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00:00:19 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 00:10:12 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 00:10:12 *** George is now known as Guest20431 00:10:12 *** George|2 is now known as George 00:14:59 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-102-63.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 00:15:33 *** Guest20431 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:20:47 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-162-153.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:25:31 <kais58> anyone got a decent basic set of grf's I could put on my server that wouldn't scare away new players? 00:26:01 <Yexo> OpenGFX+ 00:31:43 <kais58> I can only see industries roadvehicles trains and tress for opengfx+ in the downloader, is that right? 00:48:38 <Yexo> yes, there is also OpenGFX+Landscape and OpenGFX+Airports, but those require a nightly version of OpenTTD 00:50:01 <Eddi|zuHause> "requires nightly" is certainly not fitting the "don't scare away" proposition :p 00:50:51 *** DDR [~DDR@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 00:52:25 <kais58> yeah, I'm building our server to match the version in the fedora repo as it changes which is 1.3 currently as that's what our desktops run, so no chance of running nightlies :) 00:52:57 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, they have a version from the future? :p 00:53:19 <kais58> 1.1.3... 01:12:58 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-018-143.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:32:09 *** chris__0076 [~Chris_007@adsl-74-190-122-141.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:32 *** Chris_0076 [~Chris_007@adsl-74-190-49-150.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:28:37 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73687.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:31:19 *** dfox_ is now known as dfox 02:34:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73687.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:11:27 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[~Neon@dslb-094-219-001-186.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:41:43 <Elukka> ... 08:42:33 <Elukka> the i-have-issues-with-human-sexuality-and-i-wanna-make-my-denial-law -bill 08:42:47 <appe> yeah 08:42:53 <appe> i think its horrid 08:58:20 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-23-145.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 09:03:13 <peter1138> that's 8 months old 09:03:45 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-9-198.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:37 <appe> im finding it hard to find new info about it 09:34:09 *** DDR [~DDR@142.179.78.88] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 09:34:54 <peter1138> hmm, pikka's level crossings have no signs/lights/barriers :S 09:41:03 <planetmaker> those make lot of work, if you want to cater for left and right side traffic, open and closed state, snowy and non-snowy state 09:45:25 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote 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[~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 12:21:57 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:22:14 <Nite> Hi 12:22:47 <fjb|tab> Moin Nite. 12:50:57 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:00:32 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 13:00:33 *** George is now known as Guest20491 13:00:33 *** George|2 is now known as George 13:05:45 *** Guest20491 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 13:14:13 <Eddi|zuHause> statistics of the day: "men with children work longer than men without children" 13:17:48 <appe> does the test imply wether or not unemployed is accounted for? 13:18:11 <appe> most fathers do need a job to continue being a father. 13:18:47 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: logic. men w ith children no longer wants to fuck his wife. Logic. 13:19:49 <__ln__> or: children make work less efficient, so it takes longer. 13:20:11 *** Westie [~westie@icarus.typefish.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:20:17 *** Eitsew [~westie@icarus.typefish.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21:34 <TrueBrain> after a child you lost parts of your brain? 13:27:38 <fjb|tab> TrueBrain: I don't see the logic there. 13:28:00 <TrueBrain> fjb|tab: how many children do you have? :P 13:30:27 <fjb|tab> Depends if you count my own or the children of my girlfriends. ;-) 13:33:01 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:89bd:2969:5917:c0f7] has joined #openttd 13:33:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:33:44 <fjb|tab> Moines glx. 13:34:02 <fjb|tab> Moin 13:35:07 <fjb|tab> Strange auto correction... 13:50:28 *** Amis [~Amis@5400EAC5.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 13:50:43 <Amis> Hello o/ 13:51:08 <Amis> I was wondering if it's possible to lower the rate at what the game places transmitters all over the map or at least turn it off? 13:51:34 <Yexo> no 13:51:42 <Yexo> you can enable the magic bulldozer and remove them that way 13:52:54 <Amis> But the problem is that each time I generate a map it's all ugly when zoomed out because there are transmitters all over the place 13:53:04 <Amis> It's plain ugly and there are unnaturally too much of em 13:54:38 <XeryusTC> if you live in a country where you have multiple mobile network operators then you'll notice that there are not too much in openttd ;) 13:55:17 <Amis> Pic related: http://images.syriusamis.org/game/OpenTTD/Transmitters.png 13:55:49 <Yexo> that map looks too empty anyway :p 13:55:49 <XeryusTC> and you can also make them transparent if you find them ugly 13:56:02 <Amis> Yexo, I like playing on huge map with big distances 13:57:01 <planetmaker> given the size of typical towns that does not look like many transmitters 13:58:07 <Amis> I guess I'll just use the rock newgrf if there's no option to remove it 13:58:16 <Amis> Btw, are there any year limit for lighthouses? 13:58:18 <Amis> I don't have any 14:00:07 <Yexo> they're only build near the edges of the map and IIRC also only if there is water nearby 14:01:45 <planetmaker> hm, near map edges only? I thought water vicinity was the only requirement. But granted, I didn't look at that piece of code so far 14:03:45 <Amis> Hmmm 14:03:55 <Amis> Now that's something I would also like to be changeable 14:04:22 <Eddi|zuHause> you can make a newobject grf 14:04:27 <Amis> Hahh 14:06:47 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:37 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, but that won't change the com tower 14:10:22 <Amis> I wonder if an intelligent newgrf could be made that detects "peeks" in the generated landscape and places transmitters on the top of em 14:10:43 <planetmaker> objects are not auto-placed on world generation 14:11:04 <planetmaker> other than lighthouses and transmitters 14:11:50 <Amis> That means: ...? 14:13:51 <Amis> Transmitters on top of hills would at least make sense 14:18:55 <Belugas> hello 14:19:52 <planetmaker> arent't they on top of hills? 14:21:07 <Amis> planetmaker, nope 14:21:19 <Amis> I mean, not in OpenTTD 14:21:54 *** TGYoshi_ [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 14:22:11 * Belugas starts mumbling about discussion getting too RL oriented... 14:23:09 <Amis> ~.~ 14:28:02 <planetmaker> Amis, I'm quite sure they're not in valleys. Looking at your map: it has so little topography that height hardly matters 14:28:25 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:28:59 <fjb|tab> Moin Belugas. 14:29:58 <Amis> planetmaker, but I could image a newgrf that has a "roughness" slider for bigger, more smoother maps 14:30:23 <XeryusTC> s/slider/parameter/ 14:30:48 <Amis> That 14:32:48 <planetmaker> I can imagine many things. But maps topography is not NewGRF-influenced. 14:33:25 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@91-113-54-132.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:33:30 <kleinerdrache> hi there 14:33:35 <planetmaker> And yes, the newgame settings have parameters to adjust smoothness and size of features 14:33:39 <planetmaker> hi kleinerdrache 14:33:47 <planetmaker> do you breath fire? 14:34:47 <kleinerdrache> I have a railway station and a haven next to each other, and it says that can be connected with the ctrl key, but this doesn't work, how can I do that? 14:34:56 <kleinerdrache> both have their own names 14:37:41 <planetmaker> you can't connect existing stations 14:37:56 <planetmaker> you can only connect via ctrl new parts to an existing station 14:37:57 <kleinerdrache> planetmaker what now? 14:38:09 <planetmaker> even when they would not touch 14:38:40 <kleinerdrache> thats bad, but they are so close together. Maybe I build a new one next to it, move all by ship and then remove the first one? 14:39:12 <planetmaker> you can just delete one and rebuild it by using ctrl+click and then attach it to the other existing one 14:39:38 <planetmaker> just forget about the existing cargo. More hassle than gain ;-) 14:41:04 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 14:42:50 <Amis> I had much trouble with reconfiguring all vehicles orders' when moving em to other stations till I found out about shared orders 14:42:55 <Amis> \o/ 14:48:14 <fjb|tab> Sharing makes your life easy. 15:02:40 <peter1138> do you need an undo knob? 15:06:42 <fjb|tab> Psssssssst! 15:14:02 <Belugas> <PLAY AND WATCH> button? 15:15:23 <fjb|tab> That is called public server. 15:20:18 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest20504 15:20:18 *** Guest20504 [~frank@pD9EA6077.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:19 *** fjb|tab [~frank@pD9EA6077.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:06 <Belugas> good one :) 15:26:27 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:51 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:29 *** nitraat [~win3000@52496152.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:32:21 <nitraat> hi all, hope someone here who knows the OpenTTD source well can help me out with a question 15:32:58 <nitraat> how is the number of days in transit calculated? especially with regards to waiting in a station and transferred cargo 15:37:31 *** dlr365 [~Doug@d142-59-83-184.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:43:26 <TrueBrain> from moment it came into existance till you deliver it 15:43:32 <TrueBrain> kinda the most obvious one :) 15:43:58 <peter1138> not entirely true :) 15:46:26 <TrueBrain> odd, I cannot find anything on the wiki which specifies the term 15:46:28 <TrueBrain> it only uses it 15:50:04 *** swissfan91 [5e046369@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:01:04 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@91-113-54-132.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:15:53 *** namad7 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 16:22:17 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:43:22 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 16:57:37 *** swissfan91 [5e046369@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:01:05 *** SnowDragon [~welshdrag@client-86-31-20-40.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:12 <Belugas> hoo.. Chirac kapput 17:08:18 <Belugas> no one is untouchable! 17:08:25 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:14:54 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6fd1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:01 *** fjb|tab [~frank@pD9EA6077.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:06 *** fjb|tab [~frank@pD9EA6077.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:36:42 <appe> chirac, that french duder? 17:40:17 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:11 <Belugas> duder? 17:43:20 <Belugas> watzdat? 17:44:54 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:51:00 <Rubidium> nitraat: every 185 ticks (default) the cargo is in a vehicle it is aged 17:55:35 <appe> Belugas: never mind. 17:58:08 <Belugas> ah 17:58:42 * Belugas enters the Kingdom of Ignorance 18:00:51 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:00:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:05:09 <peter1138> what's more likely to see fruitition? 18:05:36 <peter1138> a) transport empire b) p1sim c) openlocomotion 18:06:00 <peter1138> *fruition 18:06:03 <SnowDragon> None 18:06:47 <Alberth> a) seems to make some progress at least 18:06:58 <Belugas> a) is the one with the more code written, i'd say a). But the dev team is... dunno... not... open? 18:07:18 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:07:21 <Alberth> although 'yay another window' gets a bit tedious :) 18:07:39 <Alberth> the team is just 1 person afaik 18:07:54 <Rubidium> Alberth: but so is the 32bpp thread ;) 18:08:36 <Alberth> 32bpp may be sooner finished that TE :) 18:08:38 <Rubidium> just for the 32bpp thread there are still some 20k sprites to be drawn, and I guess the amount of windows in TE will be two orders of magnitude smaller 18:08:54 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:09:46 <Alberth> windows is just interface, the real stuff is behind that 18:13:10 <Belugas> mmm... Asus Transformer Prime delayed to the 20th of december :( 18:13:14 <Belugas> bad... 18:13:19 <Belugas> one toy less under the tree :S 18:14:10 <fjb|tab> Alberth: But you need an interface to make things usable. 18:14:44 <Rubidium> fjb|tab: not always 18:14:54 <Alberth> fjb|tab: yes, but it is not the primary problem of the program imho 18:15:00 <fjb|tab> Belugas: But it will be cheaper next year. 18:15:11 <Rubidium> e.g. we need zoomed in sprites to make the zoom in (more) useable ;) 18:15:52 <Belugas> fjb|tab: agreed. But we'll have 1% tax rate increase by then 18:16:47 <Alberth> fjb|tab: that is, it is relatively easy to create yet another window, especially the kind of windows he is doing. It does not add to the core engine however 18:17:45 <fjb|tab> Rubidium: I was speaking about interfaces in general, not that 32bbp stuff which I don't care for. 18:18:41 <Terkhen> hello 18:20:05 <fjb|tab> Belugas: But it will be more than 1% cheaper in a few weeks. 18:20:48 <fjb|tab> Moin Terkhen . 18:21:25 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:25:17 <Belugas> hey Terkhen :) 18:25:47 <Belugas> fjb|tab, when I see the rate at which they are getting cheaper, i'm not sure i'll have a good deal before summer :( 18:25:53 <Belugas> I WANT MY TOY NOW!!! 18:26:04 <Belugas> ooops... sorry dear.. OUR TOY 18:27:38 <fjb|tab> Belugas: The price will stay high as long as nobody can buy it. 18:31:34 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:32:04 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23519 /trunk/src/script/api/doxygen_filter.awk: -Change: do not export enum values in the AI documentation 18:32:43 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23520 /trunk/src/script/api/script_engine.hpp: -Fix-ish: wrong @param name causing missing documentation 18:32:52 * fjb|tab will have to play with an Archos 80 G9 until then. 18:33:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 18:35:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i find it worrying that patents have degraded to a system how one can most effectively destroy the other guy's christmas sales. 18:36:31 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23521 /trunk/ (17 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: use the actual enum values from the 'core' in the API when they refer to the in-game values in the cases where that is possible and sensible 18:41:37 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: translators * r23522 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt korean.txt unfinished/urdu.txt): 18:41:37 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:41:37 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: catalan - 19 changes by arnau 18:41:37 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: korean - 22 changes by junho2813, telk5093 18:41:37 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: urdu - 1 changes by haider 18:41:54 *** namad7 [aaaaa@c-67-163-246-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:42:32 <Belugas> fjb|tab: WE do not like to wait :) 18:42:46 <Belugas> Archos 80? is it good? 18:43:02 <Belugas> "will have to play.. until then" you want the prime too? 18:44:27 <fjb|tab> Belugas: waiting for the prime too. The Archos is ok. 18:44:35 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23523 /trunk/src/lang/korean.txt: -Fix: language compilation error 18:50:04 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-018-179.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 18:55:53 *** Amis [~Amis@5400EAC5.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: *pop*] 18:58:34 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1BA4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:01:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:02:08 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 19:08:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:08:10 <fjb|tab> Belugas: The display of the Archos is not the best and the case feels weak. But it is fast. It still has somet trouble playing HD videos with a high bit rate. And you have to buy an additional license to play mpeg videos with the build in player. 19:09:26 <Belugas> yurk... 19:09:42 * Belugas hopes prime will be as good as they say :) 19:10:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc1-aztw25-2-0-cust298.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:11:15 <fjb|tab> Three prime will be a lot faster, but the Archos is cheap and gets constant updates. 19:11:28 <fjb|tab> The 19:11:41 <Eddi|zuHause> "firefox now too big to compile under win32" 19:12:14 <fjb|tab> Oh oh⊠19:12:57 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently the "profile guided optimization" linker phase exceeds 3GB ram 19:14:41 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-84-248.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:14:57 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:16:11 <Belugas> yeah... 4 core cpu will help indeed :) plus the battery life and all. 19:17:02 *** fjb|tab is now known as Guest20523 19:17:03 *** fjb|tab [~frank@p5DDFDFF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:06 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@91-113-54-132.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:17:55 <kleinerdrache> is it possible to get an overview over railway stations to see how much things/passengers are waiting? 19:18:26 <Eddi|zuHause> click on them? 19:18:49 <Eddi|zuHause> the station list has small icons displaying how much is waiting as well 19:19:37 <fjb|tab> Yes, just click at the stations button in the toolbar. 19:20:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.172.252] has joined #openttd 19:20:16 *** Guest20523 [~frank@pD9EA6077.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:45 <kleinerdrache> thanks fjb|tab 19:20:50 <andythenorth> hello 19:21:43 <fjb|tab> Moin andythenorth. 19:26:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A62D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:12 *** JVassie [~James@2.25.209.121] has joined #openttd 19:40:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:48:59 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: truebrain * r23524 /trunk/src/ai/ (ai_core.cpp ai_scanner.cpp ai_scanner.hpp): -Codechange: move the name of the scanner to a level deeper 19:50:38 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: truebrain * r23525 /trunk/src/ (20 files in 3 dirs): 19:50:38 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Codechange: make Window::flags4 WindowFlags instead of uint16, with only values known in WindowFlags (and move out 2 timers to their own variable) 19:50:38 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Codechange: rename Window::flags4 to Window::flags 19:50:38 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Codechange: move some non-inline functions from .hpp to .cpp 19:51:21 *** TomyLobo [~foo@p4FC228B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 19:53:12 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:05 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-103-48.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:54:27 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-237-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:58:54 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:09 *** NOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-109-228.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:02:35 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@2001:470:1f06:13e0::1337] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07:36 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@2001:470:1f06:13e0::1337] has joined #openttd 20:15:22 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1A433.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:16 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1A433.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:17:29 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1A433.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:17 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 20:29:08 *** nitraat [~win3000@52496152.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:44 *** nitraat [~win3000@52496152.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:42:52 *** lappro [5652a6ca@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:42:57 <lappro> hi all 20:43:31 <Zuu> Hello lappro 20:43:43 <fjb|tab> Moin lappro. 20:44:08 <lappro> wow wouldn't have thought the chat of this originally old game would be this active :O 20:45:17 <lappro> just came here after seeing yogscast vid :P though i would discover some ancient stuff, its quite the opposite 20:45:30 <V453000> you obviously do not realize what openttd offers :p 20:45:33 <V453000> welcome 20:46:21 <lappro> anything important i need to know? or should i just pioneer my way through the community/game/something i dont know yet? 20:46:40 <V453000> discovering on your own is best I think :) 20:47:07 * Zuu agrees 20:47:40 <lappro> yea 1 question, i couldnt find a server file or something so i can run my own server for friends im going to invite? 20:48:18 <Zuu> You don't need a separte OpenTTD version for that. 20:48:31 <Zuu> You need to set up your network properly however 20:48:32 <lappro> its build into the client? 20:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, every client can act as server 20:49:03 <Eddi|zuHause> just start a multiplayer game 20:49:04 <lappro> thx for the info 20:50:51 <Zuu> @ports 20:50:51 <DorpsGek> Zuu: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 20:51:26 <Zuu> For portforwarding see above. 20:51:34 <lappro> thx :D 20:55:56 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:56:09 <lappro> bye zuu? 21:00:14 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:00:19 <Zuu> hello again :-) 21:01:22 <Zuu> Windows decided to screw up my keyboard input each time I pressed Alt GR until I forced it to work by switching keyboard layout back and forth. A reboot fixed that. :-) 21:02:33 *** Adambean [~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:08:44 <lappro> is there a tutorial available? 21:08:49 <Zuu> Yes 21:08:58 <Zuu> Download TutorialAI 21:09:09 <Zuu> (from online content in the game) 21:09:22 <Zuu> Set it as AI opponent and start a new game. 21:10:10 <lappro> i can download that from within the game or do i have to download it from the site or something and put it in the game directory 21:10:29 <Zuu> Start the game and click on the lower left button in the menu. 21:10:39 <Zuu> It should say "online content" or similar. 21:11:00 <lappro> got it thanks 21:11:16 <lappro> i shall check it out tomorrow, bed time now :P 21:11:34 <lappro> bye all 21:11:35 <Zuu> That tutorial is a bit experimental. For longer tutorials, see the wiki or youtube. 21:12:10 <lappro> i will see if i understand it afterwards have to go now 21:12:14 <lappro> thx btw 21:12:17 *** lappro [5652a6ca@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:12:18 <Zuu> good night 21:23:16 <Terkhen> good night 21:31:17 * andythenorth -> bed 21:31:18 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc1-aztw25-2-0-cust298.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:34:17 <peter1138> greebling 21:42:55 *** DDR [~DDR@142.179.78.88] has joined #openttd 21:49:06 <Eddi|zuHause> https://fts.to/wcf/images/photos/photo-12127-d0c824d1.jpg 21:49:26 <Eddi|zuHause> if you like conspiracies :) 21:50:46 <V453000> nice one :D 21:52:20 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23526 /trunk/src/ (37 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: unify cargos vs cargoes 21:52:44 <Eddi|zuHause> car goes wrrmm wrrmm 21:53:52 <TWerkhoven[l]> mine goes putputputput 21:53:56 <TWerkhoven[l]> :p 21:55:49 <TrueBrain> mine goes zoef 21:56:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what's cargös anyway? 21:57:53 <frosch123> a relative of cargÞs 21:58:14 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r23527 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: unify colo(u)r as far as it goes 21:58:32 <Eddi|zuHause> (my german mind is conditioned to do s/oe/ö/g) 21:59:04 <frosch123> oh, of course there is also cargÅs 21:59:43 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: so you read gös all day? 21:59:45 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-094-219-001-186.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 21:59:53 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: then read it as cargoës :p 22:00:22 <Eddi|zuHause> which brings us back to cars :) 22:00:29 <frosch123> i love my compose key ⥠22:00:33 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i rather like dead keys 22:01:21 <frosch123> dead keys are the death of programming or so 22:01:33 <Eddi|zuHause> or let's say i've gotten used to them 22:02:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the only relevant dead key for programming is ^ 22:02:27 <Eddi|zuHause> and you quickly learn to type [^][space] 22:02:34 <frosch123> there is also ` 22:02:46 <frosch123> and ~ 22:02:56 <frosch123> though maybe the latter is usually not dead 22:02:58 <Eddi|zuHause> ~ is not a dead key (usually) 22:03:08 <Eddi|zuHause> and ` is not used in many languages 22:03:22 <frosch123> sh :) 22:03:34 <Eddi|zuHause> use $() :) 22:03:37 <frosch123> though you can use xargs in some case 22:03:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that's better, because it can be nested 22:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause> what's usually more troublesome for programming is the placing of {[]} on german keyboards 22:04:27 <Alberth> and ' and " 22:05:17 <frosch123> or searching in vi an man :p 22:05:24 <frosch123> *and 22:06:10 * Alberth consistently fails to remember that possibility :p 22:06:25 <frosch123> searching in man? 22:06:42 <frosch123> it's the only way to use the bash manual :p 22:06:52 <frosch123> (well, if there is actually any) 22:09:15 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:10:20 <fjb|tab> frosch123: Use tcsh. 22:11:03 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@91-113-54-132.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:44 <frosch123> i use both tcsh and bash, that's why i am continuously failing at both :p 22:14:33 *** TGYoshi_ [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 22:18:11 <appe> evening 22:18:14 <appe> scones, anyone? 22:19:14 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: truebrain * r23528 /trunk/ (111 files in 6 dirs): -Codechange: move widget enums to widgets/NNN_type.h 22:19:52 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@178-190-168-241.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 22:36:38 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 22:50:36 <V453000> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/Rainbow%20Mayhem%2C%202176-07-02.png ^^ 22:54:43 <virrpanna> nyaa~~ 22:55:43 <Eddi|zuHause> might need a few adjustments to lighting etc. 22:56:31 <V453000> nah, true colour :D 22:57:21 <Eddi|zuHause> and you should have different wagon sprite offsets depending on position_in_vehid_chain and motion_counter 22:57:41 <V453000> yes, this is just the first version :) 22:57:43 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: Sla Mutant Co-Op for Renegade - coming back soon] 22:58:23 *** kleinerdrache [~mn@178-190-168-241.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:59:35 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:00:21 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 23:06:07 <frosch123> nightoes 23:06:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6fd1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:45 *** Immy [Immy@78.86.212.81] has joined #openttd 23:09:30 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0a9627.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 23:09:36 <Immy> Hi there, I was wondering if it is possible to change the "victory"/"win" conditions in the multiplayer mode of the game. 23:10:35 <dotwaffle> silly question: if a train is at 100% full of passengers, but won't leave a station, and has any orders, but specifically not "full load" - any ideas how to "fix" it so it will leave without hitting skip? 23:15:11 <planetmaker> dotwaffle: most likely: improve your signaling 23:15:42 <dotwaffle> planetmaker: signalling? 23:15:56 <planetmaker> or, if the train carries other cargo, you use full load all and that cargo is not yet 100% loaded 23:15:58 <dotwaffle> planetmaker: sorry, should have made it clearer, it says loading/unloading 23:16:55 <dotwaffle> it's just a floss with 9 passenger cars, all full with 40 pax 23:17:22 <dotwaffle> i.e. max 360 pax, all filled. 23:17:55 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:18:13 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has joined #openttd 23:18:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 23:19:35 <dotwaffle> what's strange is the order isn't ful load! 23:19:35 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:43 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:20:57 <planetmaker> dotwaffle: well. Needs more than words, I guess :-) i.e. a savegame 23:21:20 <planetmaker> Immy: not quite (yet) 23:21:38 *** MrSieb [~01Mr@chello062178128065.5.13.vie.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 23:23:29 <dotwaffle> planetmaker: www.baud.org.uk/matthew.walster/dotwaffle.sav - much appreciated! 23:24:15 <dotwaffle> and yes, i suck at rail planning ;) 23:24:32 <planetmaker> everyone has his own style 23:24:56 <dotwaffle> i don't really have a style, more of a desire for lazyness! 23:26:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A433.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:28:56 <dotwaffle> planetmaker: it's quite a headscratcher! 23:29:03 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest20549 23:29:10 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:13 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 23:31:58 *** Guest20549 [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:08 <Eddi|zuHause> lazyness is also a style! :p 23:33:27 <dotwaffle> =) 23:33:29 <planetmaker> dotwaffle: I honestly don't know. 23:33:44 <planetmaker> The train should just leave the station. It does if you tell it to skip orders 23:34:05 <planetmaker> interestingly the others do 23:34:11 <dotwaffle> planetmaker: exactly. it's *very weird* 23:34:58 <planetmaker> oh, no 23:35:03 <planetmaker> You gave it a timetable 23:35:11 <planetmaker> and told it to wait in the station for 316 days 23:36:08 <planetmaker> go to the orders screen of the train and click 'timetable' (upper right) 23:37:38 <planetmaker> click then on the first order and choose 'clear time' 23:37:45 <planetmaker> ^ dotwafflew 23:39:48 <dotwaffle> got rid of timetable, pressed skip twice, still happens :S 23:40:50 <dotwaffle> (last time i ever press autofill...) 23:41:34 <dotwaffle> it moves! and i have absolutely no idea what i hit! =) 23:41:44 <dotwaffle> thanks a bunch, i appreciate it a lot. 23:41:48 *** nitraat [~win3000@52496152.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:06 <dotwaffle> i *thnk* i hit reset late counter 23:42:49 <planetmaker> of course it moves somewhen... 23:44:50 <dotwaffle> ah, but when train 27 (who shares orders) gets down there... IT WAITS! I have a feeling I'm just being a numpty and wasting your time ;) 23:45:24 <Eddi|zuHause> just reset the counter there as well, it'll sort out eventually 23:46:03 <planetmaker> yeah. Resetting all time table stuff does the trick 23:46:06 <dotwaffle> yeah, it did that. just need to find if i "experimente" with any other timetables ;) 23:48:53 *** JVassie [~James@2.25.209.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:50 <TrueBrain> building NoGo 1.1 :D Whiiee :D :) 23:59:16 <Eddi|zuHause> it always scares me when removing random lines doesn't change the behaviour of the program...