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<samu> im trying to test something, to push cpu usage as high as possible with openttd 11:22:37 <samu> i'm able to get 24,99% peak 11:23:47 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-171-251-164.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:23:58 <samu> autosave + whole map screenshot 11:25:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that is how many cores? 11:26:29 <Eddi|zuHause> you can just press fast forward, you know 11:26:35 <samu> 8 11:26:57 <Eddi|zuHause> so you maxed out 2 cores. great 11:27:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think there is much more you can do 11:27:20 <Eddi|zuHause> cargodist may help :p 11:27:44 <samu> fastforward shows some kernel time 11:27:49 <samu> a red line 11:27:55 <samu> what is kernel time? 11:28:12 <Eddi|zuHause> time spent inside the windows kernel 11:28:34 <samu> 15.50% 11:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause> probably display stuff 11:28:48 <samu> with some pausing for autosave, red line disapears 11:28:58 <samu> and cpu goes down to 12.50 11:29:30 <samu> hmm not 12.50, apparenlty 14.60% sorry 11:30:18 <Eddi|zuHause> fast forward should probably implement some kind of framedrop 11:30:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so not every frame is drawn, speeding up some stuff 11:30:45 <samu> gpu usage is spiky too 11:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> that probably depends on the graphics driver 11:31:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and card capabilities 11:31:29 <samu> radeon hd 6850 11:31:48 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of 2D acceleration like 8bpp palette animation is taken out of cards, because not much stuff uses it anymore 11:32:41 <samu> it's maybe windows aero? 11:33:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea what that is 11:41:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A243.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:41:40 <samu> it's the transparency effects on windows borders, the blurr when 2 windows are on top of each other, the preview-animated screen when hovering minimized applications 11:42:06 <Eddi|zuHause> probably not 11:42:10 <Eddi|zuHause> kernel is driver stuff 11:42:16 <samu> when i hover on openttd minimized, i see it animating 11:42:51 <samu> a real-time preview 11:42:59 <samu> :o 11:45:03 <samu> i think this explains 11:45:04 <samu> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-is-Windows-Aero 11:50:49 *** Pecio [~fgh@agje86.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:21 <samu> a nice feature is this 12:02:37 <samu> pess windows key + tab 12:03:03 <samu> hold down windows key, then tab to circulate 12:04:12 <samu> very funny to see, and every window is live-previewing 12:04:17 <samu> of what 's happening 12:10:01 <Eddi|zuHause> so basically it's windows' version of compositing 12:16:08 <samu> yes, I don't know what compositing, but i guess so 12:19:39 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:25:12 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-047.wlan.ru.nl] has joined #openttd 12:34:09 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl20-255-185.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: On the rocks! ^^] 12:36:25 <Eddi|zuHause> well, basically, every application writes its output to its own virtual screen, so the compositing manager can combine these outputs any way they want (mini-previews, transparency effects, wobbly windows, ...) 12:39:34 *** xT2 [~ST2@2.81.255.185] has joined #openttd 12:44:58 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-171-251-164.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:58:45 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59:10 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 13:12:25 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 13:22:03 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A2DD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 13:23:43 <samu> hi 13:24:13 <samu> openttd crashed 13:24:59 <samu> but not the kind of crash that creates crash files 13:25:03 <samu> what do I do? 13:26:16 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.] 13:28:49 <samu> OpenTTD has stopped working 13:30:32 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32:26 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 13:32:39 <samu> oops, sorry colosed windows by mistake 13:32:58 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:36 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 13:34:52 <samu> wait, i post a screenshot 13:36:14 <samu> it appears to have crashed during autosave 13:38:43 <zooks> what message? 13:39:09 <planetmaker> make it reproducable, samu 13:39:14 <planetmaker> "show us" 13:39:23 <samu> OpenTTD 13:39:29 <samu> OppenTTD has stopped working 13:39:30 <planetmaker> the "show us" should then happen in a bug report 13:39:42 <planetmaker> "has stopped working" doesn't qualify as show us 13:39:49 <samu> A problem made this program to stop working correctly 13:39:52 <planetmaker> it needs a step-by-step guide on crashing it 13:40:05 <samu> Windows will close the program and warn u if there's a possible solution available 13:40:12 <samu> [Close Program] 13:41:10 <samu> I see a still image, it was autosaving 13:41:28 <samu> i see a newspaper, some AI celebrating stuff 13:41:33 <samu> a train 13:41:45 <samu> which savegame do I provide u? 13:41:50 <samu> autosave 13:42:03 <zooks> crash.sav crash.log and crash.png would be a good start 13:42:14 <samu> those weren't created 13:42:26 <samu> I have autosave0 to autosave15 13:42:28 <samu> want them all? 13:42:36 <zooks> go up 2 directories 13:42:49 <zooks> are they there? 13:43:09 <samu> yes, but they're from 29th, it was the crash I reported 2 days ago 13:43:18 <samu> it wasn't this crash 13:43:45 <zooks> which version are you using? 13:44:06 <samu> OpenTTD 1.3.1-RC1 for windows 64-bit 13:44:36 <zooks> so if you open autosave, it crashes? 13:44:49 <samu> I haven't tried yet 13:44:52 <samu> let me try 13:44:54 <zooks> try :) 13:46:18 <samu> the last autosave is exactly the same date as the crashed still image 13:46:20 <samu> didn't crash 13:46:27 <samu> should load the previous one? 13:46:56 <samu> ok, 1 month away 13:46:59 <samu> waiting 13:47:01 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47:31 <samu> nop, didn't crash either 13:47:35 <samu> so... hmmm 13:47:45 <samu> I dunno what to do 13:47:51 <zooks> if you can not reproduce then it is hard to fix 13:47:57 <zooks> by the devs 13:48:55 <samu> i set up a game on arctic 2048x2048 with 15 AIs and fastforwarded 13:49:02 <samu> then went away 13:49:11 <samu> when I came back windows came up with the error 13:49:37 <samu> when I noticed 13:50:41 <zooks> no crash.log? 13:51:08 <samu> doesn't windows create a dump file? 13:51:34 <zooks> I don't know anything about windows. I never use it 13:51:57 <samu> crash.log is from 29th 13:52:02 <samu> so not today 13:54:21 <zooks> I'm out of options.. 13:56:59 <samu> i can't open skydrive... grrr my internet is too slow 14:03:02 <samu> windows events logged something 14:03:19 <samu> Nome da aplicação com falha: openttd.exe, versão: 1.3.1.25249, carimbo de data/hora: 0x51968462 14:03:33 <samu> Nome do módulo com falha: openttd.exe, versão: 1.3.1.25249, carimbo de data/hora: 0x51968462 14:04:13 <samu> Código de excepção: 0xc0000005 14:04:39 <samu> pastebin.com 14:06:51 <samu> http://pastebin.com/fS8Ndjfc 14:07:27 <samu> is that of any use? 14:09:30 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 14:13:55 <samu> there's another log, sec... 14:14:27 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:14:40 <samu> here, this one is bigger : http://pastebin.com/EDcV7xcy 14:32:50 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:37:27 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 14:43:43 <samu> do you know what is Event ID: 1000? then Event ID: 1001? 14:44:12 <samu> i'm trying to search on internet 14:45:35 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 14:47:38 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:15 <samu> meh nevermind, think it's not related 14:58:02 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has joined #openttd 15:02:25 <samu> anyone here? 15:03:13 <V453000> you seem to be a man of endless trouble :D 15:03:34 <Sacro> someone call for endless trouble? 15:03:36 <samu> yes, I was trying too look for a list of error codes 15:03:49 <samu> what is 0x63c 15:07:20 <samu> I'm so clueless 15:09:01 <samu> EventType=APPCRASH 15:09:07 <samu> Value=c0000005 15:09:17 <Eddi|zuHause> did we ever have a bug report like this? https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/PYTHON-532 :p 15:09:21 <samu> Value=00000000001c4548 15:09:49 <samu> do you know what the error means? 15:10:01 <samu> I'm still unable to open skydrive to upload... :8 15:11:23 <planetmaker> samu: bug reports belong into the bug tracker. not line by line here 15:11:35 <samu> ok 15:11:37 <V453000> holy hell Eddi :D 15:12:22 <samu> but it limits to 8 MiB 15:12:32 <samu> I have 111 MB to upload 15:13:34 <planetmaker> ehm. if you have 111MB to upload... something's wrong 15:13:57 <samu> they're the autosaves 15:14:09 <planetmaker> an autosave of 111MB?!?! 15:14:19 <samu> no, 16 autosaves total 111 15:14:33 <V453000> lovely 2x2k I assume 15:14:43 <planetmaker> why does it need all 16? 15:15:09 <samu> I don't know which one to send 15:15:16 <Eddi|zuHause> the latest? 15:15:18 <samu> the last one doesn't crash 15:15:23 <planetmaker> try to load. and see which crashes? 15:15:25 <samu> the previous than that doesn't crash either 15:15:29 <samu> ok 15:15:45 <samu> but I hate to stop autosave 15:15:57 <Eddi|zuHause> make a copy of the directory 15:16:00 <samu> or they save on top of each other, how do i do this 15:16:02 <V453000> well you seem to hate many things :) 15:16:05 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:16:08 <samu> have* 15:16:25 <samu> ok 15:16:26 <samu> let me try 15:17:42 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, reads like an awesome bug report. No I don't recall such :-) 15:18:22 <samu> autosave failed 15:18:31 <samu> it doesn't create the autosave folder? 15:18:35 <V453000> Very Disappointed added a comment - May 31 2013 01:27:40 PM UTC Is that all? So blunt answers.. 15:19:18 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 15:20:25 <samu> fixed "autosave failed" error - it needs the autosave folder there 15:22:25 <planetmaker> that's why it was suggested to make a *copy*. And not to rename it 15:24:08 <samu> how long should I wait for each savegame to get an error? 15:24:31 <planetmaker> it's you who found the bug. How shall I know? 15:24:40 <samu> I don't know either 15:25:26 <samu> hmm these saves are 1 year and 11 months game time 15:25:40 <samu> it crashed within 2 years game time, ok let's wait 15:27:05 <zooks> keep saving it until it crashes 15:27:15 <zooks> then upload the save from right before.. 15:28:54 <samu> oh wow... it crashed wow 15:29:01 <samu> wasnt expecting to crash again 15:29:25 <samu> so... about the same time period 15:29:38 <samu> 1 year and... 15:29:45 <samu> 11 months 15:29:52 <samu> that's the same time period infact 15:31:22 <samu> i dont know which savegame to provide, apparently it saves, then crashes right after 15:31:36 <samu> if i load the savegame, it doesn't crash asa 15:31:38 <samu> asap 15:31:50 <planetmaker> samu, you now loaded an autosave. left it running for time X. 15:32:10 <planetmaker> thus provide that autosave you loaded, the instruction on how long to watch before crash. And the crash data windows gives you 15:32:15 <planetmaker> in our issue tracker 15:32:16 <planetmaker> NOT here 15:32:36 <samu> oki 15:34:19 <samu> whiat is the reported version? there isn't 1.3.1RC1 to pick 15:35:33 <planetmaker> pick whatever and mention it in the report 15:36:20 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:37:09 <planetmaker> or reload the form and pick 1.3.1-RC1 15:41:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:44:27 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@212.36.5.170] has quit [Quit: Tvel] 15:44:51 <samu> it is uploading... (hopefully) 15:45:00 <samu> unless my internet doesn't let me 15:46:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A182BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:56:52 <samu> should take 20 more minutes if nothing fails 15:57:12 <samu> brb 16:00:43 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:17 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 16:14:19 <samu> it failed? 16:14:26 <samu> bah my life sucks 16:15:40 <samu> can't even do something useful 16:19:58 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:20:14 *** zooks [~zooks@wlan-177-047.wlan.ru.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A182BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:53 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:31 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 16:37:44 <samu> planemaker 16:38:04 <samu> it uploaded on 2nd try, is the savegame file intact? 16:39:09 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:40:06 <samu> trying to attach screenshot image now 16:42:45 <samu> done 16:42:56 <samu> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5568 16:43:04 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@ip4da760cc.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 17:02:01 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:06:46 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 17:14:00 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4c91.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:25 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:45 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 17:27:53 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:39:23 *** SineTheCreator [~darked@cpe-174-096-023-200.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:41:05 <SineTheCreator> hi all. i've just installed openttd 1.3.0 on windows. it's been a while since i've played. anyways, i can't seem to get tooltips working; when i right-click on buttons nothing happens. 17:41:35 <samu> hover a tip and wait 2 seconds 17:42:16 <SineTheCreator> ahh. is there any way to remove the delay? i remember there being a setting for that in the old days 17:42:29 <planetmaker> in the adv. settings you find a... setting 17:42:39 <planetmaker> minimum is 1 second afaik 17:42:48 <planetmaker> or right click. but that doesn't work in a few cases 17:43:44 <samu> right click hides the tip in my case 17:44:18 <SineTheCreator> planetmaker: it's in the settings now 17:44:22 <SineTheCreator> i found it, thanks guys :D 17:44:37 <SineTheCreator> there is the option to do right-click for tooltips or a delayed hover of X seconds 17:44:45 <SineTheCreator> i wish you could do hover instantly though 17:44:58 <SineTheCreator> those tooltips are pretty useful when you haven't played for a long time :D 17:45:50 <planetmaker> especially the ctrl+click being explained which has a different effect in many places 17:47:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@ip4da760cc.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:49:21 <samu> "pan window when the mouse is at the edge" - this setting never worked right for me 17:49:45 <samu> it scrolls left or right 17:50:26 <samu> but up or down, only if the mouse isn't hovering the top and bottom bars 17:51:03 <glx> of course they are above the map 17:51:20 <SineTheCreator> is there any way to load newgrf's in a game that has already started? 17:52:20 <planetmaker> no 17:52:35 <Pinkbeast> Yes, but you probably don't want to do it. 17:52:58 <SineTheCreator> okay. i'll just start over, thanks 17:53:24 <SineTheCreator> i love this game :D 17:53:35 <planetmaker> :-) 17:54:47 <samu> could i move landscape toolbar when I move the construction toolbar if they're linked? 17:55:17 <planetmaker> feel free to share your adventures in our scenarios and savegames subforum, SineTheCreator ;-) http://www.tt-forums.net/viewforum.php?f=59 17:56:26 <samu> move in tandem, like they're only 1 18:09:12 <SineTheCreator> planetmaker: will do :D thankls 18:09:15 <SineTheCreator> thanks* 18:09:30 <SineTheCreator> one more question - i can't seem to access message settings to disable pop-up messages? 18:10:02 <samu> news messages? 18:10:12 <SineTheCreator> yeah 18:10:16 <samu> those settings moved to advanced settings 18:10:21 <SineTheCreator> ahh, ok. thanks 18:10:26 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:11:37 <SineTheCreator> any way to disable mousescroll zoom? 18:11:43 <SineTheCreator> i'm using an hp mini with a finicky touchpad 18:11:56 <planetmaker> SineTheCreator, the adv. settings allow search ;-) use it 18:12:15 <SineTheCreator> nevermind, found it :D 18:12:35 <SineTheCreator> perfect, thanks! 18:17:30 <samu> eww isn't there a possiblity to change the refit + repay loan behaviour? 18:19:32 <Alberth> change the source code will definitely work 18:20:08 <samu> ok 18:22:29 <samu> if I had' not repayed loan, they would refit and not stop 18:25:04 <SineTheCreator> anyone want to play online? 18:25:13 <SineTheCreator> i'd probably be a crappy opponent, but ... :D 18:25:38 <samu> i want 18:25:42 <samu> but map size must be small 18:25:47 <samu> well, tiny 18:25:52 <samu> because of my connection 18:26:17 <SineTheCreator> okay. how small? 256, 512? 18:26:23 <SineTheCreator> or smaller? 18:26:33 <samu> 64x64 seems to work, not sure about 64x128 18:26:34 <planetmaker> SineTheCreator, there's hundrets of servers online :-) 18:26:45 <SineTheCreator> planetmaker: i guess so, yeah. 18:26:48 <samu> oh, I'm on 1.3.1- RC1 18:27:02 <samu> 128x128 doesn't work 18:27:08 <SineTheCreator> ahh. okay. 18:27:50 <planetmaker> 128^2 for MP is a *real* challange. Starts to become one in single player even :-) 18:27:55 <planetmaker> depending on settings 18:28:12 <SineTheCreator> it's ... tiny, to say the least :D 18:28:24 <Pinkbeast> I find the main difficulty in single player is "oh, it's 1950 and I've done everything, what now?" 18:28:42 <samu> it starts downloading, then stops at about 16 KB dl'ed 18:28:46 <planetmaker> you definitely play maps < 256^2 differently than maps > 256^2 18:28:49 <samu> bad ISP 18:28:53 <samu> :p 18:32:48 <samu> even refreshing server list feels sluggish 18:34:14 <samu> "don't move away down the list, u game!" - playing catch with a server :o 18:35:27 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 18:37:15 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:38 <planetmaker> hm. strange. NewGRF settings window does not respond to delete key. It rather catches and cancels it 18:41:39 <frosch123> works for me 18:42:23 <planetmaker> stranger then even 18:42:37 <frosch123> ah, i guess you have the cursor in the editbox :p 18:42:46 <frosch123> then the editbox get sthe delete ofc 18:43:16 <planetmaker> no 18:44:02 <planetmaker> hm... might be my keyboard settings... as the ^ doesn't open console either 18:44:20 <frosch123> that would also be the case for cursor in editbox :p 18:44:22 <planetmaker> I should compare here with my workplace computer 18:44:32 <frosch123> anyway, do you have the editable newgrf window? 18:44:36 <frosch123> or the not editable? 18:44:42 <samu> i'm checking that 18:44:47 <samu> happening the same 18:44:54 <frosch123> as the not-editable window with no editbox seems to set the focus into the editbox envertheless :p 18:44:56 <planetmaker> not editable version of NewGRF settings. In MP game, yes 18:45:18 <frosch123> click in the list to unfocus the non-existing editbox, and it will respond :) 18:45:20 <planetmaker> ho 18:46:11 <planetmaker> yes. it does 18:47:05 <samu> tag name filter? 18:47:54 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25307 trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp (2013-05-31 18:47:49 UTC) 18:47:55 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Do not focus the editbox in the NewGRF window, if there is no editbox visible. 18:48:29 <samu> what if i check online content? 18:48:40 <samu> cursor goes right to tag name filter 18:48:50 <samu> keyboard cursor that is 18:49:10 <planetmaker> :-) 18:49:21 <planetmaker> a quick and agile frosch. Despite temperatures 18:50:02 <frosch123> :) 18:50:12 <planetmaker> thank you 19:03:30 <samu> hey frosch, there is no crash 19:03:48 <samu> about the bug report - http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5568 19:05:59 <SineTheCreator> how do i rotate airports? 19:07:30 <samu> it is Windows doing the crash report instead 19:10:03 <samu> I can locate the windows error report somewhere in windows event manager, I can attach that into the report 19:10:33 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:47 <planetmaker> SineTheCreator, you don't. Unless you play with the NewGRF OpenGFX+Airports 19:11:54 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.3.31] has joined #openttd 19:16:29 <Alberth> hi hi 19:16:42 <Wolf01> hello :D 19:18:04 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:08 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:23 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:03 <samu> I found some crash log, that's generated by windows though, hope it's useful. I can't navigate to the memory dump file on my system, can you help? 19:26:50 <samu> it's a .mdmp extension, but windows doesn't find it 19:27:23 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:04 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:10 * Rubidium wonders how long it takes till NS cancels the Fyra/Albatros order now that the NMBS has cancelled it 19:55:33 <Alberth> they still didn't? :o 19:55:45 <Rubidium> nope... they are awaiting some report 19:55:58 <Alberth> lol 19:56:13 <Rubidium> http://1.standaardcdn.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2013/05/31/kabels_2.jpg <- the proper way to mount such cables ;) 19:56:44 <Rubidium> http://1.standaardcdn.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2013/05/31/cf3b8d80-ca06-11e2-b9cc-1a8fcc649836_web_scale_0.2238806_0.2238806__.JPG <- new panto ;) 19:57:07 <Alberth> obviously correctly mounted, gives troubles at all times :) 19:58:33 <Rubidium> http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/rtlz/2013/NMBS-fyra.pdf <- press presentation (in Dutch) 19:58:46 <planetmaker> o_O 19:58:48 <Rubidium> I can't come to any other conclusion than that NS will have to cancel the order as well 19:59:53 <Rubidium> seriously... we have 9 Fyras of which 2 do not have that many problems that they can occasionally run some tests with them 20:00:26 <Rubidium> oh, and sorry Wolf01... but I reckon AnsaldoBreda will file for bankruptcy next month 20:00:53 <Wolf01> another one :( 20:05:13 <planetmaker> ui. Looking bad for them, I guess 20:06:09 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:07 <planetmaker> wtf, that report is a list of ridiculousness 20:07:13 *** perk111 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 20:08:11 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 20:08:54 <Rubidium> interesting the Belgians only cancelled it today, and the Dutch might only do it next month, right? 20:08:54 <samu> AHA GOT IT!!! I ninja'ed the crash dump before windows deleted it. 20:09:02 <samu> do you want this? 20:09:52 *** chester_ [~chester@93-80-23-74.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:11:25 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:01 <samu> hmmm? 20:21:44 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:50 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-95-17.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:22:23 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 20:26:51 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 20:27:19 <samu> frosch123: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5568 20:27:54 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:28:18 *** perk111 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:28:33 <samu> if those files are useless, then meh.. I can't think of anything else, sorry 20:28:48 <glx> samu: we need the files generated by openttd 20:29:47 <glx> openttd should show its own crash window 20:31:04 <samu> but it didn't show it 20:31:10 <samu> I know how it looks like 20:32:00 <samu> it happened on my report from 29th 20:32:05 <samu> but not this one 20:38:07 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.115.172.69] has joined #openttd 20:49:08 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25308 /branches/1.3 (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-05-31 20:49:00 UTC) 20:49:09 <DorpsGek> [1.3] -Backport from trunk: 20:49:10 <DorpsGek> - Fix: When overbuilding a reserved track with a non-track station tile, that tile would remain reserved and eventually trigger a crash upon removal [FS#5540] (r25251) 20:49:11 <DorpsGek> - Doc: Update some small parts of the readme (r25278) 20:51:08 <samu> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5568/getfile/9056/OpenTTD%20has%20stopped%20working%20-%20No%20crash%20log.png 20:51:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25309 /branches/1.3 (6 files in 4 dirs) (2013-05-31 20:51:15 UTC) 20:51:22 <DorpsGek> [1.3] -Update: some documentation 20:52:06 <samu> that's how it looks like when it crashed 20:53:59 <samu> crashes* 20:55:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25310 /tags/1.3.1 (10 files in 4 dirs) (2013-05-31 20:55:48 UTC) 20:55:56 <DorpsGek> -Release: 1.3.1 20:57:25 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25311 /trunk (3 files) (2013-05-31 20:57:19 UTC) 20:57:26 <DorpsGek> -Merge: documentation updates from 1.3 20:58:38 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:04:28 <Rubidium> blathijs, heffer_, Ammler: new release poke (tarballs there within the hour, I hope) 21:05:16 <samu> is it 1.3.1 21:05:21 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 21:05:22 <samu> the plain version? 21:08:16 <frosch123> @topic set 1 1.3.1 21:08:16 *** DorpsGek changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.3.1 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | #openttd.dev for dev-talk | #openttd.notice for commit notices 21:09:06 <samu> cool:) I will download in 2 hours 21:09:25 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:20 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:30:03 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-045-192.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:34 <frosch123> night 21:30:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4c91.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:02 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-045-192.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 21:39:38 *** samu [~oftc-webi@39.73.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:40 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:03:16 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:12 *** chester_ [~chester@93-80-23-74.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:32:06 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 22:34:44 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:32 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:37:35 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:11 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:50:05 <SineTheCreator> :/ 22:50:33 <SineTheCreator> i went through all the trouble of creating a rail steel supply chain and then two of the three iron mines dry up just as soon as its operational 22:50:35 <SineTheCreator> epic fail 23:11:07 <Wolf01> 'night 23:11:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:12:52 *** ZxBiohazardZx [~IceChat77@5ED05D6D.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Life without danger is a waste of oxygen] 23:40:25 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:35 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@vpnx165.nemendur.hi.is] has joined #openttd 23:44:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A243.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:11 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:58 *** snorre [~snorre@c3D04BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:52:35 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@vpnx165.nemendur.hi.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:55:19 *** Extrems1 [borgs@24.157.137.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55:48 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:56:02 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd