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00:16:24 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d8214eb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 00:19:46 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-90-42.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B25F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:22 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:30:09 *** Elukka [Elukka@89-166-103-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 00:34:23 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:57:37 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.86.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f95e:7664:2fee:eb5b] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:04:53 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 01:07:21 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-156-35.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:39 <appe> http://gyazo.com/fd5eea3e5fbf1d7c8e2d7cc2bb5a2298.png 01:10:49 <appe> im starting to get the hang of this 01:10:56 <appe> or at least make it work :p 01:20:53 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:22:20 *** Theos_ [~Theos@ool-4576c1d9.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 01:24:57 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:10 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27:07 *** theos [~Theos@ool-4576c1d9.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:02 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:42:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 03:13:59 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-183-047.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 03:57:59 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:03:19 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:03 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7385B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:24 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7318D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:37:38 *** geheimdienst [~hk@p4FC95BAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:34:21 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 06:38:42 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 06:40:01 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 06:40:41 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:49:45 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:52:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-144-142-157.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:54:10 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:58:02 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:59:06 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:01:43 <andythenorth> mornings 07:05:16 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:07:11 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:07:44 <andythenorth> hmm 07:07:54 <andythenorth> anyone using HEQS with ECS? 07:07:59 <andythenorth> I need something testing 07:09:03 <andythenorth> 07:15:32 <andythenorth> George: does ECS set 'bulk' for Limestone (using construction vector B5) ? 07:15:44 <andythenorth> wiki says yes 07:15:50 <andythenorth> maybe my vehicle code is wrong :P 07:17:28 <andythenorth> my vehicle code is wrong 07:23:52 <planetmaker> moin 07:24:06 <Rubidium> moimoi 07:29:36 <Terkhen> good morning 07:30:14 <planetmaker> moin Rubidium & Terkhen 07:30:45 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:32:24 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 07:40:11 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:01:58 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03:06 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-143.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:14:40 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:27:02 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:30:29 *** Elukka [Elukka@89-166-103-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:33:18 <George> andythenorth: It specifies class mask 10h 08:33:50 <andythenorth> I fixed my code :) 08:41:43 * andythenorth wonders 08:42:10 <andythenorth> rv-wagons, is that a thing that mostly just appeals to me? 08:42:39 <andythenorth> I guess for most people, they just don't need it for their buses 08:54:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:54:36 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 08:55:17 <Terkhen> andythenorth: most rv sets would not be using them, I think 09:19:35 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:20:26 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 09:21:17 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:21:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:23:56 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-143.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:26:39 *** pjpe [ae5f3bfb@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:38:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6f81.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:39:39 *** makjes [d4fbafd3@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:40:16 <andythenorth> hmm 09:40:26 <Elukka> andy, truck trailers! 09:40:40 <andythenorth> I know 09:40:42 <Elukka> but i guess that's doable just by articulated vehicles 09:40:48 <andythenorth> exactamly 09:41:53 <andythenorth> Elukka: can you check something in the game where you have HEQS crawlers? 09:42:14 <Elukka> well i replaced them with trucks but i could always buy some new crawlers 09:42:18 <andythenorth> specifically, what the current running cost parameter is 09:42:19 <andythenorth> and also the running cost in difficulty options 09:42:49 <Elukka> i haven't touched HEQS parameters 09:42:52 <Elukka> maybe i should 09:42:56 <andythenorth> ok, so probably 'default' 09:43:04 <andythenorth> can you confirm? 09:43:18 <Elukka> hmm, running costs in difficulty are high 09:43:42 <Elukka> yeah HEQS is set to default 09:44:08 <Elukka> i didn't remember that there was a running costs option 09:44:20 <Elukka> might still want to make the crawlers cheaper in relation to other vehicles since they're so slow 09:44:54 <andythenorth> they're already too cheap :) 09:45:03 <Elukka> really? 09:45:21 <andythenorth> they're cheaper than operating an equivalent capacity truck 09:45:39 <andythenorth> in reality, operating crawlers is insanely expensive 09:46:09 <andythenorth> they basically destroy their own running gear as the move 09:46:38 <planetmaker> the question is also: other base cost modifying NewGRFs? 09:46:45 <planetmaker> basecostmod? etc? 09:47:23 <andythenorth> costs are localised to vehicle newgrfs 09:47:28 <andythenorth> unless I misunderstood 09:47:33 <planetmaker> not for basecost newgrfs... 09:47:37 <andythenorth> ok 09:47:47 <andythenorth> I am happy to point at the issue being that HEQS 'default' costs are too high. I always use them set to 1/2 09:47:51 <planetmaker> they're only local, if you define the feature(s) 09:47:55 <Elukka> nope, no other cost grfs 09:48:10 <Elukka> andy, yet they have some sort of niche in the real world 09:48:24 <andythenorth> Elukka: mud 09:48:25 <andythenorth> ice 09:48:32 <andythenorth> with 'medium' running costs in difficulty options, I set HEQS parameter for running costs to 1/2 always 09:48:57 <andythenorth> crawlers would make sense with roadtypes, but otherwise they're pretty useless 09:49:03 <andythenorth> and roadtypes is highly unlikely to be done 09:50:07 <andythenorth> anyway, I'm going to adjust the HEQS base cost 09:52:21 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-97-153.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:01:44 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.86.69] has joined #openttd 10:03:39 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-058-139.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:12:26 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 10:32:56 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host-92-9-224-56.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:36 *** Fuco_ is now known as Fuco 10:42:52 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0e17d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:46:12 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-143.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:49:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@nsc.ciup.fr] has joined #openttd 10:53:37 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host-92-9-224-56.as43234.net] has left #openttd [QUIT :Leaving.] 10:56:48 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-90-42.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:57:18 *** makjes [d4fbafd3@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:16:47 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-144-142-157.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:36:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-144-142-157.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:36:39 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:39 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:39 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:39 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:39 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 11:36:39 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 11:36:39 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 11:36:39 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 11:36:39 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:39 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:39 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 11:36:40 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:43 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37:47 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:37:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by ChanServ 11:37:49 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:38:16 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:38:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 11:38:48 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:38:53 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:39:29 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:39:50 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:39:51 <Elukka> hmm. 11:39:56 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:39:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Terkhen] by ChanServ 11:40:22 <Elukka> the version i'm playing (r22941) seems to generate few towns on any setting 11:40:33 <Elukka> low and high seem the same, and it all looks like low in old versions 11:41:04 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:41:04 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:41:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by ChanServ 11:41:33 *** theos [theos@ool-4576c1d9.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:38 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:42:03 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:42:03 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:42:08 *** theos is now known as Guest11537 11:42:45 *** Theos_ [~Theos@ool-4576c1d9.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:47:15 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Ehm.. Quit? What's That?] 11:47:34 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:54:38 *** hanf [~Klaus@host-78-146-177-43.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:49 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:da4:bb21:ba60:d875] has joined #openttd 12:00:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:00:57 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.237.150] has joined #openttd 12:01:07 <Wolf01> hello 12:12:23 <Rubidium> Elukka: which town name generator do you use? 12:12:44 <Elukka> oh do names limit the amount of towns? 12:12:58 <Rubidium> yes 12:13:04 <planetmaker> yes. You cannot have more towns than names can be supplied 12:13:07 <Elukka> ah, that's most likely it, thanks 12:13:30 <planetmaker> most real townname newgrfs don't supply as many townnames as one could generate on a 2048^2 map 12:13:44 <Elukka> i had accidentally loaded US town names 0.3 instead of 1.0 :P 12:16:45 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [] 12:25:29 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 12:26:55 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.255.47.217] has joined #openttd 12:35:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@176.14.5.163] has joined #openttd 12:44:07 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:44:32 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45:05 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45:32 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:46:17 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:15 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:35 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:37 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:40 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:42 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:45 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:47 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:47 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:34 <z-MaTRiX> ahaha 12:59:43 <Markk> Nice servers. 12:59:46 <Markk> Or server. 12:59:48 <Markk> For that matter. 13:00:31 <z-MaTRiX> http://uuner.doslash.org/forfun/sedtris.sed 13:02:56 <z-MaTRiX> http://sed.sourceforge.net/local/games/arkanoid.sed 13:03:12 <z-MaTRiX> regexp rulz 13:08:51 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.255.47.217] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:15:50 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.255.47.217] has joined #openttd 13:35:19 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r22960 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Feature: Allow depots, standard roadstops and airports on steep slopes. 13:38:21 <Eddi|zuHause> oha 13:38:40 <Eddi|zuHause> now we just need sloped drive-through-roadstops 13:39:23 <frosch123> yeah, those were the third thing which annoyed me yesterday in my game :p 13:40:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01 tried to implement that a while ago 13:43:04 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.255.47.217] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:44:38 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:45 *** Guest11537 is now known as theos 13:58:37 * andythenorth should compile 14:03:39 <andythenorth> frosch123: you broke my farms :P 14:03:52 <andythenorth> now it's much easier to build truck stops for them on slopes 14:05:31 <frosch123> try building them on steep slopes with the south corner being the heighest :p 14:06:41 <Elukka> how's that break your farms? 14:07:05 <frosch123> well, it is not "too easy" to build them :p 14:07:17 <frosch123> nor to create orders to them :p 14:08:40 <andythenorth> with south corner highest, building is indeed much harder 14:08:54 <andythenorth> until you find the right angle :P 14:09:19 <frosch123> if you succeeded building the roadstop, then try to build something on the tile behind it :p 14:09:30 *** latsni [~latsni@p5B236D2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:09:37 <andythenorth> I can build road there 14:10:28 <andythenorth> so if I can build roadstops on steep slopes, what about corners? 14:10:33 <latsni> hi together, is there a way to change the size of the menu icons? 14:11:03 <latsni> e.g. if i use a very high resolution the icons are very small 14:11:34 <frosch123> there is a big-gui newgrf, but it still causes lots of glitches 14:11:44 <frosch123> but you can definitely increase the font size 14:11:54 <frosch123> (in face likely most in here do that :p ) 14:12:41 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read 14:17:42 <latsni> frosch123: thanks 14:20:26 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:25 *** ^ekipS^ [~spike@178-84-180-230.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #openttd 14:23:51 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host-92-9-224-56.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:55 <andythenorth> is it known that it's impossible to align trams correctly? 14:31:59 <andythenorth> especially the | view 14:34:13 <Eddi|zuHause> depends what you want to achieve 14:34:36 *** latsni1 [~latsni@p5B234FBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:36:00 <Eddi|zuHause> do you mean fs#3569? 14:37:02 <andythenorth> not sure 14:37:31 <andythenorth> the alignment on the 'inside' curve is treated differently to the alignment on the 'outside' curve 14:37:35 <andythenorth> for | 14:38:47 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@52490A5B.cm-4-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:38:50 *** latsni [~latsni@p5B236D2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:42:31 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host-92-9-224-56.as43234.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:42:58 <Eddi|zuHause> both times upwards or one upward and one downward? 14:45:24 <andythenorth> both downwards in this case 14:45:47 <andythenorth> upwards seems to be ok :o 14:46:02 *** erik1984 [~erik1984@vhe-490300.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:03 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host-92-8-79-254.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:06 <Elukka> http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z113/Elucca/ssto-1.png 14:48:08 <Elukka> wwwheeeeeeeeee 14:49:11 *** planetmaker [~pm@dslb-178-003-155-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 14:51:31 *** snorre [~snorre@c1A0FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 14:53:17 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:19 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.255.47.217] has joined #openttd 15:06:29 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.255.47.217] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:23:06 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 15:23:14 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@52490A5B.cm-4-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish] 15:23:19 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 15:25:23 <andythenorth> new heqs time 15:26:24 <andythenorth> now on bananas 15:26:35 <Elukka> \o/ 15:26:38 <Elukka> what's new in new heqs? 15:26:45 <andythenorth> 2 new trams 15:26:51 <andythenorth> couple of bug fixes 15:26:56 <andythenorth> default running costs reduced by 50% 15:26:59 <Elukka> nice 15:42:25 *** latsni1 [~latsni@p5B234FBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 15:43:13 *** latsni [~latsni@p5B234FBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:47:29 *** hanf [~Klaus@host-78-146-177-43.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48:04 * andythenorth should do a modern cargo tram 15:49:47 <Elukka> do those exist? 15:50:00 *** erik1984 [~erik1984@vhe-490300.sshn.net] has quit [Quit: Doei!] 15:52:29 <Alberth> how is that relevant? 15:54:00 <Elukka> i'm just curious 15:58:23 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 15:58:23 <EyeMWing> Yeah, there are a couple. Volkswagen has one that they use to shuttle car parts around Dresden 15:59:51 <EyeMWing> Amsterdam is actually building an entire network of the things to cut down on truck traffic 16:00:28 <EyeMWing> Well 16:00:46 <EyeMWing> Planning to build. They ran into a temporary shortage of cash or something. 16:00:52 <Elukka> interesting 16:01:58 <andythenorth> the amsterdam prototype was plug ugly 16:02:04 <andythenorth> ugly things usually fail 16:02:12 * andythenorth might add one sometime 16:02:16 <andythenorth> but that means drawing :P 16:04:17 <Elukka> i have so many things i should draw... 16:04:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:04:36 <Elukka> also need to rework a part of my model railway plan... 16:04:44 * Elukka procrastinates some more 16:30:58 <Rubidium> how can you say you're procrastinating? Shouldn't you think: "I can say that tomorrow just fine"? 16:31:22 <Elukka> i'll think about what you said later 16:35:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-144-142-157.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 16:48:01 <z-MaTRiX> hiii 16:48:23 *** Elukka [Elukka@89-166-103-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 16:49:40 <SmatZ> hello z-MaTRiX :) 16:50:00 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho ;> 16:50:05 <z-MaTRiX> wazup? 16:51:01 <z-MaTRiX> http://uuner.doslash.org/forfun/sedtris.sed http://sed.sourceforge.net/local/games/arkanoid.sed 16:51:03 <z-MaTRiX> regexp rulz 16:51:16 *** Elukka [Elukka@89-166-103-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:56:02 <SmatZ> :) 16:56:14 <SmatZ> the code looks really short 16:56:21 <SmatZ> should I run it as root? :) 17:04:11 <z-MaTRiX> ahaha well į did 17:04:17 <z-MaTRiX> but you don't have to 17:04:22 <z-MaTRiX> its a simple sed script 17:08:11 <SmatZ> keep pressing 17:08:12 <SmatZ> # ENTER to the ball move sucks. but hey, it's cute! &;) 17:08:14 <SmatZ> :P 17:09:39 <z-MaTRiX> hmhm yes 17:09:42 <z-MaTRiX> ;/ 17:10:21 <z-MaTRiX> it would need a keypress checking delay 17:10:33 <z-MaTRiX> but the pong and tetris looks cool 17:11:54 <z-MaTRiX> http://sed.sourceforge.net/ 17:12:04 <SmatZ> :-) 17:14:09 <z-MaTRiX> hm btw found another bug in x11 17:15:45 <z-MaTRiX> http://matrix.z-labor.com/tmp/display_preferences_countdown.png 17:23:57 <SmatZ> :P 17:29:23 *** latsni [~latsni@p5B234FBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 17:38:10 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22961 /trunk/src/lang/ (latvian.txt welsh.txt): 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: latvian - 3 changes by Parastais 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: welsh - 73 changes by kazzie 17:49:38 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host-92-8-79-254.as43234.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:51:02 *** pjpe [ae5f3bfb@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:52:56 *** TWerkhoven2 [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:57:34 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-144-142-157.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:59:40 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:29 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host-92-8-79-254.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 18:32:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-144-142-157.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:46:19 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 18:53:36 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 18:54:10 <Elukka> one day more train sets will have FIRS compatibility :( 18:54:24 <Elukka> i was fortunate that dbxetxl's ECS compatibility worked with UKRS industries somehow 18:55:29 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:55:51 *** osaka`_ is now known as osaka` 19:00:46 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:03:06 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 19:04:53 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:53 *** osaka`_ is now known as osaka` 19:16:20 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:20:58 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 19:21:27 <Elukka> question if anyone knows cargodist 19:21:46 <Alberth> @seen anyone 19:21:46 <DorpsGek> Alberth: anyone was last seen in #openttd 37 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 54 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <anyone> hi 19:21:56 <Elukka> under symmetric distribution, suppose you have town a which generates 100 passengers total, and town b which generates 10 19:22:12 <Elukka> those two towns are the only destinations 19:22:34 <Elukka> if cargodist doesn't touch cargo generation, how can that situation be symmetric? 19:22:34 <Alberth> I think you can assume that anyone knows about cargodist, it is older than 37 weeks 19:22:43 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:47 <Elukka> clever 19:22:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.178.23] has joined #openttd 19:22:52 *** osaka`_ is now known as osaka` 19:23:02 <planetmaker> cargodIst or cargodEst? 19:23:07 <Elukka> dist 19:23:20 <planetmaker> as cargodIst should have been updated more recently 19:23:21 <Alberth> dist, as it has symmetric distribution. 19:23:34 <Alberth> but I don't know how it works 19:23:51 <Alberth> the wiki page does not explain your situation? 19:23:57 <Elukka> i'm curious to know what it does when it's set to symmetric, but the two towns generate a different amount of passengers 19:24:06 <Elukka> if it does i don't get it :D 19:24:14 <planetmaker> nor do I really. Just the concept of "distributes cargo according to link-capacity to available destinations" 19:24:42 <Yexo> Elukka: keep in mind that part of the passengers might get a local destination 19:24:54 <Yexo> but why not simply try it out? create a small scenario and see what it does 19:24:56 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/Cargodist#Symmetric_and_antisymmetric_demand <-- that should explain it 19:28:35 <Elukka> hmm, yes, testing it it isn't actually symmetric if there's a different amount of passengers 19:28:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.189.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:29:39 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22962 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Fix/Update: graphical issues from Addi's NewGRF 19:30:16 <TrueBrain> who is Addi and why is he causing graphical issues :( 19:30:36 <Rubidium> he's fixing them ;) 19:31:03 <TrueBrain> lies! 19:31:50 <planetmaker> and now we should make the NewGRF unavailable for general download ;-) 19:36:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:17 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:38:43 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 19:40:33 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:41:33 *** hanf [~Klaus@host-2-101-61-115.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:58 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:18 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:52:02 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:58 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 20:04:30 *** perk11 [~perk11@188.255.47.217] has joined #openttd 20:04:31 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 20:06:17 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6f81.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:36 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:11:06 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 20:12:52 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:50 *** TWerkhoven2 [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:47 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:22:23 *** geheimdienst [~hk@p4FC957F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:25:45 *** osaka`_ [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 20:25:48 <appe> http://gyazo.com/e319cb78cc3dffbbcdcc55abe0d5447e 20:25:59 <appe> that is a part of the ESC chemical pack 20:26:15 <appe> ive recently tried it out, and something puzzles me. 20:26:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:27:33 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:33 *** osaka`_ is now known as osaka` 20:27:55 <appe> it needs oil and oil seeds to produce petrol and refined products. shouldnt that mean that when the stock of petrol and refined products increase, the 'waiting to be processed' number should fall? 20:28:35 <appe> thus, transporting the petrol and refined products make me able to load more oil and oil seeds to the industry 20:28:47 <appe> does that sound logical? 20:32:19 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:37:08 *** osaka` [~osaka@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:06 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:58 *** LordAro [~LordAro@2.27.63.77] has joined #openttd 20:44:24 <LordAro> hai 20:45:14 * LordAro is starting to look at universities... 20:46:08 <Terkhen> heh, you are getting older :P 20:46:31 <LordAro> :( 20:46:33 <LordAro> :) 20:47:00 * LordAro also likes reminiscing 20:48:18 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48:44 <planetmaker> already at your age? ;-) 20:49:11 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:49:31 <Terkhen> :P 20:51:29 <LordAro> i do feel very old sometimes 20:52:14 <LordAro> ..but then i go back to sniggering at every slight innuendo i see 20:52:15 <LordAro> :) 20:53:50 <planetmaker> hm... auto-colour correction does not always work ;-) http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/space_view.jpg 20:53:59 <Rubidium> well, you're a young Transport Tycoon player given that there are also pensioners playing the game 20:54:02 <planetmaker> But I couldn't do much better, would I want a sci-fi scene ;-) 20:55:20 <LordAro> Rubidium: (apparently) i started playing when i was 4 ('99) 20:57:09 <Pinkbeast> You're younger than my keyboard! 20:57:41 <Pinkbeast> No-one younger than my keyboard can feel old, it's official. 20:59:04 * LordAro magically stops feeling old! :) 20:59:32 <Pinkbeast> Glad that's sorted out. Come back when you were born in '87... wait, no... 21:01:04 <Hirundo> LordAro: Thank you for using #openttd psychiatrist services. ;-) 21:13:17 <LordAro> thanks for your help! expect your payment in 4-6 weeks, in minidisc format :D 21:13:27 <LordAro> wait, that didn't really work... :L 21:17:11 <Terkhen> good night 21:18:20 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:18:27 <LordAro> night all 21:18:29 *** LordAro [~LordAro@2.27.63.77] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:18:50 <Elukka> hmm... anyone remember around what year 0.5 was released? 21:19:11 <Elukka> openttd around that time was my first touch to transport tycoon 21:19:31 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: looks like a sunrise gone bad 21:19:34 <TWerkhoven[l]> i remember thats the first version i knew of, no idea when that was though 21:20:00 <Elukka> 2007 according to wiki 21:20:14 <Elukka> so i started playing ttd at... age 15 21:20:23 <Elukka> 2007 is that long ago..? 21:20:25 <Elukka> damn 21:20:48 <TWerkhoven[l]> hehe 21:20:51 <TWerkhoven[l]> time flies 21:20:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i started playing transport tycoon at age ~13 or so 21:21:21 <Eddi|zuHause> that would place it 1994-ish 21:21:25 <Elukka> :D 21:21:49 <TWerkhoven[l]> when was tto originally released? 21:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> around that time 21:22:22 <TWerkhoven[l]> would be similar age then 21:23:53 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: yes... like some post-apocalyptic all in ashes scenario ;-) 21:23:59 <planetmaker> it's actually todays sunset, though 21:24:37 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-97-153.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:33:30 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [] 21:33:54 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 21:35:39 <planetmaker> hm.. why do layer mask eat that much memory :S 21:39:05 <planetmaker> but composite is better... http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/chess_field.jpg 21:39:33 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:21 *** osaka`_ [~world@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 21:50:23 *** imus_mIRC [~imus@d54C4A6AE.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 21:51:02 *** imus_mIRC [~imus@d54C4A6AE.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 21:51:04 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 21:52:56 *** osaka`_ is now known as osaka` 21:59:05 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [] 22:01:47 *** osaka` [~world@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:40 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:52 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: when seeing your picture the first time, i thought of www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuzPVbK2rmM 22:12:11 *** osaka` [~world@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has joined #openttd 22:19:55 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-019-143.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 22:23:48 *** osaka` [~world@broadband-46-188-1-176.2kom.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:20 *** Elukka [Elukka@89-166-103-135.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:25:56 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:56 <Wolf01> 'night 22:27:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.237.150] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:31:43 <planetmaker> you know strange music, Eddi|zuHause ;-) 22:31:56 <planetmaker> it made me very sleepy. 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