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00:00:56 <Xaroth|Work> iirc there was some kind of option you could use when upgrading 00:00:57 <Xaroth|Work> to keep the train its length 00:04:35 <Dr_Tan> why aren't there one way signs that aren't signals? 00:04:42 <Dr_Tan> those would be handy in some layouts 00:04:57 <Dr_Tan> just do not enter signs 00:06:45 <Xaroth|Work> I can't think of a layout that requires such signs 00:07:08 <Xaroth|Work> good signal placement should compensate 00:09:56 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CAE7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 00:36:10 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:40:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CAE7.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AC6D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:53:44 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 00:54:18 *** Thetoy [~Thetoy@82.211.218.220] has quit [] 00:59:07 <Elukka> anyone know if cargodist (which is in trunk, yay!) can now deal with non non-stop orders? 00:59:30 <Elukka> i noticed if a train stops at a station where it's not specifically instructed to it gets an "implicit" order to stop there, which leads me to think the answer is yes 01:01:07 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that was the main intention behind them 01:01:10 <Elukka> awesome 01:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause> but try to avoid situation where a train occasionally misses an inbetween stop (e.g. going to depot behind a station) 01:05:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:06:46 <Elukka> not a problem, i don't have maintenance on 01:06:59 <Elukka> and vehicles never expire but i still get messages that they're too old... did i miss a setting to disable those? 01:12:19 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately, you can only disable all vehicle messages, not the age message individually 01:12:38 <Eddi|zuHause> at least the last time i played 01:22:26 <Elukka> hm 01:23:40 <Elukka> one more in this barrage of questions! did something change in FIRS to make industries process cargo instantly? 01:23:47 <Elukka> i think it used to do it with a limited rate and i preferred that 01:26:04 <Eddi|zuHause> no, FIRS never did that 01:26:19 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you're thinking of ECS or PBI 01:26:48 <Elukka> weird, i was sure it did 01:27:03 <Elukka> in game the industries even have a field for "Cargo waiting to be processed" 01:27:23 <Elukka> an old thread about what it sets out to do mentions it's gonna do this... maybe it was just never implemented? 01:27:29 <Eddi|zuHause> if there was ever anything that did NOT change during FIRS development, it's that andy hates stockpiles :p 01:28:36 <Elukka> "FIRS will be more TTD-ish but eventually it will take a little while for processing industries to process output from input." 01:28:54 <Elukka> release log also mentions a bug fixed relating to cargo processing at some point 01:29:41 <Elukka> i remember the no stockpile thing but this isn't really about stockpiles :P 01:29:50 <Elukka> https://www.dropbox.com/s/d3gez5ropsko7ck/firs.png 01:30:47 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what you're trying to tell me 01:31:52 <Eddi|zuHause> processing speed and stockpiles are technically very closely related. and even if there was some vague idea in the beginning, there have never been serious plans developed out ot it 01:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause> and the "cargo waiting to be processed" is a misfeature of the industry specs 01:33:27 <Eddi|zuHause> it appears as soon as the production callback is used, and the newgrf has no way to hide it again, when it serves no purpose 01:35:24 <Elukka> i see 01:36:48 <Elukka> it's most likely i just remember wrong 01:49:10 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c83-253-81-248.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 02:15:36 *** pugi_ [~pugi@host-091-097-012-171.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 02:21:31 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-183-182.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:32 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 02:30:18 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-012-171.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 02:58:34 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl6-255-75.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 03:04:03 *** ST2 [~ST2@188.250.229.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:25:07 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.132.153] has joined #openttd 04:20:05 *** roadt__ [~roadt@223.240.108.56] has joined #openttd 04:27:16 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.135.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:36:03 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66A7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD49C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:20:19 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.132.153] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:18:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25593 /trunk/src/network/core (3 files) (2013-07-13 06:18:16 UTC) 06:18:23 <DorpsGek> -Cleanup: remove a few stale #defines 06:25:22 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@2002:4d67:4d11:0:ff:dfc1:6e52:e395] has joined #openttd 06:29:32 <andythenorth> Moin 06:31:26 <planetmaker> moin 06:32:23 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7f76.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:32:28 <planetmaker> quak 06:32:41 <frosch123> moin 06:32:47 <frosch123> more sleepless people :) 06:33:07 <planetmaker> yeah :-) 06:34:00 <Rubidium> nah... 06:39:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25594 /trunk/src/script/api (3 files) (2013-07-13 06:38:54 UTC) 06:39:01 <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish: some Doxygen warnings/errors for scripts 06:41:26 <andythenorth> Early to bed, early to rise 06:41:59 <frosch123> you have toddlers, you have no power about your wake time 06:42:10 * andythenorth wonders if ogfx has some 1 tile building to repaint for FIRS trading post 06:44:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25595 /trunk (5 files in 2 dirs) (2013-07-13 06:44:22 UTC) 06:44:29 <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish: move the Doxygen .tag files into objs, so they are automatically ignored and removed upon mrproper/distclean. Furthermore remove the gamedocs folder too 06:44:59 <planetmaker> not sure, andythenorth... maybe the saloon? 06:45:26 *** adit [~adit@39.209.27.79] has joined #openttd 06:49:47 <andythenorth> planetmaker: thanks will look later 06:50:42 <frosch123> hmm, never saw the "monthly supply" thingie in the station view 06:50:47 <frosch123> is that a cargodist thing? 06:51:19 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 A7 06:51:19 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 167 06:55:48 <planetmaker> lol, the building I had in mind is the tropical church, andythenorth :-) 06:56:54 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/entry/sprites/png/houses/trop_4604_church.png 06:59:47 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@2002:4d67:4d11:0:ff:dfc1:6e52:e395] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:05 <Dr_Tan> are there any grfs that replace food/goods demand from houses with market buildings that appear in cities with large enough populations and demand goods and food? 07:04:12 <Dr_Tan> that would make delivering them much less irritating 07:04:43 *** Dr_Tan is now known as Nat_aS 07:05:09 <planetmaker> dunno. maybe you draw some? 07:05:10 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C356D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:07:46 <Supercheese> FIRS has food markets 07:08:07 <planetmaker> even the default game has them. 07:08:08 <Supercheese> but of course default houses still want goods/food 07:08:40 <planetmaker> there's a 2x2 building by default which very much looks like a supermarket 07:08:51 <Nat_aS> I was thinking having them always be present in any city above X size 07:08:59 <Nat_aS> like the water tower 07:09:18 <planetmaker> the water tower is also not necessarily present ;-) 07:09:41 <Nat_aS> well in towns with desert tiles it is 07:09:45 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 07:09:52 <planetmaker> even there not 07:10:10 <Nat_aS> oh yeah, I'm so used to playing built maps 07:10:12 <planetmaker> the tower is an industry. without it present and having water delivered to, a desert town won't grow, though 07:10:13 <Nat_aS> I never play random 07:10:28 <planetmaker> but you can create in SE a BIIIIG desert map w/o tower 07:10:43 <planetmaker> possibly even ingame byfunding building construction 07:10:44 <Nat_aS> SE? 07:10:51 <planetmaker> scenario editor 07:10:57 <Nat_aS> ahh 07:12:25 <Nat_aS> would be nice if every town had a market for food collection 07:12:36 <planetmaker> make a house newgrf 07:12:40 <Nat_aS> and once it got big enough a shopping mall would be added for goods collection 07:12:53 <planetmaker> or first make the sprites 07:13:00 <Nat_aS> would simplify triatary goods delivery 07:13:16 <Nat_aS> I hate it when towns stop accepting goods because a house got moved 07:30:20 <planetmaker> ah... with k3diff the branch updating works nicer than with vimdiff :-) 07:31:15 <Rubidium> frosch123: rather from the flow logger, but yes... cargodist could be seen as its origin (just like implicit orders) 07:31:48 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:42:57 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:46:41 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:47:32 <andythenorth> planetmaker: that is a good sprite to adapt thanks 07:47:50 <planetmaker> very welcome :-) 07:48:35 <V453000> andythenorth: are there any other new cargoes other than coffee? 07:48:51 <andythenorth> No 07:49:07 <andythenorth> All others were already in ttd 07:49:21 <V453000> ... 07:49:33 <V453000> I mean any other cargo new in firs which nuts doesnt support yet 07:49:52 <planetmaker> he meant the new economy "Heart of Darkness" 07:50:01 <planetmaker> other economies didn't change 07:50:07 <V453000> oh :) hm 07:50:09 <V453000> well still 07:51:04 <andythenorth> Typing on ipad slow 07:51:05 <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/index.php?title=CargoTypes&diff=3423&oldid=3357 <- looks like only coffee 07:51:23 <andythenorth> I binned frvg as well 07:51:28 <andythenorth> Uses frut now 07:52:05 <V453000> omg 07:52:19 <V453000> well thats fine, frut is what the ttd tropic one is right? 07:52:37 <planetmaker> yeah 07:52:53 <andythenorth> Yup 07:53:37 <V453000> good then that needs no fixing :D 07:54:13 <andythenorth> Bbl -going gromit hunting 07:55:25 <andythenorth> http://www.gromitunleashed.org.uk/ 08:01:48 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:03:27 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:33:37 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C356D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 08:47:34 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 08:52:36 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 08:55:05 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 08:55:52 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 08:56:43 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 09:04:16 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-134-225.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:17 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25596 extra/masterserver_updater/src/contentserver/handler.cpp (2013-07-13 09:05:11 UTC) 09:05:19 <DorpsGek> [MSU] -Fix [FS#5635]: The content server would terminate the connection after 2 minutes if it weren't sending enough data fast enough to fill the operating system's send buffer. For example the content list fits completely in the operating system's send buffer, and as a result it did nu update the 'last activity' counter which meant it would just close the 'idle' network connection 09:10:24 *** Ristovski [~rafael@ppp-seco11pa2-46-193-128.78.wb.wifirst.net] has joined #openttd 09:16:38 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:18:27 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 09:22:19 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:22:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:23:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-234-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:23:34 <Wolf01> hello 09:26:17 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25597 /trunk/src/network (3 files in 2 dirs) (2013-07-13 09:26:11 UTC) 09:26:18 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5635]: [Content] When the server closed the connection, the client would for eternity try to read a packet and never timeout making it impossible to reconnect 09:26:28 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 09:27:46 <Rubidium> buongiorno Wolf01 09:40:31 <Wolf01> strange, when I check the time in the morning is always 11:38, I think is a clear signal to see that movie... 09:40:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CAE7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:55:11 *** adit [~adit@39.209.27.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:51 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 09:57:43 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:59:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r25598 trunk/docs/admin_network.txt (2013-07-13 09:59:09 UTC) 09:59:16 <DorpsGek> -Doc: Implications of the asynchronous processing of the rcon content command on send time of ADMIN_SERVER_ADMIN_RCON and ADMIN_SERVER_ADMIN_RCON_END packets 10:01:14 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: got a situation for that? 10:01:20 <Xaroth|Work> so I can test it 10:01:28 <planetmaker> rcon content update 10:01:50 <Xaroth|Work> k, will check later today 10:01:51 <planetmaker> rcon content select * 10:01:56 <planetmaker> rcon content download 10:02:00 <planetmaker> would do as well, I guess 10:02:10 <planetmaker> snytax might slightly vary. written by heart 10:02:51 <Xaroth|Work> but that still outputs to rcon packets? :o 10:03:10 <Rubidium> probably not 10:03:17 <Xaroth|Work> thought so 10:03:38 <Xaroth|Work> as the RCON_END packet is sent after the redirect is reset to normal 10:04:40 *** adit [~adit@39.214.60.220] has joined #openttd 10:14:05 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by rubidium :: r25599 /branches/1.3 (24 files in 9 dirs) (2013-07-13 10:13:55 UTC) 10:14:06 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: [1.3] -Backport from trunk: 10:14:07 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Admin] End-of-rcon data could not be determined reliably for any rcon command [FS#5643] (r25598, r25588, r25587) 10:14:08 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Content] When the server closed the connection, the client would for eternity try to read a packet and never timeout making it impossible to reconnect [FS#5635] (r25597) 10:14:09 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Script] Changing the script difficulty level in-game would also change the settings using the default even though they were not allowed to change in-game [FS#5644] (r25592) 10:14:10 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: (...) 10:19:18 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-012-171.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:23:16 *** roadt__ [~roadt@223.240.108.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:27:07 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:42 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25600 /trunk/src/lang (38 files in 2 dirs) (2013-07-13 10:28:31 UTC) 10:28:43 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 10:28:44 <DorpsGek> traditional_chinese - 8 changes by siu238X 10:28:45 <DorpsGek> japanese - 287 changes by guppy 10:28:46 <DorpsGek> russian - 1 changes by Lone_Wolf 10:28:48 <DorpsGek> tamil - 6 changes by ganesh 10:29:13 <NCG3982> My god, the eye tracking documentation for the Galaxy S4 is horrible. 10:32:16 *** adit [~adit@39.214.60.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:15 <Rubidium> ã·ã¥ãŒã·ã¥ãŒ ;) 10:34:16 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.149.100.bredband.tre.se] has joined #openttd 10:34:44 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 10:35:21 <planetmaker> hehe 10:37:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25601 /branches/1.3/src/lang (6 files) (2013-07-13 10:37:17 UTC) 10:37:23 <DorpsGek> [1.3] -Backport from trunk: language updates 10:38:36 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 10:40:05 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25602 /branches/1.3 (6 files in 4 dirs) (2013-07-13 10:39:57 UTC) 10:40:06 <DorpsGek> [1.3] -Prepare: for 1.3.2-RC2 10:45:58 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25603 /tags/1.3.2-RC2 (3 files in 3 dirs) (2013-07-13 10:45:52 UTC) 10:45:59 <DorpsGek> -Release: 1.3.2-RC2 10:47:52 <Eddi|zuHause> eye tracking is a really dangerous thing... the first thing that will come is that advertisments get paid only if they were seen, the next thing the popups will appear where you're currently looking at, and it can only get worse from that.... 10:48:31 <Eddi|zuHause> imagine google glass: "you looked at this woman's ass, want to look her up on facebook?" 10:48:48 <V453000> :D 10:48:52 <V453000> thats nice 10:49:35 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly, but you will notice how often you really look at women's asses. 10:49:59 <Eddi|zuHause> and what if your gf/wife has an app that gets this notice from your app? 10:50:11 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:01 <V453000> meh then :D 10:51:26 <Eddi|zuHause> or imagine: "this person looks at kids a lot, alert the authorities that he might become a child molester" 10:51:55 <NCG3982> Eddi|zuHause: Oh god, true. 10:52:29 * Rubidium was rather thinking about: "you saw crime XYZ happening and did nothing, you are an accomplice" 10:52:36 <Eddi|zuHause> or in general "this guy is 98% likely to commit a crime" 10:54:49 <Eddi|zuHause> there was an american supermarket chain which noticed things like "if a woman buys unscented body soap, and a month later buys vitamin pills, it's 99% probability she's pregnant" and then sent out congratulation letters 10:55:07 <Eddi|zuHause> and then a guy complained that his 14 year old daughter got such a letter 10:55:30 <Rubidium> ... which was incidentally pregnant as well (?) 10:55:58 <Eddi|zuHause> the father turned really quiet the next day :) 11:00:08 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:00:15 * Rubidium is happy they don't seem to be doing such things here 11:00:47 <Rubidium> generally they are harshly frowned upon when they do such things 11:01:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you really think they're not doing that? 11:01:27 <planetmaker> they're harshly frowned upon when someone makes it public that they do such things 11:01:32 <Rubidium> they're doing it to some extent 11:01:33 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe not sending out personalized letters, but reorganizing store layouts and stuff 11:02:13 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: but that is generally datamining without getting personal information like address and name 11:02:31 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:28 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: think of what kind of data they collect to determine your credit rating 11:04:09 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 11:04:21 <Rubidium> I know of one time when they willingly broke the rules and weren't punished for it. Someone was putting rat poison into some food, so everyone that bought food they had a suspicion of containing rat poison was contacted by the supermarket (which is IMO the right use of such data) 11:05:01 <planetmaker> that's somewhat different, yes 11:05:09 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: here all debs are registered at some organisation, including whether you paid them on time or not 11:06:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i mean things like "this guy bought a cheaper brand of cigarretes than he used to" 11:15:21 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:04 * Zuu_ got no customer card for groceries, though I usually pay using thr same card, so if they record a token based on my card Id they could track me whithout me getting any bonus. :p 11:26:29 <Eddi|zuHause> about half the time i pay in cash, but that probably doesn't help a lot either 11:27:04 <planetmaker> they likely do that, Zuu_ :-) 11:31:07 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:37 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 11:35:09 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: it's recorded under "the guy that pays in cash" 11:35:52 <frosch123> http://xkcd.com/1105/ 11:36:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure if you're running a basic pattern matching algorithm over a bunch of cash paid bills with the items that were bought, you can easily split them up between individual people. assuming they buy there regularly 11:42:26 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: that only works if there are two guys with very similar license plates :) 11:44:15 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 11:45:56 <Eddi|zuHause> oh crap, tiny insect season has begun 11:48:21 <frosch123> get more big insects 11:49:32 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@109.58.149.100.bredband.tre.se] has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:50:29 <Eddi|zuHause> or just don't open the window for the next 6 weeks 11:50:31 <zooks> brr, thinking of the enormous bugs in my room in Zimbabwe 11:51:15 <Eddi|zuHause> we had a rather big bug while picking cherries last week 11:51:29 <Eddi|zuHause> about this long <----------> 11:51:48 <Eddi|zuHause> and green! 11:51:51 * frosch123 switches to 320x200 resolution 11:51:56 <frosch123> green is fine! 11:52:08 <Eddi|zuHause> metallic green 11:52:09 *** roadt__ [~roadt@223.240.108.56] has joined #openttd 11:52:18 <frosch123> unicorn-coloured? 11:52:34 <Eddi|zuHause> lack of comparison :p 11:52:50 <zooks> http://i.imgur.com/f6eV9cz.jpg 11:53:03 <Eddi|zuHause> but unicorns are usually described as bright white :) 11:53:24 <frosch123> zooks: that looks like 20 cm 11:53:33 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: most are rainbow 11:53:35 <frosch123> or pink 11:53:57 <zooks> frosch123, with antennas I'd estimate it on 15cm 11:54:14 <zooks> it was on my bed :) 11:54:32 <Eddi|zuHause> wait, you didn't actually get a ruler out? 11:54:39 <Xaroth|Work> oeh, grats on r25600 11:54:58 <zooks> no, I squashed it with a large book 11:55:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the poor thing :( 11:58:37 <zooks> Is it true that the tour the France is being denied by the German media? 11:58:57 <planetmaker> "there is no tour de France"? :-P 11:59:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yes-ish, but that has been going on for years now 12:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know how it is this year, but one of the previous years when the doping scandals stacked up, channels stopped the live broadcast 12:00:32 <planetmaker> who cares anyway? 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16:19:32 <V453000> cause I made a railtype with compatible_railtype_list: ["UNIV", "RAIL", "ELRL", "MONO", "MGLV", "WETR", "UNI1", "UNI2","UNI3","UNI4","UNI5","UNI6","UNI7","UNI8"] and powered the same, but neither of those tracks are compatible with it 16:19:34 <V453000> with nuts or without 16:20:00 <V453000> thing is http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2391/ 16:21:30 <V453000> UNI1-UNI8 are various new rails but for some reason I cant get any trains to be able to drive on them 16:21:35 <V453000> why :s 16:21:59 <planetmaker> you don't need to re-define them. You just need to list their labels as compatible 16:22:15 <planetmaker> and / or as powered on. Or introduced by / introducing 16:22:25 <V453000> I did both of them 16:22:30 <V453000> not the introducing ones though 16:22:43 <V453000> but the UNIV rail I have NUTS works without that too 16:23:09 <V453000> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2392/ 16:24:03 <planetmaker> you might want to go even further. And also add some labels from other railway sets 16:24:37 <V453000> it doesnt work atm so cant do that yet 16:24:40 <planetmaker> universal rail surely needs neither 'introduces railtype XX' nor 'requires railtype XXX being introduced' 16:25:19 <V453000> with only the rail newGRF loaded, no trains from rail,elrl,mono,or mglv can drive on it 16:25:24 <planetmaker> what you *might* set is the 'alternative_railtype_list' - a list of railtypes which it will act as plug-in for, if they are not defined 16:26:00 <planetmaker> oh, hm. yes 16:26:18 <planetmaker> you need to set the compatibility of the *other* railtypes to the universal 16:26:28 <planetmaker> so indeed you need to define that property for those 16:27:02 <V453000> right, so I need to re-define all of the railtypes too 16:27:14 <V453000> hmm 16:27:18 <planetmaker> you can really do that very simplistic: only that single property need be set 16:27:26 <planetmaker> that suffices 16:27:48 <planetmaker> no graphics, no knowledge about any other property needed 16:27:58 <V453000> right 16:28:10 <planetmaker> just re-defining a single property. :-) 16:28:13 <V453000> will try, question number 2 inc soon :P 16:28:52 <planetmaker> btw, I'd guard that by a check for the railtypes availability 16:29:02 <planetmaker> as in the example on http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Railtypes 16:29:12 <planetmaker> first paragraph 16:29:49 <V453000> mhf 16:32:10 <V453000> nice, re-defining seems to work 16:32:48 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2393/ 16:33:02 <planetmaker> untested and likely buggy, though ;-) 16:33:26 <V453000> oh like that 16:33:26 <V453000> hmm 16:34:11 <V453000> I have to admit I dont care about people who add too many railtypes together but hm 16:40:51 <planetmaker> well... but makes it more fail-proof 16:41:02 <planetmaker> with little effort, I'd think 16:41:15 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@2002:4d67:4d11:0:bd90:698:dbe0:7ace] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41:45 <V453000> I might try to add it after I have something working :) 16:41:58 <planetmaker> that's a good idea surely :-) 17:00:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@101.187-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 17:01:00 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:42 <V453000> which might be the case very soon :) 17:04:43 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 17:11:09 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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19:21:12 <planetmaker> when all of us talked in the afternoon 19:21:16 <Xaroth|Work> i uploaded patches to the flyspray 19:21:19 <planetmaker> well... 17:xx that day 19:21:26 <planetmaker> :D 19:21:42 <dihedral> dih uploaded pasts :-P 19:21:59 <Xaroth|Work> i did a few pastes as well 19:22:01 <dihedral> Xaroth|Work, used 'payload' and public methods, dih used d1 and private methods :-D 19:22:14 <Xaroth|Work> but the final version was sent to flyspray 19:22:22 <dihedral> none the less Xaroth|Work you did good work :-) 19:22:24 * dihedral likes 19:22:36 <planetmaker> sorry, if I then mis-attributed the patch, dihedral 19:24:02 <planetmaker> you win a beer in two weeks :D 19:26:53 <dihedral> planetmaker, nah - that's fine, i just wanted to point it out, that's all 19:26:58 <dihedral> just in case... 19:27:30 <dihedral> you never know if there were intentions to commit a patch from one person and accidentially swapped the two patches ;-) 19:32:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v Alberth] by ChanServ 19:32:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v SmatZ] by ChanServ 19:32:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by ChanServ 19:32:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 19:32:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 19:32:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 19:32:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v orudge] by ChanServ 19:40:59 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 19:43:03 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:37 <dihedral> to be honest, i enjoy the admin port receiving commits :-P 19:46:54 <dihedral> so that alone made my day :-) 19:47:52 <dihedral> planetmaker, you did forget though about the completion of the GameScript patch... but i do think i need to revise it :-P 19:48:25 <planetmaker> :-) 20:01:20 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 20:06:10 <dihedral> good night :-) 20:06:19 <planetmaker> g'night dihedral 20:22:07 <frosch123> @topic set 1 1.3.1, 1.3.2-RC2 20:22:08 *** DorpsGek changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.3.1, 1.3.2-RC2 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | #openttd.dev for dev-talk | #openttd.notice for commit notices 20:26:04 <planetmaker> good night from here, too 20:29:29 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 20:37:41 *** avdg [~avdg@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:37:50 *** avdg [~avdg@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:41:56 *** mindlesstux [~mindlestu@raspberrypi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 20:44:14 <frosch123> night 20:44:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7f76.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: quak] 20:56:29 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:56:34 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:56:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by ChanServ 21:03:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19B15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:11:17 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@205.185.119.44] has quit [Server closed connection] 21:11:30 *** ccfreak2k_ [~ccfreak2k@haqua.4chan.fm] has joined #openttd 21:11:47 *** ccfreak2k_ is now known as ccfreak2k 21:14:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:18:50 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:23:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19B15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:14 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:30:58 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:45:11 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:11 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:03:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 22:04:04 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 22:07:03 <Wolf01> 'night 22:07:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:08:51 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-74-146.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:25:48 *** Arranca56 [~arrebatam@188.250.3.195] has joined #openttd 22:34:43 <Elukka> where do you get old nightlies? 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