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00:02:56 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 00:05:51 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-68-183-230-47.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-4-182.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-4-182.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 00:21:56 <zydeco> shouldn't the ADMIN_PACKET_SERVER_COMPANY_INFO packet also include the bankrupcy and share info ADMIN_PACKET_SERVER_COMPANY_UPDATE includes? 00:25:13 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f13f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 00:27:59 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 00:28:16 <zydeco> oh, I should sleep 00:28:23 *** zydeco [~zydeco@163.165.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: miscellaneous hardware exception error] 00:39:55 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@78-105-193-194.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]] 00:44:10 *** murr7y is now known as murr4y 00:51:27 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:00:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-4-182.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:04:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:06:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 01:10:43 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.5.246] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 01:23:09 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 01:23:26 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:11 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:20:39 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 02:46:13 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]] 03:11:47 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:58d8:9140:c40a:ffb7] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:33:33 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:08:00 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 04:24:59 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 04:40:09 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 04:45:24 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:52:41 *** mkv` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:53:22 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:58:23 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:10:43 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-115.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:36:44 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 05:52:24 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76D72.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:18:04 <Eddi|zuHause> aww... i have a feeling i just "fed the troll" 06:18:11 <Eddi|zuHause> ... and it's not even friday 06:30:34 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:58:48 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC438B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:59:05 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3EAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:59:16 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:03:13 <Terkhen> good morning 07:03:36 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 07:10:03 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B107FA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:12:08 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:13:46 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:14:33 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0dbb7b.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:16:00 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B102887.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:16:46 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 07:16:47 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 07:17:56 <planetmaker> good morning 07:19:27 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 07:26:52 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:34:30 *** andy-zzz [5ad5d38c@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:35:24 <andy-zzz> guys, how can I override the 48 square from the edge oil rig setting? 07:35:47 <andy-zzz> and whats the logic behind it anyway? 07:36:18 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36:50 <Terkhen> andy-zzz: the logic is that in TTD, the "sea" was always at the border, but that's not the case anymore 07:37:12 <Terkhen> to override it you can use OpenGFX+ Industries 07:37:23 <planetmaker> :-) 07:37:39 <V453000> or stations name by nearest industry newGRF :p 07:37:53 <Terkhen> oh, that would be a good adition to OpenGFX 07:38:02 <Terkhen> (industries) 07:38:08 <planetmaker> yeah, too 07:38:17 <planetmaker> and manindustries as well 07:38:17 <andy-zzz> how do i go about it? can i change it from within a current game or will i have to restart? 07:38:25 <planetmaker> restart 07:38:39 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:38:58 <planetmaker> any change you make on the current game won't affect the existing industries iirc - and has the potential to muck up even more 07:39:14 <Terkhen> IIRC you can build them anywhere in the scenario editor 07:39:27 <planetmaker> that might be an elegant solution :-) 07:39:36 <Terkhen> if that's the case you could load your game in the SE, place the refinery and move it back to a normal game 07:39:46 <andy-zzz> lol 07:39:53 <andy-zzz> some hack 07:39:55 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:39:57 <Terkhen> yes :) 07:40:09 <Terkhen> but less hackier than changing NewGRFs ingame :P 07:40:10 <planetmaker> not really a hack. Rather a work-around 07:40:32 <andy-zzz> or cheat 07:40:36 <andy-zzz> ;) 07:40:46 <V453000> define cheat :) 07:40:59 <V453000> you play openttd against yourself, how can you cheat that :p 07:41:20 <planetmaker> Terkhen: possibly we should add the developer tools to the cheats 07:41:29 <planetmaker> then most people who use that won 07:41:37 <planetmaker> *won't because they don't like to cheat 07:41:50 <Terkhen> that's a good solution yes :) 07:42:40 <Terkhen> and there is probably some cases in which you can change NewGRFs to "cheat" 07:42:46 <planetmaker> sure 07:42:51 <planetmaker> like manual industries :-) 07:43:14 <planetmaker> or a basecost grf 07:43:42 <Terkhen> but IMO we should keep the developer tools as a setting and just add a cheat flag for "newgrfs changed in this game" 07:44:56 <andy-zzz> both 'load scenario and load heightmap' from inside Scenario Editor filter out the .sav files 07:45:16 <planetmaker> andy-zzz: yes. But just rename it to scn instead of sav 07:45:35 <planetmaker> (the current behaviour is stupid, yes) 07:47:50 <andy-zzz> me or the editor? 07:47:50 <andy-zzz> lol 07:47:58 <andy-zzz> aye thats worked 07:48:05 <planetmaker> the way scn / sav destinction is handled by OpenTTD 07:48:20 <planetmaker> it does - IMHO - make no sense to distinguish it or use different file endings 07:48:31 <planetmaker> *distinction 07:49:09 *** TGYoshi [4da7286d@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:49:10 <planetmaker> it's the save file format with no difference 07:49:15 <TGYoshi> hai ^^ 07:49:27 <andy-zzz> yeah i know but what about the 48 max square from the edge bug (or legacy code), surely an easy one to fix so why not? 07:50:51 <andy-zzz> not a coder but surely if the 48 is already declared it is just a matter of change that? 07:51:47 <planetmaker> it is. But it might break newgrfs which rely on that. And newgrfs can change that. So it's not really a problem 07:51:51 <dihedral> good morning 07:51:59 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... kate doesn't respond well to files with _really_ long lines 07:52:04 <Terkhen> good morning dihedral 07:52:12 <dihedral> uh ... a -zzz tag? :-P 07:52:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:52:31 <planetmaker> as Terkhen said: just use a newgrf which disables that limit. OpenGFX+ Industries does that for instance 08:02:39 <andy-zzz> is Industries in the 'check online content' bit? 08:04:51 <Terkhen> no 08:05:08 <Terkhen> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/LATEST/ 08:05:31 <planetmaker> not yet on bananas :- 08:05:35 <planetmaker> :-) 08:13:16 <andy-zzz> ok, thanks all 08:13:43 <V453000> is it on purpose that lumber mills are treated as "secondaries" in the industry funding? 08:13:47 <V453000> and why? 08:14:08 <V453000> it is impossible to make them disabled :( 08:17:45 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: founding lumbermills is an integral part of the original game 08:17:47 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:18:12 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: there is no other way to create them, they don't appear automatically 08:18:24 <V453000> I would have liked to prospect them :) 08:18:45 <Eddi|zuHause> well... make a newgrf 08:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause> there is a "make lumber mill available in all climates" grf that you can probably use as basis 08:19:46 <V453000> I would rather want to make it unavailable in tropic :) 08:20:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 08:21:23 <planetmaker> newgrf? ;-) 08:23:32 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: "make available" and "make unavailable" is really the same thing, just a bit flipped :p 08:24:54 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, mysqldump has the ability to create tab-delimited lists, great ;) 08:30:34 *** ar3k [ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:50:06 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3EAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 08:59:22 <TGYoshi> O_O 08:59:33 <TGYoshi> The waiting goods reduce in amount somehow x] 09:07:03 <TGYoshi> Found a spelling mistake in the Dutch translation ^^ 09:10:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A7E6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:14:20 <Eddi|zuHause> TGYoshi: they do that if your rating drops below 50% 09:14:43 <Eddi|zuHause> and the spelling won't be fixed by telepathy... 09:16:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D737.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:45 <TGYoshi> What ratings? o.o 09:17:00 <TGYoshi> Does my company suck that much? :P 09:19:33 <Eddi|zuHause> click on the station 09:19:41 <TGYoshi> scary 09:22:18 *** TGYoshi [4da7286d@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:35:50 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: gone...] 09:36:29 *** v3rb0 [~v3rb0@78.84.201.137] has joined #openttd 09:36:40 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:42:06 *** v3rb0 [~v3rb0@78.84.201.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44:19 *** Lachie [~whitey@creep.bur.st] has joined #openttd 09:49:48 *** zydeco [~zydeco@163.165.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 09:55:12 *** v3rb0 [~v3rb0@78.84.201.137] has joined #openttd 09:55:37 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/titlegame/ <-- I must be doing something terribly wrong. Why does the e-mail link not show on that page? 09:56:14 <planetmaker> it should be covering "sending an e-mail to me" - and the source code also shows that... 09:56:40 <blathijs> planetmaker: You forgot the "a" 09:56:44 <blathijs> <href="mailto:planetmaker@openttd.org?subject=TitlegameRound1"> 09:56:49 <blathijs> <a href="mailto:planetmaker@openttd.org?subject=TitlegameRound1"> 09:57:50 <planetmaker> oh, right :-) thanks 09:57:55 <planetmaker> blind fish, me 09:59:14 <Terkhen> why is entry05 zoomed out? 10:00:06 <planetmaker> the contestant chose to submit it that way 10:00:25 <planetmaker> The zoom status is honoured :-) 10:00:53 <Terkhen> ok :) 10:02:03 <planetmaker> I even asked him to consider changing it - but he never got back to me 10:03:18 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: zodttd] 10:03:29 <planetmaker> note that also entry16 is zoomed out to the medium level 10:03:38 <planetmaker> there I know for sure that it's by design 10:05:27 <Terkhen> are they sorted in any specific way? 10:06:00 <planetmaker> no 10:06:14 <planetmaker> file system order 10:06:47 <Eddi|zuHause> didn't we have a "score" system for round 1 last time? 10:07:04 <planetmaker> I'm not sure. Did we? I'm happy with that, too. 10:07:10 <planetmaker> Like 1,2,3? 10:07:30 <planetmaker> Convince me now and I change it :-) 10:07:46 <planetmaker> so like "rank your top three games" 10:07:54 <planetmaker> worth 3, 2 and 1 point 10:08:04 <planetmaker> respectively 10:11:20 <Terkhen> I was pondering spamming votes for entry07, but after seeing how it looks with original graphics I don't want to carry this over my conscience 10:11:46 <Eddi|zuHause> a toyland title screen... scaaaary! 10:12:19 <planetmaker> hm, I could take that out as it's against the rules. But it won't win anyway, I guess :-) 10:12:19 <Terkhen> I was thinking eye bleeding 10:12:34 <Terkhen> but scary fits too :) 10:13:52 <Terkhen> planetmaker: the mail link in your forum post is wrong 10:14:00 <planetmaker> yes 10:14:18 <planetmaker> better? 10:14:28 <planetmaker> the e-mail link does not seem to work in the URL thingy there 10:14:36 <Terkhen> yes :) 10:15:01 <planetmaker> well. Shall I say "rank entries, worth three, two and one point respectively"? 10:15:17 <Terkhen> sounds fine to me 10:16:54 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 10:16:55 <Eddi|zuHause> entry 17 is intriguing ;) 10:17:07 <Eddi|zuHause> so much different than the others ;) 10:17:53 <Terkhen> yes... but I find it a bit too empty 10:19:23 <planetmaker> voting page updated accordingly 10:20:03 <Terkhen> who plays on 2560x1600? 10:20:30 <Eddi|zuHause> entry 25 has an interesting station, but the rest seems kinda boring on higher resolutions 10:21:08 <planetmaker> Terkhen, Rb :-P 10:21:31 <planetmaker> I could play here, though, on 2560 x 1024 10:22:16 <planetmaker> there are many entries where I think they're nice in one aspect - but which fail quite a bit in others - like looking nice on many resolutions 10:22:34 <planetmaker> granted, I'd not give the look on 2560x1600 the biggest impact on my vote 10:22:39 <Terkhen> even with HDMI on my TV IIRC I cannot reach more than 1920x1200 :P 10:23:00 <planetmaker> double & tripple monitor setups ;-) 10:23:14 <Terkhen> heh :) 10:27:14 <zydeco> I play on almost 2560x1440 sometimes 10:27:21 <zydeco> :p 10:29:43 <planetmaker> I play mostly in something about 800x600 ;-) 10:29:53 <planetmaker> windowed, leaving space for IRC and stuff 10:30:19 <zydeco> yes, I normally do that too 10:30:29 <Terkhen> 1280x1024 10:31:44 <Terkhen> planetmaker: is this the "final voting round"? IIRC there was second round after this one 10:32:48 <planetmaker> this is not final 10:33:06 <planetmaker> this is the first? Am I so ambiguous about that? 10:33:07 <Eddi|zuHause> am i crazy for abusing the spam-filter for weeding out the bad images? :p 10:33:29 <planetmaker> there'll be two rounds. First now to create a shortlist, 2nd to pick the winner from the shortlist 10:33:36 <Terkhen> you might want to edit the "body" on your mailto link then 10:33:50 <planetmaker> uhm... ok 10:34:08 <planetmaker> I thought I explained the purpose of that e-mail on the page it is linked ;-) 10:34:47 <Terkhen> planetmaker: yes, but that part of the mail confused me :) 10:34:55 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 10:39:59 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:40:08 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 10:40:56 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-145-2.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 10:41:25 <Eddi|zuHause> entry 24 has the problem that the station is exactly behind the main window on 1680x1050 10:42:17 <Eddi|zuHause> on 800x600 i could almost fall in love with it ;) 10:42:59 <Eddi|zuHause> entry 25 has the exact opposite problem 10:44:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm down to 8 candidates 10:45:21 <Rubidium> wow... 34 candidates? 10:45:47 <Rubidium> that's up 70% from last time ;) 10:49:22 <Rubidium> planetmaker: don't forget openttd.org's frontpage 10:51:03 <SmatZ> dihedral: can you test if connecting to admin console crashes recent nighties? 10:53:48 <dihedral> sure 10:53:51 <dihedral> give me a sec 10:54:26 <dihedral> but you can test it too if you wish :-) 10:54:44 <dihedral> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan 10:54:54 <dihedral> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/wiki/SimpleConsole 10:55:05 <dihedral> you need to download the 'bundle' build 10:55:30 <dihedral> http://hudson.dihedral.de/job/Joan/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/joan-0.1-SNAPSHOT.bundle.jar 10:55:32 <dihedral> ^ SmatZ 10:55:43 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 10:55:45 <dihedral> that creates a remote console via the admin network 10:56:15 <SmatZ> dihedral: I would do that myself, but I don't have java installed :) 10:56:23 <dihedral> pffft :-P 10:57:01 <dihedral> i confirm what you said 10:57:12 <dihedral> Assertion failed at line 127 of /home/nathanael/Development/openttd/src/network/../core/pool_func.hpp: this->checked != 0 10:57:17 <SmatZ> ok thanks :) 10:57:45 <dihedral> thumbs up for noticing that before the rc1 release :-) 10:57:48 <dihedral> sadly not before branching 10:57:50 <dihedral> :-D 11:00:07 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:02:42 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:09:27 <dihedral> most title game entries are based on a single company - that is quite sad 11:09:39 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... since the title game disables cost animation, can it also disable the income sound? 11:10:20 <peter1138> and the ding ding sound? :p 11:10:34 <Eddi|zuHause> different issue :p 11:11:26 <dihedral> lol 11:12:13 <Eddi|zuHause> entry 2 spams some messages about missing AIs... will they be fixed for the final title save? 11:14:01 <dihedral> crashes would also be annoying :-P 11:14:24 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, yes, that can be fixed... 11:16:45 <Eddi|zuHause> entry 11 kinda gives a bad example about landing jet planes on small airports 11:16:47 <dihedral> oversized train stations ... 11:17:16 <planetmaker> he... from the e-mail header's name I didn't quite recognize yours initially, Terkhen :-) 11:17:27 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: those fell out of the consideration quite fast :p 11:17:37 <dihedral> aye 11:18:18 <Terkhen> :) 11:20:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.187.94] has joined #openttd 11:25:51 <dihedral> odd - i only have one save to vote for :-( 11:25:53 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... now i'm down to 4 11:26:13 <Eddi|zuHause> but i can't decide between 20 or 21 11:26:26 <dihedral> and sadly the one i do have looks odd in small resolutions 11:27:04 <dihedral> they both only have one company on the go 11:27:31 <Eddi|zuHause> 20 has a minor flaw 11:27:39 <Eddi|zuHause> in the top left there's a rail line 11:27:50 <Eddi|zuHause> but it takes a really long time until a train comes 11:31:20 <zydeco> oops, a bug 11:31:29 <planetmaker> Rubidium, you mean I should add a news message? Ok, I'll tend to that... in a few hours 11:34:24 <planetmaker> and thanks for reminding me :-) 11:35:11 <planetmaker> btw, the "top performer" of the current competition contributed a whopping 6 savegames 11:35:40 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, might have recognized those :-) 11:35:57 <planetmaker> not recognized. But identified 11:36:22 <Eddi|zuHause> nah, i didn't really paid attention ;) 11:36:56 <Eddi|zuHause> err... "pay" or "hadn't" 11:37:20 <planetmaker> <dihedral> oversized train stations ... 11:37:20 <planetmaker> <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: those fell out of the consideration quite fast :p 11:37:28 <planetmaker> I meant that ;-) 11:37:42 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah ;) 11:38:06 <Eddi|zuHause> some of the entries looked very alike 11:40:13 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:41:59 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 11:45:38 *** andy-zzz [5ad5d38c@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:56:49 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 11:57:56 <DanMacK> Hey all 11:59:44 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:00:09 <SmatZ> :) 12:00:14 <SmatZ> hello DanMacK 12:05:40 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-68-183-230-107.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 12:11:51 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r22085 /trunk/src/network/network_admin.cpp: -Fix: assert when connecting to the admin port 12:18:28 <planetmaker> hi DanMacK 12:23:04 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, is the list also your order of preference? 12:23:52 <planetmaker> (now that you suggested to rank savegames, you don't do it yourself ;-) ) 12:29:43 <dihedral> :-P 12:30:30 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: hm, maybe i didn't refresh the page... 12:32:23 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: but yeah, i think the order is right 12:32:43 <planetmaker> ok :-) 12:33:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:23 *** Doorslammer [770b13ab@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:40:16 *** fjb is now known as Guest1428 12:40:18 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE27E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:42:09 *** Doorslammer [770b13ab@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:45:28 <dihedral> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/22085/ <- can someone tell me how this actually fixed the issue? i only see 2 additional asserts and fail to see the fix :-( 12:45:55 <dihedral> or does assert_compile() do something special? 12:46:52 <planetmaker> it fails on compilation, not run-time 12:47:16 *** Guest1428 [~frank@p5DDFD1A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:17 <planetmaker> like type checking 12:47:27 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3EAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:33 <peter1138> dihedral, doesn't make sense to me 12:48:31 <peter1138> dihedral, i could see it moving a crash/assert from somewhere else to here, but not actually fix anything 12:48:47 <dihedral> oddly enough - it does seem fixed :-P 12:48:57 <dihedral> which is what i am surprised about and do not understand why 12:50:22 <SmatZ> dihedral: assert() as sideeffect calls CanAllocateItem() 12:50:30 <SmatZ> which is needed to prevent the other assert 12:51:02 <SmatZ> CanAllocateItem() affects Pool::checked 12:51:10 *** zydeco [~zydeco@163.165.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: miscellaneous hardware exception error] 12:51:15 <SmatZ> GetNew() checks Pool::checked ... only with asserts enabled 12:51:49 <dihedral> lol :-) 12:51:53 <dihedral> nifty 12:52:01 <dihedral> thank you SmatZ 12:53:00 <peter1138> sounds like it's hiding a faulty condition elsewhere to me 12:54:09 <SmatZ> peter1138: the check in GetNew() is used to verify we called CanAllocateItem() before trying to allocate an item... but in this case, _network_clients_connected is checked instead 12:54:17 <SmatZ> so it shouldn't fail 12:54:39 <SmatZ> but yes, if that assert() fails, then _network_clients_connected is counting wrongly 12:55:27 <dihedral> does _network_clients_connected include admin connectsions? i thought it only counted clients 12:55:41 <SmatZ> nope, it uses different pool as well 12:55:46 <SmatZ> but the logic is the same 12:56:06 <SmatZ> _network_admins... ServerAdminPool (or something like that) 12:56:52 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:56:59 <dihedral> yes 12:57:22 <dihedral> why not add the 'canAllocateItem' to the value of 'accept'? 12:58:12 <SmatZ> dihedral: in fact, I was thinking about getting rid of _network_clients_connected and using ServerNetworkGameSocketHandler::GetNumItems() instead 12:58:18 <SmatZ> similiar for *admin* 12:58:28 <SmatZ> but I haven't investigated that idea further 12:58:31 * DanMacK missed the toyland entry for the title game thread 12:58:47 <SmatZ> maybe because _network_clients_connected counts the non-dedicated server as well, or something like that 12:58:49 <SmatZ> (just guessing) 13:00:04 <dihedral> which is a simple -1 if _network_dedicated 13:02:38 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8761.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:02:57 <dihedral> SmatZ, would your fix not fail if asserts are not enabled? 13:03:20 <dihedral> i.e. for a stable release? 13:03:49 <peter1138> no, cos it wouldn't assert in the first place 13:03:55 <peter1138> (i assume that's the problem) 13:04:13 <peter1138> hence my statement about hiding a faulty condition elsewhere 13:05:05 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:05:18 <dihedral> that's odd.... 13:05:30 <dihedral> i mean, of course it would not assert elsewhere if asserts were disabled 13:05:53 <dihedral> but what _would_ happen? 13:06:03 <SmatZ> not calling CanAllocateItem() isn't "faulty" 13:06:17 <SmatZ> but in some cases, when the pool is full, it would error() 13:06:34 <SmatZ> there are cases when we know CanAllocateItem() is not needed 13:06:45 <SmatZ> but it has to be called in order to make GetNew() happy 13:12:00 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:15:28 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r22086 /trunk/src/network/network_server.cpp: -Fix: do not check if we can allocate an item if we won't try to do so anyway 13:15:37 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.213.148] has quit [Quit: Going!] 13:27:53 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: terkhen * r22087 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix: When deleting towns, only relocate objects during DC_EXEC. 13:31:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 13:32:39 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 13:34:20 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:41:05 <xiong> I'm trying to get a machine shop started before it goes bust. And I've been busy.... So meanwhile, my steel mill is only just really getting started and has never shipped. So, I put a token 2-car train on it, to the machine shop, just to get the ball rolling. The train sat there trying to load for 2 months, then finally took away its measly 44 tons. Immediately, I see a > 300-ton backlog on the steel mill! 13:43:17 <V453000> what is unusual? :) 13:43:38 <xiong> Oh, and I forgot to mention that one of the the things that delayed setting up the machine shop station was the tinkering I did to synchronize delivery of all 3 inputs to the steel mill. 13:43:57 <xiong> V453000, Eh? Not exactly unusual, maybe; just ornery. 13:44:01 <V453000> what is the problem :) 13:44:41 <xiong> Well, shortage of coal, for one. That's another thing I was fixing when I started to panic over the machine shop. 13:45:23 <xiong> See, the machine shop is just two counties away from the forge, which had the initial responsibility, of course, for primary industry supply. I so want to be able to slip the machine shop into that role. 13:45:53 <xiong> If it goes bust while that pilot train is making its way across the map, I'll plotz. 13:47:22 <xiong> The coal mine was way over on the wrong side of the map *and* next to a lime kiln, so I have mental issues shipping that coal to the steel mill. I prospected a second coal mine and it was created much further away still. Nothing like a challenge. 13:48:14 <xiong> I *will* get coal to the mill, metal to the shop. We have the technology. 13:48:35 <V453000> I cant say I understand the problem, but it probably isnt important 13:48:52 <xiong> ? 13:49:27 <xiong> No, not important. Don't know how I've been unclear. Certainly not a bug in the software. Maybe a short between the earphones: mine. 13:49:58 <V453000> if I understand correctly, you connected a lime kiln and steel mill, while you had only one coal mine 13:50:47 <V453000> that is your problem that you have not enough mines :) that is why there are the supplies to make you able to control which industry grows - here you need the coal mine to grow, so you supply it and after it grew enough you connect another coal accepting industry :) 13:50:51 <xiong> Oh no; I just wasn't shipping coal to the mill. A token load but that's all. But it is getting plenty of iron ore and scrap, so I'd like to think it would produce more consistently. Oh well. 13:51:43 *** Strid_ [~Strid@c-f083e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:51:51 <xiong> "Consistently" is a big and fuzzy concept. Naturally, I don't want to litter my layout with tiny trains. But it might take two months just to load a long train, even at a good producer. There are tradeoffs.... 13:52:30 <V453000> so you are having problems with waves of production at steel mill 13:52:41 <xiong> Ramping up transport to match production is not straightforward. Ideally, you start with many short trains and go to many long trains. 13:52:56 <V453000> solution a: provide more intensive service, solution b: provide a flexible train count to the metal pickup 13:53:28 <xiong> But there is no way to auto-lengthen a train. I find lengthening to be quite tedious when I have, say, 16 trains picking up at X. 13:53:30 <V453000> intensive service as in more delivery trains, so you can be sure all 3 cargoes arrive each month 13:54:20 <xiong> V453000, That's why I have the syncho section. I have 4 trains and 3 trucks shuttling cargo back and forth. If there were any coal delivered to speak of, I'm sure it would work better. 13:54:35 <xiong> s/syncho/synchro/ 13:55:19 <xiong> Someone, by now, has probably suggested autoreplace other than 1-for-1. 13:55:56 <xiong> I don't know what that would look like; the current autoreplace dialog already is a bit clumsy, although essential. 13:56:25 <V453000> wait, are you having problems with waves on steel mill production, autoreplace of trains, or coal mines, lime kilns or what? :D 13:56:48 *** TGYoshi [4da7286d@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:56:56 <TGYoshi> trala 13:59:23 <xiong> V453000, I'm not much of a linear thinker. All of the above. 13:59:49 <xiong> A cascade of issues; I examine it for weak links. 13:59:56 <V453000> uhm 14:00:03 <V453000> guess I cannot help you then 14:01:45 <xiong> Well, I don't know what *could* be done. I mean, everything can be done, in time. This was not an ongoing issue, merely a bubble -- I wanted metal and I wanted it right then. If I'd thought ahead, I might have shipped metal to a random station, nearby the machine shop, long ago. The station is already there, I can transfer the metal and store it until I'm ready to accept it. 14:02:08 <xiong> The only issue there is that then, forever, that temp warehouse will complain that it's not getting good metal service. 14:03:24 <xiong> The basic issue is that, even with all the cash I could possibly spend, it takes me long enough to build the network that an industry may close before I get to it -- an industry I want. That's a challenge, not a problem. 14:05:18 <xiong> I only mentioned any of this because I thought it was funny to stand there peeing my pants, waiting for that one token train to load, thinking I should have only put 1 car on instead of 2; and then I saw the 300t pile up right after. People tell me I don't have a sense of humor. 14:07:17 <xiong> Ha. The backlog just broke 1000t. I'll just have to buy some trains, eh? 14:08:07 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.213.148] has joined #openttd 14:08:12 <V453000> maybe :) 14:13:25 <xiong> Well, not tonight. Time for beddy with Teddy. 14:20:53 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:20:59 <Belugas> hello 14:21:04 <andythenorth> anybody want to write a GUI in squirrel? 14:21:14 *** ar3k [ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21:21 <andythenorth> and exponentially increase the bad kind of complexity 14:21:48 <andythenorth> meanwhile also creating nice turf war about APIs between 'devs' and 'GUI devs' 14:21:57 <andythenorth> a whole new kind of whining to enjoy :| 14:23:06 *** ar3k [~ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:23:22 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-68-183-230-107.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:02 <planetmaker> hello andythenorth 14:25:07 <andythenorth> hello :D 14:25:12 <planetmaker> and hello Belugas 14:26:25 <planetmaker> <planetmaker> http://imagebin.org/137986 <-- a display gui instead of transparency gui? @ andythenorth :-) 14:27:46 <Ammler> shouldn't that be left aligned? 14:28:10 <planetmaker> I'd align the text to the buttons 14:28:33 <planetmaker> but it's just an idea... but maybe it's also not needed at all. 14:28:46 <planetmaker> I just wonder about those stray display options as seen in the menu on the left 14:28:53 <planetmaker> That's... a peculiar place for settings 14:29:27 <planetmaker> so I wonder whether they should - aside from going to the adv. settings - also go into a transparency or reworked display gui 14:29:54 <planetmaker> but it'd be one place less to look for. 14:30:17 <planetmaker> And being able to change animation and details settings from the main menu is very helpful when joining servers with heavy savegames 14:30:46 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.213.148] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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:-( 15:30:20 <planetmaker> I think I found those toys most fun as kid which came without much instructions ;-) 15:30:27 <planetmaker> like lego :-) 15:30:55 <Eddi|zuHause> what? there were plenty of instructions with lego 15:31:33 <Eddi|zuHause> but maybe i was way older than the average "wessi" when i got my first lego 15:31:47 <planetmaker> there were some... but they don't make lego a better thing :-) 15:32:40 <Eddi|zuHause> of course we had our own plastic bricks, but they also came with instructions (or suggestions) how to assemble them 15:33:14 <Eddi|zuHause> and in the child care, they also explained how to use wooden bricks to build a wall 15:33:16 <Belugas> well.. as we are growing, some toys are getting more complexes... our friend @calc is on example :) 15:33:33 <planetmaker> :-) 15:33:35 <Belugas> plus, with lego, have you seen the pile of pages they ship with new boxes? 15:33:52 <planetmaker> I guess I haven't bought lego in a long time 15:33:56 <Belugas> so the more the instructions, the easier we can tame them! 15:34:00 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 15:34:17 <Belugas> :) 15:35:01 <Eddi|zuHause> ... i always grumbled at the maple bot, because the help() command only ever replied the heading of the help page 15:35:10 <Belugas> #between two pieces of 15:35:12 <Belugas> #BREAD! 15:35:40 <Eddi|zuHause> which is about as useless as an obscure error message as the above 15:35:55 <Belugas> #And she put me to bed 15:35:57 <Belugas> #between two pieces of 15:35:59 <Belugas> #BREAD! 15:36:04 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-63-230.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:36:55 <Belugas> Roger Waters, Pros And Cons Of Hitch-hiking, Sexual Revolution 15:37:11 <Belugas> obscur and tormented guy ;) 15:38:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i think he's finally going mad. 15:39:30 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:40:31 <Belugas> hehe 15:41:12 <Belugas> some good music he made, even if a bit repetitive. trademark, i'd say 15:42:10 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-97-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:53 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-145-2.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 16:01:56 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 16:04:12 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 16:12:07 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 16:21:19 *** ar3k [~ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:22:27 *** Strid_ [~Strid@c-ee80e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:24:18 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:29:37 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:16 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0dbb7b.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:53:38 <Belugas> grmuble grumble grumble 16:53:49 <Belugas> time to go feed my frankeinstein 16:55:34 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 16:56:10 <peter1138> uh 17:02:13 <Eddi|zuHause> who is Frank Einstein? 17:02:44 <TGYoshi> blubz? 17:02:59 <TGYoshi> Uhhh 17:03:05 <TGYoshi> Why is the monorail still locked in my game? 17:03:15 <TGYoshi> Or why is it locked 17:03:20 <TGYoshi> Want to use it x] 17:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause> TGYoshi: if you don't use NewGRFs, monorail becomes available shortly after 2000. if you use NewGRFs, they usually have no monorail at all 17:05:44 <TGYoshi> the selection is grayed out at the moment, still not at 2000 yet though 17:05:51 <TGYoshi> Will try that first, ty ^^ 17:06:19 <TGYoshi> Can I convert my rails fast to electric too? 17:07:51 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 17:07:56 <TGYoshi> Cool, how? :P 17:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> on the right of the rail toolbar is the convert button 17:09:21 <andythenorth> planetmaker: http://www.bricklink.com/ 17:09:28 <andythenorth> go find your old childhood toy 17:09:29 <andythenorth> ! 17:09:36 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:09:41 <TGYoshi> omg cool :P 17:09:54 <TGYoshi> thanks eddi, works great 17:10:09 <planetmaker> hehe, yeah, andythenorth :-) 17:11:36 *** daxcimix [~dax@88-149-247-29.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #openttd 17:11:39 <daxcimix> hello! 17:12:07 <planetmaker> andythenorth: our 'villa' is not there ;-) - but on a 20 year old lego house I'd not expect that :-P 17:12:10 <planetmaker> hello daxcimix 17:12:26 <daxcimix> hi planetmaker :D 17:14:30 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 17:14:52 <daxcimix> guys some times ago i read a thread in openttd's forum, about a patch to make in ottd a kind of timeline... will it implemented? (sorry for my english!!) 17:14:52 <andythenorth> planetmaker: everything is there :) 17:15:00 <andythenorth> not always affordable :P 17:15:25 <planetmaker> what do you mean with 'timeline'? 17:15:49 <daxcimix> set order with time (hh:mm) and not with days/ticket 17:16:03 <daxcimix> the possibility to set a departure time 17:16:05 <planetmaker> and... 'will it be implemented' depends on either developer interest or someone who writes a really proper patch for that. 17:16:18 <planetmaker> ah. Somehow the author abandoned that. Sadly 17:16:25 <daxcimix> d'oh! 17:16:30 <daxcimix> :D 17:16:33 <planetmaker> at lease I've not seen an update there. So ... 17:16:48 <daxcimix> yeah, thank you mate!!! 17:16:52 <planetmaker> not in 1.1 then :-) 17:17:13 <daxcimix> ahahahahahahah ok :D atm i'm running 22070 17:18:24 <daxcimix> but i can't understand is the trunk version a kind of beta? 17:18:50 <planetmaker> trunk is alpha 17:19:10 <planetmaker> but indeed our betas are somewhat re-labeled trunk versions 17:21:37 <daxcimix> ahhh ok :D but the trunk version include same features of the stable and some novelty? 17:23:48 *** Dreamxtreme [Dre@92.30.213.148] has joined #openttd 17:25:16 <Terkhen> daxcimix: http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_OpenTTD_versions 17:26:00 <planetmaker> about yes 17:26:21 <daxcimix> thank you Terkhen :D 17:41:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host194-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:42:51 <Wolf01> hello 17:45:17 * Sacro doesn't understand german signalling D: 17:46:26 * ZirconiumX doesn't need to understand it 17:46:46 <Sacro> that one was green and 3 yellows :\ 17:47:15 <Sacro> oh, that means 40kph limit 17:47:27 <supermop_> are you driving a train lost in germany? 17:47:31 <Sacro> Yes 17:47:44 <Sacro> class 380 17:48:23 <supermop_> Such would make a good formulaic buddy comedy 17:50:11 <supermop_> couple of guys have a wild and crazy night (bachelor party, graduation, whatever), cut to them confused and driving a train in Germany, no idea how they got there, one of them is trying to get on irc to find out what German signaling means. 17:50:55 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: the main problem is that there are like 5 completely different signalling systems 17:51:34 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:51:56 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 17:51:59 <ZirconiumX> @supermop_,with everyone at the other side of the computer banging their heads on a concrete block 17:53:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: http://stellwerke.de/signal/deutsch/vor-haupt.html 17:53:48 <supermop_> I smell a screenplay 17:54:46 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: likely the green/yellow told you "proceed with speed limit 40km/h" and the other two yellow told you "next signal is red" 17:54:55 * ZirconiumX looks at link and gets confused, because he doesn't know German 17:55:42 <Eddi|zuHause> ZirconiumX: click the five links at the bottom. they have pictures ;) 17:56:35 <ZirconiumX> hmmm 17:56:36 <ZirconiumX> Hp 1 - Fahrt 17:56:40 *** Maarten_ [~dutchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 17:56:40 *** Maarten [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:42 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 17:56:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: it gets worse if you have one of these: http://stellwerke.de/signal/deutsch/ks.html they have blinking lights and stuff :p 17:56:49 <ZirconiumX> this is not a good thing in english 17:57:26 <Eddi|zuHause> ZirconiumX: there is that anecdote about The Queen visiting denmark 17:57:41 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:57:45 <Eddi|zuHause> ZirconiumX: they had to cover the elevator sign that said "i fart" 17:57:57 <Eddi|zuHause> [meaning: "in motion"] 17:58:28 <ZirconiumX> heh 17:58:34 <supermop_> i feel like Elizabeth wouldn't be too offendended 17:59:23 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_: i don't really know whether it's actually true 17:59:34 <Prof_Frink> That's what they were worried about. She'd take it as an invitation. 17:59:43 * ZirconiumX wonders why all drivers appear to be female... 18:00:02 <ZirconiumX> ...She can see... 18:00:17 <Prof_Frink> Shesmovedon 18:00:50 <Eddi|zuHause> ZirconiumX: my guess is you used a stupid translator 18:00:52 <ZirconiumX> Oh god here we go again 18:00:54 <supermop_> revised screenplay: Queen Elizabeth II winds up driving the train and going on IRC to read about german signalling 18:01:02 <ZirconiumX> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=www.stellwerke.de%2Fsignal%2Fdeutsch%2Fvor-haupt.html&act=url 18:01:11 <ZirconiumX> Google Translate 18:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_: why would a giant cruise ship care about signalling? 18:01:36 <supermop_> II not 2 18:01:53 <supermop_> and, its an ocean liner, not a cruise ship 18:01:57 <Prof_Frink> Queen Elizabeth 2: Queen Harder. 18:02:05 <daxcimix> have to go!!! 18:02:06 <daxcimix> bye bye! 18:02:22 *** daxcimix [~dax@88-149-247-29.dynamic.ngi.it] has quit [Quit: Se questo che ho deciso e questo Ú ciò che voglio,contando su me stesso io difenderò il mio orgoglio. ] 18:02:34 <Eddi|zuHause> ZirconiumX: really, it completely twists around the meaning of the sentence 18:02:49 <supermop_> Queen Elizabeth I driving an ICE trying to learn about german signaling would also work 18:03:09 <Eddi|zuHause> ZirconiumX: "She" should be "They", meaning "the signals" 18:03:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and "see" should be "show" 18:03:46 <ZirconiumX> Eddi|zuHause: Babelfish is somewhat better 18:04:04 <ZirconiumX> ...They indicate to it... 18:04:18 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that is more closely what it means 18:04:26 <ZirconiumX> Now drivers are objects not people 18:04:41 <ZirconiumX> However 18:04:46 <ZirconiumX> ...Hauptsignale are probably... 18:05:08 <ZirconiumX> BLF has no idea what Hauptsignale means 18:05:17 <supermop_> i have an idea 18:05:17 <Eddi|zuHause> well, read both texts and maybe you get an idea ;) 18:05:23 <ZirconiumX> Main signals 18:05:37 <ZirconiumX> I'll do so later - I gtg 18:05:45 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:06:06 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f727588.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:06:53 <Belugas> from miles and miles and miles and miles 18:09:25 *** v3rb0 [~v3rb0@78.84.201.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:28 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:09:40 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 18:11:38 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:11 *** BelugasOffice [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 18:15:11 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15:13 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm208.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 18:15:37 *** BelugasOffice is now known as Belugas 18:15:40 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:35:29 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:38:20 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 18:39:11 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 18:53:43 <V453000> im sorry but what exactly do I need to type in the console to change autoclean_protected? :O I typed rcon <the password> set "autoclean_protected = 0" and it does nothing :| 18:53:48 <V453000> or ... does not work :) 18:55:41 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:05 <V453000> anyone please? 18:57:58 <Terkhen> shouldn't it be rcon <password> "set ... "? 18:59:56 <V453000> I thought so 19:00:10 <V453000> or ... tried both 19:00:11 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm208.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:39 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@130.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:59 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:05:18 <SmatZ> V453000: rcon "set autoclean_protected 0" 19:05:31 <SmatZ> apostrophes are important 19:06:03 <V453000> ah, thx, that is about the last possibility that I did not try :D 19:06:45 <SmatZ> :) 19:06:51 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:07:31 <Prof_Frink> I see no apostrophes. 19:07:56 <SmatZ> I see no Prof_Frink 19:08:16 <DJNekkid> are there any known document that could tell me what color in the palette that translates to what colors from the CC's? 19:08:57 <DJNekkid> i mean, there are 8 shades of cc-color 19:09:36 <DJNekkid> but on some colors arent it too easy to 'guess' what it might translate to if set to, say, yellow or orange 19:09:48 *** He||isH [~hellish@89.169.13.173] has joined #openttd 19:12:57 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:15:35 <He||isH> hello, how to run a scenario on a dedicated server? 19:17:46 <DJNekkid> openttd -D -g path_to/scenario ? 19:18:22 <V453000> just load the scenario offline and save tha game :) then load the .sav 19:18:41 <DJNekkid> that is also an option 19:18:54 <DJNekkid> atleast that works with the -g path_to/save.sav 19:20:27 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-115.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:27:50 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:29:09 *** guyht [~guyht@82.132.249.148] has joined #openttd 19:30:10 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@229.142.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 19:30:20 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.199.187] has joined #openttd 19:30:42 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:32:18 *** guyht__ [~guyht@82.132.210.124] has joined #openttd 19:32:31 <He||isH> not working 19:35:26 <Ammler> He||isH: "not working" is no proper error description 19:36:16 <andythenorth> it's not RTS or a business simulator 19:36:18 <andythenorth> it's a MUD! 19:36:23 <V453000> DEATHMATCH 19:36:24 <__ln__> all work and no play makes jack a dull boy 19:36:25 <He||isH> http://paste.the-sinner.net/index.php/view/73544126 and runs random map 19:36:26 * andythenorth goes north 19:37:08 <andythenorth> when is 1.1 going golden? 19:37:13 *** guyht [~guyht@82.132.249.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:15 *** guyht__ is now known as guyht 19:37:16 <andythenorth> my FIRS download counts are underwhelming :P 19:37:21 <andythenorth> (1.1.x needed) 19:37:34 <planetmaker> You'll have to have a few weeks patience for the stable 19:37:41 <andythenorth> patience? 19:37:43 <andythenorth> what is this concept? 19:37:50 <andythenorth> is it a european thing? 19:38:05 <planetmaker> Something I heart somewhere... no detailed idea, though 19:38:11 <planetmaker> people seem to praise it, though 19:42:29 <dihedral> patience is a virtue 19:42:40 <dihedral> virtue was never really one of my vitues though 19:44:06 <He||isH> Ammler, sorry, even a random map will not start. may be a console command? 19:45:05 <Ammler> He||isH: does it generate a random map then? 19:45:05 <He||isH> same wiht save game 19:45:32 <Ammler> does "openttd -D" work? 19:45:46 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:45:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:47:26 *** guyht [~guyht@82.132.210.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:53 *** guyht [~guyht@82.132.210.130] has joined #openttd 19:48:05 *** welterde [welterde@thinkbase.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:54 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db188a3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:49:54 *** guyht [~guyht@82.132.210.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:18 <He||isH> Ammler, I have Gentoo and compile OpenTTD with the flag dedicated. i run openttd dedicated server by a script /etc/init.d/openttd start 19:52:30 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.199.187] has left #openttd [] 19:52:40 <dihedral> lol 19:52:47 <dihedral> possibly as root too? :-P 19:53:08 <dihedral> Ammler, are you sure the -g flag accepts a path and not just a scn/sav name? 19:53:33 <dihedral> i would expect the same behaviour as with the -c flag 19:53:57 <Ammler> dihedral: path is fine 19:55:14 <Ammler> He||isH: gentoo has a init script for openttd? 19:55:24 <Ammler> how ugly is that :-) 19:55:40 <dihedral> running it as root - i think that is more ugly 19:56:32 <Ammler> well, maybe the init script does make a kind of sudo :-) 19:56:56 <dihedral> then he cannot access .openttd in /root - at least i would be surprised if it could 19:57:11 <Ammler> He||isH: just switch to a "normal" user and run openttd -D 19:57:50 *** zydeco [~zydeco@163.165.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 19:58:08 <zydeco> greetings 19:59:02 <Ammler> well, there are a lot gentoo guys here, they should know the init script, SmatZ :-P 19:59:35 <dihedral> i hope this is not a "gentoo guy" type of thing to do - running openttd as root :-P 19:59:45 <dihedral> i would actually expect more from gentoo "users" 20:00:07 <Ammler> many init script switch user 20:00:52 <planetmaker> [20:53] <dihedral> Ammler, are you sure the -g flag accepts a path and not just a scn/sav name? <-- I know it accepts a path for .sav files 20:02:34 <dihedral> Ammler, then he should check the permissions on the scn he probably put there himself 20:02:43 <Ammler> I used init script also to start "user deamons" until I found @reboot for crontab 20:02:53 <dihedral> :-P 20:03:42 <dihedral> [2011-02-15 21:03:23] dbg: [net] Loading game failed, so a new (random) game will be started! 20:03:48 <dihedral> that's what i get 20:04:08 <Ammler> when you do what? 20:04:50 <Alberth> hello zydeco 20:05:28 <dihedral> -g test 20:05:38 <dihedral> (no save not svn, not even a file) 20:05:41 <dihedral> [2011-02-15 21:05:10] dbg: [net] Loading requested map failed, aborting 20:05:41 <dihedral> [2011-02-15 21:05:10] dbg: [net] Dedicated server could not be started, aborting 20:05:54 <dihedral> follwes the map generation and openttd quits 20:06:33 <Ammler> yes, that might be worth a bugrepot 20:06:51 <He||isH> done, scenario is run 20:07:01 <He||isH> 10x ]:) 20:07:15 <Ammler> He||isH: what was your fix? 20:07:45 <He||isH> use flag zlib on and recompile 20:08:01 <dihedral> lol 20:08:09 <Ammler> you were able to compile openttd without zlib? 20:08:21 <dihedral> He||isH, i really would suggest you do not run openttd as root (just in case you do) 20:08:27 <Ammler> I would have expected a error exit with it 20:08:56 <dihedral> # 20:08:56 <dihedral> [2011-02-15 22:30:42] dbg: [sl] Game Load Failed 20:08:56 <dihedral> # 20:08:56 <dihedral> Internal error: Loader for 'zlib' is not available. 20:08:56 <dihedral> # 20:08:57 <dihedral> [2011-02-15 22:30:42] dbg: [net] Loading game failed, so a new (random) game will be started! 20:09:01 <dihedral> ^ it did tell us 20:09:10 * dihedral grr's at # 20:09:38 <He||isH> dihedral, 10x, i know how to use linux ];) 20:10:05 <He||isH> Ammler, Ãó 20:10:10 <He||isH> Ammler, yes 20:10:27 <Ammler> hmm, it does allow to build without zlib but not without lzma 20:10:34 <dihedral> He||isH, that's what many people say :-D 20:11:44 <dihedral> <- including me actually :-D hehe 20:12:13 <Ammler> He||isH: maybe the gentoo script is a bit silly, then you should report that to the maintainer there 20:12:31 <Mazur> planetmaker, would you like me to put up a new comment, with your patch, in my flyspray entry? 20:14:14 <planetmaker> if you like, sure 20:16:03 <Ammler> well, not maybe, without zlib is wrong 20:16:57 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@130.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]] 20:20:03 <Alberth> Mazur: dividing a number by 2 is too complicated? 20:23:23 <planetmaker> quite :-P 20:23:43 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-233-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:41:07 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop_] 20:50:13 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-55-178.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:00:10 *** welterde [welterde@thinkbase.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 21:08:15 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:10:36 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db188a3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 21:11:05 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cebf9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:44 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:04 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:05 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cebf9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:26 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 21:30:25 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:33:42 <Zuu> Hmm, so we have to wait 2 weeks for the title game poll result. 21:34:32 <Zuu> Good work with the title game poll planetmaker 21:34:54 <planetmaker> well, I want to give people some time to vote... 21:35:03 <planetmaker> which actually reminds me... title page :-) 21:36:00 <Zuu> Also I noticed that the final date is not in your forum post - only on the title game-website. 21:36:38 <Zuu> A note on the website would possible do quite a bit to the number of poll casts. 21:38:49 <planetmaker> good point with the closing date 21:38:54 <Zuu> Maybe a voteing template for usage in emails would help your work. Though just having to collect three votes for each person is also easier than voting method that we had last time. 21:39:22 <planetmaker> if you follow the link to my e-mail in the titlepage - it's a pre-made one :-) 21:39:29 <planetmaker> you just have to type in 3 numbers 21:39:51 <planetmaker> but it requires a configured e-mail client 21:41:14 <Zuu> Yes, and even while I have a configured email client that isn't that heavy, I really don't use it for outgoing email. 21:42:25 <Zuu> I guess a vast amount of people only ues web mail for their private emails. 21:43:10 <Zuu> But I see you have made a template there :-) 21:45:30 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 21:47:25 <planetmaker> http://pastebin.com/Rnx1qqBg <-- title page announcement (without links, I'll add them) 21:47:33 <planetmaker> comments? 21:47:48 *** ABCRic is now known as Guest1491 21:47:49 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@241.20.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 21:47:58 <Belugas> yes, i'm tired 21:48:46 <Rubidium> Zuu: email adds a (small) bit of a threshold for trying to fool the system 21:48:48 *** Guest1491 [~ABCRic@229.142.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:48:48 <Belugas> there is notong for point 2 and 4 and 6 21:48:53 <Belugas> thing 21:48:55 <Belugas> nothing 21:48:56 <Belugas> not a thing 21:48:57 <Rubidium> (or rather against trying to fool it) 21:49:08 <zydeco> I think they are lines, not points 21:49:14 <perk11> title game #12 is very nice, but why no vehicles :( 21:49:25 <Belugas> no, there are numbers with a dot 21:49:52 <Belugas> ho... yeah 21:49:53 <Belugas> right 21:49:55 <Belugas> whoooo... 21:49:56 <Zuu> Rubidium: I agree on that and I hope I didn't suggest that the act of sending an email should be removed. 21:50:18 <planetmaker> Na, LordMwa or alike suggested that 21:50:40 <Ammler> planetmaker: can I vote for the same game multiple times? 21:50:56 <Mazur> Alberth: It's not for just this game, I'd like to know it more precisely, also when it's not 50%, makes it also easier to track how a city's local traffic is behaving, if the percentage falls time and again, you knwo to go fix somthing. 21:51:15 <Zuu> Just that if you request people to follow a template when submitting votes, then you could possible reduce the work load for the person who has to count all the votes. 21:51:51 <Belugas> "Everyone may vote once and nominate and rank his or her top three entries." -> "Everyone may only vote once, nominating and ranking his or her top three entries." 21:52:09 <Zuu> This template could just be a bit of text to paste in your email and fill in your votes, just as what planetmaker already did - I just didn't see it. 21:53:28 <Belugas> "The decision on which of those entries will be used will be done in two steps, two voting rounds" -> 21:53:28 <Belugas> "The designation of winning entries will be done in two steps, two voting rounds" 21:55:11 <Belugas> "Upon closing of votes the results will be published and detail." -> "Upon closure of polls, the results will be published and detail." 21:55:48 <Mazur> Not: "detailed"? 21:56:04 <Mazur> Or "in detail"? 21:56:19 <planetmaker> Ammler: no 21:56:45 <planetmaker> a ranking means to not say "this one gets 1st, 2nd and 3rd place all at once" ;-) 21:57:30 <planetmaker> good ideas Belugas. Thanks 21:57:44 <zydeco> what results? who voted for what? 21:57:48 <zydeco> :p 21:57:56 <Zuu> If you want to promote one as much as you can, give 2nd and 3rd place to two in your opinion bad title games and hope not everyone else follow the same idea :-p 21:58:15 <Mazur> And what are their ICBM coordinates, so we may punish them? 21:58:49 <ABCRic> Zuu: so the 1st place will be the best and the 2nd and 3rd will be the worst? :D 21:59:36 <Zuu> If out of all those title games only can find one acceptable and want to play your cards that way, yes. 21:59:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:45 <Belugas> planetmaker, i could do more, but i need to go, i' 21:59:46 <Belugas> m 21:59:54 <Belugas> freaking tired and my wife awaits me 22:00:00 <Belugas> so.. bye for now 22:01:26 <Belugas> ho... and i have a Boss BD-2 pedal to try tonight :D 22:01:34 <planetmaker> bye Belugas & enjoy 22:01:38 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/en/ <-- zydeco 22:01:43 <planetmaker> latest news 22:02:13 <Zuu> ABCRic: Or you throw away your 2nd vote on the 1.1 title game :-) 22:02:20 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@83.169.3.115] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:37 <ABCRic> Zuu: too confusing :P :) 22:04:06 <Ammler> zuu, 9 is yours? 22:04:24 <TGYoshi> new title screen? 22:04:34 <Zuu> planetmaker: Btw the "all games" link in the news is broken. 22:04:54 <Zuu> Ammler: Yes 22:05:00 <planetmaker> Mazur: thanks, fixed, too 22:05:24 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22088 /branches/1.1/src/core/ (pool_func.hpp pool_type.hpp): [1.1] -Revert (r22041): assertions to check whether Pools are actually checked before allocation still triggered in some corner cases, so leave it in trunk but remove it from the 1.1 branch 22:05:39 <Mazur> Yw. 22:06:54 <__ln__> 06:45 22:07:49 <planetmaker> thanks, Zuu 22:09:06 <__ln__> 04:30 22:10:21 <__ln__> countdown paused 22:10:49 <planetmaker> hm? 22:11:20 <__ln__> http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ATV/SEM7VVLTRJG_0.html 22:11:40 *** TGYoshi [4da7286d@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:12:58 <__ln__> delayed until tomorrow 22:14:44 <planetmaker> ah. Well. That 4:30h is a deliberate check point 22:15:17 <__ln__> it actually paused at 04:01 22:23:05 <DanMacK> Later all 22:23:11 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:28:22 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-115.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:55 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f727588.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:39:17 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.187.94] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39:26 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@241.20.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Goodbye, world...] 22:40:06 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.187.94] has joined #openttd 22:41:25 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41:47 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:43:01 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-68-183-230-138.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 22:44:30 <planetmaker> well, happy voting folks, the first dozen people voted already :-) 22:44:40 <planetmaker> I'll sleep meanwhile :-) Good night 22:48:33 <Rubidium> good night oh maker of planets ;) 22:48:33 *** ar3k [~ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:50 *** ar3k [~ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 22:51:02 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 22:51:43 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 22:54:44 <Wolf01> 'night 22:54:57 <__ln__> night wolf01 22:55:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host194-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:56:31 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:47 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-233-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:03:43 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [Quit: asilv] 23:03:52 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:14 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:04:28 *** zydeco [~zydeco@163.165.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: miscellaneous hardware exception error] 23:18:24 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 23:20:14 *** ar3k [~ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:30 *** ar3k [~ident@ecc100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 23:23:47 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:15 *** mkv` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:25:32 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8761.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:28:32 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:00 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:25 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 23:50:13 *** APTX_ [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 23:51:03 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]