1269> any idea with my error? :-/
09:36:37  <petern> win95's been fucking you far longer already
09:36:46  <Sacro> true dat
09:36:53  <Sacro> i went 95 - 2k - xp
09:37:49  <OsteHovel^EEE> i went: DOS -> Windows 3.1 -> Windows 3.11 -> Windows 95 -> Windows 98 -> Windows NT 4.0 -> Windows 2k -> Windows XP (and im stuck at XP)
09:38:12  <pavel1269> same hehe .... but i skipped NT 4.0 :-)
09:38:45  <OsteHovel^EEE> I will never forget the Bluescreen
09:38:51  <OsteHovel^EEE> i forgot: -> Linux
09:39:28  <pavel1269> BSOD .-P
09:39:33  <pavel1269> sounds like a game haha
09:39:37  <taisteluorava> windows 7 will be pretty nice. you can even disable IE8
09:39:45  <pavel1269> :-)
09:39:58  <OsteHovel^EEE> :)
09:39:59  <pavel1269> it looks like, they will finaly do sth what is working :-)
09:40:11  <pavel1269> on way it has to :-)
09:40:46  <Sacro> taisteluorava: list
09:40:48  <Sacro> *lise
09:40:49  <Sacro> er
09:40:50  <Sacro> lies
09:40:52  <Sacro> stupid mornings
09:40:59  <taisteluorava> no :)
09:41:00  <Sacro> mornings = fail
09:41:17  <taisteluorava> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-7-internet-explorer,7187.html
09:41:20  <taisteluorava> check it out ^^
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09:44:04  <pavel1269> cargodest .... http://paste.openttd.org/180386 give this error against current trunk
09:44:10  <Rubidium> Microsoft and "something that is working"? Well...maybe their scams
09:44:29  <pavel1269> MSVS is one, the only one, what is working atm :-)
09:45:49  <Rubidium> gheheh... boost using unlink as parameter/function name?
09:46:42  <pavel1269> static void unlink(node_type* x)
09:46:45  <pavel1269> :-)
09:46:58  <pavel1269> so func name win
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10:04:09  <OsteHovel^EEE> Have someone change Squerrrel latly?
10:04:22  <SmatZ> what?
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10:05:38  <OsteHovel^EEE> welshdragon: are you here?
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10:11:57  <OsteHovel^EEE> hmm
10:12:02  <OsteHovel^EEE> i got a error
10:15:20  <OsteHovel^EEE> http://ostsoft.net/~ostehovel/files/openttd/new_log.txt
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10:22:56  <OsteHovel^EEE> Can someone check out my error:  http://ostsoft.net/~ostehovel/files/openttd/new_log.txt (Im using Mingw at Linnux)
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10:25:40  <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: http://rafb.net/p/gtGXkq86.html
10:27:27  <Alberth> euhm, my version may be incorrect
10:27:48  <OsteHovel^EEE> "    43		scsprintf(_ss(v)->GetScratchPad(100), _SC("unexpected type %s"), IdType2Name(type));
10:27:48  <OsteHovel^EEE> "
10:27:56  <OsteHovel^EEE> that was wat i got
10:29:12  <Alberth> sorry, it is correct, I am confused with svn vs hg :(
10:29:40  <Alberth> I don't see a swprintf there
10:31:13  <OsteHovel^EEE> strange
10:32:40  <Alberth> Last change at that line was in r15578 when squirrel got added to trunk
10:34:02  <Alberth> ah, got it: ./squirrel/include/squirrel.h:#define scsprintf swprintf
10:35:38  <OsteHovel^EEE> SQInteger sq_aux_invalidtype(HSQUIRRELVM v,SQObjectType type)
10:35:38  <OsteHovel^EEE> {
10:35:38  <OsteHovel^EEE> 	scsprintf(_ss(v)->GetScratchPad(100), _SC("unexpected type %s"), IdType2Name(type));
10:35:38  <OsteHovel^EEE> 	return sq_throwerror(v, _ss(v)->GetScratchPad(-1));
10:35:38  <OsteHovel^EEE> }
10:35:48  <OsteHovel^EEE> ok
10:36:03  <Alberth> seems to depend on SQUNICODE setting
10:36:25  <OsteHovel^EEE> But it worked yesterday... :P
10:36:46  <Alberth> then yesterday you didn't have unicode? :P
10:37:22  <OsteHovel^EEE> no idea
10:38:06  <OsteHovel^EEE> cant remeber install unicode
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10:39:50  <OsteHovel^EEE> if i just used: --disable-unicode ... i think i "fixed" it :;p
10:40:03  <OsteHovel^EEE> hmm
10:40:09  <OsteHovel^EEE> new error
10:40:38  <Alberth> 'man wsprintf' works here, so I may have the function in the C library
10:41:30  <Alberth> what would be the fun if the tools simply worked :P
10:42:51  <OsteHovel^EEE> New log: http://ostsoft.net/~ostehovel/files/openttd/log2.txt
10:44:05  <SmatZ> your gcc is broken
10:44:21  <OsteHovel^EEE> :p
10:44:21  <OsteHovel^EEE> ok
10:44:27  * OsteHovel^EEE need to build it again
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10:53:21  <OsteHovel^EEE> i think i know why it all fails
10:53:26  <OsteHovel^EEE> *failed
10:53:36  <pavel1269> :-)
10:53:36  <OsteHovel^EEE> becouse i rember i install libsdl & allegro
10:53:40  <pavel1269> as u said
10:53:47  <OsteHovel^EEE> right before i turned off my pc
10:53:50  <pavel1269> <OsteHovel^EEE> I FUCKED up my installation of mingw on my compile server
10:53:54  <pavel1269> :-) so true
10:54:14  <OsteHovel^EEE> so it finds the libsdl & allegro in /usr/lib | /usr/include and then it includes files from that direcotry
10:54:18  <OsteHovel^EEE> things that i SHOUDENT do
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10:54:53  <OsteHovel^EEE> with flags: --with-sdl=0 and --with-allegro=0 it "worked"
10:54:54  <Alberth> "shouldn't", but I tend to agree
10:54:57  <OsteHovel^EEE> i got a new error
10:55:43  <OsteHovel^EEE> the "./configure" shoud have had a --prefix=/usr/i586-mingw32 so it JUST searching for lib's/include's in that directory and its subdirectories
10:56:21  <Alberth> no, prefix is the destination prefix afaik
10:56:52  <OsteHovel^EEE> --prefix-dir is prefix for destination
10:56:53  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
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11:01:35  <Alberth> --prefix-dir is only used with OpenTTD it seems, ./configure manual of Gnu doesn't know that option
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11:03:42  <OsteHovel^EEE> if i use --disable-unicode it all fucks up too..
11:03:51  <Alberth> and OpenTTD doesn't know --prefix
11:04:34  <OsteHovel^EEE> i know thats why it shoud be implented
11:05:42  <Alberth> simply never install the program, and you never have to specify a --prefix-whatever :P
11:06:24  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
11:06:25  <pavel1269> :-)
11:08:20  <OsteHovel^EEE> check out this error;.
11:08:21  <OsteHovel^EEE> --disable-unicode
11:08:23  <OsteHovel^EEE> *ops
11:08:29  <OsteHovel^EEE> In file included from /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/win32.cpp:17:
11:08:29  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: 'int _wunlink' redeclared as different kind of symbol
11:08:29  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/wchar.h:366: error: previous declaration of 'int _wunlink(const wchar_t*)'
11:08:29  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: expected primary-expression before 'const'
11:09:30  <pavel1269> lol at patch :-)
11:09:34  <pavel1269> *path
11:13:30  <OsteHovel^EEE> hehe
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11:38:34  <OsteHovel^EEE> I found the error
11:39:44  <OsteHovel^EEE> Line :254 "#define unlink(file) _tunlink(OTTD2FS(file))" in stdafx.h
11:39:44  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
11:40:02  <OsteHovel^EEE> was changed in revision 15706 :P
11:41:21  <SmatZ> r15709: -Remove: support for OS Windows
11:42:14  <petern> :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
11:42:32  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
11:43:02  <Rubidium> sounds like your cross compile environments misses some important pieces of headers
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11:44:21  <OsteHovel^EEE> but it works if i do remove that line in stdafx.h(line 254)
11:45:08  <OsteHovel^EEE> maybe..
11:46:44  <Rubidium> OsteHovel^EEE: for what it's worth, look at the diff of r15706 and be amazed that it now breaks for you when it didn't before
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11:48:19  <OsteHovel^EEE> (http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/15706 , they just moved OTTD2FS( from fios.cpp to stdafx.h)
11:49:36  <OsteHovel^EEE> strange that it fails
11:53:14  <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: haha, i just renamed unlink() :-)
11:53:27  <pavel1269> only in 3 places
11:55:00  <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: try this http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=39161&p=772908#p772908 ... that unlink fix :-)
11:57:29  <pavel1269> wait_oneway_signal should have default value 255
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12:06:37  <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: did it help?
