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01:27:09  <voss> Anyone awake?
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03:05:38  <Belugas> yee yes yes... we know the game is not like real life... http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=29683&start=240
03:05:46  <Belugas> lovely from you to tell us so...
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03:14:35  <Belugas> it's loooooooooong
03:15:55  <Belugas> infact... i'll sleep now and check the result tomorrow
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08:20:21  <TrueBrain> morning
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08:48:27  <planetmaker> morning
08:48:52  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, I checked WT3 with Safari briefly and found everything like I would have expected.
08:50:06  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: good! Tnx :)
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09:01:07  <planetmaker> he... the "last changed strings" is noticably slower than the other categories.
09:01:25  <TrueBrain> yup
09:01:30  <TrueBrain> don't use it too much ;)
09:01:37  <TrueBrain> (it is a hell to calculate next/prev
09:01:39  <petern> indexes!
09:01:46  <petern> also, sensible database
09:01:49  <petern> like, say, postgresql
09:02:04  <TrueBrain> I think I need to extend my ignore list :p
09:02:26  <TrueBrain> either way, everything is indexes for lineair listing, not time-based listing .. so it is slower :)
09:03:01  <petern> linux > windows, lighttpd > apache, postgresql > mysql, perl > php!
09:03:31  <TrueBrain> perl over php? Haha :) You _are_ insane :p
09:04:11  <dihedral> oh my
09:04:15  <petern> well
09:04:21  <petern> for scripts, maybe not web :)
09:04:36  <TrueBrain> for scripts, I agree, but to use php for scripts is like the worst idea :)
09:04:39  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: even the factorial of php ;)
09:04:49  <petern> asp.net > php
09:05:01  <TrueBrain> WHAT? It is getting insaner by the minute :)
09:05:05  <TrueBrain> ASP with its: on error resume next;
09:05:07  <TrueBrain> no tnx :)
09:05:10  <petern> asp.net
09:05:12  <petern> not asp
09:05:17  <TrueBrain> still ;)
09:05:18  <dihedral> ^^
09:05:23  * dihedral hates asp
09:05:26  <petern> asp.net
09:05:27  <petern> not asp
09:05:40  <TrueBrain> mostly because it is created/sold by MicroSoft :)
09:05:49  <petern> ms don't sell mono :D
09:06:05  <TrueBrain> there is still a debate going on if mono is legal :p
09:06:30  <Rubidium> let Microsoft first show that they are capable of implementing a standard...
09:06:56  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: no, you see that wrong; microsoft doesn't have to implement a standard, they ARE the standard
09:06:56  <Rubidium> ... like their own xml-office-document formats
09:07:02  <TrueBrain> so everyone needs to do it THEIR way
09:07:13  <TrueBrain> and if the documentation doesn't agree, the documentation is wrong, not them!
09:07:30  <dihedral> hehe
09:09:51  <dihedral> someone today said, people who use java cannot consider it 'programming'... when i asked why, he said java sucks - he likes perl :-P
09:09:53  <dihedral> ^^
09:11:10  <SpComb> petern: except lighttpd is stagnating
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09:11:45  <TrueBrain> cherokee is already trying to fill in the place of lighttpd :)
09:12:00  <SHADOW-XIII> dont tell me about java
09:12:22  <SHADOW-XIII> jave to write db app on website with tomcat for tomorrow from scratch ...
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09:14:30  <petern> SpComb, "stagnating" means it does what most people want
09:14:45  <petern> so they feel no need to change thing
09:14:46  <petern> +s
09:14:49  <TrueBrain> petern: far from it :(
09:14:53  <petern> then people decide it's dead
09:15:01  <petern> and therefore must write a new system from scratcxh
09:15:05  <SpComb> indeed
09:15:11  * SpComb starts right away
09:15:23  <TrueBrain> lighttpd development is stalled because the main developer start working on other things
09:15:36  <TrueBrain> while there is a bug-log which is longer than OpenTTD's .....
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09:17:33  <Rexxars> well, if he isn't getting paid to keep working on it, and doesn't think it's fun anymore, why should he keep working on it?
09:17:44  <TrueBrain> Rexxars: nobody said he should :)
09:17:49  <Rexxars> true :)
09:17:51  <SpComb> lighttpd has plenty of users
09:17:51  <TrueBrain> it is just said development stalls because of it :)
09:19:13  <TrueBrain> slowly there starts to be a bit of development ....
09:19:16  <TrueBrain> very slowly :p
09:20:57  <petern> http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/activity?show_changesets=1&with_subprojects=1&with_subprojects=0
09:21:01  <petern> ^ dead?
09:21:21  <petern> hmm, not quite the link :p
09:21:33  <petern> click previous twice
09:21:49  <petern> it goes from r2430 to r2465 in a day :p
09:22:03  <TrueBrain> as I said, slowly there starts to be a bit of development ;)
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09:30:48  <SHADOW-XIII> hilarious ... judge in piratebay case is normally lobbing for authoring rights ...
09:31:09  <SHADOW-XIII> case will go down asap, rofl
09:32:20  <petern> well
09:32:21  <petern> maybe
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09:44:22  <SpComb> from a cynical viewpoint, I could well see it not being invalidated
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10:16:01  * Rubidium just wonders when google/microsoft will be sued
10:16:54  <Rubidium> (or apple) as they provide the tools to acquire the tools to download illegal content and provide the tools to search for illegal content
10:19:10  <Gekz> haha
10:19:22  <Gekz> Rubidium: kickbacks
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10:48:09  <Rakin> my openttd's ai always crsh
10:48:25  <Rakin> n	my openttd's ai always clash
10:49:03  <Yexo> now what's the problem? That they crash, that they clash, or both?
10:49:45  <Rakin> both
10:50:20  <Yexo> you can report the crashes http://www.tt-forums.net/viewforum.php?f=65 and hope the AI authors fix them
10:50:30  <Yexo> about clashing, the best you can do is usnig as many different AIs as possible
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10:51:43  <TrueBrain> well, you are very welcome :s
10:51:46  <TrueBrain> rude ..
10:52:12  <Yexo> after my first reaction he started a pm "my openttd's ai always crash", "plz help"
10:52:45  <planetmaker> meh...
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10:53:31  <planetmaker> no persistance, no effort... :S
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11:08:01  <RakinX> where can i get openttd 0.6.3
11:08:41  <RakinX> plz help
11:09:57  <Rubidium> openttd.org/download-stable/0.6.3 ?
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11:10:28  <TrueBrain> I wonder how many times he will be coming back
11:10:51  * SHADOW-XIII hates tomcat & jsp
11:11:09  <TrueBrain> # Fuck you, Fuck you very much
11:11:12  <Rubidium> SHADOW-XIII: use bobcat & jeta
11:11:14  <SHADOW-XIII> if only I could find somebody to do this instead of me for money :P
11:11:34  *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@220.247.162.34] by petern
11:11:34  <petern> never :p
11:11:44  <TrueBrain> petern: I was considernig that action too ... :p
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11:15:52  <petern> :(
11:16:04  *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*@220.247.162.34] by petern
11:16:25  <SHADOW-XIII> Rubidium : tell that to my tutor
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11:25:40  <SHADOW_XIII> bye SHADOW-XIII
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11:28:17  <SHADOW-XIII> sic, I knew I got bad connection but 30 sec lag is a bit too much !
11:30:19  <SHADOW-XIII> that's interesting ... american army lost probes with dangerous virus ...
11:30:47  <SHADOW-XIII> and that's real news .... now 100$ question: "which game was starting like that ?"
11:31:13  <TrueBrain> I doubt you will really pay me the 100$, so I refuse to answer
11:32:38  <SHADOW-XIII> for free then :)
11:36:06  <SHADOW-XIII> there's still small bug in nighties: refit window, text of cost of refitting is trimmed so early it is not visible ... anyone want to submit the bug ?
11:36:43  <TrueBrain> how lazy can you be ..
11:36:49  <TrueBrain> you can write down the bug here, but don't want to submit the bug?
11:40:46  <Yexo> it's already there: FS#2846
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11:55:35  <SHADOW-XIII> TrueBrain : I suppose bugtracker needs registration, isnt it ?
11:55:47  <glx> true
11:55:58  <TrueBrain> the fact that you ask makes you one terrible OpenTTD user ;)
11:56:22  <glx> registration is to help communication
11:56:35  <dihedral> oi
11:56:37  <reldred> Wait, what, SHADOW-XIII playing OpenTTD? What the hell happened over the last few months I was away?
