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00:03:14 <Nite_Owl> about the elephant stuff - it was just me and my somewhat silly elephant jokes 00:15:25 *** Nite_Owl_ [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:25 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@76.109.51.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17:35 *** Nite_Owl_ is now known as Nite_Owl 00:26:48 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host217-42-108-64.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:31:25 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.251.107] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 00:34:25 *** Milloflex [~none@h-85-57.A175.priv.bahnhof.se] has left #openttd [] 00:34:58 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 00:35:10 <ccfreak2k> Heh, the downloads page lists the releases index page as "unknown filetype". 00:36:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-238-168.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 00:36:03 *** gpsoft [~gaal@adsl-dyn-74.95-102-1.t-com.sk] has joined #openttd 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phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:47:54 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:48:16 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 08:00:45 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 08:02:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16255 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2887] (r16237): Nested widgets of client list window used incorrect length. 08:03:28 <Alberth> planetmaker: thanks for the report 08:06:55 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 08:09:43 *** dolon [~do@cpe-74-67-66-5.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [] 08:20:31 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D621.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:20:45 <petern> what 08:21:08 <petern> i just upgraded from 16254 to 16255 and 8 files were updated... 08:25:05 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 08:26:53 <TinoDidriksen> Does svn log -v -r16255 concur? 08:31:29 <petern> well no, there's only 1 file changed in 16255 08:32:09 <TinoDidriksen> So you must have been at an earlier rev, or seriously mangled your working copy. 08:37:38 <Alberth> petern: maybe you did the previous update in a sub-directory? 08:38:47 <petern> must've done 08:38:50 <petern> lost in the scrollback now 08:39:04 <petern> mmm, key 08:39:16 <petern> /usr/include/bits/string3.h:82: warning: call to '__warn_memset_zero_len' declared with attribute warning: memset used with constant zero length parameter; this could be due to transposed parameters 08:39:20 <petern> i get that 08:39:29 <petern> unless i put a printf before the memset 08:41:03 <TinoDidriksen> What's the memset() call? 08:42:00 <petern> memset(blah, 0, pt.x * pt.y) 08:42:16 <petern> the printf is printf("%u\n", pt.x * pt.y); 08:43:08 <Alberth> try an assignment. at first sight it looks like a compiler bug 08:43:38 <Alberth> uint q = pt.x * pt.y; assert(q != 0); memset(bla, 0, q); 08:44:08 <TinoDidriksen> No way that is constant either case...and yeah, maybe upgrade compiler? 08:44:16 <petern> heh 08:44:21 <petern> without the assert it complains 08:44:36 <petern> gcc (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) 4.3.2 08:44:52 <TinoDidriksen> Well, isn't compiler then. 08:44:53 <SmatZ> petern: somewhere in bmp/png loader code? 08:45:06 <petern> no, in my own code 08:45:08 <SmatZ> ah 08:45:39 <SmatZ> some gcc4.4 pre-release was giving this (false?) warning 09:08:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:18:40 *** gpsoft [~gaal@adsl-dyn-74.95-102-1.t-com.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:34:58 *** Milloflex [~none@h-85-166.A175.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 09:53:03 <z-MaTRiX> hi 10:00:35 <Alberth> hi 10:01:06 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@5403C69A.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10:41 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm160.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:11:52 *** de_ghosty [~s@206-248-181-221.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 10:12:42 *** Beklugas 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<Chruker> at* 12:59:22 <Alberth> I did that window ages ago :) 12:59:47 <Alberth> My current goal is just to add nested widgets without any other change. 13:01:35 <Alberth> With respect to the sticky boxes, I don't know why some windows have them and why other don't. It would need some discussion what the policy of window stickyness is, exactly. 13:01:50 <Alberth> Then we can change all of them according to that policy 13:02:35 *** [alt]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:03:57 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16259 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets to the load and save dialogue windows. 13:06:48 <Alberth> (changing window sticky boxes is at this time just about the worst possible moment you can pick ;) ) 13:06:57 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07:02 <Milloflex> when you're having a singal button selected + remove railroad button selected, and you click another signal, the remove railroad buttons should be de-selected. Don't you think? 13:08:21 <frosch123> yes, that was thought quite often, also by me. but noone did 13:08:43 *** combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:08:46 <frosch123> also you would have to question whether to depress the signal button when pressing the remove button 13:10:32 <Milloflex> with "remove" you mean demolish-button? 13:10:37 *** [alt]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:40 <Alberth> FS#2314 13:10:47 <Beklugas> hello 13:10:52 <Milloflex> howdy 13:10:56 <TrueBrain> I don't like your name 13:10:57 <Alberth> hello 13:11:08 <Milloflex> whos name brian? 13:11:11 <Alberth> this mrning he changed name 13:12:18 *** Beklugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 13:12:25 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 13:12:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 13:12:33 <TrueBrain> much better :p 13:12:43 <Belugas> indeed 13:12:51 <Belugas> did not noticed 13:13:02 <frosch123> yeah, no need to show of with his "klug"-ness :) 13:13:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought something similar ;) 13:13:41 <Eddi|zuHause> but then i noticed whose name contained "brain" ;) 13:15:16 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: no need to panic, "Pinky" is the dangerous one 13:16:55 <Milloflex> Ctrl + D Toggle double-mode (window mode only) -- the hotkey do not seem to do anything? 13:17:19 <frosch123> because it got removed in 0.6, where did you find a reference to it? 13:17:39 <Milloflex> http://wiki.openttd.org/Hotkeys 13:17:50 <Milloflex> lower left column 13:18:00 <Milloflex> lower parts of the left column* 13:18:01 <Belugas> because of the way the blitters had to be reworked for 32bits 13:18:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i miss the double mode :( 13:18:22 <Milloflex> what was the double mode? 13:18:40 <Belugas> i know how to do it: 640*480, full screen 13:18:40 <Eddi|zuHause> everything gets displayed twice as big 13:18:48 <Belugas> roughly the same output 13:19:01 <Eddi|zuHause> only on 4:3 displays 13:19:21 <Milloflex> oh.. that would be good. i just asked about that the other day.. the text and stuff is to big on sertain screens 13:19:27 <frosch123> "fixed" :) 13:19:38 <Milloflex> :-) 13:19:48 <Milloflex> confirmed. 13:20:16 <frosch123> anyway, it did only work on windows and in window mode 13:20:20 <Milloflex> just noticed something funny 13:20:31 <Milloflex> Ctrl + B View the tile structure (in nightly). 13:20:38 <Milloflex> triggers for the main menu intro 13:20:40 * Belugas is at work, for a rush of bug fixes. lovely day ahead 13:20:45 <Milloflex> even though i'm not running "nightly" 13:21:06 <Belugas> fix the wiki, dear Milloflex 13:21:14 <Belugas> your contribution will be greatly appreciated 13:21:14 <frosch123> because the page is older than 0.6 :) 13:21:42 <Milloflex> yeah sure.. but should it be even be triggered in a non-nightly version? 13:22:07 <Milloflex> Belugas, bug fixes? where do you work? 13:22:15 <frosch123> the note is from the dark age, when 0.5 was stable and did not have that feature 13:22:19 <Alberth> may be useful while developing a grf no? 13:22:21 <Belugas> if it's on the 0.7 series release, yes 13:22:58 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:23:00 <Belugas> Milloflex, i'm the senior programmer of the Point Of Sales section of our software company 13:23:29 <Belugas> POS, in short, or tilt or electronic cash register or whatever you call it :D 13:23:52 <frosch123> also "fixed" 13:24:11 <Milloflex> oh i see. cool. 13:24:33 <Belugas> well.. not cool on a saturday morning, no 13:25:01 <Milloflex> yeah why DO you work on a saturday? 13:25:57 <Alberth> no doubt it must be working at monday 13:26:34 <Belugas> 'cause we've got way too many contracts to do for the too few people we have available. And since it's supposed to be a recession, all the money we can collect is good money 13:27:08 <frosch123> software is anti-cyclic 13:27:20 <Alberth> tell that to the managemenr :p 13:27:30 <Eddi|zuHause> the IT sector is supposed to be the least affected by the recession 13:27:47 *** combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:54 <Belugas> indeed 13:28:19 <frosch123> they are all supposed to buy new software to increase efficiency and to get rid of expensive workers 13:28:47 <Belugas> or make the current software better faster and more flexible 13:29:09 <Belugas> and more robust and less prone to let employees stealing money out of the drawer 13:29:13 <Belugas> or somehting alike 13:31:52 *** ohnoitsavram [~ohnoitsav@123-243-10-69.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:20 <Belugas> mmh... SirXavius has shown his face, as promised 13:33:52 <frosch123> yeah, and SHADOW has ruined the most joyful topic of the last week 13:35:14 <Belugas> mmh? 13:35:16 * Belugas checks 13:36:02 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=43525 <- the first post combined with the second is quite gold-ish 13:36:34 <Belugas> yeah :D 13:37:06 <Belugas> i loved the old-planes/vehicles-reselling suggestion :) 13:37:11 <Belugas> that was quite ... mausing 13:37:14 <Belugas> amusing 13:37:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16260 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: Add Vehicle::IncrementOrderIndex() to deduplicate some code. 13:38:37 <frosch123> hehe, you have become quite popular in those discussions :) 13:39:33 <Belugas> yeah... as soon as someone dare saying "realism", they almost beg pity for me not to slap them or even worse :D 13:39:53 <Belugas> i think i've made quite an impression.. 13:40:19 <frosch123> which releases you from the need to bash them yourself :) 13:40:35 <frosch123> s/need/burden/ 13:43:48 <Belugas> :) 13:46:21 *** [alt]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:47:21 *** [com]buster was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [[ghost]buster] 13:47:31 <Belugas> har har har 13:47:36 <frosch123> :) 13:47:51 <Westie> haha 13:49:26 *** Elvis [~Elvis@062016187031.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 13:49:31 <Elvis> anyone here? 13:49:47 <Alberth> Elvis has entered the building obviously 13:50:17 <Belugas> Ho my!!! You're alive!!12 There are so many people who are looking for ya! 13:50:18 <Alberth> but otherwise, yes, some are 13:50:28 <Elvis> is there anyonewho knows about the map creating thing from google earth to macrodems stuff? 13:50:38 <frosch123> "what?" 13:50:44 <Belugas> macrodem??? 13:51:03 <Belugas> we have such a feature? 13:51:09 * Belugas googles 13:51:22 <Elvis> yeah... thouse programs for creating openTTD maps made of the real world 13:51:39 *** combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:51:42 <frosch123> there are various topics about that on the forums 13:52:08 <frosch123> Belugas: go go go! 13:52:11 *** [alt]buster was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [sneaking another one?] 13:52:14 <Elvis> there is a huge tutorial or at least a guide on the forums wich tells you how to make thouse maps... but I cant get it tu work :( 13:52:15 <Belugas> :D 13:53:20 <Belugas> which part does not work, Elvis? 13:53:21 <Elvis> and when I was gonna try to post a question about it on the topic... I couldnt find the place to register an account in order to post! 13:53:28 <Elvis> it is getting very aggrovating 13:53:55 <frosch123> err, doesn't it show you login or register when you press the reply button? 13:54:11 <Elvis> I think I got my asc files... but I cant get any map or picture into the macrodem program :( 13:54:16 <Alberth> Elvis: it shows "register" at top-left when I log out 13:54:39 <frosch123> it also shows "register" just below the username-editbox when pressing "reply" 13:54:39 <Elvis> maybe Im blind :P (embarrased) 13:55:01 <frosch123> bbl 13:55:22 <Elvis> aha... found the register butten ;)... thanks 13:55:54 <Elvis> but anyhow... the real problem is the other one... so if anyone could help me here?... Id say thats the best :P 13:56:05 <Belugas> haaa.. it's microdem, not macrodem... 13:57:13 <Elvis> oh.. sorry 13:57:21 <Belugas> by looking at the first post, it seems the DEM part was not successful 13:57:22 <Elvis> my spelling isnt too good ;) 13:57:36 <Elvis> Im not a brit you see 13:57:44 <Belugas> neither am i 13:57:51 <Belugas> french speaker, actually 13:58:03 <Belugas> but chut... don't tell ayone... 13:58:11 <Elvis> he he... allright 13:58:56 <Elvis> well... any idea if there is anyone else who can make this "makin go the highmaps" possible? 13:59:28 <Noldo> Belugas: :) 13:59:42 *** combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:54 <Belugas> "If you click on the Green dot, you then have the option to download the DEM data for that cell. Once we have the cell(s) we need, we then need to load them into Microdem, reduce the definition of the data from really detailed to detailed enough for what we want."did that worked? 