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[~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:49:18 *** fonsinchen [~alve@77.188.53.213] has joined #openttd 09:01:18 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 09:04:47 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:05:56 <Sevalecan> gotta love git bisect. 09:06:18 *** Xaroth__ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 09:06:31 <Sevalecan> I'm going to find where this bug came from if it's the last thing I do! 09:07:29 <Noldo> I hope it's not 09:08:28 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:11:18 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 09:11:33 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:18 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 09:17:30 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 09:18:10 *** Xaroth__ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:29 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu] has joined #openttd 09:20:32 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:21:48 *** Xaroth_ is now known as Xaroth 09:22:50 *** cornjuliox [~lakdsj@122.53.119.140] has joined #openttd 09:23:32 *** WizzleBLincoln [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-21-193.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:41 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-21-193.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 09:25:28 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 09:31:15 *** vici [~vici@217.110.29.210] has joined #openttd 09:31:43 <vici> morning :-) 09:31:49 <vici> bah 09:31:51 *** vici is now known as Celestar 09:32:02 <Noldo> that's better 09:32:04 <Noldo> hi 09:32:16 <Celestar> how's everyone doing? 09:32:31 <planetmaker> :-O A Celestar ! 09:32:33 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:32:35 <roboboy> hello 09:32:51 <Celestar> a new planet :D 09:33:02 <planetmaker> how's going? 09:33:19 <planetmaker> Do I now have to say 'you' to you? ;-) 09:33:25 <Celestar> lmao 09:33:29 <Celestar> doing really fine 09:34:14 <planetmaker> good to hear :-) 09:34:19 <Celestar> beeng tracking openttd a bit :) 09:34:31 <planetmaker> hehe. Old addictions die hard, eh? 09:34:38 <Celestar> they never did 09:34:43 <Celestar> I just didn't get around to coding 09:34:51 <__ln> first a Bjarni, now a Celestar. they reappear in alphabetical order. 09:34:55 <Celestar> might resume once my dissertation is finished :) 09:35:10 <planetmaker> oh, I thought it is by now :-) 09:35:26 <Celestar> yeah so did :( 09:35:29 <Celestar> looong story 09:35:32 <planetmaker> welcome to the club 09:35:45 <Celestar> doing 2.5 years of full time sysadmin takes its tool 09:35:48 <Celestar> toll 09:35:52 <planetmaker> yeah 09:36:00 <Celestar> plus I have a job :P 09:36:10 <Noldo> plus? 09:36:19 <planetmaker> not at the 'versity you do your diss? 09:36:38 <Celestar> I quit Uni last fall. 09:36:41 * roboboy wonders whats happening in Eurpoe 09:36:47 <planetmaker> oh. right. That kind of thing 09:36:56 <Celestar> doing real work now :P 09:37:00 <Celestar> software development, for a change. 09:37:27 <planetmaker> he. You were doing what before? Aerodynamics? 09:37:30 <Celestar> yeah 09:37:39 <Celestar> Aerospace Engineering 09:37:46 <peter1138> __ln, except hackykid as well... 09:37:49 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 09:37:52 <Celestar> PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETER :D 09:38:01 <Celestar> how ya been? 09:41:03 *** fonsinchen [~alve@77.188.53.213] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41:41 <Rubidium> don't forget DV few months ago 09:42:11 <planetmaker> ghosts roaming these places :-P 09:42:37 <Eddi|zuHause> and truebrain after a few weeks of absence ;) 09:43:11 <peter1138> hi celestar 09:43:22 <peter1138> Celestar, i think we're a bit behind with cargodest ;( 09:44:33 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:47:22 *** Maedhros [~Maedhros@calendular.dur.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 09:47:22 <Rubidium> anyhow... /me waves to Celestar 09:47:50 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 09:48:13 <Celestar> peter1138: slightly? 09:48:17 <Celestar> Rubidium: :) 09:48:33 <Celestar> peter1138: about time we change it? :P 09:48:36 <Rubidium> Celestar: yeah, we're always using those words :) 09:48:46 <planetmaker> :-D 09:48:50 <Rubidium> e.g. there has been a slight increase in traffic since 1.0.0-beta 09:48:52 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/dec2.png 09:50:01 <Celestar> peter1138: but maybe a rewrite is needded :P 09:50:18 <planetmaker> hehe 09:50:58 <Eddi|zuHause> or a review of cargodist? 09:51:13 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/stats.pdf <- also show small spikes with 1.0.0-beta1 09:51:13 <Celestar> lost track of that project tbh 09:52:02 <Celestar> what are the 2 trendlines Rubidium ? 09:53:01 <Rubidium> one (the green one) is a 2 (or 4?) week average, the other is the trendline as OOcalc think it should be 09:53:27 * roboboy pokes his head back in again 09:54:14 <Rubidium> oh, 30 day average 09:54:19 <Celestar> both point upwards :P 09:55:04 <Rubidium> last page is blue number of content downloads, yellow number of MBs downloaded 09:55:38 <planetmaker> he. All downloading base sets, I guess at Christmas? 09:55:38 <Rubidium> yes... at busy days 30 GB is downloaded via the content download system alone 09:56:10 <Rubidium> actually, the downloads done by the installer isn't included in either figure 09:56:20 <planetmaker> oh... 09:57:12 <Celestar> mesa liked the installed 09:57:15 <Celestar> installer 10:00:37 * roboboy wonders what nfo stands for 10:00:49 <Rubidium> nothing 10:01:10 <Rubidium> although there're probably enough backronyms to be found 10:02:07 <roboboy> yeah 10:02:33 <Wizzleby> you mean it doesn't just stand for 'info'? :) 10:03:32 <Celestar> heh 10:03:53 <roboboy> and would you call it a programming language? 10:04:50 *** mib_ffwsr0 [58934491@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:08:52 <Celestar> it's turing complete is it not? 10:09:00 <planetmaker> ^ so, yes, it is :-) 10:13:00 <Eddi|zuHause> why would "turing complete" be a requirement for "programming language"? 10:13:28 <Celestar> it's not a requirement 10:13:33 <Celestar> it's an indicator :P 10:13:43 <Eddi|zuHause> and lack of loops is a bit problematic 10:14:20 <planetmaker> difference between necessary and sufficient 10:14:50 <Celestar> afaik turning complete is neither necessary nor sufficient :P 10:14:56 <Rubidium> argh... 10:15:13 <Celestar> hm .. what IS the status of the Mac port? 10:15:20 <peter1138> argh? 10:15:21 <planetmaker> discontinued 10:15:33 <Rubidium> would it be acceptable if you laptop goes into uhm... thermal protected (i.e. kill itself) after 30 seconds of video playback? 10:15:35 <Celestar> forever? :P 10:15:52 <Celestar> Rubidium: if you play less .. hot videos, it might not (= 10:16:09 <Rubidium> but the daily show isn't that hot 10:16:13 <planetmaker> until someone picks it up again, I guess. With sufficient fevor and knowledge to become an official dev 10:16:19 <Rubidium> at least not hot enough to show on television here 10:16:41 <Celestar> maybe I should look at it :P 10:17:07 <Rubidium> you're a mac user now? 10:17:10 <planetmaker> many said that already... 10:17:32 <Celestar> Rubidium: nah I'm not, but I have access to macs. 10:18:35 * roboboy ponders trying to write a wikipedia artice for NFO 10:18:52 <Eddi|zuHause> from what i heard it's knowledge of mac api, not access to mac, that is the problem 10:18:54 <planetmaker> roboboy, wikipedia or the openttd wiki? 10:19:10 <roboboy> wikipedia 10:19:27 <roboboy> its listed under the disambiguation page for NFO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nfo 10:19:33 <planetmaker> then it will probably be classified as 'irrelevant' :-P 10:19:47 <roboboy> It probably will 10:19:53 <Rubidium> roboboy: first find a number of good sources... otherwise they might quickly kill it again 10:19:59 <roboboy> but ill try 10:22:27 *** mib_ffwsr0 [58934491@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:22:51 <Sevalecan> Noldo: it took me until now to get the meaning of "I hope it's not" in response to my comment :P 10:23:12 <Sevalecan> I did find the revision the bug was introduced in without dying, though 10:23:21 <Noldo> great! 10:23:54 <Celestar> why do they have to make DVD playback such a pita? 10:26:50 <roboboy> has it already been written and deleted? 10:26:50 <roboboy> is the TTDP wiki a good initial source? 10:26:54 <Rubidium> oh yes... this new motherboard really helps with my stability problems... 10:27:09 <Rubidium> roboboy: no, that's the primary source, not an independent secondary source 10:27:38 <Sevalecan> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3551 <3 I wonder if subversion has an equivalent to git bisect. 10:27:41 <roboboy> hm /me wonders where to find secondary sources on NFO 10:27:50 <Rubidium> just look at the openttd page discussion about merging with the transport tycoon page 10:28:07 <roboboy> ive read some of it 10:31:16 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-3-231-206.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 10:32:23 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-3-231-206.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:34:44 <Celestar> hm.. 10:34:49 <Celestar> quite neat this VMWare Workstation 7 10:34:54 *** Sevalecan [Sevalecan@64.119.61.194] has quit [Quit: brb] 10:41:41 *** heffer [~felix@mue-88-130-73-060.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 10:45:38 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D4C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46:15 *** Luukland [~luukland@ip195-211-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:23 *** roboboy [724a8429@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:48:15 *** Sevalecan [Sevalecan@64.119.61.194] has joined #openttd 10:50:37 *** roboboy [6e143c44@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:51:07 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D4C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:00:37 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-138-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:04:02 <peter1138> MTBF: 294,928 hour(s) 11:04:06 <peter1138> isn't that a bit... specific? 11:05:27 <Sevalecan> lol 11:05:31 <Noldo> MTBF? 11:05:37 <Sevalecan> mean time before failure? 11:06:09 <peter1138> yeah 11:07:15 <peter1138> is it me, or is that over 33 years? 11:09:24 <Wizzleby> about 33 and 2/3 11:11:35 <peter1138> mm 11:11:39 <peter1138> i find that unlikely :) 11:12:58 *** heffer_ [~felix@mue-88-130-126-036.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 11:15:10 <Celestar> mean time between failures afaik 11:17:41 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@68.Red-88-6-101.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:52 *** roboboy [6e143c44@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:20:08 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc4-newt30-2-0-cust18.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:20:11 *** heffer [~felix@mue-88-130-73-060.dsl.tropolys.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:21:24 <peter1138> yeah i know what MTBF means :) 11:22:05 <Terkhen> hello 11:25:38 <fjb> Be careful, it's a mean time. 11:25:47 <fjb> Moin Terkhen 11:26:06 <__ln> mean time between f*** 11:26:30 <peter1138> yeah, that must mean in some cases it'll be much longer 11:27:19 *** Luukland [~luukland@ip195-211-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has left #openttd [] 11:28:51 *** Hackykid [~quassel@dyn241-hg.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 11:35:43 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm119.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:38:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BB61.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:39:30 <Celestar> Hackykid :D 11:41:10 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Chris_Booth{Bored} 11:41:16 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8df85.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:20 *** Chris_Booth{Bored} is now known as Chris_Booth 11:41:43 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Chris_Booth{Bored} 11:43:35 <Rubidium> Pikka! 11:43:58 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:48:03 <SpComb^> "Unfortunately the university does not allow any external DNS entries, that means anything outside the .utwente.nl range, to point to any machine within the university's IP-range. That includes our server. This means that it is not possible for projects to create a 'ftp1.nl.project.tld' and let that DNS point to our server." 11:48:32 <SpComb^> not possible eh 11:48:56 <Rubidium> ftp.nl.debian.org? 11:49:03 <Noldo> what does not allowing mean in practice? 11:49:45 <Rubidium> Noldo: just resolve ftp.nl.debian.org to an IP and reverse dns that to give you a clue 11:50:44 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-21-193.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:51:14 <Rubidium> on the other hand, OpenTTD's mirroring system doesn't strictly need it :) 11:51:35 <__ln> how do they not allow it for me, for example? 11:52:13 <Noldo> so they don't want to configure the reverse to from their ip range to outside their dns range 11:53:04 <Rubidium> ah well, I know at least TWO dnses not in .utwente.nl that resolve to 130.89.0.0/16: ftp.nl.debian.org and utwente.de 11:53:24 <Rubidium> but technically they don't allow it 11:53:36 <Noldo> what are they doing to stop it? 11:53:48 <Rubidium> by the looks of it not much 11:54:03 <Rubidium> but... the question is: what's pointing 11:54:25 <peter1138> you might end up in the wrong vhost :) 11:54:32 <peter1138> (if it has vhosts) 11:54:47 <Rubidium> nl.binaries.openttd.org CNAME ftp.snt.utwente.nl" target="_blank">ftp.snt.utwente.nl \n ftp.snt.utwente.nl" target="_blank">ftp.snt.utwente.nl A 130.89.149.20 11:55:04 <Rubidium> does that mean nl.binaries.openttd.org points to an IP within the 130.89.0.0/16 range? 11:55:15 <Noldo> :) 11:56:25 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.139.130] has joined #openttd 11:58:46 *** Penda [~Penda@host-83-166-20-174.hernonet.se] has quit [Quit: Penda] 12:08:10 *** roboboy [724af4bf@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:08:10 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10:01 <peter1138> so, er, how do i set up ssh to require a password as well as keys? 12:14:12 *** roboboy [724af4bf@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:17:45 <Sevalecan> is that even possible? 12:17:58 <Sevalecan> unless you have to give a password to the key when you make it.. 12:18:02 * Sevalecan doesn't know :P 12:18:40 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiw41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 12:32:37 <TinoDidriksen> Yeah, you'd have to create the key locked with a password. 12:33:16 <TinoDidriksen> The whole point is that no password is sent over the wire. 12:38:42 <SpComb^> create a custom keyboard-interactive auth method that asks the user to type in their public key 12:42:44 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-16-169.A149.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 12:46:50 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:13 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-119-23.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:12 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-96-66.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 12:49:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:53:35 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:54:04 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@68.Red-88-6-101.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 12:55:49 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:56:26 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFB9B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:31 *** DaZ_ [~ident-dwa@dtj72.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 12:56:41 *** ctibor|spi [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 12:58:24 *** kjetil [~kjetil@presenterer.formye.info] has joined #openttd 12:58:30 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@68.Red-88-6-101.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 12:59:07 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> galapagos.oftc.net quits: DaZ, Fuco, Forked, Kharza, jonty-comp, Dreamxtreme, octo, eQualizer, ctibor, +michi_cc, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 12:59:07 *** kjetil is now known as Forked 12:59:29 *** Netsplit over, joins: eQualizer 13:00:47 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has joined #openttd 13:01:03 *** Sionide- [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 13:02:12 *** octo_ [octo@if-loop.org] has joined #openttd 13:02:15 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> plasma.oftc.net quits: octo_, Zahl, Cybertinus, guru3 13:02:15 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-16-169.A149.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 13:02:28 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18884 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt newgrf.cpp): -Fix: [NewGRF] Perform bounds checking for all NewGRF data reads. Explicit length checks (which were not always correct) are no longer needed so these are removed to simplify code. 13:02:59 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> magnet.oftc.net quits: SpComb^, KenjiE20, woldemar, HerzogDeXtEr1, Muxy, APTX, mirQus, Celestar, snorre, void^, (+6 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 13:03:00 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-3-231-206.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:03:02 *** Sionide- is now known as Sionide 13:03:33 *** rane_ [rane@cs181054076.