11:56:45  <reldred> I'm utterly fucking confused...
11:57:26  <SHADOW-XIII> well, ottd incorporated things that was lacking the most
11:57:33  <glx> like pbs?
11:57:42  <reldred> Yeah, everyone turns over to the darkside in the end.
11:57:48  <reldred> Even me
11:58:07  <reldred> No matter how much OpenTTD lacks a 'soul'
11:58:07  <reldred> :P
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12:03:18  <SHADOW-XIII> pbs, grfs and more, it still lacks a lof of things should be there, like rail vertical/horizontal up/down the hill
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12:05:26  <dihedral> ...
12:06:16  <reldred> very true, the lack of that pisses me off, but I ended up just getting used to the new rail multi-drag-drop-doodad
12:06:33  <reldred> Autoslope was the major blocker for me for a long time
12:06:50  <reldred> The lack of the programable signals annoys me as well
12:07:16  <Yexo> try a recent nighly and you can drag horizontal/vertical rails too
12:08:18  <reldred> Ooooh lovely
12:08:55  <planetmaker> oh, that was that :) I wondered whether it was only code cosmetics :)
12:13:42  <Rubidium> no, it was only 'looks' ;)
12:13:53  <pavel1269> Yexo: i thought, that this feature is there since i started to play .... like r8K or sth
12:13:57  <SHADOW-XIII> Yexo: I mean up/down the hill as well
12:14:08  <Yexo> SHADOW-XIII: I know, but reldred did not mean that
12:14:19  <SHADOW-XIII> now you can lay the rail up or down in / or \ directrions, not in | or -
12:14:39  <Yexo> pavel1269: no, only diagonal rails could be dragged. With autorail you could/can drag all directions though
12:15:10  <pavel1269> ahhh this .... I use only autorail so ... shortcup "a" ftw :-P
12:15:43  <SHADOW-XIII> and all setting/options thing is complete mess, grf settings, options, advanced settings, ai settings, transparency options
12:16:14  <Yexo> you forget the difficulty settings :p
12:16:28  <Rubidium> SHADOW-XIII: then come up with something better...
12:16:35  <planetmaker> ^^ SHADOW-XIII exactly.
12:17:10  <planetmaker> I sat over that for quite some time. But getting it grouped such that it meets the several border criteria ... very difficult
12:17:47  <SHADOW-XIII> Rubidium : finish for me that damn apache/tomcat and I might
12:18:18  <SHADOW-XIII> I even cannot make it work :/
12:18:22  <Rubidium> just eject from your tomcat and let it crash
12:18:44  <Rubidium> preferably above the apache preservation
12:18:57  <SHADOW-XIII> however I put my class it gives me The requested resource (/servlet/HelloWorldExample) is not available.
12:20:39  <Rubidium> class paths?
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12:26:01  <SHADOW-XIII> everything is ok
12:26:31  <SHADOW-XIII> in examples, however if I replace example html with my html and class with my class it says that error
12:26:57  <SHADOW-XIII> what's funny, those are just examples from my tutor that well ... should work
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12:27:18  <Rubidium> never assume that they work
12:27:51  <TrueBrain> never assume
12:27:53  <TrueBrain> gna!
12:29:54  <SHADOW-XIII> it compiles
12:29:55  <Rubidium> *especially* at higher education
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12:31:13  <XX> which version of openttd have the original ttd ai
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12:31:51  <Rubidium> 0.1.4?
12:31:58  <XX> which version of openttd have the original ttd ai
12:32:16  <Rubidium> probably none, though 0.1.1 comes closest I guess
12:32:39  <XX> what about open ttd 0.6
12:32:53  <TrueBrain> weren't you going to download 0.6.3 anyway?
12:33:09  <Rubidium> that's a very broken ai that's somewhat like TTD's ai, but far from it due to it's brokeness
12:33:33  <XX> what are what are you talking about
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12:39:25  <planetmaker> ...
12:40:06  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, can openttd's compile farm also compile external hg repositories?
12:40:31  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: yup; mostly because it doesn't have any internal hg repos :)
12:40:50  <planetmaker> background: the infrastructure sharing patch is somewhat ready for a beta2 release. And it would be cool to have versions for all OS :)
12:40:51  <TrueBrain> (the CF is in a seperate subnet (network-wise) on our dedicated, and fetches everything remotely, including SVN)
12:40:59  <planetmaker> nice
12:41:04  <TrueBrain> I dislike IS, so I don't know if I want to feed it through the CF :p
12:41:05  <TrueBrain> hehe :)
12:41:15  <planetmaker> :(
12:41:28  <TrueBrain> the CF currently only has one limition: it can only compile the 'default' branch inside a hg/git
12:41:30  <planetmaker> the principle or the implementations so far?
12:41:47  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: anyway, if you want it running through CF, you need one of the devs to sign off on that :)
12:42:04  <planetmaker> default branch is no problem, it has its separate hg repository.
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12:43:02  <planetmaker> :) I hope that's possible.
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12:45:48  <planetmaker> but I guess the latency, and that only TB (maybe Rubidium ) can trigger the compile farm, it might rather then be tomorrow for a compilation.
12:46:10  <planetmaker> hm... wrong channel :P
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12:46:15  <TrueBrain> haha :) Nasty ;)
12:47:03  <planetmaker> well :) There are a few commits to be done anyway - and that might then be too late for today :)
12:47:50  <TrueBrain> oh, and for the record: I can't compile custom projects between 1800 and 2100 CEST :)
12:49:06  <Yexo> why not? I thought the nigtly got priority automatically?
12:49:08  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, exactly that's why I think today might be out of order :)
12:49:32  <TrueBrain> Yexo: exactly my point :)
12:49:46  <petern> problem with running other branches through the CF is then they become 'semi official'
12:49:49  <TrueBrain> means compile-time of 4 hours, if I trigger it at 1800 or so :p
12:50:05  <TrueBrain> petern: maybe .. they come in a map 'custom' ..
12:50:09  <Yexo> petern: I guess that's why TrueBrain wants a dev to sign off
12:50:16  <TrueBrain> Yexo: :)
12:50:18  <petern> yeah, and i won't ;)
12:50:52  <TrueBrain> I leave that for you guys to fight out, if you want such project run through the CF or not :)
12:51:01  <planetmaker> :( @ petern
12:51:03  <Yexo> maybe I will, but only after a decent code review, and I don't have time for that
12:51:28  <planetmaker> hm, ok
12:51:35  <planetmaker> any chance for that somewhen, Yexo ?
12:51:38  <petern> heh
12:51:47  <petern> just review and commit ;)
12:52:07  <planetmaker> :P
12:52:11  <Yexo> planetmaker: yes, but not today/tommorow
12:52:18  <planetmaker> :)
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12:52:38  <Yexo> I didn't way I'll do it, just if I find the motivation later :p
12:52:56  <planetmaker> hehe :)
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12:53:15  <planetmaker> you give a small finger, people take your whole arm ;)
12:55:34  <Pikka> planetmaker, why are you going around giving people the finger in the first place?
12:55:54  <planetmaker> :P I'm too naive and friendly.
12:55:54  <TrueBrain> bad habbits die hard
12:59:28  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, can the CF actually compile any revision from a repository or just tip?
12:59:39  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: tip
13:00:03  <planetmaker> hm... so, if there's a tag called "beta2", it needs to be tip in order for this thing to work, right?
13:00:13  <TrueBrain> with current CF, yes
13:00:23  <TrueBrain> a very simple solution is to make a second clone of the hg with the tag
13:00:29  <TrueBrain> which then becomes the tip of that clone
13:00:33  <planetmaker> true :)
13:00:43  <TrueBrain> will be fixed if and after WT3 is done :p
13:00:58  <planetmaker> thanks for the tip :)
13:04:46  <TrueBrain> in theory btw, which is something petern might like, the CF can upload to alternative locations (via sftp)
13:05:37  <planetmaker> hm... that would be nicely feasable from my point of view.
13:06:10  <planetmaker> We don't need (semi-)officially endorsed binaries, it just helps testing a lot, if all platforms are supported
13:06:38  <TrueBrain> and that is exactly what the CF is for ;)
13:07:13  <planetmaker> Well, then that's actually, from my POV, the right now preferred solution.
13:07:45  <Yexo> if that's the case I see no reason not to compile some binaries
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13:08:36  <planetmaker> yup. TrueBrain is there a public key you can give me?
13:08:46  <planetmaker> Then we can allow that key to access our servers.
13:09:14  <TrueBrain> $ this->currentJob->hold();
13:09:16  <TrueBrain> OK
13:09:50  <planetmaker> :) TrueBrain don't interrupt what you're doing now. It's not like an emergency :)
13:10:28  <planetmaker> but thank you :)
13:10:35  * planetmaker hugs TrueBrain
13:11:59  <TrueBrain> those tasks .. if I don't do it now .. I don't do it ever :p
13:13:03  <planetmaker> hehe. Common behaviour, I guess :P
13:14:13  <TrueBrain> schedule 17 define ... 17 schedules already. ... :)
13:15:14  <TrueBrain> $ this->currentJob->resume()
13:15:26  <TrueBrain> current job: waiting for Rubidium
13:15:27  <TrueBrain> nasty :p
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13:15:34  <Rubidium> lies!
13:15:37  <TrueBrain> :)
13:15:44  <TrueBrain> my validation routine gives me HINTS! :)
13:15:56  <TrueBrain> HINT: Expected 0 parameters, got 1, for command 'SETX' in string 'STR_882A_END_OF_ORDERS'
13:15:57  <TrueBrain> HINT: Expected 0 parameters, got 2, for command 'P' in string 'STR_9001_ROAD_VEHICLES'
13:15:59  <TrueBrain> :)
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13:19:45  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, you got one "T" too many in the first command :D
13:20:39  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: pervert
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13:20:56  <planetmaker> :P
13:23:30  <Belugas> hello
13:23:52  * TrueBrain waves to Belugas
13:24:25  <planetmaker> hello Belugas
13:24:29  <Belugas> splash!
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13:28:25  <Belugas> there was a new topic that really made me sick.  but i can't find it again.
13:28:38  <TrueBrain> Belugas: maybe for the best :)
13:29:12  <Belugas> well.. that kind of post has to be buried deep hard.  the game is not realistic and blablabla... and it should be done this way and that way....
13:29:17  <Belugas> but hey, I lOOOOOOvethe game
13:29:20  <Belugas> cock sucker
13:30:52  <Yexo> Belugas: the one in the gamebalance thread?
13:31:17  <Belugas> dunno... i'll check right noqw
13:32:27  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16122 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Change: add more misc information about the behaviour of commands to strgen's -export-commands.
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13:33:14  * TrueBrain hugs Rubidium
13:33:20  <TrueBrain> $ this->currentJob->print()
13:33:24  <Belugas> yeah... quarq's post
13:33:25  <TrueBrain> current job: working on WT3
13:33:27  <Belugas> thanks Yexo
13:33:59  <Belugas> incredibly boring and disconnected.  but... on the other hand, i do not feel like blasting him, since he did quite a job at explaining his ideas
13:35:58  <Gekz> wow
13:36:04  <Gekz> he must have done his explaining well then
13:36:06  <Gekz> link?
13:36:33  <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=29683&start=240 buttom post
13:37:32  <Belugas> bottom...
13:38:42  <Gekz> oh wow
13:38:44  <Gekz> long rant
13:39:47  <Gekz> oh wow
13:39:50  <Gekz> he explains it very well
13:39:52  <Gekz> using maths
13:40:15  <Belugas> it's not a rant.  that's the best part of it.
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13:40:24  <Gekz> yeah
13:40:28  <Gekz> I thuoght it was about to be a rant
13:41:18  <Gekz> Belugas: I like his loan idea
13:42:52  <Gekz> and his ownership layer idea
13:42:55  <Gekz> I've had that one before too
13:43:03  <TrueBrain> sure sure
13:43:05  <TrueBrain> :p
13:43:15  <Gekz> no, I've just never aired it
13:43:20  <Gekz> because I can get one of two responses:
13:43:22  <Gekz> 1) fuck off
13:43:24  <Gekz> 2) do it yourself
13:43:26  <Gekz> or both
13:43:39  <Gekz> the open source world doesn't like ideas.
13:44:02  <TrueBrain> a dutch saying is like this: "Never shot is always missed"
13:44:06  <Yexo> no, the open source world has too many idea or not enough coders
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13:44:16  <fjb> Hello
13:44:17  <TrueBrain> so now don't start bitching :p
13:44:19  <TrueBrain> hi fjb :)
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