14:00:54 <Elvis> no... thats the problem... and I'm not entirly shure I got the right file from Google Earth anyway 14:01:10 <Eddi|zuHause> *** Belugas hat [com]buster aus dem Kanal geworfen ([ghost]buster). <- how long have you planned to do that? :p 14:01:28 <Belugas> ok, so it's not the microdem part that yu need fixing, it's the google part 14:01:37 <Elvis> what I want is to make a small map of a place close to Oslo (Norway)... but the maingrid thing is all over Sweden :( 14:01:41 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause: inspiration of the moment ;) 14:02:11 <Elvis> but how big is the ZIP files from Google Earth supposed to be? 14:03:07 <Belugas> no idea, never did any maps with google 14:03:08 <Elvis> what I got is 16 Mb... I feel that is too small... but I dont know how good the encryption is 14:03:32 <Belugas> the only heightmaps i've got are drawing made by my son 14:03:50 <Eddi|zuHause> :) 14:04:10 <Elvis> so what do you suggest I do? 14:04:20 <Aali> Elvis: that file references a URL, which has been dead for ages 14:04:36 <Aali> so, you're shit out of luck unless you can find another source 14:04:36 <Elvis> wich file? 14:04:48 <Aali> the one you load into google earth 14:04:55 <Elvis> okey so I can just forget the whole prosess then? 14:05:40 <Elvis> couse I got some SRMT 4.1 loaded up to the google Earth... just not the 2.0 version I see him use in the description 14:06:19 <Elvis> I mean SRTM 4.1* 14:07:21 <Aali> does it have all those green dots? 14:07:31 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:06 <Elvis> they are not dots... they are more like triangles... you know... a sqare without 1 corner? 14:08:27 <Noldo> oh how I wish I had !grab 14:08:40 <Elvis> and yes.. they are green... but as I sead... not dots or balloons as he describes it in the guide 14:08:56 <Elvis> didnt I spell it right? 14:09:21 <Aali> well, if the data you're supposed to see isn't there, then you're obviosuly missing something 14:09:28 <Aali> *obviously 14:10:34 <Elvis> well I do get a grid when I zoom out.. I then there is green triangles in each grid... with the same numbers as in the guide 14:11:13 <Elvis> so everything seems very mutch like its working... dont you think? 14:11:31 <Elvis> much* 14:12:07 <Aali> then whats the problem? 14:12:55 <Elvis> the problem is that when I try to load the files into Mircodem, it appears as a small window wich is only white in the middle 14:13:05 <Elvis> there is no map... there is no image 14:15:02 <Elvis> anyone still there? 14:16:13 *** XeryusTC is now known as prozone 14:16:23 *** prozone is now known as XeryusTC 14:18:53 <Elvis> hello? 14:19:43 <frosch123> sorry, but there was just a nuclear impact 14:19:52 <TrueBrain> we all had to run for our lifes 14:20:36 <frosch123> by desk is just under attack by millions of photons 14:21:06 <TrueBrain> and cosmic rays! 14:22:43 <Elvis> okey... thanks for your help anyway 14:23:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16261 /trunk/src/vehicle_base.h: -Fix (r16260): Replace a space with a newline and a tab. (thanks smatz) 14:23:39 <Elvis> I didnt get it right... but I posted a post in the topic and now Im getting quite boored... so Ill just hope for an answere to the post in some time 14:23:51 *** Elvis [~Elvis@062016187031.customer.alfanett.no] has left #openttd [] 14:24:12 <TrueBrain> lol 14:24:14 <TrueBrain> funny people 14:24:22 <Noldo> mm, since when that has been the coding style? 14:26:02 <frosch123> since 1492 ? 14:26:48 <Belugas> well... if ever you wrote patches, that might the very first reason you never got commited ;) 14:26:55 <Belugas> TrueBrain! 14:27:12 <TrueBrain> Belugas! 14:30:20 <Noldo> aha, it's different with ifs, that explains why my mind was playing tricks with me 14:36:53 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:43:05 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46:04 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:48:45 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:48:58 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 15:09:23 <Belugas> anyone have seen my coffee? 15:09:58 <TrueBrain> at work? 15:10:19 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:10:21 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 15:10:25 <frosch123> in your veins? 15:10:41 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:11:08 <Westie> on your keyboard? 15:11:39 <planetmaker> Belugas: I wouldn't even dare to lay eyes on YOUR coffee ;) 15:11:41 <planetmaker> *slurp* 15:11:49 <Alberth> maybe the coffee lady took it 15:11:53 <Westie> Who said he laid eyes? 15:11:57 <Belugas> under my papers :S 15:12:03 <Belugas> who said i can see? 15:12:17 <Westie> err 15:12:18 <Westie> you? 15:12:21 <Westie> how are you tyoing? 15:12:23 <Westie> *typing 15:12:45 <Westie> (obviously I must be blind due to the redicilous amount of typos) 15:12:56 <Belugas> i'm blind, using braille keyboard and listent=ing to test to speech software! 15:13:12 <Belugas> thus the typos 15:13:24 <Westie> can you listent=ing to PuTTY? :o 15:13:47 <Chruker> What does the downloadable content system do if there is a new version of ex. an AI or AI library? Is the old version just removed and then new version will show as just yet another thing to download? 15:14:16 *** Guest1392 is now known as Booth 15:14:20 <Alberth> afaik the old one is kept, you may need in in some saved game 15:14:29 <Alberth> s/in/it/ 15:14:46 <frosch123> Chruker: every file has a minimum and maximum compatible version. the newest compatible one is the one available for download 15:15:02 <frosch123> if an old savegame needs an older version it can get that one independent of newer ones 15:16:43 <frosch123> though the last line maybe only applies to newgrfs, and not ais 15:21:24 <planetmaker> he... might be an idea to have that for AIs, too :) 15:26:36 <Belugas> you mean the AI can have an interface to the download section and checks if there is a better version of himself and download self if its' the case? 15:26:38 <Belugas> mmh... 15:26:51 <Belugas> i guess i've got too much coffee already 15:27:23 <planetmaker> Belugas: mainly also the other way around: if I'm starting an old version, the appropriate version of the AI should be used, too 15:27:37 <planetmaker> but... nvm. I should test that before I make such claims :) 15:28:04 *** DR_Jekyll [DrJekyll@p57B0E64A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:28:09 <frosch123> there are functions to check compatibility of save/load for ais, so I guess someone has thought long about that stuff :) 15:28:10 <Hirundo> Why would you want the old version? for the bugs and crashes? 15:28:36 <Hirundo> ^^ AIs have their own functions for compatibility 15:29:15 <Chruker> I was mainly wondering if the green dot would dissapear when there is a new version available. 15:29:52 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@5403C69A.