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 13:03:33 *** Kharza| [~thartika@hytti.uku.fi] has joined #openttd 13:03:36 *** Netsplit over, joins: KenjiE20, lugo, Celestar, woldemar, HerzogDeXtEr1, snorre, APTX, Muxy, SpComb^, void^ (+5 more) 13:03:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 13:05:13 *** Netsplit over, joins: octo_, Cybertinus, Zahl, guru3 13:07:30 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:690e:a9ca:c98b:2b54] has joined #openttd 13:07:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:07:38 <Celestar> netsplits have not changed a bit :P 13:08:16 <Forked> hm 13:08:29 <glx> oh Celestar is back 13:08:31 *** roboboy [6e143976@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:09:17 <planetmaker> Celestar, they only are present when you're here :-P 13:09:53 <planetmaker> Like "what was that?" - "A plug" - "How do you know" - "I hold it in my hands :-P" ;-) 13:09:57 <Celestar> oh heya glx 13:10:08 <Celestar> lol pm 13:10:59 *** Vaevictus [vae@63.117.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:11:08 <planetmaker> joke aside, they're not that often, though. Bad timing, I guess 13:12:00 <peter1138> (sorry andythenorth) 13:12:03 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 13:12:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 13:13:03 <planetmaker> hm @ peter1138 ? 13:13:31 <planetmaker> breaking FIRS? 13:14:03 *** roboboy [6e143976@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:14:48 <peter1138> HEQS 13:15:12 <planetmaker> oh. May I ask how? I read the commit, but... 13:15:33 <planetmaker> wait... HEQS has some bad sprites IIRC, right? 13:15:37 <peter1138> exactly 13:19:22 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-206-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:29 <Celestar> I gotta head out 13:20:32 <Celestar> work cals 13:21:26 *** Celestar [~vici@217.110.29.210] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22:48 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-138-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:32:39 *** Hackykid_ [~quassel@wlan072158.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 13:36:23 *** Hackykid [~quassel@dyn241-hg.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:37:51 *** Hackykid [~quassel@dyn241-hg.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 13:37:56 *** Hackykid_ [~quassel@wlan072158.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39:33 *** Hackykid_ [~quassel@wlan072158.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 13:45:55 *** Hackykid [~quassel@dyn241-hg.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:08 *** Hackykid_ [~quassel@wlan072158.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18885 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r18884): Industry tile layouts weren't completely freed on error. 14:10:52 *** Penda [~Penda@host-83-166-20-174.hernonet.se] has joined #openttd 14:14:28 *** Bjelleklang [~Bjellekla@77.94.232.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:38 <JVassie^> wheres the easiest place to get heightmaps of the uk from pls? 14:19:52 <JVassie^> anyone got any ideas? 14:20:24 <planetmaker> google maps? NASA? ESA? 14:20:39 <Noldo> aren't there some heightmap threads in the forums 14:20:51 <planetmaker> ^ might be even easier ;-) 14:20:56 <planetmaker> or even on bananas 14:20:57 <JVassie^> heh 14:21:07 <JVassie^> not looking for all of UK 14:21:35 <planetmaker> ok, easiest: your government bureau of cartography 14:21:40 <planetmaker> But it will cost you 14:21:51 <JVassie^> le sigh :p 14:21:55 <JVassie^> preferably free 14:22:01 <JVassie^> (i know its scabby) 14:22:08 <planetmaker> tsk tsk. All those nasty boundary conditions 14:22:11 <planetmaker> And online even, too 14:22:14 <planetmaker> and digital 14:23:28 <planetmaker> honestly, check out NASA (afair). They have global DEM at ~km scale. But it needs of course processing to something useful for OpenTTD 14:23:38 <JVassie^> yeah 14:23:43 <JVassie^> i have the thread handy 14:23:46 <JVassie^> toconvert them 14:23:52 <JVassie^> using microdem or whatever its called 14:25:13 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@209.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 14:26:57 <planetmaker> http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/bathymetry/relief.html 14:27:23 <planetmaker> ^ JVassie^ 14:27:30 <Eddi|zuHause> my new computer is here \o/ 14:27:48 <Noldo> we got on Monday \o/ 14:27:56 <JVassie^> thnx planetmaker :) 14:28:07 <Noldo> my son really likes the touchscreen 14:28:38 <planetmaker> yw 14:29:31 <planetmaker> good to have it bookmarked. Bad to have it in a pile of hundret bookmarks ;-) 14:30:04 <Eddi|zuHause> question: install first, or put hard drives in it first? 14:30:23 <Noldo> install what? 14:30:25 <planetmaker> dd old system 14:30:31 <planetmaker> and then boot from new ;-) 14:32:26 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i doubt that is a good idea :p 14:32:34 <planetmaker> depends ;-) 14:32:57 <planetmaker> but I wonder why you would want to start the new machine without HDD. 14:33:38 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it does have A hard drive in it 14:33:50 <planetmaker> ah ;-) 14:34:08 <planetmaker> well, if it is sufficient as system partition. Why not use it as such? 14:34:17 <planetmaker> having that separate is not a bad idea anyway. 14:34:29 <Noldo> I would put all hard drives in first 14:35:09 <Eddi|zuHause> well. i'd rather reuse one of the existing partitioned disks as system, so i could use that one in full... 14:35:28 <planetmaker> then I'd follow Noldo's advice 14:35:29 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 14:39:53 *** rait [~chatzilla@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 14:40:37 <rait> hello. me again with the mysterious exit freeze on server 2008 r2. this time it's beta3. any point in uploading the dump? 14:41:50 <Noldo> it freezes when you click quit ? 14:43:13 <rait> yes 14:43:58 <Noldo> I had that too 14:44:22 <rait> what OS? 14:44:30 <Noldo> ubuntu 9.10 14:45:22 <rait> hmm, probablly different bug, mine seems to be caused by windows's sound system not releasing a channel or something. 14:45:47 <rait> i'm not a dev, but i think it is unrelated to my freeze 14:47:00 <rait> do you have any steps to reproduce? 14:47:12 <Noldo> click quit :) 14:47:24 <rait> happens every time? 14:47:26 <Noldo> yes 14:48:15 <rait> beta3? 14:48:53 <rait> as in openttd 1.0.0-beta3 14:49:25 <peter1138> use -s null ;) 14:49:53 <rait> who was it addressed to? 14:49:59 <peter1138> anyone 14:54:19 <planetmaker> rait, the question is: do you have a sure way to reproduce that behaviour? 14:54:24 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:56:23 *** rhaeder1 is now known as rhaeder 14:57:03 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFB9B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:20 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:58:40 <Luukland> Ahum, I reported some graphical glitches some days ago in the nightlies 14:58:44 <Luukland> but they are still excisting 14:59:08 <Luukland> when leaving a game/leaving multiplayer, huge graphic errors, win32, win 7, latest nightly 14:59:11 <planetmaker> oh no! 14:59:28 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:05 <Belugas> hello 15:00:13 <peter1138> hmm, don't see any FS report 15:00:40 <Luukland> For these things? :) 15:00:45 <peter1138> well yes 15:01:26 <Luukland> Let me make one 15:02:42 <Luukland> Ah no, I can't ;) I deleted my account :p 15:05:02 <Eddi|zuHause> what did you do that for? 15:05:41 <Luukland> None of your business 15:06:20 <Belugas> nasty boy 15:10:03 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-206-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:10:17 <peter1138> silly RIPE, sending invoices that have already been paid 15:11:19 <planetmaker> he. But maybe accounting needs that for whatever purpose... 15:12:08 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-206-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:17:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i'm out for a while... 15:18:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:38 <luckz> is there btw anything to help distinguish what trains belong to which train set, if you have like 300? 15:20:18 <luckz> also, for using multiple vehicle grfs, is there one to get the default vehicles back/in too? 15:22:03 <Elessar> 300 trains. I am only beginning with OpenTTD (and *TTD, by the way), and I do not know hopw you can manage them. 15:22:47 <planetmaker> luckz, use the grf which provides the default vehicles (again) 15:22:56 <planetmaker> Most vehicle newgrfs deactivate the default ones. 15:23:13 <peter1138> just turn off multiple vehicle sets and stop loading so many 15:26:26 <Rubidium> rait: does your system have a sound card? If so, which one? 15:26:47 <luckz> planetmaker: I don't see "the grf which provides the default vehicles" in my Available NewGRF Files window, so.. do I have to make a copy of trg*.grf somewhere else, or ..? 15:27:09 <Yexo> luckz: no, you have to download origveh.grf 15:28:21 <planetmaker> ^ 15:28:52 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:07 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:5ce2:d4a2:1:945a:a2f5:87db:8efe] has joined #openttd 15:29:31 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:30 *** Zahl__ [~Zahl@g226212162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:34:34 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18886 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r18884): Spurious casting 15:34:40 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:5ce2:d4a2:1:945a:a2f5:87db:8efe] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:34:40 *** Zahl__ is now known as Zahl 15:36:54 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 15:37:29 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:5ce2:d4a2:1:945a:a2f5:87db:8efe] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:39 <rait> planetmaker: i have no way's to reproduce it, at least nothing that is 100% reliable 15:40:14 <rait> i only see this after playing sessions, ant they usually take hours. no way to tell what trigers it 15:40:33 <planetmaker> rait, if you have a non-reliable way it's better than none ;-) 15:41:00 <planetmaker> as long as the non-reliable way is... faster than hours ;-) 15:41:20 <planetmaker> e.g. do A, do B, do C, then D and with 70% you get a hang 15:41:21 <rait> Rubidium, only the one integrated on the mobo 15:41:58 <rait> planetmaker, if there is one, i haven't found it yet 15:43:23 <rait> Rubidium, motherboard is Asus M3N-hd/hdmi if that helps. a real beast with a total of 4 ways to output audio 15:43:42 *** Chris_Booth{Bored} is now known as Chris_Booth 15:46:17 *** DJ_Danni-away [DJ_Danni@88.149.48.164] has quit [] 15:47:01 <rait> okay, just found a way to reproduce it. seems to be 100% and no problems with '-s null' 15:48:31 <rait> steps: 1. start 2. load a game 3. change the windows default audio output 4. save game 5. exit 6. freeze 15:49:13 <rait> just tested, you can skip steps 2 and 4 15:50:06 <rait> can anyone test this and verify? 15:50:38 *** fjb is now known as Guest222 15:50:39 *** fjb [~frank@p5485ADF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:51:17 <planetmaker> just for curiosity: what is "window default audio output 4"? I usually have one... and that's the speakers 15:51:37 <glx> rait: like changing from speaker to digital ? 15:51:45 <rait> glx, yes 15:51:49 <glx> I can try 15:52:02 <rait> in my case from speakers to hdmi or back 15:52:37 <glx> I have only speaker and digital ;) 15:52:41 <rait> planetmaker, i have 4 audio outputs, 2 of them disabled. 4 is actually the fourth step in this case 15:54:12 <Luukland> thx for fixing the graphic errors peter1138 :) 15:54:51 <rait> glx, can you reproduce the freeze? 15:54:53 <peter1138> ? 15:54:58 <glx> compiling ;) 15:55:12 <glx> I try with trunk directly 15:55:18 <rait> ok 15:57:30 *** Guest222 [~frank@p5485D4C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:14 <glx> confirmed 16:00:53 <glx> now I can try to fix it 16:01:41 <rait> if this ends up with a complaint to M$, i'll be happy to sign it :) 16:04:17 <peter1138> Luukland, what fix? 16:06:27 <SpComb^> woo, tracking some external .patch in a branch: git revert --no-commit && git apply ... 16:07:22 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:39 *** wysiwtf [josh@blackbox.j-chaos.net] has joined #openttd 16:07:51 <wysiwtf> mmh 16:08:28 <wysiwtf> im thinking about how hard it would be to add other "networks" to ottd 16:08:42 <wysiwtf> like a power and a data-network 16:08:55 <wysiwtf> or water 16:09:32 <wysiwtf> building it could be like building tracks, but there would be no vehicles but a throuhput of the track itself 16:10:13 <wysiwtf> would that be possible with existing grf toolkits or would the core-app need to be touched 16:12:03 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9AA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:13:09 *** heffer_ [~felix@mue-88-130-126-036.dsl.tropolys.de] has quit [Quit: heffer_] 16:16:51 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm119.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:17:14 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 16:17:50 <luckz> SpComb^: what exactly does your (almost-)everything build contain? besides the two obvious biggies, IS & CD.. 16:18:09 <SpComb^> luckz: mystery! :) 16:18:27 <SpComb^> luckz: nah... it's stuff from my openttd/patches/ dir, as in my thread in the dev forum 16:19:16 *** Bluelight [JavaUser@170.80-203-76.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 16:19:23 <SpComb^> gathers: reading this diff-diff, I see you made some changes to the add-20ms-bit? 16:19:39 <luckz> the one with variable daylength, town growth, timetable-autofilling, towncargostuff, name length limit, minus the changes post jan11? or a different thread? 16:19:49 <SpComb^> that one 16:21:07 <gathers> SpComb^: from the previous patch? yes, I removed it from one place where it wasn't needed 16:21:46 *** TrueBrain [91764884@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:21:56 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4360.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:57 <SpComb^> might be imagining it but the wait times do seem a tad shorter 16:24:11 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 16:24:31 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 16:26:38 <gathers> possible, or atleast they shoud get shorter faster 16:31:38 <SpComb^> is there a 1.0 branch for git? 16:33:43 *** Maedhros [~Maedhros@calendular.dur.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:33:53 <Yexo> there is no 1.0 branch currently, so not for git either 16:35:29 *** woldemar [~world@188.122.236.18] has quit [Quit: ???????????? ???????] 16:35:58 <SpComb^> seems like the tag-commits don't go into git? 16:36:26 *** woldemar [~world@188.122.236.18] has joined #openttd 16:36:28 <SpComb^> just wondering if it's possible to build a release version off git 16:37:12 <Yexo> why not? see http://git.openttd.org/openttd/branches/0.7.git/ for example 16:37:46 <TrueBrain> release tags are not exported to git or mercurial 16:37:57 <SpComb^> well yes, r18871 isn't in git :( 16:38:58 <Yexo> r18871 isn't tagged with the svn version in mercurial either, maybe something went wrong with git too 16:39:47 <Yexo> oh, ignore that 16:39:52 <peter1138> most likely git/hg only track trunk? 16:40:02 <peter1138> branches being handled differently in svn 16:40:05 <TrueBrain> no, they also track branches 16:40:11 <TrueBrain> just not tags 16:40:33 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest230 16:40:33 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:40:33 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 16:41:31 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest231 16:41:32 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:46 <TrueBrain> normal git/hg tags btw don't work: tags in subversion are not clean tags, there are changes while tagging .. a bit nasty way of tagging, but it works :) 16:44:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:44:51 *** rait [~chatzilla@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 16:47:12 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 16:47:25 *** Guest230 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:02 *** Guest231 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:55 *** rait [~rait@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:53:15 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@101.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 16:55:09 *** Luukland [~luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: If you might be interested in playing the first OpenTTD Campaign, try luukland.goulp.net] 16:57:10 *** rait [~rait@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has quit [] 16:57:45 *** rait [~rait@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:57:49 *** Bjelleklang [~Bjellekla@212.125.206.249] has joined #openttd 16:59:10 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@209.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:24 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc35d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:16 *** rait [~rait@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:29 *** rait [~rait@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:03:09 <rait> seems that openttd isn't the only thing i manage to crash 17:03:22 *** fjb [~frank@p5485ADF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:18 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 17:09:31 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D48F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:10:12 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@73.69.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:09 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:43 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... so at least that part worked... 17:12:08 <Eddi|zuHause> two hours to move the hard drives, and get the old computer running again... 17:12:36 <Eddi|zuHause> question: how does one steer two computers with one mouse? 17:13:18 <Eddi|zuHause> and this hard disk is really loud... i should have chosen a different one... 17:13:55 <fjb> Steer to ebay and get e second mouse. 17:14:47 <fjb> What hard disk is it? Some anti vibration stuff may help. 17:15:04 <Eddi|zuHause> not worth it... some old WD with 120GB 17:15:57 <Eddi|zuHause> and the colours are totally off when i attach the TFT via VGA cable... 17:16:37 <fjb> Colors on TFT are always off. 17:16:41 <SpComb^> pfft 17:16:42 <SpComb^> someone broke your computer? 17:16:56 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i bought a new one 17:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause> so i connected the new one via DVI and the old one via VGA to the same monitor 17:21:09 <fjb> Sounds like the vga port of the monitor is crap. 17:23:10 *** Sweet|Home [~Sweet@cpc3-port7-0-0-cust724.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:24:22 *** Goulp [~Goulp@ip163.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 17:25:52 <Eddi|zuHause> might be the cable... 17:26:21 <Belugas> call the cable guy! 17:27:48 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:29:00 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-3-231-206.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 17:37:39 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i have now two computers, one monitor, two keyboards and one-and-a-half mice... i'm getting hopelessly confused 17:38:23 *** Sevalecan [Sevalecan@64.119.61.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:38:30 <Alberth> give one computer away 17:38:42 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: you always have problems, don't you? :p 17:38:52 <fjb> Front or back half? 17:39:58 <SpComb^> Eddi|zuHause: you don't want or need two desktops 17:40:56 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 17:41:03 <Goulp> eddi: what should i say with 4 computers, 1 with display,keyb,mouse and others without display keyb and mouse... 17:41:14 <Terkhen> I converted my old desktop in a server that I never use 17:41:24 <SpComb^> yes, that's how you're supposed to do it 17:41:31 <Goulp> hopfully they have network cable and remote connection 17:42:47 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 17:42:59 <SpComb^> uh oh, my WS2008 VM somehow managed to corrupt itself 17:43:48 <fjb> Wer have 2010, no wonder WS2008 doesn't work anymore. 17:43:51 <thingwath> I wonder where my second computer is. It doesn't answer on network. 17:44:41 <SpComb^> which is somewhat annoying 17:44:58 <SpComb^> since the only snapshot of it that I have is from before I set up VS2008 17:45:28 <Eddi|zuHause> lack of backup strategy... 17:45:38 <Rubidium> WS = Wisual Studio? or Windows Server? 17:45:48 <SpComb^> WS = Windows Server, VS = Visual Studio 17:45:54 <fjb> And time to set up somethning more stable. 17:46:41 <SpComb^> didn't anticipate it corrupting its login GUI dlls 17:50:51 *** neli [micha@88.159.211.247] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:51:48 *** neli [~neli@88.159.211.247] has joined #openttd 17:52:20 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like a virus gone haywire 17:54:04 <SpComb^> http://en.community.dell.com/forums/t/19303664.aspx 17:54:17 <SpComb^> disk error in my virtual machine? :o 17:56:48 <Alberth> that's a good emulation :p 17:56:56 <luckz> what do you use VS for? 17:57:08 * SpComb^ searches for the "random disk errors" check box in his VirtualBox setup 17:57:33 <Rubidium> SpComb^: all it requires is a somewhat flaky CPU or motherboard 17:57:38 <Rubidium> or memory or ... 17:57:54 <Alberth> of course there isn't one. Did you ever find such a switch at your HD? 17:59:04 <fjb> You find it inside. Just open the case. 17:59:28 <Belugas> don't try this at home, kids. those guys are professionals 18:00:51 <fjb> We are good at giving good advises. 18:01:44 <Rubidium> actually, the last time I opened a HDD it became better than it was before 18:02:13 <TrueBrain> I tried it last week, but it never came back :p 18:02:43 <Rubidium> although that was like 15 years ago with an already 10 year old HDD (1 GB SCSI 2x5.25") 18:03:05 <Rubidium> that uhm... was in a remodelling (i.e. lots of dust) environment 18:03:29 <Rubidium> opening it and putting some oil on the bearings did help 18:03:55 <TrueBrain> I did learn not to spin up a 7200rpm HD when it is open .. it is SCARY! 18:04:14 *** Sweet|Home^ [~Sweet@cpc3-port7-0-0-cust724.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:04:14 *** Sweet|Home [~Sweet@cpc3-port7-0-0-cust724.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:06 <Eddi|zuHause> did it cause death? :p 18:05:55 <TrueBrain> haha 18:06:02 <TrueBrain> Yeah, they have internet there too 18:09:08 *** Goulp [~Goulp@ip163.opsio.fr] has quit [Quit: PACKET_SERVER_SHUTDOWN] 18:12:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:13:43 *** DJ_Danni [DJ_Danni@88.149.48.164] has joined #openttd 18:13:50 <DJ_Danni> hi 18:17:45 *** TrueBrain [91764884@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 18:19:45 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFB9B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:29:03 <Ammler> someone else tried to install beta3 on windows? (download of [g|s]fx failed 18:29:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host13-161-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:29:16 <Ammler> (with installer) 18:29:53 <luckz> don't think I ever tried the installer, no 18:30:06 <Wolf01> hello :O 18:30:13 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:34 <Ammler> if you have windows, could you try, so we can confirm issues, maybe with the new mirroring system 18:30:56 <Forked> fails on xp (32bit) 18:31:03 <Forked> instant fail 18:31:25 <Ammler> now, who does bugreport :-) 18:31:45 <Forked> not me, sorry. Dinnertime 18:32:39 <peter1138> Ammler, you 18:32:49 <SpComb^> why is the DirectX SDK 2007 installer an .msi inside a self-extracting .exe inside a self-extracting .exe? 18:32:49 <peter1138> it would make a change ;p 18:33:06 <peter1138> because microsoft are strange 18:33:39 <Sacro> higher compression? 18:33:49 <SpComb^> worse 18:34:03 <SpComb^> they should just distribute the samples separately and they'd save 80% of the bandwidth 18:34:11 <Yexo> installer tries to download from http://binaries.openttd.org/installer/* but that directory doesn't exist 18:34:12 <Ammler> where shall I report it to? (Website, so Truebrain will see it..) 18:35:58 <Ammler> Yexo, will you report, you seem already have the solution? 18:36:05 <Yexo> no 18:36:09 <Yexo> I don't have the solution 18:36:13 <Rubidium> Yexo: try binaries.openttd.org/installer/opengfx-0.7.7z (or whatever install.nsi says) 18:36:36 <glx> 404 18:36:53 <Yexo> http://binaries.openttd.org/installer/opengfx-0.7.0.gz 404 18:37:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:37:30 <frosch123> http://cz.binaries.openttd.org/openttd/binaries/installer/ <- from there i get all 18:37:46 <glx> http://binaries.openttd.org/installer/opengfx-0.7.0.7z works for me (IPv6 so nl) 18:38:06 <Rubidium> Yexo: .7z, not .gz 18:38:26 <Ammler> http://binaries.openttd.org/installer/opengfx-0.7.0.7z works 18:38:29 <Yexo> oh, that works indeed 18:38:40 <Ammler> from gb. 18:39:00 <Rubidium> so for some reason it can't follow the mirror's redirect 18:42:21 <peter1138> "GET /binaries/installer/opengfx-0.7.0.7z HTTP/1.1" 200 2842360 "-" "NSISDL/1.2 (Mozilla)" 18:42:28 <peter1138> NSISDL is the installer? 18:42:45 <Yexo> yes 18:42:58 <peter1138> it was working this morning then 18:43:13 <peter1138> though that might not've been beta3 18:43:16 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 18:44:28 <Yexo> beta2 doesn't work either 18:45:04 <Rubidium> there's someone on the forum that claims it doesn't work either 18:45:26 <Rubidium> although... that it worked for peter1138 might also be some transparent proxy "doing the right thing" 18:45:45 <peter1138> that's just the log, i never tried it myself 18:45:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r18887 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) 18:45:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 120 changes by Tvel 18:45:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: catalan - 4 changes by arnau 18:45:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: finnish - 2 changes by jpx_ 18:45:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 2 changes by glx 18:45:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by planetmaker 18:45:59 <peter1138> does 0.7.5 have the downloader too? 18:46:04 <glx> no 18:46:18 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 18:47:41 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18888 /trunk/src/table/ (sprites.h town_land.h): -Codechange: Rename PALETTE_59[EF] to something more meaningful. 18:49:26 *** cornjuliox [~lakdsj@122.53.119.140] has quit [] 18:49:58 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc4-newt30-2-0-cust18.