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<andythenorth> o/ 06:53:42 <Flygon> Howdy! 07:01:37 *** Japa_ [~Japa@112.79.36.47] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13:15 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36:32 *** lugo [lugo@apple.bnc4free.com] has joined #openttd 07:49:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has joined #openttd 08:01:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:10:47 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:12:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:26:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DE1B.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:55:03 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.177.167.127.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC 1.9.3 Disequilibrium http://www.adiirc.com/] 08:56:44 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.177.167.127.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 09:01:52 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 09:04:45 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 09:04:50 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.47] has joined #openttd 09:10:48 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 09:10:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:18:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 09:20:11 <NGC3982> Xaroth|Work: Hah. 09:23:14 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@69.104.16.69] has joined #openttd 09:26:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A193FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:34:08 <Alberth> moin 09:39:46 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42:39 <Xaroth|Work> o/ Alberth 09:42:47 <Xaroth|Work> Alberth: http://i.imgur.com/DdcjXIH.jpg 09:43:36 <Alberth> :D 09:44:11 <Alberth> so perhaps rename to "rollercoaster ant farm"? :D 09:44:30 <Xaroth|Work> :) 09:54:52 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A193FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03:47 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.81.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:16:02 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r26226 trunk/src/stdafx.h (2014-01-05 10:15:57 UTC) 10:16:03 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r26212): Compilation in visual studio 2008 failed 10:20:04 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r26227 trunk/projects/generate.vbs (2014-01-05 10:19:59 UTC) 10:20:05 <DorpsGek> -Fix: [Windows] generate.vbs didn't include SSE source files 10:21:12 * NGC3982 loves his time stopped game. 10:21:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:37:55 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:12 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:46:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f7457d2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:46:31 *** tyteen4a03 [~T4@94.191.185.121.mobile.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:47:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:48:47 <Alberth> hopefully the vehicles don't jump back to their starting position each year :p 10:49:18 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:59 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 10:51:30 <frosch123> these weird fs reports where people forget about their timetables always confuse me 10:58:53 <NGC3982> Alberth: It doesn't. 11:05:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:06:10 <Wolf01> moin 11:08:15 <Taede> mornin 11:11:27 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22:13 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:23:05 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:28:37 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r26228 trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp (2014-01-05 11:28:31 UTC) 11:28:38 <DorpsGek> -Fix: missing variable initialization 11:34:21 *** SpComb^ [terom@zerg.fixme.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34:23 *** SpComb^ [terom@zerg.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 11:35:50 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@162.218.211.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37:36 <LordAro> morning all 11:41:27 <Flygon> Howdy 11:55:35 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C330B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:17:31 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@vadtec.net] has joined #openttd 12:23:47 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:28:19 <frosch123> hmm, was there a way to initialise an array of classes without default constructor? 12:28:28 <frosch123> inside a ctor list 12:29:25 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:30:49 <Alberth> wrap them in a function, like the widget parts? 12:32:08 *** tyteen4a03 [~T4@188-177-119-106-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 12:34:19 <frosch123> ah, well let's just insert a '*' somewhere 12:34:32 <Alberth> :) 12:35:46 <Wolf01> a star? 12:35:47 <LordAro> frosch123: new ClassName[n]();, iirc 12:36:27 <frosch123> that's with default constructor 12:36:35 <frosch123> and it's no member array 12:36:59 <frosch123> there is a syntax in c++11 though, with {} initialiser lists 12:38:23 <LordAro> ah right 12:38:35 <LordAro> yeah, there's c++11 stuff, but ottd doesn't use that :p 12:39:01 <Alberth> Wolf01: X *x[10] instead of X x[10] 12:56:52 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:10:15 <planetmaker> moin 13:33:10 *** sla_ro|master2 [~sla.ro@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 13:38:33 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:13 *** 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<DanMacK> new scenario format? oh dear 20:08:43 <Alberth> andythenorth: mostly all in the tar, at least for the data of the scenario itself. Whether that should include grfs and gses, is an undecided matter 20:09:25 <andythenorth> it would be nice to provide heightmaps for some FIRS economies 20:09:36 <andythenorth> and then again Iron Horse and other grfs are also being matched to FIRS 20:09:49 <andythenorth> and it's a lot of work for players to collate all of those via bananas 20:10:11 <andythenorth> but I wouldn't want to prevent them changing grfs, parameters etc 20:10:14 <Alberth> yeah, the frontend needs more love 20:11:33 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:12:04 <Flygon> Alright, thanks peter 20:12:08 <Flygon> Good thing for emergency save 20:12:14 <DanMacK> Agreed - we don't want OzTrans type behaviour (certain grfs only work with certain others) 20:43:41 *** DanMacK [~453f374e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:44:28 *** Virtual [~Virtual@95.44.116.115] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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They seem to get performatively worse not better 21:32:59 <andythenorth> maybe just the web gets 'more' 21:33:50 <Eddi|zuHause> browsers got good in the first browser war, then they got bad after that, and then they got good again in the second browser war, and now they degrade again. seems to be cyclic 21:34:08 <andythenorth> it's odd 21:34:25 <andythenorth> they don't have all the crap any more, like email clients and calendars and all that stuff 21:34:48 <andythenorth> maybe they're just not interesting to code 21:34:53 <andythenorth> so nobody good is bothering 21:35:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 21:35:42 <Eddi|zuHause> all the "crap" is now a webpage, not a program 21:35:58 <Alberth> they have, it's just a big library with different front-ends, published under different names 21:37:12 <Alberth> and the webpage is horribly slow without proper hardware support :p 21:37:56 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 21:41:25 <DDR> Give a web designer a faster browser, and they'll make a slower web page. 21:42:07 <andythenorth> and why shouldn't I add 1MB of javascript per page? :P 21:42:34 *** sla_ro|master2 [~sla.ro@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 21:44:41 <frosch123> just use the web ide as browser 21:44:59 <frosch123> if you use the same browser as the developer, you may be more lucky that it works 21:45:06 <frosch123> speed is overrated 21:45:18 <frosch123> better use stuff that works 21:46:35 <DDR> Speed-wise, I made a test page the other day that was about 4x faster to run under Chrome. 21:46:53 <DDR> I still use firefox for my browsing, though, since I like it better. 21:47:12 <frosch123> i have no idea about chrome 21:47:19 <frosch123> but i need my ff plugins 21:47:22 <DDR> It's faster than Firefox. 21:47:37 <DDR> But firefox has more plugins and features. 21:47:48 <DDR> The majority of the load time is spent fetching the data, anyway. 21:48:25 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl20-232-109.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 21:48:51 <frosch123> something for whitelisting flash and blocking the rest, something to open any url as text in the browser, something to override the mime type from the server, something to check http headers, and something to fix tt-forums page titles 21:49:20 <frosch123> sounds more like a dev ide, right? :p 21:49:41 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:49:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 21:50:42 *** stroh [~smoofi@cpe-0018f841fb5c.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has joined #openttd 21:50:47 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:56 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-232-109.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:52:17 *** NGC3982 [appe@noskapin.krot.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:52:18 *** NGC3982 [appe@noskapin.krot.se] has joined #openttd 21:52:24 <andythenorth> time for bed, no? 21:52:48 *** strohalm [~smoofi@cpe-0018f841fb5c.ip-pool.rftonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55:32 <Rubidium> maybe the browsers are so much worse w.r.t. memory issues now because of those every month a new major release cycles, with a current stable, current fairly well tested, current tested and current development "branches" 21:57:17 <Rubidium> if user $X notices say version 24 uses much more memory than before, then developer Y$ says... yes, in version 27 there are some improvements to memory usage. 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