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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 03:39:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D68F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:46:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6C530.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:50:08 <DDR> Eddi|zuHause: As someone who has touched other GUI code: "Slap." 03:50:17 <DDR> A mere four hours later. :P 04:35:50 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has quit [Quit: I'm using a Free IRC Bouncer from BNC4FREE - http://bnc4free.com/] 04:41:19 *** lugo [lugo@198.46.134.3] has joined #openttd 04:48:08 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has joined #openttd 04:49:46 <Nothing4You> hey there, i'm using version 1.3.0. is it normal that when i have a station with 6 tracks and i have trains incoming on the first two tracks, intended to distribute them to all six tracks, that they can't see the green signal on the last track? 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD50E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67183.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:19:09 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.77.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:19:22 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.77.143] has joined #openttd 05:23:46 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.193.88.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:51:04 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.77.143] has joined #openttd 05:51:04 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.77.143] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:05:36 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:11:57 <Guest4135> Nothing4You: A screenshot might help here 06:12:15 *** Guest4135 is now known as Mortomes 06:13:43 <Nothing4You> let https://scrot.de/img/A/z/NG1aBhZdm3r4To56K5f_kPUyh.png be my station 06:13:55 <Nothing4You> this way it works fine 06:15:01 <Nothing4You> my previous version had the tracks not in the middle but on the bottom 06:15:20 <Nothing4You> it couldn't fine the free tracks on the upper tracks 06:15:52 <Mortomes> Perhaps some track pieces are missing? Hard to tell with maglev track, can you change it (temporarily) to normal rails? 06:17:23 <Nothing4You> it wasn't maglev when i tried it 06:17:50 <Nothing4You> can't downgrade right now as i'm in a coop session with some friends 06:32:54 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:42:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:54:09 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 06:54:26 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:03:30 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-162.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 07:15:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 07:33:58 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:34:30 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:36:28 *** 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13:19:00 <planetmaker> we return to enter ;-) 13:42:25 <Rubidium> we enter the carriage to return it? 13:45:09 <planetmaker> definitely 13:53:16 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-45-74.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:56:52 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:59:09 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:07:21 <Eddi|zuHause> hmzz... src/route_cmd.cpp:486:14: error: âstruct Orderâ has no member named âSetRouteNodeIDâ 14:07:36 <Eddi|zuHause> what's that about now :/ 14:24:44 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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18:43:34 <V453000> arr 18:44:28 <ZxBiohazardZx> how are they better? 18:44:49 <ZxBiohazardZx> wider options i see 18:46:21 <V453000> better than the original presumably 18:46:28 <V453000> not between each of the provided 6 options 18:49:35 <V453000> check how current opengfx/american roads replacement set tunnels look, ask again :) 18:51:36 <ZxBiohazardZx> XD 18:51:58 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:00:01 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.77.143] has joined #openttd 19:00:01 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.77.143] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:33 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@2002:4d66:7022:0:c54b:462e:6000:8571] has joined #openttd 19:02:26 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:53 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-162.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:10 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:05:33 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:49 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest4248 19:05:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:05:53 <andythenorth> o/ 19:06:10 <V453000> o/ 19:06:36 <V453000> see those andy :) http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5555 19:06:53 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:19 <andythenorth> tunnels eh? 19:07:36 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:09:03 <andythenorth> so forums = nada 19:09:19 <V453000> what is nada? :D 19:09:51 <Eddi|zuHause> pherhaps he meant nadja? :p 19:14:09 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:19:47 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:38 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-162.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:33:37 <andythenorth> so what next? 19:33:56 * andythenorth wonders, where did that rivers patch go? 19:34:09 <V453000> :D 19:34:26 <V453000> go figure how to redraw opengfx snow 19:35:06 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: IceChat - Its what Cool People use] 19:37:19 <andythenorth> why? 19:37:24 <andythenorth> is it wrong? 19:38:20 <andythenorth> hmm 19:38:27 <andythenorth> so these rivers get wider, then narrow again 19:38:31 <andythenorth> kind of funky :) 19:40:05 <andythenorth> so what does this do? 19:40:06 <andythenorth> for (PathNode *path = ¤t->path; path != NULL; path = path->parent, cur_pos++) { 19:40:20 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 19:40:22 <andythenorth> gets Nodes out of the path? 19:40:32 <andythenorth> assuming various conditions 19:42:04 <Eddi|zuHause> starts at the beginning of the path, ends when the path has no items left, every step moves towards the parent path node, and increases a counter 19:43:05 <andythenorth> is the path multiple nodes with links between them? 19:43:15 <andythenorth> or one path, each tile is a node? 19:43:49 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on where the path is created. 19:44:33 <Eddi|zuHause> path is a linked list 19:45:21 <andythenorth> k 19:46:48 <michi_cc> It starts at the end actually. That loop walks the pathfinder result backards from the found target tile to the origin tile. 19:48:07 <andythenorth> trying to figure out why it does this http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4379/intriguing.png 19:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> a Maeander that got too small? 19:50:20 <andythenorth> could be 19:50:37 <andythenorth> or this http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4382/also.png 19:56:40 <michi_cc> The second one is easy. My code changes river width depending on length from source. The riverfinder takes *any* water as the end, including existing rivers no matter which width they have at that point. 19:57:11 <andythenorth> neat 19:57:21 <michi_cc> The first is either a too small meander or (intentionally) caused by the Random() you can find in the code. 19:57:28 <andythenorth> the first one I think is an artefact of default river code 19:57:39 <andythenorth> as it happens even with the broken version of your patch I'm hacking :P 19:57:54 <andythenorth> (I broke it not you) 19:58:07 <michi_cc> Nevertheless I think it looks good and is certainly nothing to fix. The width issue is a problem, but hard to solve. 19:58:20 <Mazur> It's alive. 19:59:04 <andythenorth> michi_cc: what do rivers look like for you near coasts? You posted one screenie, any others? 19:59:20 <andythenorth> maybe I should be trying to fix my compiler, not the patch :P 19:59:33 <michi_cc> You'd somehow have to widen the existing river but at that point the pathfinder data is already gone. 20:00:02 <andythenorth> occasional lakes looks neat to me 20:01:29 <michi_cc> Unfortunately the river mouth is often smaller than the river leading up to it. This isn't an issue with the river widening code though but caused my the TGP generator that seldomly generates the needed four or five adjacent diagonal slopes. 20:01:51 <andythenorth> nah, I never got more than 1 tile on slopes 20:01:59 <andythenorth> I've tried about 20 newgames 20:02:13 <andythenorth> even with valid build locations 20:02:18 <andythenorth> my compile must be bad 20:02:41 <andythenorth> scrub that :( 20:02:43 <andythenorth> just found one 20:04:36 <andythenorth> nice river http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4385/nice.png 20:05:13 <andythenorth> bit odd upstream? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4388/upstream.png 20:05:16 <michi_cc> I've coded the circular tile search to place river at tiles which have the same slope as the center tile. So if you e.g. have a SE slope (down pointing to bottom right screen corner) only the same slopes will get river. I did this to avoid random offshoots into nothing. 20:05:39 <andythenorth> good call, my patch had those offshoots 20:05:43 <andythenorth> looked dumb 20:06:20 <andythenorth> so............... 20:06:33 <andythenorth> can it terraform the coast tile? :P 20:08:52 <michi_cc> In theory... 20:09:43 <michi_cc> In practice it's quite difficult sensibly terraform in way it doesn't look stupid. 20:10:30 <andythenorth> unintended consequences? 20:10:36 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe a "MakeDelta()" function would indeed be sensible? 20:11:30 <andythenorth> I think this stuff makes rivers more fun 20:11:42 <andythenorth> even if there's a bit of unreality 20:11:57 <andythenorth> but the coast tile probably looks too silly to go in a release 20:12:16 <andythenorth> digression, should I draw the diagonal river tiles? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4391/diagonal.png 20:12:40 <andythenorth> I'll regret the offer, but I'll do it if it can be coded at least in theory 20:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> sure, do it... 20:12:58 <Eddi|zuHause> just replace the "corner" sprites 20:13:30 <andythenorth> I should figure out how the tile is actually drawn 20:13:34 <Eddi|zuHause> ships won't go into these corners 20:13:42 <andythenorth> which bits are set for which sprite :P 20:13:52 <andythenorth> ships currently look silly imho on corners 20:14:07 <Eddi|zuHause> that's because they are too long 20:14:35 <andythenorth> this is one reason yes 20:15:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm afraid that is a thing you won't be able to solve 20:16:13 <andythenorth> not worried about that 20:16:21 <andythenorth> use smaller ships is the only solution to that one 20:16:55 <andythenorth> but ship also travels diagonally on rivers that look like they are series of 90' curves 20:17:01 <andythenorth> bit odd 20:17:13 <andythenorth> so I could draw those as diagonals 20:17:20 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, ship "trackbits" are like rail-trackbits 20:17:59 <andythenorth> trying to work out which of the many sprites do what 20:18:03 <andythenorth> there are fricking loads :P 20:18:11 <andythenorth> I had to draw them all :) 20:18:14 <Eddi|zuHause> they are just randomness 20:18:36 <Eddi|zuHause> you want to replace the ones which have a corner-shore 20:18:45 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-110.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:19:05 <LordAro> heyo 20:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause> both the inside and the outside of the corner 20:19:37 <andythenorth> I think that is going to do strange things to (1) river source (2) actual 90' corners, no? 20:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause> in several slightly different randomness variations, so it won't repeat itself that obviously 20:19:43 * andythenorth could just test :P 20:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause> "actual 90° corners" will look like rail curves 20:20:57 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.108.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause> like the pseudo-maeander you showed earlier will look like ___/\___ instead of ___--___ 20:22:04 <Eddi|zuHause> and the spring of the river would not be touched, because it has 3 shores, not two, so different sprites altogether 20:22:41 <andythenorth> how do I compile ottd.grf or whatever it's called these days? 20:23:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the normal compile will take care of that, assuming that grfcodec was found during configure 20:23:17 <michi_cc> You have grfcodec in your PATH and type make in your ottd checkout. 20:24:46 <andythenorth> the dep check should find that the relevant png has changed? 20:24:50 <andythenorth> it doesn't for me :P 20:25:08 <andythenorth> media/extra_grf/rivers/temperate.png 20:25:24 <Eddi|zuHause> go into extra_grf and type "make -B" there? 20:25:48 <andythenorth> no makefile found 20:26:14 <michi_cc> If it works when you touch media/extra_grf/rivers/temperate.nfo the dep check is probably indeed broken (or at least incomplete). 20:26:38 <andythenorth> there's some make target to build the grf? 20:26:40 * andythenorth looks 20:26:53 <Eddi|zuHause> there most likely is 20:26:55 <michi_cc> make file is in objs/extra_grf 20:29:51 * andythenorth looks 20:30:22 *** Guest4248 [~andytheno@2002:4d66:7022:0:c54b:462e:6000:8571] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:09 * andythenorth baffled :) 20:37:44 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-25.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:42:54 <andythenorth> ach, I can just use grfcodec :P 20:43:12 <andythenorth> or not 20:51:25 <andythenorth> make maintainer-clean, configure, make 20:51:31 <andythenorth> might work 20:51:35 <andythenorth> but is slow :P 20:52:59 <juzza1> does the game show true km/h or km-ish units on the purchase menu, when "measuring units" is set to metric? 20:53:52 <V453000> code values are different than shown values 20:54:12 <V453000> e.g. 400kmh in code == 402kmh in game 20:54:43 <juzza1> why is it like that? is the 400kmh in code counted as km-ish, and then calculated to true km/h in the menu? 20:55:01 <V453000> dont ask me about that, I Just know it is that way :) 20:56:10 <V453000> same with with power 20:56:14 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:56:29 <V453000> I dont like it and I think it is totally unnecessary complication but okay, it is that way 20:56:39 <andythenorth> ugh 20:56:45 * andythenorth defeated by the makefile 20:57:32 <juzza1> yeah, im mainly curious why are the values a little off 20:58:07 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:58:33 <V453000> me too actually ... but I believe it is some stupid conversion between some units which is not important at all 20:58:45 <andythenorth> integer maths? 20:58:54 <andythenorth> during conversions? 20:59:09 <V453000> hm 20:59:27 <andythenorth> so I have modified png and nfo files in media/extra_grf 20:59:34 <andythenorth> but hg doesn't see them as modified 21:05:30 <ZxBiohazardZx> maybe andy --> Mercurial doesn't detect changes that change neither the file time nor its size 21:05:54 <ZxBiohazardZx> though unlikely 21:05:57 <andythenorth> I wonder if my checkout is screwy 21:06:07 <andythenorth> I've never had that issue with mercurial before 21:15:13 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q)] 21:15:48 <andythenorth> herp 21:15:49 <andythenorth> bed 21:15:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:23:17 <Eddi|zuHause> juzza1: it's like this because some small but loud minority complained that a 1 mph = 1.6km/h conversion is not exact enough 21:27:09 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 21:27:10 <Eddi|zuHause> it was even worse a while ago, when some rounding issues prevented you to get "round" numbers as displayed speed, like you could either get 99km/h or 101km/h, never 100km/h 21:29:16 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 21:44:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:11 *** koltrast [~koltrast@81-231-174-126-no135.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 21:47:46 <juzza1> ok 21:52:26 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 22:04:43 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:06 <juzza1> in http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles "vehicle_type_id" value range is given as 0 ... 65535, but in http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial/Train_three_part_articulated value in string form (item_icm) is used, can someone with better understanding of the variable edit the wording in the wiki article? 22:06:22 <Zuu> Hmm, resting your feet on the shutdown button on your computer is not a good idea if you want to keep your OpenTTD game open. :-) 22:07:39 <Zuu> At least OpenTTD was very quick to respond on the signal frow Windows to ask applications to close down. :-) 22:17:30 *** goodger [~ben@host86-145-89-90.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:27:14 *** goodger [~ben@host86-145-89-90.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:32:03 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36:45 <LordAro> Zuu: you seem to have an oddly shaped/positioned computer ;) 22:45:58 <Zuu> LordAro: It is placed under my desk to the right. 22:46:53 <Zuu> Actually quite far to the right. Just about the discance that my feet reach when I strech my legs. :-) 22:53:47 <LordAro> but why is the power button within 'foot reach'? mine is approx 50cm off the ground :L 22:56:14 <Eddi|zuHause> it's better if you have a power button that is flat with the surface, instead of exposed 22:56:30 <Eddi|zuHause> makes it less prone to accidental hit 22:58:22 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:59:42 <juzza1> "num_vehs_in_consist / num_vehs_in_vehid_chain" won't this return 1 in a consist consisting of a single engine? 23:15:20 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:16:33 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 23:19:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:38 <LordAro> night all 23:33:24 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-110.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:49:05 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-065-014.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit []