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Log for #openttd on 4th October 2012:
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06:09:57  <Terkhen> good morning
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07:10:45  <NGC3982> Morning.
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14:39:46  <peter1138> 240GB SSD should be enough, right?
14:40:10  <BtbN> enough for 240GB, yeah
14:40:15  <peter1138> hurr hurr
14:40:59  <BtbN> My entire OS is on a 120G SSD
14:41:20  <BtbN> and it's still 50% free
14:42:34  <Jake|afk> For the OS and any applications that benefit from the faster load times, it's plenty. You might want to invest in a conventional hard drive for storing all your video files on though.
14:42:41  <TinoDidriksen> And with transparent compression, you can save 25% space of the OS.
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14:44:16  <peter1138> i'm thinking OS and, uh, Steam apps :p
14:44:52  <peter1138> i don't have any video files o_O
14:45:40  <planetmaker> dd /dev/sda2 /dev/peter1138 :D
14:45:48  <planetmaker> missing if= and of=...
14:45:53  <BtbN> my Steam dir is 450G :>
14:45:58  <Jake|afk> That ought to be more than enough then. I tend to download rather than streaming where possible though.
14:46:10  <peter1138> ...
14:46:15  <peter1138> i don't stream videos either
14:46:22  <planetmaker> eat?
14:46:27  <peter1138> yeah, i eat
14:46:59  <planetmaker> crunchy
14:47:35  <Jake|afk> Or more often just buy the DVD because even torrenting is too expensive on my broadband package.
14:47:57  <peter1138> i don't watch videos on my pc
14:48:15  <planetmaker> :-) I've no other means than to do so ;-)
14:48:24  * Rubidium just "streams" mpeg2 content
14:48:52  <Jake|afk> Me neither unless you count the TV in the living room shared between me, my big sister and her kids.
14:49:53  <peter1138> ..
14:49:59  <peter1138> that sounds like a strange arrangement
14:52:26  <Jake|afk> Not really. I pay her a fairly token rent for the spare bedroom, and I haven't really got space in here for a PC *and* a television.
14:54:40  <Jake|afk> I also have a much nicer speaker system up here for my PC than the old 14-inch CRT telly from a charity shop in the lounge.
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15:26:02  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24571 trunk/src/network/core/os_abstraction.h (2012-10-04 15:25:57 UTC)
15:26:03  <DorpsGek> -Fix: do not cast away const
15:33:19  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24572 trunk/src/os/windows/win32.cpp (2012-10-04 15:33:13 UTC)
15:33:20  <DorpsGek> -Fix: do not cast away some other consts
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15:44:14  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24573 trunk/config.lib (2012-10-04 15:44:09 UTC)
15:44:15  <DorpsGek> -Fix: hopefully get packing right on Mingw's gcc 4.7
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17:00:49  <Belugas> lovely : Q. Why do java developers wear glasses? A. Because they don't C# !
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17:14:19  <Alberth> moin
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17:14:53  <Terkhen> hi Alberth
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17:48:53  <andythenorth> lo
17:49:28  <FLHerne> andythenorth: Hoyo
17:50:45  <Terkhen> hi andythenorth
17:51:59  * andythenorth ponders newgrfs with climate specific vehicles
17:52:05  <andythenorth> doesn't really apply to FISH :P
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17:53:05  <andythenorth> ships are kind of same-ish
17:53:07  <andythenorth> everywhere
17:53:11  <FLHerne> andythenorth: Icebreakers ;-)
17:53:22  <andythenorth> no ice :)
17:53:34  <FLHerne> Add some :P
17:54:08  <FLHerne> Or just reduce the speed of all non-icebreakers in the Arctic, and say they need to be careful of drifting ice lumps ;-)
17:55:06  <FLHerne> Also, the tropical one could use more low-waterline, coastal/island/big river boats?
17:55:51  <Alberth> toyland needs toy boats!
17:56:07  <FLHerne> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/USS_Monocacy_(PR_2).jpg , for example
18:01:03  <andythenorth> climate specific HEQS?
18:02:55  <frosch123> climate specific egrvts?
18:03:17  <frosch123> horses vs. huskies vs. elephants?
18:03:28  <frosch123> i want an elephant grf!
18:03:44  <frosch123> NewElephants and NewKangaroos!
18:04:57  <andythenorth> frosch123: I've had this source image for ages http://www.fao.org/docrep/b3200e/b3200e0h.jpg
18:05:22  <frosch123> i think elephants would fit heqs
18:05:31  <frosch123> slow and carrying lots
18:05:35  <frosch123> compared to horse trams
18:05:42  <andythenorth> do they autorefit?
18:05:54  <frosch123> they are not refittable to food
18:05:56  <frosch123> and fruit
18:06:04  <frosch123> they autoempty on the travel
18:06:39  <frosch123> that image looks like a tugboat actually
18:06:51  <frosch123> faster when empty
18:12:52  <andythenorth> cb 16A: vary cargo amount, called every n days per vehicle
18:13:35  <frosch123> andythenorth: you can use subtypes: 1 elephant, 2 elephants, elephant flock
18:13:59  <andythenorth> number of elephants can change at stations?
18:14:24  <frosch123> hmm, you could eat one, so only make them less?
18:14:44  <andythenorth> elephants can make more elephants
18:14:50  <andythenorth> as long as you have two or more
18:15:01  <frosch123> ah, so you may not drop below two
18:15:21  <frosch123> anyway, ottd is for kids
18:21:16  <Alberth> just call it 'cloning'
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18:43:07  <andythenorth> Alberth: openttd has 'cloning' already :P
18:43:09  <andythenorth> confusing :P
18:43:20  <Alberth> :)
18:43:30  <andythenorth> auto-cloning?
18:43:40  <andythenorth> refit-clone?
18:43:43  <andythenorth> ho
18:43:47  <andythenorth> refit-clone would be awesome
18:43:56  <andythenorth> 'goto parnville, if more than 200t waiting, clone'
18:45:53  <Alberth> you also need 'unclone' then :p
18:46:03  <Alberth> or 'declone' :p
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18:49:36  <frosch123> merge
18:49:54  <frosch123> fork & join :p
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18:50:09  <frosch123> forking elephants sounds interesting
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19:01:03  <andythenorth> maybe that's how to implement 'shunting'
19:01:04  <andythenorth> :P
19:03:17  <andythenorth> with forks
19:03:20  <andythenorth> and elephants
19:10:22  * andythenorth has no fricking idea how to solve autorefit yet
19:10:26  <andythenorth> so no truck set for you :P
19:10:29  <andythenorth> and no new HEQS either :P
19:19:17  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, day of the tentacle is way easier than when i was a kid
19:20:43  <__ln__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkpCzp0CmjY the britons' idea of railway traffic
19:25:13  <Eddi|zuHause> is maniac mansion actually winnable with any combination of characters?
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19:35:24  <Alberth> assuming you tried at least once, I'd say not all combinations give a win :p
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19:43:38  <andythenorth> ho
19:43:45  <andythenorth> I have nearly fixed all the badly lit graphics in FISH
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19:44:35  <Wolf01> oddink
19:45:03  <andythenorth> woof
19:45:10  <Wolf01> s**t, today it's even :P
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20:01:59  <andythenorth> can anyone remember how snow support works in FIRS?
20:03:26  <FLHerne> andythenorth: I can't :P
20:04:55  <__ln__> http://jollatides.com/2012/10/04/new-jolla-press-release-date-confirmed/
20:06:58  <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's from a time where adventures were made so you can actually lose them
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20:11:56  <Terkhen> andythenorth: switch dependent on tile snowiness IIRC
20:15:48  <andythenorth> ta
20:15:56  * andythenorth is drawing snow
20:20:47  <FLHerne> andythenorth: What for? :-)
20:20:55  <andythenorth> sugar refinery
20:21:27  <Supercheese> snow cones? :P
20:21:28  <frosch123> oh, i thought for winter
20:21:48  <Rubidium> oh, I though for CHRIST (CHRistmas Industry SeT)
20:22:12  <frosch123> what cargos does it have?
20:22:40  <Rubidium> reindeer, jingle bells, presents, christmas trees, lights
20:22:41  <frosch123> do you deliver reindeers to food plants?
20:23:39  <andythenorth> can santa's sleigh autorefit
20:24:04  <andythenorth> ?
20:24:04  <andythenorth> or presents only?
20:24:17  <Rubidium> you need to deliver everything across the map in a single day ;)
20:24:36  <frosch123> andythenorth: everything can be a present, can't it?
20:24:40  <frosch123> so, sounds like refit to all to me
20:24:41  <Rubidium> does his bag contain naughty kids on the way back, like Sinterklaas?
20:24:48  <andythenorth> christmas GS?
20:25:03  <Supercheese> Santa Claus cheats, he uses the daylength patch :P
20:25:14  <MNIM> make a small little industry that produces presents, has to be put in the north of the map and make deliveries worthless unless delivered in one day
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20:25:18  <Supercheese> and build while paused
20:26:07  <frosch123> well, i guess santa's intercontinental airport just cannot handle the amount
20:26:19  <Supercheese> he should build an International, they're more efficient
20:26:36  <frosch123> is a sleigh more like a plane or a helicopter?
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20:26:46  <andythenorth> hovercraft :P
20:26:58  <andythenorth> probably helicopter
20:27:10  <frosch123> yeah, roofs are quite short :)
20:27:49  <andythenorth> http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=lego+winter+village&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi
20:32:52  <frosch123> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyOl7ZVtt4&feature=relmfu <- found it
20:32:56  <frosch123> (ignore the music)
20:34:10  <Rubidium> a white christmas? That's so unreal... the only white you get here during christmas is loads of fog
20:34:18  * andythenorth needs a faster connection
20:35:50  <frosch123> hmm, i did not remember that actually none of those vehicles drivers
20:36:00  <andythenorth> no youtube for me :P
20:37:21  * andythenorth had better sleep
20:37:30  <andythenorth> bye
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20:49:52  <Terkhen> good night
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21:20:57  <frosch123> night
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21:57:42  <SgtGeneralCase> zBase r171 makes openttd 1.2.2 (+opengfx 0.4.4) crash. Should I bother with a bug report or..?
21:59:15  <V453000> just report it and they will sort it out somehow :)
22:13:37  <Wolf01> 'night all
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23:53:47  <Eddi|zuHause> you know what i hate? when you dig out an old strategy game and it reproduceably crashes like 100 turns in
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23:54:33  <SgtGeneralCase> Sounds like Fast Chess :)
23:57:09  <Eddi|zuHause> and while we're ranting, why does scummvm screw up all window sizes and positions when going full-screen?
23:57:22  <SgtGeneralCase> Eddi|zuHause: that's a bug of Xorg :/
23:57:38  <SgtGeneralCase> or SDL (whichever you like to blame)
23:57:50  <Eddi|zuHause> but neither wine nor dosbox do that
23:59:00  <SgtGeneralCase> Let me find my bug
23:59:40  <SgtGeneralCase> http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058
23:59:55  <Eddi|zuHause> when wine goes to fullscreen, and properly exits, then all my windows are back where they belong

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