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04:56:55  <maddy_> morning folks
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05:32:38  <planetmaker> moin
05:39:15  <maddy_> 4
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06:29:24  <maddy_> did anyone try my patch yet?
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07:00:23  <dihedral> good morning
07:02:36  <maddy_> morning
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07:15:42  <LordAro> /o
07:20:00  <LordAro> i'm doing something wrong with extern, can someone tell me what? :L http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2533/
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07:24:23  <planetmaker> maddy_, I didn't have time to actually test it, it looks very clean. There are few places where even a few more doxygen comments would be handy (rail_map.h, logic_signals.cpp).
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07:29:38  <maddy_> planetmaker: ok, thanks for the tips
07:30:15  <planetmaker> from first-time patches it's as well-documented though as I've seen so far :-)
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07:35:50  <dihedral> planetmaker, that is the 'initial effort'
07:35:51  <dihedral> :P
07:37:36  <peter1138> hi
07:37:51  <peter1138> Can I go back to bed?
07:39:23  <maddy_> peter1138: go ahead
07:39:53  <peter1138> \o/
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09:59:40  * LordAro pokes a random online dev http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2533/
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10:47:05  <Rubidium> LordAro: what if the news caused the crash?
10:47:47  <Rubidium> also... returning stuff on the stack is bad
10:47:59  <LordAro> yeah, still  getting that warning
10:48:13  <LordAro> along with my misuse of extern
10:48:18  <LordAro> not sure what to do about it though
10:49:15  <LordAro> s/misuse/wrong use/ :L
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10:52:20  <LordAro> although, personally i think all of news_gui.cpp needs refactoring
10:52:29  <LordAro> lots of non-gui (window) stuff in there
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10:58:49  <LordAro> Rubidium: any clues for me regarding the extern?
10:58:59  <LordAro> or your other points, for that matter
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11:43:35  <DanMacK> Hello all
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11:54:03  <Lakie> Hi DanMacK.
11:54:21  <DanMacK> Hey Lakie, LTNS
11:54:36  <Lakie> Yeah, I know...
11:55:03  <Lakie> Good work on the new Finnish steamer sprites. :)
11:55:19  <DanMacK> ty
11:56:31  <Lakie> Nice to see that project developing and playable, heh.
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11:59:03  <DanMacK> yeah
11:59:14  <DanMacK> Speaking of the FTS...  Hey Oskari :P
11:59:48  <Lakie> Heh.
12:00:20  <oskari89> DanMacK: Hello, and Lakie: Hello to you too, long time no see :P
12:00:23  <oskari89> :)
12:01:05  <Lakie> Hi / Bye, going shopping...
12:01:24  <Lakie> (Convention tomorrow you see).
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12:35:01  <planetmaker> calc 2**16
12:35:06  <planetmaker> @calc 2**16
12:35:06  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 65536
12:37:04  <LordAro> you needed a calculator for that? :p
12:37:50  <__ln__> @calc 1<<15
12:37:50  <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
12:38:33  <planetmaker> 1<<15 works so badly in bash ;-)
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12:44:50  <Belugas> hello
12:46:01  <LordAro> /o
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14:13:51  <maddy_> tt-forums has been pretty slow lately
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14:14:54  <DanMacK> hey alluke
14:15:11  <alluke> hi dan
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14:29:55  <LordAro> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2534/ <-- "undefined reference to _<...>_news" i don't like externs, can someone give me an idea what i'm doing wrong?
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15:02:22  <Eddi|zuHause> just include the appropriate header file?
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15:18:13  <LordAro> i have, as far as i can tell
15:19:19  <LordAro> in fact, i'm sure of it
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15:31:07  <maddy_> it's hard to find an error in a long paste like that without reading it thoroughly
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15:35:05  <planetmaker> hm, that's a first... "i have a good english do you need someone to translate to $LANGUAGE ?
15:35:07  <planetmaker> and does it for free or i get paid ?"
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15:41:36  <Terkhen> hello
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15:54:48  <planetmaker> hi Terkhen
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16:23:59  <alluke> planetmaker: whats with the snowy coasts?
16:24:28  <planetmaker> not working
16:24:42  <alluke> why?
16:24:44  <planetmaker> I could add a switch that coasts are displayed snowy. But then always
16:24:54  <planetmaker> because. because no-one made it so?
16:25:13  <peter1138> LOL @ GTA IV
16:25:15  <alluke> do the graphics exist?
16:25:25  <planetmaker> no. yes.
16:25:30  <peter1138> It won't let me configure the graphics because it thinks my can't isn't good enough.
16:25:52  <planetmaker> I do have all graphics for OpenGFX
16:26:00  <planetmaker> they're rather easily generated
16:26:24  <planetmaker> doesn't make the TTD or zBase graphics appear all of a sudden though :-)
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16:31:06  <alluke> seaside buoys dont have snow effect when snowline is 0
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16:31:38  <planetmaker> snowline 0 means level of the land
16:31:46  <planetmaker> I think
16:32:04  <alluke> seems
16:32:24  <alluke> need to add -1 to get it to sea level
16:32:48  <alluke> and cover the holes in the snow on 0-level
16:33:44  <alluke> coast trees are green too
16:34:45  <Supercheese> grfspecs wiki is being very slow
16:35:08  <alluke> tt-forums too
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16:37:47  <LordAro> /o
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16:44:33  <Supercheese> Hey, it's spritemaster DanMacK
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16:50:27  <DanMacK> heh, wouldn't go that far :P
16:50:44  <Supercheese> Well, I really like your sprites anyway :)
16:56:37  <DanMacK> ty
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17:32:18  <Wolf01> evening
17:35:22  <LordAro> /o
17:38:37  <maddy_> anyone else play a lot more temperate than arctic or desert because the landscape just looks better?
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17:45:10  <frosch123> no, temperate got boring
17:46:05  <frosch123> i played temperate in the past mostly, because it was the only climate with a tertiary industry
17:46:19  <frosch123> but that criterion is obsolete these days
17:48:50  <V453000> frosch and paper? :P
17:49:29  <Belugas> frosch and Lego?
17:50:37  <maddy_> I would like FIRS, but I don't like delivering supplies to industries in small chunks (by using a truck or something)
17:52:31  <frosch123> V453000: hmm, good point
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17:56:30  <DanMacK> Supplies isn't imperitive
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18:34:16  <juzza1> anyone know a decent way to estimate steam engine HP (for newgrf purposes) if the weight, speed and tractive effort values are known?
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18:38:52  <V453000> testing / experience from testing
18:40:57  <andythenorth> bonsoir
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18:42:00  <LordAro> "There are 2 hard problems in computer science: caching, naming, and off-by-1 errors."
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18:59:16  <frosch123> juzza1: iirc there is a very long sticky topic in newgrf dev forum
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19:20:58  <juzza1> ok, will check that
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19:57:30  <andythenorth> quiet eh?
19:58:58  <LordAro> yup
20:20:47  <Belugas> [14:41] <LordAro> "There are 2 hard problems in computer science: caching, naming, and off-by-1 errors."  <-- you can had stupid, bring, useless and long meetings :P
20:20:57  <Belugas> <boring>
20:21:12  <LordAro> :D
20:21:29  <frosch123> yeah, meetings are the biggest problem in general
20:21:38  * andythenorth likes meetings
20:22:01  <V453000> I dont think they mean alcohol apocalypse-style meetings andythenorth
20:22:08  <andythenorth> oh :(
20:22:14  <V453000> indeed :(
20:22:19  <andythenorth> all our best meetings happen in the pub
20:22:29  <V453000> pure coincidence
20:22:45  <andythenorth> correlation != causation
20:24:23  <andythenorth> meetings are where I get to do management
20:24:33  <andythenorth> how else do I validate my existence, if not by meetings?
20:25:19  <Alberth> pay salary of employees?
20:25:19  <V453000> well I do some serious management on such meetings too
20:25:37  <V453000> like managing to count amount of beer
20:26:10  <Alberth> and not running out of the gold stuff :)
20:26:44  <frosch123> V453000: managing what? your countenance?
20:26:45  <alluke> whos the first to pass out in the meetings
20:27:00  <V453000> managing everything
20:29:26  * Belugas prefers meetings under a green and white tent, with geeks and beer
20:29:30  <Belugas> and smokes...
20:30:08  * LordAro suspects Belugas is referencing a recent event...
20:30:18  <Belugas> me?? naaah...
20:30:27  <LordAro> ... but cannot confirm, as i haven't seen any pictures :p
20:30:29  <Belugas> [16:26] <alluke> whos the first to pass out in the meetings  <-- that was me!
20:30:55  <frosch123> LordAro: when you get older stuff can appear recent even if it is ten years ago :p
20:31:17  <LordAro> D:
20:33:39  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember any secret meeting
20:34:39  <Alberth> too much beer?  :)
20:34:59  <Alberth> or you failed to notice the secret meeting in the meeting :)
20:35:08  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: meetings were you slaughter unicorns and eat them together, must be kept secret!
20:35:34  <frosch123> +h
20:36:55  <andythenorth> unicorn pie
20:37:11  <andythenorth> slow forum is slow?
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20:37:30  <Alberth> looks that way
20:37:53  <andythenorth> do we need to buy orudge a bigger server? o_O
20:38:04  <LordAro> he should get more RAM :p
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20:42:09  * Belugas goes back to home. see ya
20:43:27  <Eddi|zuHause> the forum is slow rather a lot lately
20:44:04  <frosch123> yeah, ever since pm became global moderator :p
20:44:22  <frosch123> they are overloading the forums with posts in the private section
20:44:38  <Eddi|zuHause> man i love this ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vg2h_nW0bA
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21:19:18  <LordAro> night all
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22:21:52  <Wolf01> 'night all
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22:57:02  <Bad_Brett> hello
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