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00:00:07 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.137.207] has joined #openttd 00:14:08 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:59 <Supercheese> What foolishness is this, Visual C++ Express wants me to register to continue using 00:18:07 <Supercheese> yeah right, like THAT's gonna happen 00:27:29 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35:16 *** fjb is now known as Guest7117 00:35:17 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE599.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:39:36 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 00:42:23 *** Guest7117 [~frank@p5794113C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:45:45 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:46:37 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 00:48:04 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 00:49:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:51:23 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 00:53:20 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE599.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:25 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@d66-183-119-229.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 01:00:56 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE599.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:01:17 <Kylie> this ai is being problematic 01:01:34 <Kylie> it made a coal to power plant trip with trucks 01:01:39 <Kylie> but 01:02:01 <Kylie> the peak capacity was such that it would require almost 70 trucks to even satisfy it 01:02:42 <Kylie> plus lots more with the relative distance 01:02:53 <Kylie> (what, 10 more? i'm not sure) 01:04:53 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-119-229.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:05 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 01:05:09 <Kylie> 60 tiles at a max speed of 112 km/h 01:06:41 <Eddi|zuHause> the equation <num vehicles>*<vehicle capacity>*<roundtrip time (ticks)> = <production per cycle>/256 must be satisfied 01:07:50 <Eddi|zuHause> err, one of the * must be a / 01:07:55 <Kylie> I doubt this AI is doing that really 01:08:18 <Kylie> how do i calculate the <prod per cycle> 01:08:46 <Eddi|zuHause> an industry does 8 or 9 cycles per month 01:09:47 <Eddi|zuHause> for default industries, the lowest is 4 per cycle, so minimum of 32/36 production 01:10:06 <Kylie> that sounds like a small number 01:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause> it is 01:12:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the highest is 255 per cycle for primary industries 01:12:34 <Eddi|zuHause> which is 2000something 01:12:38 <Eddi|zuHause> per month 01:15:56 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, 2 (roundtrip) times 60 tiles times 16 steps per tile times 256 substeps divided by 112 speed 01:16:09 <Eddi|zuHause> @ 2*60*16*256/112 01:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2*60*16*256/112 01:16:14 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 4388.57142857 01:16:20 <Kylie> oh fuck 01:16:51 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2*60*16/112 01:16:51 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 17.1428571429 01:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause> means the vehicle capacity must be 17 times the production per cycle 01:17:49 <Kylie> oh my god 01:17:58 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE599.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:15 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause> so if the mine produces 128/144 per month, that makes 16 per cycle 01:19:45 <Eddi|zuHause> if your vehicle carries 20t 01:19:50 <Eddi|zuHause> then you need 01:19:58 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 16*17/20 01:19:58 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 13.6 01:20:03 <Eddi|zuHause> 14 trucks 01:20:14 <Kylie> this ai needs to use trains 01:20:15 <Eddi|zuHause> plus a bit for loading time 01:20:29 <Eddi|zuHause> and acceleration 01:20:49 <Eddi|zuHause> which we did not consider in the round trip calculation 01:22:31 <Kylie> thx for the math 01:24:37 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:11da:43ef:b97:6899] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:28:35 * Kylie earns > mil 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[~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:54:12 <Wolf01> monrining o/ 07:58:33 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 07:58:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:00:42 <Wolf01> moin Alberth :) 08:00:55 <Alberth> moin 08:01:27 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 08:01:55 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:01:55 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 08:14:54 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 08:33:55 <Knogle> morning 08:38:11 *** Guest7146 is now known as planetmaker 08:42:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6C73.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:46:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.190.208] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:56:03 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined 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<planetmaker> quite so 10:47:46 *** TrueBrain [~patric@ip82-139-83-21.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:47:56 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> resistance.oftc.net quits: tparker, Markavian`, Nat_aS, Eddi|zuHause, @Belugas, MNIM, guru3_, kais58, dihedral, blathijs, (+22 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 10:48:19 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 10:50:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: @orudge, XeryusTC, Hyronymus, GoneWacko, welshdragon, EyeMWing, Markavian`, @Alberth, valhallasw, Devroush (+22 more) 10:51:10 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:51:29 <SpComb> fun links there 10:52:00 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> magnet.oftc.net quits: bb10X, Guest6620, Wolf01, keoz, Vadtec, namad7, @peter1138, dfox, masch, Fawksie, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 10:52:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 10:52:04 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 10:55:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: keoz, Wolf01, dfox, George, Guest6620, namad7, bb10X, @peter1138, TinoDidriksen, Vadtec (+2 more) 10:56:02 <SpComb> endgame: lawyers win 10:56:02 <SpComb> and even if the patent trolls lose, the lawyers win 10:56:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 10:58:33 <fjb> At least one tenth of the German population are lawyers. 11:01:37 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:15:42 *** yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:17:47 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:47 *** TrueBrain [~patric@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:19 <__ln__> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4539 an OS X improvement only waiting to be committed 11:18:51 *** TrueBrain [~patric@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:58 *** fjb [~frank@93.223.216.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:29:28 <planetmaker> I guess we should close the task then 11:31:44 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:52 <__ln__> without committing? 11:32:14 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 11:32:23 <planetmaker> I didn't say that 11:33:39 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-154-069.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 11:36:34 *** Lassikki [54faab7f@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:38:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r24525 /trunk/os/macosx/openttd.icns: -Add [FS#4539]: [OSX] Additional high-resolution icons for the app bundle (Zydeco) 11:39:43 <Rubidium> so... when are you going to add 2048x2048 icons? 11:40:29 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 11:40:58 <planetmaker> next year 11:41:13 <Rubidium> well, first fix the real issues 11:41:20 <planetmaker> yeah 11:41:53 <Rubidium> 'look, OS X 10.10 supports OpenTTD as it has 4096x4096 pixel 64 bits per channel icons' 11:42:09 <Rubidium> while not even working right on 10.6 11:42:39 *** Simonn [Simon@27.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 11:42:48 <Simonn> Can I build bridges with railroad tracks over houses 11:42:49 <Simonn> and stuff? 11:43:07 <Simonn> like if I want to build a maglev station in the middle of a city, could I do that? 11:43:19 <Rubidium> a few cases of dynamite 11:43:23 <planetmaker> houses cannot have bridges above them 11:43:30 <Simonn> what about under? 11:43:34 <planetmaker> they can have tunnels below them 11:43:51 <Simonn> can I choose to make my meglav railroad tracks elevated? 11:44:03 <Simonn> like is there a button so I can higher/lower my track? that would be neat 11:44:49 <planetmaker> lowering an exisiting track without first removing, then lowering land, then re-building track? Quite unrealistic ;-) 11:45:05 <Beardie> what your asking makes me think of Locomotion rather than OpenTTD 11:45:32 <Simonn> can I make double deck tracks? 11:45:36 <Simonn> like in new york city central station 11:46:11 <Simonn> what about underground stations? 11:46:53 <Hirundo> nope, and nope 11:47:31 <Simonn> man 11:47:40 <Simonn> how am I supposed to get a decent transportation system in my supermegacool city 11:47:46 <Simonn> when all I Can do it put a railroad on the side? 11:47:53 <Simonn> what do you people normally do? 11:48:38 <planetmaker> I build a track system with many tunnels. And I use loads of trams and bus 11:48:57 <Rubidium> make the huge HEQS tram support loads of passengers ;) 11:49:01 <Beardie> tunnels with stations one level lower etc 11:49:16 <Lassikki> Does anyone know where can i get gertrams.grf? 11:49:22 <Beardie> or be really mean and provide them with a inadequate bus system 11:49:28 <Simonn> [13:49] <Beardie> tunnels with stations one level lower etc 11:49:34 <Alberth> Lassikki: google? 11:49:43 <Lassikki> Cant find 11:49:45 <Simonn> underground station 11:49:46 <Simonn> ? 11:49:47 <Simonn> you mean? 11:49:50 <Beardie> one sec Simmonn i can find a screenshot 11:50:03 <Simonn> yeah gimme some design tips 11:50:15 <Simonn> I just discovered that you can choose city size in the settings 11:50:24 <Simonn> so I generated myself a map full of megacities 11:50:36 <Simonn> I mean I live in brussels and it has a north, central and south station in the middle of the city 11:50:43 <Simonn> the tracks go underground and brussels central is completely underground 11:50:58 <Alberth> Simonn: just lower the station one level compared to the houses, so your tunnel connects straight to the station platforms 11:51:34 <Simonn> soo you are saying 11:51:51 <Simonn> destroy some houses in the middle of the city 11:51:54 <Simonn> then lower the land -1 11:51:58 <Simonn> and build your station there 11:52:24 <Beardie> This topci may help you Simonn http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=55388 11:52:31 <Rubidium> http://media.openttd.org/images/screens/0.4.7/arctic_scenery.png <- ooh... photoshop ;) 11:52:35 <Rubidium> who remembers that one? 11:53:09 <Alberth> Rubidium: never seen it before :) 11:53:18 <planetmaker> that is photoshopped? 11:53:23 <Rubidium> yes 11:53:41 <planetmaker> hm, yes. The railroads on the edges, right? 11:53:57 <Rubidium> no 11:54:00 <Rubidium> keep guessing 11:54:03 <Beardie> that ramp at the back 11:54:09 <Beardie> double track up the hill 11:54:11 <Beardie> left track 11:54:19 <Rubidium> no 11:54:20 <Beardie> land not high enough for that really? 11:54:24 <Beardie> humm lol 11:54:50 <Rubidium> see the two trains departing towards the west? 11:55:09 <Rubidium> they would have been within the same signal block 11:55:22 <Beardie> lol 11:55:27 <Rubidium> however, the signals are block signals 11:55:36 <Rubidium> well... they were PBS signals 11:56:05 <Rubidium> from the brief time OpenTTD had (very) broken PBS signals before the last incarnation 11:56:08 *** Lassikki [54faab7f@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 11:56:28 <planetmaker> so... not photoshopped or didn't that allow two trains in one block? 11:56:56 <FLHerne> Does adding housesets ingame cause breakage? ;-) 11:56:58 <Rubidium> since PBS wasn't in a release, the signals were photoshopped to be of a type that was in the release 11:57:18 <planetmaker> ah 11:57:24 <FLHerne> Also, is it safe to remove vehicle sets if no vehicles provided by that set exist? 11:58:00 <planetmaker> FLHerne, both questions can be answered with 'yes'. 11:58:16 <Rubidium> planetmaker: really? 11:58:29 <planetmaker> FLHerne, also with 'probably not' and 'very much depends' 11:59:00 <planetmaker> and actually... my first statement must have been "'yes' and 'no' respectively" 11:59:21 <FLHerne> EDIT: Is it safe to remove vehicle sets (that don't modify other vehicle sets) if no vehicles provided by it exist 11:59:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:59:38 <Simonn> can I disable the local authoritys? 11:59:45 <planetmaker> Simonn, you can't 11:59:50 <Simonn> or make them super insensitive? 11:59:54 <planetmaker> try to disable your local major. 12:00:29 <FLHerne> Simonn: Difficulty settings (I think) has a setting, doesn't make very much difference :-( 12:00:40 <planetmaker> FLHerne, vehicle sets usually define things other than vehicles, like base costs etc. 12:00:48 <planetmaker> they will persist 12:01:08 <Simonn> it's already on permissive 12:01:08 <Simonn> :( 12:01:16 <Simonn> but I want to destroy some blocks in the middle but it'll always be impossible 12:01:20 <Simonn> they won't let me do my masterplan 12:01:22 <Simonn> I need SPACE man 12:01:35 <FLHerne> So what happens if I remove a set that modified base costs, then add another that also does? Errors? :P 12:01:47 <FLHerne> Simonn: Bribe them ;-) 12:02:01 <Simonn> how 12:02:03 <Simonn> can't find a buttn 12:02:04 <Simonn> button 12:02:13 <Simonn> I already looked for this ;x 12:02:59 <FLHerne> In the list of things to do with the local authority 12:03:12 <Rubidium> ... but only when you have an adequate amount of money 12:03:29 <Simonn> how much do they normally want? 12:03:33 <Rubidium> ... which, now I think about it might not be the best design wise 12:03:50 <Simonn> And does bribing give me full access? or just some more "permissive" till they revoke it again? 12:03:52 <Rubidium> Simonn: depends on the amount of inflation and the size of the town (IIRC) 12:05:12 <FLHerne> Simonn: Just 'more permissive' :P 12:05:27 <Simonn> pfft 12:05:28 <Simonn> that suxx 12:05:34 <FLHerne> Same as building a million trees, except the map doesn't end up full of trees :D 12:05:43 <FLHerne> *not literally a million :P 12:05:43 <Simonn> how can I properly put in a railroad system if they won't let me 12:05:45 <Simonn> amagad 12:05:50 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-47-177.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:06:03 <Simonn> wait what if I pause the game 12:06:05 <Simonn> and then build? 12:06:09 <FLHerne> Simonn: Trams, and interchange with rail on the outskirts :P 12:06:19 <Simonn> will the town permissions update instantly? 12:06:23 <Simonn> or just after the pause? 12:06:29 <Simonn> FLHerne: I wanna do it with megalev 12:06:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-47-177.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [] 12:07:12 <Simonn> yeah maybe I should do the trams 12:08:07 <FLHerne> Simonn: The cargodist patch makes that work a lot better ;-) 12:08:08 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-47-177.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:08:22 <Simonn> wait I don't have trams in my menu 12:08:22 <Simonn> lol 12:08:35 <planetmaker> yes. they're only available as add-on 12:08:42 <FLHerne> Simonn: You might need a tram-supplying newgrf :P 12:09:06 <FLHerne> Adding vehicle newgrfs in-game is (relatively) safe, right? 12:09:48 <Simonn> Are tramways good for big cities? 12:09:52 <Simonn> 40.000 inhabitants? 12:09:57 <Simonn> and then go monorail on the edges? 12:10:03 <Simonn> is it an upgrade from buses? 