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[~frank@p5485AFBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:56:13 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:56:44 <Luukland> Can someone maybe give me an answer: Can coders be able to activate particular vehicles from a set? 11:57:35 <Luukland> Or does the packet that the server receives from a client contain too vage information? 12:01:58 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.237.229] has joined #openttd 12:02:36 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.144.151] has joined #openttd 12:07:06 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 12:09:19 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has joined #openttd 12:17:14 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@23.152.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23:06 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9D1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:34:30 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:37:36 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:44:56 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEA3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:42 <dihedral> Luukland, the server has the state and distributes and schedules doCommands 12:47:59 <dihedral> the state includes which grf for example is to be loaded 12:48:23 <dihedral> however, it cannot en/disable a specific vehicle in the grf (at least not on the client side) 12:48:43 <Luukland> if packet client buy vehicle 12:48:51 <Luukland> (Dunno the exact name) 12:49:16 <Luukland> the server can ignore it, once it containes specific build information 12:49:24 <Luukland> or can execute it 12:49:48 <Luukland> but thats why I need to know if specific vehicle ID gets broadcasted 12:52:09 <dihedral> what are you trying to do? 12:53:12 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEda32.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 12:53:27 <Rubidium> cause bug reports like "I'm trying to build train X and it doesn't work in multiplayer, but it does work in singleplayer" 12:54:57 <Luukland> dihedral I am not announcing such things here, cos some people like Rubidium can't handle it very well 12:55:03 <Luukland> may I query you? 12:55:38 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE85c3.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:52 <dihedral> Luukland, if you want to muck around with the code, and don't feel like Rubidium may here it, take it to /dev/null and don't report bugs 12:56:11 <Rubidium> it's more that I can't fix bug reports that I can't reproduce / are caused by custom modification I don't have the code of 12:56:32 <dihedral> people who then report bugs are annoying! 12:57:08 <Luukland> dihedral I am not going to much with the code :P 12:57:21 <Luukland> I have other team members who can do that way better then me 12:58:02 <Goulp> actually vehicles are a(de)ctivated with the game date 12:58:14 <dihedral> then ask them to come here and talk, because you yourself are asking questions which you should not be relaying for your 'team members' if you dont understand what is going on 12:58:25 <Luukland> ok I will get one 12:58:31 * Luukland gets a team member :p 12:58:38 <Goulp> he is asking if there is another way of (de)activating vehicles 12:59:04 <dihedral> how good that he knows crap of what is going on behind the scenes ^^ 12:59:19 <Luukland> Goulp = Team member :) 13:00:20 *** thepalm [~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]] 13:00:22 <Goulp> as said : vehicle are activated with the game date, is there another way from server side to do it ? 13:00:30 <dihedral> nope 13:01:23 <dihedral> you make a custom server and then just have poor Luukland report them as bugs 13:01:32 <dihedral> and then he does not understand when Rubidium turns them down 13:01:39 <dihedral> and then both of them are annoyed 13:01:41 <Goulp> hehe 13:02:00 <Goulp> does it made such bugs reports ? (need to check) 13:02:03 <dihedral> and then you say devs are crap, because you hear back from Luukland what bad, naughty Rubidium did to his report 13:02:07 <blathijs> Goulp: You've still not answered the actual question. What are you trying to do and why? 13:02:43 <Luukland> dihedral, there seems to be a misunderstanding here, I have never uploaded any bug reports? 13:02:43 <dihedral> blathijs, disable vehicle id's from being build by using another method (server side) other than game date 13:02:57 <dihedral> Luukland, but others would 13:03:03 <dihedral> people who play on your server perhaps.... 13:03:05 <Goulp> we would like to (de)activate vehicle with another parameter than game date and this from server side 13:03:12 <Luukland> would, or have? 13:03:14 <dihedral> oh - sorry - i forgot to ask: do you have people who play on your server? 13:03:21 <Luukland> :) Plenty 13:03:40 <dihedral> Goulp, disable the feature in question, i.e. max_ships = 0 13:03:46 <Luukland> You speak like as if you are getting bug reports from us :S 13:03:47 <dihedral> uh - no ships can be built 13:03:53 <Goulp> no, particular vehicle from the set 13:04:00 <Rubidium> newgrf 13:04:16 <dihedral> Luukland, you = you yourself, one of your members, or anybody enountering an issue after playing on your modified server 13:04:37 <Luukland> yes, but you said: they would; but they dont now? 13:05:37 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:85a7:cfb7:de8e:ef5a] has joined #openttd 13:05:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:05:38 <Goulp> there is no bugs on luukland server, only some feature can be disabled, but in this case player has a message 13:05:53 * Luukland agrees 13:06:25 <Luukland> can you give me a link to an uploaded bug dihedral on which you are referring to? 13:06:43 <Luukland> Where Luukland's costum server is in? 13:07:14 <Rubidium> you mean that when you reject a command (without kicking the client for misbehaviour) you can show a custom error message at the user side without the network command to show such a message? 13:07:28 <dihedral> Goulp, EVERY server has a bug 13:08:08 <dihedral> Rubidium, i've missed such a feature for ages ... i mean, custom error / kik / ban messages ^^ 13:08:09 <Goulp> dijedral, yeah i know. it's not perfect 13:12:07 <Rubidium> Luukland: people not having reported bugs doesn't mean there aren't bugs and it doesn't mean that no bugs will be reported in the future 13:13:00 <Luukland> Of course, but I feel offended when someone says: [14:01] <dihedral> you make a custom server and then just have poor Luukland report them as bugs 13:13:08 <Luukland> when there are no bugs 13:13:12 <Luukland> (yet) 13:13:36 <dihedral> then feel offended 13:13:41 <dihedral> i dont give a <beep> 13:14:59 <Goulp> Rubidium: That's it. When a feature is locked, there is chat message sent to the client who enque the command 13:15:36 <Goulp> like terraform disabled, then a clear message is sent : terraforming is disable for this game 13:15:37 <Rubidium> and how are you going to handle e.g. autoreplace 13:16:46 <Rubidium> never had those people that like consistency complain that you should just disable the terraforming buttons if it's not allowed? 13:17:46 <Goulp> autoreplace could be hanlded if vehicle are disabled from server and notified to clients 13:19:03 <Goulp> if the terraform button can be disabled from server without patching client, it could be good, yes 13:20:06 <Rubidium> but why do you want to disable vehicles? 13:20:26 <Luukland> The question that makes all other questions unneeded and useless 13:20:53 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-38-212.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:20:55 <Goulp> because we would like to reduce some basic features at the begining 13:20:57 <Rubidium> and why can't you use NewGRF for that? Makes it more consistent on the client side and means less modifications on the server's side 13:21:21 <Goulp> yeap, if it can be done with newgrf, then we will think about ot 13:21:25 <dihedral> Goulp, set max_planes to 0 for the first game years 13:23:29 <Goulp> dihedral: because we dont want to disable ALL planes for all players. 13:24:41 <Luukland> (doh) 13:27:03 <Ammler> goulp, maybe use something like the basecost.grf, it is "hidden" on bananas 13:27:39 <Rubidium> ah well, just mess around as much as you want. Don't expect my support/blessings though 13:28:07 <Rubidium> and don't expect nice explanations why we don't handle bug reports if they're caused by one of your servers 13:28:53 <Luukland> did you got ANY, even 1 bug report when Kurt's servers were running? 13:29:00 <Goulp> well better lock vehicleid and also autoreplace... 13:29:01 <Luukland> about Kurt's server it was 13:30:43 <Luukland> well Rubidium? Did you got 1 or more bug reports during the period Kurts server was running, about kurts patched server? 13:38:02 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 13:38:23 <Rubidium> as I said: past results aren't a measure for how well your stuff is going to fare 13:41:35 <dihedral> Luukland, future preautions must not only be based on past experience 13:42:36 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9D1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:56:33 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.99.80] has joined #openttd 13:57:20 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 14:01:18 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje140.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:02:37 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2D97C.flatrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:02:37 *** zachanim1 [~zach@50A2D97C.flatrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:11 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:15 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 14:12:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.80] has joined #openttd 14:22:46 *** mark_ is now known as Mark 14:32:17 <Belugas> hello 14:32:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:34:40 <Xaroth> hello Belugas 14:38:48 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@96.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 14:40:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42:37 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@64.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:37 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 14:43:56 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:55:31 <Luukland> Bananatree 14:55:33 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 14:55:50 <blathijs> Now those are some parting words! 14:55:53 <blathijs> Or, word. 14:57:17 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:39 *** bb10 [~nnscript@d52172.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:03:01 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:04:53 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17968 /extra/website/general/utils/binaries.py: [Website] -Fix: ignore index.html/index.xml in the download page. They are only visible if you don't allow/have javascript in your browser. 15:08:45 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2D97C.flatrate.dk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:08:52 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2D97C.flatrate.dk] has joined #openttd 15:09:44 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2D97C.flatrate.dk] has quit [] 15:09:48 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2D97C.flatrate.dk] has joined #openttd 15:10:46 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11:03 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 15:13:06 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:15:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:17:13 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has joined #openttd 15:30:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.80] has joined #openttd 15:40:34 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:46:37 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.237.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:41 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:41 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 15:49:39 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17969 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Codechange: use the toolbar switch button lowered state as a way to tell which of the configurations it's showing 15:50:32 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@23.152.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17970 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Codechange: some coding style / improvement of constant usage 16:10:44 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:10:57 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:39 *** Zahl__ [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:15:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-0cf9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:16:37 <Zuu> :-( why is the forums so lonely. I want new content to read and comment every time I go in there. :-p 16:16:53 <Zuu> Maybe it is time to not visit it so often. :-p 16:17:52 <Rubidium> that's because the moderators are working too hard to get the spam out? 16:18:17 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:17 *** Zahl__ is now known as Zahl 16:18:58 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:08 <Zuu> Maybe. Lets get back to cooding instead.. 