12:08:00  <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/stupid_mingw.diff <- might have more chance of working
12:08:08  <OsteHovel^EEE> Hmm
12:09:08  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
12:09:24  <OsteHovel^EEE> it just to remove this line: "#define unlink(file) _tunlink(OTTD2FS(file))"
12:09:54  <OsteHovel^EEE> in stdafx.h
12:10:25  <Rubidium> that does only break it again
12:12:02  <OsteHovel^EEE> ok
12:14:09  <OsteHovel^EEE> i will test your patch Rubidium
12:14:48  <OsteHovel^EEE> testing it now..
12:14:49  <OsteHovel^EEE> compiling,...
12:15:29  <OsteHovel^EEE> if i use your patch i get this
12:15:52  <OsteHovel^EEE> In file included from /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/win32.cpp:17:
12:15:52  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: 'int _wunlink' redeclared as different kind of symbol
12:15:52  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/wchar.h:366: error: previous declaration of 'int _wunlink(const wchar_t*)'
12:15:52  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: expected primary-expression before 'const'
12:15:57  <OsteHovel^EEE> and thats with unicode enabled
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12:16:22  <OsteHovel^EEE> now building with unicode dissabled
12:16:25  <OsteHovel^EEE> *disabled
12:17:10  <OsteHovel^EEE> It suceeded
12:19:46  <Rubidium> try removing io.h from win32.cpp
12:21:06  <OsteHovel^EEE> ok
12:21:39  <OsteHovel^EEE> With or without unicode support?
12:21:45  <Rubidium> both
12:22:05  <OsteHovel^EEE> ok
12:22:10  <OsteHovel^EEE> a clean build?
12:22:13  <OsteHovel^EEE> *ops
12:22:24  <OsteHovel^EEE> forget my 2 previus lines
12:23:16  <OsteHovel^EEE> with unicode first:
12:23:37  <OsteHovel^EEE> (without "#include <io.h>" in win32.cpp)
12:24:03  <OsteHovel^EEE> In file included from /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/fcntl.h:20,
12:24:03  <OsteHovel^EEE>                  from /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/win32.cpp:18:
12:24:03  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: 'int _wunlink' redeclared as different kind of symbol
12:24:03  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/wchar.h:366: error: previous declaration of 'int _wunlink(const wchar_t*)'
12:24:05  <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: expected primary-expression before 'const'
12:24:18  <Rubidium> then I've got no clue
12:24:30  <OsteHovel^EEE> building with unicode (without "#include <io.h>" in win32.cpp):
12:24:51  <Rubidium> and someone has to read the headers and figure out what kind of crappy mess they are in
12:25:13  <OsteHovel^EEE> it works
12:25:36  <OsteHovel^EEE> the build works with DISABLE UNICODE and without "#include <io.h>" in win32.cpp
12:26:06  <pavel1269> :-)
12:26:21  <Alberth> it seems io.h gets pulled in again via fcntl.h
12:26:47  <OsteHovel^EEE> so unicode is fucked up on my build system
12:27:36  <Rubidium> no, mingw has made a ginourmous mess of their headers
12:27:47  <OsteHovel^EEE> true
12:28:02  <OsteHovel^EEE> is it posible to use some headers that is with msvc with gcc?
12:29:02  <Alberth> normally header files belong to a specific library, so just copying them will just make a bigger mess when trying to link
12:29:16  <pavel1269> :-)
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12:29:33  <OsteHovel^EEE> ok
12:29:33  <OsteHovel^EEE> :p
12:30:06  <OsteHovel^EEE> MSVS SUCKS... becouse i will never be able to compile as fast i do with GCC+DistCC
12:30:46  <petern> uh huh
12:30:59  <petern> never mind that it might be slower because it's optimizing it better...?
