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11:26:41 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:05 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:31:27 <Hazzard> Hello 11:31:57 <Hazzard> Is there anywhere I can see the actuall tile sizes (hitboxes if you will) for the TTD landscape? 11:36:12 <frosch123> set newgrf_developer_tools 1 11:36:14 <frosch123> ctrl+b 11:36:29 <frosch123> that's the only thing we have, not sure what you want though :) 11:42:51 <Hazzard> Hmm, that doesnt seem to do anything 11:43:03 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Debugging <- make sure to activate the newgrf developer tools 11:44:51 <Hazzard> Thats not quite what I need 11:45:04 <frosch123> did you ctrl+b? 11:45:08 <Hazzard> I want something like the landscape tiles 11:45:11 <Hazzard> yes 11:45:12 <frosch123> it's not listed on that page 11:45:33 <frosch123> no idea then 11:50:22 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 12:01:09 <Hazzard> I want something that shows 1 blank ground tile, something like this 12:01:10 <Hazzard> http://i.imgur.com/8pcSU.png 12:01:38 <frosch123> what do you want to do with that? 12:01:51 <Hazzard> except where you can actually tell where the edges are 12:02:10 <planetmaker> uhm... the tiles have quite clear edges by default, no? 12:02:30 <Hazzard> I want to make an object 12:02:40 <Hazzard> I need an isolated tile 12:02:57 <planetmaker> still not clear why... 12:03:26 <frosch123> maybe you mean transparency options? 12:03:35 <frosch123> setting everything to invisible 12:04:06 <Hazzard> No 12:05:12 <Hazzard> I just need the size and shape of one isolated sloped tile so I know the size to draw 12:05:33 <frosch123> then check out opengfx source 12:05:42 <frosch123> and use the source sprites 12:06:00 <frosch123> or use the in-game sprite aligner and make a screenshot with ctrl+s 12:06:11 <planetmaker> yup ^^ 12:07:15 <Hazzard> What is this in-game sprite aligner? 12:07:32 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Debugging :) 12:07:58 <frosch123> click "pick" and then click anywhere on the landscape where your desired slope is 12:08:00 <Hazzard> ah, silly me 12:08:43 <planetmaker> or look http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:List_of_tile_slopes 12:09:28 <Hazzard> Thanks 12:15:27 <Hazzard> Also, do any of you know of a good dam GRF for openttd? 12:20:23 *** Hazzard is now known as Hazzard_AFK 12:20:27 *** Hazzard_AFK is now known as Hazzard 12:22:00 <Hazzard> brb 12:26:35 *** telanus1 [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 12:30:02 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:22 *** telanus [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:58 <planetmaker> hm, can someone test / confirm: hysteresis when zooming in and out again multiple times. For me the visible viewport moves to tiles further North ever so slowly (half a tile per iteration) 12:51:39 <Belugas> hello 13:15:49 <Knogle> planetmaker: same happens here. 13:16:08 <planetmaker> thanks 13:33:09 *** Elu [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:40:11 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-90-14.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:42:10 <frosch123> planetmaker: sounds like rounding-issue 13:43:30 <planetmaker> yes, probably. But I wanted to know whether general or OSX ;-) 13:49:36 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:47 <__ln__> http://imgur.com/gallery/Wm7tg 14:01:13 *** Hazzard_ [~7b7b683f@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:01:27 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard 14:06:21 *** KnogleAFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:06:21 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:51 <frosch123> post that in the 32bpp thread as a good shadow example :p 14:10:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.126] has joined #openttd 14:16:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CD9F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:26 <Eddi|zuHause> wouldn't a rounding issue resolve itself after the second try (idempotence)? 14:21:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so it sounds rather like this obiwan guy popped up again... 14:25:24 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 14:39:42 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:39:45 <supermop> hi 14:43:13 <NGC3982> __ln__: oh dang. 14:51:34 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: KingJ, Cybertinus, TrueBrain, dihedral, SpComb^, tneo, mahmoud, Pinkbeast, blathijs, dotwaffle, (+29 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 14:53:54 *** CornishPasty [users.158@brockwell.irccloud.com] has quit [Killed (reticulum.oftc.net (Nick collision (new)))] 14:53:54 *** CornishPasty [users.158@brockwell.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 14:54:07 *** Netsplit over, joins: APTX, guru3, Jupix, TrueBrain, Sacro, TinoDidriksen, Pinkbeast, OwenS, opa, Rienzilla (+29 more) 14:54:38 *** CornishPasty is now known as Guest2110 14:55:14 *** Guest2110 is now known as cornishpasty 14:55:22 *** cornishpasty is now known as CornishPasty 14:56:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.173.126] has joined #openttd 15:00:49 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-053-217.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:56 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-053-217.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 15:01:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:26 *** Hazzard [~7b7b683f@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:18 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:31 *** frosch [~frosch@frnk-4d00859d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00859d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:58 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has joined #openttd 15:05:58 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has joined #openttd 15:06:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 15:06:01 *** PierreW [~ttdlx@bnc.peterbox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:06:02 *** PierreW [~ttdlx@bnc.peterbox.net] has joined #openttd 15:16:50 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-139.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:19:43 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20:02 *** DorpsGek [~dorpsgek@178-33-38-239.ovh.net] has joined #openttd 15:20:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 15:21:34 *** KnogleAFK is now known as Knogle 15:29:01 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.95.45] has joined #openttd 15:34:09 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.6.125] has joined #openttd 15:35:55 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.83.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:38:21 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.15.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:47 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09ee84.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:40:27 *** Firartix [~artixds@www.clubnix.fr] has joined #openttd 15:40:32 <andythenorth> send a tent into space? Why not 15:40:32 <andythenorth> http://www.youtube.com/user/vangotents 15:41:02 <andythenorth> [andythenorth was involved tangentially] 15:41:18 <Eddi|zuHause> your ass was involved? 15:42:41 <Rubidium> Brittish taxpayer? 15:42:56 <frosch> ah, 1.0 < 1.1 < beaufort < centaur, wasn't it obvious? 15:43:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A77B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:39 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 15:51:51 *** Firartix [~artixds@www.clubnix.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:50 *** Kylie [~Kylie@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:04 *** Kylie [~Kylie@CPE18593346e177-CM18593346e174.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 15:53:26 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:24 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:4936:5d46:9786:114] has joined #openttd 15:59:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:11:41 <frosch> would anyone notice if the "set all news message types to: off / summary / full" would be gone? 16:13:19 <Sacro> yes 16:13:22 <Sacro> now you've told me 16:13:35 <frosch> ok, would you mind it missing? :p 16:21:43 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:26:55 *** mal2 [~mal2@z529a.pia.fu-berlin.de] has joined #openttd 16:32:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:36:19 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-100-89.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:42:21 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-59-33.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:06 <Terkhen> hello 16:51:50 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 16:54:53 * andythenorth ponders monsieur bird 16:54:59 <andythenorth> ou est il? 16:55:01 *** Firartix [~artixds@207.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:53 *** APTX [APTX@89-78-217-144.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 16:56:41 * andythenorth has been pondering BANDIT scale 16:56:58 <andythenorth> pikka favours small 16:57:21 * andythenorth ponders this http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=182391&nseq=27 17:12:40 * andythenorth ponders 17:12:46 <andythenorth> doing 'farms' as towns 17:12:53 <andythenorth> is not the most insane idea ever ever 17:12:56 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=61150 17:12:57 <frosch> they are driving on the wrong side of the road 17:13:15 <andythenorth> so is everyone else, it's ok 17:13:24 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 17:13:26 <andythenorth> as long as they all do it at once, all is well 17:14:00 <andythenorth> 'farms as towns' could provide for farm clusters with lots of different outputs 17:14:05 <andythenorth> 'chicken shed' 17:14:09 <andythenorth> 'milking parlour' 17:14:12 <andythenorth> etc 17:14:33 <andythenorth> how complete is town control? Can I make produced cargo for a building depend on delivered cargo? 17:14:40 <andythenorth> (to the town) 17:15:31 *** mal2 [~mal2@z529a.pia.fu-berlin.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:18:09 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:18:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:18:24 <Terkhen> playing with town storage, maybe 17:18:32 <Terkhen> but that would drive GS crazy :P 17:18:34 <Terkhen> hi Alberth 17:18:49 <Alberth> hi hi 17:19:01 * andythenorth [shrug] wrt GS 17:19:19 <Nat_aS> so an industry with no centralized pickup point 17:19:22 <Nat_aS> that might be anoying 17:19:30 <andythenorth> not an industry 17:19:39 <andythenorth> a cluster of tiles that produce 17:19:42 <Nat_aS> it can be bad enough nailing down goods dropoffs in med size towns 17:20:05 <Nat_aS> yeah, a cluster of tiles that produce can be a pain to nail down and pickup 17:20:47 <Nat_aS> PAX is okay because you can usualy get enough passingers from a quarter of the town, and towns will eventualy grow out around the station over time 17:21:13 <Nat_aS> but delivering goods to a medium sized town that's still growing can be a pain, sometimes redevelopment causes a station to STOP accepting goods 17:21:27 <Nat_aS> now imagine if instead of accepting goods, it's producing grain 17:21:55 <Nat_aS> Industries should have centralized pickup points 17:22:26 <Nat_aS> heck, I think goods and food should be delivered to a specific "Store" industry that forms in towns 17:23:09 <andythenorth> you know an industry is just a group of tiles right? 17:23:18 <andythenorth> so no different to a cluster of tiles 17:23:43 <Nat_aS> that's irrelivent 17:23:48 <andythenorth> I'm not proposing individual field tiles that all have to be covered ;) 17:23:49 <Nat_aS> it's a cluster of tiles that stays put 17:23:58 <Nat_aS> oh 17:24:06 <Nat_aS> I was thinking they would work like houses 17:24:18 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:24:20 <Nat_aS> which get rebuilt 17:24:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.173.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24:34 <andythenorth> there would be something like a 2x2 building for 'grain silo' 17:24:42 <andythenorth> and 2x2 for 'milking parlour' 17:24:54 <andythenorth> and they would have output in the range of 100s of units 17:25:09 <Nat_aS> Hmm, so would the production be dependent on the fields, and the cargo be delivered from the silo? 17:25:28 <Nat_aS> and would fund new buildings also make more fields? 17:25:30 <andythenorth> no dependency on the fields 17:25:35 <Nat_aS> oh 17:25:40 <andythenorth> 'fields' are not really a thing 17:25:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.126] has joined #openttd 17:25:50 <Nat_aS> well you said fields would be like houses 17:26:25 <andythenorth> I missed the bit where I said that 17:26:35 <Nat_aS> that's how I understood it 17:26:36 <Nat_aS> :P 17:26:38 <andythenorth> frosch: remember the idea of plantable objects? 17:27:40 <frosch> i did not put the stuff on the wiki yet 17:27:42 <frosch> like so much :) 17:29:19 <Nat_aS> well I like the idea of industries being larger, not one huge building, but having several satilite buildings which can be destroyed and will be rebuilt 17:29:24 <Nat_aS> so they wont get in the way 17:29:27 <Nat_aS> and look pretty 17:29:37 <Nat_aS> also, things effecting production other than random numbers 17:29:49 <andythenorth> frosch: I've been thinking about farms incorrectly. 17:30:08 <andythenorth> A grain farm should be a small industry - grain silo - surrounded by lots of farmhouses planted as objects 17:30:18 <andythenorth> the grain silo production would be hundreds or thousands of tons 17:30:18 <Nat_aS> tropic lumber mills are a good idea, although in practice they just make huge square holes in the map you have to fix every year 17:31:13 <frosch> andythenorth: so you want to eliminate feeders, and make rv completely pointless? is that strategy somewhat related to bandit? i.e. not having to do it? :p 17:31:17 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 17:31:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:33:33 <Nat_aS> Herp 17:33:44 <Nat_aS> but HEQS is better for feeders 17:33:57 <Nat_aS> I want BANDIT for distributing goods and food to towns 17:33:59 <Nat_aS> :P 17:34:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:41 <Nat_aS> well anyways, I like the idea of farm decorations being objects with one small thing in the middle 17:34:47 <Nat_aS> I think it could apply to any industry 17:34:57 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:35:02 <Nat_aS> although it would be cool if the amount of objects determined the production 17:35:11 <Nat_aS> if you crowd out an industry, it wont produce as much 17:35:40 <Nat_aS> maybe as time goes on, the objects could be upgraded, allowing a visual representation of production increase. 17:37:13 <andythenorth> milk would still be picked up from individual farms 17:37:21 <andythenorth> livestock from a centralised cattle market 17:37:27 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: translators * r24304 /trunk/src/lang/ (czech.txt german.txt lithuanian.txt swedish.txt): 17:37:27 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:37:27 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: czech - 6 changes by RabbRubbish 17:37:27 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: german - 41 changes by Jogio, NG, planetmaker 17:37:27 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 1 changes by Stabilitronas 17:37:28 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: swedish - 9 changes by Joel_A 17:37:33 <andythenorth> fruit would be collected from a packhouse 17:37:38 <andythenorth> sugar beet / cane from farms 17:37:50 <andythenorth> plant fibres, from farms 17:37:57 <andythenorth> wool....from farms 17:38:14 <andythenorth> this would make farms more interesting I think 17:38:23 <andythenorth> maybe 17:38:25 <andythenorth> dunno 17:38:32 * andythenorth finds farms quite boring to play with 17:38:59 <andythenorth> basically iron ore + coal -> steel mill and wood -> sawmill are the only interesting industries :P 17:39:04 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:39:05 <andythenorth> everything else is kind of 'blearch' 17:39:43 <andythenorth> it doesn't help that farms are broken in FIRS 17:39:50 <Nat_aS> i like it when farms are clustered 17:39:55 <andythenorth> they're not currently 17:40:02 <Nat_aS> so I have an excuse to put a station at the town, and then feeders to the farms 17:40:08 <Nat_aS> using HEQS tractors 17:40:18 <Nat_aS> also, when mines are clustered up in mountians 17:40:25 <andythenorth> farms are silly 17:40:31 <Nat_aS> so I have HEQS trucks to haul ore down to the station 17:40:37 <Nat_aS> the only thing I don't have 17:40:47 <andythenorth> farms end up with so much transport infrastructure around them, it's insane 17:40:51 <Nat_aS> is a nice semi-truck to haul goods from the station to markets in town 17:40:53 <Nat_aS> :P 17:41:01 <andythenorth> farms end up surrounded by tracks and roads and canals 17:41:14 <andythenorth> a 1 tile station for dropping farm supplies 17:41:21 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 17:41:23 <andythenorth> then 1-10 tiles for each produced cargo 17:41:29 <andythenorth> plus waiting areas, loops, depots 17:41:32 <andythenorth> it's stupid :P 17:42:29 <Alberth> reduce production if the fields are used for laying tracks/roads :p 17:43:37 <Nat_aS> HEY 17:43:47 <Nat_aS> what if sawmills replanted the trees they cut down! 17:44:16 <Nat_aS> they would cut down trees and replace them with logging machinery and stump objects 17:44:24 <Nat_aS> and they would do it in sections 17:44:39 <Nat_aS> and then when one section is done, they would move on to the next sectin 17:44:44 <Nat_aS> and replant trees in the other 17:44:49 <andythenorth> who does that? Pikka? OpenGFX+ 17:44:51 <andythenorth> someone? 17:44:52 <Nat_aS> instead of just cutting a huge chunk out of the map 17:45:26 <andythenorth> one of the industry grfs has a tree cutting phase 17:45:30 <andythenorth> or maybe original forest 17:46:25 <andythenorth> is GS of any use yet? 17:46:35 <andythenorth> i.e. can I play it in single player, for an interesting game? 17:46:44 <Nat_aS> yes, but that's a single object 17:46:59 <Nat_aS> I like the fact that tropic mills are a small building that influences a large area 17:47:02 <Nat_aS> like your idea for farms 17:52:00 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.95.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:36 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:57:36 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 17:57:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:12:45 <frosch> hmm, i am configuring ais not often enough 18:13:02 <frosch> i have quite some difficulties using the gui on arabic 18:13:33 <Alberth> :) 18:13:48 <frosch> usually i have no problem with the rest of ottd :) 18:14:53 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:16:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:17:18 <Zuu> andythenorth: There ore two more developed GS that are useful in single player. 18:17:27 <Alberth> frosch: so it cannot be the difficulty of reading arabic ;) 18:17:34 <Zuu> CityDomination and Neighbours are important 18:18:24 <frosch> Alberth: looks like the average handwriting 18:18:50 <Alberth> I wish I had that nice handwriting :) 18:30:12 <Knogle> heh 18:42:40 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:45:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 18:54:37 *** Chris_Booth[ph] [~chrisboot@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 18:58:04 *** telanus1 [~Barney_Er@196-210-244-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [PING 1338491177] 19:06:31 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-68-173.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:08:05 <Nat_aS> [11:59] <Brot6> bandit: compile of r489 still failed (#3900) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r489 ;_; 19:11:03 <Terkhen> error: andy's muse not found 19:11:13 *** namad8 [aaaaa@pool-96-236-218-157.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:05 *** namad7 [aaaaa@pool-96-236-218-157.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:41 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 19:25:32 <Nat_aS> lol 19:26:38 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:29:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@91-66-34-49-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 19:35:18 *** NataS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 19:40:02 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 19:42:45 *** Nat_aS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:21 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:54:20 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:25:40 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:40:06 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: rubidium * r24305 /branches/1.2/ (8 files in 5 dirs): 20:40:06 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: [1.2] -Backport from trunk: 20:40:06 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: - Fix: [Script] ScriptTown::GetGrowthRate() returned wrong values after usage of SetGrowthRate() (r24302) 20:40:06 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: [1.2] -Update: documentation 20:46:05 <CIA-17> OpenTTD: rubidium * r24306 /tags/1.2.1/ (10 files in 4 dirs): -Release: 1.2.1 20:49:50 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:15 <Terkhen> good night 21:11:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@91-66-34-49-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:55 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.151.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:30 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0/20120528154913]] 21:30:27 <Rubidium> blathijs & heffer & Ammler: new release tarballs have arrived 21:30:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A77B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:37 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 21:33:23 <frosch> @topic set 1 1.2.1 21:33:23 *** DorpsGek changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.2.1 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, ever | English only 21:33:32 <frosch> that's the easy part :s 21:35:29 <Ammler> Rubidium: the download button at openttd.org still shows 1.2.0 21:35:48 <Rubidium> Ammler: I reckon that's some cache in the website 21:36:13 <Rubidium> the finger file is good, so the website should in the near future show the right thing 21:36:52 <Rubidium> like now 21:40:42 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 21:43:07 <frosch> the harder part is also done :) 21:43:24 <frosch> now comes the boring part 21:43:36 <glx> the news ? 21:43:45 <frosch> the news is the hard part 21:44:06 <frosch> the boring part is positing the same thingie on the forums to get the same boring replies by the same guys as everytime :p 21:45:55 <frosch> though i am always happy when my broweser autocompletes the thread topic, as if i am not posting anything else :ÃŒp 21:46:57 <frosch> i hope i win an awkward-ness price for the news though :) 21:47:37 <frosch> s/awkward/weird/ 21:47:53 <frosch> always confuse those 21:48:13 <frosch> since i know awk 21:59:54 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-113-159.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:00 <NataS> Hmm 22:02:11 <NataS> asside from horns and bells, Trains in OTTD are really quiet 22:02:17 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-053-217.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:21 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-053-217.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 22:02:22 <NataS> no Chugachughachuga sounds 22:02:37 <NataS> is it possible to add train running SFX? 22:02:56 <NataS> Idealy they would only play at the lower zoom levels 22:03:28 <frosch> try nars2 22:03:55 <NataS> is that a grf or a sound pack? 22:03:58 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:04:00 <frosch> a grf 22:09:42 <glx> UKRS has running sounds too 22:24:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:37:15 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:25 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:36 *** Adrian [~58982f0d@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 22:39:38 <frosch> night 22:39:40 <Adrian> I'm playing OpenTTD with the normal trainset. Sometime around ~1985 the rail passenger carriages disappear from the list (probably displaced by arrival of a new locomotive). Is this a known bug? 22:40:06 <Adrian> i.e. i can't build passenger cars anymore, nor clone existing trains. 22:40:20 *** frosch [~frosch@frnk-4d00859d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:46 *** Hazzard [~72f662e4@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:02:13 <NataS> do you have any other grfs on? 23:02:22 <NataS> and have you removed grfs from the game in progress? 23:02:28 <NataS> because that has been known to cause that. 23:03:53 <Adrian> yes, i have 2 more sets. av8 aircraft and different bridges. i guess that answers my question. bummer, i don't feel like starting over. gotta hope the later rail systems give me back passenger cars. 23:06:12 <NataS> well unless you removed trainsets at one point, it usualy wont cause a problem 23:06:40 <NataS> but removing newgrfs from games in progress can corrupt a game in ways that might not immediately be obvious. 23:06:54 <NataS> things go fine for a while, then cars start droping off the list 23:07:34 <Adrian> i see. thanks. 23:14:50 *** Adrian [~58982f0d@webuser.thegrebs.com] has quit [Quit: TheGrebs.com CGI:IRC] 23:25:33 *** Hazzard [~72f662e4@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:39 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:57:30 *** Hazzard_ [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:58:44 *** Hazzard [~7c418246@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]