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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 03:37:47 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:501f:ed9e:a97d:9d8d] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:39:43 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.4.45] has joined #openttd 03:43:10 *** DrSpangle [~dsmullen@CPE18593342d131-CM18593342d12e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #openttd [] 03:44:29 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.9.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:01:19 *** enr1x_ [~kiike@62.57.4.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:24:11 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:25:10 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 04:25:19 <DanMacK> Hey all 04:25:25 <Pikka> good morning mister MacK 04:28:44 <DanMacK> Still evening here :) 04:29:21 <planetmaker> morning 04:31:30 <DanMacK> Hey PM 04:43:46 *** DanMacK [DanMacK@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 04:58:12 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-155-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 04:58:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 05:03:24 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-78-180.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:05:43 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:08:33 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-75-7.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 05:17:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-75-7.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:45:11 *** DrSpangle [~dsmullen@CPE18593342d131-CM18593342d12e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 05:54:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73482.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:55:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B748D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:09:43 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 06:10:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:11:06 <andythenorth> moin 06:11:18 <Pikka> mr andy 06:11:30 * Pikka accidentally HOVS tracking table 06:12:05 <Pikka> with 23 vehicles... D: 06:12:25 <andythenorth> poopy doopy 06:12:32 <Pikka> exactly 06:12:33 <andythenorth> where is it to? 06:12:42 <Pikka> where is it to? 06:12:56 <andythenorth> the table... 06:13:07 <Pikka> what does "where is it to" mean? :D 06:13:21 <andythenorth> bristolian for 'where?" 06:13:29 <Pikka> oh right 06:13:35 <andythenorth> like 'where is chipping sodbury to?' 06:13:48 <andythenorth> to which the answer is 'chipping sodbury' 06:13:49 <Pikka> haven't worked out costs yet but I can put it up :) 06:14:03 <andythenorth> sir ozlington has made shunting 06:14:18 <Pikka> yes 06:14:20 <Pikka> which is great 06:14:33 <andythenorth> I am scared newgrf will rain on his parade :( 06:14:43 <Pikka> except pretty much the entirety of newgrf relies on the consist not changing outside the depot 06:14:46 <Pikka> indeed 06:16:17 <andythenorth> I turned on auto-refit for HEQS trams; they change length in stations 06:16:30 <andythenorth> think it causes an assert, or at least ottd is sad about it 06:16:39 <Pikka> yep 06:16:47 <Pikka> sounds like a very bad idea (tm) :) 06:16:52 * andythenorth needs to turn it off :P 06:19:35 <Pikka> http://www.pruplethingz.com/junk/rindabite.png 06:19:45 <Pikka> apologies for presenting textations in graphical form 06:21:18 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09eeb8.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:21:50 <andythenorth> will you keep current size of graphics? 06:22:14 <Pikka> they will be more in line with the UKRS2 sizes than TTD sizes 06:22:43 <Pikka> I'll probably start with the titan or regent and send it over for you to compare to banditry. 06:24:04 <andythenorth> k 06:24:27 *** Artix [~artixds@181.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:24:38 <Pikka> although I'm supposed to be working on UKRS2 today... lalala 06:24:53 <Pikka> starting projects is easy! 06:25:49 <andythenorth> +1 06:29:31 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.104.165] has joined #openttd 06:34:34 *** DrSpangle [~dsmullen@CPE18593342d131-CM18593342d12e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #openttd [] 06:42:37 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 06:46:24 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 07:07:54 <Pikka> hmm 07:08:27 <Pikka> I have a costs, they look about right... 07:09:22 <andythenorth> I have a spritesheet of coils for STEL and PAPR 07:09:27 <andythenorth> they look about a wrong 07:09:32 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.104.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:09:46 <Pikka> oops! 07:13:38 <NGC3982> Pikka: what is that? :) 07:13:56 *** Sacro_ [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 07:13:56 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:16:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:16:37 <Pikka> the link? 07:16:43 <Pikka> planning for bus grfs 07:17:24 * andythenorth ponders curling that and turning it into config data for a set 07:17:31 <andythenorth> parsing the bitmap would be fun 07:17:41 <Pikka> :o 07:18:15 <andythenorth> not fun 07:18:32 * andythenorth has a graphics library and is not afraid to use it! 07:18:39 <andythenorth> new shiny toy syndrome :P 07:20:07 * andythenorth decides writing a text-recognition tool might not be a good project 07:20:58 <andythenorth> if it was a fixed width font...would be easier 07:21:09 <andythenorth> just go in regular increments and see what shape pixel you got :P 07:21:27 <andythenorth> *pixels 07:23:19 *** Twofish [~Twofish@77-95-76-210.bb.cust.hknett.no] has joined #openttd 07:35:43 <andythenorth> hmm 07:35:43 <andythenorth> w 07:36:01 <andythenorth> what colour is paper? 07:36:10 <Pikka> depends on what colour it is 07:36:42 <Pikka> either white or brown or nondescript, if we're talking TTD loads :P 07:51:26 <andythenorth> brown? :o 07:52:14 <Pikka> http://www.pulpandpaper-technology.com/contractor_images/cascade/2_90F.jpg here it comes now 07:53:26 <andythenorth> they must be wrapping a big parcel 07:55:14 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 08:18:10 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:19:50 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-65-161.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 08:30:19 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@ip212-238-95-151.hotspotsvankpn.com] has joined #openttd 08:39:48 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-82-103.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 08:43:07 *** kkb110__ [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:43:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@ip212-238-95-151.hotspotsvankpn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:45:03 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-155-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:49:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:53:42 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-126-213.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 08:53:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 08:57:38 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-11-52.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:34 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-82-103.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:11 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-65-161.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:05:25 <andythenorth> hey, it's pikka! 09:05:33 <Pikka> yep! 09:06:21 <Nat_aS> I'm late but, cover the paper with a tarp :P 09:06:27 <Nat_aS> to keep it dry in the rain 09:06:31 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2570/8_8_cargo_coils_STEL.png 09:06:34 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2571/8_8_cargo_coils_PAPR.png 09:06:37 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2572/8_8_cargo_coils_COPR.png 09:07:03 <andythenorth> Nat_aS: your solution is a good one - for people who don't have a pixel generator in their back pocket ;) 09:07:15 <Pikka> triffic andy! 09:07:34 <Nat_aS> but white is probably the best way to communicate to the player visualy that the train is carrying paper. 09:07:45 <andythenorth> for my next trick, I make those appear for all lengths 1/8 - 8/8 09:07:47 <andythenorth> with loading states 09:08:05 <andythenorth> then comp them to ve-hicles 09:14:27 <Pikka> :] 09:29:15 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178228184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:37:34 <Pikka> lol 09:37:43 <Pikka> there's a town in this test game called "Tendon" 09:40:11 <peter1138> heh 09:40:26 <Pikka> peeeter 09:42:59 *** Firartix [~artixds@www.clubnix.fr] has joined #openttd 09:44:52 <peter1138> peeeker 09:55:39 <Pikka> gonna run a 1.2 server peter? :} 09:55:51 <Pikka> gonna have bandit ready for 1.2 andy? :P 09:59:06 <peter1138> hm 09:59:11 <peter1138> probably not 09:59:15 <peter1138> not played for years 09:59:20 <peter1138> since the ukrs 1 days 09:59:40 <Pikka> :) 09:59:49 <Pikka> but now it's the UKRS2 days 10:00:09 <peter1138> yeah 10:00:09 <Pikka> oh well 10:00:37 <peter1138> egrvts smells 10:00:44 <Pikka> true that 10:00:46 <Pikka> well 10:00:48 <Pikka> no 10:00:55 <Pikka> it's better than anything else out there 10:01:09 <peter1138> yes 10:01:13 <peter1138> i miss your rv set 10:01:18 <peter1138> the never-finished one 10:01:25 <Pikka> oh 10:01:28 <Pikka> that one 10:01:50 <Pikka> did you see what I showed andy earlier and what I've been doing all afternoon when I should have been doing UKRS2? 10:01:57 <peter1138> no 10:02:28 <Pikka> http://pruplethingz.com/junk/rindabite.png 10:04:09 <peter1138> well 10:04:18 <peter1138> then i might have to play 10:04:27 <Pikka> :P 10:04:32 <Pikka> but it needs bandit for the trucks 10:05:16 <peter1138> andythenorth, hurry 10:08:24 <Pikka> oops 10:08:25 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-65-161.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 10:23:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:33:58 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-77-253.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:39:44 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-126-213.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:40:30 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-89-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:40:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:46:14 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-77-253.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:50:21 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-184-207.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:51:01 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-199-117.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:56:58 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-89-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:32 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 11:25:36 *** Firartix [~artixds@www.clubnix.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:30:20 *** Strid_ [~Strid@c-81c4e455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:44 *** mkv` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:39:37 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:25 *** tparker [~tparker@2600:3c03::1d:4242] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:41:40 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:57:07 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-11-52.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 12:01:02 *** tparker [~tparker@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:9541] has joined #openttd 12:07:41 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-65-161.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:12:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:20:13 <Pikka> well if it isn't andythenorth 12:21:20 *** welshdragon [~mark-oftc@welshdragon.zernebok.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (Too many failed password attempts.))] 12:21:26 *** welshdragon [~mark-oftc@welshdragon.zernebok.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:53 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 12:30:40 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 12:34:18 <andythenorth> it isn't andythenorth 12:35:24 <Pikka> then to whom am I sprechen? 12:36:42 <Eddi|zuHause> Pikka: question came up whether your vehicle sounds could be reused in a GPL project 12:37:58 <Pikka> well, they're mostly sourced from places which I don't remember, so... 12:38:25 <Pikka> I'm happy for them to be used, but if you care about where they're originally from you might not want to use them. 12:39:57 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: vehicle sounds are one thing I've considered paying money for 12:40:16 <Pikka> really andy? 12:40:22 <andythenorth> royalty free is usually cheap 12:40:33 <andythenorth> finding sounds is time + hassle, often the rights on them are unclear 12:40:41 * andythenorth has found a lot of sounds for games in the past 12:41:13 <andythenorth> for a sound, or spend 30 mins looking for one? 12:41:24 <Pikka> eh 12:41:26 <andythenorth> dunno if sound dogs license is GPL compatible thought :o 12:41:26 <andythenorth> http://sounddogs.com/ 12:42:07 <Pikka> tbh I find the sounds need so much editing to fit TTD that you can start off with just about any old crap :) 12:42:09 <andythenorth> this said, I could never get sounds to compile with grfcodec mac, so I never pursued the idea :P 12:42:12 <Pikka> lol 12:42:22 <Pikka> I hope you're not adding running sounds to road vehicles :P 12:42:37 <andythenorth> I tried adding a bulldozer noise to HEQS 12:42:41 <andythenorth> fail :P 12:42:59 <andythenorth> HEQS might all currently sound like buses, not sure 12:43:13 <Eddi|zuHause> my main problem is that there's no appropriate startup whistle for <1950's electrics 12:43:18 *** tparker [~tparker@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:9541] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44:08 <Pikka> what should it sound like, eddi? 12:56:38 <Eddi|zuHause> Pikka: well, it can sound pretty much like a steam engine's whistle, but i'd rather have a short blow instead of the long TTD one 13:00:06 <Pikka> well, I could give you a whistle, but if you're worried about the provenance... 13:00:21 <Pikka> because I have no idea where the original sounds I created these from came from :) 13:00:49 *** tparker [~tparker@2600:3c03::1d:4242] has joined #openttd 13:01:46 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d8204bb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:14 <Eddi|zuHause> here are a few examples how it can sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtP2Q41RCs 13:07:11 <Pikka> neat :) 13:07:28 <Pikka> I'd say get one of those wooden train whistles for kids, go into an echoey room and record it ;) 13:10:00 <MINM> doesn't andy have a toddler? surely he should be able to acquire one 13:11:30 <andythenorth> I used to have an awesome tone generator app 13:11:38 <Mark> Hurrdurr, can you edit a .grf-file? 13:11:54 <andythenorth> it let you compose sounds from ~8 different tones, with generators from sine, sawtooth etc 13:12:05 <andythenorth> and one generator could modulate another 13:12:11 <Pikka> who's Hurrdurr? 13:12:15 <Mark> No one. 13:12:21 <Mark> Just a question to everyone. :) 13:12:27 <andythenorth> then you slice out a bit of tone, and visit Audacity with it... 13:12:49 <Pikka> yes, most people currently talking can I think. 13:12:51 *** andythenorth is now known as Hurrdurr 13:12:53 <Hurrdurr> no 13:12:56 <Mark> Hurrdurr: :D 13:12:57 *** Hurrdurr is now known as andythenorth 13:13:07 <Pikka> yes Hurrdurr, but it's better to start with something with a bit of timbre 13:13:22 <Mark> andythenorth: So the answer is no, you can't? 13:13:44 <Pikka> andy certainly can 13:13:54 <andythenorth> edit a .grf? 13:14:46 <Pikka> http://www.pruplethingz.com/junk/approachingproductivity.png 13:15:02 <Mark> andythenorth: Yer, edit a downloade NewGRF. 13:15:33 <andythenorth> Mark: Hurrdurr was trolling you 13:15:53 <andythenorth> Pikka: that's nice ^^ what does it do? :D 13:16:07 <Mark> aw 13:16:07 <Mark> :> 13:16:18 <Mark> Just edit some parameters like weight, torque and top speed on trains like. 13:16:40 <andythenorth> Mark: you can decompile the grf with grfcodec, edit the resulting nfo (uncommented hex), and recompile it 13:16:42 <Pikka> it voyages, andythenorth 13:16:46 <andythenorth> people do that reasonably often 13:17:10 <Mark> andythenorth: oh, sweet. 13:17:13 <Mark> Thanks! :) 13:18:05 * Pikka wonders what Mark had in mind 13:18:57 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d043:1a11:a9a4:98ba] has joined #openttd 13:19:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:34:05 *** MINM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:54 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 13:39:28 <Belugas> hello 13:40:11 <andythenorth> o/ 13:42:51 <Pikka> hello Belugas 13:42:54 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 13:43:14 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 13:45:17 <Belugas> hi hi guys :) 13:45:43 <Belugas> sun is out today. frigid, but at least, it's sunny! 13:46:20 <__ln__> it can't be out there, it's over here 13:46:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see it... 13:46:55 <Belugas> ho? so... there are now two known suns in the system! 13:47:03 <Belugas> that or...i'm on another planet :) 13:47:13 <Belugas> on another solar system! 13:59:36 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.4.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 14:05:39 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 14:10:19 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-65-161.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 14:37:15 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has joined #openttd 14:37:18 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 15:09:45 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-65-161.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:30:48 *** kkb110__ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:27 <peter1138> herpderp 15:32:41 <Pikka> werp 15:34:35 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-112-190.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:34:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 15:37:05 <Eddi|zuHause> english only! 15:37:18 <Pikka> nein! 15:38:34 <peter1138> non 15:38:50 <Rubidium> neen 15:39:34 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-110-203.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:39:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:40:21 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-199-117.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:56 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-112-190.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:21 *** APTX_ [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 15:48:23 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54:26 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-110-203.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 15:58:28 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-110-203.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:58:31 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:01:26 * NGC3982 fails to find PETER1138 in the new general catalogue 16:05:48 <peter1138> odd that 16:08:03 * Pikka parties like it's 1647 16:16:35 <NGC3982> mozart all up in this bitch. 16:16:40 <xiong> *there is another system* 16:24:51 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09eeb8.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:25:32 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-65-161.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38:59 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4a4c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:15 <andythenorth> moo! 16:42:17 *** Twofish [~Twofish@77-95-76-210.bb.cust.hknett.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:42:19 <andythenorth> moo / quak /s 16:42:40 <andythenorth> quof! 16:42:49 <andythenorth> dogfrog 16:43:21 <frosch123> how many of you have a russian supermarket in their neighbourhood? 16:43:26 <andythenorth> polish 16:43:29 <andythenorth> not russion 16:43:41 <andythenorth> for why? 16:43:56 <frosch123> well, one opened next to me 16:44:24 <frosch123> everything is labelled russian in there :p 16:44:26 <andythenorth> can you buy votes there? 16:45:41 <frosch123> does "bargaining" count as "voting"? 16:46:05 <andythenorth> only if you get to be the russian president at the end of the process :P 16:46:31 <andythenorth> frosputin 16:46:45 <frosch123> :) 16:47:14 <frosch123> would that result in a newgrf oligarchy? 16:47:20 <andythenorth> dunno 16:47:31 <andythenorth> is there one already? 16:47:47 <frosch123> we already have rationed ponies 16:48:03 <andythenorth> do ponies smoke? 16:48:10 <andythenorth> or is that bad for their health? 16:48:50 <frosch123> smoking is only good for elephants and rhinos 16:48:52 * andythenorth ponders attempting the newgrf smoke patch 16:48:57 <andythenorth> I did write a newgrf cb once 16:49:03 <andythenorth> the inverse of 'can wagon be attached' 16:49:14 <andythenorth> it worked and everything. it languishes on fs somewhere :P 16:49:21 <frosch123> (yellow teeth make them less attractive for hunting) 16:54:59 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:58:12 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 17:00:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.191.93] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:00:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.191.93] has joined #openttd 17:00:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.191.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.191.93] has joined #openttd 17:12:40 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 17:17:44 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-213-49-111-108.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 17:19:34 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:28:12 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.97.170] has joined #openttd 17:28:37 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 17:32:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has joined #openttd 17:33:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.180.163] has joined #openttd 17:37:58 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.11.118] has joined #openttd 17:39:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.191.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:20 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 17:49:49 *** FHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:51:36 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 17:56:20 *** sla_ro|vista [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 17:56:53 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A6DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:42 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:59:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:00:33 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:01:03 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:07:55 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@059-057-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 18:09:42 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@059-057-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:33 *** flaa [~flaa@089-101-093077.ntlworld.ie] has joined #openttd 18:14:18 <NGC3982> does delivering passengers to oil rigs stimulate the oil production? 18:14:59 <planetmaker> Nope. You also don't get soylent green 18:15:52 <NGC3982> bah 18:15:55 <NGC3982> i was hoping for that. 18:16:25 <planetmaker> write a NewGRF which does exactly that ;-) 18:16:40 <NGC3982> i was actually ranting about on that last week 18:16:59 <NGC3982> but then, with passengers stimulating all the normal industries. 18:20:13 <Terkhen> hello 18:30:23 <Alberth> NGC3982: /me has been pondering about that too; could be fun 18:35:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:35:28 <NGC3982> sure, it aint that realistic 18:35:37 <NGC3982> but it will make small maps extremely more vibrant 18:35:43 <NGC3982> as far as im concerned. 18:39:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:39:55 <Alberth> andy: o/ 18:42:25 <NGC3982> Alberth: how advanced is building such a grf? 18:42:52 <NGC3982> im more or less a newbie on anything in code. i write some C#, but i have no conception on how compilation and stuff is made or executed. 18:43:39 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 18:43:41 <andythenorth> tip for the wise 18:43:52 <andythenorth> 'cept the wise will already know 18:43:55 <andythenorth> sequences[i] = PixaSequence(points=coil_load), 18:44:01 <andythenorth> where sequences is a dict 18:44:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24017 /trunk/src/lang/swedish.txt: 18:44:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:44:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: swedish - 1 changes by Zuu 18:44:11 <andythenorth> will cause much pondering 18:44:21 <andythenorth> that was 20 mins to debug :( 18:48:54 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:53:46 <xiong> I have some rather specific ideas about the initial distributions of towns, cities, and industries when starting a new game. Would it be possible to adjust these by writing a NewGRF or would a patch be required? 18:55:37 <andythenorth> somewhat the former, possibly the latter, possibly NoGo 18:55:57 <frosch123> nothing can influence the position of towns on map creation 18:56:10 <frosch123> newgrfs can influence the position of industries 18:56:19 <frosch123> nogo can influence town growth in the game 18:56:53 <andythenorth> can nogo influence much at map creation time? or does it rely on a created map? 18:58:06 <frosch123> nogo runs after map creation, but before the game starts 18:58:15 <frosch123> so it can change some stuff after map creation 18:58:18 <frosch123> but not much 18:58:31 <frosch123> e.g. it could create a road network 18:59:49 <Alberth> NGC3982: nml is simpler than C#, and 'compilation' is as simple as nmlc foo.nml :) 19:02:16 <xiong> Nothing? That seems extreme. 19:02:36 <frosch123> well, none of the usual ottd plugins 19:02:43 <frosch123> source code can of course change stuff 19:02:54 <frosch123> and of course you can make a scenario :p 19:03:13 <xiong> I see 'TerraGenesis'. Does that merely create landforms or does it also allocate towns and industries? 19:03:29 <frosch123> it only does the height 19:03:36 <xiong> Ah. 19:03:54 <xiong> I think there's sufficient control over that. 19:04:01 <frosch123> maybe also sea, if you consider that part of height 19:04:28 <xiong> I'm only concerned about towns and industries. 19:04:52 <NGC3982> Alberth: oh, i see. 19:04:55 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:11 <xiong> Perhaps it would be enough to write a NewGRF to *evaluate* town and industry distribution after creation; one could then simply chuck it and try again. 19:05:26 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:05:39 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.11.118] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:06:09 <frosch123> oh, i think you can write a nogo script which scores the map, sends the result to the admin port, and some external device on the admin port triggers a new game 19:07:10 <NGC3982> Alberth: where do i look for examples of "setting an industry to <accept thing> and therefor <produce another>"? 19:07:12 <NGC3982> :) 19:07:35 <frosch123> google for nml tutorial 19:08:14 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-104-252.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:08:57 <NGC3982> ok 19:08:58 * andythenorth ponders registering for simuscape 19:09:16 <andythenorth> NGC3982: opengfx+ industries might help you 19:09:20 <andythenorth> or manual industries grf 19:09:30 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ 19:12:53 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.104.165] has joined #openttd 19:13:23 <xiong> frosch123, That's exactly the outline of my idea; thanks. 19:13:45 <xiong> I appreciate the thought, andythenorth; but I'm not sure that's my direction. 19:14:58 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:25:01 <NGC3982> andythenorth: i see. 19:31:52 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/tT6Bd.png 19:37:25 <Alberth> adding some violence to the game? 19:39:55 <andythenorth> that's for the new disasters framework I think 19:40:08 <andythenorth> vehicles can destroy buildings 19:40:10 <andythenorth> ships can sink 19:40:13 <andythenorth> bridges collapse 19:40:31 * andythenorth ponders 19:40:47 <andythenorth> how did it get established that micro-management is bad? 19:41:32 <Alberth> did you know Python does not really support nested classes? :) 19:41:48 <andythenorth> I do now :P 19:41:53 <supermop> i like micromanagement 19:42:20 <Alberth> micro management is mostly bad because it scales badly, perhaps? 19:42:23 <andythenorth> Alberth: is that wrt to some of the classes-in-classes I have? 19:42:31 * Alberth nods 19:42:39 <supermop> i want to be able to fire my bus driver if he disobeys the timetable 19:42:43 <andythenorth> Alberth ach, is it a problem I should be fixing? 19:44:15 <Alberth> I would, I am not sure how much of it works by sheer luck, and how much is supported 19:44:54 <andythenorth> so I just move the class defs out, change any self.fooclass stuff 19:44:58 <andythenorth> should still work 19:45:04 <Alberth> and your editor does not show trailing white space :) 19:45:08 <andythenorth> I could teach it 19:46:07 <Alberth> it might scare you 19:47:45 <andythenorth> ha 19:47:54 <andythenorth> found an option: Strip trailing whitespace 19:47:57 <andythenorth> think it does it on save 19:48:13 <andythenorth> I should disable 'force newline at end' :P 19:49:36 <Alberth> nah, EOL at end is good :) 19:50:30 <Alberth> (assuming 'end' is EOF) 19:50:50 <Alberth> vi does that for 30 years already :) 19:56:02 <planetmaker> andythenorth, you're also using TextWrangler, aren't you? 19:56:09 <andythenorth> yup 19:56:15 <planetmaker> Kinda since I use that, that option works quite nicely for me ;-) 19:56:17 <andythenorth> you didn't happen to teach it nml did you? 19:56:35 <planetmaker> Caused on some devzone projects quite some whitespace commits :-P 19:56:41 <planetmaker> no, I didn't yet :-( 19:57:04 <andythenorth> I read the start of the docs on syntax colouring, ran away 19:57:15 <andythenorth> I use ANSI C for nml 19:57:19 <andythenorth> kind of works 19:58:09 <planetmaker> :-) yeah... the same for me with the syntax colouring texts 20:10:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-77-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:17:21 <Alberth> andy: you can gain a lot of readability by a little more careful vertical alignment, I think 20:22:05 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:53 * planetmaker aligns andy vertically and reads him 20:25:41 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1178/ some small changes :) 20:26:46 * Alberth always wondered why all stars of the universe are in a flat plane 20:27:45 <Alberth> andy: and a lot of variable documentation comments could be @ivar epydocs :) 20:39:51 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:48:36 *** DrSpangle [~dsmullen@CPE18593342d131-CM18593342d12e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 20:49:21 *** welshdragon [~mark-oftc@welshdragon.zernebok.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (Too many failed password attempts.))] 20:49:37 *** welshdragon [~mark-oftc@welshdragon.zernebok.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:31 *** kkb110__ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:25 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-11-52.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:09:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A6DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:48 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@exit2.ipredator.se] has joined #openttd 21:11:08 <Eddi|zuHause> <frosch123> how many of you have a russian supermarket in their neighbourhood? <-- that was called "russenmagazin" over here... but it kinda disappeared in the 1990s :p 21:11:59 <frosch123> well, the cookies i bought were crap 21:14:34 <frosch123> i put them in the oven for 15 minutes, and they tasted better :) 21:14:34 *** flaa [~flaa@089-101-093077.ntlworld.ie] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:14:36 *** smoovi [~smoovi@e178228184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:16:57 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:25:36 *** kkb110__ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:41:33 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@1RDAADL0T.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:30 *** sla_ro|vista [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 21:49:11 <supermop> do maglevs or monorails have different acelleration in game? 21:49:13 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:49:22 <frosch123> yes 21:49:59 <supermop> is this a property of the track type or the trains? 21:50:06 <frosch123> maglev have no friction and no tractive effort; only power 21:50:17 <supermop> and monorail? 21:50:18 <frosch123> it's a property of the track type 21:50:46 <planetmaker> track types choose an acceleration model. Monorail... has it's own iirc 21:50:51 <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0/Railtypes#Acceleration_model_.2815.29 21:51:01 <frosch123> says only maglev is different 21:51:13 <andythenorth> hmm 21:51:18 <planetmaker> ok :-) 21:51:20 <andythenorth> 1/8 long cargo sprites 21:51:22 <andythenorth> meh to that 21:51:33 <frosch123> monorail has a different curve speed modifier though 21:51:56 <supermop> so if someone wanted a set with say rubber tired trains, or alweg monorails, is there a model to ascribe to that track type to give it different behaviour from steel wheel on steel rail? 21:52:01 * andythenorth just sped up pixa by 1/8 :P 21:52:38 <frosch123> supermop: rubber tired trains would be a property of the train 21:52:46 <frosch123> i.e. their tractive effort coefficient would be higher 21:52:48 <planetmaker> supermop, different wheels don't change the accel model. Just the TE 21:54:13 <supermop> so if i wanted to say 'these monorails, metros, people-movers, etc have rubber tires so they accelerate faster, can better negotiate steep grades etc' 21:54:34 <supermop> i would do that by just giving all of those vehicles a higher TE? 21:54:39 <planetmaker> ^^ 21:55:12 <supermop> is te set by new grf or automatically calculated in game? 21:55:29 <planetmaker> it's a property you have to set as newgrf author 21:55:29 <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0/Vehicles/Trains#Coefficient_of_tractive_effort_.281F.29 21:56:06 <frosch123> resp. http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Train_properties :) 21:57:08 <supermop> so monorail doesnt have any inherent differences from rail? 21:57:29 <frosch123> trains can drive faster in curves 21:57:37 <supermop> ok 21:57:52 <frosch123> see "curve speed advantage multiplier" on the railtype property page 21:58:19 <supermop> is that alterable in the railtype newgrf? 21:58:30 * andythenorth wonders how pixa can go faster 21:58:33 <frosch123> yes 21:58:42 * andythenorth suspects severe lack of optimisation :P 21:58:57 <supermop> so i can adjust the amount of curve bonus it gets? 21:59:37 <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Railtypes <- just read those two pages 21:59:48 <frosch123> and you know everything which can be changed about acceleration 21:59:52 <frosch123> via newgrfs 22:00:01 *** Netsplit over, joins: TheMask96 22:00:01 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: @Yexo, XeryusTC, __ln__, tneo, FHerne, mahmoud, Stimrol, HerzogDeXtEr1, Zuu, APTX_, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:00:12 *** Netsplit over, joins: __ln__, Stimrol 22:00:20 *** dfox [~dfox@94.113.17.246] has joined #openttd 22:00:38 *** Netsplit over, joins: Zuu 22:00:38 *** tneo [~tneo@178.63.83.101] has joined #openttd 22:00:45 *** Netsplit over, joins: mahmoud 22:01:14 *** Netsplit over, joins: XeryusTC, V453000 22:01:41 *** Netsplit over, joins: Yexo 22:01:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by ChanServ 22:01:45 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 22:03:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.180.163] has joined #openttd 22:07:20 *** peteris [~peteris@78.84.97.170] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:16:16 * andythenorth -> sleep 22:16:22 <andythenorth> bye 22:18:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:20:47 <frosch123> night 22:20:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4a4c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:55 *** kkb110__ [~kkb110@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:22:57 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-3-208.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:28:34 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-110-203.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:33:06 *** FHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:39:42 <NGC3982> is there any way for me to move large quantities of vehichles into a new group? 22:41:44 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:44:18 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 22:45:28 <NGC3982> what the 22:45:36 <NGC3982> i cant get the autoreplace to work 22:45:56 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/qoa1s.png 22:48:06 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:48:12 <planetmaker> NGC3982: from what you sho, the autoreplace is active 22:48:27 <planetmaker> trains need to be able to visit depots though 22:49:07 <NGC3982> i sent them to depot, clicked the start button, and it ..just sits there. 22:49:10 <planetmaker> hm... though maybe the error is: you can only replace diesel by electric in an electric depot 22:49:18 <planetmaker> the sh40 is electric 22:49:29 <NGC3982> ooh! 22:49:48 <NGC3982> of course, i dont have electric rail. 22:49:55 <NGC3982> thank you. 22:53:00 *** FHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 23:02:11 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 23:09:17 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-104-252.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09:49 <Terkhen> good night 23:11:13 *** DrSpangle [~dsmullen@CPE18593342d131-CM18593342d12e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #openttd [] 23:11:28 *** DrSpangle [~dsmullen@CPE18593342d131-CM18593342d12e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 23:11:38 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.104.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20:21 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-213-49-111-108.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 23:29:12 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:33:56 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:05 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:52:13 <Rhamphoryncus> That's a little strange. My grasshopper slows down in tunnels. 23:52:48 <Eddi|zuHause> too high wind resistance? 23:55:45 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]