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00:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but i dislike that... 00:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> imho, local authorities should disallow clearing trees if the rating is too low 00:01:06 <zachanima> well I am just talking about clearing houses now 00:01:24 <zachanima> and planting trees/bribing to that end 00:03:27 <zachanima> in short, I just wanted to know whether I ought to make a bit of space for the stations in the scenario, or let that be handled at playtime 00:09:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76DCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:09:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75D74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:09:34 <PeterT> Eddi|zuHause needs a bouncer 00:09:47 <PeterT> Eddi|zuHause: Do you want one? You can get a free one at rdlBNC.com 00:10:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i need a connection that is not immediately congested by one single download... 00:10:30 *** Wintersoldier [~davidclam@c-24-5-19-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Wintersoldier] 00:10:39 <Eddi|zuHause> also, that was just the regular 24h disconnect, i'm not sure why i'd need a bouncer for that... 00:24:04 <SpComb^> "free bouncer" ... 00:24:48 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26:05 <PeterT> It is free 00:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> tanstaafb? 00:30:48 *** mirQus_ is now known as mirQus 00:36:22 <__ln__> ... as a free bjarni? 00:36:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that, too ;) 00:38:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19300 /branches/1.0/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 00:38:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.0] -Backport from trunk: 00:38:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Return the TTD airport type in station var 0xF1 (r19299) 00:38:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Segfault when station vars 0xF2/0xF3 is accessed when there is no truck/bus stop (r19298) 00:38:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] Some methods of AIAbstractList left invalid iterators [FS#3566] (r19293) 00:38:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [YAPP] If reversing at path signals was disabled, a train would not reverse when hitting the back of an one-way signal (r19286) 00:38:28 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.0] -Update: Intro game 00:38:38 <PeterT> Intro game? 00:39:03 * PeterT goes to the forums, and is glad it isn't 8:00 PM 00:39:20 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean 2AM 00:39:47 <Eddi|zuHause> speaking of which, when is the switch to summer time again? 00:40:05 <Rubidium> good question 00:40:09 <PeterT> sc79 won :S 00:40:32 <Eddi|zuHause> which of the last three is that? 00:40:34 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: TZ="CET-1CEST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0/3 <- that says when 00:42:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i can't read that... 00:42:02 <glx> last weekend of march IIRC 00:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i once though it should be the first weekend in spring (after 21st march) and the first weekend in fall (after 23rd september) 00:44:45 <Eddi|zuHause> but i think that is not entirely accurate 00:44:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:45:22 <Rubidium> definitely, cause it's late october (at least, that's what I can remember) 00:45:42 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EBA13.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:46:05 <Eddi|zuHause> it's different in america 00:46:32 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, every year 00:46:44 <Rubidium> except in like Arizona or so 00:47:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, except in one native territory within arizona 00:47:11 <__ln__> just think about the effect that daylight saving time has on the amount of sunlight trees and other plants get in the US. 00:47:26 <Eddi|zuHause> except in one other native territory within that native territorry 00:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: yeah, we could totally fight global warming if we had one hour less sunshine during the summer! 00:49:47 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Wintersoldier] 06:28:21 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 06:29:07 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has left #openttd [] 06:29:38 <Lestat> HI 06:30:08 <Lestat> someone?? 06:36:15 *** Lestat [~Lestat@187.233.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43:04 *** awox [~alex@gaww.net] has joined #openttd 06:43:08 <awox> G'day everyone. 06:43:59 <awox> I was wondering if anyone here knew of any easily obtained off-line documentation for OpenTTD? I mean, apart from scraping the wiki is there anything else out there I could use for reference (railway stuff especially?)? :) 06:44:13 <awox> Loving the hell out of OpenTTD, but no internets at home to hit the wiki up :D 06:51:09 *** tuinnn [~t@ip9135153a.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:53:09 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 06:55:21 *** Splex [~splex@n219079154028.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:11:36 *** PeterT [~PeterT@rdlbnc.com] has joined #openttd 07:13:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:18:24 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-52-229.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22:48 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:25:05 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-52-229.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:25:13 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:28:23 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:33:44 <planetmaker> morning 07:34:00 <roboboy> evning 07:34:30 * roboboy wonders if he can get a generic TRIDENT driver for DOS 07:38:03 *** Splex [~splex@n219079154028.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 07:38:32 <planetmaker> awox: Probably your best bet for offline documentation is indeed to wget the wiki, making it available for offline use. 07:40:52 *** heffer [~felix@mue-88-130-114-117.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 07:41:23 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 07:45:43 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host86-147-226-93.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.] 07:49:09 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d8b1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 07:52:00 * roboboy sraps the idea of looking for graphics card drivers 07:52:17 <roboboy> I got OpenTTD to run under DOS 5 07:52:20 <roboboy> brb 07:54:49 <Rubidium> awox: the problem with our wiki is that it's kinda (mis)used by those 32bpp zoom graphics people, i.e. the wiki is huge 07:54:59 <awox> heh 07:55:56 <awox> wget and httrack dont convert links properly for mediawiki, or I am doing it wrong :( 07:56:48 <Rubidium> basically the wiki wouldn't fit on a CD 07:57:05 <awox> hmn 07:57:41 <awox> I guess I'll just save the relevant pages each separately and mirror it when I can drive httrack properly :D 07:58:10 <awox> are there still os x issues? 07:58:52 <awox> (I mean, I only read something on the main page - I have been playing an old, old version all this time) 08:08:32 <Rubidium> awox: there're still too many OS X (related) issues for it to get an official 1.0.0 release 08:10:47 * roboboy is happy with his hour or so work getting DOS 5 set up and runing (O)TT(O)(D)(P) 08:12:26 * roboboy got OpenTTD to run under MS-DOS5 with minimal configuration of DOS 08:14:42 <Rubidium> so it actually works :) 08:14:44 <Rubidium> nice! 08:14:50 <roboboy> yep 08:15:05 * roboboy shall try and get a screenie 08:15:54 <roboboy> one thing. It didn't exit cleanly 08:15:59 <roboboy> or it didn't seem to 08:19:27 * peter1138 puts the warning back on 32bpp extra zoom levels on the wiki 08:22:03 <roboboy> hm screenshots under DOS fail both pcx and bmp. might be my computer 08:23:48 *** Goulp [~Goulp@ip163.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 08:26:02 <roboboy> ive left the machine whilst in the process of quiting (I clicked quit on the main menu) and it has gone quiet except for the noise the fan makes so I presume it isn't going to quit cleanly under DOS 08:26:05 <peter1138> roboboy, you get an error? 08:26:16 <peter1138> might just be the screenshot filename is too long? 08:26:31 <roboboy> aha 08:26:49 <roboboy> I get screenshot failed in a TTD error box 08:28:14 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest419 08:28:14 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:28:15 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 08:28:35 <roboboy> I also get what I think is an AI eror that flashes up just before the game enters graphical mode. I presume that is because the compatibility .nut files have filenames that are too long to be loaded 08:29:00 *** boekabart_away is now known as boekabart 08:29:06 * roboboy restarts his DOS machine and tries to save a game to see if it will fail 08:29:28 <boekabart> Hmm 08:29:45 <boekabart> the trac 'download as zip' function doesn't seem to work 08:30:03 <boekabart> (on the openttd site that is). Is that by design? 08:32:21 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has joined #openttd 08:32:35 <peter1138> we don't use trac 08:32:36 <peter1138> it's just there 08:32:38 <Rubidium> boekabart: it probably uses too much memory 08:33:20 <peter1138> Rubidium, no, just a missing module 08:33:55 <Rubidium> peter1138: are you really sure? I've set it to be killed quite soon if it's memory usage spikes 08:34:03 <roboboy> trying to save gives me the eror "Game Load Failed File not Writeable" in a TTD eror box 08:34:09 <Rubidium> as otherwise it just keeps on using and using memory 08:34:20 <Rubidium> roboboy: and if you make the filename short enough? 08:34:28 <peter1138> Trac detected an internal error: 08:34:28 <peter1138> RuntimeError: Compression requires the (missing) zlib module 08:34:35 <peter1138> seems pretty exact 08:34:36 <roboboy> ok 08:35:09 <roboboy> so the name provided in the save/load box is the actual filename without the extension? 08:35:17 <peter1138> yes 08:35:17 *** Guest419 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:23 <roboboy> nice 08:35:33 <boekabart> well trac might be 'not used' but it's linked to from the main page (dev section) .. 08:36:38 *** Jobsoft [joost@veyron.bosch-media.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:36:52 <nicfer> New rail types is only for railroads right? 08:37:07 <peter1138> rail being rail, you'd expect that 08:37:38 <roboboy> that fixed it 08:38:47 <roboboy> and exiting from within a runing savegame also doesnt work 08:38:57 <roboboy> no eror just a hung computer 08:39:11 <roboboy> that doesn't appear to be doing any work 08:39:12 <Rubidium> there... trac issue 'fixed' 08:39:23 <peter1138> :D 08:39:29 <Rubidium> (bye bye zip link) 08:39:57 <nicfer> And could that be expanded to roads? 08:40:26 <roboboy> also the game reports that there are zero kilobytes available in the save dir 08:40:54 <peter1138> no, roads are different to rails 08:42:14 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has left #openttd [] 08:42:34 <roboboy> I have not tested music yet under DOS 08:43:12 *** Jobsoft [joost@veyron.bosch-media.nl] has joined #openttd 08:44:11 * roboboy wonders what chipset the onboard sound is on his DOS machine 08:44:12 <Rubidium> roboboy: it's quite likely that not everything works; after all, the only major porting is getting it to compile. 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We'll probably just say: "install long filename support"; I seem to remember that exists somewhere. 13:53:11 <roboboy> ok 13:53:35 <Rubidium> the Allegro issue is probably something in Allegro itself; it works fine with the Unix variant 13:53:50 <roboboy> what about the fact it doesnt exit cleanly and leaves my computer hung 13:54:07 <Rubidium> roboboy: that's likely an allegro issue 13:54:14 <roboboy> ok 13:54:38 <Rubidium> and "it works" in Dosbox, which kinda implies it's something driver related 13:55:08 <Rubidium> in other words: the bugs will be like the mac os x bugs 13:55:08 <peter1138> does long filename support exist for dos? 13:55:51 <peter1138> hmm, dos 7 13:56:29 <Rubidium> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_filename <- seems to imply there's a driver for dos 13:58:07 <peter1138> and does openttd support it when compiled for dos? 13:58:58 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> DOS TT(D) used short filenames and stored the 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18:35:58 <peter1138> wtf 18:36:11 <Eddi|zuHause> "luckily" all my seagate problems were of a different kind... 18:38:11 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@122.106.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 18:38:46 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 18:39:46 <__ln__> Sacro: yeah, and some serious effort put into making the video 18:39:57 <Sacro> Indeed, and such a wonderful soundtrack 18:42:57 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:44:29 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@100.154.206-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:46:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r19302 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) 18:46:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:46:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by planetmaker 18:46:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: italian - 41 changes by lorenzodv 18:46:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: korean - 1 changes by junho2813 18:46:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: malay - 19 changes by Kwokfu 18:46:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: serbian - 18 changes by etran 18:46:05 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, you can use a sledge hammer 18:46:22 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... right, that was the word... 18:47:19 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: ptr_] 18:49:11 <Belugas> naaaa... that was the song 18:49:22 <Belugas> but that could be the word too :) 18:50:43 * peter1138 puts PG on 18:51:04 <peter1138> oops, the start is supposed to be quiet 18:52:58 <peter1138> # open up your fruit cage 18:56:43 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s5591a1ba.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:58:20 *** Sacro [~Sacro@150.237.48.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:56 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:14:40 <Belugas> :D 19:17:56 <dih> â« 19:19:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host21-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:19:17 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host86-147-226-93.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:21:24 <Wolf01> hello 19:27:49 <Belugas> hello mister Wolf01 19:28:15 <Belugas> damned... quite a high wolume of W wames :S 19:28:24 <Wolf01> hello my friend :D 19:31:12 <Wolf01> my old access point is tfu :( 19:32:38 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:37:07 *** Hackykid_ [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has joined #openttd 19:37:13 *** Hackykid [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:53 <PeterT> Noooooo, an opntitle.dat in the global directory does not take priority over an opntitle.dat in the local /data dir :-( 19:54:22 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:11:11 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 20:12:17 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.214] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 20:15:41 *** heffer [~felix@ip-88-152-182-156.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 20:18:25 *** Sacro [~ben@94-116-82-146.dynamic.thecloud.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:40 *** ajmiles2 [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:25:54 *** _newage_ [~victor@15.Red-79-159-152.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 20:26:52 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 20:28:25 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-137-99.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:28:36 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:29:12 *** jpx_ [jpx_@e83-245-150-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:32 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:58 *** jpx_ [jpx_@e83-245-150-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:31:18 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r19303 /trunk/src/newgrf_airport.h: -Codechange: Silence a gcc warning. 20:32:12 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-234-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Something strange must have happened...] 20:46:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BBFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:31 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:53:11 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:00:36 *** ajmiles2 [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:16 *** Sacro [~ben@94-116-82-146.dynamic.thecloud.net] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 21:14:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-60-177.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:14:10 *** Hackykid [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has joined #openttd 21:15:33 <Wolf01> 'night 21:15:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host21-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:17:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BBFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:13 *** Hackykid_ [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:14 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EB493.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:35:59 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fff25.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:49 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-137-99.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:52:41 * andythenorth has an evil thought: if the BROS grf ever does get finished, maybe FIRS, HEQS and FISH will deactivate themselves if it's loaded. 21:52:46 <andythenorth> they are such silly puppies 21:53:07 *** lolman [~Holygoat@cust247-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:54:09 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 22:01:11 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@222.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:12 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@222.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 22:07:08 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 22:11:41 <Belugas> bye 22:12:32 <Rubidium> till the hello tomorrow :) 22:18:18 <planetmaker> has an evil thought: if the BROS grf ever does get finished, maybe FIRS, HEQS and FISH will deactivate themselves if it's loaded. <-- lool :-P 22:27:22 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s5591a1ba.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]] 22:28:26 <Terkhen> good night 22:28:32 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@222.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 22:29:46 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 22:31:40 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EB493.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36:44 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:42:44 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:08 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D953B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 22:45:44 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:49 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:49:56 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 22:53:14 <PeterT> Anyone have any suggestions on GRFs for arctic games? 22:57:48 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:17 <SpComb^> PeterT: alpinew.grf :) 22:58:27 <PeterT> Ok :-) 23:00:04 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:02:18 <PeterT> What's a good train set for use with arctic? 23:05:17 <SpComb^> ...DBSetXL :P 23:05:23 <fjb> For an alpine setting I would recommend something German, Swiss or Austrian. 23:05:35 <fjb> :-) 23:05:44 <PeterT> andythenorth: I've downloaded FISH 0.2, but it's not recognized by OpenTTD 23:06:08 <PeterT> Only FISH 0.1, FISH r159, FISH r223, FISH r245M 23:07:12 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: tried rescanning for grfs? 23:07:24 <PeterT> Thanks 23:08:13 <fjb> You don't really need a ship set for an alpine setting. 23:09:35 <OwenS> Ooh, new OkTrends blog post 23:09:35 *** luk3Z [~chatzilla@adll27.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:00 <Eddi|zuHause> OwenS: why would we care about some random blog? 23:10:25 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: It's the data mining blog of OKCupid. As they're pulling in thousands of users, it's quite revealing of mankind as a whole :p 23:10:46 <Eddi|zuHause> OwenS: why would we care about some random blog? 23:10:57 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: Because it's interesting :p 23:11:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: glx * r19304 /trunk/src/sound/win32_s.cpp: -Fix [FS#3652]: disable sound when a sound error happen instead crashing 23:12:07 <OwenS> It also shows that lots of "common knowledge" is wrong :P 23:12:23 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-213-249-237-253.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:19:04 <TrueBrain> @kick Xaroth see 23:19:04 *** Xaroth was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [see] 23:19:08 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 23:19:10 <Xaroth> <3 TrueBrain 23:19:22 * TrueBrain humps Xaroth 23:19:26 * Xaroth humps TrueBrain 23:23:11 <PeterT> get a room 23:23:43 <TrueBrain> we have one; but you are in it! 23:23:49 <Xaroth> yeha 23:24:21 <Xaroth> wait, if he's in our room, does that mean we can duct-tape him to the ceiling? 23:24:33 * TrueBrain gives Xaroth duct-tape 23:24:34 <PeterT> Of course. 23:24:37 <Xaroth> woot 23:24:44 * Xaroth duct-tapes PeterT to the ceiling 23:24:49 <Xaroth> face up, ofcourse 23:24:55 <PeterT> oh :-( 23:24:56 <Xaroth> else he'd be the reincarnation of ceiling cat 23:25:10 <PeterT> You are in quite a crowded room to be humping 23:25:15 <Xaroth> so? 23:25:36 <Xaroth> it now has one less person looking, seeing all you can see now is the ceiling 23:25:37 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 23:26:02 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 23:26:53 <OwenS> And yet again this is #not-openttd 23:27:24 <TrueBrain> your point being? 23:27:36 <OwenS> This channel is weird :-P 23:27:45 <TrueBrain> no, you are weird! (pointing a strong finger to OwenS) 23:27:58 <PeterT> Perhaps this channel is normal, and you are weird 23:28:05 <PeterT> What TrueBrain said 23:28:09 <KenjiE20> wait, IRC channels are supposed to be on topic? 23:28:22 <TrueBrain> topic? 23:28:26 <OwenS> KenjiE20: I trust you've never been to freenode XD 23:28:40 <Xaroth> that sounds like a disease, OwenS 23:28:54 <PeterT> He is there right now, OwenS 23:29:10 <PeterT> Not connected to any channels, apparently 23:29:27 <glx> IIRC #tycoon is more often not on topic than we are 23:29:44 <TrueBrain> we should keep stats about that :) 23:30:25 <glx> freenode is more stable now :) 23:30:43 <PeterT> The 's' in 'Unauthorised' is bothering me 23:31:02 <glx> it's english 23:31:09 <PeterT> Quick! @topic change -2 s/thoris/thoriz/ 23:31:22 <glx> z is not english 23:31:24 <PeterT> It's British English *shudder* 23:31:28 <Rubidium> #openttd.notice is on-topic 23:31:35 <TrueBrain> it always is 23:31:37 <OwenS> PeterT: No, it's English. What you speak is American English 23:32:08 <PeterT> TrueBrain just pwned the system. 23:32:32 <PeterT> OwenS: You just missed it 23:32:38 <OwenS> Heh 23:32:46 <OwenS> I was going there to check if it was moderated :p 23:33:42 <PeterT> <DorpsGek> oh no, someone talked here <-- DorpsGek always talks anyway :-P 23:34:09 <SpComb^> sockpuppet 23:37:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75D74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:01 * DorpsGek stays off-topic 23:41:39 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:42:55 <DorpsGek> to kick or not kick, that is the question 23:44:06 <PeterT> that's a good question 23:44:11 <OwenS> To kick who? 23:44:31 <PeterT> keep up 23:45:08 <__ln__> OwenS: isn't that supposed to be "whom"? 23:46:05 <OwenS> I think technically yes 23:47:42 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@122.106.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 23:48:15 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:51:55 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:52:03 *** fjb is now known as Guest485 23:52:04 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CBB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:53:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BBFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:23 *** Guest485 [~frank@p5485DDC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:31 *** PeterT_ [~PeterT@c-24-34-95-53.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:53:49 *** PeterT_ [~PeterT@c-24-34-95-53.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7552D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd