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2 changes by Milsa 18:09:14 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:50 *** chester_ [~chester@95-28-155-2.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:16:12 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:17:48 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 18:22:15 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has joined #openttd 18:23:43 <Supercheese> There any patch(es) to enable drag & drop newobject 18:23:49 <Supercheese> ? 18:23:59 <Supercheese> drag & drop for newobjects* 18:24:21 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:40 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has left #openttd [] 18:24:43 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.157.55] has joined #openttd 18:32:12 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@87.114.66.27] has joined #openttd 18:43:17 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:06 <LordAro> config.lib:2198 " log 2 "Detecing awk..."" <-- it's only been there for 6.5 years :p thanks TB :) 18:58:22 <peter1138> ? 18:58:54 <LordAro> "Detecing" 18:58:59 <Eddi|zuHause> people here make a habit of talking in riddles 18:59:01 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:59:07 <LordAro> /o 18:59:12 <Bad_Brett> o/ 18:59:24 <peter1138> Oh 18:59:54 <LordAro> seems it's easily missed :p 19:00:00 * Supercheese missed it... 19:09:43 <peter1138> problem with using git 19:09:56 <peter1138> is you can't play on nightly servers... :p 19:10:43 <LordAro> silly revision numbers 19:16:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:17:03 <andythenorth> o/ 19:17:19 <oskari89> andythenorhth: I was expecting you :D 19:17:51 <Alberth> \o 19:17:59 <oskari89> May you add Finnish Trainset to FIRS-compatible sets, we already have compability? :) 19:19:22 <Alberth> andythenorth: I removed a few double {BLACK} in the english language 19:19:46 <andythenorth> oskari89: in the docs? 19:20:04 <andythenorth> hmm 19:20:11 <andythenorth> I don't think we keep a list any more 19:20:16 <andythenorth> :) 19:23:41 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:29:28 <V453000> andythenorth: WTF is JAVA :D 19:29:39 <andythenorth> WTF do you think? :P 19:29:41 <andythenorth> :) 19:29:50 <V453000> I expected something like COFF 19:29:51 <V453000> but no 19:29:52 <V453000> :D 19:30:19 <andythenorth> who do you think you should blame? o_O 19:30:25 <V453000> ehmmm 19:30:28 <V453000> you? 19:31:45 <Supercheese> The Manhattan Transfer? 19:32:02 <V453000> can try frosch but I dont think it is too authentical to unicorns 19:37:55 <frosch123> V453000: try the master troll 19:38:08 <heffer> hi there, favorite upstream :D can you please have a look at this: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36381/13780642/ ? 19:38:47 <V453000> who is master troll if not andy 19:40:27 <frosch123> heffer: the stacktrace ends where it would get interesting 19:40:38 <frosch123> V453000: you do not know the master troll? 19:40:42 <heffer> frosch123: i'll try to get something more interesting :D 19:41:29 <andythenorth> V453000: elemental 19:41:35 <andythenorth> as Sherlock Holmes used to say 19:45:52 <heffer> http://heffer.fedorapeople.org/openttd.log.gz output from strace 19:49:22 <frosch123> is that something you got from the report? or can you reproduce the crash locally? 19:50:19 <heffer> i can reproduce locally 19:50:42 <frosch123> well, can you create a gdb backtrace with debug simbols? 19:51:08 <frosch123> your first paste has no symbols from openttd 19:51:16 <heffer> okay i'll do that 19:55:23 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.55.36] has joined #openttd 20:02:54 <heffer> frosch123: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/36386/06576813 20:06:04 <Rubidium> is passing NULL to a size_t & parameter allowed? 20:07:13 <Alberth> I'd hope not 20:07:24 <frosch123> it's possible, but very unusual 20:07:47 <Rubidium> well... ICU calls openttd with a NULL references (top of stack trace) 20:08:09 <Rubidium> wiki says "References cannot be null" 20:08:56 <Alberth> good night 20:09:00 <peter1138> it shouldn't be possible 20:09:58 <frosch123> well, if you pass *pointer of a null pointer as reference, it will crash on using the reference 20:10:00 <frosch123> not on passing 20:10:39 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:10:45 <Rubidium> specs 8.3.2 -4- says: "Note: in particular, a null reference cannot exist in a well-defined program" 20:11:01 <Rubidium> (C++98) 20:16:27 <heffer> so is this an ICU bug? 20:16:43 <heffer> i hate ICU. i need to rebuild openttd for each new icu build 20:17:09 <Rubidium> could be 20:17:23 <frosch123> heffer: do you have any fonts configured in openttd.cfg? 20:17:35 <heffer> nope. this is a test install in a VM 20:17:38 <frosch123> fontInstance=0x0 <- i would think the problem is around there 20:17:48 <heffer> clean install of Fedora 19 20:17:55 <heffer> then just yum install openttd 20:17:56 <Rubidium> but... I can't quite jump from MultipleSubstSubtables.cpp:32 to the GetFontTable call 20:18:13 <Rubidium> something seems to be missing there 20:20:35 <Rubidium> heffer: can you try if you can printf("%p\n", &length); before accessing length on line 83 of src/fontcache.cpp? 20:21:01 * Rubidium just gets an address there 20:28:15 <Rubidium> that paste page is funny though. It's clock seems to be off by 12 hours 20:31:14 * Rubidium should use quotes in the right place 20:31:30 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:34:53 <heffer> hmm that breaks my build 20:35:05 <heffer> fontcache.cpp:83:9: error: expected identifier before string constant 20:41:35 <frosch123> i think rb meant: virtual const void *GetFontTable(uint32 tag, size_t &length) { printf("%p\n", &length); length = 0; return NULL; } 20:42:16 <heffer> nevermind :P i was blind 20:48:00 <heffer> hmm looks like it's an issue that is solved with a rebuild 20:49:01 <heffer> because after building with the printf hack it works 20:49:37 <Rubidium> it still works if you remove the printf? 20:50:21 <heffer> lets see 20:50:57 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52:41 <heffer> yes it works 20:52:49 <heffer> looks like yet another ICU rebuild error 20:52:58 <heffer> ABI f***up 20:53:02 <Rubidium> but it should already be rebuilt 20:53:52 <heffer> yes i rebuild it not long ago for all current fedora versions 20:54:26 <Rubidium> as far as I can see on 23-07 the last icu release was done for FC19 20:55:01 <Rubidium> and openttd was rebuilt about two weeks later for FC19 20:55:10 <heffer> yes that's correct 20:55:35 <heffer> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=162 (ICU) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8531 (openttd) 20:57:44 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 20:58:03 <frosch123> night 20:58:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009a64.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:58:15 <Rubidium> might it be that they don't use the updated version of icu? 20:58:29 <heffer> i'll ask in the bug report 20:58:48 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 20:59:26 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C37D8.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:00:19 <heffer> (which by the way is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000742) 21:00:41 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 21:00:49 <Rubidium> good luck trying to figure it out. It somewhat smells like ICU ABI crap 21:02:01 <Rubidium> the normal complete ABI breaking is annoying, but makes it clear the ABI changed. This is somewhat more annoying as the "same" ABI has different versions 21:04:39 <Rubidium> in any case... night as well 21:04:46 <heffer> night. and thanks :) 21:05:57 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.100.46] has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 21:07:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A197AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:34 <LordAro> what's the best bash way to get just the date part of this? "Last Changed Date: 2013-09-01 13:18:03 +0100 (Sun, 01 Sep 2013)" 21:10:39 <LordAro> i'm thinking grep or similar 21:13:36 <TWerkhoven> ${stringvar:19:10} ? 21:15:38 <TWerkhoven> assuming a bashscript where that line is in stringvar 21:17:04 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:17:33 <LordAro> hmm, is there a way i can do that in one line? (with "svn info...") 21:19:59 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:26:55 <TWerkhoven> think you'd have to use | with xargs 21:27:37 <TWerkhoven> check if line starts with 'last changed date', if so apply above string bit 21:28:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:30:36 <LordAro> i don't understand how i can use xargs in that context 21:48:41 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:25 <TWerkhoven> svn info | grep 'Last Changed Date:' | xargs -I stringvar echo ${stringvar:19:10} 21:51:40 <TWerkhoven> ^ will likely not work as-is, but should point in the right direction 21:54:06 <Wolf01> 'night 21:54:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:56:49 <LordAro> TWerkhoven: indeed it doesn't, but i don't like xargs, and have no idea what's wrong :L 21:57:52 <planetmaker> I could give you the hg equivalent, LordAro ;-) hg log -r tip --template='{date|shortdate}' 21:58:06 <LordAro> planetmaker, i have that already ;) 21:59:14 <planetmaker> echo $string | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\ -f1 21:59:23 <planetmaker> with $string your string 22:00:12 *** Tulitomaatti [tt@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c15b-226.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:00:16 <planetmaker> hm, not :-) 22:02:19 <planetmaker> make the last -f1 also an -f2 22:03:52 <LordAro> hmm, i need the time too 22:04:08 <planetmaker> you should have said that ;-) 22:04:45 *** ntx_ [~ntx@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c027-185.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:46 <planetmaker> LC_ALL=en.US.utf8 svn info | grep 'Last Changed Date' | sed "s/Last Changed Date: //g" | cut -d\( -f1 22:11:40 <LordAro> is the utf8 bit necessary? :L 22:12:22 <planetmaker> possibly not. 22:13:22 <LordAro> what if i said i didn't want the timezone? :P 22:14:00 <planetmaker> you want the time, or you want it not? 22:14:07 <planetmaker> ;-) 22:14:24 *** JVassie [JVassie@cpc14-nmal18-2-0-cust85.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:07 <LordAro> i want some of it :p 22:16:08 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 22:17:28 *** chester_ [~chester@95-28-155-2.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:41 <planetmaker> add a | cut -c -19 22:20:48 <LordAro> that'll do :) 22:20:50 <LordAro> thanks :D 22:23:13 <planetmaker> yw 22:25:25 <planetmaker> and with that good night for today :-) 22:34:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:20:01 *** psde [~oftc-webi@krlh-5f71d667.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:21:12 <psde> Hey there! My steel mill has one drop-off and one loading station. but the steel mill somehow pushes some of the produced steel to the drop-off station - is there something I can do about that? 23:28:09 <Supercheese> You must have accidentally had a train that can carry steel visit the drop off 23:28:32 <Supercheese> or potentially you need to change a setting 23:29:10 <Supercheese> Advanced settings -> Stations -> Cargo Handling -> Deliver cargo only when there's demand 23:29:14 <Supercheese> check that setting, is it on or off? 23:33:22 <psde> It is on 23:34:11 <psde> I guess some train may have picked something up, but that was ages ago 23:36:32 <juzza1> a "fix" is to delete the station which is stealing the steel, and wait for it to disappear completely 23:37:07 <psde> I really don't want to reconfigure all my timetables 23:38:02 *** fjb is now known as Guest5173 23:38:04 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:08 <Supercheese> Your only hope, sadly, is to delete the station and wait, as juzza mentioned 23:39:19 <Supercheese> or else just live with the excess steel 23:40:21 <Eddi|zuHause> or make it a feeder system from one station to the other 23:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause> build a bunch of trucks and make them "transfer and leave empty" 23:42:24 *** JVassie [JVassie@cpc14-nmal18-2-0-cust85.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:44:56 *** Guest5173 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:51:41 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-37-175.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]