12:10:36 <planetmaker> FLHerne, also that cannot be confirmed in a lot of cases. Just look at pikka's defaults 12:14:25 <FLHerne> planetmaker: Pff :-( 12:14:46 * FLHerne wants a way to use combinations of town-name grfs :P 12:14:58 <FLHerne> Ideally in clusters :-) 12:17:32 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/developers/yexo/regions.hg/ anyone, FLHerne ? :D 12:21:30 <Simonn> FLHerne 12:21:31 <Simonn> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=32441 12:21:33 <Simonn> is this good? 12:23:37 <FLHerne> planetmaker: That looks neat :-) 12:24:30 <NGC3982> I wish i understood that page. 12:24:43 <NGC3982> Is regions.hg some kind of NewGRF? 12:25:24 <FLHerne> NGC3982: Looks like a patch queue :P 12:25:43 <Alberth> NGC3982: only the "description" line is interesting :) 12:30:39 <NGC3982> Oh. 12:30:56 <NGC3982> What regions are we talking about? Specific regions of a current map? 12:30:56 <planetmaker> FLHerne, it's a modified openttd 12:44:17 <FLHerne> planetmaker: Ah. Branch thing? I use svn more :P 12:48:00 <NGC3982> You guys work a lot with licenses. 12:48:14 <NGC3982> I wish to torrent my collection of public domain movies 12:48:40 <planetmaker> call it branch if you want, FLHerne :-) it's a separate repo. A fork. A patch queue. A simple, modified clone de-facto 12:48:43 <planetmaker> all very similar 12:48:44 <NGC3982> And i wonder, the material is public domain, but surely - the company that released the new DVD with the public domain material must hold a normal copyright on the specific DVD? 12:55:45 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 12:57:51 <FLHerne> planetmaker: Patch-organising terminology isn't my strong point :P 12:59:30 <planetmaker> FLHerne, it's not a patch either really. It's a complete repository. Independent of everything. You make a checkout and have all you need 12:59:36 <planetmaker> svn is... so yesterday ;-) 13:00:01 * NGC3982 solved it. 13:02:12 <FLHerne> planetmaker: Well, thing-you-can-use-to-make-a-patch terminology then :P 13:02:47 * FLHerne really should spend more time learning how to use version control thingies 13:17:39 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 13:32:19 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 13:46:49 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.10.233] has joined #openttd 13:46:56 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:50:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:30 <NGC3982> guys 14:04:43 <NGC3982> Oops. 14:05:26 *** Snail [~snail@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:06:30 <Simonn> damnit 14:06:34 <Simonn> I am patiently trying to build something 14:06:41 <Simonn> but the authorities won't allow me to do it 14:06:47 <Simonn> and when I try to build up a reputation, destroy some pieces 14:06:50 <Simonn> they arej ust rebuilded 14:06:50 <Simonn> :/ 14:07:03 <NGC3982> Im trying to find a NewGRF that allows me to haul industry cargo in >1000km/h 14:08:20 <Pinkbeast> Simon: Buy each piece of land after demolition 14:08:28 <Simonn> how do you do that 14:09:35 <Pinkbeast> There's a tool looking like a signpost for buying land 14:10:12 <Pinkbeast> It's between "demolish" and "tree" on the landscaping toolbar 14:10:24 <Pinkbeast> NGC: some aircraft are >1,000 km/h 14:10:47 <NGC3982> Yes, i know. But let me emphase: Trains. 14:10:47 <NGC3982> :P 14:11:14 <Pinkbeast> Well, you didn't say that. :-) Do the logic trains carry cargo? 14:12:13 <Pinkbeast> I can't think of any serious railway newgrf that gets to those speeds. Not saying they don't exist, but... 14:13:03 <Pinkbeast> Google says the 2cc Chimaera is 1,005 km/h 14:15:06 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:16:59 <NGC3982> I can't get the logic trains to haul anything :( 14:17:17 <planetmaker> wrong trainset to be combined with? 14:17:40 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFD58C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:08 <fjb> Moin 14:18:27 <Kylie> Why doe my town rating seem to be appalling forever 14:19:03 <Pinkbeast> NGC: I find the logic train doesn't. There are some vactube / maglev sets, but most of the sane ones only let you do pax/mail/goods 14:19:35 <Pinkbeast> Appalling's a big range and if you killed too many trees it can be appalling for a long time. I dislike town ratings. 14:21:01 <fjb> Plant trees. 14:21:19 <Pinkbeast> I tend to start with a tramline in every town so I don't have the frustrating situation of "rating too low to build stations, cannot raise rating with good stations" 14:21:45 <fjb> And well served stations raise the rating fast. 14:22:22 <Pinkbeast> Hence the tramline. :-) 14:23:26 <Pinkbeast> Planting trees is all very well for a short fix but then every time you build anything near the town... ratings crash. 14:24:13 <fjb> Serve the town and the town serves you. 14:25:53 *** mkv` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:28:51 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:32:06 <Kylie> so uh 14:32:14 <Kylie> what was done re subsidiaries 14:32:14 <Kylie> ? 14:32:39 *** TrueBrain [~patric@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 14:32:42 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 14:33:31 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 14:33:33 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:12 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:47:35 <planetmaker> exactly nothing, Kylie 14:51:04 <Alberth> not for a long time, at least 14:56:35 *** Snail [~snail@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 14:56:36 *** Snail_ is now known as Snail 14:59:09 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:09 *** BtbN [~btbn@btbn.de] has joined #openttd 14:59:52 <Simonn> if an authority is mad 14:59:57 <Simonn> but you haven't build anythign there 15:00:04 <Simonn> so you can't transport people so they are impressed 15:00:11 <Simonn> how do you gain reputation then? 15:00:50 <BtbN> plant some trees 15:01:29 <Simonn> ok tnx 15:04:18 <Alberth> wait 15:04:30 <Alberth> but usually it takes a long itme 15:04:33 <Alberth> *time 15:05:42 <fjb> Or do some real world like thing: bribe it. 15:06:51 <Alberth> or if you are a country: invade it as preventive strike :p 15:08:16 <fjb> Claim they had weapons of mass destruction before hand. 15:15:07 <BtbN> When installing NewGRFs via console, how am i supposed to see a list, so i can find out which ID i need? 15:18:52 <Simonn> why can't I build a train station and add an airport to it 15:18:56 <Simonn> it says station too spread out 15:18:59 <Simonn> what can I do about this 15:19:34 <planetmaker> allow larger stations in the advanced settings 15:20:14 <Simonn> thanks 15:23:09 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 15:25:20 <Simonn> is there an easy way to copy orders from one vehicle in a station 15:25:25 <Simonn> to all other vehicles in the station 15:25:29 <Simonn> I mean depot* 15:29:48 <Alberth> Simonn: you can copy orders from another vehicle 15:30:02 <Alberth> or copy it while building a clone 15:30:17 <planetmaker> goto + click on other vehicle 15:30:41 <planetmaker> or even better: goto + strg + click on other vehicle to ensure those two always have the same 15:30:53 <Alberth> hmm, RE is really much faster :p 15:31:27 <Alberth> My NML scanner needs 120 seconds for the regression test, while standard PLY lex uses less than 40 :p 15:31:59 <planetmaker> hu? Rewriting the lexer? 15:32:28 <Alberth> I want to process #include etc lines 15:33:25 <planetmaker> ah, nice :-) 15:33:45 <Alberth> well, at this speed, not nice at all :( 15:36:02 <planetmaker> hm, well :-) 15:46:40 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:35 <BtbN> nice... updating content list fails, as the server has an ipv6 address, but does does not respond on it... 15:53:33 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 16:11:44 <planetmaker> which server? content.openttd.org? 16:11:54 <planetmaker> or one of the mirrors? 16:20:48 *** KnogleAFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:20:48 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21:49 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.137.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:48 *** KnogleAFK is now known as Knogle 16:26:17 <peter1138> planetmaker, I guess you'll never know... 16:26:57 <planetmaker> well. More his than my problem, I guess... 16:27:37 <BtbN> planetmaker: dbg: [net] Connecting to [content.openttd.org]:3978 (IPv6) 16:28:37 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 16:28:46 <BtbN> and after a while: dbg: [net] [tcp] could not connect IPv6 socket: Connection timed out 16:28:53 <BtbN> connecting to the server via Ipv4 works just fine 16:29:44 <planetmaker> hm.... TrueBrain ^ should have a look possibly 16:37:43 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:40:30 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 16:51:04 <BtbN> I can't get NewGRFs to work on my server... i copied them to the same location, and use the same config. But they just don't get enabled. 17:00:47 <TrueBrain> why isnt my tab complete working? :( 17:00:57 <TrueBrain> tab isnt working ... fucking VNC 17:01:23 <TrueBrain> anyway, planetmaker (I have to type it now! :(), it is a known bug yes 17:01:31 <TrueBrain> all configuration seems fine, yet it doesnt work 17:01:37 <TrueBrain> a typical case of: *shrug* 17:02:31 <Kylie> shrug = idk ? 17:03:18 <TrueBrain> shrug is the motion of raising both your shoulders, which is a sign of unknowing or not caring (depending on the situation presented) 17:03:37 <Alberth> BtbN: enabled? 17:03:48 <TrueBrain> For more details, please open up any browse, go to wikipedia, and look up the word 'shrug' 17:03:55 <TrueBrain> it has an excellent image that comes with it 17:04:01 <BtbN> Alberth: ? 17:04:13 <Alberth> you stop the server before copying the config in-place, right? 17:04:29 <BtbN> i just start it after modifing it sure 17:04:36 <BtbN> but it just removes them ouf 17:04:39 <BtbN> *out of the cfg 17:06:50 <BtbN> hm, putting an absolute path there seems to work 17:07:15 <BtbN> but the plugin seems to be broken. Installed OpenGFX+ Trains and Road Vehicles 17:07:23 <BtbN> and can't build any trains now, and don't have a bus 17:09:41 <Alberth> ./openttd -d grf=<number> dumps debug info for newgrfs. number goes up to 9, but 2 may be enough 17:11:17 <BtbN> no idea what's wrong now, there just are no trains 17:11:19 <BtbN> and no busses 17:11:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:12:33 <Alberth> wrong year? 17:12:45 <BtbN> no idea if they need any special starting year 17:13:07 <Alberth> opengfx+ start around 1950 17:13:21 <BtbN> i did not modifiy the default 1950 17:16:00 <BtbN> There's a lot of GetGroupFromGroupID(0xEA:0x89): Groupid 0x0000 does not exist, leaving empty 17:18:21 <Alberth> 0x00 does not exist sounds quite fundamental :) 17:18:34 <Alberth> openttd version is 1.2 or newer? 17:18:43 <BtbN> current stable 17:19:05 <Alberth> weird 17:20:23 <BtbN> i can't figure out how to download them via the command line 17:20:30 <BtbN> and the broken IPv6 server makes it even harder 17:21:16 <Alberth> newgrfs are active in the game? 17:21:21 <BtbN> yes 17:21:43 <BtbN> trains were there before 17:21:54 <Alberth> I regularly play with opengfx+, and never have problems 17:22:06 <Alberth> oh, did you change newgrfs in a game? 17:22:41 <Alberth> or do you start a new game? 17:22:43 <BtbN> sure, i needed several trys to make the server find them 17:23:09 <BtbN> and the content commands need a running game 17:23:31 <__ln__> *tries 17:23:42 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:27 <BtbN> Alberth: do you start in 1950 when playing with ogfx+? 17:24:41 <Alberth> 1948 or so 17:24:51 <BtbN> nope, when i do so, no trains, no busses 17:24:51 <Alberth> but 1950 should work 17:25:03 <BtbN> i don't get it 17:25:33 <Alberth> I don't get your error output, so something else is wrong, I think 17:25:50 <BtbN> there is a lot of spam when I enable grf debugging 17:25:58 <BtbN> can't scroll up far enough to see it all 17:26:11 <BtbN> and i'm not sure if my way of installing it is ok 17:26:19 <BtbN> and as the automated download is broken... 17:26:40 <Terkhen> try a game without newgrfs and check if you have vehicles 17:26:48 <BtbN> i did, and there are... 17:26:48 <Terkhen> ogfx+ should not affect vehicle availability at all 17:26:55 <Terkhen> check the parameters then 17:27:00 <Terkhen> maybe you disabled all vehicle types 17:27:01 <BtbN> no parameters. 17:27:10 <Terkhen> what does "no parameters" mean? 17:27:20 <BtbN> i have not given any parameters to ogfx+ 17:27:48 <Terkhen> but did you check the parameter window to make sure? 17:27:58 <BtbN> there is no parameter window, it's a serve.r 17:27:59 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1709/ md5 checksums 17:28:43 <BtbN> i got zip files oO 17:29:00 <Alberth> that's not going to work 17:29:19 <Alberth> either unpack to a directory, or re-pack into tar :) 17:29:44 <Terkhen> BtbN: given how parameters are implemented in ogfx+, no parameters appearing in openttd.cfg for that NewGRF could mean anything :P 17:29:52 <Terkhen> all 0 could even mean "no vehicles at all" 17:30:04 <BtbN> Terkhen: how do i find out which parameters to give? 17:30:46 <Terkhen> prepare them in a client with a GUI, copy the cfg part of that newgrf 17:31:06 <Terkhen> the simplest way to prepare savegames for a server is to just create them on a client and upload, btw 17:32:19 <BtbN> savegames embedd all grfs? 17:32:28 <BtbN> ccabc366f7eac60c7438a5726820172a ogfx-rv.grf /// 4e0b2d42462f295f36afba90d239a323 ogfx-trains.grf 17:33:57 <Alberth> no 17:34:12 <Alberth> they keep references to them 17:34:19 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:32 <BtbN> so i still need to make the server find them 17:35:26 <Terkhen> yup 17:36:51 <BtbN> ok, putting the .grf files to ~/.openttd/newgrf, and not to downloaded_content/newgrf seems to make relative paths work 17:36:55 <BtbN> parameters are also ok 17:40:08 <BtbN> ok, parameters seem to fix it 17:41:16 <BtbN> now it's just the map generator which is gone mad. I set it to generate a landscape as much land as possible. And i still get a lot of big lakes 17:43:02 <BtbN> wtf... if i generate the same map(same settings, same seed) on my local PC, it comes out as i expected it 17:44:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:33 <Alberth> different generator? 17:44:39 <BtbN> exact same config 17:45:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24526 /trunk/src/lang/latvian.txt: 17:45:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 2 changes by Parastais 17:45:38 <Terkhen> if you don't use the same seed for map generation you can't be sure 17:48:16 <BtbN> Terkhen: the seed is in the config, or does it ignore it? 17:49:14 * fjb likes lakes. 17:49:47 *** keoz [~keikoz@142.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 17:57:28 <Simonn> if stations are a little apart 17:57:32 <Simonn> and you want to make them "one station" 17:57:35 <Simonn> is there any way to link em? 17:57:41 <Simonn> or do they have to be like sticking to eachother 17:57:46 <BtbN> Strg while placing 17:57:51 <Simonn> strg? 17:57:54 <BtbN> Ctrl 17:58:02 <Simonn> okay 17:58:03 <Simonn> thanks 17:58:15 <BtbN> Always forget that it's not Strg on non-german keyboards. 17:59:17 <planetmaker> best joke is, if German people call it the "string-taste" - totally ignoring that it's called control in English ;-) 17:59:18 <SpComb> Steurung! 18:00:14 * planetmaker donates an "e" to SpComb 18:00:35 <__ln__> SpComb: SteuererklÀrung! 18:01:15 <SpComb> Steuerung? 18:01:44 <planetmaker> ^ 18:01:53 <SpComb> Das Steuerung muà sein! 18:02:05 <planetmaker> *Die ;-) 18:02:06 <__ln__> what, who has been mistyping on my keyboard 18:02:53 <SpComb> Mit die Steuerung 18:03:26 <__ln__> SpComb: mit + dativ, no? 18:03:31 <planetmaker> :D Mit der... ;-) 18:03:37 <planetmaker> casus cactus 18:05:53 <__ln__> SpComb: words ending with -ung are always feminine, iirc. 18:06:01 <Terkhen> BtbN: the seed is randomly generated unless you specifically select one 18:06:04 <Terkhen> bbl 18:11:04 <SpComb> just trolling with them silly Germans' grammars 18:11:59 <Supercheese> Hey Simonn, if you're still there, there are now Subways in OTTD 18:12:10 <Simonn> there are? 18:12:13 <Supercheese> but they're rather hack-ish and have some issues; nonetheless they function 18:12:21 <Supercheese> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=62672&view=unread#p1046538 18:12:21 <Simonn> hmmmmmmm i'd rather wait a lil then 18:12:24 <Simonn> if they are unstable 18:12:24 <Simonn> :p 18:12:25 <__ln__> Supercheese: the fast food chain? 18:12:47 <Simonn> Supercheese 18:12:51 <Simonn> can I use them if I already got a map? 18:12:57 <Supercheese> technically, yes 18:13:05 <Supercheese> it's recommended to start a new game though 18:13:16 <Simonn> hmm 18:13:24 <Simonn> but I just got a good thing going here :( 18:13:34 <Supercheese> and for sure if you want to put them in your existing game, make a backup save before trying 18:13:38 <Supercheese> in case things go wrong 18:14:26 <Supercheese> Honestly, when adding a vehicle set I forgot to put in the game at start, I have yet to find any issues 18:14:29 <Supercheese> but YMMV 18:15:03 <Simonn> If caught on a level crossing and a train contacts the subway, it will result in a crash, like with any other RV impacted on a level crossing. 18:15:07 <Simonn> what does this mean exactly 18:15:41 <Supercheese> If you've got a level crossing, and the subway is sitting "on" it, and a superfast train comes through the crossing before the subway can get across 18:15:46 <Supercheese> the subway will be destroyed 18:15:47 <SpComb> vehicle crash, I'm assuming, not OpenTTD crash? :) 18:15:54 <Supercheese> as if it were a surface vehicle being hit by a train on a crossing 18:16:05 <Simonn> I don't understand 18:16:06 <Simonn> if I got an X 18:16:10 <Simonn> subway going under a train station 18:16:16 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 18:16:17 <Simonn> and a train comes while the subway is crossing under the train 18:16:19 <Simonn> the subway gets hit? 18:16:23 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:25 <Supercheese> no 18:16:34 <SpComb> they're just road vehicles 18:16:36 <SpComb> fake1 18:16:38 <Supercheese> "level crossing" meaning a road with a train track running over/through it 18:16:41 <SpComb> *!11 18:17:02 <Supercheese> Perhaps I should've added a screenshot to demonstrate 18:17:08 <Supercheese> although I've hit the attachment limit... 18:17:33 <Simonn> train track 18:17:40 <Simonn> I also have trams 18:17:46 <Simonn> they can't go with trams I assume? 18:18:01 <Supercheese> they can go with trams, they just can't go "under" them 18:18:11 <Simonn> so they'll be stuck in traffic along with them? 18:18:12 <Supercheese> if there's a tram and a subway is following, it cannot go faster than the tram 18:18:14 <Supercheese> yes 18:18:18 <Supercheese> that's one of the limitations 18:18:21 <Simonn> hmmmmm 18:18:26 <Simonn> maybe it's still interesting 18:18:31 <Simonn> so the "load" gets off the stations? 18:18:35 <Simonn> of the trams? 18:18:43 <Supercheese> the subway can be *passed* by other non-articulated RVs/trams 18:18:48 <Supercheese> but it cannot pass 18:18:56 <Supercheese> err, not trams, lol 18:18:58 <Supercheese> those can't pass 18:19:02 <Simonn> :( 18:19:19 <Supercheese> only non articulated RVs can pass, I think 18:19:52 <Supercheese> Anyway: http://wiki.openttd.org/Road_vehicles#Accidents 18:20:04 <Supercheese> that applies to the "subways" since they're technically road vehicles 18:20:13 <Supercheese> I'mma add that to thread 18:21:14 <Simonn> wait I didn't see your name on the thread 18:21:16 <Simonn> this is your work? 18:21:20 <Supercheese> yeah 18:21:27 <Simonn> nice 18:21:30 <Supercheese> thanks 18:21:31 <Simonn> ALL FO ME??? <33333 18:21:54 <Supercheese> As with most GRFs, I'd wager, I primarily did it because *I* wanted it in OTTD 18:22:02 <Supercheese> but naturally wanted to share it too 18:22:48 <planetmaker> :-) 18:24:00 <Supercheese> Oh man, I cannot decipher what SkiddLow means by "I Sure Create the London Undergorund 2009 Stock now Inuse for Graphic, thanks." 18:24:13 <Supercheese> Is he gonna try and contribute sprites? 18:24:55 <planetmaker> sounds like 18:25:20 * Supercheese wonders about the 2CC set subway sprites 18:25:26 <Supercheese> those are GPLed too 18:25:37 <planetmaker> his English is an adventure game into finding the borders of being understood. But he works for his dreams 18:27:04 <Supercheese> Is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset an up to date repository? 18:27:15 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:27:22 <Supercheese> last revision in January, looks like 18:27:53 <planetmaker> sounds about right. Kinda abandoned 18:28:25 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:28:31 <Supercheese> now to decipher their .png naming conventions 18:30:45 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 18:32:39 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:44:14 <planetmaker> doesn't each vehicle have its own file in the 2ccTS, Supercheese ? 18:44:29 <Supercheese> it does, but their names aren't necessarily obvious 18:44:40 <Supercheese> not too difficult though 18:44:54 <planetmaker> hm, I thought they gave them the name of the engine(s) :-) 18:45:21 <Supercheese> I can't find the U-Bahn via ctrl+F, for instance 18:45:30 <Supercheese> visual inspection required 18:52:59 <planetmaker> there's no single vehicle called "u-bahn" afaik 18:53:14 <Supercheese> U-Bahn C II or some such 18:53:30 <Supercheese> Only U-bahn I see 18:59:01 <planetmaker> indeed... it's a PITA 18:59:05 *** Mizera [~Miranda@84.95.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:02:17 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-105-47.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:02:24 *** M1zera [~Miranda@84.95.broadband5.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:02 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@85.210.75.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:30 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:47 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 19:14:53 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:12 <NGC3982> A pita bread? 19:26:08 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e138:65aa:8007:a5dd] has joined #openttd 19:26:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:30:13 *** Pinkbeas1 [damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk] has joined #openttd 19:35:10 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:46 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 19:41:49 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:22 *** Leander [Simon@27.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 19:49:26 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 19:49:30 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 19:51:52 *** Simonn [Simon@27.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:48 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:47 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 19:59:39 <Leander> two planes just collided 19:59:41 <Leander> what happened? :s 19:59:44 *** Leander is now known as Simonn 20:02:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:08 <Supercheese> planes collided? 20:10:30 <FLHerne> Simonn: That's not possible, AFAIK :o 20:10:52 <Simonn> ooh 20:10:55 <Simonn> maybe just one crashed then? 20:10:57 <Simonn> on the runway? 20:11:02 <Simonn> I thought I saw 2 colliding 20:11:06 <FLHerne> That sounds more likely :-) 20:11:10 <Supercheese> yeah 20:11:54 <Simonn> man how come 20:11:56 <Simonn> thats an 38 20:11:59 <Simonn> a380 20:12:33 <Simonn> I am starting to get the game spirit 20:12:41 <Simonn> I am making these transport hubs 20:12:47 <Simonn> like train/tram/bus/airport 20:12:52 <Simonn> every city has one or two and they are all linked 20:13:13 <Simonn> and then there is one airport which is the large hub, and it is at the center of all the railworks too 20:13:18 <Simonn> man I really like this game when was this invented 20:13:32 <Supercheese> yep, very good game 20:13:59 <Rubidium> 1994-ish 20:14:06 <Simonn> I don't want to brag you know 20:14:08 <Simonn> but just saying 20:14:18 <Simonn> my city might be the best city out of all those cities out there 20:14:19 <Simonn> :x 20:14:20 <Simonn> just sayin 20:14:45 <FLHerne> Simonn: Probably not. I've seen som insane cities :D 20:14:50 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 20:14:52 <Simonn> :( 20:15:19 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [] 20:15:50 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 20:17:19 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:05 <Terkhen> good night 20:24:32 <Simonn> bye bye Terkhen 20:24:33 <Simonn> sleep well 20:24:37 <Simonn> dream about me that's alwahys nice 20:24:37 <Simonn> whehe 20:30:02 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:34:02 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 20:43:57 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 20:56:05 *** Simonn [Simon@27.18-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:20 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_91_-_100#gameid_96 <-- look at those 3 cities, simonn :-) 21:00:07 <NGC3982> "usual suspects" 21:00:07 <NGC3982> :D 21:00:24 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF <-- you might need some of those newgrfs 21:00:28 <planetmaker> hehe, yeah, NGC3982 :-) 21:00:48 <planetmaker> #gm I'm quite proud of "my" 1M city there and its transport network :-P 21:00:52 <NGC3982> My god, what kind of housing is that? 21:01:00 <planetmaker> TTRS 21:01:22 <glx> it generates way too many passengers :) 21:01:46 <planetmaker> yes. The monthly transported passengers per each of the three towns were like 100.000 21:01:47 * NGC3982 finds translation credits by planetmaker. 21:02:40 <planetmaker> I do that sometimes, yes 21:05:28 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:05:30 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 21:06:29 * NGC3982 tries it out. 21:08:04 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/t3jtC.png 21:08:06 <NGC3982> Oh my word! 21:08:08 <NGC3982> That looks great. 21:10:32 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like a very asymmetrical world 21:11:18 <Eddi|zuHause> you should disable the landscape feature distribution with such worlds 21:11:57 <Eddi|zuHause> it only looks good with 1:1 or 1:2 worlds 21:12:25 <NGC3982> Yes, i know. 21:16:14 *** perk11 [~perk11@46.242.10.233] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 21:40:54 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:24 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:41:58 <fjb> Hm, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4 22:56:27 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-101-80-116.customer.schedom-europe.net] has joined #openttd 23:11:01 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:27:43 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 23:38:56 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:41:44 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-105-47.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:58 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-105-47.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 23:53:27 <Supercheese> Devzone seems very very slow 23:53:31 <Supercheese> can't access 23:53:58 <Supercheese> maybe just me