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Then, your trains could roam free on the high seas. 07:03:59 <Prof_Frink> (Well, water half of diagonal coastline tiles) 07:04:17 <andythenorth> don't oppress me with your TTDPatch 07:04:28 <andythenorth> Opression! 07:04:30 <andythenorth> Witch! 07:04:36 <andythenorth> Burn them! 07:04:38 * Prof_Frink burns andythenorth 07:05:36 * andythenorth stops trolling forums 07:05:40 <andythenorth> and builds a lego 07:06:28 <andythenorth> I am too impatient to be a really good troll 07:35:34 *** bodis [~bodis@cpc3-ando3-0-0-cust781.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:44:04 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47:46 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 07:49:55 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-233-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 07:49:57 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-027-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:59:33 <planetmaker> moin 08:00:09 <andythenorth> hola 08:00:10 <planetmaker> hm... lego. Sorry, andy, my parabole works with wood blocks ;-) 08:00:17 <andythenorth> it wouldn't work with lego 08:00:28 <planetmaker> :-) 08:00:33 <andythenorth> I just spent the last hour fishing lego technic out of the baby 08:00:50 <planetmaker> lool :-) Lego and baby is exactly that phenomenon 08:00:59 *** luacs1998 [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:01:00 <planetmaker> not good going together 08:01:00 <Terkhen> good morning 08:01:03 <planetmaker> hi Terkhen 08:01:23 *** luacs1998 [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [] 08:01:50 *** luacs1998 [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:02:01 *** luacs1998 [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 08:05:05 <andythenorth> that thread is at least fun 08:05:19 <andythenorth> and I have respect for anyone trying to defend freedom 08:05:35 <andythenorth> it's quite silly to argue against that principle 08:05:46 <andythenorth> but I fear that if he's so easily defeated by Pikka... 08:05:54 <andythenorth> he might not be much use in the face of real oppression :o 08:06:02 <planetmaker> he 08:06:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008a58.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:06:27 * andythenorth would be useless as an opponent of opression 08:06:32 <planetmaker> nah, the point is he is using the freedom argument in a wrong way. Thus he was bound to loose 08:06:42 <planetmaker> hello frosch123 08:07:02 <planetmaker> Freedom never meant you can tell other people what they do for you for free 08:07:13 <frosch123> moin 08:07:27 <andythenorth> I did wonder if he's trying to enslave us 08:07:33 <andythenorth> I think it's a sustainable argument that he is 08:07:48 <planetmaker> sustainable in what way? 08:08:00 <andythenorth> he's trying to corral our labour for free 08:08:02 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 08:08:13 <andythenorth> and control the way in which we make decisions 08:09:03 <andythenorth> it's an act of hegemony - and he tries to support it with a call to a higher principle 08:09:19 <planetmaker> :-) yup, quite so. Thus the 'freedom argument' is actually quite ill-used and a good red herring 08:09:20 <andythenorth> thereby trying to subjugate us and assert that our subjugation is actually part of the natural order 08:09:37 <planetmaker> Bad for he it was looked through 08:09:52 <planetmaker> s/he/him/ 08:10:22 <andythenorth> it's a direct analogy with the use of (e.g.) christianity to justify slavery in European colonialism 08:10:33 <andythenorth> not even a metaphor - directly compares 08:10:58 <planetmaker> :-) Feel free to lay out that analogy within that thread. Might be fun 08:11:07 <andythenorth> going to the park with the child :) 08:11:22 <planetmaker> and I'd consider that argument still somewhat on-topic in that ridiculous thread ;-) 08:11:28 <planetmaker> sounds more fruitful 08:11:42 <andythenorth> I am enslaved by my child somewhat :P 08:11:55 <andythenorth> which is approximately equivalent to being enslaved by my own genes 08:12:01 <andythenorth> so I enslaved myself :P 08:12:11 <planetmaker> that's (hopefully) a freely made decision ;-) 08:12:30 <andythenorth> freely, or made by a genetic urge? 08:12:34 <planetmaker> (and not like "dear andy, you know we always paid attention, but...) :-P 08:13:03 <andythenorth> more like enslaved by some desire to replicate 08:13:11 <andythenorth> it's possibly a virus 08:13:14 <planetmaker> is that slavery? ;-) 08:13:17 <andythenorth> or at least parasitic 08:13:22 <planetmaker> haha 08:13:36 <andythenorth> probably qualifies at least as an enslaving meme 08:13:45 <andythenorth> anyway, I made a boat in FISH 08:13:51 <andythenorth> so that's 1 step closer to next release 08:14:16 <planetmaker> you enslaved the sprites! 08:16:21 <andythenorth> they didn't complain :P 08:18:11 <andythenorth> next release should have 3-4 new ships in 08:18:19 <andythenorth> I am sulking about the Tow Boats and they are removed 08:18:29 <planetmaker> oh :-( 08:18:59 <andythenorth> they're not deleted 08:19:04 <andythenorth> they'll return 08:19:19 <planetmaker> well. Just make them unavailable in order to not break compatibility 08:19:30 <andythenorth> oh yes 08:19:31 <planetmaker> :-) 08:20:42 <andythenorth> done 08:20:45 * andythenorth bbl 08:20:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.231.50] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:28:57 <peter1138> hmm, wii... scart cable or component cable? 08:35:13 <__ln__> peter1138: do you like playing old nes games and such? 08:35:56 <peter1138> erm, i've got a couple on the virtual console thingy 08:36:58 <__ln__> with the component cable there's a chance you won't see the picture in some. 08:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a scart to component adapter, if that counts ;) 08:39:23 <__ln__> that's because the games use quite unusual modes (like progressive small resolution), and a lot of televisions do not understand those. 08:39:53 <__ln__> some virtual console games have a workaround for that, but not all. 08:59:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:02:13 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:26 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:54 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:08:54 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-124-226.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:14:12 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:14:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:16:27 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:19:38 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3C63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:21:49 <Terkhen> hmm... I was going to answer at the unfreedom thread but now it looks "done" to me 09:22:30 <Terkhen> just "you can still do it with the current solution, and our solution requires zero extra work and has none of the issues we mentioned and you failed to address" 09:22:42 <Terkhen> but... whatever 09:22:45 <Terkhen> :P 09:23:27 * Alberth thankfully missed that part :) 09:24:35 <Terkhen> :) 09:25:31 <frosch123> that thread turned into something completely different on every page :p 09:27:19 <Terkhen> :P 09:43:06 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:43:21 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 09:53:18 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:53:33 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 10:13:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:27:54 *** squiggy [5b2e1de3@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:28:17 *** squiggy [5b2e1de3@ircip3.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 10:28:26 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 10:30:06 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d820175.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:37:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-111-196.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 10:39:07 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3C63.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 10:50:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFFB0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:51:52 <fjb> Moin. 10:52:54 <Alberth> moin 10:54:18 <Alberth> can smoke effects of industries get shifted in time? two chimneys of the OpenGFX industries power plant smoking exactly in sync looks weird 10:58:13 <Terkhen> the smoke of default industries is handled by OpenTTD code 10:58:37 <Terkhen> and IIRC that code is not used for smoke effects in NewGRF industries 11:00:45 <planetmaker> yep 11:01:16 <andythenorth> Alberth: it can be handled in nfo 11:01:27 <andythenorth> smoke is bugged anyway :P 11:01:46 <andythenorth> providing an effect vehicle framework would be an awesome addition 11:01:53 <andythenorth> doesn't have to be massively complex 11:02:48 *** flitz [~me@dslb-188-107-125-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:08 <Terkhen> I swear that the rate at which small changes become huge ones has been increasing lately 11:03:19 <Terkhen> now they only need a few minutes instead of a few hours of discussion :P 11:03:31 <andythenorth> the small things get discussed n times 11:03:39 <andythenorth> and so turn into a general solution :P 11:03:46 <andythenorth> or at least....the idea of a general solution 11:03:54 <andythenorth> maybe it's a bad pattern 11:03:56 <Terkhen> we should focus on a general solution for all general solution instead 11:04:11 <andythenorth> the focus on a general solution means the small thing remains unsolved 11:04:12 <andythenorth> :P 11:04:16 <Terkhen> :D 11:08:00 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:09:47 <flitz> Eddi: your tip yesterday was worth gold 11:10:21 <flitz> had I started with template creation instead of drawing, I could have saved a lot of unnecessary work :D 11:10:43 <planetmaker> andythenorth: sometimes: yes. But often a small solution would be worse in the mid- to long-range 11:10:58 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@D979B08F.cm-3-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:11:06 <planetmaker> and we'd end up with totally unhandable specs 11:11:16 <andythenorth> and right now we have...? :P 11:11:21 * andythenorth is being facetious 11:11:32 <andythenorth> the vehicle specs are fine 11:11:48 <andythenorth> I have spent too much time in industry code which is a world of small solutions 11:12:11 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:13:11 <peter1138> hmm 11:13:12 <peter1138> great 11:13:19 <peter1138> the holes in the back of the old telly are... just holes 11:13:28 <peter1138> not holes for screwing into for mounting it :S 11:16:54 <andythenorth> did you find that out before or after attaching it ? 11:19:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6C82A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:19:28 *** LordPixaII [~Pixa@79-68-105-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 11:24:32 *** Pixa [~Pixa@79-68-108-159.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:26:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.161.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:36 <peter1138> heh, before :p 11:27:42 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.231.50] has joined #openttd 11:29:09 <peter1138> heh, before :p 11:32:25 <peter1138> hmm, maybe some shelving instead :S 11:32:32 <peter1138> it's only 16kg 11:33:05 <peter1138> problem is telly stands usually stick out way further than the screen :S 11:34:11 * andythenorth is looking at pictures of singapore 11:34:14 <andythenorth> looks like ttd 11:34:40 <Alberth> depends on the density of towns :) 11:34:43 <__ln__> andythenorth: don't tell Belugas 11:35:32 <frosch123> damn, can i somehow configure hg to show relative paths to the current working dir, instead of from the repository root 11:37:09 <Alberth> other than using a terminal with cwd == repository root, I have not found a way so far 11:38:08 <Alberth> I am also not totally convinced it would be an improvement; bzr had it, and that was confusing too 11:45:36 <andythenorth> hmm 11:45:51 <andythenorth> some FISH ships have mail capacity = passenger capacity 11:45:53 <andythenorth> seems a bit high 11:50:08 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:20f7:38d8:bd5e:93ca] has joined #openttd 11:50:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:02:53 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 12:05:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.231.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:07:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:08:13 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:18:02 *** ar3k [~ident@ebp222.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 12:22:07 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: The Third Tiberium War - http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-third-tiberium-war] 12:25:22 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebq139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:08 *** Juo_ [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:27:09 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27:09 *** Juo_ is now known as Juo 12:35:55 *** MNIM2 [~LiesLies@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Quit: They see you trollin, they bannin'] 12:48:17 *** tony [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:48:24 <tony> hi 12:51:19 <tony> i have little bit trouble with openttd version 1.1.1 with LAN mode, i'm use in the server windows XP, and the client W7, and in the server always works fine.. in both machine have firewall down... and when the client connect to the server in 10 or 15 seconds start laggy and lost connection.. when start again client into server again happend same... :( if i revert the server for W7 the XP client happend same too.. how can i fix that? 12:54:47 *** flitz [~me@dslb-188-107-125-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: flitz] 12:56:18 <planetmaker> hm, has it always been that way, that openttd uses the cfg relative to the current dir and not relative to the binary dir? I guess so... 12:59:29 <Alberth> tony: did you try smaller maps ? 12:59:34 <Alberth> or less vehicles? 12:59:55 <tony> i use the yorkshire map 13:00:24 <tony> but if it is LAN mode with wire cable.. how can is laggy.. or it is a problem use maps more than 1024x1024 ? 13:00:41 <Alberth> that means nothing to me :) but you are looking for causes, and doing a few experiments can give you an idea of a cause 13:00:51 <tony> oh. he 13:00:56 <tony> ok i understood... 13:01:05 <tony> less vehicle no... 13:01:14 <tony> because that happend starting the game 13:01:19 <tony> and.. look 13:01:22 <tony> if i play in the internet mode 13:01:22 <Alberth> I don't expect problems on a LAN, but that would imply your map works too :) 13:01:25 <tony> works fine 13:02:14 <Alberth> you could also try swapping the machine that is the server 13:02:50 <tony> i did that 13:03:27 <tony> my 1st scenary is XP as server and W7 as client the server works fine when client connect laggy and disconnect.. after 10 seconds 'cause laggy 13:03:38 <tony> and reverting machines W7 server XP client same thing 13:05:41 <Alberth> sorry, but I have not enough knowledge of the network part to know what is going on 13:06:07 <tony> erm... it is a problem if i want to install normal mode.. and after that copy all directory father c:\openttd\* to my other partition?... 13:06:12 <Alberth> did you look at CPU load? 13:06:50 <tony> cpu is ok because the server game works fine.. maybe have to compare when client connect.. :| 13:07:22 <Alberth> being a linux user, I really don't know anything about the windows file system :( 13:08:25 <Alberth> one other option is that some software is messing with your network connection 13:09:05 <Alberth> or your router perhaps :p 13:09:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 13:09:21 <tony> i disable all about that softw like antivirus .. win updates.. jdownloaders 13:09:45 <tony> i try now only simple and clean instalation to look 13:10:38 <Alberth> did you search the forum for clues what might be wrong? 13:11:09 <tony> yes i do.. i looking and all forums post i found have other troubles .. with LAN all fine.. 13:11:48 <tony> oh 13:12:03 <tony> i try openttd dedicate server with -D option and nothing either 13:14:07 <Eddi|zuHause> so... did you actually try with a smaller map? 13:15:53 <Alberth> tony: LAN is not a good keyword, 'laggy' is what you should look for. a LAN is just a fast internet, that is, it is not special. 13:17:15 <Alberth> did you try another program to connect between the machines? 13:23:26 <tony> Eddi|zuHause: not yet. i try now.. 13:23:49 <tony> Alberth: no programs between machines only the cable simple 192.168.0.0/24 as class C and the game... 13:24:08 <tony> i reinstall the game now.. i try .. i reinstall again the client.. and have to make some test... 13:24:31 <tony> thanxs to all :) sorry by my english i'm latin. 13:25:28 *** tony [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 13:49:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i doubt he meant "latin" as in "from ancient rome" 13:51:13 <__ln__> zomfg, just a couple of days ago i was looking for a native ancient roman to describe latin pronunciation, and now there was one here. 14:13:58 <Rubidium> I would've said there's no nationality ending with "in", but then I'd be wrong ;) 14:15:05 <Eddi|zuHause> in german, words ending in "-in" usually describe a female person ;) 14:16:23 <Rubidium> and for those wondering, it's Montenegrin 14:18:08 <Eddi|zuHause> so in german, a female person from montenegro would be a "montenegrinin" ;) 14:19:47 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:50 <Rubidium> not Montenegrinerin? 14:20:51 <Rubidium> or is that plural + in? 14:23:29 <Eddi|zuHause> that's possible, too, but it sounds odd... 14:23:57 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: something's still wrong with the dependency. i changed some includes, and now i get this: 14:24:02 <Eddi|zuHause> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/363/ 14:25:19 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: includes have to be relative to where you include something 14:25:49 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: yes, but that is not the problem. dep check fails on a file that is deleted, and not included from anywhere anymore 14:26:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:26:44 <planetmaker> hm, yes... 14:27:47 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: it works correctly after a make clean 14:29:10 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i'm not entirely sure what the rules are on when to attach the -in to the -er and when to replace it 14:30:15 <planetmaker> 16:15 Eddi|zuHause: in german, words ending in "-in" usually describe a female person ;) <-- like "Bein" ? ;-) 14:31:00 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: if you speak it "Be - in", yes ;) 14:32:20 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: sadly enough make always fails when files are removed; don't think you can do much about that :( 14:33:09 <planetmaker> oh, ... so it's a one-time removal only? Yes... that's very hard to impossible to solve 14:33:53 <planetmaker> unless I rescan every dependency every time 14:34:25 <planetmaker> in which case I don't need the dep check as it only will eat time instead of save anything anywhere 14:34:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22684 /branches/1.1/ (23 files in 3 dirs): 14:34:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.1] -Backport from trunk: 14:34:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Change: [NewGRF] Only allow access (via hotkey and menu) to the bounding box visualisation when NewGRF developer tools are enabled (r22675) 14:34:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Disallow accessing variable 1B in network games due to desync reasons (r22682) 14:34:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Update: languages 14:38:18 <frosch123> german is all about the one thing. men wear female trousers, woman wear male skirts 14:39:24 <Eddi|zuHause> the world would be truely boring if genders wouldn't mix constantly :p 14:43:43 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22685 /branches/1.1/ (9 files in 7 dirs): [1.1] -Prepare: 1.1.2-RC1 14:44:10 *** opa [mznDjZdH@rikki.fi] has left #openttd [] 14:47:30 <__ln__> Stalin 14:48:40 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22686 /tags/1.1.2-RC1/ (. src/os/windows/ottdres.rc.in src/rev.cpp.in): -Release 1.1.2-RC1 14:50:56 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: that hardly counts as a german word 14:54:59 *** bryjen [~bryjen@76.92.85.169] has joined #openttd 15:03:07 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:20:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host152-94-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 15:20:45 <Wolf01> hello 15:20:45 <__ln__> hi Wolf01 15:26:03 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3C63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:03 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 15:42:30 *** giorgio [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:43:11 <giorgio> hi 15:45:49 <giorgio> ... 15:46:32 *** toams [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:46:36 *** LordAro [56951e1e@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:47:35 *** toams [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [] 15:48:17 <giorgio> how can there be so many people, but no-one active...? 15:51:39 <planetmaker> yes, hello 15:51:50 <__ln__> we have a relatively high signal-to-noise ratio 15:52:08 <giorgio> fair enough 15:52:20 <planetmaker> __ln__: rather the noise filter is set to rigerous settings ;-) 15:53:29 <giorgio> if its possible to answer such a question, i would appriciate it... I have not played since version 0.7, should i just dive straight into the new version, or are there things i need to know (big differences etc.)? 15:55:00 <planetmaker> just try and see? 15:55:04 <frosch123> since 0.7? no, i think there is nothing which is not obvious from the gui 15:55:16 <planetmaker> :-D 15:55:49 <planetmaker> frosch123: the totally unused admin port :-( 15:55:57 <giorgio> ok, great 15:56:02 <frosch123> giorgio: though you may set bigger fonts in openttd.cfg if you like 15:57:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling some of the template dimensions are not right 15:57:18 <Eddi|zuHause> like a pixel too wide 15:57:39 * planetmaker steals a pixel from Eddi|zuHause 16:01:52 <Eddi|zuHause> would be nice to get a list of all manually adjusted sprites from the sprite adjuster 16:04:32 * giorgio test 16:05:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:06:12 <andythenorth> lo 16:06:29 <giorgio> afternoon 16:10:11 *** rait [4de95070@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:11:15 <rait> evening all. Could someone point me in the right direction on how to create a town names list? 16:12:05 <__ln__> nowadays the answer for everything is 'newgrf'. 16:12:22 <rait> yeah, that much I managed to gather from the wiki 16:12:34 <rait> was hoping to find a tutorial or something for the town names part 16:20:49 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/townnames <- dozen of examples for townnames 16:24:53 <planetmaker> the completely pre-processed source code usually is found in the compile farm's output: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ 16:25:06 <planetmaker> then you do not have to use a VCS and build system 16:25:22 <planetmaker> as most townname newgrfs on that address require one in order to build 16:25:53 <planetmaker> and yes, also get nml from that last link. get the newest nightly version 16:26:14 <__ln__> what will happen to the old non-grf name generators? 16:26:18 <rait> thanks 16:26:31 <planetmaker> __ln__: remain there in order to not break savegames 16:26:51 <planetmaker> maybe we sh/could unexpose them from the GUI though. Questionable though why we should do that 16:27:23 *** giorgio [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:28:21 <__ln__> to make the game unusable without an internet connection 16:29:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust387.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:30:59 <Eddi|zuHause> the gui could use a few improvements: on loading a town name newgrf, it should automatically choose the first newgrf town name generator, and on unloading the grf, it should automatically switch back to the previous non-grf town name generator 16:32:12 <__ln__> does someone want to answer a stupid technical question? 16:33:05 <Eddi|zuHause> does someone want to ask a metaquestion? 16:33:46 <__ln__> as far as i understand generators cannot be altered because they should always produce the same results on all inputs in order to maintain savegame compatibility... 16:34:44 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but they were already altered. e.g. all TTD savegames with german town names get screwed... 16:34:57 <__ln__> but since towns can be renamed to arbitrary values, there has to be a way to store the name of a town as a string rather than a sort of seed for the generator... 16:35:27 <__ln__> ... so why not store them as strings always, and then the generators could be freely altered and it wouldn't mess up old savegames? 16:35:48 <Eddi|zuHause> that was originally not done because there were only very few "slots" for custom names 16:36:08 <__ln__> and now? 16:36:43 <Eddi|zuHause> now it makes no sense to switch, because a) the old system works, and b) the old system needs to stay anyway because of the old savegames 16:37:01 <Eddi|zuHause> there is nothing to gain 16:38:22 <__ln__> i'm partially responsible for breaking savegame compatibility of the finnish generator. not that i've ever heard anyone complain about that. 16:40:20 <__ln__> though i don't think the problem was recognized at the time. 16:42:00 <planetmaker> Well... then the same scheme might also want to be applied to station names etc. But then the translation of the auto-generated names would be gone... 16:42:08 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.153.138.66] has joined #openttd 16:44:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i never saw much sense in translating the station names on the fly... 16:45:34 <Eddi|zuHause> station placement command then needs to pass a language ID, though 16:47:01 <planetmaker> hm... multiplayer might be solved by the client sending the station name to the server. 16:47:22 <planetmaker> It'd get funky names in coop... but that'd be ok, I guess 16:47:53 <planetmaker> But I see much sense in offering default station naming according to localization 16:47:56 <Eddi|zuHause> you'd get "duplicate" names where you couldn't before 16:48:10 <planetmaker> hu? 16:48:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean: one player can build a "XXX Factory" station, and the other a "XXX Fabrik" station 16:48:53 <planetmaker> currently that's feasible to have two such stations 16:48:53 <Eddi|zuHause> because they are not "duplicate" in the literal sense 16:49:00 <planetmaker> one game-named, the other custom-named 16:49:10 <planetmaker> looking exactly identical 16:49:12 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, even more, because game-named can be duplicate 16:49:25 <planetmaker> that can be currently. yes 16:49:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that won't be possible anymore 16:49:50 <Eddi|zuHause> which might be a good thing 16:49:55 <planetmaker> maybe, yes 16:50:29 <planetmaker> where did *someone* go? He's always hiding :-( 16:52:48 <Eddi|zuHause> the "reset name" and autorename-on-town-name-change features won't work anymore 16:54:53 *** LordPixaII [~Pixa@79-68-105-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:59:42 <Eddi|zuHause> # und der Gabelstaplerfahrer mit der Stapelgabel prahlt, 16:59:59 <planetmaker> yes... but a simple button in the SE "rename towns" would do the trick 17:00:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.231.50] has joined #openttd 17:23:53 *** Sacro [~ben@82.113.183.190] has joined #openttd 17:44:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.231.50] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:45:11 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22687 /trunk/src/lang/catalan.txt: 17:45:11 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:11 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: catalan - 6 changes by arnau 17:48:05 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d820175.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 17:48:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.231.50] has joined #openttd 17:52:26 *** AD [wilberforc@drinks.mountaindew.org] has left #openttd [] 18:03:32 *** AD [wilberforc@drinks.mountaindew.org] has joined #openttd 18:17:04 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 18:22:56 *** Sacro_ [~ben@82.113.183.190] has joined #openttd 18:22:56 *** Sacro [~ben@82.113.183.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:11 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:26:04 *** LordAro [56951e1e@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:31:48 *** Sacro [~ben@82.113.183.190] has joined #openttd 18:31:48 *** Sacro_ [~ben@82.113.183.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:17 *** snorre [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 18:41:46 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d820175.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:54 <Sacro> hang on 18:46:57 <Sacro> wrong channel 18:47:44 * frosch123 wonders whether admiralai is named admiralai because it does not use ships 18:48:21 *** snorre [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:48:27 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has quit [Quit: www.sacnr.com] 18:48:57 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has joined #openttd 18:50:49 * andythenorth is surprised how scaling down a ship almost works - if you use the right photoshop interpolation settings 18:50:59 <andythenorth> 3 sizes of ship for free? 18:51:03 <andythenorth> not bloody likely :P 18:51:28 <planetmaker> http://pastebin.com/jmKGKTvj <-- frosch123, it rulez them all ;-) 18:52:04 <planetmaker> (scroll down - though I haven't quite followed the ranking rules yet, seems 'interesting') 18:53:01 <planetmaker> probably from the ranking in the games agains eachother 18:53:06 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@82.152.165.55] has joined #openttd 18:56:03 <andythenorth> can you get them to play prisoner's dilemma ? :P 18:57:19 <__ln__> andythenorth: then someone would argue the ships are photoshopped 18:57:22 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evolution_of_Cooperation 18:59:24 <frosch123> planetmaker: i thought nocab is considered the most competive one 18:59:59 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.153.138.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:43 <planetmaker> frosch123: yes... I'm surprised. One year is not a good measure, though 19:03:03 <Zuu> Nice to see that PAXLink got to play a bit and it does seem to do okay. :-) 19:03:16 <Zuu> But indeed one year is quite short to say anything. 19:03:46 <Zuu> PAXLink will not have any use for its seecret wepon - the pair optimizer :-p 19:05:09 *** LordAro [56951e1e@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:09:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not understanding the points 19:12:07 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/365/ <-- does that help, Eddi|zuHause? 19:13:17 <Eddi|zuHause> no, absolutely not. 19:13:45 <planetmaker> Ok :-P 19:13:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i meant the points on the right 19:13:48 <Eddi|zuHause> road profit ( 16275 / 33355) 19:13:54 <Eddi|zuHause> what do these numbers mean? 19:14:08 <planetmaker> tentative answer: profit / best AI 19:14:28 <planetmaker> but I don't quite know yet :P 19:15:10 <Eddi|zuHause> oh. i guess it's confusing because it's not sorted by rounds 19:16:50 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't see who competed against who, so you can't easily compare the numbers 19:20:17 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/366/ 19:23:38 *** Sacro [~ben@82.113.183.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:41 <Wolf01> 'night 19:24:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host152-94-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:27:58 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 19:29:14 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has quit [Quit: www.sacnr.com] 19:30:44 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has joined #openttd 19:35:08 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has quit [] 19:35:15 *** Emmy [~Emmy@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:35:38 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has joined #openttd 19:38:13 <Emmy> oh motherfucking hell, X-chat 19:39:06 *** Emmy [~Emmy@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 19:39:15 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:39:57 <MNIM> Seriously. I spent 15 minutes trying to edit it's serverlist to get it to boot up properly. 19:40:40 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=55915&p=959619#p959619 <-- update with 12 year test with 5 AI 19:40:44 <planetmaker> ^^ Zuu 19:41:14 <MNIM> twelve year of game development, or twelve year of game time? :P 19:47:45 *** quigon [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:48:00 *** quigon [~0a0a6567@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [] 19:49:38 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:52:58 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: The Third Tiberium War - http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-third-tiberium-war] 20:01:26 *** LordAro [56951e1e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:01:51 <LordAro> evenings 20:02:07 *** rait [4de95070@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:02:36 <planetmaker> hi LordAro 20:04:37 <LordAro> hi planetmaker 20:08:50 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has quit [Quit: www.sacnr.com] 20:09:20 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has joined #openttd 20:10:16 <LordAro> readme viewer is still failing (i.e. i'm stuck again) http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/367/ ,<-- that is my hacked together function, which doesn't work (displays 3 '?' and occasionally some other random characters), also, the commented out lines cause seg faults, and the function/window updates itself each tick, which is bad for memory usage, meaning that 20:10:32 <LordAro> the program eventually crashes with out of memory errors. help? :) 20:11:34 *** Twerkhoven[L] [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:11:56 *** snorre [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 20:13:06 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-222-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13:31 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-222-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:24 <glx> LordAro: '?' are unrecognised/invalid chars 20:14:35 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.68] has joined #openttd 20:15:38 <Rubidium> 1) if FioFOpenFileTar returns NULL you can't trust the value of filesize. Given it's allocated on the stack it can be anything, so OOM could very well come from that 20:15:47 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:16:05 *** Blacklite [~Blacklite@76.10.223.136] has joined #openttd 20:16:33 <Rubidium> 2) don't print (debug) a string that is just allocated. It contains garbage and is possibly not properly terminated, so you'd be printing garbage, reading out of bounds and segfaulting 20:17:42 <Rubidium> 3) assigning "" to test at line 6 is pointless if you overwrite it again later on 20:18:06 <Rubidium> 4) if you don't/can't print anything, just return out of the function 20:18:15 <Rubidium> so line 6 gets a return 20:18:27 <Rubidium> between 10 and 11: if (readme == NULL) return; 20:19:12 <Rubidium> 5) don't dereference a file pointer; FILE *readme = FioF.... 20:19:58 <LordAro> oh yes, that didn't work either, i think it needed FILE readme = *FioF... (?) 20:20:19 <Rubidium> that is definitely a sign of doing something very wrong 20:20:26 <glx> that's plain wrong :) 20:20:49 <Rubidium> if you get a pointer and you have to give it to some other function, do not dereference it ever 20:21:26 <LordAro> as you might have guessed, i _really_ don't understand pointers much :L 20:21:48 <glx> pointers are not really hard 20:23:27 <Rubidium> see it like a letter in an enveloppe. As postal service you don't care about the content, you just get the letter and deliver it to the other person. What you shouldn't do is make a (e.g.) black and white scan of the letter, send that to the other side of the world where they put a printed version into an enveloppe and deliver it. 20:23:57 <Rubidium> because if you send e.g. a color photo, or money the receiving end just doesn't get what it should've gotten 20:25:47 <Rubidium> so just see pointers as enveloppes that you should not open unless you know exactly what is in them. 20:26:05 <LordAro> that makes sense 20:31:12 *** Pixa [~Pixa@79-68-105-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 20:34:08 <LordAro> so... what about the other problems? :) 20:35:50 <Rubidium> what other problems? 20:37:10 <Rubidium> the garbage being printed is due to not actually reading data or writing something useful to the newly allocated buffer that you print (it contains garbage) 20:37:32 <LordAro> so how do i read the data? 20:37:34 <Rubidium> the crashes and memory issues I've explained 20:37:44 <Rubidium> LordAro: with the fread that you commented out 20:38:19 <Rubidium> minus the &, likewise for the fclose. and it should be FILE *readme = FioF... 20:40:31 <LordAro> i'm sure i tried fread and fclose without the '&', i guess it was to do with FILE readme = FioF... being wrong... 20:42:16 *** Zeknurn [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008a58.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:38 <LordAro> so what about the text updating every tick? i'm sure it doesn't need to do that.. 20:46:13 <Alberth> loading the file in DrawWidget is let's say sub-optimal 20:48:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:48:50 <Rubidium> though that's rather something for 'later' 20:49:01 <Rubidium> when the reading and drawing works 20:49:14 <LordAro> true 20:49:50 <Rubidium> though... I as well bid you a good night 20:50:11 <LordAro> good night Rubidium, thanks for ypur help :) 20:50:57 <planetmaker> good night Rubidium 20:51:53 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:12 <Terkhen> good night Rubidium 20:55:05 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@82.95.127.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:55:08 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 20:57:52 *** Pixa [~Pixa@79-68-105-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:06 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 21:19:22 *** LordAro [56951e1e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:21:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i think we really should start thinking about "refining" the movement scheme so we can reduce the length of vehicles in - direction... 21:30:20 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d820175.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 21:30:38 *** bryjen [~bryjen@76.92.85.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:33:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@87.113.231.50] has left #openttd [] 21:34:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-111-196.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:17 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-233-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:42:25 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc11-acto2-2-0-cust244.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Juo] 21:44:01 <Terkhen> good night 21:49:14 <planetmaker> good night 21:56:46 *** Sacro [~ben@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust880.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:59:06 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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