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 15:29:57 <z-MaTRiX> hi 15:30:00 <frosch123> if the new one is compatible, then yes 15:30:44 <frosch123> btw. if another file depends on a specific older version both will be visible 15:31:21 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:30 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.89.254] has joined #openttd 15:34:34 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 15:34:53 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0D962.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:56 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@5403C69A.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: rehashing] 15:43:12 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@index.linuxsecured.net] has joined #openttd 15:43:19 <z-MaTRiX> reloaded 15:47:23 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:50:31 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:50:45 *** Booth [~chatzilla@82-32-210-243.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 15:52:57 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:53:00 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 15:53:03 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 15:56:48 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 16:04:12 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-235-159.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 16:08:10 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-235-159.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:29:16 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@index.linuxsecured.net] has quit [Quit: rehashing] 16:30:36 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:37 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@2a01:270:dd00:7701:1337:1337:1337:1337] has joined #openttd 16:30:40 <Ammler> newgrfs pro, any idea, why that grf is disabled? http://paste.openttd.org/182730 16:33:40 <frosch123> start with "-d grf=1" 16:35:08 <frosch123> though I have no idea what you try to archive with that grf 16:35:23 <Ammler> reduce population 16:35:31 <Ammler> it works without action9 16:36:02 <Ammler> 1/4 < year 1900, 1/2 < year 1930 16:36:44 <frosch123> but you are aware that the popuilation will not change while the game is running? 16:36:56 <Ammler> hmm, no error with debug 16:37:35 <frosch123> then increase the level 16:39:02 <Ammler> shouldn't action9 change that? 16:39:18 <Ammler> 0 * 0 09 A4 04 > \d1930 0 16:39:47 *** Booth [~chatzilla@82-32-210-243.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:39:58 <frosch123> "what?" 16:40:20 <Ammler> if the year is >1930, skip the grf 16:40:41 <Ammler> if the year is >1900 skip 1/4 16:41:38 <Belugas> congratulations Ammler! 16:41:47 <Ammler> to? 16:41:55 <Belugas> this is a perfect example of a desynch :D 16:42:26 <frosch123> hehe, rb fixed that somewhen that newgrfs will be loaded with the fake date of server start :) 16:42:58 <Ammler> a hint? 16:43:27 <frosch123> Ammler: provide the grf in a more suitable format than paste :) 16:44:39 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-79-153.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:45:12 <Belugas> what if a user joins AFTER 1930, while the game started BEFORE 1930, there will be a difference in the data used by the newly joined client 16:45:14 <Belugas> POOOF 16:45:16 <Ammler> you mean the grf itself? 16:45:19 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-79-153.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:45:19 <Belugas> desynch 16:45:42 <frosch123> Belugas: that has been fixed :) 16:45:55 <Ammler> oh, so my idea doesn't work 16:45:55 <Belugas> it has? how nasty 16:46:08 <Ammler> the grf will only be runned once on loading? 16:46:21 <frosch123> exactly 16:46:46 <Ammler> but what is A4 for then? 16:46:59 <Ammler> A4 D Current year; long format, year zero based since r13376 in OpenTTD 16:47:00 <TrueBrain> to write stuff on 16:47:07 <TrueBrain> I love A4 pages 16:47:13 <frosch123> Ammler: those variables are shared with action2 16:47:45 <frosch123> use callback 2E instead 16:48:55 <Ammler> I was too easy :-) 16:49:02 <Ammler> it* 16:50:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.184.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:50 <frosch123> http://paste.openttd.org/182731 <- that is preventing the desync :) 16:56:45 <SmatZ> @openttd commit 14769 16:56:45 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Commit by rubidium :: r14769 trunk/src/newgrf.cpp (2008-12-29 20:36:12 UTC) 16:56:46 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: -Change: when loading games in "network" mode use the start date of the save game for the server and all clients when loading the NewGRFs instead of the current date. Prevents desyncs caused by action 7/9s skipping parts of the GRF based on the date or some other variables that can differ at NewGRF load time. 16:57:26 <frosch123> quite new actually :) 16:57:30 <Ammler> young 16:57:42 <SmatZ> ahhh it's that what frosch123 pointed out :-p 16:58:07 <frosch123> so Ammler: enjoy desyncs in 0.6 :) 16:58:24 <Ammler> well, I won't use it that way anyway 16:58:31 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 16:58:41 <Ammler> I want to change the population during game 16:58:46 <Ammler> (with new houses) 16:58:55 <frosch123> callback 2e :) 16:59:08 <Ammler> how do I get the current value? 17:00:38 <frosch123> is described on the wiki: it is computed using a random value and the population on the tile. as you cannot read the population, you have to create some id->population table yourself 17:00:52 <Belugas> ? 17:01:00 <Belugas> w do not provide world population? 17:01:26 <frosch123> that was not asked for :) 17:02:48 <frosch123> I do not know a variable that just returns a static property, newgrfs are generally assumed to know what they do :p 17:03:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.184.152] has joined #openttd 17:03:55 <Belugas> true 17:04:47 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.97] has joined #openttd 17:04:52 * Belugas wonders how easy it would be to provide such a var... 17:04:56 <Belugas> let see 17:04:57 <Ammler> yeah, I might do it like I wanted first. 17:05:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-68-15.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:05:24 <Ammler> instead of replacing the houses, creating new houses and change the properities 17:06:00 <Ammler> this was just a nice easy copy&paste nfo :-) 17:06:33 <frosch123> doing it with callback 2e would be a nice #define gcc -E nfo :p 17:07:35 <Ammler> I have no clue about callbacks, that looks far away. 17:08:24 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.97] has quit [] 17:08:50 <Ammler> that was my sourcefile: http://paste.openttd.org/182732 17:11:38 * Belugas guesses the proper way would be indeed a Variational Action 2 Variables for Houses 17:11:42 <Belugas> therefor, callback 17:11:58 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 17:12:57 <Belugas> haaaa... food delivery guy 17:13:00 <Belugas> see you in a few 17:14:53 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm160.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16:40 <Ammler> hmm, documenation would explain the callback quite well, maybe I try... 17:17:41 <frosch123> I am just trying something :p 17:19:30 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-235-159.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 17:19:56 *** davis` [~iloveme@p5B28CDF9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:31 <Belugas> mmh... 17:33:49 <Belugas> there are "only" 43 unique house population number 17:36:59 <Belugas> http://paste.openttd.org/182734 17:37:07 <Belugas> if ever it might be interesting 17:37:43 <frosch123> what's that? 17:38:49 <SmatZ> population of different houses in TTD 17:41:06 <SmatZ> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Houses#Population_0B_and_Mail_generation_multiplier_0C_ this :) 17:41:19 <frosch123> yeah, just using them :) 17:41:38 <frosch123> but the row of numbers did not suggested tht 17:43:31 <Belugas> it was a summarization 17:43:34 <Belugas> removeing the duplicates 17:43:59 <Belugas> i had the strange idea to regroup the houses using the same initial number 17:44:13 <Belugas> therefor, changes would be easier to apply 17:45:27 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:54:33 *** Booth [~chatzilla@82-32-210-243.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:56:06 *** barry [~tools@217.199.103.29] has joined #openttd 17:56:18 <barry> sup guys 17:56:54 <barry> can you help me out a bit? I have problems with ai 17:57:17 <frosch123> depends on your problem :) 17:57:22 <barry> It doesnt seem to do anythin, thou I have dled ai scripts 17:57:33 <Eddi|zuHause> my 8ball says ask again later 17:57:44 <barry> I thing its couse it dont heve enough money 17:58:07 <barry> Is there any way to give money to ai? 17:58:45 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you can switch to the ai company with the company cheat, and then use the money cheat 17:59:38 <barry> lol, I dont use cheats, so what r they? 17:59:42 <barry> console/ 17:59:48 <barry> console? 18:00:30 <Eddi|zuHause> check the wiki 18:02:31 <barry> hmm, there is list of what cheat commands can do, but no actual commands 18:02:58 <planetmaker> quite not true 18:03:10 <planetmaker> press ctrl+alt+c 18:03:36 <barry> lol, sry 18:03:41 <barry> got it now, tnx ;) 18:03:56 <planetmaker> np 18:06:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.205] has joined #openttd 18:07:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [The Truth is Out there] 18:07:47 <Sacro> wtf is with the kicking? 18:08:20 <Belugas> i help the poor dudes who have conncetivity problems by removing the ghosts they left behind 18:08:32 <SpComb> /msg nickserv help ghost 18:08:52 <barry> well ai istn still working 18:09:06 <barry> debug just shows that there aint no veachles it can buy 18:11:17 <petern> mmm, double negatives 18:12:49 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:13:10 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 18:13:39 *** Zr40_ [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 18:13:48 <Westie> petern: Double negatives ftw! You can tell people who live in 'teh ghetto' 18:13:58 <Westie> and try not to be no cool 18:15:12 <barry> does ai build industries list itself? 18:16:54 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D3D6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:10 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051084067.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:17:39 <frosch123> oops, haha :o 18:18:07 <frosch123> Ammler: forget it, you have to also provide graphics for the houses if you want to use callbacks 18:18:45 <Ammler> :-) 18:18:55 <Ammler> then I try my first thought. 18:19:05 <Westie> I wonder if there is a realism openTTD server 18:19:10 *** [alt]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:19:17 <Westie> where the whole economy is in dire straits 18:19:22 <Westie> that would be cool 18:19:36 <Westie> can't buy a bus because all the trains are wrecked 18:20:31 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:48 <Belugas> Mark Knofler would be against itr 18:21:14 <Belugas> oups... 18:21:15 <Belugas> no 18:21:22 <Belugas> David Knopfler 18:21:25 <Belugas> eayh.. beter 18:21:52 *** [com]buster was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [I'm killing a ghost, ok?] 18:23:21 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db00629.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: brb] 18:24:27 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051084067.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:27 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:25:14 <el_en> ?hello 18:26:34 <Rubidium> Ghostbusters! ;) 18:27:30 <z-MaTRiX> ye 18:27:41 <z-MaTRiX> i'm afraid of no ghost 18:29:20 <Yexo> barry: check the values of "Advanced settings->Competitiors->Computer players->Disable * for computer" 18:29:29 *** batti5_ [~batti5@92.85.223.127] has joined #openttd 18:31:59 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 18:34:13 *** [alt]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35:47 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.89.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:42:44 <Westie> win timeout 18:49:45 *** Milloflex [ABC123@h-85-166.A175.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 18:50:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.198.121] has joined #openttd 18:51:17 <Belugas> I'VE GOT A PIN!!!!! 18:51:22 <Belugas> MY PINPAD IS ALIVE!!!! 18:54:46 <Chruker> Is there a ingame command to delete all signs? 18:56:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:00 <Belugas> not as far as i can see 18:58:00 <TrueBrain> sounds like a horrible feature :) 18:58:16 <Yexo> it can be usefull when debugging AIs 18:58:26 <TrueBrain> AIs and their signs ... 18:58:35 <Belugas> are we talking about signals or signs here? 18:58:40 <Chruker> signs 18:59:01 <Yexo> deleting all signals would only lead to crashes 18:59:25 <Belugas> ok. i was a bit afraid it was actually signal removal been asked for... 18:59:32 <Chruker> TrueBrain, if you have something else that display nicely in which tile the AI failed, I'll take it. 18:59:54 <TrueBrain> only build signs when something failed! 19:00:32 <TrueBrain> make AIs remove their signs once in a while 19:00:41 <Chruker> Indeed when used in production they are horrible, however during development. 19:01:04 <TrueBrain> anyway, lalala, movie time :) 19:04:14 *** FHS [~FHS@126-149-63-194.dynip.ebmnet.ch] has joined #openttd 19:04:30 *** FHS [~FHS@126-149-63-194.dynip.ebmnet.ch] has quit [] 19:04:58 *** barry [~tools@217.199.103.29] has quit [] 19:05:31 <Ammler> I still need to define 0A, also if i use 21 (long format), else the houses from 1930 are available before too. Right? 19:06:33 <frosch123> the 1930 magic decribed on the wiki does not apply to ottd 19:06:37 <frosch123> ottd does a different hack 19:06:49 <Ammler> which is? 19:07:08 <Ammler> I have set the 1930 with 21 to 1930 but they are still avaialble 19:07:12 <Ammler> at 1900 19:07:24 <frosch123> it sets the appearance date of the most early available houses to the startyear, if it is earlier 19:07:56 <frosch123> did you also disable the overridden houses? 19:08:05 <Ammler> I have some houses avaialbe at year 0, so all houses from 1930 are avaiable then too? 19:08:19 <Ammler> also if I used 21 to 1930? 19:08:59 <Ammler> I do that first set 8 to FF for all 19:09:51 <Ammler> then I set 21 to the same as 0A in the table. 19:11:01 <Ammler> frosch123: nvm, I made a fault 19:11:05 <Ammler> works now. 19:11:10 <frosch123> fine :) 19:11:17 <Ammler> sorry :-$ 19:11:17 <frosch123> you just started to confuse me :p 19:13:02 <batti5_> View the new Romania in OpenTTD Project web site http://romaniainopenttd.synthasite.com/ 19:14:47 <Ammler> frosch123: that is the same with all "objects" not just houses 19:15:08 <Ammler> i.e. bridges, my oldbridge hack isn't needed for trunk. 19:15:29 <Ammler> but newbridge still needs it. 19:15:56 <frosch123> "what?" 19:16:56 <Ammler> if you use the grf newbridges, you don't have bridges before 1930 19:18:09 *** Booth [~chatzilla@82-32-210-243.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:18:36 <Ammler> is it possible to substitute a "newhouse" from TTRS or NACity or such? 19:18:53 <frosch123> ah, maybe the bridge thingie is a bug 19:19:15 <frosch123> [21:19] <Ammler> is it possible to substitute a "newhouse" from TTRS or NACity or such? <- no 19:19:36 <Ammler> I liked to ask for removing my oldbridge.grf from bananas 19:20:07 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D3D6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:20:19 <Chruker> Insanity check: If I have a tile that returns SLOPE_NW (1+8 = 9) what value should GetComplementSlope return? 19:20:22 <Ammler> but it seems, it is still needed ;-) 19:20:30 <frosch123> SLOPE_SE 19:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause> the bits should be inverted, so 1001 becomes 0110 19:21:42 <Chruker> thank you so why am I getting values like 521, 522, 523 19:22:07 <Eddi|zuHause> because you invert 8 bits instead of 4? 19:22:27 <TrueBrain> clearly it also flags bit 9 19:22:40 <Eddi|zuHause> right 19:22:55 <TrueBrain> or bit 10 19:22:56 <TrueBrain> what is it? :p 19:22:58 <TrueBrain> can't think ... 19:23:12 <Eddi|zuHause> bit 8 i would think ;) 19:23:14 <frosch123> slopes are only 8 bit 19:23:20 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: value 512? :) 19:23:21 <Eddi|zuHause> counting from 0 19:23:33 <TrueBrain> cheating! :p 19:24:00 <Chruker> Those 521, 522, 523 values are for tile which all have SLOPE_NW (9) 19:24:07 <Chruker> tiles* 19:24:21 <Eddi|zuHause> but i obviously can't think today ;) 19:24:44 <Yexo> Chruker: can you show (some of) your code? 19:24:54 <Yexo> use paste.openttd.org as pastebin if you need one 19:29:42 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051117147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:30:18 <Chruker> Here: http://paste.openttd.org/182737 19:30:24 <Chruker> And the screenshot: http://junk.chruker.dk/files/temp/slope_complement.png 19:30:38 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:31:20 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 19:32:17 <frosch123> try AITile.GetComplementSlope(AITile.GetSlope(Tile))); :) 19:32:54 <Chruker> lol, bloody hell 19:33:22 <frosch123> however, the validation check should maybe get hardened a bit 19:33:26 <Yexo> hmm, GetCompelentSlope should return -1 for invalid slopes 19:33:33 <Yexo> ^^= what frosch123 said :) 19:33:39 <frosch123> if (slope == SLOPE_INVALID) return SLOPE_INVALID; <- depends on "invalid" :p 19:34:27 <batti5_> } 19:34:41 <batti5_> :" 19:34:45 <TrueBrain> isn't there an IsValidSlope? 19:34:49 *** batti5_ [~batti5@92.85.223.127] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 19:34:55 <Yexo> if ((slope & ~SLOPE_ELEVATED) != 0) return SLOPE_INVALID; <- frosch123: would that work? 19:35:00 <Yexo> TrueBrain: no, and there is no need for it either 19:35:10 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I agree, but we have IsValid for everything :p 19:35:11 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051084067.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:11 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 19:35:13 *** batti5_ [~batti5@92.85.223.127] has joined #openttd 19:35:23 <Yexo> TrueBrain: for a lot of things, but not everything 19:35:35 <TrueBrain> Yexo: you should notice when I am joking by now :p 19:35:39 <Yexo> we don't have an IsValidVehicleType either (for VT_ROAD, VT_RAIL, etc.) 19:35:51 <Yexo> joke meter was failing here :) 19:36:04 <frosch123> SLOPE_ELEVATED | SLOPE_STEEP | SLOPE_HALFTILE_MASK is the maximum 19:36:17 <frosch123> those halftile stuff is not used anywhere in the api 19:36:19 <Yexo> yes, but SLOPE_STEEP and SLOPE_HALFTILE are not allowed for it 19:36:31 <Yexo> that's already in the precondition, and won't work properly anyway 19:36:54 <frosch123> but all slope functions use the '== SLOPE_INVALID' test :) 19:37:07 <Yexo> then all slope functions need to be fixed :) 19:37:32 <frosch123> by adding a IsValidSlope :) 19:37:41 <TrueBrain> oh please ...... :( 19:37:42 <TrueBrain> :p 19:38:25 <frosch123> I suggest TB for the task 19:38:33 <TrueBrain> hehe :) How many months do you have? 19:38:53 <frosch123> for what? 19:39:03 <TrueBrain> for the task to complete :p 19:39:17 <frosch123> have you ever seen me using the api? 19:39:39 <TrueBrain> haha, you ever seen me using it? :) :) :) 19:39:41 <TrueBrain> hihi 19:40:01 <frosch123> you wrote wright, didn't you? :p 19:40:11 <TrueBrain> hmm .. DOH! 19:40:19 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/ai_slopes.diff 19:40:22 <TrueBrain> forgot about thatone :p 19:40:31 <Yexo> any problems with that? 19:40:43 <TrueBrain> yes; it looks ugly! :) 19:40:57 <TrueBrain> (don't mind me, bored out of my mind here) 19:42:13 <frosch123> looks fine 19:43:00 <frosch123> s/SLOPE_HALFTILE/SLOPE_HALFTILE_MASK/ though 19:44:16 <Yexo> ok 19:45:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16262 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_tile.cpp: -Fix [NoAI]: Check slopes passed to the API better for validity 19:45:31 <TrueBrain> 6262 :) 19:48:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16263 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Change: Interpret setting bridge property 08 to 0 as always available. 19:48:38 <TrueBrain> no more nice number :( 19:48:51 <frosch123> 1-6-2-6-3 is a fine 'hot'-line number 19:49:08 <TrueBrain> do I want to know how you know? :) 19:49:36 <frosch123> though I do not know whether the '6'-association works in dutch 19:49:51 <TrueBrain> I doubt it :p 19:50:45 <Eddi|zuHause> well, only 4 revisions to go till the next prime number 19:51:09 <frosch123> http://es-de-we.net/v4/wp-content/sta-tt-6.jpg <- that one 19:51:31 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: lol :) 19:52:02 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you can clearly tell that the person is compensating something :p 19:52:30 <Eddi|zuHause> only problem is that it's not an Audi TT :p 19:54:42 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 19:54:52 *** SpBot [~spbot@spbot.qmsk.net] has joined #openttd 19:55:14 <TrueBrain> changing hosts ... nice :p 19:56:30 <frosch123> yeah, the 'fixme' one was broken 19:57:33 <SpComb> I managed to upgrade to 2.6.26, so I can now using policy routing! 19:57:36 <z-MaTRiX> hi 19:57:37 <z-MaTRiX> ;> 19:58:04 * frosch123 feeds the birds 19:58:06 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@2a01:270:dd00:7701:1337:1337:1337:1337] has quit [Quit: rehashing] 19:58:06 <SpComb> and it logically follows that using kernel 2.6.26 lets you use nicer hostnames 19:58:30 <TrueBrain> what has a kernel to do with hostnames, I wonder ... 19:58:40 <TrueBrain> next to absolutely nothing :p 19:58:41 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@index.linuxsecured.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:15 <z-MaTRiX> why did server drop my host? 19:59:22 <SpComb> because your address was too silly 19:59:23 <TrueBrain> we bugged it 19:59:36 <z-MaTRiX> :P 19:59:45 <TrueBrain> SpComb: btw, your ident is now failing :( 19:59:55 <SpComb> oidentd apparently doesn't support IPv6 20:00:10 <z-MaTRiX> i see 20:00:20 <TrueBrain> needs a change in inetd I believe ... 20:00:28 <SpComb> inetd or identd? 20:00:53 <TrueBrain> I was trying to remember how I fixed that here .. I believe oidentd ran via xinetd 20:00:58 <TrueBrain> and I needed to add it there as ipv6 :p 20:02:05 <z-MaTRiX> [215922] SpComb because your address was too silly 20:02:24 <z-MaTRiX> what's silly in this? (~matrix@index.linuxsecured.net) 20:02:34 <TrueBrain> the x! 20:03:12 <SpComb> z-MaTRiX: ebfore it was ~matrix@2a01:270:dd00:7701:1337:1337:1337:1337 20:03:34 <z-MaTRiX> when i connected it was host 20:03:46 <z-MaTRiX> then it became ipv6... 20:08:20 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:11:07 <Eddi|zuHause> wasn't 1337 a ban reason? :p 20:11:20 <TrueBrain> ghehe, I should remember that .. :) 20:12:05 <z-MaTRiX> wasn't banned 20:12:34 <z-MaTRiX> lost @index.linuxsecured.net, got address instead 20:12:43 <z-MaTRiX> ;/ 20:12:49 <batti5_> Atention: the Romania in OpenTTD Project launches, Romanian in OpenTTD RSS Feed. 20:13:50 <z-MaTRiX> or was domain reverse down for some time, and server querying frequently? 20:14:49 <Eddi|zuHause> wah... my ignore mask wasn't wide enough... 20:14:56 <TrueBrain> poor Eddi|zuHause 20:14:59 <petern> Attention: There are three Ts in attention. 20:15:21 <TrueBrain> his attempt to speak french ;) 20:15:47 <Eddi|zuHause> attention also has three ts in french ;) 20:15:53 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: no shit?! :) 20:16:04 <TrueBrain> too easy ..... 20:16:04 <Eddi|zuHause> no. shit. 20:16:48 <Eddi|zuHause> should be better now... 20:17:12 <Belugas> running home bye 20:17:19 <TrueBrain> Belugas: you can also use a car 20:17:21 <TrueBrain> but good luck :) 20:17:34 * petern warms his organ up 20:17:49 <TrueBrain> too much detail 20:29:18 <frosch123> batti5_: can all those empty romtain wiki pages get deleted, or do you want to add content again? 20:29:20 *** batti5_ is now known as batti5 20:30:09 <batti5> yes thay can be deleted 20:30:24 * TrueBrain sees frosch123 hitting DELETE DELETE DELETE now :p 20:32:14 <SpComb> /mode +b *!*@*1337* 20:33:13 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:33:15 <Eddi|zuHause> # The phone rings, it's early, it's seven o'clock 20:33:16 <Eddi|zuHause> # He says: 'Sorry, I woke you, but i just had to talk' 20:33:18 <Eddi|zuHause> # 'You know, last night, remember when I tried to choke you?' 20:33:19 <Eddi|zuHause> # 'I didn't mean it, i was drunk, it was only a joke' 20:33:29 <TrueBrain> euh .. okay ... 20:33:32 <TrueBrain> tnx for sharing Eddi|zuHause :p 20:33:40 <Eddi|zuHause> ;) 20:33:53 <blathijs> r/win 21 20:33:57 <blathijs> bugger 20:34:03 <TrueBrain> blathijs: nice try :p 20:34:47 <Eddi|zuHause> ENoFtpServer 20:34:59 <TrueBrain> errors are in full capitals :p 20:35:00 <z-MaTRiX> SpBot, do you still see that in my host ? 20:35:20 <Eddi|zuHause> not in Belugas' Delphi-World ;) 20:35:37 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: that world sucks :p 20:35:38 *** batti5 is now known as batti5_ 20:35:39 <z-MaTRiX> SpComb, do you still see that in my host ? 20:35:56 <Eddi|zuHause> although that should be case-insensitive ;) 20:36:01 <SpComb> not a literal IPv6 address, no 20:36:17 <z-MaTRiX> ok. 20:36:32 <Eddi|zuHause> [Whois] z-MaTRiX verwendet den Host 2a01:270:dd00:7701:1337:1337:1337:1337. 20:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause> and bans should also work on ip-addresses 20:37:15 <Eddi|zuHause> no matter what the host name is 20:37:20 <z-MaTRiX> cool 20:37:23 <TrueBrain> true fact 20:39:24 *** batti5_ [~batti5@92.85.223.127] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:36 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.85.223.127] has joined #openttd 20:40:18 <Eddi|zuHause> # You should know that by now 20:40:20 <Eddi|zuHause> # When the chequered flag comes down 20:40:21 <Eddi|zuHause> # noone, noone, noone has 20:40:22 <Eddi|zuHause> # won the race 20:40:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know why i love that song so much... 20:40:38 <TrueBrain> me neither :) 20:40:49 <TrueBrain> I do now I stink when I fart 20:41:07 *** batti5 is now known as batti5_ 20:41:10 <Eddi|zuHause> then you should not enter danish elevators :p 20:41:52 <TrueBrain> will remember that :) 20:42:29 <Eddi|zuHause> (they say 'i fart', meaning 'in motion') 20:42:50 <TrueBrain> now = know btw 20:42:53 <TrueBrain> silly me 20:43:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, my TrueSpellchecker did catch that one ;) 20:43:41 <TrueBrain> patent it 20:43:44 <TrueBrain> could makes lots of money 20:44:12 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not easy to get a patent on implementations... 20:45:09 <TrueBrain> then sell it 20:47:25 <TrueBrain> How I Met Your Mother is a briliant serie :) 20:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it is ;) 20:48:10 <TrueBrain> season 2 to season 3 is nice :) 20:48:20 <Eddi|zuHause> we're at 3x12 over here... they broadcast 3 seasons in a row, with the first one starting with a huge delay 20:48:30 <TrueBrain> "It is Legend ... wait for it" -- end season, new season starts with "dary!" 20:48:41 *** batti5_ [~batti5@92.85.223.127] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 20:48:43 <Eddi|zuHause> oh yes :p 20:48:48 <TrueBrain> briliant!! 20:49:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm wondering if they continue with season 4 immediately 21:01:12 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has quit [Quit: edgepro: Sanity is a full time job.] 21:03:58 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has joined #openttd 21:06:36 <Chruker> So who becomes their mother? 21:07:43 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:56 <Chruker> I wonder if I should add some insanity features to my AI. Like randomly spending its money on planting trees, leveling land, terraforming etc. 21:24:35 <el_en> Absolutely. 21:25:27 <el_en> A schizophrenic AI. 21:26:21 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, randomly load other AIs who happen to be installed ;) 21:29:50 <el_en> Or how about a manic-depressive one... 21:31:18 <el_en> Half a year of very fast construction, then two years of idling. 21:36:15 *** [1]KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.125.47] has joined #openttd 21:36:15 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest1436 21:36:15 *** [1]KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20 21:37:43 <Aali> AIs are already manic-depressive enough 21:37:54 <Aali> the "depression" is spent pathfinding though 21:39:58 *** Guest1436 [~KenjiE20@92.22.125.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:40:58 *** torahteen [~Jordan@12-175-226-221.dsl-cust.gwtc.net] has joined #openttd 21:42:12 <torahteen> Hey guys... got a Q... I have the UK roadset grf, but have an error on it: Another readset is active (and thus conflicting) 21:42:48 <torahteen> Any idea what it could be? I don't have any other GRFs active that have road vehicles, so what's a readset? 21:43:50 <planetmaker> torahteen: can you post an image of your grf list? 21:47:05 <torahteen> will try 21:49:14 <torahteen> http://www.file-pasta.com/file/Unnamed,%201949-01-01.png 21:50:17 <fjb> TTRS 21:50:24 <torahteen> Seriously? 21:50:33 <torahteen> I can't have TTRS and UKRS? 21:51:00 <torahteen> Oh, 'cause of roads? 21:51:00 <planetmaker> you cannot have ttrs and the roads 21:51:01 <fjb> Yes, it includes roads. 21:51:04 <torahteen> Aaaah 21:51:10 <torahteen> was just thinkin' vehicles 21:51:36 <planetmaker> your bridges conflict with eachother, too 21:51:52 <torahteen> any way around that? aside from taking out TTRS? 21:52:18 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, TTRS has parameters to disable the roads 21:52:19 <planetmaker> removing the road set? 21:52:19 <torahteen> can I disable roads and bridges with some params in TRS? 21:52:30 <torahteen> Any idea which params? 21:52:31 <planetmaker> possibly yes 21:52:33 <torahteen> Or look it up? 21:52:36 <planetmaker> the readme knows 21:52:42 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a readme for a reason 21:53:07 <torahteen> lol, if I had the readme... think I used online content downloader 21:53:11 <torahteen> I'll find it though 21:53:25 <planetmaker> torahteen: even then you have it. the tar is an archive 21:53:36 <torahteen> found it, nm 21:53:37 <planetmaker> at least I guess it's in there 21:54:53 <torahteen> Fixed, thanks :) 21:55:11 <Eddi|zuHause> see, wasn't so difficult after all ;) 21:58:32 <torahteen> yeah... just needed to know which set was conflicting, had no clue lol 22:02:52 *** combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 22:04:57 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:31 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, and we happily gave you that information ;) 22:09:59 <torahteen> Okay lol, never run into this problem before 22:10:56 <torahteen> I have a coal mine and a steel mill so close that when my coal train drops coal off a tthe mill, it picks up coal from the mine... now it won't drop that coal 'cause the other station doesn't accept coal... how to make it so only one of the stations supplies coal? :\ 22:11:06 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:37 <Eddi|zuHause> use "undload" and "no loading" orders 22:14:49 *** GT [~GT@rt-scb-9f41.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:22:13 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5D621.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:24:44 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-16-69.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:25:25 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-16-69.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:29:38 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D621.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:47 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B64F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:40 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 22:41:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3aab.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:50 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-147-189-106.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:49:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.125.47] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 23:00:23 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B64F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:17 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 23:07:55 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B64F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:12:05 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051117147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:17:20 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-235-159.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:22:40 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:30 *** GT [~GT@rt-scb-9f41.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 23:30:37 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 23:32:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76B9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B768FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:32 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B64F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:40 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 23:43:09 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B64F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:47:22 <torahteen> how to make two stations into the same station when they're seperated? I've seen others do it 23:47:35 <Westie> Using CTRL+Click 23:47:46 <Westie> You'll then get a dialogue come up 23:47:48 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 23:47:52 <Westie> with a list of possible outcomes 23:49:02 <Yexo> you'll have to do that at the time you build the station, once you have two seperate stations there is no way to combine them into 1 23:49:13 <Yexo> you can do that only be removing one and rebuidling it 23:49:36 <torahteen> Thank you westie 23:49:45 <torahteen> And yeah, that's what I figured Yexo 23:51:03 <Westie> Good night folks 23:57:00 <Chruker> Does the AIAbstractList.KeepTop(1) function (http://noai.openttd.org/api/classAIAbstractList.html#508e995b463329e6148d879b950ab608) keep the item with the highest value, or just the first item in the list? 23:59:08 <Eddi|zuHause> why would an abstract list check the values? 23:59:41 <Eddi|zuHause> if it doesn't know the items (because they are abstract), how would it know that it could sort them?