16:19:20 <Zuu> coding* 16:19:42 <Rubidium> or drawing! 16:20:00 <Zuu> Me or you? 16:20:04 <Rubidium> fixing bugs would be welcome too 16:21:10 * Belugas is doing just that, right now 16:25:55 *** violetblood [~fcp@79.114.99.80] has quit [] 16:41:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3049.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:43:49 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 16:45:41 <George3> 547F2 [80][352*x] Vehicle array 16:45:41 <George3> 1A W The X location 16:45:41 <George3> 1C W The Y location 16:45:41 <George3> 1E B The Z location (altitude) 16:45:41 <George3> 26 W XY index of the vehicle's locationWhat is the right way to get Vehicle's loction incide a tile (16x16) 16:45:46 <SmatZ> @seen z-matrix 16:45:46 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: z-matrix was last seen in #openttd 5 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 29 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <z-MaTRiX> hi:) 16:45:53 *** George3 is now known as George 16:48:15 <Rubidium> the low nibble of the first two? 16:49:11 <George> It's in TTDpatch 16:49:21 <George> How does it work in OTTD? 16:49:30 <George> Bexcause of the large maps? 16:49:47 <Eddi|zuHause> what rubidium's saying is: (1A & 0x0F, 1C & 0x0F) 16:49:52 <Rubidium> the same 16:50:10 <George> thank you 16:50:37 <Eddi|zuHause> the larger maps only affect the higher bits 16:51:59 <George> And would it be hard to make 4x (6x) vars http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3281 ? 16:52:33 <George> It would be easier than calculate using 1A and 1C 16:53:35 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 17:05:03 *** bb10 [~nnscript@d52172.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:19 *** Goulp [~Muxy@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Quit: PACKET_CLIENT_QUIT] 17:30:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:48 *** bb10 [~nnscript@d52172.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:41:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:49:27 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:50:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.80] has joined #openttd 17:54:25 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 18:01:06 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:06:48 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g227092228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:11:31 *** worldemar [~woldemar@62.106.96.208] has joined #openttd 18:14:13 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051188024.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:14:13 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:22:42 *** Fenris [~fenris@p578E3245.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:23:58 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 18:26:16 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:11 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17971 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt table/sprites.h toolbar_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make the code of the toolbar more uniform; give the switch bar a tooltip and unify the naming of sprites. 18:33:13 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:16 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:57 <Muxy> hum nice ban list 18:35:21 <Luukland> very impressive 18:37:12 <SmatZ> why? 18:38:14 *** Fugas [~Fugas@isbprachen.clnet.cz] has joined #openttd 18:38:54 *** neli [micha@88.159.210.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39:18 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:18 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17972 /trunk/src/lang/simplified_chinese.txt: 18:45:18 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:18 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 2 changes by Gavin 18:56:34 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:59:12 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:03:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.178.80] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:16 <dihedral> can nasal understand getprop(..) ? 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However, they were still clickable 20:02:28 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Codechange: make the main toolbar a nested window 20:02:41 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 20:07:38 *** Spoons [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:08:23 <_ln> noches 20:09:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.176.200] has joined #openttd 20:11:31 *** Goulp [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:51 *** Goulp [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has left #openttd [] 20:16:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.178.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:05 *** phalax_ [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 20:19:54 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:25:52 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 20:30:56 *** phalax_ [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:31:27 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:52 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 20:37:22 *** StarLionIsaac [~isaac@87.115.36.134.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:24 *** StarLionIsaac [~isaac@87.115.36.134.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:03 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@96.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 21:05:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.76.85.plusnet.thn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:12:38 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hans@87-196-137-22.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 21:13:10 <HackaLittleBit> evenin 21:14:31 *** thingwath [~thingwath@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 21:25:27 <SmatZ> hello HackaLittleBit 21:25:51 <TrueBrain> SmatZ! You left! :'( 21:26:01 <HackaLittleBit> hey SmatZ 21:26:03 <TrueBrain> I was all scared last night! 21:26:24 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: what happened? 