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00:07:34 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.12.7.215] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 00:11:25 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:39 *** varbles [~Varbles@adsl-067-035-108-029.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:28 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC2005.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 00:48:30 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 00:48:42 <DanMacK> Hey all 00:48:47 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-181-172.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 01:06:10 *** Markavian [~Markavian@197.073.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:21:03 <confound> hi 01:33:14 *** pikka [~yaaic@120.17.47.93] has joined #openttd 01:33:45 <pikka> wut wut 01:34:07 <DanMacK> whassup 01:39:36 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [] 01:53:16 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:53:34 *** Intexon_ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Quit: ...] 02:02:12 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x573c432e.espnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:02:33 <__ln__> @seen Bjarni 02:02:33 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <Bjarni> thanks 02:25:20 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:26:23 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-140-123.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:29:13 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 02:31:47 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-204-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:41:06 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:44:06 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:2588:db33:5e93:d893] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:12:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C680.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:34:29 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 03:34:38 <Nite> Hi 03:47:02 *** varbles [~Varbles@adsl-067-035-108-029.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:06:31 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 04:54:01 *** MrSieb [~01Mr@chello062178128065.5.13.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:05:43 *** fjb is now known as Guest306 05:05:44 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFDB55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:12:50 *** Guest306 [~frank@p5DDFDD56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:08:50 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 06:16:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CF6E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:20:30 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e01febd.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:22:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C680.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:26:49 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:27:04 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d086f96.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:36:24 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 06:39:15 <Terkhen> good morning 06:41:56 <Ammler> Morning 06:42:22 <Ammler> I miss the stolen hour from yesterday 06:45:03 <Terkhen> me too, I'll probably compensate it with a second coffee in a few hours :/ 06:45:10 <planetmaker> moin 06:45:17 <Terkhen> hi planetmaker 06:46:03 <planetmaker> hm, so you didn't steal that hour from me either, if you're missing an hour as well... 06:48:24 <planetmaker> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=166 <-- Russia does the right thing. 06:48:53 <Terkhen> look at it differently if you want: you did not lose an hour, you won more daylight time :) 06:49:28 <planetmaker> not really true... but actually yes 06:49:28 <Terkhen> but I'd gladly change it back for my lost sleeping hour myself 06:49:32 <Terkhen> :P 06:49:43 <planetmaker> haha :-) 07:09:15 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:11:17 *** MinchinWeb [~4e7e25bf@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 07:30:45 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:59 <Nite> little late but 07:31:31 <Nite> noone wins anything by manipulating the device "clock" 07:32:00 <Nite> ... and 07:33:30 <Nite> ... earlier we talked about how cool it would be to be able to build neutral raods, that do not belong to any player but to the authorities built in ... 07:39:11 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC2005.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:40:26 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 07:45:34 <Ammler> Nite: what happens to roads you build on a temporary created company, which then got removed again? 07:46:29 <Ammler> why does it matter, who belongs a road to? 07:47:36 <V453000> cause noobs use each others roads ... 07:47:59 <Nite> Ammler you know what happens to them, they get "neutral", and d would be nice to build them that way in first place 07:48:23 <V453000> so that anyone could vandalize them? 07:48:51 <Nite> it does mather because when you build cities/towns other players cannot remoove your roads 07:49:04 <Nite> and it woudl be nice if they could 07:49:30 <Nite> yes so that anyone could "vandalize" 07:50:07 <Nite> ... further we thought if this would also work with rail ... 07:50:14 <V453000> well, if you maintain cities _properly_, then 2 people is already too many in one town, so competition there is pointless, and secondly it would just bring too many disadvantades related to vandalism 07:50:43 <V453000> why? when you trust the other people so much, play with them in one company ... problem solved 07:51:05 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 07:51:23 <Nite> thats not true even 4 or more ppl could have statoins in town - its almost true for RV's ... 07:52:28 <Nite> we meant having the choice if roads are townowned (townroads everyone can change) or player owned 07:52:59 <Nite> one company sharing everything is a bit much 07:53:09 <Nite> or was in our case 07:53:44 <Nite> the point is it would make building towns without hindering other players very possible 07:54:27 <Nite> afaiu one will fiddle with newgrfs 07:55:25 <Ammler> Nite: so just use a dummy company "Town Infra" ;-) 07:56:30 *** MinchinWeb [~4e7e25bf@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:56:31 <Nite> did that already, and that was the occasion where the idea came up ... 07:56:57 <Nite> nd thx 08:02:45 *** ar3k [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:02:46 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 08:07:40 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC2005.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:11:10 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC585B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:17:23 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe35dc00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:29:27 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:48:50 <Nite> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1301163352 08:48:55 <Nite> "..." 08:54:01 <Lachie> ... 08:58:21 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:21:47 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 09:30:46 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B105D94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:37:10 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B104AFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:15 *** JOHNSHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 09:44:50 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:58:51 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 10:00:14 *** JOHNSHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:05:25 *** JOHNSHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:10:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:13:53 *** JOHNSHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:16:20 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:24:35 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 10:24:47 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.12.7.215] has joined #openttd 10:42:12 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:43:58 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 10:46:18 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:47:39 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 10:53:26 <DanMacK> Hey all 10:53:45 <Eddi|zuHause> who the hell would get to the idea that it was "HO" instead of "H0"? 10:53:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:55:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host193-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:55:52 <DanMacK> Because in the US it's usually written HO 10:56:19 <DanMacK> Just like 0 is written as 'O' 10:56:39 <Eddi|zuHause> so it's a "translation error" ;) 10:56:45 <DanMacK> Nobody calls it 'zero' gauge :P 10:57:11 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's called "H-Null" in german 10:57:44 <DanMacK> Yeah, we Westerners just call it HO :P 10:57:47 <Wolf01> hello 10:58:23 <DanMacK> So is O gauge called "null" then? 10:58:31 <Eddi|zuHause> never understood this english thing of calling "0" as "Oh" instead of "zero" 10:58:56 <Eddi|zuHause> DanMacK: yes. german is crazily logical sometimes ;) 10:59:07 <DanMacK> Hey, it makes sense 11:00:06 <peter1138> nought is more common than zero 11:02:43 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 11:02:54 <Eddi|zuHause> they are crazy - these british... 11:04:07 <peter1138> Here, "0.1" is more likely to be spoken as "nought point one" rather than "zero point one" 11:04:42 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what you get when everything has 5 different names, i guess... 11:05:53 *** Turbulentor [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:08:00 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3877.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:15:13 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:15:40 <DanMacK> Hey Andy 11:15:49 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 11:18:45 <Eddi|zuHause> when i search "H0" on google, i get 23 mio results, at least the first 100 of which are exclusively about model railroading. 11:19:30 <Eddi|zuHause> when i search for "HO" i get 600 mio results, none of which is about model railroading 11:22:19 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 11:22:33 *** MinchinWeb [~4e7e25bf@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:39:15 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-248-100.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:42:49 <XeryusTC> Eddi|zuHause read today's xkcd? :P 11:43:31 <Eddi|zuHause> XeryusTC: obviously. 11:44:07 <Eddi|zuHause> XeryusTC: after reading up on it, i decided it's an exclusively american problem. 11:45:28 <Eddi|zuHause> XeryusTC: the german wikipedia instead has a discussion whether it should be "Spur(weite) H0" or "NenngröÃe H0" ;) 11:46:19 <XeryusTC> what does nenngröse mean? 11:46:29 <XeryusTC> also, my keyboard refuses to make that weird s thing 11:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause> (that roughly relates to: is the defining thing the scale (1:87) or the track width (16,5mm)) 11:46:56 <Eddi|zuHause> XeryusTC: à is compose+ss 11:47:33 <Eddi|zuHause> on my keyboard, altgr+s works 11:47:57 <XeryusTC> it used to be ctrl+alt+s or something like that for me 11:48:03 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3877.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause> http://dict.leo.org/?search=nenngr%C3%B6%C3%9Fe 11:48:17 <XeryusTC> but y-chat has different a different opinion about every single key combination 11:50:26 <Eddi|zuHause> but enough about xkcd. breaking news: mysql.com has an sql-injection problem :p 11:50:48 <Eddi|zuHause> http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2011/Mar/309 11:52:29 <XeryusTC> :o 11:56:17 <SpComb> old hat 11:56:33 <SpComb> pasted a link about that over 12h ago! 11:56:48 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i'm slow. 12:00:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:34 *** pikka [~yaaic@120.17.47.93] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 12:16:30 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:37:24 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 12:44:13 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:52:13 *** MinchinWeb [~4e7e25bf@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:56:32 <Eddi|zuHause> the pirate party seems to stabilize around 1.5%-2.0% across germany 12:57:30 <Eddi|zuHause> which is far away from the 5% that it needs to enter a parliament 13:01:02 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 13:04:48 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f8e3:328f:cfd6:277f] has joined #openttd 13:04:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:10:58 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:20 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:26 <Belugas> hello 13:36:54 *** supermop [~daniel_er@pool-173-61-150-107.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:07 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: "He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane] 14:05:15 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 14:26:59 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 14:28:19 *** MinchinWeb [~4e7e25bf@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:34:21 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 14:35:49 <DanMacK> Hey all 14:37:21 <supermop> helli 14:37:22 <supermop> o 14:39:35 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni] 14:39:35 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. 14:39:37 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 14:39:38 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 15 hours, 17 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <Bjarni> thanks 14:40:52 <__ln__> nested commands? 14:41:01 <__ln__> @seen [seen Bjarni] 14:41:01 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: 'Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <Bjarni> thanks' is not a valid nick. 14:41:12 <__ln__> got it 14:41:17 <Sacro> hmmm 14:41:21 <Sacro> i wonder 14:41:40 <Sacro> will @calc [seen Sacro] work? 14:41:43 <Sacro> 43+54 14:42:02 <__ln__> @calc [seen Sacro] 14:42:02 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) 14:42:44 <__ln__> but yes the output of seen contains much more than the actual line 14:42:47 <Sacro> perhaps not 14:42:54 <Sacro> oh true 14:43:22 <Sacro> @seen [calc 3+4] 14:43:22 <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have not seen 7. 14:49:07 *** DanM [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 14:52:10 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:39 *** DanM is now known as DanMacK 15:10:00 <Eddi|zuHause> @base 10 16 [calc 2e6] 15:10:00 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1) 15:10:26 <Eddi|zuHause> @base 10 16 [calc 64] 15:10:26 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 40 15:10:32 <Eddi|zuHause> @base 10 16 [calc 6*10+4] 15:10:33 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 40 15:10:53 <Eddi|zuHause> that's interesting to know, actually ;) 15:17:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AD3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:57 *** Markavian [~Markavian@197.073.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:46 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 15:31:06 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e01febd.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:42:08 *** ar3k [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 15:43:37 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 15:47:27 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:52 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:06 *** Lord|Rayden [Grauer@ip-178-202-197-20.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 16:13:35 <Lord|Rayden> Hi! Jemand da?^^ 16:14:29 <__ln__> nein, es ist kein aquarium 16:14:57 <Lord|Rayden> aha 16:15:25 <confound> another channel I'm on has a bot that says "wait a minute and see, you dolt" in response to "anyone there?" 16:17:04 <Lord|Rayden> Habe ne frage zu version 1.0.5 ... und zwar zum LAN spiel ... ich mache auf dem einen rechner ein spiel auf, und will mit dem anderen rechner darauf zugreifen. das klappt auch, aber nach ein paar sekunden fliegt der client raus mit der meldung "Verbindung zum Netzwerkspiel verloren" woran kann das liegen? 16:18:07 <Lord|Rayden> der host rechner hat win7 und der zweite win98se, beide sind ÃŒber einen router verbunden 16:22:05 *** JOHN-SHEPARD_ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:22:20 <__ln__> funktioniert die verbindung zwischen die rechnern mit einen anderen spiel oder programm? 16:22:38 <Terkhen> @get -1 16:22:38 <DorpsGek> Terkhen: English only 16:22:48 <Lord|Rayden> ja, FTP klappt zum beispiel .. und dosbox auch 16:22:53 <Lord|Rayden> sry 16:23:02 <Lord|Rayden> ftp works and dosbox, too 16:25:46 <Lord|Rayden> is there any option to start in debug mode to see the exact error message? 16:27:27 *** JOHNSHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:54 <Lord|Rayden> same problem in internet mode .. i join the game, change my company name and after 20 seconds, i loose connection :( 16:31:00 <Rubidium> might be a router that thinks it's smart and rewrites what it thinks are ip addresses, causing invalid packets to arrive at OpenTTD 16:31:59 <Rubidium> alternatively the connection is not stable enough for OpenTTD; FTP doesn't care when it takes 20 seconds to recover a connection, but OpenTTD kills the connection after ~10 seconds 16:34:30 <__ln__> Lord|Rayden: when did you last reboot the router? 16:35:25 <Lord|Rayden> hmm some weeks ago 16:36:57 <__ln__> reboot it now and see if that helps. 16:37:10 <Lord|Rayden> ok, i'll try it 16:37:14 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-088-065-225-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:39:23 *** Lord|Rayden` [Grauer@ip-178-202-197-20.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 16:41:33 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 16:42:19 <Lord|Rayden`> it didn't help 16:45:07 <Lord|Rayden`> i wonder why everything else works .. for example dosbox .. i play transport tycoon over dosbox an it works fine ... it's a slightly slow in multiplayer mode ... maybe the ethernet adapter on my win98 machine slows it down? because its an onboard intel 10/100 16:45:30 *** Lord|Rayden [Grauer@ip-178-202-197-20.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:14 <planetmaker> The connection speed usually is not an issue. Possibly rather the connection quality 16:48:30 *** supermop [~daniel_er@pool-173-61-150-107.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: supermop] 16:48:42 *** MinchinWeb [~4e7e25bf@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:50:43 <Lord|Rayden`> hmm .. i also have the problem, that i have very slow download from the internet on the w98 machine .. i have a 32 mbit line, on the win7 machine everything is fine, but on win98 i have ~80-100 kb/s .. maybe i should check the network settings 16:51:08 <Lord|Rayden`> but i don't have a plan at all about this stuff^ 16:55:38 <glx> maybe an unoptimal MTU 16:56:30 <Lord|Rayden`> the mtu wasn't even set 16:56:44 <__ln__> it must still have some value 16:57:11 <glx> IIRC the default value in win9x was ok for 56k$ 16:57:14 <glx> -$ 16:58:35 <Lord|Rayden`> i downloaded a tool, "SG TCP/IP" optimizer" and it said the value for MTU was "N/A" .. now it is 1500 16:59:19 <Lord|Rayden`> it should be, at least ... 17:00:02 <glx> it was probably 576 then 17:00:05 *** MrSieb [~01Mr@chello062178128065.5.13.vie.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 17:06:47 *** JOHN-SHEPARD__ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:07:50 <Lord|Rayden`> hm... Client#16 is slow, try increasing *net_frame_frew to a higher value! | Client#16 is dropped because the client didn't respond for 4 Game-days 17:08:04 <Lord|Rayden`> that's what the console says 17:08:24 <Lord|Rayden`> *net_frame_freq 17:11:08 <Lord|Rayden`> how do i do this? 17:12:00 <Terkhen> set net_frame_freq value IIRC 17:12:19 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 17:14:20 *** JOHN-SHEPARD_ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:23 <glx> what's the map size ? 17:15:37 <Lord|Rayden`> 512*512 17:15:43 <glx> and the CPU ? 17:15:59 <Lord|Rayden`> it's an amd duron @1,2 ghz 17:16:33 <glx> that may explain the "client is slow" message 17:17:56 <Lord|Rayden`> where do i type the net_frame_freq stuff? the console says it was an unknown setting 17:18:58 <glx> it's a server setting 17:20:45 *** robotx [~robotx@141-70-75-133.user.wh-stuttgart.de] has joined #openttd 17:23:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590febb9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:39 <Lord|Rayden`> hm .. the multiplay.txt says: - net_frame_freq: 17:25:40 <Lord|Rayden`> change it in console with: net_frame_freq = <number> 17:25:40 <Lord|Rayden`> the number should be between the 0 and 10, not much higher. It indicates the delay between clicking and showing up. The higher, the more you notice it, but the less bandwidth you use. 17:25:40 <Lord|Rayden`> A good value for Internet-games is 2 or 3. 17:25:50 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-248-100.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:52 <Lord|Rayden`> but it does not work :( 17:27:55 <glx> must be done in server console (or with rcon) 17:28:19 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-10-104.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:28:25 <Lord|Rayden`> i am typing in server console 17:28:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-248-100.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:29:13 *** jstein778 [john@cpc1-gill8-0-0-cust299.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:30:12 <planetmaker> within openttd? 17:30:35 <Lord|Rayden`> when i type: net_frame_freq the console says: "Current value for 'frame_freq' is:'0' (min:0, max:100) 17:30:37 <Lord|Rayden`> yes 17:32:00 <glx> that's ok, you need to change it with set 17:32:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-92-187.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:23 <jstein778> hi there ! can I post a query ? how can I install zoom .tars into my data folder to be picked up in the game - I tied seaching all day but it is missing me !!! 17:32:49 <glx> you need to patch openttd for that IIRC 17:34:02 <planetmaker> jstein778: default openttd does not know about extra zoom 17:34:12 <jstein778> .. a patch ..many thanks for your kind assisance !!!! I assume the patch is plainly visible on the main zoom etc page ? 17:34:53 <planetmaker> probably 17:37:06 <jstein778> I downloaded the latest open ttd file few days ago it ran fine but wanted to try the zoom in graphics so I will try to find a/the patch .. many thanks then !! 17:37:35 <Lord|Rayden`> i can't change this setting .. no matter if i type set *net_frame_freq with or without the leading asterisk or if i type *frame_freq .. it always says, this was an unknown setting :((( 17:38:51 <Lord|Rayden`> ah 17:40:39 *** staN [~Miranda@p4FD868CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:42:22 <Lord|Rayden`> mh, although i set this value to 100, the client is still too slow :( 17:42:32 *** Ruudjah [~opera@86.93.109.194] has joined #openttd 17:42:43 *** Ruudjah [~opera@86.93.109.194] has left #openttd [] 17:43:12 <glx> then the map (and vehicle amount) is really too big for the client 17:45:46 *** jstein778 [john@cpc1-gill8-0-0-cust299.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 17:47:31 *** supermop [~daniel_er@pool-173-61-150-107.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:15 <Lord|Rayden`> wow, on a 64² it works^^ 17:48:28 <Lord|Rayden`> but this size is too ... tiny 17:49:44 <glx> 256*256 should be ok 17:51:28 <Lord|Rayden`> 10% cpu useage and 450MB/1024MB ram useage 17:56:59 <Lord|Rayden`> 256*256 seems to be to heavy 17:57:31 <Lord|Rayden`> ok now i know why the client looses connection .. 17:57:39 <Lord|Rayden`> thanks for the help, byebye^ 17:57:47 *** Lord|Rayden` [Grauer@ip-178-202-197-20.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:02:26 * Zuu wish there was an option to sort vehicles by state in the vehicle lists. (so that one can quicker find vehicles in depots through GUI) 18:03:53 <Zuu> Even more awsome it would be if the vehicle name was displayed in the vehicle lists so that I can much quicker see the state of my Clueless vehicles :-) 18:04:57 <Zuu> Sorting by order count would also be useful. 18:05:43 <Zuu> Hmm, I'm blind. 18:05:54 <Zuu> The names are actually in the vehicle list. :-p 18:08:02 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 18:19:06 *** robotx [~robotx@141-70-75-133.user.wh-stuttgart.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:28:39 *** andythenorth [~andy@80.229.121.87] has joined #openttd 18:28:44 <andythenorth> evenings 18:28:58 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 18:31:22 <supermop> hello 18:32:02 <planetmaker> heya andythenorth 18:35:14 <Zuu> Hmm, so vehicles without a custom name sort as "Road Vehicle #", but have no name displayed in the vehicle list. Sounds like weird logic to me. 18:36:46 *** sliddy [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 18:41:26 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFDB55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:42 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:15 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 18:45:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r22277 /trunk/src/lang/ (norwegian_nynorsk.txt unfinished/faroese.txt): 18:45:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: faroese - 26 changes by BuBu 18:45:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: norwegian_nynorsk - 57 changes by 2rB 18:59:03 <guru3> found a folder called 'ottd-wiki-ics' 18:59:07 <guru3> ahh, for the things done long ago 19:01:42 <guru3> a few of them are even still in use :3 19:07:30 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 19:14:26 *** andythenorth [~andy@80.229.121.87] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:19:57 <__ln__> http://xkcd.com/878/ 19:22:30 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-209-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:48:36 *** andythenorth [~andy@80.229.121.87] has joined #openttd 20:00:55 *** Intexon_ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 20:02:30 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3877.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:47 *** Intexon^ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 20:07:40 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:45 *** Intexon_ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:18 *** Intexon^ [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:41 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:26 *** sliddy [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:28:58 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host86-154-82-152.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:29:18 <LordAro> evening all 20:30:03 <LordAro> bjarni never came back then? :L 20:30:40 <__ln__> for you 'never' is less than 24 hours? 20:31:07 <LordAro> yeah :) 20:31:19 <LordAro> @seen bjarni 20:31:19 <DorpsGek> LordAro: bjarni was last seen in #openttd 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <Bjarni> thanks 20:31:56 *** ar3k [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:18 *** ar3k [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:32:20 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 20:32:49 *** Turbulentor is now known as TWerkhoven 20:32:54 <__ln__> 21 hours is exactly an eighth of a sennight 20:33:14 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: "He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane] 20:37:52 <LordAro> sennight? 20:39:06 <__ln__> seven days; some call it 'week' 20:48:16 <SmatZ> 'week'? never heard of that word 20:50:30 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: so it's a sixteenth of a fortnight? 20:50:43 <Eddi|zuHause> must be a conspiracy of some sort. 20:50:57 <Belugas> not week, geek. or weak? 20:51:05 <Belugas> or squeek! 20:51:13 <Wolf01> you need sleep 20:51:25 <Belugas> tongue in cheek 20:51:56 <Belugas> sheesh kebab! 20:52:11 <Belugas> Kish goonight 20:52:44 <Eddi|zuHause> seven days without water make one we(a|e)k? 20:56:27 <SmatZ> :) 21:01:38 <Belugas> night all :) 21:03:32 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-088-065-225-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: good night] 21:09:12 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:10:38 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590febb9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:53 <Terkhen> good night 21:17:40 *** Ruudjah [~opera@86.93.109.194] has joined #openttd 21:17:44 <Ruudjah> hi! 21:18:07 <Ruudjah> is there a table/list of conversion ratio between primary/secondary/tertiary cargo? 21:18:41 <Ruudjah> e.g. say I deliver 100 tons of grain (temp) to factory, how much goods do I get? 21:18:54 <Wolf01> mistery 21:19:33 <glx> usually it's 1 for 1, but you never get all the output 21:20:12 <glx> and when you deliver you get money, nothing else :) 21:28:55 *** Markavian [~Markavian@197.073.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:30:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Ruudjah: like glx said, it's 1:1, but it gets reduced by your transportation rating, so usually more like 3:2 21:30:23 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:54 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:31:27 <glx> anyway that's for standard industries, with newgrf it can be different 21:31:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Ruudjah: unless you use NewIndustries like FIRS, but that will tell you the ratio 21:34:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:37:41 *** varbles [~Varbles@adsl-067-035-108-029.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #openttd 21:42:15 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-248-100.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:46:05 <LordAro> night all 21:46:11 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host86-154-82-152.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:48:22 *** TWerkhoven [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 21:49:58 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 21:53:05 *** andythenorth [~andy@80.229.121.87] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:57:47 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AD3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CF6E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:41 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 22:08:28 <__ln__> 23:50 < Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: so it's a sixteenth of a fortnight? <-- correct 22:10:42 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:43 *** ar3k [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 22:18:45 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 22:22:20 <Ruudjah> so when I have 100% rating, I get 1:1 for every conversion between a lower to higher grade cargo 22:22:26 <Ruudjah> (sorry for late response) 22:23:05 <Ruudjah> usually it's 1 for 1 --> when is it not 'usual'? 22:25:01 <glx> with newgrf industries it can be whatever the author decides 22:27:06 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:21 *** supermop [~daniel_er@pool-173-61-150-107.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: supermop] 22:31:20 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 22:32:42 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:00 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3877.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:40 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:39 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d086f96.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 22:48:56 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 22:50:26 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe35dc00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:51:07 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.darnet.ru/humor/pics/new/%25C7%25D5%25D3%25C5%25CE%25C9%25C3%25D9/gusenici.htm 22:57:07 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: that is way too scary! 22:58:32 <SmatZ> .ru - only in Soviet Russia, maybe? 22:58:41 <SmatZ> (that should be .su though) 22:59:59 <SmatZ> */humor/* doesn't really match that pic 23:00:53 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:12 <glx> and that's dangerous 23:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, they're not my pictures 23:01:47 <Eddi|zuHause> but we had similar things in my childhood... 23:02:04 <Eddi|zuHause> "in soviet germany" :p 23:02:08 <SmatZ> :D 23:03:13 <glx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Processionary 23:03:22 <glx> should be these ones 23:03:56 <__ln__> i've seen something similar irl here... not on that scale, but trees covered with white stuff and those caterpillars 23:04:13 <SmatZ> looks quite dangerous, indeed 23:04:39 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: that reads evil. 23:05:21 <__ln__> oh, they are poisonous. gotta remember that next time. 23:05:30 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: but those are not oak trees in the pictures 23:06:13 <glx> trees are hard to determine with all these caterpillars 23:09:26 <SmatZ> why they haven't taken over the world yet? they seem to reproduce very quickly 23:10:00 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: it's balanced by environmental conditions and predators 23:10:35 <Wolf01> 'night 23:10:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host193-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:11:18 <SmatZ> right, I am surprised there are animals that eat poisonous (for people) moths 23:12:01 <Eddi|zuHause> that depends especially on how well the liver can extract the poison 23:12:38 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 23:12:46 <SmatZ> interesting 23:13:33 <Eddi|zuHause> it also works in the other direction: e.g. cats have very poor livers, even chocolate is poisonous for them 23:14:19 <SmatZ> :( 23:14:53 <Eddi|zuHause> this, however, is balanced by cats not tasting sweet, so they won't eat the chocolate anyway :p 23:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause> it's very difficult stuff actually, e.g. deer has higher tolerance for poison than humans, so when a deer eats berries or mushrooms, you can't deduce that you can eat them, too. 23:18:39 *** JOHN-SHEPARD__ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-67-84.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:41 <__ln__> how scary is this: http://www.nbl.fi/~nbl3392/kuvat/darkness.jpg 23:25:01 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25:18 *** ar3k [~ident@ebx98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 23:25:22 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 23:26:42 <glx> hehe 23:27:50 *** varbles [~Varbles@adsl-067-035-108-029.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:45 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: zodttd] 23:35:57 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:37:04 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 23:41:47 <Eddi|zuHause> looks evil :o 23:42:11 <Eddi|zuHause> these guys must develop a conspiracy! 23:42:23 *** varbles [~Varbles@adsl-067-035-108-029.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:29 <__ln__> yes, they wouldn't be sitting in dark candle light otherwise 23:43:23 <Eddi|zuHause> who is on the left? 23:44:02 <__ln__> that's what i've been trying to figure out 23:45:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the second one from the left should be me 23:45:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and the two on the right are Rubidium and TrueBrain, i believe 23:46:14 <__ln__> yes, and the one almost behind the bottle is probably Zuu 23:47:13 <Eddi|zuHause> could be planetmaker on the left 23:47:22 <SmatZ> and __ln__ too the photo 23:47:25 <SmatZ> took 23:48:11 <__ln__> yeah 23:48:27 <SmatZ> :) 23:49:05 <SmatZ> I am looking forward for next OpenTTD meet ... this time I won't forget the map home :) 23:49:46 <__ln__> @seen CIA-1 23:49:46 <DorpsGek> __ln__: CIA-1 was last seen in #openttd 5 hours, 4 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <CIA-1> OpenTTD: norwegian_nynorsk - 57 changes by 2rB 23:50:15 <__ln__> umm, that doesn't tell us the revision 23:50:37 <SmatZ> there hasn't been any non-translators commit in last ~4 days 23:51:10 <__ln__> ok, it's 22277, so still a while to r30k 23:51:24 <SmatZ> must... commit... more... 23:51:58 <SmatZ> FS#4564 can be split oseveral patches... though not all changes done there are meaningful 23:52:08 <SmatZ> and I would bet I have a diff that does the same somewhere :) 23:52:46 <SmatZ> still, it's nice to see there are people who care about (the smallest bits of) performance 23:52:47 <Eddi|zuHause> @commit 23:52:48 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Commit by translators :: r22277 /trunk/src/lang (norwegian_nynorsk.txt unfinished/faroese.txt) (2011-03-28 18:45:08 UTC) 23:52:49 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 23:52:50 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: faroese - 26 changes by BuBu 23:52:51 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: norwegian_nynorsk - 57 changes by 2rB 23:53:59 <Eddi|zuHause> every dev is working hard on getting 1.1.0 out :p 23:54:41 <Eddi|zuHause> must get Bjarni to commit more. that'll stir up the place :p 23:54:57 <SmatZ> it would be nice to get reply to some of the "Waiting for the reporter" bugs 23:58:59 <__ln__> r30k party in Libya? 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