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I can't sleep :( 08:53:44 <Wolf01> *under 08:54:41 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.94.177] has joined #openttd 08:58:28 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:59:30 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-162.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 09:02:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:07:58 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 09:21:17 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22:30 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 09:25:02 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:28:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:30:12 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 09:54:55 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 09:56:12 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-070-202.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:57:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:53 *** parkette [~pjm@apn-77-112-162-101.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:17:44 <juzza1> how does NML determine vehicle IDs if they are not set in the item blocks? 10:19:16 <juzza1> if for example i have a file like this http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/entry/finnishtrainset.pnml does it go numerically from the first to last 10:19:16 <Alberth> quite likely by grabbing unused ones 10:19:59 <Alberth> if you care about assigned ID, I'd assign them 10:20:21 <Alberth> NML may change its policy, and horribly break your code 10:20:43 <juzza1> yeah i probably should 10:20:54 <juzza1> what is the first id if a disable all orignal trains? 10:21:18 <Alberth> sorry, no idea 10:23:36 <planetmaker> IDs start at 0, whether you disable or not disable orginal trains 10:23:43 *** parkette [~pjm@apn-77-112-162-101.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #openttd 10:24:08 <planetmaker> There's actually little point in disabling them, if you define trains anyway. You could simply overwrite. 10:25:07 <planetmaker> only place where it is maybe a bit useful is, when people add the NewGRF to an existing game 10:25:12 <planetmaker> But then all bets are off anyway 10:26:05 <planetmaker> other than that NML keeps track of which IDs are assigned. And takes the next one, if no ID is explicitly stated 10:27:19 <planetmaker> If you do not assign IDs explicitly, you need to keep the order in which vehicles are assigned, or their ID will change. Assigning a specific ID explicitly in code is only needed, if you want to set backward compatibility explicitly 10:27:30 <planetmaker> which may or may not be a good idea 10:28:06 <planetmaker> you're not backward compatible, if you changed the length of any vehicle compared to a previous version 10:28:16 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 10:28:53 <planetmaker> thus in those cases you should break backward compatibility explicitly via setting the proper min_compatible_version in the grf block to the current version 10:29:09 <planetmaker> ^ juzza1 10:29:51 <juzza1> thanks for the info 10:32:51 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 10:32:59 <juzza1> i guess assigning the ids isn't really necessary then, for as long as new vehicles are added after the previous ones in the code 10:34:03 <planetmaker> yes, that should work. Alberth is right though, it cannot be 100% guaranteed, if NML internals change, but ... 10:34:15 <planetmaker> ... you have one thing less to worry about during coding then ;-) 10:34:32 <planetmaker> and as long as releases are bananafied, people get the correct version anyway 10:35:10 <planetmaker> (updating newgrfs generally is... prone with issues) 10:35:19 <planetmaker> updating on running games. but you know that :-) 10:35:41 <planetmaker> good for testing and developing. but not for playing 10:36:18 <oskari89> I've done that :P 10:36:23 <oskari89> For FTS developing 10:36:31 <planetmaker> FTS? 10:36:36 <oskari89> Finnish Trainset 10:36:39 <planetmaker> oh... ^ :-) 10:36:49 <planetmaker> yes, sure. When developing I update, change or so all the time 10:37:06 <planetmaker> But ... I know when that will not give the results. And I frequently also test in completely new games 10:37:50 <juzza1> yeah i usually just load a new game, sometimes you get pretty funny results though if you force the changes to a previous save 10:37:57 <oskari89> In one point, one of my games was so messy that i needed to put some 2500 trains to depot and delete them all 10:38:19 <planetmaker> exactly, juzza1 :-) 10:38:33 <planetmaker> oskari89, yeah. And that's when you actually can also start a new game really. IMHO 10:38:41 <oskari89> Yes 10:39:00 <planetmaker> as I'd then not trust the newly build trains either 10:39:00 <oskari89> That gives the opportunity for that in completely "clean" infrastructure 10:39:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4b27.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:14 <planetmaker> and after all I want to test the current version. Not some possibly corrupted thing 10:39:27 <planetmaker> quak 10:40:46 <oskari89> I hope that the heightmap extension could come some day to OpenTTD 10:40:52 <juzza1> but yeah just to recap, if a go through the route of no ids, then the only way to get rid of original vehicles is to explicitly disable them? 10:41:17 <planetmaker> I think so, yes, juzza1 10:42:24 <frosch123> moin pm :) 10:42:52 *** parkette_ [~pjm@apn-77-114-54-69.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #openttd 10:43:13 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/entry/src/remove_wagons.pnml @ juzza1 10:45:01 <Wolf01> I'm trying to figure out how to make a train pass in minecraft, the main problem is the lack of signals, and I unlinkely will put redstone all around the map 10:45:04 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/entry/src/redefine_engines.pnml <-- mind also that you can assign the ID once to the name. And in other places just use the name to define further parts of the vehicle 10:45:38 <planetmaker> can be helpful, if you want to go for defined IDs. Thus define them once in one place. And not care in all other places of your code 10:46:14 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-84-230.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 10:48:39 *** parkette [~pjm@apn-77-112-162-101.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:48:39 *** parkette_ is now known as parkette 10:57:05 <alluke> how do you do the beep 10:57:43 <planetmaker> *beep* 10:58:05 <alluke> like quote someone 10:58:23 <alluke> @ nick doesnt seem to work 10:58:23 <planetmaker> ? 10:58:36 <oskari89> alluke: read the irc manual :P 10:58:41 <alluke> wheres that 10:58:48 <alluke> trid to find it yesterday 10:58:49 <oskari89> Google it 10:59:05 <Alberth> in particular, the manual of your client :) 10:59:13 <Chrill> mIRC manual: http://mircwiki.rsna.org/index.php?title=MIRC_User%27s_Manual 10:59:25 <Chrill> but youre not using mirc 10:59:26 <Chrill> of course 10:59:43 <Chrill> http://www.irc-wiki.org/Qwebirc 10:59:44 <oskari89> alluke: That earlier Dv15 tging 10:59:47 <oskari89> *thing 10:59:58 <oskari89> We decided that it needs to be that length 11:00:12 <alluke> the length is good 11:00:52 <oskari89> http://www.vaunut.org/kuva/57718 11:01:08 <oskari89> There's no other dimension changes than length 11:01:19 <oskari89> Basically 11:01:40 <alluke> yeah 11:01:41 <oskari89> You can see that from that picture 11:02:31 <oskari89> Alluke: try the latest nightly of Finnish Trainst 11:02:35 <oskari89> *trainset 11:02:39 <alluke> i have it in 11:02:48 <alluke> why is the eit called blue coach 11:02:56 <alluke> instead of express coach 11:03:18 <oskari89> "Sininen vaunu" in finnish 11:03:26 <alluke> i know 11:03:43 <juzza1> because the coder guy doesnt know the wagon specifics... 11:04:07 <oskari89> alluke: try Dr12 with some 20 Ome's behind it :) 11:04:16 <alluke> okay 11:04:33 <oskari89> Kind of nice consist 11:05:10 <oskari89> Doesn't accelerate very much when it's full, but it's kind of nice and realistic consist 11:05:44 <oskari89> Slowly climbing to about 90 km/h 11:05:48 <oskari89> :) 11:06:04 <oskari89> With plenty of smoke 11:06:59 <oskari89> Or try pair of Dv16 :) 11:07:16 <alluke> i have 3 dv12s hauling soeks 11:07:19 <oskari89> With the second engine turned backwards, of course 11:07:49 <alluke> and they take good amout of time to hit 101 11:08:03 <alluke> over 1000 tons loaded 11:08:17 <oskari89> :) 11:08:31 <alluke> btw 11:08:37 <alluke> what happened to that mockup sprite 11:08:38 <alluke> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4502/Ome_comparison.png 11:09:35 <oskari89> Basically the Ome did get it's sprites modifed from Taimn 11:10:14 <alluke> saw that 11:10:34 <alluke> why not use danmacks sprites 11:10:46 <oskari89> He had only that one sprite 11:11:09 <alluke> damn 11:12:31 <oskari89> Most of DanMacK's in-progress sprites are just one sprite :( 11:13:35 <oskari89> Don't know if he has more on his PC, i think so 11:15:20 *** parkette [~pjm@apn-77-114-54-69.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:15:34 <oskari89> @seen DanMacK 11:15:34 <DorpsGek> oskari89: DanMacK was last seen in #openttd 11 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, 56 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Hey all 11:17:21 <alluke> taimn is too bright 11:17:37 <juzza1> :D 11:19:28 <alluke> the blue should be nearly black 11:19:35 <alluke> and copy the bogeys from occ 11:23:48 <oskari89> Alluke: http://www.vaunut.org/kuva/47874 11:24:11 <alluke> yes 11:24:17 <alluke> its way too bright atm 11:24:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6DBB4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:24:38 <alluke> one or two shades darker blue 11:24:43 <oskari89> http://www.vaunut.org/kuva/41366 11:25:36 <alluke> yes 11:27:00 <alluke> it looks way brighter than those in the pics 11:27:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:29:31 <juzza1> make it darker and all views will look the same 11:29:43 <juzza1> the shadow side already uses the deepest blue available 11:32:35 <oskari89> alluke: Maybe you could do some heightmap? 11:32:51 <oskari89> For Finnish scenery, around "your" area? 11:33:08 <alluke> hm 11:33:12 <alluke> how does that work 11:38:40 <oskari89> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21457&sid=8d8d131b6fe699b99378aec99ba107c2&start=480#p1075233 11:39:09 <oskari89> Hmmm 11:39:21 <oskari89> Basically head here first: http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/dem3.html 11:39:28 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:39:42 <oskari89> Then download 3DEM 11:40:06 <oskari89> And follow my instructions on that post 11:44:22 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 11:44:49 <oskari89> Remember those height level scales 11:45:03 <NGC3982> Hey 11:45:06 <oskari89> They _must_ be set correctly 11:45:17 <NGC3982> I just noticed that IKEA's espresso grind is fantastic 11:46:35 <alluke> ... 11:48:22 <NGC3982> Not to ruin your conversation or something. 11:48:53 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:55:02 <alluke> @juzza1 11:55:21 <alluke> tried recolouring the taimn using greyer shades 11:55:52 <alluke> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1004368/N%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6kuva%202013-05-11%20kohteessa%2014.32.23.png 11:57:16 <NGC3982> That looks neat. 11:58:32 <oskari89> Alluke: use this: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/changes/gfx/wagons/wa_taimn.png 11:58:51 <alluke> right 11:59:02 <alluke> but how does that quick one look 11:59:06 <juzza1> you can only use these colors http://www.ttdpatch.de/grfspecs/PalettesAndCoordinates.html 11:59:11 <alluke> i have the palette 11:59:19 <juzza1> your colors are not in the palette 11:59:27 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:03 <alluke> downloaded photoshop palette here http://dev.openttdcoop.org/documents/1 12:00:30 <oskari89> Use dos palette 12:00:36 <juzza1> use the color picker on your blues, they are not in the palette 12:00:41 <juzza1> cant use company colors btw 12:00:50 <alluke> yeah 12:04:39 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 12:04:58 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/ypp0WK1.png 12:05:03 <NGC3982> That's exciting. No gridlines. 12:17:39 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 12:18:51 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 12:21:04 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 12:24:22 <oskari89> alluke: Do post that on the DevZone after you're done :P 12:31:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35:49 <juzza1> alluke: all the psd files are now at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository if you want to look at them or modify 12:36:07 <alluke> ok 12:44:25 <alluke> ihttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1004368/N%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6kuva%202013-05-11%20kohteessa%2015.43.16.png 12:44:30 <alluke> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1004368/N%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6kuva%202013-05-11%20kohteessa%2015.43.16.png 12:45:58 <alluke> aint that the correct palette 12:46:57 <__ln__> however, at Microsoft: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74 12:47:18 <alluke> tl;dr 12:47:40 <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: that doesn't look right 12:48:25 <__ln__> alluke: yeah, somebody should make a video out of it for the attention-spanly challenged people. 12:50:02 <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: he rants about nobody trying to optimise stuff in the windows kernel, because it's not a business interest. whereas people optimise stuff in the linux kernel for "fame and glory" 12:50:51 <alluke> hahaha 12:51:59 <alluke> but doesnt ottd support 32bpp colors 12:52:03 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 12:52:19 <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: yes, but you need 8bpp sprites as well 12:52:28 <alluke> yes 12:52:48 <alluke> whats the problem in drawing 8bpp sprites in 32bpp colors 12:53:00 <planetmaker> palette conversion 12:53:06 <alluke> hmm 12:53:12 <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: the conversion into 8bpp may not use any "magic" colours and stuff 12:53:22 <Eddi|zuHause> people often get that wrong 12:53:42 <alluke> 32bpp grfs work in newer ottd without any hassle 12:54:09 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, openttd automatically switches to 32bpp if the grf requests it 12:54:28 <oskari89> But mixing between those two in same grf... ? 12:55:03 <alluke> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1004368/N%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6kuva%202013-05-11%20kohteessa%2015.54.38.png 12:55:42 <planetmaker> oskari89, nothing wrong with mixing them. Except maybe the artistic POV from making it fit look well together 12:56:06 <__ln__> barely noticeable difference in the screenshot above 12:56:19 <planetmaker> oskari89, indeed you can provide 4x, 2x, 1x 0.5x, 0.25x sprites in both 8bpp and 32bpp all in one newgrf 12:56:38 <planetmaker> I probably forgot the 0.125x zoom level 12:57:25 <planetmaker> (discover the alternative_sprites block :-) ) 12:58:14 <planetmaker> baseline is though: you absolutely MUST provide 8bpp 1x zoom sprites 12:58:22 <planetmaker> everything else is optional 12:59:25 <alluke> stupid oil rigs 12:59:33 <alluke> one dropped production and other one disappeared 13:00:28 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-070-202.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:00:58 <planetmaker> play with opengfx+ industries and disable it 13:01:12 <planetmaker> at least I think it's feasible via parameter 13:01:15 <alluke> i play with pbi atm 13:01:18 <alluke> ye it is 13:04:03 <planetmaker> uh... all water sprites again re-generated... time for a 5 minute tea break :D 13:12:10 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 13:12:33 <alluke> hmm 13:12:37 <alluke> fin-aus today 13:13:54 <__ln__> i didn't know australia is even playing hockey in the world championships 13:14:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't know there is a hockey world championship 13:15:32 <NGC3982> Me neither. 13:15:33 <NGC3982> Sports. 13:15:35 <NGC3982> :/ 13:17:58 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-22.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:18:05 <__ln__> can't avoid hearing about it unfortunately. 13:18:10 * LordAro waves 13:18:29 * Alberth waves back 13:19:16 <LordAro> haia Alberth 13:19:43 <__ln__> sports is meant to keep the spectators focused on something irrelevant so they don't start causing real trouble. 13:19:45 *** Mailaender [~matthias@p4FE5067C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:36:08 <alluke> yay 13:36:18 <alluke> 2-0! 13:37:03 <__ln__> please no, keep this an ice hockey free zone. 13:38:51 <frosch123> what about non-ice hockey? 13:39:38 <alluke> tractor pulling? 13:40:01 <NGC3982> Lady throwing. 13:40:22 <alluke> wheelchair diving 13:41:41 <Mailaender> O.o 13:41:54 <__ln__> brockian ultra-cricket 13:42:02 <LordAro> ^^ 13:42:09 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 13:42:19 <frosch123> cricket is a finish national sports, isn't it? 13:42:28 <alluke> dunno 13:42:36 <alluke> aint it played in intia and pakistan 13:42:44 <alluke> india* 13:43:15 <Mailaender> Cricket is very British? 13:43:58 <LordAro> indeed, wotwot 13:44:11 <frosch123> yeah, i confused it 13:44:23 <frosch123> i meant some other sports, but i cannot remember the name :p 13:44:36 <Mailaender> have you successfully automatised the publishing process on http://www.desura.com/? 13:44:51 <frosch123> i doubt that 13:44:58 <LordAro> great fun - you get to throw lumps of very hard leather at each other at >50mph 13:45:08 <LordAro> if you're good, anyway 13:45:13 <NGC3982> Cricket feels very colonial 13:45:16 <Mailaender> I am currently searching for a solution. We have weekly builds for OpenRA and it annoys me to manually create those MFCs. 13:45:26 <NGC3982> Our university is filled with pakistani people, and thus - cricket. 13:45:42 <frosch123> ah, i meant curling :p 13:45:56 <LordAro> lol 13:46:40 <frosch123> it also starts with c :) 13:48:28 <__ln__> "Brockian Ultra-Cricket is a curious game which involves suddenly hitting people for no readily apparent reason and then running away." 13:49:11 <LordAro> ah, Douglas Adams. Great man 13:49:55 <NGC3982> Indeed. 13:50:18 * NGC3982 fills __ln__ with pan galactic gargle blasters. 13:51:18 <alluke> weird how ln isnt happy when his country succeeds in sports 13:52:21 <frosch123> alluke: he's a spy, he is actually hungarian 13:52:33 <alluke> hah 13:53:06 <alluke> does whois tell his spy name then? :P 13:53:33 <__ln__> alluke: success in sports results in anarchy on the streets. 13:53:38 <alluke> lol 13:53:41 <alluke> i love the anarchy 13:53:44 <alluke> like in 2011 13:53:53 <alluke> i was there in helsinki 13:54:11 <alluke> super fun 13:54:33 <frosch123> helsinki 2011 - what kind of movie is that? 13:54:44 <frosch123> does it involve zombies? 13:54:44 <alluke> no movie 13:54:57 <__ln__> the best part of it when the team returned to finland by plane, and were so drunk some of them couldn't properly walk out of the plane. 13:55:01 <alluke> but there were 100k people on the streets :D 13:55:06 <alluke> yes xD 13:55:14 <frosch123> duty free on board? :p 13:56:14 *** Mailaender [~matthias@p4FE5067C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:56:26 <__ln__> i don't want people to think professional sports isn't all about drinking. 13:58:12 <alluke> i didnt drink anything in 2011 13:58:36 <__ln__> i wasn't talking about you but the athletes. 13:58:46 <alluke> cmon 13:58:49 <alluke> they deserve it 13:59:06 <alluke> work hard party hard 13:59:41 <LordAro> in my experience, most of the 'famous' professional sports players never actually work hard 13:59:51 <LordAro> e.g. english premier league 14:01:05 <planetmaker> probably that's why German teams play in Wembley :-P 14:01:48 <planetmaker> they drank more ;-) 14:02:03 * LordAro doesn't actually follow football much at all 14:02:34 * planetmaker usually doesn't too much either. But it was kinda unescapable so far here 14:02:48 <LordAro> it usually is :L 14:03:00 <LordAro> (is unescapable) 14:03:16 <planetmaker> true 14:08:46 <alluke> dark chocolate with orange and crisps 14:08:48 <alluke> not bad 14:09:17 <NGC3982> I'm so going to get sued. 14:09:40 <alluke> why 14:11:32 <LordAro> did you make a rectangular phone? 14:12:40 <alluke> lovely weather outside and im wasting my life here 14:17:46 <oskari89> alluke: you took my word 14:17:59 <oskari89> Why i'm sitting here 14:18:31 <alluke> sucks to live in an apartment house 14:18:44 <alluke> going outside with laptop would be better than this 14:18:48 <NGC3982> I was uploading a few dj sets on Soundcloud with a pseudonyme 14:19:10 <NGC3982> I haven't really checked the copyright guidelines out.. 14:19:17 <alluke> 3-0 14:19:21 <alluke> eat that austria 14:23:33 *** tycoondemon [~sm0ck@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 14:28:21 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 14:31:42 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:09 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:56:05 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:00:04 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:26 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 15:01:20 *** FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:39 <MNIM> Hmmmh. 15:05:01 <MNIM> How did you specify the town names language again? 15:05:18 <Alberth> in the game options, a dropdown 15:12:04 <planetmaker> And if you want NewGRF townnames: first add that in the NewGRF settings. Then choose the or a townname set provided by that in the game options 15:12:10 <planetmaker> tedious tbh 15:23:19 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-84-230.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 15:36:45 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-22.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:50 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 15:42:05 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-243-17.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:42:38 <LordAro> huh, power went out 15:44:00 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.94.177] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:45:16 <MNIM> Alberth: Yeah, but that was all grayed out in a running game 15:45:26 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.177] has joined #openttd 15:55:05 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-070-202.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 15:56:42 <planetmaker> of course 15:57:35 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl20-238-66.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 16:03:43 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.238.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:22 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 16:07:25 <alluke> fin-aus 7-2 XD 16:25:39 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.11.85.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 16:35:43 <Alberth> People really hate it when you suddenly rename all towns and cities 16:42:52 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:47:37 <planetmaker> openttd also hates accessed null pointers ;-) 16:55:36 <Terkhen> hello 17:01:34 *** confound_ [~hdp@glaive.weftsoar.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:34 *** orudge` [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:59 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@201.47.11.252.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:02:14 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: JdGordon|, @orudge, confound, Hirundo 17:02:35 *** Netsplit over, joins: JdGordon| 17:03:02 <Alberth> hi Terkhen 17:05:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge`] by ChanServ 17:05:04 *** orudge` is now known as orudge 17:05:28 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:06:42 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:06:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:09:14 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.11.85.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:32 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25234 trunk/src/lang/russian.txt (2013-05-11 17:45:09 UTC) 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> russian - 2 changes by perk11 17:45:48 <perk11> :O 17:48:04 <Alberth> one entire commit for you! :) 17:51:59 <planetmaker> :-) 17:57:43 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-70-162.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:53 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.64.51] has joined #openttd 18:06:14 *** Alice4 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:08:39 <planetmaker> hm... my terrain file still had windows palette. What a pain to properly convert :S 18:08:59 <Alberth> write a Python script 18:09:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6DBB4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:09:34 <frosch123> yeah, there are two dozen programs to convert palettes :) write a new one 18:09:36 <Alberth> or fix NML :p 18:09:37 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:43 <frosch123> personally i advertise ttdviewer :) 18:09:51 *** lobstar [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:59 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@254-058-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:05 <planetmaker> Alberth, NML auto-converts to DOS, whatever palette it finds (except if there's only windows input) 18:10:12 *** ivan` [~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:10:26 <planetmaker> frosch123, it does read and write zillion-layer gimp files? :D 18:10:36 <frosch123> oh, no :p 18:11:16 <planetmaker> I actually use ttdviewer to check results :-) 18:11:16 *** brambles_ [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has joined #openttd 18:11:26 <frosch123> \o/ 18:14:25 *** ivan` [~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:11 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: Pixa, Mazur, tokai|mdlx, brambles, lobster, HerzogDeXtEr, confound_, Xaroth 18:18:06 *** Netsplit over, joins: confound_, tokai|mdlx 18:18:16 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:19:03 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:19:11 <planetmaker> @seen pikka 18:19:11 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: pikka was last seen in #openttd 7 weeks, 2 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Pikka> I do not want to watch a half-hour video for the one little piece of information I need and which probably isn't in there anyway 18:21:29 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 18:21:57 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:13 *** LordPixaII is now known as Pixa 18:32:49 <alluke> !oskari89 whats that talgo 18:55:24 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.193.88.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:51 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:57 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-25.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:36:57 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:59:04 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:59:25 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:45 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:25:26 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34:13 <oskari89> Alluke: http://www.talgo.com/pdf/T22in.pdf 20:34:15 <oskari89> See yourself 20:34:50 <alluke> lol 20:35:10 <alluke> why not work on something more important 20:35:13 <alluke> like dr14 20:35:45 <oskari89> Was meant to be Sm5 http://vaunut.org/kuvat/?tt=11&i1=KOEV&i2=999055 20:36:01 <oskari89> I put that priority to low 20:36:05 <oskari89> No need to hurry 20:37:30 <alluke> why did vr choose flirt instead of that 20:37:53 <oskari89> Price? :P 20:38:00 <oskari89> Plug-and play? 20:38:26 <oskari89> I think those were deciding factors 20:39:20 <alluke> flirt has shorter loading times 20:39:24 <alluke> and it looks better :P 20:39:54 <oskari89> Compare Edo to that Talgo22 cab unit 20:40:03 <oskari89> See any similarity? ;) 20:40:55 <alluke> hahahcopycats :D 20:41:09 <alluke> but i liked the concept drawing more 20:41:20 <alluke> if only i could find it 20:41:51 <alluke> http://www.vrgroup.fi/images/5i1M6efAu/5xOlaL80R/Ohjaamovaunu_keula_small.jpg 20:43:16 <Terkhen> good night 21:23:05 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:22 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [] 21:29:55 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.54.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:39:24 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:52:03 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:20 <Wolf01> 'night 21:54:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:55:42 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-243-17.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:07:46 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has joined #openttd 22:07:53 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@84.40.82.221] has quit [] 22:10:14 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.54.92] has joined #openttd 22:19:15 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:22:25 *** sla_ro|master [~slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: connection reset by myself] 22:41:10 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4b27.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:33 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:04 *** plantain_ [~plantain@106.187.96.118] has joined #openttd 23:03:47 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> solenoid.oftc.net quits: plantain, Mazur, xQR, @Rubidium, pugi, Fira, ntx, bb10, TrueBrain, stuf, (+6 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:05:28 *** Fira [artix@server5.tonbnc.fr] has joined #openttd 23:07:14 *** Netsplit over, joins: Mazur, pugi, ntx, szaman, Mek, Kjetil, bb10, Steve^, joho, xQR (+3 more) 23:07:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v Rubidium] by ChanServ 23:17:52 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.51] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:23 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.64.51] has joined #openttd 23:58:20 *** Kabaka [kabaka@equine.vacantminded.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]