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Log for #openttd on 23rd May 2011:
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06:41:22  <Terkhen> good morning
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09:23:44  <Terkhen> quiet, quiet morning :)
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09:24:00  * andythenorth -> work
09:24:04  <andythenorth> maybe everyone is playing YACD
09:24:10  * andythenorth -> -> work
09:24:10  <ChoHag_> Maybe everybody is busy making diagonal bridge or tunnel patches.
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09:27:33  <Terkhen> everyone but me is playing YACD? :(
09:27:42  <ChoHag_> I'm afraid to say that I am.
09:27:54  <ChoHag_> It makes for an interesting game with FIRS.
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10:21:41  <planetmaker> g'day
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15:47:11  <__ln__> end of discussion. the channel has become obsolete and will be closed.
15:47:37  * andythenorth waves bye to the channel
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15:47:45  <[NGE]Sachiel> o_O
15:49:55  <Terkhen> or we could start random kicks to liven up the channel
15:50:18  <planetmaker> nothing to see and talk about anyway. OpenTTD is 'done' I heart.
15:50:22  <Thorn_> I VOLTUNTEER
15:50:28  <planetmaker> Maybe it's missing and undo 'knob' though ;-)
15:50:29  <Thorn_> yeah i volunteer a kick just for that spelling actually
15:50:53  <planetmaker> @kick Thorn_ (indeed, can be fun)
15:50:53  *** Thorn_ was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [(indeed, can be fun)]
15:50:57  <planetmaker> :-D
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15:51:03  <Thorn_> :D
15:51:05  <planetmaker> he volunteered, right? :-)
15:51:43  <Terkhen> :P
15:51:47  <[NGE]Sachiel> u must use kickban, many peoples use autorejoin
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15:51:54  <[NGE]Sachiel> %)
15:52:08  <planetmaker> @kban [NGE]Sachiel 15 like this?
15:52:08  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: [NGE] is not in #openttd.
15:52:27  <Thorn_> (temptatation to point and laugh)
15:52:28  <styr> Hey. can somebody help me? :) where can i downloade openttd for mac?
15:52:29  <[NGE]Sachiel> 15?
15:52:34  <andythenorth> if someone kbans me, I might be able to spend more time doing other stuff
15:52:42  <andythenorth> like paid work, parenting...trivial stuff
15:52:56  <planetmaker> styr, help yourself and look in the obvious places
15:53:05  <Rubidium> trivial paid parenting work? You're a babysitter?
15:53:28  <styr> i dont know where to look
15:53:31  <styr> :S
15:53:42  <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org maybe?
15:53:48  <planetmaker> look in the top left
15:54:12  <Thorn_> i wonder how one can find the irc channel yet not the download appropriate for the platform
15:54:16  <Thorn_> :D
15:54:53  <planetmaker> maybe our download links are not obvious enough
15:55:55  <andythenorth> use a bigger icon
15:56:03  <andythenorth> like 256x256
15:56:55  <andythenorth> could detect the os and use conditional wording
15:57:01  <andythenorth> "Download OpenTTD for Mac
15:57:08  <planetmaker> that is already done...
15:57:10  <andythenorth> "Download OpenTTD for windows"
15:57:15  <andythenorth> not in the front page
15:57:28  <planetmaker> well. It'll be confusing, if you search for another OS
15:57:32  <andythenorth> true
15:57:40  <andythenorth> in gui design, every decision is wrong
15:57:42  <planetmaker> The download page offers you all OS.
15:57:49  <planetmaker> hehe :-) yes
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15:58:14  <andythenorth> it's trivial to imagine cases the gui doesn't meet
15:58:16  <andythenorth> and worry about thoese
15:58:18  <andythenorth> those /s
15:58:28  <planetmaker> indeed
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15:58:31  <andythenorth> could use the sidebar to list currently supported platforms (binaries)
15:59:17  <planetmaker> hm. There are actually even TWO download links on the main page
15:59:24  <planetmaker> Just noticed ;-)
16:00:15  <andythenorth> or put a strip of supported platforms in below main proposition block
16:00:26  <andythenorth> I was just drawing an example in photostrop, but it crashed :P
16:00:32  * andythenorth -> work
16:00:40  <planetmaker> that's why it's called Photostop :-P
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16:24:41  <planetmaker> styr, and if you haven't openttd running by now: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=54103 <-- picture story of how to get there ;-)
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17:24:09  <mib_sntbrc> hello
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17:36:23  <Wolf01> hello
17:38:39  <planetmaker> hi
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18:29:39  <andythenorth> evening
18:29:42  <andythenorth> all
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21:13:47  <Wolf01> 'night
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21:21:22  <andythenorth> hmm
21:21:25  <andythenorth> bedtime
21:23:48  <Terkhen> good night andythenorth
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22:04:48  <Terkhen> good night
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22:09:59  <Eddi|zuHause> "speed record: 26 terabit in one second"
22:11:23  <Prof_Frink> Or, as El Reg put it, "The profs' single laser, employed as a smut hose, would thus be able to simultaneously satisfy the demands of no less than 34,852 filth-hungry onanists - it is a 34.8 kilowrist pipe."
22:11:52  <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like it's from some discworld story...
22:15:50  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=144776 <-- why is there a red fence drawn _over_ the tower building in the upper airport?
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22:16:01  <__ln__> my external hard drive is 2 gigabytes big during one second.
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22:16:40  <Eddi|zuHause> 2 Gigabyte hard drive? is that from 15 years ago? :p
22:17:30  <glx> FAT16 max size
22:17:31  <__ln__> it's 2 TB in 1000 seconds.
22:17:49  <Eddi|zuHause> and can you transfer that over 50km in that time?
22:18:24  <__ln__> dunno, it's not very aerodynamic in shape
22:18:54  <Prof_Frink> Hmm, 26TB/s... You wouldn't need local storage, just bounce it around your network.
22:19:07  <__ln__> Tb/s
22:19:15  <Prof_Frink> That too.
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23:19:30  <gar> hey
23:19:35  <gar> anyone willing to help me
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23:21:52  <gar> somone
23:24:18  <gar> anyone...
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23:33:03  <gar> anyone
23:34:36  <DabuYu> gar - i suggest to shout out your problem and see if someone knows about it
23:35:02  <gar> ooo oky
23:35:10  <gar> welll how do i use valuables
23:35:36  <gar> i sent them to the other bank but  my truck just fills up and does nothing
23:35:36  <DabuYu> they transfer from bank to bank, so they can be tranfered both ways
23:35:51  <gar> and ur soppose to gain a profit right ?
23:35:59  <gar> i gain nothing not even lose....
23:36:00  <DabuYu> ah. does that place actually accepts valuables as well?
23:36:16  <gar> yes
23:37:22  <DabuYu> so you have 2 stations, both accepting valuables, right? then the truck should fill up at A, move to B, unload and get money at B, load up at B, move to A, unload and get money at A, and so forth
23:37:43  <gar> eerrmmmm more like
23:37:54  <gar> truck goes to train which goes to truck
23:38:06  <gar> but no money gain anywhere for some reason
23:38:10  <DabuYu> remember that the two stations need to be two different banks of course
23:38:28  <gar> yeah 2 different banks....
23:38:29  <DabuYu> when truck goes to train, you have to set the truck to 'transfer'
23:38:54  <gar> yeah
23:38:55  <gar> did
23:38:59  <DabuYu> hm
23:39:24  <DabuYu> you have a savegame?
23:39:53  <gar> i am playing it now
23:40:05  <gar> D": don;t get mad cuz i sux tho....
23:40:10  <DabuYu> oh okay
23:40:13  <DabuYu> don't worry
23:40:18  <DabuYu> everybody learns
23:40:30  <gar> oky u want me to send it to u
23:40:31  <gar> ?
23:40:41  <DabuYu> sure sounds good
23:40:49  <DabuYu> you run which version?
23:41:24  <Eddi|zuHause> transfer doesn't work in two directions
23:41:34  <gar> 1.1.0
23:41:37  <gar> it doesn;t?
23:41:43  <DabuYu> oh really Eddi|zuHause. that's sad
23:41:51  <Eddi|zuHause> you must do "transfer and leave empty"
23:41:51  <DabuYu> well then we probably know the problem :)
23:41:57  <Eddi|zuHause> so you can only do one direction
23:42:05  <gar> yeah that wha i do....
23:42:37  <gar> load my truck from station go to bank and transfer but no money gain
23:42:38  <Eddi|zuHause> the last truck must then do "unload and leave empty"
23:42:47  <gar> :o let me try
23:44:22  <gar> nop same problem no money
23:44:42  <Eddi|zuHause> it may take a few round trips to earn money
23:44:43  <gar> i unload and leave empty on the bank
23:44:49  <gar> oky....
23:45:50  <gar> omg ty
23:45:55  <gar> i got a profit 2 k xD
23:46:01  <gar> one more thing plz ....
23:46:04  <DabuYu> alright very good
23:46:27  <DabuYu> then we know that now too :) i didn't know either that transfer doesn't work both ways :)
23:46:59  <gar> when i try to move goods how come i lose money when transporting them in a city
23:46:59  <gar> xD sry
23:47:14  <DabuYu> lose?
23:47:25  <DabuYu> when it arrives you get negative income?
23:47:33  <Eddi|zuHause> gar: the transfer may overestimate the final income
23:47:57  <Eddi|zuHause> that difference is then displayed as "cost"
23:48:06  <Eddi|zuHause> you still earn money, though
23:48:29  <DabuYu> eddi knows everything hehe
23:48:35  <Eddi|zuHause> just less than expected
23:49:05  <gar> eerrmmm its just that my good that i am moving i lose 6 k every time i delever
23:49:45  <gar> and i want to deliever my goods to other towns....
23:50:22  <glx> it's not your goods :)
23:50:32  <gar> huh?
23:50:42  <glx> you are just a transporter
23:51:09  <gar> yeah but i am losing money when i transport them to other places XD
23:51:33  <glx> route longer than needed maybe
23:51:55  <gar> so more lenght =\
23:52:00  <gar> anther 200 maybe?
23:54:06  <gar> ty i quess
23:54:14  <gar> any tips for poor old me ?
23:55:53  <Yexo> are you still using transfer orders?
23:56:16  <Yexo> losing money when you deliver smells like wrong orders, or not understanding transfer order correctly
23:57:15  <gar> i tryed it all still losing money.... but oky
23:57:38  <Yexo> in that case it'd be best if you uploaded your savegame somewhere so we can take a look at it
23:57:56  <Yexo> problems section of the forum is fine, or any filedump site
23:58:56  <gar> its oky i will make due ty

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