12:31:22  <OsteHovel^EEE> (I use linux pc's  + windows pc's to make a cluster to compile on)
12:32:09  <pavel1269> thanks peter :-P
12:32:19  <OsteHovel^EEE> But MSVS have a nice IDE :p
12:32:35  <pavel1269> MSVS have everythink better than GCC :-P
12:32:42  <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: using multiple machines to increase compile speed is cheating
12:32:48  <OsteHovel^EEE> :P
12:32:49  <pavel1269> :-D
12:33:07  <OsteHovel^EEE> Alberth: the only Reason i can compile openttd on 45 secounds is becouse i use alot of pc's
12:33:34  <pavel1269> ye, MSVS is slow .... one build from scratch is like 5mins :O
12:33:44  <pavel1269> but result is always nice :-)
12:33:53  <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: 45 seconds? Thats slow, you don't have enough computer systems obviously :D
12:34:03  <OsteHovel^EEE> but MSVS HAS MUCH better Optimizations than GCC/MINGW
12:34:15  <OsteHovel^EEE> its a cluster of SUCKING OLD pc's :P
12:34:28  <pavel1269> Reason: Assertion failed at ..\src\settings_gui.cpp:714: this->d.entry.setting != NULL
12:34:28  <pavel1269> Language: czech.lng
12:34:38  <pavel1269> that assertation means, string empty?
12:34:48  <planetmaker> jo
12:34:54  <Alberth> non-existing patch option name I think
12:34:55  <pavel1269> other words ... lng broken :-/
12:35:25  <Rubidium> pavel1269: the lng is just fine
12:35:39  <planetmaker> pavel1269: if there's no such string, it needs to be in english.txt
12:35:44  <planetmaker> but it isn't there, either.
12:35:47  <planetmaker> --> broken patch
12:35:48  <Alberth> s/patch option/advanced setting/
12:35:54  <Rubidium> the assertion fails because you try to add a non-existing setting to the settings window
12:36:00  <pavel1269> okay
12:36:59  <pavel1269> strange is .... all patches on their own ... work, together its broken, and in places where it hadnt conficts ... :/
12:38:08  <Alberth> pavel1269: the joys of modified meaning of values in variables
12:38:10  <Rubidium> lovely tools automatically 'resolving' conflicts in the wrong way
12:38:26  <pavel1269> Rubidium: it not automatic ... i do it manualy
12:38:54  <Rubidium> pavel1269: patch (and friends) all resolve conflicts to some degree
12:39:30  <pavel1269> hmm .... thats bad :-O
12:41:22  <Alberth> They are right most of the time. However, you cannot trust them blindly, and you need to check after wards
12:41:47  <pavel1269> what check?
12:42:04  <Alberth> whether they modified the right part of the code.
12:42:40  <Alberth> (in the good way) :)
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12:43:13  <Wolf01> hello
12:43:16  <pavel1269> hi
12:43:19  <Alberth> hello Wolf01
12:43:29  <pavel1269> Alberth: sometimes its nearly impossible
12:43:56  <Alberth> pavel1269: I never said it was easy
12:45:43  <Alberth> In general, you need to understand how the program works, and how each patch modifies that behavior. Then you should be able to understand where problems may arise.
12:47:41  <pavel1269> if this error means, some string is missing .... i sohuld only check if all strings defined?
12:48:23  <Alberth> it is the name of a advanced settings that does not exist
12:48:25  <Rubidium> this error means: setting not defined even though you want it to be shown in the settings gui
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12:51:12  <Alberth> in the same d.entry is also the name that is attempted. With a debugger you should be able to get that value at the time of the crash. Then you'll have the precise name of the non-existing setting.
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12:51:58  <pavel1269> with debugger, you mean, i should debug it manually with MSVS? :O
12:53:36  <Alberth> alternatively, you can invent an artificial intelligent being that does the debugging for you
12:53:44  <OsteHovel^EEE> hehe
12:54:02  <OsteHovel^EEE> pavel1269: can you upload the patched openttd source and i can try to debug it...
12:54:02  <KingJ> heh, just come across my original transport tycoon delux box
12:54:08  <pavel1269> no other way, like openttd.exe -d ? :-)
12:54:27  <pavel1269> thats it ...
12:55:15  <OsteHovel^EEE> Can i PM you pavel1269?
12:55:26  <pavel1269> this client dont support sending files :-(
12:55:37  <pavel1269> ur nick on tt forums?
12:55:39  <planetmaker> use tt-forums
12:55:57  <OsteHovel^EEE> (or just upload directly to me: ftp.ostsoft.net/incomming
12:57:22  <pavel1269> failed?
12:57:40  <pavel1269> ahh here we goo :-)
12:57:42  <pavel1269> all.patch
12:58:08  <OsteHovel^EEE&