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Log for #openttd on 29th September 2010:
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00:14:43  <Ammler> any reason, you don't use grfcodec -c for openttd.grf?
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00:20:07  <Eddi|zuHause> Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x209ef3fc in 32-bit code (0x0079408d).
00:20:13  <Eddi|zuHause> that's what i was afraid of...
00:20:37  <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: what?
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00:21:56  <Ammler> grfcodec -s -e -m1 $(OBJS_DIR)/openttd.grf from Makefile.grf.in
00:22:26  <Eddi|zuHause> and what does -c do?
00:23:58  <Ammler> crop unneded blue
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00:24:43  <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: afair there was something about foundation sprites getting garbled when using -c
00:25:13  <Eddi|zuHause> not sure if that ever applied to openttd, though
00:25:21  <Ammler> yes, it does
00:25:38  <Ammler> we disabled cropping per sprite on ogfx
00:26:47  <Eddi|zuHause> if you can specify cropping for each sprite, isn't the -c switch then redundant?
00:33:35  <Ammler> you don't for every sprite, only those which don't work, like foundations
00:33:50  <Ammler> or some other transparency things like stations
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05:51:32  <Terkhen> good morning
05:54:44  <Chrill> mornin
05:54:46  <Chrill> evening
05:54:49  <Chrill> Terkhen is European?
05:55:06  <Terkhen> yes, I'm from Spain
05:55:09  <Chrill> ah
05:55:11  <Chrill> hola :)
05:55:32  <Terkhen> hi
05:56:03  <Chrill> I studied Spanish for four years in school
05:56:07  <Chrill> and all I remember is hola :D
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06:19:25  <Terkhen> hmmm... I hate when the terms of use of something change
06:19:39  <Chrill> which terms have changed for you?
06:20:20  <Terkhen> bitbucket
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07:05:31  <dihedral> morning
07:08:03  <Terkhen> good morning dihedral
07:08:22  <dihedral> :-)
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09:01:27  <planetmaker> good morning
09:01:49  <planetmaker> I see a nice Fix FS#3637 :-)
09:02:25  <fjb> Moin
09:06:05  <planetmaker> moin :-)
09:06:33  <planetmaker> fjb: as in answer to your yesterday's question: it was rather about real-world. But was an extremely good talk
09:07:04  <planetmaker> Turned out actually by the guy who was the project manager in the DOD back in 1972 when the design of GPS was written and fixed
09:07:41  <planetmaker> so basically by one of the fathers of it :-)
09:08:46  <planetmaker> hm... Feature: NewObject: GroundStation: reduces air plane crashes in the vicinity by ... whatever percentage :-)
09:08:48  <planetmaker> :-P
09:09:05  <planetmaker> costs... 100M
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09:14:26  <fjb> I asked a question yesterday?
09:14:33  <fjb> Oh, that question.
09:14:39  <fjb> Sounds interesting.
09:15:24  <planetmaker> It was the evening's highlight lecture ;-)
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09:24:00  <SmatZ> hello planetmaker
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09:24:44  <planetmaker> hello SmatZ :-)
09:25:20  <SmatZ> are you in Prague?
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09:25:25  <SmatZ> with internet? :)
09:25:32  <planetmaker> yes :-)
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09:25:58  <planetmaker> mostly it works at the congress centre. Not always and everywhere, but yeah :-)
09:26:03  <SmatZ> :)
09:26:25  <planetmaker> I think they want one to pay in the other places as pay-wifi is available everywhere
09:27:08  <planetmaker> (which probably is the deal with the telecom: install everywhere and we give you customers, but give us two spots free wifi)
09:28:00  <planetmaker> Did you get my e-mail, SmatZ ?
09:29:35  <SmatZ> planetmaker: now, yes :)
09:29:58  <planetmaker> :-)
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10:11:30  <planetmaker> should openttd's command line help only show available drivers?
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10:12:32  <SmatZ> I think it shows compiled drivers
10:13:28  <planetmaker> hm, ok, that might be the issue. As I can start (and compile) libtimidity, but get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrononauts
10:13:49  <SmatZ> Chrononauts ?
10:14:05  <planetmaker> err. "No such sound driver: libtimidity
10:14:07  <Eddi|zuHause> wrong paste, i presume ;)
10:14:08  <SmatZ> :D
10:14:10  <planetmaker> c&p fail ;-)
10:15:01  <planetmaker> besides... I think the explanation is wrong: "Most likely you are missing files from the original TTD" :-D
10:15:11  <planetmaker> I definitely don't
10:15:30  <planetmaker> r20857
10:16:16  <planetmaker> hm... OSX bug :-)
10:16:32  <SmatZ> $ bin/openttd -m libtimidity
10:16:33  <SmatZ> Error: No such music driver: libtimidity
10:16:34  <SmatZ> :)
10:16:48  <avdg> :p
10:16:48  <planetmaker> -s :-)
10:17:08  <SmatZ> try -m extmidi
10:17:37  <planetmaker> both should work, no? List of music drivers:
10:17:39  <planetmaker>              cocoa: Cocoa MIDI Driver
10:17:41  <planetmaker>        libtimidity: LibTimidity MIDI Driver
10:17:42  <planetmaker>            extmidi: External MIDI Driver
10:17:44  <planetmaker>               null: Null Music Driver
10:17:58  <SmatZ> I don't know
10:18:00  <SmatZ> no OSX here :)
10:18:20  <planetmaker> yep... it has un-updated strings, I see
10:18:55  <planetmaker> but... first some lunch :-)
10:19:12  <SmatZ> :)
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10:21:19  <avdg> lol, my player is looping
10:21:51  <avdg> looks like -m extmidi doesn't work here
10:22:51  <avdg> hmm, after restart and no options and I have sound :p
10:23:25  <SmatZ> :)
10:23:46  <avdg> looks like fun, hopefully not buggy
10:24:24  <SmatZ> player is looping when there is some problem with the output
10:24:28  <SmatZ> maybe when it doesn't work
10:24:38  <SmatZ> I don't exactly remember why it happens :)
10:25:05  <avdg> donno how it works
10:25:13  <avdg> :p
10:25:38  <avdg> maybe its returning something like "I'm done" while its just started
10:26:17  <avdg> <3 midi player
10:26:26  <planetmaker> ok... quick look, quick patch: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4143 - and now I'm really hungry ;-)
10:26:28  <avdg> less boring :p
10:26:35  <avdg> :p
10:26:39  <SmatZ> enjoy, planetmaker :)
10:28:19  <avdg> hmm, these new songs sounds kinda "loopy" while the original songs more had a melody
10:28:29  <avdg> but thats a quick examination
10:32:24  <Rubidium> OS X specific patch? How likely is it that is going to backfire...
10:32:43  <avdg> donno :p
10:33:28  <avdg> I didn't like the touchpath patch, now I can only think at testing
10:40:29  * avdg is hungry too
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11:00:04  <dihedral> "most likely" does not start for a fact, but a useful hint - i.e. perhaps 90% of the cases this error would be correct?
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11:21:53  <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: but wouldn't missing files be caught by the .obm?
11:22:23  <Eddi|zuHause> likely the error message is older than that, and wasn't updated
11:22:36  <dihedral> uh - that could very well be true :-)
11:24:43  <planetmaker> that's quite well true :-)
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11:26:18  <planetmaker> hg blame tells me hg revision 17706
11:26:25  <planetmaker> s/hg/svn/
11:27:46  <Ammler> planetmaker: listen :-P
11:28:56  <Ammler> majonaise, how do I mount a samba share with debian?
11:29:07  <planetmaker> ?
11:29:17  <Eddi|zuHause> mount -t cifs?
11:29:26  <Ammler> is that still smbfs
11:29:28  <Rubidium> smbmount?
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11:29:43  <Eddi|zuHause> cifs is the successor to smbfs
11:30:26  <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: seems like debian asks for time travelling :-)
11:30:34  <planetmaker> mount -t smbfs /dev/whatever
11:30:57  <Rubidium> though why use SMB?
11:31:46  <Ammler> I guess, I just need to install the packages, debian howtos do also talk about cifs
11:31:53  <planetmaker> which is an alias :-)
11:32:22  <Ammler> Rubidium: the backupserver does allow ftp or samba
11:32:38  <Ammler> hmm, I could maybe make a sshfs
11:36:26  <dihedral> samba is as secure as ftp :-P
11:36:41  <dihedral> so if you only want to prefer smb over ftp because of security ...
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11:37:46  <Ammler> no, something which I can mount
11:37:50  <Rubidium> backup server? Does that sounds like "off-site" and WAN?
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11:38:22  <Ammler> Rubidium: I do not care that much, I use it as iso archive and such
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11:39:13  <Ammler> well, it is kinda DMZ, limited to hetzner only
11:40:18  <Rubidium> point is, SMB over WAN isn't that great
11:41:10  <Rubidium> even then ftpfs via FUSE should mount as well
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11:47:18  <Eddi|zuHause> i think my windows is screwed up, it doesn't even start proprerly anymore...
11:50:07  <dihedral> Rubidium, LOL
11:51:15  <dihedral> Ammler, i would suggest using something like duply / duplicity
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11:52:18  <dihedral> and make sure you make a backup of the duply config at home ^^
11:52:45  <Wolf01> hello!
11:52:57  <dihedral> Ammler: http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Backup
11:53:06  <dihedral> hello Wolf01
11:54:07  <Rubidium> oh, it has sftp as well?
11:54:10  <Ammler> dihedral: I am using that server
11:54:41  <Ammler> Rubidium: yes
11:54:52  <Rubidium> then you can likely use sshfs as well
11:56:24  <Ammler> I am not sure, if I will use the server for "sensitive data"
11:57:09  <Ammler> my rsync to my home server works nicely, restoring is a pain :-)
11:57:41  <Rubidium> that's just switching some rsync params
11:57:53  <Ammler> I meant the speed :-P
11:58:05  <Ammler> i have 20MB down and 500kb up
11:59:12  <Ammler> just enough so you can't do streaming with "cheap home adsl"
12:00:09  <Ammler> 20Mbit and 2Mbit it is, iirc
12:00:10  <dihedral> i stream and have a 2Mbps
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12:00:42  <Eddi|zuHause> your upstream is still 6 times higher than my downstream...
12:02:25  <dihedral> ... upstream faster than downstream?
12:03:06  <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: hat sounds like dial speed?
12:03:09  <glevans2> Eddi|zuHause, are you on sneaker-net?
12:03:50  <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: almost...
12:03:52  <Rubidium> @calc 500/6
12:03:52  <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 83.3333333333
12:04:11  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: that's off by a factor 2...
12:04:11  <Rubidium> that's faster than the fastest single line ISDN (64)
12:04:27  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i was basing my statement on 2MBit
12:04:42  <Rubidium> ah, so it's 384kb?
12:04:47  <Eddi|zuHause> yes
12:04:56  <Rubidium> then it's definitely not ISDN/PTSN/POTS
12:05:09  <Eddi|zuHause> it's DSL "light"
12:05:11  <Ammler> "like" :-)
12:05:24  <__ln__> how much is DSL "heavy"?
12:05:32  <Ammler> my mobil is faster
12:05:42  <dihedral> and only weights 130g :-P
12:06:01  <Ammler> well, not everywhere
12:06:12  <Eddi|zuHause> "light" is 384kbit, "normal" is 1MBit or 768kbit [old]
12:06:44  <Eddi|zuHause> and then there's faster ones, 6MBit, 16MBit, ...
12:06:45  <Rubidium> Ammler: it's still 6 to 7 times faster than any "dial speed"
12:07:29  <Rubidium> in any case, I've had cases where downstream was slower than upstream
12:07:35  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm usually "winning" on "who has the lowest bandwidth" challanges :p
12:07:49  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: my phone has a lower bandwidth
12:07:58  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: GSM?
12:08:21  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: yes...
12:09:02  <Rubidium> it's smart enough to have a whopping 100 different sudoku start positions, to know the time and to actually store some 20 text messages or so
12:10:14  <Eddi|zuHause> and it's larger than a calculator, or larger than a suitcase? :p
12:10:28  <Rubidium> it's smaller than my TI-83
12:10:39  <Rubidium> it has a colour screen though
12:11:25  <Eddi|zuHause> TIs are a great anomaly... neither their speed nor their memory has increased in the last 30 years :p
12:11:45  <Eddi|zuHause> at least not anywhere near exponential...
12:14:04  <Eddi|zuHause> (related: http://xkcd.com/768/ :p)
12:15:22  <davis> ;)
12:16:25  <Eddi|zuHause> so... what do i do now? i can't get Civ5 to run, and everything else is boring...
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12:16:45  <Noldo> oh no!
12:17:07  <Eddi|zuHause> i hope the new computer arrives this week...
12:17:16  <Eddi|zuHause> but i fear it won't...
12:17:35  <glx> and now I'm trying to remember where is my TI-to-TI cable
12:17:55  <glx> found :)
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12:33:50  <__ln__> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/ActivityManager.html#isUserAMonkey%28%29
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13:10:03  <Belugas> hello
13:12:23  <dihedral> Yexo, i was hoping the person who made the thread would take action himself ;-)
13:12:27  <dihedral> hence i did not report it
13:13:38  <Yexo> ok :)
13:13:38  <dihedral> but thanks :-)
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13:57:18  <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: Your computer will be outdated when it arrives.
13:58:35  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, likely :p
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14:03:30  * Belugas thinks about his own computer park at home and laughs at the idea of outdated computers :)
14:04:30  <dihedral> there is no such thing :-P
14:04:32  * fjb owns an Amiga 1000. And the parts of the newest Computers are at least 5 - 8 years old.
14:04:49  * davis feels happy about his own pc all suddenly :D
14:13:25  <planetmaker> thinking of outdated... the space shuttle runs on 8086 processors IIRC.
14:13:35  <planetmaker> Or did they upgrade to 80486?
14:14:07  <planetmaker> but definitely more radiation hardened and space proof than most current cpus ;-)
14:14:07  <fjb> Someting that survives the trip into the orbit at least.
14:14:31  <planetmaker> it's not survival. It's radiation hardeness
14:14:49  <planetmaker> that is susceptibility to errors due to radiation
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14:16:37  <dihedral> hehe - the space shuttle probably is a system you would not want to change just like that :-D
14:17:07  <Eddi|zuHause> i presume lead-shielding might be a little heavy on a spacecraft ;)
14:17:14  <dihedral> "uh uh - new hardware, lets upgrade" .... " ...a rescue mission is being started ..."
14:18:11  <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: i read an article recently that some aircraft-design-documents specified "in-flight software updates" :p
14:20:04  <dihedral> hopefully not without redundancy and failover / rollback system in place
14:20:13  <dihedral> still
14:20:20  <dihedral> i'd not jump on that plane :-P
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14:21:29  <Belugas> given that the space shuttles are all about to be removed, let say it's not a matter anymore :)
14:22:41  <planetmaker> dihedral: then you probably don't want to jump into modern Airbus or Boing jets...
14:22:50  <planetmaker> Belugas: sadly yes :-(
14:23:33  <dihedral> define 'modern'
14:24:06  <planetmaker> design last 5 years or so
14:24:15  <planetmaker> maybe 10
14:24:30  <Belugas> sadly indeed
14:24:45  <Belugas> space shuttle was a very impressive piece
14:24:57  <planetmaker> still is :-)
14:26:07  <planetmaker> STS-133 hasn't yet lift off
14:26:47  <planetmaker> And I think there'll also be a STS-134.
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14:27:47  <planetmaker> yeah. Nov 1 2010 and Feb 26 2011
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14:33:35  <Rubidium> they should launch 135 as well... a big huge firecracker :)
14:33:35  <Eddi|zuHause> i heard the russians also had a space shuttle program
14:34:07  <planetmaker> Rubidium: too many bad memories I guess... and with <2% failure it's actually quite good
14:34:23  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: long long long ago, and burried back then. The Buran
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14:34:38  <planetmaker> never lift off
14:34:53  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that's what i meant
14:35:34  <planetmaker> the main purpose of the SpaceShuttle actually never was fullfilled: save costs and improve re-use
14:35:56  <planetmaker> but... it might not have been the main driver :-)
14:42:59  * Rubidium wonders what dihedral trusts more... pilots or computers
14:43:25  <Rubidium> i.e. whether he rather flies Boeings or Airbusses
14:43:45  <dihedral> pilots :-P
14:43:53  <dihedral> unless they are suicidal :-D
14:50:21  <planetmaker> well... there have been hundrets of 100% autopilot landings already
14:50:32  <planetmaker> with comercial-grade aircraft
14:50:39  <planetmaker> you may just not have noticed ;-)
14:51:07  <Rubidium> planetmaker: but should the pilot or computer have the final say in the matter?
14:51:29  <planetmaker> if there's a human he probably will.
14:51:37  <Rubidium> i.e. should the computer override the pilot (Airbus) or the pilot override the computer (Boeing)
14:52:24  <planetmaker> ask the Swiss and Russians what happens, if the humans override the computer :-)
14:52:38  <planetmaker> the debris rained on Switzerland...
14:54:01  <fjb> New TTD aircraft: space shuttle. Goes three times over the whole map before it delivers anything.
14:54:18  <planetmaker> capacity: 7 passengers?
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14:55:47  <planetmaker> running cost: 1 billion. Speed: 30000km/h
14:56:01  <Belugas> I remember, as a (relative kid), that NASA got a Boeing 747 with a space shuttle on top of it, flying over the Montreal city for a little demonstration
14:56:05  <Belugas> it was magical to see
14:56:15  <planetmaker> Belugas: that's still in use...
14:56:29  <planetmaker> that's the way they get them back from CA to Florida
14:56:34  <Belugas> granted, for taking it back home
14:56:38  <Belugas> yeah :)
14:57:27  <Belugas> but seeing the stuff flying over with your own eyes, for a show purpose, is quite magical
14:57:33  <Belugas> like ...
14:58:10  <Belugas> waving at Peter Gabriel and receiving a wave back :)
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14:58:26  <Belugas> or David Gilmour, or... you know... a legend
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14:59:18  * fjb is waiting for a space shuttle to wave back.
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15:00:27  <planetmaker> I meant this, Rubidium http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/view_details.cgi?date=07012002&reg=RA-85816&airline=Bashkirian+Airlines
15:00:48  <planetmaker> That I do believe, Belugas - must've been awesome
15:01:53  <Rubidium> planetmaker: so blame the Boeing's computer/pilots I'd say
15:01:55  <Belugas> it was, it was :)
15:02:48  <Rubidium> planetmaker: I guess those two aircraft weren't listening to the same frequency, otherwise the Boeing's pilots should've known the other aircraft was ordered down as well
15:02:50  <Belugas> another good spatial related memory:  I do have vivid memories of the landing on the moon, in 69.  Neil Armstrong and all, on TV
15:02:58  <Belugas> wow... that was just... wow!
15:03:25  <Rubidium> for some reason I can't remember a thing from back then
15:04:36  <Rubidium> planetmaker: on the other hand it's amazing that they managed to hit eachother mid-air
15:05:20  <planetmaker> oh well. That's what the warning and collision detection system is about: to avoid just that... mid-air crashes still tend to be mostly fatal
15:05:28  <glx> Rubidium: no, one pilot followed the controller orders
15:05:35  <fjb> Rubidium: Better blame it on privatized air control.
15:05:37  <glx> the other one followed the TCAS
15:05:48  <planetmaker> yep
15:06:04  <glx> now the rule is always listen to TCAS
15:06:16  <planetmaker> ^^
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15:14:08  <Belugas> [11:03] <@Rubidium> for some reason I can't remember a thing from back then  <-- i just wonder why :)
15:14:37  <planetmaker> :-P
15:14:57  <planetmaker> I have the full TV coverage on video... but no TV anymore :-P
15:15:08  <planetmaker> and I guess my video player doesn't operate anymore either.
15:16:43  <dihedral> <planetmaker> ask the Swiss and Russians what happens, if the humans override the computer :-) <- lol
15:17:10  <dihedral> it depends what you want to override i'd say ^^
15:17:30  <dihedral> pulling the joke for 10 seconds to disable (only parts of) the autopilot may be slightly confusing
15:18:04  <planetmaker> the autopilot can be disabled everywhere.
15:18:31  <dihedral> still dislike that one ^^
15:18:37  <planetmaker> Just... with the fly-by-wire system the computer in modern Airbus planes disallows ruder use which it considers harmful to the airplane
15:19:24  <dihedral> there was a company teaching it's pilots to use full rudder left, right, left, right, etc - when the plane hit turbulences
15:19:26  <dihedral> :-P
15:21:31  <fjb> Airbus is known for not allowing many things like using thrust reverse on only one of two engines.
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15:34:17  <dihedral> reminds me of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q&NR=1
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15:50:32  <planetmaker> doesn't look like totally unexpected
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17:32:41  <Belugas> meeeehhh... practice guitar amp is a tiny bit expansive :(
17:32:51  <Belugas> too much for my current blood, at least
17:33:51  <Alberth> hello mr B!
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17:34:51  <SmatZ> hello Belugas
17:34:56  * Alberth thinks you either s/pan/pen/, or you need a bigger house
17:35:15  <SmatZ> hehe
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17:38:18  <Belugas> ho
17:38:23  <Belugas> pen
17:38:26  <Belugas> of course :S
17:38:33  <Belugas> and hello :)
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18:34:13  <Chris_Booth> evening all
18:34:35  <Alberth> good evening
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18:34:57  <Wolf01> 'night all
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19:07:02  <Eddi|zuHause> what's the maximum number of sound samples played at the same time? and where is that defined?
19:07:18  <Rubidium> mixer.h?
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19:09:07  <Rubidium> or if not there somewhere else in the mixer's code
19:09:13  <Eddi|zuHause> i find it neither in mixer.h nor in mixer.cpp
19:10:26  <Rubidium> then you'll have to wait for someone else to search the code
19:10:30  <Chris_Booth> should be in mixer.cpp
19:10:53  <Chris_Booth> I don't have VS on here
19:11:31  <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: src/mixer.cpp
19:11:34  <SmatZ> static MixerChannel _channels[8];
19:11:52  <Eddi|zuHause> yay, a magic number
19:11:59  <SmatZ> :)
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19:26:57  <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: we have an almost infinite supply of those :)
19:28:11  <Rubidium> hmm... I think I exported the wrong page in my ODS... a 2222 page PDF isn't what I wanted
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19:29:06  <Alberth> it sounds slightly bulky :)
19:29:34  <Eddi|zuHause> "expansive" :p
19:30:07  <Alberth> only when you try making a dead-tree version of it :)
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19:39:29  <Alberth> good night
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21:41:54  <Terkhen> good night
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23:26:16  <Chrill> there you go ;)
23:26:24  <jtfreak> thanks!
23:26:45  <jtfreak> I didn't find any useful help in the forum about this bug:
23:27:06  <jtfreak> I connect a port and a train station (both OIL)
23:27:23  <Chrill> are the two separate stations from the beginning?
23:27:27  <jtfreak> the ship arrives fully loaded
23:27:33  <jtfreak> unloads
23:27:47  <jtfreak> but the reloads again and takes the goods away
23:28:01  <jtfreak> so can I tell the ship just to leave the goods there and dissapear again?
23:28:07  <Chrill> yes, you can
23:28:15  <Chrill> select it to Transfer, then to No Load
23:28:23  <jtfreak> I tried all the options, but it didn't work...
23:28:24  <Chrill> this will make it unload the cargo there, but not pick new cargo up
23:28:37  <Chrill> first select Unload -> Transfer, then Load -> No Load
23:28:45  <jtfreak> I found the transfer, but there is no option not to load...
23:28:56  <jtfreak> ok, let's see...
23:28:58  <Chrill> its under the Load
23:28:59  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, next dropdown
23:29:18  <Chrill> they are two separate options, together they make it "Transfer and leave empty"
23:29:42  <jtfreak> Oh GOOD GOD! I have to combine these two... what a noob error!!!!
23:29:52  <jtfreak> guess it's too late for such a game...
23:29:54  <jtfreak> hahahahaa
23:30:01  <jtfreak> THANKS A LOT!!!!
23:30:10  <Chrill> no probs :)
23:30:16  <jtfreak> but here's another question:
23:30:32  <jtfreak> is it right, that the port "looses" the goods by time?
23:30:49  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, if rating drops below 50%
23:30:59  <jtfreak> very slow, but they vanish....
23:31:26  <jtfreak> ah, ok. so I should make my train bigger...
23:31:37  <Eddi|zuHause> not bigger, arrive more often
23:31:59  <jtfreak> ok, thanks!
23:32:14  <Eddi|zuHause> rating mostly depends on how often the trains arrive. size doesn't really matter
23:32:22  <Eddi|zuHause> unless the piles get huge
23:32:30  <jtfreak> all right!
23:32:41  <jtfreak> I'll speed it up.. :)
23:32:52  <Eddi|zuHause> there's a limit of like 4000 or 16000 items at the station
23:33:02  <jtfreak> have nice time! thanks!
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23:35:20  <Eddi|zuHause> (imho the rating calculation is bad. it encourages the wrong kind of network building)
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