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Log for #openttd on 10th January 2014:
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01:03:22  <fjb_mobile> Moin
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01:28:45  * Sacro finds a new years message from Belugas from 2005
01:29:22  <Sacro> I've been here too long!
01:29:25  <Sacro> @seen Bjarni
01:29:25  <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 2 years, 13 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh
01:32:37  <Eddi|zuHause> that was not new year
01:33:34  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: tssk
01:33:38  <Sacro> it's dated 31/12/2005
01:34:28  <Eddi|zuHause> that's not what i meant, but 31.12. is definitely not new year either :p
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06:09:09  <Flygon> On one hand
06:09:23  <Flygon> I figured out how to have an absurd amount of platforms in just 4 tiles width
06:09:34  <Flygon> On the other hand, I'm worried people will think I'm stupid and insane
06:09:59  <grepwood> make 20 companies
06:10:08  <grepwood> demolish towns in competitor's station's range
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06:10:52  <grepwood> also make sure to password those companies so that the competitor can't use those proxy companies against you later on
06:11:14  <Flygon> This's a single player game
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11:18:01  <fjb_mobile> Moin
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11:19:54  <planetmaker> heya fjb_mobile :)
11:20:53  <fjb_mobile> I found my way back. :-)
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11:23:08  <planetmaker> nice :)
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12:28:52  <Aristide> Hi !
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12:40:21  <dihedral> fjb_mobile, any new photographs to show? :-)
12:45:07  <fjb_mobile> Not at the moment, but coming soon, if I find time.
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13:31:03  <Belugas> hello
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14:04:49  * LordAro appears
14:04:52  <LordAro> /o
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14:05:05  * Flygon shakes LordAro
14:05:34  <LordAro> D:
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14:54:41  <michelNL> !content
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14:57:38  <planetmaker> this is not openttd's remote console :P
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15:12:23  <michelNL> :) my fail
15:12:41  <michelNL> just getting lost with so many windows:)
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18:34:21  <Wolf01> hello
18:41:39  <Eddi|zuHause> has anybody been in hamburg since they declared martial law (or somesuch)?
18:45:16  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26234 trunk/src/lang/bulgarian.txt (2014-01-10 18:45:09 UTC)
18:45:17  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:18  <DorpsGek> bulgarian - 69 changes by kokobongo
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19:02:06  *** planetmaker changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.4-beta2, 1.3.3 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | #openttd.dev for dev-talk | #openttd.notice for commit notices
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19:37:57  <andythenorth> o/
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19:45:21  <andythenorth> quak
19:45:38  <frosch123> moin
19:46:18  <frosch123> what's the purpose of coconut oil?
19:46:31  <frosch123> err, coconut milk
19:47:08  <planetmaker> quak :)
19:47:14  <andythenorth> you can eat it?
19:47:19  <andythenorth> or bathe in it
19:47:23  <andythenorth> or use it as skincare
19:47:35  <andythenorth> I think most people put it in thai curry
19:47:40  <andythenorth> which is the wrong kind of curry imo
19:47:56  <frosch123> there was an asian woman in front of me in the shop. she bought 4 toiled brushes and about 100 litre of coconut milk
19:48:19  <andythenorth> lots of curry
19:48:32  <planetmaker> yeah, I use it for curry :)
19:48:54  <frosch123> cost about 120 euro, paid with a 500 euro note. the cashier almost had not enough exchange
19:48:55  <planetmaker> but what's wrong about thai curry? :D
19:49:03  <planetmaker> lol
19:49:14  <planetmaker> not sure I've ever seen a 500€ note for real
19:49:41  <andythenorth> planetmaker: just that I prefer indian curry
19:49:56  * planetmaker eats both :P
19:50:08  <planetmaker> but I have a book about thai curries ;)
19:50:18  <frosch123> well, but what kind of thai restaurant has 4 toilets?
19:50:36  <planetmaker> MacThai
19:50:51  <planetmaker> :P
19:51:12  <planetmaker> though 4 is not extremely many, is it?
19:51:20  <planetmaker> it's two per gender
19:52:11  <andythenorth> unusual turn of conversation :P
19:52:18  <andythenorth> can't we argue about rivers or something? :)
19:52:38  <andythenorth> also my eyes are now adjusted to a retina screen.  it no longer looks bizarre :|
19:53:13  <andythenorth> HDPI if you prefer
19:53:59  <frosch123> ottd on oculus rift?
19:54:20  <Eddi|zuHause> <frosch123> cost about 120 euro, paid with a 500 euro note. the cashier almost had not enough exchange <-- i'm surprised they actually took that
19:54:21  <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=65990
19:54:49  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, i also wondered that
19:55:23  <Eddi|zuHause> at least i have seen lots of "we don't take 500€ bills" signs
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19:55:41  <Eddi|zuHause> often at gas stations
19:56:15  <planetmaker> Interestingly I found a local gas station which you can also use to retrieve cash from your account
19:56:19  <planetmaker> that was new to me :)
19:56:36  <planetmaker> like "station 3 and 100€ please" :)
19:56:42  <Eddi|zuHause> at the dentist they once refused to take my 10€ in 5¢-50¢ coins
19:56:57  <frosch123> planetmaker: you can even do that at penny
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19:57:15  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i have seen shops do that
19:57:34  <Eddi|zuHause> "if you purchase for >20€ you can retrieve up to 200€ from your account"
19:57:58  <frosch123> if you pay with a card, they ask whether you also want to some cash. but i have not seen anyone who actually wanted
19:58:03  <andythenorth> cashback?
19:58:07  <andythenorth> standard in the uk
19:58:10  <Eddi|zuHause> i actually did that once
19:58:33  <planetmaker> andythenorth, yeah. For some frigging reason that was even forbidden in Germany till some years ago
19:58:37  <andythenorth> he
19:58:51  <planetmaker> hit me hard when I returned to the country 10 years ago
19:58:53  <andythenorth> standard procedure as students, you have to buy something to get cashback
19:59:04  <andythenorth> so buy £0.19 of gum, get £20
20:01:54  <Eddi|zuHause> "Exercice 4: which value does this pascal statement return: a:=1; b:=2; c:=2; if a=b and b=c then ret=true else ret=false;" <-- i think there's more than one trick in the trick question...
20:05:08  <Rubidium> depends whether the function is called a, b, c or something else I guess
20:05:39  <Eddi|zuHause> var a,b,c : Integer; ret : Boolean;
20:06:53  <glx> I vote for "false"
20:07:14  <Rubidium> well, a, b, and c have their obvious values, I'd say ret has the default value (or uninitialised) because there is no assignment to ret
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20:07:35  <glx> oh right
20:07:40  <Eddi|zuHause> yes. and the if expression yields true
20:07:55  <Eddi|zuHause> because a=((b and b)=c)
20:08:05  <Eddi|zuHause> so 1=True
20:10:04  <Eddi|zuHause> i believe pascal initialised to 0 (i.e. false)
20:10:24  <Eddi|zuHause> but i'd have to look this up
20:13:12  <planetmaker> frosch123, thanks for the DevZone support :)
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20:17:06  <Eddi|zuHause> "Exercice 6: put brackets around this C-expressions according to their associativity and precedence: -a && b && c || d = x << y | x & y >> z"
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20:23:12  <frosch123> planetmaker: yw
20:27:38  <andythenorth> so zero-height bridges over rivers? o_O
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20:29:02  <Eddi|zuHause> i always thought those should be objects with a special routing state machine
20:29:15  <frosch123> do block ships?
20:29:19  <frosch123> *to
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20:29:49  <Eddi|zuHause> then they could come in a drawbridge variant that lets through ships or trains
20:30:02  <Eddi|zuHause> but not both at the same time
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20:31:42  <Eddi|zuHause> "if (track is reserved or train in state machine) refuse entering ship; if (ship in statemachine) refuse entering/reserving train track;"
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20:36:56  <andythenorth> I kind of favour the 'bulldoze rivers' solution
20:37:10  <andythenorth> I wonder if we could just let rail / road construction do that
20:37:40  <Eddi|zuHause> i will ragequit if you do that :p
20:37:53  <andythenorth> it's ok
20:37:59  <andythenorth> I would never finish the patch :P
20:38:13  <andythenorth> although I suspect Rubidium might commit it just to troll you if I did :)
20:39:20  <Eddi|zuHause> i'd rather have a dynamit mode that never touches water and one that does
20:40:38  <Eddi|zuHause> or one that only destroys company property and free land, and one that also destroys town property and water (and fails on other company's property)
20:40:51  <Taede> i'd be happy enough with a bulldoze that doesnt touch rivers unless you bulldoze a specific river-tile (eg 1 bulldozed tile, and that tile is river)
20:41:17  <Taede> just to prevent accidental river-removal
20:41:31  <andythenorth> what problem does it solve?
20:41:33  <andythenorth> o_O
20:41:45  <Eddi|zuHause> the second version may be helpful in towns, when multiple companys build roads and trams etc.
20:42:12  <Eddi|zuHause> currently you must use varying bulldozer tools to remove your tram rail in town
20:44:02  <andythenorth> also rail remove
20:44:04  <andythenorth> signal remove
20:44:08  <andythenorth> station remove...
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21:49:43  <andythenorth> is it bedtime?
21:49:52  <Taede> nearly
21:51:44  <Xaroth|Work> hardly
21:52:02  * Taede needs to work tomorrow
21:52:32  <Xaroth|Work> :(
22:02:27  <planetmaker> oh :S
22:04:40  <Taede> on the bright side, im off sunday and wednesday next week
22:07:53  <planetmaker> :)
22:08:59  <__ln__> that's what they want you to believe
22:09:30  <Taede> 's ok, i dont work in ict, im not on call or anything
22:11:22  <Taede> anyway, off to bed
22:11:25  <Taede> gnite all
22:11:33  <planetmaker> g'night, Taede
22:19:16  <Wolf01> 'night all
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22:38:18  <triad> when the 1.4 is going to be released ?
22:39:05  <Eddi|zuHause> same as the others
22:39:27  <triad> so..when it's that ?
22:40:54  <planetmaker> 2.5 months +-
22:41:28  <triad> Feb - March ?
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22:44:15  <__ln__> what are the new cool feature highlights?
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22:45:54  <__ln__> will there be a keynote event + video where Rubidium introduces the new 1.4?
22:48:24  <planetmaker> and we all know that you more likely have keynotes than rubi ;)
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23:19:01  <Eddi|zuHause> there are no new cool features
23:19:05  <Eddi|zuHause> openttd is dying
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