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05:20:12  <NGC3982> morning
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06:38:05  <xiong> Just to be combative... good evening.
06:40:06  <NGC3982> ;)
06:41:09  <NGC3982> it's a hall & oates wednesday.
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07:29:11  <xiong> Okay. It was a Bessie Smith Monday.
07:31:04  <NGC3982> oh
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09:08:35  <Eddi|zuHause> <? if ('9223372036854775807' == '9223372036854775808') { echo "hurz!\n"; } ?>
09:09:35  <peter1138> php ftw
09:10:03  <NGC3982> i was like "thats no excel formula"
09:10:03  <NGC3982> :(
09:13:48  <CornishPasty> Stupid php :P
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09:15:16  <Eddi|zuHause> that's because php is "intelligent"
09:15:30  <NGC3982> :E
09:15:42  <Eddi|zuHause> if comparing strings, it first checks whether the strings look like numbers. and then converts them. and then compares them
09:17:26  <CornishPasty> Although anyone using == is kinda silly
09:17:33  <CornishPasty> It doesn't work if you use ===
09:18:01  <Rhamphoryncus> == should be removed from the language
09:22:04  <CornishPasty> Agreed
09:22:14  <CornishPasty> == should replicate the functionality of ===
09:22:43  <CornishPasty> have an ini setting for people who need it for old scripts, something like "stupid_equals_shit = On"
09:24:23  <goodger> what's the difference?
09:25:48  <dihedral> greetings
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09:26:59  <CornishPasty> goodger: http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php
09:28:12  * goodger headdesks
09:30:03  <CornishPasty> Yup
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09:33:13  <goodger> makes me glad I never learned PHP
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09:34:59  <CornishPasty> Heh
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09:39:47  <goodger> also makes me glad that python is strongly typed
09:44:15  <blathijs> Uh, what?
09:45:36  <blathijs> Ah wait, dynamic/static typing != strong/weak typing, of course
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09:53:13  <TinoDidriksen> Now if only Python had a strict mode where you had to declare variables...
09:57:30  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i'm missing some syntactical sugar that computes to a "assert <some conformance condition"
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10:21:33  <drac_boy> hi
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10:46:48  <drac_boy> any of you think it might be plausible for the drive-thru station to determine whether its inside or outside the town?
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11:21:49  <drac_boy> and I can't recall right now who mentioned the issue with LNER garrat but I found a unusual photo of it while looking for something else: http://users.powernet.co.uk/hamilton/bgpix/4980.jpg
11:22:08  <drac_boy> weird tank it got instead of the usual boxy fuel tender
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11:26:48  <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: road stations cannot vary their graphics
11:28:33  <drac_boy> think its too hard-coded or one day could be done?
11:28:48  <Eddi|zuHause> yes.
11:29:11  <drac_boy> which one? heh
11:29:23  <Eddi|zuHause> ;)
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11:34:44  <drac_boy> Eddi|zuHause don't know if you could help much but if you had tried a train grf that also included mine rails (2ft gauge and always electrified) which was very cheap to build a long route with and had little runcost. would you probably had tried it?
11:35:06  <drac_boy> hm sorry...ignore the second sentence -_-
11:38:13  <Eddi|zuHause> yes?
11:38:39  <Eddi|zuHause> i had big interest in getting the industrial trams into HEQS :)
11:38:53  <drac_boy> heh so it was really you? hm :)
11:40:24  <goodger> TinoDidriksen: Cython does include that exact feature
11:40:47  <goodger> but it's optional, and it's only to allow certain optimisations of the C it produces
11:41:50  <Eddi|zuHause> goodger: we're talking about debugging features. not optimisation features. they're kinda demetrically opposite
11:42:05  <Eddi|zuHause> *diametric
11:42:16  <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what i actually wrote there :p
11:42:33  <goodger> hmm
11:43:01  <goodger> if pushed to choose, I would go for "arising from, or concerning, measurements"
11:48:09  <drac_boy> eddi the other thing I had been thinking about related to mine trains tho...
11:49:35  <drac_boy> what do you think of having two coal mines (assuming industry slots had a free spot) and one is a normal underground mine but the other one can only be built on non-flat ground and contains a short section of animated mine train moving in and out with a string of single tippler cars?
11:50:11  <drac_boy> I think one of the newgrf ore mine had something a little similar but it was a quarry so it was always visible tho
11:56:56  <Rhamphoryncus> drac_boy: You might be able to do that as a single industry.  I know I've seen some conditional stuff for snowy vs normal industry variants
11:58:41  <drac_boy> Rhamphoryncus hmm I'll try check the newgrf wiki for that then
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12:20:07  <drac_boy> silly question, is it only one smoke plume location per locomotive?
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12:28:26  <Eddi|zuHause> yes. but articulated parts can steam as well
12:30:34  <drac_boy> yeah I was just wondering about single locomotives
12:31:11  <drac_boy> I guess that something like eg the Fairlie could always be coded as one locomotive with a single invisible pixel for the second part so it could still make double smokes.  right?
12:31:56  * drac_boy always thought these double-boiler locomotives were a crazy idea tbh
12:31:57  <drac_boy> :)
12:32:13  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that's possible
12:32:24  <Eddi|zuHause> although you may get some glitches if done improperly
12:33:12  <Rhamphoryncus> Wouldn't that mean when going around corners the smoke would project past the edge of the track?
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12:54:23  <FLHerne> drac_boy: I know it's an hour ago, but... "LNER garrat but I found a unusual photo" - That's an LMS version :P
12:54:50  <FLHerne> The rotating coal bunkers were a bit odd
12:55:26  * FLHerne stops being pedantic
12:56:49  <drac_boy> oh..sorry...lms..lner... both are L to me :p
12:57:22  <drac_boy> and btw hi there + see you later maybe ok?  I'm going off for a while now. too many other things to do now :-s
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14:38:28  <NGC3982> guys, something bizarre just happend
14:38:40  <Fori> hi
14:39:43  <NGC3982> im using multiple grfs (just added all the "vehicle" content i found). i bought myself a Hereford Leopard Bus and added a driving location. this is what the busses look like: http://i.imgur.com/c0xzi.png
14:40:05  <NGC3982> looks at the two vehicles in the middle
14:40:24  <NGC3982> that traktor-green-white-bus-truck is a hereford leopard.
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14:44:17  <NGC3982> it seems to reappear when the busses get to the station for loading and unloading.
14:44:21  <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/P1qKM.png
14:45:50  <planetmaker> NGC3982: enjoy the ingame screenshot function available via ctrl+S
14:47:59  <NGC3982> well yes, that leaves me with a png file. the imgur "app" hyperdesktop lets me click and upload in one go.
14:50:38  <Rhamphoryncus> NGC3982: sounds like something is broken or conflicting
14:53:20  <NGC3982> i realized that they show the wrong sprite (right?) when they are facing 45 degrees down-left.
14:54:43  <andythenorth> can ottd have a new compile target?
14:54:47  <andythenorth> 'make choo choo'
14:54:52  <andythenorth> I guess I could just alias it :P
14:54:56  <andythenorth> 'make run -j13'
14:55:02  <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: but we'd see your used NewGRFs in the openttd screenshot
14:55:18  <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: so which do you think is more precious: your time or ours?
14:59:53  <NGC3982> excuse me?
15:01:12  <NGC3982> im simply showing what's happening in my game. what of this talk about precious time?
15:05:49  <NGC3982> and yes, i ..guess the bus is a newgrf. i dont actually know.
15:06:33  <NGC3982> Rhamphoryncus: i guess i have been using one or two many grfs together..
15:06:39  <Rhamphoryncus> andythenorth: hey, guess what I'm doing
15:06:49  <andythenorth> micro-managing supplies?
15:06:59  <Rhamphoryncus> Nope.  I'm enjoying them.
15:07:59  <Rhamphoryncus> I realized from my last game that if you take an autorefit approach then they're free.  You naturally bring them back to the source
15:09:55  <andythenorth> and you worry about micro-managing quantities...or not?
15:10:28  <supermop> not his problem that the coal mine bought 100 huge dump trucks in one month
15:10:56  <andythenorth> one of the reasons I get irritated by supplies....
15:11:18  <andythenorth> ....there's a lot of whining about 'omfg, I have to timetable to deliver precisely 1t per month'
15:11:36  <andythenorth> which is insanely unimaginative
15:11:45  <Rhamphoryncus> Nope.  Don't care.  A single train does iron ore mine -> steel mill -> machine shop -> iron ore mine
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15:12:23  <Rhamphoryncus> I just make sure it has the right wagon selection and I'm done
15:12:44  * andythenorth had probably better stop discussing supplies :P
15:12:48  <andythenorth> it always ends badly for me
15:13:22  <Rhamphoryncus> Technically it's wasteful because it has 10 wagons for iron ore and 3 for metal/engsup, but that bothers me very little in comparison
15:13:33  <Rhamphoryncus> Hey, I only brought it up this time because I'm *enjoying* it :)
15:13:57  <andythenorth> :)
15:14:59  <Rhamphoryncus> I plan to add a coal mine loop that shares the steel mill/machine shop portion, so I'll have to change the wagon numbers due to the production synergy.  Doesn't bother me either :)
15:15:20  <andythenorth> Rhamphoryncus: so you're not going to submit a patch removing them?  And all associated industries?
15:15:22  <andythenorth> :P
15:15:43  <Rhamphoryncus> I do have some ideas on how to redesign farmsup/engsup around this, but that can wait until later
15:15:46  <Rhamphoryncus> Not at the moment ;)
15:16:20  <andythenorth> k
15:16:26  <andythenorth> nice that you're enjoying it
15:16:45  <Rhamphoryncus> Nice to not be bitching
15:16:46  * andythenorth feels only bitterness :)
15:17:25  <Rhamphoryncus> heh
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15:18:32  <NGC3982> ah, saving and restarting the game worked nicely.
15:21:24  <supermop> i want turret trucks to deliver .25t of supplies
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15:29:22  <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like the typical weight a rollator would carry :)
15:32:25  <supermop> haha
15:36:10  <peter1138> a what?
15:37:11  <Rhamphoryncus> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rollator
15:38:31  <Achilleshiel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw
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15:46:11  <Rhamphoryncus> Is it still cheesy to build a road route with only a single road tile (meaning it's tiny) when there's only a 3-tile gap between the steel mill and the metal fabrication shop? :)
15:46:15  <Rhamphoryncus> err metal workshop
15:47:44  <goodger> somewhat yes
15:48:55  <goodger> but since you can build stations that magically teleport cargo further than that, it's no great realism issue at least
15:50:04  <FLHerne> It's a good use for those very slow foundry transporters...
15:50:05  <Rhamphoryncus> Oh!  Clearly I should use a forklift :D
15:53:00  <Rhamphoryncus> hrm too little volume heh
15:58:50  <FLHerne> I've got 672 of those forklifts now :P
15:59:03  <FLHerne> They cause quite a bit of congestion
16:02:32  <Rhamphoryncus> heh
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16:03:04  <Rhamphoryncus> It was cute when I replaced one truck with one forklift.  Not so much at 10 forklifts
16:03:18  <FLHerne> Has anyone found a use for the rail Gmund-Mogs>
16:03:25  <FLHerne> *?#
16:04:01  <FLHerne> Road ones have a purpose, rail ones seem pointless without shunting/consist modification
16:04:15  <Eddi|zuHause> i used it once
16:05:13  <FLHerne> What for?
16:05:46  <Eddi|zuHause> hauling FMSP
16:05:53  <Eddi|zuHause> in a single-wagon train
16:07:13  <FLHerne> Ah. I always ship those to the railhead in bulk and then use forklifts, hence all the forklifts :P
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16:16:58  <Eddi|zuHause> it was a route nearly orthogonal to any of my other routes
16:17:03  <Eddi|zuHause> so i chose this method
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16:36:22  <frosch123> everyday i do not get spam in my mail box, i think something is broken :p
16:37:54  <Eddi|zuHause> i never get spam :(
16:39:13  * Rubidium got a spamburger once ;)
16:41:42  <frosch123> hmm, for what screen resolution are 1024x1024 icons?
16:42:00  <Rubidium> looking at OSX icons?
16:42:11  <frosch123> yeah
16:42:24  <Rubidium> probably for the the new new ipad
16:42:35  <frosch123> fullscreen icons?
16:42:38  <Rubidium> so 3kx4k, then it's a lovely 3 by 4 icons
16:42:59  <Rubidium> which is even more icons than my phone's screen can handle at a time
16:43:13  <frosch123> ok :)
16:44:02  <Rubidium> but it's really a stupidly large icon
16:44:21  <Rubidium> even 256x256 is honestly pushing it already
16:45:05  <frosch123> yeah, but if you want to use it as heightmap you really need at least 256x256
16:45:14  <Eddi|zuHause> shouldn't you be thinking about vectorizing the icons at that point?
16:45:32  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: why should we?
16:45:49  <Rubidium> these huge icons are, after all, generated from a vector image
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16:48:34  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but it gets more and more silly to generate "icons" in larger and larger sizes. so the OS should just be rendering the vector image in the first place
16:49:11  <Rhamphoryncus> Pretty sure gnome can do that, but if osx can't then generate whatever it wants
16:50:27  <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and convert openttd to do vector-rendering while at it :)
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16:52:13  <goodger> the OS can't reliably produce small versions of a vector image
16:53:33  <goodger> not at current display resolutions, at least
16:54:43  <goodger> compare http://tango.freedesktop.org/mediawiki/images/4/4e/Xlarge.png to http://jimmac.musichall.cz/wipicons/Tango/48x48/x-directory-normal-drag-accept.png and http://jimmac.musichall.cz/wipicons/Tango/16x16/x-directory-normal-drag-accept.png
16:57:41  <goodger> even if the display resolution were much higher, the icons would still have to be simplified at smaller sizes because the human eye couldn't distinguish all the detail
16:57:43  <Terkhen> hello
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17:36:21  <andythenorth> hmm
17:36:28  * andythenorth might have to stay out forums
17:36:35  <andythenorth> causes rageness
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17:36:52  <andythenorth> maybe andythenorth should take a chill pill
17:36:54  <andythenorth> and relax
17:36:58  <andythenorth> it's only a game :P
17:37:14  <planetmaker> what causes you to rage, andythenorth?
17:37:19  * planetmaker thought it's a calm day
17:37:30  <andythenorth> 'what is the release date?'
17:37:36  <andythenorth> fricking idiots
17:37:38  <planetmaker> ach. Does that bother you?
17:37:49  <planetmaker> I had fun :-)
17:39:20  <planetmaker> it's a new guy. They have one such question for free ;-)
17:40:06  <Wolf01> hello
17:40:17  <planetmaker> hi Wolf01
17:40:29  <andythenorth> some days my reason deserts me :P
17:41:06  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24112 /trunk/src/lang/spanish.txt:
17:41:06  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:41:06  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: spanish - 1 changes by Terkhen
17:41:34  <andythenorth> since having children, I've learnt how a quite small amount of sleep deprivation can change your personality quite a lot
17:41:51  <andythenorth> and a lot of sleep deprivation is really quite strange and mad
17:43:32  <Rhamphoryncus> IMO it's a good question.  Enough that it wouldn't hurt to post it on the main page (particularly since all the news there relates to it.)
17:45:19  <andythenorth> sometimes I think the traditional PHPBB forum format has some limitations wrt communities :P
17:45:29  <andythenorth> well obviously it has limitations, all software does :P
17:46:15  <Rhamphoryncus> That format hasn't evolved much in.. 5?  10 years?
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17:55:05  <NGC3982> andythenorth: having trouble snoozing the old buzzer?
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18:08:09  <Sarah> please someone can help me?
18:08:25  <Vaulter> someone surely can
18:08:25  <Vaulter> Hi there
18:08:44  <Sarah> i dont know how to take screenshots from openTTD
18:09:13  <V453000> ctrl s
18:09:37  <Sarah> nothing happens
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18:10:52  <Fori> Hi!
18:11:10  <Vaulter> Look at (?) toolbar button
18:11:37  <Vaulter> Press it!
18:11:55  <planetmaker> press and hold control, then s
18:12:01  <planetmaker> concurrently
18:12:01  <Vaulter> and hold
18:12:20  <Fori> I have observed a strange behaviour concerning the distribution of food.
18:12:20  <planetmaker> if you are on OSX, then press cmd+s
18:12:38  <planetmaker> hm... I wonder. I need to check :-D
18:12:53  <Fori> A town which isn't even in the reach of my station gets it's food and the one next to it, which is in reach, doesnt get it?
18:12:56  <Fori> How can that be?
18:13:41  <Vaulter> some houses are too far from their hometown ?
18:13:59  <Vaulter> check houses by inspect tool
18:14:06  <planetmaker> the station is in / on tiles which belong to the other town
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18:16:10  <Fori> Thanks planet!
18:16:13  <Fori> That's the point!
18:16:25  <Fori> But the main, named tile, is in the town to be supplied?
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18:20:28  <Fori> I adjusted it so that it's now only on tiles belonging to the town I want to be supplied.
18:20:32  <Fori> Let's see what the month brings-
18:22:09  <Eddi|zuHause> one more reason to automatically split (evenly) between all suitible targets near the station
18:22:46  <Fori> Well Eddie. Do towns work like industries in that case?
18:23:00  <Fori> Since the other town isn't in reach of the station?
18:23:04  <Fori> And still gets the food.
18:23:37  <Eddi|zuHause> Fori: if the houses would get the food directly, then they'd know which town to add the food to
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18:24:45  <Fori> Yeah.
18:24:48  <Fori> True.
18:25:00  <Fori> Planet's suggestions didnt fix it :(
18:25:29  <Fori> I'll make a screenshot.
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18:27:07  <Fori> http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=12694538
18:28:21  <Fori> Planetmaker? Got another idea maybe?
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18:30:20  <Eddi|zuHause> Fori: relevant should be the original name of the station
18:30:47  <Fori> Oh.
18:31:58  * Alberth read 'waxed' for the city :)
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18:33:11  <Fori> Eddie? So only replacing the station completely will help ?
18:34:34  <Eddi|zuHause> who?
18:34:54  <Fori> Eddi.
18:34:54  <Fori> ^^
18:34:58  <Eddi|zuHause> yes. only removing the station and building a new one (with Ctrl)
18:35:22  <Eddi|zuHause> Fori: nobody will read your replies if you don't spell out the full nickname
18:36:50  <Fori> Right.
18:36:55  <Fori> Is there a short way to do that?
18:37:01  <Eddi|zuHause> yes.
18:37:05  <Eddi|zuHause> E<tab>
18:38:05  <Fori> Eddi|zuHause: works now,  thanks!
18:38:22  <Fori> Ah, that's how you guys do it with that ":" everytime :)
18:38:25  <Fori> Thanks a lot, Eddi|zuHause
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18:50:42  <Bad_Brett> Hello everyone! This is my first time on the OpenTTD IRC channel. :)
18:51:34  <Rhamphoryncus> Hello!  It is not mine.
18:52:38  <Bad_Brett> Eddi: I was wondering about the screenshot you posted with the extra vehicle angles... Is there any chance that it will be included in the trunk?
18:58:38  <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: the relevant core parts are already in trunk, the rest are newgrf features
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19:01:40  <Fori> Hi Bad_Brett .
19:02:17  <supermop> hmm when real work interrupts writing a post several times i tend not to make any cohesive argument
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19:04:10  <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: check out http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/LATEST/ (most vehicles have no proper graphics yet, though)
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19:12:44  <Bad_Brett> Cool! So I can use that build to try extra angles for my vehicles?
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19:13:40  <Bad_Brett> ...I guess nml only supports 8 angles though
19:16:04  <Rhamphoryncus> Are you using the latest version of nmlc?  (Just guessing, dunno if it has support or not)
19:17:30  <Rubidium> OpenTTD only supports 8 angles. The rest is just a massive amount of trickery
19:19:03  <Bad_Brett> I guess it can be solved by switching between different spritesets when a vehicle enters a curve
19:19:15  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that's how it is done
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19:20:48  <Bad_Brett> Alright. In that case it's compatible without any patches, which is a good thing
19:21:35  <Zuu> Bad_Brett: That cargo generator, is it made in Matlab?
19:21:42  <Bad_Brett> Yep
19:22:36  <Bad_Brett> Though it generates industries now as well
19:22:37  <Zuu> It requires a matlab license to use it right?
19:23:02  <Bad_Brett> Nope, only the MCRCompiler which should be free to download
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19:23:27  <Zuu> Oh, though you would need a 10 000 Euro license to use it (unless you are a student) :-)
19:24:06  <Bad_Brett> I'm a civil engineer :)
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19:24:39  <Zuu> Oh, actually it's only about 2000 Euro for the base version.
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19:25:59  <Zuu> Though, if you pick everything on their modules list you'll easily go over 10 000 euro. :-)
19:26:28  <Bad_Brett> Now that you mention it... I'll lose my license in a few months... better hurry... or switch to C# :)
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19:28:29  <Zuu> hehe, to migrate my OTTDAU development to a new computer I need to buy a license for 1000 euro to get hold of a compiler that is somewhat compatible to the compiler I use today that once used to be a free of charge download.
19:29:55  <Rhamphoryncus> Oh, cute.  Changing your autorefit orders switches full load any to full load all
19:29:55  <Zuu> They do have a "starter edition" for just 100 euro, but it only contains the latest version of the compiler that is quite lacking on backward compatibility.
19:30:29  <Eddi|zuHause> you don't need backwards compatibility for starters :)
19:30:57  <__ln__> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
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19:33:49  <Bad_Brett> 1000 euros sound insane
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19:38:04  <Bad_Brett> The Matlab compiler runtime is free: http://www.mathworks.com/products/compiler/mcr/index.html
19:38:13  <Bad_Brett> Though that file is INSANELY big
19:38:36  <Eddi|zuHause> 1000 euro is nothing in industrial scale software
19:39:25  <Bad_Brett> no of course no... but it's not something that you buy just for fun
19:40:08  <Bad_Brett> But if I remember correctly I have the right to attach the old compiler my projects
19:43:08  <Bad_Brett> Anyway, is it possible to edit the groundsprites with NML (Such as adding more animation frames to the water tiles) or can I only replace the standard tiles?
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19:46:01  <Eddi|zuHause> no, you can only add animation to objects, not to plain ground tiles
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19:46:27  <Eddi|zuHause> there is only one water sprite, the rest is done by palette tricks
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19:52:02  <Bad_Brett> Really? How on earth can a gain control over that?
19:52:42  <Eddi|zuHause> not at all
19:53:44  <Eddi|zuHause> Bad_Brett: there are so many water tiles on an average map, "real" animation would probably grind the game to a halt...
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19:56:16  <Bad_Brett> Yep, I realise that
19:56:46  <Bad_Brett> But when I add 32bpp water tiles, can I somehow make use of this "palette trick"?
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20:04:44  <Eddi|zuHause> there is recolouring for 32bpp sprites, but i don't know how to use it
20:08:49  <michi_cc> Eddi|zuHause: Care to post http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=56112 to Flyspray for better reference? *hint hint*
20:09:16  <Eddi|zuHause> hehe :)
20:09:34  <frosch123> how many seconds can you make it?
20:10:52  <Eddi|zuHause> i'll check if that is really the latest version that i have first
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20:11:27  <drac_boy> hi
20:12:50  <Eddi|zuHause> i also have some "fix fence drawing" from that timeframe, which afair fixes some corner cases with certain slopes
20:13:00  <Eddi|zuHause> i'll add it to the report
20:16:07  <michi_cc> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/git/openttd.git/commitdiff/ae33a22a4a0f104e32c506df47466f7b7a50b859
20:16:46  <Eddi|zuHause> attaching files seems to be broken without javascript...
20:19:10  <Eddi|zuHause> wah, forget to change to "patch"
20:20:06  <Eddi|zuHause> michi_cc: yes, that is only the "first half"
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20:29:38  <Eddi|zuHause> michi_cc: why the second patch is needed: http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%206.%20Jul%201988.png
20:30:23  <Eddi|zuHause> or it was, back then
20:30:34  <Eddi|zuHause> haven't checked in a while
20:30:58  <michi_cc> Okay, I'll check.
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20:33:43  <Eddi|zuHause> it's also possible i missed some cases
20:34:31  <Eddi|zuHause> while reading the patch, i think i didn't check steep slopes with halftile foundations
20:35:55  <supermop> ah your fences
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20:40:53  <Wolf01> 'night all
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20:42:25  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (15*15*100)/(13*13*342)
20:42:25  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 0.389286826534
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20:52:51  <drac_boy> hm curse it, which australia locomotives were for cape gauge -_-
20:54:09  <Eddi|zuHause> wikipedia might know that
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21:03:23  <drac_boy> eddi mm problem is so much of these list seem to be standard/broad gauge but nevermind..I found an old site that had the cape gauge seperated out
21:03:26  <drac_boy> thanks still
21:07:12  <Terkhen> good night
21:07:16  <drac_boy> bye Terkhen
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21:12:40  <drac_boy> heh think I found a nice little diesel locomotive
21:12:58  <drac_boy> 3-axle 250hp light shunt
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22:54:38  <drac_boy> how many countries more or less did run cabless locomotive units? (you know..like with EMD FB7 or GE U30B in north america)
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