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:28 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFB9B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:55 <SpComb^> curious how VS doesn't seem to offer any way to abort a running build 19:00:13 <Rubidium> it does, under the build thing (ctrl-break/end or something) 19:01:23 <SpComb^> although hmm, I'm really starting to think that VirtualBox is broken... "G:\...\objs\Win32\Release is not accessible. The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable." 19:01:45 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 19:01:52 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-3-231-206.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:02:33 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.160] has joined #openttd 19:03:16 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:03:24 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Nice Scotty, now beam my clothes up too!] 19:03:34 <devilsadvocate> hi, not sure if this is where i should be asking, but is the powerplant in the ECS newGRFs broken? the stantion nears it doesnt accept coal/oil... 19:04:48 <George> devilsadvocate: When? first 3 days of game - should not. Oil should not be accepted before 1950-th 19:05:09 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 19:05:11 <devilsadvocate> 1st Jan 1914 19:05:24 <George> game started in? 19:05:28 <devilsadvocate> it seems to accept only passengers :\ 19:05:32 <devilsadvocate> the same day 19:05:37 <devilsadvocate> oh, it takes 3 days 19:05:41 * devilsadvocate checks 19:05:49 <George> wait till 4-th of jan 19:05:54 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@81.135.85.113] has joined #openttd 19:05:59 <devilsadvocate> yep 19:06:02 <devilsadvocate> my bad 19:06:04 <devilsadvocate> thanks :) 19:06:21 <George> the same for the most of the industries 19:06:25 <devilsadvocate> also, is the japanese trainset capable of handling the cargoes in the ECS vectors? 19:06:36 <devilsadvocate> or should i get URKS as well 19:06:38 <George> I do not know 19:06:55 <devilsadvocate> i cant seem to find anything that says it can, so i suppose that means it cant 19:11:07 <SpComb^> unix2dos for msys: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/cygutils.htm - Binaries + Depedencies 19:21:33 *** JVassie^ [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:20 *** TrueBrain [91764884@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:25:34 <TrueBrain> glx / Ammler : probe 19:29:27 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a way to move a program from one display to another? 19:30:00 <TrueBrain> In linux? As in, from :1001 to :1002? 19:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 19:30:10 <TrueBrain> or do you want my catchy answer: with the mouse! :p 19:30:17 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:30:23 <TrueBrain> there are a few apps which can try to move applications, but most applications do not support it and segfault when you do 19:30:36 <TrueBrain> applications have to implement some X11 command, which most do no 19:30:37 <TrueBrain> t 19:30:52 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, ok... 19:31:43 <Eddi|zuHause> brb 19:31:46 <TrueBrain> can't remember the tool who could do it :( 19:31:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:28 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:45 <Eddi|zuHause> different approach, if i ssh -X into a computer, and open programs there, can i make it so the programs stay alive when i quit SSH, and reappear when i reconnect? 19:34:57 <TrueBrain> nope 19:35:05 <TrueBrain> most applications segfault if they can't communicate with the X11 anymore 19:35:16 <TrueBrain> you can try putting them to sleep (CTRL+Z) 19:35:19 <TrueBrain> some survive 19:35:21 <TrueBrain> most don't 19:35:31 <Eddi|zuHause> well, can't ssh keep alive the X server? 19:35:33 <TrueBrain> the only real solution I found was NoMachines NXServer 19:36:00 <TrueBrain> it fakes a whole X11 login, and forwards you the screen (in an efficient way) 19:36:09 <TrueBrain> an other solution would be VNCServer, but that is much more inefficient 19:36:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i should just throw mythtv on the box and put it somewhere i don't remember... 19:37:27 <Eddi|zuHause> ... i hate "bogus" progress bars that just go back and forth without displaying any actual progress... 19:38:48 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 19:40:40 * Eoin is now officially certified by Microsoft! 19:40:53 <TrueBrain> my condolances 19:41:05 <Eoin> heh 19:41:13 <TrueBrain> owh, you are proud at it? 19:41:16 <TrueBrain> sorry, my mistake 19:41:19 <Eoin> lol 19:41:30 <TrueBrain> can't imagine why .. but everyone his/her fun 19:42:04 <Eoin> well 19:42:13 <Eoin> it means i can say i acheived something from college 19:43:34 <TrueBrain> I wish I wouldn't receive an email with a complaint, and the two people who are referred in it to know more, not being here :p 19:43:50 <TrueBrain> all this trouble of joining this channel .. all the typing 19:43:50 <TrueBrain> :p :p 19:45:57 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:46:02 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 483 seconds] 19:53:54 <Eddi|zuHause> what's the complaint? 19:54:10 <TrueBrain> binaries balancer and windows installer 19:54:17 <TrueBrain> my guess is it doesn't understand HTTP Code 307 19:55:54 <Yexo> you miseed a few more complains when you in the time you left irc :p 19:56:27 <TrueBrain> I am sure I missed many more :) I only care about the ones people take the effort to let me know ;) 20:04:17 <SpComb^> xscreen 20:04:25 <SpComb^> some kind of persistent re-attachable XServer proxy 20:04:35 <SpComb^> should exist 20:04:44 <TrueBrain> any form of that fails more than it works 20:04:46 <SpComb^> (like, should exist in an ideal world) 20:05:18 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc35d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:13 *** Gremnon [~chatzilla@87.114.69.130.plusnet.thn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:23 <glx> [20:25:46] <TrueBrain> glx / Ammler : probe <-- yes ? 20:09:27 <TrueBrain> glx: you know more about windows installer issues? 20:09:31 <TrueBrain> (downloading stuff) 20:09:33 *** Gremnon [~chatzilla@87.114.69.130.plusnet.thn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has left #openttd [] 20:10:12 <glx> I just know it's an nsis plugin 20:10:39 <glx> and it used to work ;) 20:10:42 <TrueBrain> Rubidium told me it currently fails with the new balancer code, and that you might be able to help out testing? 20:11:32 <glx> yes I can test running the installer (but I'm fighting with a deadlock bug ;) ) 20:11:46 <TrueBrain> no rush 20:11:52 <SpComb^> I'd test it but my mouse cursor is broken 20:12:02 <TrueBrain> those windows users just wait :) Mwhaha ;) 20:12:26 *** Xaroth_ is now known as Xaroth 20:14:18 <peter1138> Eoin is "certified"? 20:14:28 *** Ruudjah [~rtimon@w236-87-28-81.dynamic.aerea.nl] has joined #openttd 20:14:35 <TrueBrain> peter1138: you got my requests yesterday? Mostly about changing the rdns of the ip? 20:14:45 <peter1138> nope 20:14:55 <TrueBrain> can you change the rdns from uk to gb.binaries.openttd.org 20:14:57 <Eoin> peter1138: IC3 lol 20:15:06 <peter1138> but but! 20:15:08 <peter1138> it's uk :( 20:15:10 <TrueBrain> we are phasing out 'uk.binaries.openttd' rather fast 20:15:19 <TrueBrain> GB is your landcode, sorry .. complain to ISO if you don't like it 20:15:31 *** Hackykid [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has joined #openttd 20:15:36 <TrueBrain> and I had another request, which I forgot ..... sad 20:15:45 <peter1138> hehe 20:16:27 <TrueBrain> <TrueBrain> peter1138: I didn't know if you wanted a link to you or your company or what ever for the mirror, so it just names your name for now. If you like to have that changed, please let me know. (refering to: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?uid=3036&f=29&t=46889&start=0 / http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mirror.txt / http://www.openttd.org/links 20:16:30 <TrueBrain> the grebs is nice 20:16:39 <peter1138> oh 20:16:41 <peter1138> no, not really 20:17:06 <TrueBrain> k :) 20:18:29 <Ammler> TrueBrain: I am no windows pro, can't help you more, just felt over it as I setup openttd on a windows..., back at KDE now, but if needed I can test again... 20:18:37 <andythenorth> hi hi 20:18:43 <TrueBrain> I need someone to test it a few times, so I can test different replies 20:21:59 <Ammler> Well, I can do that from vbox... 20:22:35 <Ammler> just ping :-) 20:22:46 <TrueBrain> well, go ahead :p 20:23:10 <peter1138> TrueBrain, done, btw 20:23:17 <TrueBrain> peter1138: tnx 20:24:47 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFB9B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:27:33 <SpComb^> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/client-side/svn-clean <-- tsk, and it isn't even a .sh script 20:28:23 <peter1138> excessive! 20:28:30 <TrueBrain> Ammler: and? 20:28:56 <SpComb^> ridiculous how people seem to expect you have some dying language such as Perl 5 installed! 20:29:17 <Ammler> TrueBrain: still 20:29:31 <Ammler> "Downloading of OpenGFX failed" 20:29:46 <TrueBrain> and now? 20:30:00 <Ammler> Downloading OpenSFX failed 20:30:02 <TrueBrain> owh, now it even fails in FF :p 20:30:34 <TrueBrain> now? 20:31:01 <Ammler> works, genious :-) 20:31:17 <TrueBrain> problem is I need to send a 301, not a 307 20:31:23 <TrueBrain> (perm, instead of temp) 20:31:33 <peter1138> nasty 20:31:58 <Eddi|zuHause> why does the phrase "now?" ... "and now?" ... cause the reaction of "DONKEY!!"? 20:31:59 <TrueBrain> Ammler: can you run it again? 20:32:02 <Yexo> detect the useragent of the installer and send a 301 in that case and 307 in all other cases? 20:32:14 <TrueBrain> Yexo: exactly my plan :) 20:32:42 <Ammler> hmm 20:32:42 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:55 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:33:00 <Ammler> now it was a bit other, it had a long timeout 20:33:06 <TrueBrain> yeah, was modifying 20:33:21 <TrueBrain> hit it again please 20:33:28 <Ammler> works 20:33:50 <TrueBrain> k, 301 for everything that starts with NSISDL in user-agent 20:33:54 <TrueBrain> 307 for all the other sane people in the world 20:34:14 <Eddi|zuHause> "other"? 20:34:22 <Eddi|zuHause> "sane"? 20:34:31 <TrueBrain> excluding Eddi|zuHause of course :) 20:34:32 <Ammler> maybe you can configure NSIS? 20:34:47 <TrueBrain> I think NSIS simply did not implement 307, but only 301 20:34:51 <TrueBrain> while they are of the same spec .. 20:35:02 <TrueBrain> bah, now the balance-tree has to retrain itself ... takes more than 24 hours :p 20:35:12 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:44 <TrueBrain> k, fine-tuned the algorithm a bit .. but so far it seems to work as intended :) 20:37:01 <TrueBrain> tnx Ammler 20:37:20 <TrueBrain> glx: problem already fixed ;) Good luck with your deadlock :( 20:37:29 <Ammler> I'm here to serve :-P 20:37:52 <TrueBrain> if only that was true 20:38:15 <TrueBrain> :p 20:38:16 <Ammler> and of course to request this and that... 20:40:07 <Ammler> btw. why I am redirected to gb, isn't nl closer? 20:40:47 <TrueBrain> nl no longer exist; and 'master' is being offloaded as much as possible 20:40:48 <Ammler> or is that "balancing" :-) 20:40:54 <TrueBrain> we should have a new nl by the end of next week 20:41:02 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-158-17.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:41:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought we have friday... 20:41:38 <TrueBrain> but even with it, you have a good chance ending up at a nearby mirror like GB or CZ 20:42:12 <Ammler> indeed, cz would also be nearer 20:42:29 <TrueBrain> CZ is much more loaded, so it offloads to GB :p 20:42:52 <TrueBrain> in the last 5 minutes, 27 requests were for CZ, 5 for GB (0 for NL/Master) 20:42:54 <Ammler> well done 20:43:24 <TrueBrain> I hope some mirror comes for Asia soon, so that traffic stays there too as much as possible 20:43:46 <TrueBrain> Australia would be nice too .. 20:45:06 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-72-99.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:07 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest264 20:45:07 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:45:41 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 20:45:43 <TrueBrain> http://paste.openttd.org/221001 <- last snapshot before reset. Meaning: country:load:requests:totalbandwidth 20:45:46 <Eddi|zuHause> could check the japanese forum if someone there can host a mirror? 20:45:59 <TrueBrain> feel free 20:46:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't speak japanese ;) 20:46:42 <TrueBrain> neither do I 20:47:01 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:47:07 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:07 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest265 20:47:08 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:47:14 <Eddi|zuHause> there might be a person in here that visited japan for a while :p 20:47:31 <TrueBrain> I think that person has enough other things to do 20:50:20 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:20 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest266 20:50:21 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:51:57 *** Guest264 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:37 *** Guest265 [~Dale@pool-71-98-72-99.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55:12 <SpComb^> svn revert -R "$wc" && for file in $(svn status "$wc" | grep -e '^?' | cut -b 9-); do rm -r "$file"; done 20:55:21 <SpComb^> perfectly safe, guaranteed not to delete anything important :) 20:57:38 *** Guest266 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:33 *** lennard [lennard@lennardk2.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 21:01:41 <lennard> hi! 21:01:45 <lennard> TrueBrain around? 21:01:48 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc35d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:59 <TrueBrain> more a rectangle 21:02:09 <Belugas> lol 21:02:15 <Belugas> good one :D 21:02:18 <lennard> *a*round, not round :P 21:02:29 <TrueBrain> I am not known for my reading 21:02:38 *** Hackykid [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:38 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: get ready to get to yer SS then :P 21:02:46 * lennard would like to have a not-so-slow chat about the whole mirror stuff in private if at all possible ;) 21:03:05 <lennard> mail can get so cumbersome ;) 21:03:11 <TrueBrain> feel free 21:03:40 <TrueBrain> and hello Belugas :) 21:04:16 <Belugas> hello my friend :) as i can see, you have not ost your humour over time ;) 21:05:38 <TrueBrain> never will ;) 21:06:43 <Belugas> hehe 21:07:54 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 21:09:22 *** JurrienK [~JurrienK@84-106-105-62.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:12:03 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:12:34 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 21:12:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 21:13:26 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:13:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.221.174] has joined #openttd 21:14:45 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc4-newt30-2-0-cust18.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:20:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.198.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:21:40 <TrueBrain> all gives a good hand to lennard for trying to get us a NL mirror :) 21:21:57 * lennard bows 21:22:24 *** amiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:23:20 <TrueBrain> boring crowd here tonight .. 21:23:25 <lennard> also, your topic is weird 21:23:39 <lennard> but I'm sure y'all knew that 21:23:42 <TrueBrain> why? 21:24:12 <lennard> its formatting suggest a list of key->value pairs, but I don't see sense in it 21:24:13 <Eoin> Hmm 21:24:21 <Xaroth> because there's that many subdomains :P 21:24:21 <lennard> unless the al are values for * 21:24:24 <lennard> that might make sense 21:24:26 <lennard> all* 21:24:27 <Xaroth> ye 21:24:28 <TrueBrain> ;) 21:24:32 <Eoin> IPv6, this company want to hurry up and set me up a tunnel :D 21:24:58 <lennard> don't try to hurry sixxs, they'll smell it and make you wait :P 21:25:07 <TrueBrain> and some cocky people work there :s 21:25:11 <lennard> yup 21:25:13 <TrueBrain> tried to get an OpenTTD account and a personal account 21:25:19 <TrueBrain> after 7 mails, he still didn't understand 21:25:22 <lennard> very knowledgeable, too, but cocky 21:25:23 <TrueBrain> (or didn't want to) 21:25:46 <TrueBrain> I am happy to say OpenTTD now runs native IPv6, so I don't have to deal with that anymore :) 21:25:54 <lennard> are you sure you really want to do openttd-stuff over... right, that 21:26:04 <lennard> I wouldnt risk non-native for 'production' 21:26:18 <lennard> well, that is to say, I wouldn't advise it, I still do it myself 21:26:22 <TrueBrain> LeaseWeb was so nice to connect us as one of the first :) 21:26:37 <lennard> they can be nice if they want to :) 21:26:43 <TrueBrain> They are mostly nice to us :) 21:28:04 <Eoin> <DJ_Danni> Hey when i try to run Tycoon i get error in DPLAY.DLL 21:28:04 <fjb> Maybe they use OpenTTD to simulate their network. 21:28:12 <Eoin> DJ_Danni ask in the openttd channel :) 21:28:26 <Xaroth> I think LeaseWeb has bigger fish than ottd :P 21:28:38 <TrueBrain> I sure they do; still, they treat us nice :) 21:28:38 *** Bjelleklang [~Bjellekla@212.125.206.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:43 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:56 <lennard> yeah.. you do know its just because they love to play ttd, right? :) 21:29:13 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:15 <TrueBrain> pretty sure they do :) 21:29:19 <peter1138> who doesn't? 21:29:29 <Xaroth> people with no sense of awesome 21:34:39 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:36:11 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 21:36:33 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:54 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 21:38:57 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@81.135.85.113] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:43:42 *** Ruudjah [~rtimon@w236-87-28-81.dynamic.aerea.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:52:34 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18889 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Use (GroundSprite|SpriteLayout)PaletteTransform() also for drawing of default industries. They are compatible since the bubblegenerator is also randomly recoloured. 21:57:43 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:08 <Terkhen> good night 21:59:10 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 22:11:39 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 22:13:59 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:15:06 <Wolf01> 'night 22:15:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host13-161-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:15:30 <Xaroth> Rubidium: you almost had him killed :P 22:16:13 <Belugas> bye bye! 22:17:02 <Xaroth> o/ Belugas 22:17:12 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:32 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:20:13 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 22:20:50 <peter1138> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Indian_Pacific_Perth,_Western_Australia.jpg 22:21:09 <Eddi|zuHause> why did nobody ever complain that the bubble generator was changed from original TTD behaviour? :p 22:21:21 <peter1138> that would require railtypes with no engine 22:21:39 <peter1138> s/complain/notice/ ? 22:24:04 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:30:33 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:56 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc35d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:32 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc4-newt30-2-0-cust18.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:45 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-3-231-206.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 22:32:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18890 /trunk/src/unmovable_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Unify drawing of foundations for MP_UNMOVABLE. 22:33:35 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: because sirkoz only plays temperate 22:37:12 *** JurrienK [~JurrienK@84-106-105-62.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:40:43 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:40:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4360.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:34 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@j104051.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:57 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:46:22 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 22:48:55 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 22:51:07 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:52:02 *** HeavenRaiser [~Orangutan@201.171.32.6.dsl.dyn.telnor.net] has joined #openttd 22:53:51 *** roboboy [724af5d4@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:53:57 <SpComb^> hmm... findversion.sh's CLEAN_VER still includes the 'M' flag? 22:55:03 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:46 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@73.69.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:56:09 <SpComb^> what zip binary does the Makefile.bundle.in use? 22:56:33 <Rubidium> zip? 22:56:54 <SpComb^> http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/zip.htm <-- this? 22:57:11 <Eddi|zuHause> whichever is in the path, i presume... 22:57:17 <Rubidium> @kb HeavenRaiser 22:57:22 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Orangutan@*.171.32.6.dsl.dyn.telnor.net] by Rubidium 22:57:22 *** HeavenRaiser was kicked from #openttd by Rubidium [HeavenRaiser] 22:57:30 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Administr@89.246.221.*] by Rubidium 22:57:56 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 22:59:15 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*Administr@89.246.221.*] by Rubidium 23:01:20 *** Bjelleklang [~Bjellekla@19.80-202-156.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:01:36 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:01:44 <Rubidium> sorry for banning you HerzogDeXtEr; didn't see feedback from banning Heavnraiser and tab completion kinda failed 23:03:26 *** roboboy [724af5d4@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 23:05:17 <Muxy> @seen petert 23:05:17 <DorpsGek> Muxy: petert was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 22 hours, 7 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <PeterT> No what? 23:06:35 *** ColdIce [Mihai@188.26.154.89] has joined #openttd 23:07:48 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiw41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:48 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226212162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:10:29 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj189.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 23:11:24 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:12:03 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ OK ATH OK] 23:12:16 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 23:12:32 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:12:47 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:51 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 23:21:13 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:17 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj189.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 23:25:14 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25:58 <SpComb^> it would be convenient if findversion.sh also printed out the plain rev/branch without the 'M' as a fifth param 23:27:06 <SpComb^> also very annoying... findversion.sh takes the "Last changed Rev:" off the src\ dir, so if there's a rev that doesn't touch src/, it ignores it... 23:27:18 <SpComb^> but I guess that's intentional? 23:27:35 <Rubidium> yes, that's intentional 23:27:44 <Rubidium> because the network protocol doesn't change between them 23:28:18 <SpComb^> myes 23:29:30 <Rubidium> but a modified branch, what are you using that for? 23:29:50 <SpComb^> not using a branch 23:30:13 <SpComb^> I just mean it'd be useful to get a "this build was based off rXXXXX" rev for my use-case 23:30:42 <SpComb^> http://yzzrt.qmsk.net/~terom/openttd/scripts/build.sh 23:31:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:24 <Rubidium> use the 2nd one 23:31:31 <Rubidium> that way it works for mercurial stuff too 23:32:19 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 23:33:52 <SpComb^> true, didn't quite see that one 23:39:42 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:44:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:45:40 *** TrueBrain [91764884@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: night] 23:47:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.221.174] has joined #openttd 23:48:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.221.174] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:29 *** Sweet|Home [~Sweet@cpc3-port7-0-0-cust724.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:51:18 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:04 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... but somehow computer A can output its sound on computer B via network, right? 23:55:32 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18891 /trunk/src/spriteloader/png.cpp: -Fix: Avoid duplicate path separator when searching for PNG files which prevented tar-lookups. 23:55:48 *** Sweet|Home^ [~Sweet@cpc3-port7-0-0-cust724.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:55 <SpComb^> Eddi|zuHause: pulseaudio 23:56:15 <SpComb^> Eddi|zuHause: ah, I get it, you're trying to use your old computer as a headless server :) 23:56:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yes ;) 23:56:38 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9AA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der bläht, als hinterster geht!] 23:56:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i should probably just forget it, but the problem is the DVB-S card doesn't fit in the new one 23:57:04 <SpComb^> what I do is run mocp/spotify over ssh on my headless server (hooked up to speakers) 23:57:16 <Eddi|zuHause> (they advertised a PCI slot, but it's blocked by the GPU fan) 23:58:20 <Eddi|zuHause> and the fan seems very loud... 23:59:16 *** roboboy [6e1417e8@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd