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Log for #openttd on 9th April 2013:
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06:07:37  <Flygon> I'm going to need a better CPU...
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06:09:00  <Flygon> 1600 RVs would do that
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08:56:10  <andythenorth> I miss YACD
08:56:13  <andythenorth> is all I'm saying :(
09:03:19  <V453000> dying
09:03:32  <V453000> btw andy, people are quite fanatical about FIRS cargo charts
09:03:41  <andythenorth> orly
09:03:43  <andythenorth> whom?
09:03:50  <V453000> might be one of the things to include in docs ... if you can make one actually readable
09:03:59  <V453000> whom all of dem :D
09:04:27  <V453000> like http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/2013/04/FIRS1.0.png
09:04:48  <V453000> but if you ask me it needs to be a lot better structured and somehow graphically enhanced to not make it look so confusing
09:04:57  <andythenorth> http://hawkdawg.com/img/rrt/rt3/Industry_Chart.jpg
09:05:39  <V453000> bit nicer but still a mess
09:05:46  <V453000> I think higlighting some industry groups is a good idea
09:06:32  <andythenorth> $someone should automate it
09:06:39  <andythenorth> all the info is exposed in python
09:06:59  <V453000> well certainly not me :P
09:07:31  * V453000 is a total bitch, only commands but aint doing labor
09:07:45  <andythenorth> http://fabricjs.com
09:07:54  <TWerkhoven> does that mean you have slaves living under your desk to do the work on nuts?
09:07:54  <andythenorth> http://kineticjs.com
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09:09:11  <andythenorth> http://diagramo.com
09:10:24  <V453000> nuts aint labor :P
09:10:58  <V453000> it makes itself
09:11:01  <V453000> almost
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12:30:15  <andythenorth> planetmaker: can we colour shell output from makefile? o_O
12:52:19  <HellTiger> playing on difficult hard is rly pretty different.
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13:57:55  <HellTiger> i cant fund suply industry?
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13:58:48  <Eddi|zuHause> there is a setting whether you can fund primary industries
14:01:59  <HellTiger> and most players do it?
14:02:58  <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea
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14:18:10  <sh4wn> Hi guys, is it possible to let a dedicated server listen to both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address? currently starting a server with the option "-D 0.0.0.0:4000"
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14:51:58  <heffer> sh4wn: i haven't found a way either
14:54:03  <Tulitomaatti> can airports be upgraded in a nice way?
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15:08:51  <__ln__> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/09/world/europe/nuntii-latini-news-broadcast-in-finland-unites-fans-of-latin.html
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15:12:44  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm hitting a paywall...
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15:20:50  <Eddi|zuHause> in other news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh5g7KY0b9Y&list=PL275665B1DD6AB98F
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15:48:25  <Rubidium> heffer (since sh4wn isn't here anymore): OpenTTD binds to both IPv4 and IPv6 by default, if you only want another port use "-D :4000" and it should bind to both. Unless addresses are mentioned in server_bind_addresses in openttd.cfg
15:50:53  <heffer> aahhhh i see. my old cfg was blocking that i guess
15:51:05  <heffer> could only ever get it to listen on either ipv4 or ipv6
15:53:04  <Rubidium> alternatively, if you use a DNS/hosts name, it should bind to every one it can resolve to (I think)
15:55:42  <Rubidium> anyhow, you can add as many IPs as you want under server_bind_addresses
15:56:03  <Rubidium> not sure how many people would want to use, but heh... they're free to
16:16:49  <heffer> and with IPv6 they have bazillions of possibilities :D
16:28:31  <Terkhen> hello
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17:01:34  <Alberth> o/
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17:45:24  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25171 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished (faroese.txt gaelic.txt) (2013-04-09 17:45:16 UTC)
17:45:25  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:26  <DorpsGek> faroese - 6 changes by FastNinja
17:45:27  <DorpsGek> gaelic - 106 changes by GunChleoc
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18:55:31  <Wolf01> moin
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19:05:34  <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25172 extra/musa/musad.py (2013-04-09 19:05:28 UTC)
19:05:35  <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix: Don't make our dependencies depend on us
19:08:58  <Eddi|zuHause> circular dependencies are fun :)
19:10:21  <V453000> sounds funny
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19:29:27  <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25173 extra/musa/misc.py (2013-04-09 19:29:20 UTC)
19:29:28  <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix: Dependencies on AIs/GSes did not work correctly
19:33:01  <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25174 extra/musa/musa.py (2013-04-09 19:32:56 UTC)
19:33:02  <DorpsGek> [musa] -Fix (r25145): Wait with removing the temporary tar file until we have uploaded it
19:34:22  * Zuu find it fun that actual uploading using the client got fixed after fixing some server issues. :-)
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19:46:43  <Alberth> otherwise it would be too predictable where to fix stuff :)
19:47:45  <Zuu> :-)
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20:04:22  <Terkhen> good night
20:07:25  <Wolf01> 'night Terkhen
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20:15:47  <planetmaker> hello
20:16:35  <frosch123> moin pm :)
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20:29:32  <Zuu> Oh, a planetmaker :-)
20:30:34  <Alberth> hi
20:32:28  <andythenorth> planetmaker: https://github.com/dcjones/colormake
20:32:32  <andythenorth> ^ kind of interesting
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20:34:46  <frosch123> andythenorth: because of the "Bjarni"? :p
20:34:58  <andythenorth> nah, because I like colours :P
20:35:59  <frosch123> lickable?
20:36:08  <andythenorth> ish
20:38:46  <planetmaker> hm
20:39:11  <andythenorth> herp
20:40:03  <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4244/colors.png
20:40:08  <planetmaker> so, andy, does it work for you?
20:40:11  <andythenorth> print "-e 3[33m [PYTHON] render docs"
20:40:14  <planetmaker> if you just use colourmake instead of make?
20:40:24  <andythenorth> planetmaker: it does with FISH, not with FIRS
20:40:29  <planetmaker> as I read it, it's just a matter that anyone should be able to use it
20:40:36  <planetmaker> and if not - it's the fault of colourmake :P
20:40:51  <andythenorth> the image above is my own attempt at passing ansi colors
20:41:09  <andythenorth> this is colormake... http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4247/colormake.png
20:42:05  <Alberth> anyone with an ANSI terminal capable of displaying colours ;)
20:44:16  <Alberth> I prefer to see the raw commands being executed anyway :)
20:44:32  <planetmaker> :-)
20:44:48  <planetmaker> depends
20:44:56  <Wolf01> 'night boys
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20:45:21  * frosch123 likes executing the verbosity with -s :p
20:45:52  * andythenorth patches nml
20:45:53  <planetmaker> :D
20:46:02  <planetmaker> what does it need patching with? colormake?
20:46:16  * planetmaker misses yexo. and hirundo
20:46:32  <andythenorth> +1
20:46:41  * Alberth misses planetmaker
20:47:01  <Alberth> but luckily he is still here somewhat :)
20:47:13  <planetmaker> :-) yes... time. time :S
20:47:26  <frosch123> and andy is already about to replace planetmake with colourmake
20:47:28  * andythenorth misses Alberth
20:47:35  <andythenorth> alberth misses frosch123
20:47:39  <andythenorth> we should aim better :P
20:47:56  <frosch123> and dalestan :)
20:47:56  <planetmaker> :-P
20:48:07  <andythenorth> dalestan had good aim
20:48:19  <frosch123> though V seems to step up in that direction
20:48:29  <planetmaker> dalestan direction?
20:48:44  <andythenorth> maintaining grfcodec? :o
20:48:49  <Alberth> good aim direction :)
20:48:56  <frosch123> no, backseat moderation on forums
20:49:00  <planetmaker> :D
20:50:04  <Alberth> good night
20:50:25  <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4250/colornml.png
20:50:39  <planetmaker> good night, Alberth :-)#
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20:51:21  <andythenorth> planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5411
20:52:45  <SpComb> import logging
20:53:13  <SpComb> although not sure off the bat if there's built-in support for colored log output
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21:02:02  <andythenorth> planetmaker: now with error color: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4256/nmlcolor_errors.png
21:04:27  <frosch123> night
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21:09:48  <andythenorth> me too
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21:46:05  <SwaToRz> Quick question guys - I need help with OpenTTD
21:46:28  <V453000> that is a big question
21:46:43  <SwaToRz> When I open the game it tells me to acquire a graphics set
21:46:47  <SwaToRz> I have no idea what to do :[
21:47:02  <SwaToRz> I'm Mac OS X 10.8.3 (latest)
21:47:31  <V453000> tried google?
21:47:43  <SwaToRz> yes sir
21:48:01  <V453000> because openttd graphics set seems to give more result than all of the people in this channel could possibly spam you with
21:48:10  <V453000> well, what is the problem then
21:48:13  <glx> bad luck OSX is the only version without auto download of base set :)
21:48:27  <SwaToRz> I don't know what that means
21:48:34  <SwaToRz> I'm not very hardware savvy
21:48:44  <SwaToRz> Am I screwed and can't play the game?
21:49:03  <glx> you just need to download them manually
21:49:43  <SwaToRz> okidoki
21:50:12  <SwaToRz> Where do I do that? What am I looking for?
21:51:06  <glx> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/
21:51:48  <glx> and http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opensfx/ for sounds, http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/ for music
21:52:26  <SwaToRz> Weird that it wouldn't be included in the game download file
21:52:34  <SwaToRz> Thanks for the links, downloading now
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21:53:07  <glx> it's not included because it's big and the same for all versions
21:53:42  <glx> and openttd for windows or linux has a feature to download them at startup if needed
21:54:04  <SwaToRz> k so I downloaded everything - where do I place those files once I unzip them?
21:54:05  <glx> but we don't have any OSX dev to do the same
21:54:23  <planetmaker> it basically means you did not read the readme, in particular section 4 :D
21:54:28  <SwaToRz> glx: you have a French name
21:54:37  <SwaToRz> I looked at section 3
21:54:39  <SwaToRz> i mean 4.
21:54:45  <SwaToRz> I just suck at this kind of stuff
21:54:46  <SwaToRz> :|
21:54:54  <planetmaker> you only need to download OpenGFX manually and place it in ~/Documents/OpenTTD/baseset
21:55:02  <SwaToRz> k
21:55:20  <glx> http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenGFX_Readme <-- see point 3.2 :)
21:55:23  <SwaToRz> guess I have to create that folder heh
21:55:35  <planetmaker> maybe
21:56:23  <planetmaker> in xterm: mkdir -p ~/Documents/OpenTTD/baseset
21:56:28  <SwaToRz> k!
21:56:29  <planetmaker> mind the case of things
21:56:33  <SwaToRz> now I got the graphics running the game works!
21:56:45  <SwaToRz> now I need to figure out the other 2 zip files
21:56:47  <SwaToRz> and I'm set :D
21:57:09  <planetmaker> nice. And from ingame you can now also get sound and music sets. via ingame content download
21:57:27  <glx> that's the easier way indeed
21:57:33  <SwaToRz> k
21:57:48  <glx> I forgot it when giving the links
21:58:08  <SwaToRz> wow that's awesome
21:58:09  <SwaToRz> works :D
21:58:11  <SwaToRz> thanks guys!
21:58:14  <SwaToRz> time to try and play this game
21:58:23  <SwaToRz> can I donate $$ to the project?
21:59:21  <SwaToRz> ah found the donate link
21:59:23  <SwaToRz> k see ya later
21:59:26  <SwaToRz> gonna play my ass off
21:59:26  <SwaToRz> :D
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21:59:56  <glx> another happy "customer" :)
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