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01:59:25  <Chris_Booth> evening all
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07:01:49  <Terkhen> good morning
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07:22:36  <dihedral> morning
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07:31:07  <dihedral> lol ... "i think we (read: the devs)"
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10:28:55  <Rubidium> oh boy... my lunch break skim of the wiki changes makes me (somewhat) cry
10:30:12  <Rubidium> the configuring patches window of 0.2.x is being documented at the moment
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10:34:12  <Eddi|zuHause> imho, only stuff from the next (nightly), current (1.0) and previous (0.7) stable should be documented at any time...
10:34:44  <Eddi|zuHause> anything else will only become more confusing than helpful
10:35:37  <Rubidium> but... recent and current developments are very important...
10:36:04  <Rubidium> ... and (in 4 days) 3 years out of date
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11:02:09  <Ammler> well, he added the warning that the page is outdated, which isn't that bad...
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11:20:08  <Wolf01> hello
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11:21:22  <__ln__> hello ambadassor of the berlusconiland
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11:22:45  <Ammler> he added also warnings on current pages to look on old pages and reverted my try to remove it :-)
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11:35:37  <dihedral> Rubidium, can you not require people to be logged it to make changes?
11:36:11  <dihedral> hehe - lets hope he does not document each revision :-D
11:36:16  <dihedral> or v0.0.1
11:37:25  <dihedral> or inject a http reply to his next request, telling him to stop :-D
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11:54:17  <norbert79> Good day
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11:58:21  <planetmaker> g'day
11:58:57  <norbert79> hello planetmaker
12:07:06  <Rubidium> well, then send him a wiki "pm" or something
12:12:30  <SmatZ> hello planetmaker
12:13:46  <Chris_Booth> hello all
12:14:52  <planetmaker> hey norbert79 & SmatZ :-)
12:14:53  <planetmaker> & Chris_Booth
12:15:09  <norbert79> Hi SmatZ, Rubidium
12:15:11  <Chris_Booth> hi planetmaker
12:15:16  <SmatZ> hello norbert79
12:15:28  <planetmaker> highlight party ;-)
12:15:43  <Chris_Booth> Smatz, Rubidium and norbert79 hi
12:15:45  <Rubidium> anyone... @nicks?
12:15:57  <Chris_Booth> @nicks
12:15:57  <DorpsGek> Chris_Booth: ^Spike^, __ln__, Aali, ack, Adambean, Ammler, Andel, APTX, ar3kaw, ashb, asnoehu, azaghal, bartavelle, Belugas, Biolunar, blathijs, Born_Acorn, ccfreak2k, Chris_Booth, CIA-2, ctibor, Cybertinus, dfox, dihedral, DorpsGek, dotwaffle, Eddi|zuHause, elho, elmz, eQualizer, erani_, FloSoft, Fuco, George, glevans2, glx, guru3, heffer, HerzogDeXtEr, Hirundo, Joni-, jonty-comp, jpm, jpx_, JVassie_, KenjiE20, KingJ, (2 more messages)
12:16:00  <planetmaker> :-D
12:16:01  <SmatZ> hello Chris_Booth
12:16:02  <Adambean> wat
12:16:03  <SmatZ> :)
12:16:06  <planetmaker> wooot?
12:16:13  <glx> someone wants a ban ???
12:16:16  <blathijs> Why do we even have that command...
12:16:23  <eQualizer> ?
12:16:24  <Chris_Booth> I am in the nick list? how random
12:16:26  <planetmaker> and why can non-admins access it?
12:16:29  <Adambean> @nicks
12:16:29  <DorpsGek> Adambean: ^Spike^, __ln__, Aali, ack, Adambean, Ammler, Andel, APTX, ar3kaw, ashb, asnoehu, azaghal, bartavelle, Belugas, Biolunar, blathijs, Born_Acorn, ccfreak2k, Chris_Booth, CIA-2, ctibor, Cybertinus, dfox, dihedral, DorpsGek, dotwaffle, Eddi|zuHause, elho, elmz, eQualizer, erani_, FloSoft, Fuco, George, glevans2, glx, guru3, heffer, HerzogDeXtEr, Hirundo, Joni-, jonty-comp, jpm, jpx_, JVassie_, KenjiE20, KingJ, (2 more messages)
12:16:31  <Adambean> haha
12:16:32  <Rubidium> ask TrueBrain  :)
12:16:36  <APTX> wtf
12:16:40  <norbert79> What is this command for?
12:16:49  <planetmaker> norbert79: annoying everyone in the channel
12:16:53  <dihedral> erm , can that thing not be disallowed?
12:16:57  <norbert79> planetmaker: Other, than that :)
12:17:00  <glx> @help nicks
12:17:00  <DorpsGek> glx: (nicks [<channel>]) -- Returns the nicks in <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
12:17:16  <norbert79> Ah, now that is indeed annoying
12:17:20  <APTX> DorpsGek: ignored
12:17:44  <Chris_Booth> does do every one only ^Spike^  - KingJ
12:17:47  <Fuco> extremly useful command I might add
12:17:58  <Chris_Booth> and annoying
12:18:02  <dihedral> Chris_Booth, you are not familiar with the more command are you? :-P
12:18:03  <norbert79> Fuco: For spamming? Sure... But thats the only good side of it
12:18:36  <Ammler> I really should rename to zzzz
12:18:40  <Chris_Booth> yes @more dihedral should be call annoy more
12:18:45  <dihedral> Ammler, i thought the same thing
12:18:47  <planetmaker> Ammler: un-zzzz rather ;-)
12:18:58  <TrueBrain> at least it wakes up a few dead skeletons in this channel .. I don't see the issue
12:19:06  <dihedral> Chris_Booth, you are the one who started it!
12:19:06  <TrueBrain> I see people talk here now I haven't seen talk in ages
12:19:08  <planetmaker> look at all those nicks which just woke up ;-)
12:19:26  <planetmaker> hehe @ TrueBrain
12:19:45  <dihedral> set a negative capability :-P
12:19:49  <SmatZ> breaking their records in "last seen", while still being in the channel
12:19:59  <SmatZ> @seen bartavelle
12:19:59  <DorpsGek> SmatZ: bartavelle was last seen in #openttd 34 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 17 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <bartavelle> yes
12:20:05  <SmatZ> wrong guess
12:20:13  <planetmaker> @seen Bjarni
12:20:13  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 31 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 55 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wVADKznOhY <-- wtf. Some rich guy built a trebuchet and uses burning pianos as ammo
12:20:19  <SmatZ> :)
12:20:20  <planetmaker> bad guess, too ;-)
12:20:29  <Rubidium> @seen ludde
12:20:29  <DorpsGek> Rubidium: I have not seen ludde.
12:20:34  <SmatZ> :(
12:20:37  <Rubidium> you stupid woman!
12:20:55  <SmatZ> DorpsGek is a woman?
12:21:15  <Chris_Booth> 34 weeks is a good idle stat
12:21:25  <planetmaker> @seen snorre
12:21:25  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: snorre was last seen in #openttd 8 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 55 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <snorre> I'm running a server.. I'll just switsh to toyland for a while :P
12:21:40  <planetmaker> @seen Progman
12:21:40  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Progman was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 3 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Progman> LunarWolf: you can try this: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk
12:21:44  <planetmaker> hm :-)
12:21:48  <planetmaker> I should stop NOW
12:21:52  <Rubidium> SmatZ: ofcourse she is
12:21:52  <SmatZ> yup :)
12:21:53  <Chris_Booth> maybe a funny idea would be to kick people have 52 weeks
12:22:08  <SmatZ> hello DorpsGek, how are you? :)
12:22:19  <DorpsGek> I'm fine
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12:22:24  <SmatZ> ohhh <3
12:22:35  <TrueBrain> SmatZ: you scare me ... having a conversation with your own can't be a good thing ...
12:22:45  <planetmaker> :-P
12:22:52  <Chris_Booth> Webster talks back aswell
12:22:55  <glx> TrueBrain: was me ;)
12:23:12  <TrueBrain> fair enough :p
12:23:26  <Wolf01> transitive property -> glx is a woman? :O
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12:24:03  <Wolf01> then smatz is gay :P
12:24:26  <Noldo> transitivity describes relations, not properies
12:24:33  <SmatZ> :)
12:25:31  <Chris_Booth> I may start a new IRC client to build up silence stats
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12:26:16  <Rubidium> Wolf01: yeah, I guess SmatZ is happily excited about that statement
12:26:42  <SmatZ> nah, DorpsGek just ignored my kick command
12:26:59  <SmatZ> and op command too
12:27:05  <SmatZ> @op
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12:27:10  <TrueBrain> @whois SmatZ
12:27:15  <TrueBrain> @whoami
12:27:15  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: TrueBrain
12:27:16  <SmatZ> thanks Rubidium :)
12:27:23  <TrueBrain> DorpsGek: you are weird
12:27:28  <SmatZ> :(
12:27:41  <Wolf01> I put a smile at the end, so it was only for fun
12:27:56  <glx> there's no whois command
12:28:15  * Rubidium guesses Wolf01 didn't take a look at the dictionary yet
12:28:29  <SmatZ> @whoami
12:28:29  <DorpsGek> SmatZ: I don't recognize you.
12:28:32  <Wolf01> ok, the other meaning
12:28:36  <dihedral> @whoami
12:28:36  <DorpsGek> dihedral: dih
12:28:37  <dihedral> :-P
12:28:42  <norbert79> @whoareyou
12:28:53  <norbert79> dang, dind't work :)
12:29:13  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: looks like your daughter hit puberty
12:29:18  <SmatZ> :)
12:29:19  <glx> SmatZ: /msg DorpsGek identify maybe
12:29:37  <Chris_Booth> glx whoi is maybe?
12:29:55  <Chris_Booth> :P
12:30:22  <Rubidium> @calc 2.11/8*3600*24*365/1024
12:30:22  <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 8122.67578125
12:30:29  <SmatZ> glx: thanks, I don't remember I even needed to do that
12:30:33  <norbert79> @help
12:30:33  <DorpsGek> norbert79: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
12:30:40  <norbert79> @listcmds
12:30:50  <norbert79> never mind, just testing
12:30:51  <glx> SmatZ: maybe it failed to recognise your host
12:30:59  <Rubidium> hmm, we only used 8 TiB of the 24 TiB we've got available :)
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12:35:33  <Rubidium> although we shouldn't forget the 1.25 TiB a month offloaded to the mirrors
12:35:40  <Rubidium> @calc 1.25*12
12:35:40  <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 15
12:37:38  <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably "cheating", but:
12:37:39  <Rubidium> (although that figure is of the last two months which were much quieter than April)
12:37:42  <Eddi|zuHause> @seen spbot
12:37:42  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: I have not seen spbot.
12:38:09  <norbert79> Terrabytes.. God I remember back of the BBS times where 200 Megabytes of Data or even 1 GiB of data was huge
12:38:30  <norbert79> best connection: Modem 56 kbit :)
12:39:11  <Rubidium> still, 2 TiB a month is quite an achievement for such a relatively small game
12:39:16  <norbert79> Indeed
12:39:24  <Eddi|zuHause> at that time, i had an 80MB hard drive!!
12:40:03  <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: So you could install Strike COmmander with ease... I think users with 20 or 40 MB of big drive had some issues :)
12:40:17  <Rubidium> and "only" 500-600 MiB of that is causes by the content downloads
12:40:22  <Eddi|zuHause> norbert79: i don't remember that game
12:40:54  <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: It was released in 1993, it run very well on a 386 it had textured graphics... It was a flight simulator like Arcade game with a story behind
12:41:07  <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: I still have it in original on CD-ROM
12:41:26  <norbert79> Still fun to play
12:42:09  <Eddi|zuHause> @seen Born_Acorn
12:42:09  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: I have not seen Born_Acorn.
12:42:15  <Eddi|zuHause> hm...
12:42:18  <Eddi|zuHause> weird...
12:42:22  <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qsjTOF62Zs | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_Commander
12:42:50  <Eddi|zuHause> [Mittwoch, 16. September 2009] [02:34:07] <DorpsGek>    Born_Acorn was last seen in #openttd 10 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 48 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Born_Acorn> Bbl
12:43:04  <Eddi|zuHause> that was about one year ago :p
12:43:21  <Rubidium> irc log rotation?
12:43:33  <norbert79> @seen norbert79
12:43:33  <DorpsGek> norbert79: norbert79 was last seen in #openttd 1 minute and 11 seconds ago: <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qsjTOF62Zs | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_Commander
12:45:29  <Eddi|zuHause> norbert79: i never really was into flight simulators...
12:45:43  <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: Oh, I see
12:47:47  <dihedral> norbert79, i think i remember that game :-)
12:48:01  <dihedral> i do remember it :-)
12:48:29  <norbert79> dihedral: It supposed to happen within a year if we look at the games timeline :D
12:50:15  <dihedral> i would argue about it still being fun though :-P
12:50:30  <norbert79> Just try it again, you will find it even today challenging
12:50:32  <dihedral> have a look at flightgear
12:51:02  <norbert79> Comparing FLightgear with Strike Commander is like comparing an apple to raisins
12:51:11  <dihedral> i find it quite sad today, as its physics engine aint quite what i would expect or want
12:51:26  <norbert79> Yet you can replace it
12:51:37  <norbert79> And FG is not an arcade story based game :)
12:51:56  <dihedral> comparing duke nukem 3d with HL is silly too, yet it demonstrates that one has a more up to date engine
12:52:05  <Belugas> hello
12:52:09  <dihedral> hello Belugas
12:52:27  <Belugas> haaa.. for once,  a VALID highlight :)
12:52:31  <norbert79> dihedral: Aw, come on, two different games, two different style, besides there is EDuke32 and HDR packs too :P :)
12:52:36  <Belugas> hi dihedral :)
12:52:46  <dihedral> :-)
12:53:02  <norbert79> dihedral: I loved Half Life for the story and Duke Nukem for it's mood
12:53:21  <dihedral> norbert79, it's not the style i am getting at - i just would not consider the one to be fun to play today, but i prefer keeping it in memory, as it was fun to play back then
12:53:42  <dihedral> the source engine is amazing with regards to it's physics
12:53:49  <dihedral> fg has some awesome physics too
12:53:51  <norbert79> dihedral: Well, it might be only me, but I still happily turn on my old 486 and play those old games
12:54:07  <dihedral> and i can read your answers without you needing to highlight me all the time
12:54:53  <norbert79> Or take Tyrian2000... Now available for free and still rocks... I have played it through almost 10 times by now
12:55:11  <dihedral> never heard of that
12:55:16  <Wolf01> I've the original CD of Tyrian
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12:55:20  <norbert79> and you know what? OpenTTD has no 3D neither we still love playing it :)
12:55:42  <norbert79> Wolf01: Hah, nice!
12:56:31  <dihedral> norbert79, i do not play openttd :-P
12:56:51  <Belugas> hu??? no 3D YET???  Fuck... that must be such an unrealistic and boring game
12:57:01  <dihedral> :-P
12:57:16  <norbert79> Belugas: Yeah, just imagine... No Z coordinates, no nothing, just plain sprites... How dull
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12:57:28  <Eddi|zuHause> norbert79: openttd is from the "isometric age" of 3D-gaming
12:57:51  <norbert79> But on the other hand Little Big Adventure was partially sprited and 3D in one and was also isometric
12:58:01  <norbert79> yet LBA2 turned into almost full 3D
12:58:17  <norbert79> and both are also available by now for free
12:58:37  <dihedral> i consider the fun of openttd to be programming for and around it
12:58:39  <Eddi|zuHause> that was like a wave going through the game industry... sim city 2000, civilization 2, openttd ... even Age of Empires
12:58:48  <peter1138> -r-------- 1 root root 140737486262272 Oct  1 13:57 kcore
12:58:50  <peter1138> hrrrmmmm
12:58:57  <Eddi|zuHause> er...
12:59:01  <Eddi|zuHause> i mean original tt
12:59:18  <norbert79> peter1138: Brwosing through /proc? :)
12:59:30  <peter1138> just added more ram
12:59:33  <Eddi|zuHause> 140TB?
12:59:33  <peter1138> but not that much more ram :P
13:00:12  <norbert79> Some kinda of older flotaing type kinda bug, it shows the negative number... How much ram do you have btw? (I guess it was a Gnome-Session-manager) bug
13:00:27  <Eddi|zuHause> 0x7FFFFFE01000
13:00:30  <ccfreak2k> Isometric allowed you to have "3D" without all the computing required for it.
13:00:30  <Eddi|zuHause> weird number...
13:00:32  <norbert79> A similar game caused me also some headaches sometimes in DOS times
13:00:41  <ccfreak2k> Eddi|zuHause, looks masked.
13:00:45  <norbert79> if you had more, than 32 mb of ram
13:00:48  <Belugas> by the way, i still love openttd...
13:00:54  <peter1138> i guess it's a big memory hole
13:00:57  <Belugas> not as much as i love
13:00:58  <norbert79> Belugas: Who doesn't?
13:00:59  <peter1138> it's approximately 2^47 + 2GB
13:01:15  <Belugas> the music i listen to, right now :)
13:01:24  <peter1138> TSN?
13:01:30  <Belugas> :D
13:01:41  <Belugas> but... still the 5 usual
13:01:51  <Belugas> did not had time for the 19 :(
13:02:08  <Belugas> the 1st and the 5th... my overall best
13:04:44  <dihedral> peter1138, -r--------   1 root       root       128T 2010-10-01 15:00 kcore
13:05:51  <Belugas> right... we're already in october
13:06:05  <Belugas> damned... that's all i can read from these lines
13:07:00  <Eddi|zuHause> -r-------- 1 root root 939528192  1. Okt 15:07 /proc/kcore
13:07:35  <Eddi|zuHause> what does this number even mean?
13:08:12  <SmatZ> size of your RAM?
13:08:27  <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml
13:08:42  <SmatZ> hmm rather size of user-space VM
13:09:28  <SmatZ> -r-------- 1 root root 140737486262272  1. říj 15.08 /proc/kcore
13:09:31  <Eddi|zuHause> Mem:       1034880 <-- that's what 'free' tells me
13:09:34  <Eddi|zuHause> which is slightly more
13:09:37  <SmatZ> I am sure I don't have 128TiB of RAM
13:09:53  <peter1138> SmatZ, it used to, however
13:10:01  <peter1138> my server says 896MB, it has 4GB ram
13:10:07  <dihedral> <SmatZ> size of your RAM? <- that would be nice
13:10:08  <peter1138> processes can be larger than 896MB
13:10:31  <Belugas> guess we are not talking abuot a home PC then :)
13:10:58  <dihedral> i am
13:11:01  <peter1138> yup
13:11:04  <Rubidium> mine says 128T as well...
13:11:07  <peter1138> my server has 4GB, my home pc has 6GB
13:11:14  <dihedral> lol
13:11:42  <Eddi|zuHause> 32bit vs 64bit os?
13:11:51  <Rubidium> too bad /dev/zero is only 5 bytes big. Would be fun to see something like ∞ in ls
13:12:06  <Belugas> :(  that's even more than the total ram i have at home
13:12:06  * Rubidium has a 64 bits OS
13:12:26  <SmatZ> :)
13:12:28  <ccfreak2k> Everyone forgets about PAE.
13:12:36  <Rubidium> in any case 4 GiB isn't enough
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13:12:47  <norbert79> Rubidium: No file in /dev nor in /proc are real files
13:13:00  <Rubidium> kdevelop seriously needed more memory than the 4 GiB of memory I had
13:13:02  <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, possible, the server is 32 bit
13:13:10  <Eddi|zuHause> norbert79: that wasn't the question
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14:02:04  <underdoggg> hi, decided to come straight here and ask about os x build
14:02:26  <underdoggg> is there any way I can play 1.0.4 with this newest mac?
14:02:46  <underdoggg> I have 1.0.3 running smootly, already
14:03:08  <davis> where did you get that 1.0.3 build that runs on mac?
14:03:31  <underdoggg> I found this thread in the forums
14:03:42  <underdoggg> there was this link which I clicked
14:04:07  <underdoggg> mac os x build 1.0.3, sometin like that
14:04:19  <davis> I suppose you have to wait for some 1.0.4 build then
14:04:22  <Wolf01> then is better you ask there
14:04:23  <Belugas> if you can compile, you can have version 1.0.4
14:04:31  <davis> or that way
14:04:31  <davis> haha
14:04:33  <underdoggg> what does compile mean? :)
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14:04:44  <Belugas> otherwise, you shold wait until someone build it fo ryou
14:04:49  <Belugas> compile,,,
14:04:51  <Belugas> ok,
14:05:03  <Belugas> you answered the question
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14:05:14  <avdg> donno if the binaries are portable through
14:05:26  <underdoggg> maybe I have to wait
14:05:37  <Belugas> underdoggg, that's your only solution, then
14:05:43  <underdoggg> but I have 2 flat mates and they have pc's
14:05:51  <avdg> I've done some distribution and seems my binaries doesn't work on other macs
14:05:52  <underdoggg> I made them dl 1.0.3 though :D
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14:06:16  <avdg> and the patch to fix the static links is still not applied for some reasons
14:06:21  <underdoggg> but I was just wondering if there is easy solution
14:06:32  <davis> install windows.
14:06:44  <davis> that's probably as easy as it gets
14:06:45  <Wolf01> lol, I was writing the same
14:06:50  <underdoggg> but, I dont have windows
14:06:58  <avdg> linux then
14:07:11  <underdoggg> can I run linux with mac?
14:07:16  <underdoggg> can I also ask how? :D
14:07:27  <avdg> just install :p
14:07:31  <planetmaker> by installing it
14:07:39  <underdoggg> do I need some other programs?
14:07:50  <Belugas> ans searching on google or whatever your favorite search engine
14:07:53  <planetmaker> you don't even need a computer. ;-)
14:08:04  <davis> haha
14:08:15  <davis> my tv firmware runs on some kind of linux.
14:08:15  <underdoggg> heh, bare me
14:08:30  <underdoggg> asking stupid things, but just trying to safe some surfing
14:08:31  <KenjiE20> I have a spare dead badger around, you can use that for linux is you like :p
14:08:42  <davis> :D
14:09:05  <davis> underdoggg , no harm. but smartest choice is probably to wait
14:09:06  <underdoggg> I just dl linux... well I'm pretty sure there will be problems ahead if I do that
14:09:23  <davis> Ubuntu is pretty simple
14:09:39  <fonsinchen> What exactly are you downloading?
14:09:39  * KenjiE20 shudders
14:10:04  <davis> you can make look ubuntu 100% like windows xp by now
14:10:05  <davis> scary.
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14:10:32  <davis> why would anyone anything looking like windows xp.
14:10:49  <Belugas> well... making the transition easier?
14:11:03  <Belugas> change can be frighting
14:11:19  <davis> Ubuntu is already pretty .. windows like
14:11:24  <davis> at least considering the desktop
14:11:39  <Rubidium> davis: that's definitely a lie
14:11:46  <fonsinchen> I remember working with XP for the first time sometime around 2003, after having worked with 98 and various X window managers ...
14:12:08  <dihedral> davis, excuse me... WHAT?
14:12:09  <fonsinchen> The first thing I thought was: How could they make something THAT awful??!
14:12:20  <davis> http://latmaster.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ubuntu.jpg
14:12:51  <KenjiE20> that looks more Mac than XP?
14:12:54  <Rubidium> that looks in no way like Windows XP
14:12:55  <dihedral> and that is very windows style?
14:13:07  <davis> imho it is close enough to windows
14:13:08  <davis> to not get lost
14:13:09  <dihedral> c'mon davis you can do better than that
14:13:10  <davis> if changing.
14:13:30  <davis> what i'm trying to say , it's not all different haha
14:13:33  <davis> now quit bashing me <3
14:13:45  <dihedral> then quit saying stupid stuff :-P
14:13:51  <davis> shht
14:13:52  <underdoggg> I'l look ubuntu
14:13:57  <underdoggg> ive heard that word before