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did you load a bridge grf? 05:07:20 <tracerpt> ye 05:07:28 <Supercheese> what year is it in-game? 05:07:36 <tracerpt> 1957 05:07:39 <Supercheese> Early years will have few bridges 05:07:46 <Supercheese> Hmm, should be plenty by then though 05:07:58 <tracerpt> maybe i have too much grfs loaded 05:08:08 <tracerpt> or some incompatibilitie 05:08:11 <tracerpt> or some incompatibility 05:08:17 <Supercheese> Recent versions of OTTD will prevent you from adding more than the limit 05:08:38 <Supercheese> so probably not that, but could be a number of other things 05:08:49 <tracerpt> ill take a screen of what i have loaded 05:10:44 <tracerpt> nevermind 05:10:46 <tracerpt> im so stupid 05:10:49 <tracerpt> -.- 05:10:53 <tracerpt> its not loaded :( 05:11:19 <tracerpt> the bridge renewal thing 05:12:55 <Supercheese> Ah, well load it ... unless you've already started making progress in the game 05:13:05 <tracerpt> not much 05:13:17 <tracerpt> can i load it midgame? 05:13:20 <Supercheese> Have to start a new game, I had to do that the other day 05:13:25 <tracerpt> ah 05:13:56 <Supercheese> Well, I upgraded patchpack version, that's a bit more savegame-destructive than just grfs 05:14:25 <tracerpt> got 20 trains in 2 lines 05:14:31 <tracerpt> 2.5M 05:14:45 <tracerpt> so not much, but i really liked the layout of the map 05:15:04 <tracerpt> i'll just continue 05:15:16 <tracerpt> will be by 2150 by next week anyway xD 05:16:04 <Supercheese> Oh, and then Pikka updated Av8, I had to upgrade that too 05:16:13 <tracerpt> I never use jets 05:16:25 <Supercheese> Airships 05:16:31 <Supercheese> Rigid airships are where it's at 05:16:41 <Supercheese> Jets are so cramped and uncomfortable 05:16:45 <tracerpt> zepelins? 05:17:00 <Supercheese> Zeppelins indeed, for 1920s-1930s anyway 05:17:14 <tracerpt> i never start my games that early 05:17:14 <Supercheese> Modern Zeppelin is cramped and uncomfortable too, unfortunately 05:17:18 <Supercheese> and non-rigid 05:17:31 <Supercheese> some people, like myself, like to start in the 19th century 05:17:45 <Supercheese> I've even started in 1820 05:17:50 <tracerpt> :o 05:18:03 <Supercheese> Trevithick and Stephenson engines, and the like 05:18:17 <Supercheese> plus horses. Loooots of horses 05:18:34 <Supercheese> and ships, which have the highest capacity 05:18:48 <tracerpt> i got about 1/3 of a horse downstairs in the freezer 05:18:49 <tracerpt> :X 05:18:55 <Supercheese> O_o 05:18:59 <tracerpt> lasagnas burgers etc :D 05:19:24 <Supercheese> eat it, and you'll be running on horsepower, eh 05:19:35 <tracerpt> yeah 05:21:03 <tracerpt> im also not a big fan of steam engines 05:21:08 <tracerpt> in the game that is 05:22:10 <Supercheese> Steam >> all else 05:22:17 <Supercheese> Diesel is boring 05:22:20 <Supercheese> electric boringer 05:22:46 <Supercheese> No complex pipes, potentially dangerous boiler pressures, smoke everywhere 05:22:51 <Supercheese> zzzzz 05:23:19 <Supercheese> Forget efficiency, cost, speed, whatever 05:23:30 <Supercheese> Coolness > any other consideration ;) 05:23:34 <tracerpt> i dont like them in the game :P 05:23:45 <tracerpt> i really like the real thing 05:23:52 <Supercheese> Bah, there are 115 mph steam engines in the game 05:23:56 <Supercheese> Fast enough for anything 05:24:04 <Supercheese> well, in UKRS anyway 05:24:42 <tracerpt> got that one 05:24:46 <tracerpt> never tried it 05:24:47 <Supercheese> Admittedly you will still want to upgrade to electric engines as the game progresses 05:24:54 <tracerpt> more power 05:24:56 <tracerpt> more speed 05:24:57 <Supercheese> 140 mph etc. 05:25:05 <tracerpt> i like diesels 05:25:17 <Supercheese> My games rarely even make it to the diesel era 05:25:28 <Supercheese> I start so early I end up starting another new game before 1940 or so :P 05:25:40 <tracerpt> ahah 05:25:46 <Supercheese> I should play a modern game sometime 05:25:51 <tracerpt> got a game at 2188 05:25:56 <Supercheese> Last time I did that was, like, OTTD 1.0 :S 05:26:02 <Supercheese> or future, even 05:26:17 <Supercheese> that Mars set looks interesting 05:26:31 <tracerpt> but now i found out about all this stuff i can add 05:26:41 <tracerpt> industry grfs rock 05:26:42 <tracerpt> :) 05:27:03 <tracerpt> the industry sets 05:27:05 <tracerpt> i meant 05:27:17 <Supercheese> decidedly 05:27:35 <tracerpt> u want to take a look at the game where i tested this new stuff? 05:27:47 <Supercheese> after ECS and FIRS the default industries are appallingly boring 05:27:58 <tracerpt> didnt try ECS 05:28:02 <Supercheese> after playing* 05:28:08 <tracerpt> playing firs 05:33:30 <Bad_Brett> what is the best thing about FIRS, in your opinion? 05:33:45 <tracerpt> keeps me busy 05:34:05 <tracerpt> the whole production chain 05:34:10 <tracerpt> and suply 05:34:27 <Supercheese> Best thing is more industries and more cargoes 05:34:30 <Supercheese> more variety 05:35:05 <Supercheese> also new station rating mechancs, no more random-industry-closures 05:35:11 <Supercheese> mechanics* 05:36:02 <Bad_Brett> yeah that can be frustrating 05:36:32 <Bad_Brett> do you think that the industries should shut down if the transportation is really bad for a long time? 05:38:03 <Supercheese> Nope, I hate industries closing 05:38:15 <Supercheese> Only reason an industry should close is if I magic-bulldoze it :P 05:39:17 <tracerpt> sry 05:39:26 <tracerpt> got in a really tense poker hand 05:39:48 <Supercheese> I'm no good at poker, I never get good hands, I just get feet :P 05:40:17 <tracerpt> u got to be patient 05:42:13 <Bad_Brett> hmm... it's going to be hard to find a balance then 05:43:05 <Supercheese> are you coding industries? 05:44:04 <Bad_Brett> not right now, but i've coded some different economic climates earlier 05:44:19 <Bad_Brett> a dirty solution using switch blocks 05:44:27 <Supercheese> It should be fairly easy to have a grf parameter for "disable industry closure" like FIRS has 05:45:05 <Bad_Brett> yeah, but the thing is that some "industries" must close 05:45:26 <Bad_Brett> which you obviously hate (and probably a lot of other people as well) 05:46:33 <Bad_Brett> like the oil wells in the standard game that tend to disappear after 1950 05:46:44 <Bad_Brett> and are replaced with oil rigs 05:47:15 <Bad_Brett> it's frustrating, but at the same time it adds some flavour to the game 05:49:11 <Bad_Brett> hmm... i might release to two different versions 05:49:38 <Bad_Brett> one with history based economics and one that is more sandbox-like 05:49:57 <Supercheese> Or use a parameter 05:50:01 * Supercheese likes parameters 05:50:13 <Supercheese> FIRS has economy parameters 05:56:30 <Bad_Brett> yes... yes 05:56:47 <Bad_Brett> you'll have to playtest it for me 05:59:39 <Supercheese> Will do, I can even contribute code if you'd like :) 06:02:44 <tracerpt> use a beer 06:02:47 <Bad_Brett> :D 06:02:49 <tracerpt> is more refreshing 06:02:50 <tracerpt> :) 06:02:59 <tracerpt> busy with poker now 06:07:14 <Bad_Brett> hehe... i've hidden a photo of chris saywer somewhere in the game... wonder if anyone will notice it 06:11:26 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:13:02 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15:33 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20:26 <tracerpt> which grf? 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08:15:44 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:25:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:42:19 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 08:47:36 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04e9ca.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:51:32 <andythenorth> whoever did diagonal raise / lower should have a medal 08:51:38 <andythenorth> also whoever fixed auto-signal a while ago 08:52:12 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has left #openttd [] 08:52:15 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 08:54:21 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:05:58 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331]] 09:06:06 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:11:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:14:57 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-50dd93-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:18:41 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 09:33:01 <tracerpt> there's a diagonal raise now? 09:33:02 <tracerpt> cool 09:33:06 <tracerpt> morning :D 09:36:58 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:51:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 10:34:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:47:06 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 10:51:26 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-59-87.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:57:24 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:59:13 *** tracerpt [5766760b@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:05:07 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:38:24 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:44:35 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:45:21 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:46:09 <Pokka> who's got any new eye candy? 11:50:30 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:42 <planetmaker> hey Pokka wrt to http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1068120#p1068120 : is it safe if I simply lower the version check for av8 to 2150? Or are there released av8 with 2150 which do not follow it? 12:11:58 <Pokka> oh 12:12:06 <Pokka> did I not update the version number 12:12:08 <Pokka> whoops :) 12:13:12 <Pokka> well, I have another translation to add, so I'll do that and rerelease the grf as 2201 12:13:30 <planetmaker> ok, then I'll keep the check at 2200 12:15:15 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 12:17:41 <planetmaker> as I assume that the previous version as on bananas will announce itself also then as 2150, yes? 12:18:31 <peter1138> my god 12:18:43 <peter1138> jeph managed to draw somebody who looks oldish 12:20:24 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wlan132190.mobiel.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25:54 *** Biolunar__ [~mahdi@blfd-4d08e1ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 12:28:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:33:40 <Pokka> yes planetmaker 12:34:05 <Pokka> what's a jeph, peter1138 12:35:36 <Pokka> I'd say I stopped reading QC when it stopped being interesting or funny, but that would be a lie 12:35:46 <Pokka> because it's never been interesting or funny 12:35:48 <planetmaker> sweet & thanks, Pokka 12:42:50 <peter1138> yup 12:42:55 <peter1138> that's also why i don't read the forums 12:44:56 * V453000 wanted in to throw in his 2c about not keeping his threads alive :P 12:46:36 *** |2rB [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:46 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:48:27 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:50:38 <Pokka> the ttd forums, peter1138? 12:50:45 <Pokka> :) 12:50:48 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:50:53 <Pokka> -d 12:51:21 <Eddi|zuHause> go read the simutrans forums then, you heretic!! 12:51:28 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host109-145-49-167.range109-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:52:36 <peter1138> simuscape forums! 12:52:56 <Eddi|zuHause> those too :p 12:52:57 <Pokka> simuscape is both funny and interesting, surely :) 12:53:42 <peter1138> i wouldn't know 12:56:10 <V453000> well from what I saw the development threads seem to make at least some sense 12:56:42 <V453000> @ ss 13:06:55 <Eddi|zuHause> Pokka: do you have the ability to test version 3 of the patch at http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5487 ? 13:07:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Pokka: in the action14, set parameter type to "2" ("random") 13:08:16 <Eddi|zuHause> (idea by frosch123) 13:08:57 <V453000> idea from frosch does not involve unicorns? 13:08:59 <V453000> suspicious 13:09:20 <Eddi|zuHause> somewhat :) 13:13:51 <Pokka> newunicorns 13:14:51 <Pokka> not at the moment, Eddi|zuHause 13:19:19 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wlan132023.mobiel.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 13:32:36 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:48 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 13:34:35 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... shouldn't it be MMXIII? 13:35:48 <V453000> it is? 13:35:58 <Eddi|zuHause> not on xkcd 13:36:09 <V453000> oh :) 13:36:22 <V453000> but yeah MMXIII should be correct in my book 13:36:53 <planetmaker> yes, it should. 13:37:05 <V453000> hehe yeah :) mistake 13:37:14 <planetmaker> I wonder how many people will point that out. But I couldn't be bothered to find out :D 13:37:48 <V453000> :P 13:38:25 * goodger notifies randall 13:49:01 <Eddi|zuHause> go get him! that totally ruined my day!! :p 13:51:56 <goodger> I was beaten to it by several people, apparently 13:52:06 <goodger> probably shouldn't have bothered. 13:52:24 <Eddi|zuHause> that was to be expected :p 13:52:33 <Eddi|zuHause> the comic is up for several hours already 13:52:46 <Eddi|zuHause> and read by lunatic nitpickers... 13:53:12 <Eddi|zuHause> so it probably took about 3 seconds for the first person to notice 13:53:46 <goodger> yarp. 13:53:59 <goodger> though iirc I was the first to report an error in one of his earlier comics 13:55:35 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:02 <Eddi|zuHause> and he missed the format i use the most 13:56:09 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:56:09 <Eddi|zuHause> 27.2.2013 13:57:18 <goodger> that just looks wrong to me 13:57:38 <goodger> but that's due to different symbols for the decimal point 13:58:16 <Eddi|zuHause> "Sometime in the last few years, we reached a point where there are, by weight, more ships in the ocean than fish." <-- i think that was when andythenorth said "fish is ships" 13:58:45 <goodger> anthropocene ftw 14:02:26 <V453000> :D 14:15:38 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:49 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:21:13 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 14:39:47 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 14:50:11 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:22 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:04:04 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:20:19 *** Maedhros [~maedhros@199.198.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:34:21 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:39:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:41:48 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:42 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:53 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:43:41 <Belugas> hello 16:04:37 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08e1ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:02 *** metralha761 [59b4db15@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:11:07 *** metralha761 [59b4db15@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 16:11:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:33:43 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:33:54 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:34:02 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-104-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 16:41:02 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 16:41:31 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:43:09 *** JJ [5b00f2ae@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:43:58 *** Snail [~snail@mobile-198-228-195-242.mycingular.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:43 *** maan [502f9929@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:50:00 <maan> good afternoon 16:50:49 <maan> any1 around I wonder 16:51:35 *** JJ [5b00f2ae@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:51:58 <maan> is this the pace to get support? 16:53:26 <blathijs> maan: Only if you start by asking (real) questions :-) 16:54:38 <__ln__> he asked about pace, not place. 16:54:48 *** Snail [~snail@mobile-198-228-195-242.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 16:54:54 <maan> I have been experimenting with 32bpp graphics and my problem is i can only see the train engine and no carriages - is this correct or am I doing something wrong? 16:55:16 <maan> lol __in__ 16:55:30 <__ln__> it's a good pace. 16:55:51 <maan> yeah adn I like this pace lol 16:55:58 <maan> and* 16:56:50 <maan> is there a special loading order for the graphics? 17:13:14 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 17:14:25 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: well even for a pace, he should start by asking a question at some point :p 17:15:03 *** snorre [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:39 <maan> I have been experimenting with 32bpp graphics and my problem is i can only see the train engine and no carriages - is this correct or am I doing something wrong? 17:15:40 <Eddi|zuHause> maan: most of the times, the order doesn't matter, sometimes it does. it's hard to know for sure without knowing which exact grfs you try (maybe give a savegame?) 17:16:07 *** tracerpt [5766760b@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:16:13 <tracerpt> *burp* 17:16:21 <tracerpt> aloha :D 17:17:22 <maan> hello again tracept 17:18:12 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:23:01 <maan> problem sorted guys thanx for the tips 17:24:18 <Eddi|zuHause> "the average car driver buys 3 new and 5 used cars in his lifetime, which cost 116.900 â¬, buys fuel for 78.900⬠and pays 58.100⬠in insurance and taxes. in total he spends 332.000⬠on cars" 17:24:55 <Pinkbeast> Makes you wonder why I'm still skint. :-/ 17:26:40 <maan> lol guys 17:27:12 <maan> speaking from a non-driver#s point of view and probly much richer too 17:30:44 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wlan132023.mobiel.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:04 <Eddi|zuHause> if you spend 332.000⬠in 54 years, that means about 500⬠a month 17:31:09 <maan> so how are all today - good i hope 17:32:03 <Eddi|zuHause> and since this is an everage, there may be much cheaper and much more expensive options 17:35:20 *** |2rB [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:39:57 <Pinkbeast> maan: That's the thing, I haven't so much as been in a motor car since about 2007, so where's my E500 a month, eh? :-) 17:40:26 <maan> eddie has been syphoning off lol 17:42:43 *** chester_ [~chester@95-28-96-227.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:43:10 <Eddi|zuHause> "With 96 sun-hours, this is the darkest winter since 1951" 17:44:09 <planetmaker> is it now finally? 17:47:25 <tracerpt> lol 17:49:04 <tracerpt> I never had a car 17:49:24 <tracerpt> don't even have a driving licence 17:49:26 * planetmaker does... luxury item :D 17:49:33 <tracerpt> only motorbikes 17:49:49 <tracerpt> but don't have one since i got married 17:50:00 <tracerpt> should have sold the ex-wife instead 17:51:06 <tracerpt> someone take a look at this, how many trains you think i can get running on this spot without getting them stuck? 17:51:09 <tracerpt> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4024494/FlightSims/Seven%20Deuce%20Shipping%2C%2027th%20Jan%201964.png 17:51:53 <Pinkbeast> Coo, that's in a bit of a massive flat void space 17:54:00 <tracerpt> indeed 17:55:17 <Eddi|zuHause> you can throw LOOOTS of trains at a simple double track line 17:55:47 <planetmaker> a full track needs 6 ... 8 station tracks with a fast entry / exit. 17:56:04 <planetmaker> Given the presented station... the track probably fills it at half track capacity 17:58:28 <tracerpt> I'll probably going to have to redesign it afterwards 17:59:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd just fill it with trains until you notice a bottleneck, then improve there 17:59:30 <tracerpt> it's like a roundabout around the station 17:59:36 <tracerpt> starting to get busy 18:00:01 <peter1138> wait a minute 18:00:05 <peter1138> that's not a flight sim 18:00:10 <tracerpt> lol 18:00:26 <tracerpt> i couldn't bother to create a new folder 18:00:33 <tracerpt> didn't* 18:18:09 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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20:35:29 <Supercheese> Hmm, no 20:35:35 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:38:29 <Supercheese> Moderator wizardry, I suspect 20:41:54 *** oskari892 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:26 <Eddi|zuHause> where? 20:42:47 <Supercheese> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=30634&start=20#p1068187 20:42:53 <Supercheese> Green name powers 20:43:03 <Supercheese> Probably, anyway :P 20:47:27 <frosch123> i rather wonder why he has the company gui stickied 20:47:34 <frosch123> does it display any useful information? 20:47:56 *** Pokka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52:01 <jonty-comp> yes, it is god-power 20:53:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd like to have the company gui "minimizable" like the finances gui, to have easy access to the "switch to this company" button 21:02:51 <frosch123> are you playng infra sharing? 21:03:22 <frosch123> you could also play a multiplayer game with yourself 21:03:25 <planetmaker> hm, where's our titlegame in trunk? :D 21:03:26 <frosch123> and start multiple clients 21:03:30 <frosch123> though you cannot cheat then :p 21:03:37 <frosch123> planetmaker: bin? 21:04:00 <frosch123> hmm 21:04:28 <frosch123> oh, bin/baseset 21:04:37 <frosch123> did not expect it there 21:04:43 <planetmaker> he. Me neither 21:04:45 <planetmaker> thanks 21:05:31 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: yes, i was playing an IS-multiplayer game with myself 21:06:02 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: but switching companies back and forth is troublesome if you have to have the big company gui open all the time (or reopem them every time) 21:06:13 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: having a smaller version of the company gui would help 21:06:31 <frosch123> well, isn't it more troublesome that half of the construction guis are closed? 21:06:40 <frosch123> so, i would definitely recommend you to use multiple clients 21:07:42 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i can easily open the rail gui with the a key :) 21:07:57 <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't remember the construction guis being closed 21:08:46 <Eddi|zuHause> at least if they were, it wasn't as big of a trouble than having 4 company guis taking up half the screen 21:10:01 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: with multiple clients i'd always have to search for the right one to use the pause button 21:10:30 <Eddi|zuHause> (plus it makes all calculations 4 times, wasting a lot of energy) 21:11:16 <frosch123> just have one screen for each company 21:11:24 <frosch123> :p 21:12:05 <planetmaker> :D 21:12:18 <frosch123> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Tycoon#Third_party_updates 21:20:30 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-71-172.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:29 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:39:51 <__ln__> http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article113960709/Am-Flughafen-BER-geht-nicht-mal-das-Licht-aus.html 21:43:48 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i heard about that :p 21:46:59 <oskari89> Kind of nice advertising for that automation company which built that :) 21:47:35 *** swissfan91 [5e0265c9@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:47:45 *** swissfan91 [5e0265c9@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 21:49:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure it was a siemens/t-systems conglomerate :p 21:49:47 <frosch123> you mean something like tollcollect? 21:51:13 <Eddi|zuHause> pretty much 21:53:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.163.55] has joined #openttd 21:56:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.163.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25052 trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp (2013-02-27 21:23:19 UTC) 22:13:27 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5490]: Refactor Script Debug GUI to only set widget states in OnInvalidateData. 22:23:24 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:38:49 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, it's MMXIII now :) 22:41:32 <Rubidium> ugh... what a horrid language is Dutch (in OpenTTD at least) 22:44:11 <Eddi|zuHause> play in german then :) 22:44:57 <Rubidium> nein! 22:52:49 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:02:11 <frosch123> night 23:02:14 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f50bf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:56 *** joey8 [~JoeEvans@host86-172-145-90.range86-172.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:02:59 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25053 trunk/src/cargoaction.cpp (2013-02-27 22:12:53 UTC) 23:03:00 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5488, FS#5484] (r25010): transfer credits were not given 23:05:10 *** chester_ [~chester@95-28-96-227.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:09 <Eddi|zuHause> who cares about those anyway :p 23:16:43 <Terkhen> good night 23:16:50 <joey8> g.night 23:40:04 *** joey8 [~JoeEvans@host86-172-145-90.range86-172.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:03 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-36-39.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]