21:26:29 <SmatZ> oh 21:26:30 <TrueBrain> dunno! You left! :( 21:26:44 <andythenorth> evening 21:26:45 <SmatZ> I think the BNC disconnected me before I went to bed 21:27:01 <SmatZ> but I am here, alive and kicking! :-) 21:27:55 <andythenorth> hmmm....public airports produces interesting discussions :) 21:28:07 <HackaLittleBit> you went to bed early 21:28:14 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:28:15 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: pfew :) 21:29:27 <_ln> you went to bed with another channel and left #openttd all alone 21:30:55 *** thepalm [~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:31:04 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:31:17 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:31:57 <Sacro> ooh i have wave invites 21:36:28 <TrueBrain> get your board and go for it! 21:36:49 <Luukland> do some nice tricks and score some points! 21:39:06 <Sacro> HackaLittleBit: more signal stuff! 21:40:21 <TrueBrain> on the waves? 21:40:24 <TrueBrain> odd place for signals .. 21:40:38 <Sacro> oh yes 21:40:40 <Sacro> for boats 21:40:42 <Sacro> and such 21:41:01 <Zuu> aka light houses :-) 21:41:27 <TrueBrain> you also have floating thingies which have red or green lights 21:41:30 <TrueBrain> not light houses perse :) 21:41:59 <Zuu> Yep, ah, those. Got one on a photo this summer. 21:42:18 <TrueBrain> wow! That is very impressive; not many surface that time of year :p 21:42:23 *** bb10 [~nnscript@d52172.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:27 <Zuu> From a ferry after sunset. Really nice view :-) 21:45:09 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:45:37 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:48:25 * Zuu is happy - found a forum post he has not yet read (but on a non-transportation forum) 21:48:54 <TrueBrain> Zuu: start reading fed2k 21:49:03 <TrueBrain> if I can use you as search function, that would be useful 21:49:51 <Zuu> Or watching all the south park episodes. Found out yesterday that they have been put online by the maker, so you can legally watch all their episodes. 21:50:05 <TrueBrain> yup; south park dudes understand Internet :) 21:50:28 <Zuu> Though I'm a bit disapointed that they haven't included closed captions :-( 21:50:51 <Zuu> But o well, emailed them and asked if the american version has that. :-) 21:52:18 <Luukland> What you all cant do with spare time 21:55:28 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 21:56:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B778A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56:45 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B778A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:58:14 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:49 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: zzzz Poef!] 22:06:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:06:34 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.114.76.85.plusnet.thn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:07:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:10:44 * Rubidium ponders joining rick and lee 22:13:44 *** muep [~muep@www.sse.fi] has joined #openttd 22:14:01 <Belugas> and i ponder going home 22:14:10 <SmatZ> bye bye Belugas 22:14:21 <Rubidium> night Belugas 22:14:57 *** muep_ [~muep@www.sse.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:04 <Belugas> ho... i made a joke... if Rubidium pondered joining lee rick, he'd be making rimes :) 22:15:08 <Belugas> lee rick 22:15:13 <Belugas> lyric 22:15:19 <Belugas> yeah.. i' 22:15:21 <Belugas> m tired 22:15:25 <Belugas> night all :D 22:16:29 <HackaLittleBit> see you belugas 22:18:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3049.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:03 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 22:19:48 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hans@87-196-137-22.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 22:24:06 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 22:28:30 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-38-212.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:41 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@23.152.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 22:28:44 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-38-212.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 22:30:55 *** thepalm [~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]] 22:35:25 *** ezra [~ezra@c-98-216-49-27.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:35:29 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 22:35:31 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@23.152.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:04 *** john [~john@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:43:20 *** Fenris [~fenris@p578E3245.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 22:45:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-38-212.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:37 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEda32.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 22:49:45 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 22:53:44 <Terkhen> good night 22:53:46 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@96.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 22:55:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@89.246.176.200] has joined #openttd 23:01:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.176.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:59 *** john [~john@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:26 *** ezra [~ezra@c-98-216-49-27.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: 'night, folks] 23:07:57 *** neli [micha@88.159.211.247] has joined #openttd 23:08:07 *** neli [micha@88.159.211.247] has quit [] 23:08:19 *** neli [micha@88.159.211.247] has joined #openttd 23:16:57 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:21:18 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-0cf9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:29 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:21:47 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 23:22:29 <SpComb> crosspost! 23:25:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.176.200] has joined #openttd 23:25:22 <Prof_Frink> Both? All three. 23:28:18 <Nite_Owl> like the me in the other channel typed - not everyone is everywhere (Prof_Frink being an exception) 23:31:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@89.246.176.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:56 <SmatZ> /amsg hello Nite_Owl 23:33:30 <Nite_Owl> Hello SmatZ 23:33:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:53 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 23:45:11 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEA3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: May the schwartz be with you! (Möge der Saft mit euch sein!)]