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There's no point in a 32bpp sub forum at all 09:01:17 <__ln__> yeah, better go 64bpp at this time and age 09:02:05 <Pikka> even the seperate releases, development and technical discussion forums are a bit unnecessary, for the number of posts each gets. 09:05:23 <V453000> and motivating people to release newgrfs on a forum instead of bananas by having "release forum" is a bad idea too :P 09:05:30 <V453000> and the development forums are just flood of stupid ideas 09:05:39 <V453000> remove all categories? D: 09:07:38 <planetmaker> removing all categories would not be the worst move 09:07:56 <planetmaker> would also avoid more of the "you posted in the wrong forum" discussions 09:09:01 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-72-67.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09:29 <V453000> honestly if each newGRF has two threads (release and development, it is just plain confusing too 09:09:48 <planetmaker> yes, quite 09:09:50 <V453000> e.g. nuts threads are short but I quickly had no idea what is in which thread (who wrote what where) 09:10:11 <planetmaker> nor do I for those NewGRF threads concerning my newgrfs 09:10:12 <V453000> not that I want to keep any of those really, but for others 09:10:16 <V453000> y 09:10:36 *** jjavaholic_ [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 09:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> who needs a forum anyway! remove it completely! make a facebook group! 09:11:56 *** jjavaholic__ [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 09:12:03 <planetmaker> would require me to log into facebook more than once a month. No thank you :P 09:14:46 *** jjavaholic__ [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15:33 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:19:00 *** jjavaholic_ [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:21:21 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 10:15:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 10:15:30 <Rubidium> s/log into/create a/;s/more than once a month/account/ 10:16:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 10:26:16 <peter1139> You could say our 32bpp is actually 48bpp anyway... 10:38:24 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:43:13 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 10:48:59 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:50:20 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 10:50:40 *** Virtual [~Virtual@46.7.241.30] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50:51 *** Virtual [~Virtual@46.7.241.30] has joined #openttd 11:00:54 *** Morgan_Freeman [~user@99-194-195-10.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:01:57 <Eddi|zuHause> why would a name ever describe the content... that would be way too german :p 11:09:12 <peter1139> I think that's only in-memory, mind you. It's 40bpp in-file. 11:09:20 <peter1139> IIRC... 11:09:39 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host-89-243-199-101.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 11:32:28 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 11:36:23 *** Virtual [~Virtual@46.7.241.30] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:48:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:55:43 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.92.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:10 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:01:11 *** kakdudi [~oftc-webi@80.179.93.112] has joined #openttd 12:01:25 *** kakdudi [~oftc-webi@80.179.93.112] has quit [] 12:03:58 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host-89-243-199-101.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:12:50 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.106] has joined #openttd 12:19:18 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.106.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:30:39 *** Fuco 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[~Japa@117.201.103.106] has joined #openttd 13:54:43 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 14:03:06 *** web386 [~oftc-webi@pool-173-67-179-17.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:05:41 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:06 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.92.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:11 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.92.92] has joined #openttd 14:14:44 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 14:22:10 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-111-193.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:28:16 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:50 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:50 <Eddi|zuHause> this "goto fail" bug is obviously because they didn't follow the coding style :p 14:42:47 <Xaroth|Work> all hail curly brackets 14:49:44 <Rubidium> huh? 14:52:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D969.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:54:18 <Eddi|zuHause> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhEuZKmCcAAcPAS.png 14:55:33 <Rubidium> the horror 14:55:40 <Rubidium> even inconsistent spacing and coding style 14:57:07 <Xaroth|Work> enterprise coding does that to people 14:58:11 <Rubidium> doesn't LLVM detect dead code? 14:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i was wondering that as well. should be a trivial analysis 14:59:17 <blathijs> Sure, it detects dead code and removes it for you, free of charge! :-) 14:59:38 <Rubidium> it ought to warn 15:00:02 <Rubidium> eclipse even goes so far as to throw an error and refuse to compile it (at least with the config I used and Java) 15:00:40 <Rubidium> likewise... eclipse formats my code, so it's pretty much 100% consistently formatted w.r.t. curly brackets and the likes 15:01:09 <Eddi|zuHause> real coders do everything manually 15:01:45 *** Morgan_Freeman [~user@99-194-195-10.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:16 <Rubidium> that must give really crappy quality code 15:03:20 <Rubidium> and probably a "one file for everything" approach 15:03:52 <Rubidium> as manually figuring out which files' dependencies changed to compile them manually is a lot of work 15:05:40 *** Fadi|ircc [uid15865@id-15865.highgate.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:10 <dihedral> i prefer netbeans :-) 15:07:14 <dihedral> :-P 15:07:58 <scshunt> Rubidium: Java has restricted goto rules though 15:08:30 <scshunt> ;) 15:13:08 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:16:28 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 15:22:07 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:26:15 <Xaroth|Work> scshunt: java has a plethora of other issues :P 15:41:27 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 15:43:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D969.versanet.de] has 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expected) the assert still occurs 16:28:20 <Eddi|zuHause> "t" should be "tile" 16:28:36 <andythenorth> I changed that 16:28:43 <andythenorth> I have a different assert now though 16:28:48 * andythenorth finds crash log 16:28:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. different asserts need different solutions :p 16:29:52 <andythenorth> he 16:30:05 <andythenorth> Assertion failed at line 76 of /Users/andy/Documents/workspace/openttd/src/tile_map.h: tile < MapSize() 16:30:39 <andythenorth> this only happens once the start screen game is running of course 16:32:12 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:37 <Eddi|zuHause> err, yes. means some check for out-of-map is missing, but i can't research how to solve that right now. 16:38:05 <andythenorth> hrm 16:38:12 <andythenorth> I'll see if I can see it anywhere else 16:38:40 <Eddi|zuHause> try the "turn desert into rainforest around water" check 16:38:53 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:26 <andythenorth> yeah, looking there now :) 16:40:33 <andythenorth> if I change the search radius to 5 instead of 2...the assert takes longer 16:40:39 * andythenorth experiments 16:41:25 <andythenorth> hrm 16:41:33 <andythenorth> with 50 it lasts much longer 16:41:45 <andythenorth> but the 2 hovercraft have disappeared from the start screen game :P 16:41:50 <andythenorth> oh no, here they come 16:42:41 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:43:33 <andythenorth> 12 eventually asserts 16:43:48 <andythenorth> also the game runs like a slug 16:44:00 <andythenorth> so I guess this tile search is called during pathfinding 16:44:06 <andythenorth> how intriguing 16:44:33 <andythenorth> anyway, enough of 'my first C++' project, back to work 16:51:07 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:49 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 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Wondered about that, too 17:29:06 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i haven't really understood the details of the error, but i presume that it just silently failed and went into an unencrypted mode, without showing it? 17:37:52 <frosch123> i have no idea, i just saw the screenshot, and thought that can't be the complete fix 17:38:24 <frosch123> otherwise bananas is the only fruity thing i use 17:38:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure you could just look it up 17:38:37 <frosch123> i'll leave that to __ln__ 17:39:25 <andythenorth> hrm, this patch :( 17:40:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:42:34 *** Morgan_Freeman [~user@99-194-195-10.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:57 *** rubenwardy [~rubenward@host86-150-141-115.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:53:00 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.25.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 18:03:11 *** Absolutis [~Absolutis@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f96a-247.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 18:04:53 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:11:18 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-250-38.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:41 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.81.250.38] has joined #openttd 18:13:43 *** killertester [~igor@pppoe-77-75-12-5.ppp.kmv.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:14:59 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26372 trunk/docs/desync.txt (2014-02-24 18:14:53 UTC) 18:15:00 <DorpsGek> -Doc [FS#5927]: Typos. 18:22:35 <frosch123> pff, V has one 18:22:39 <frosch123> *won 18:22:52 <frosch123> he made a network, which the pathfinder got lost in 18:25:11 *** Morgan_Freeman [~user@99-194-195-10.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:28:23 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 18:28:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:31:10 *** Fadi|ircc [uid15865@id-15865.highgate.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:31:41 <V453000> frosch123: ? 18:37:29 <frosch123> fs#5926 18:37:33 <frosch123> you broke the pathfinder 18:39:10 <Eddi|zuHause> reminds me of the time when i repeatedly gave KUDr the same savegame "this train is lost (again) for no reason" 18:40:10 <Eddi|zuHause> at least one instance it was because it was a mixed electrified/unelectrified, and it depended on whether an electric or diesel train went into the junction to cache the values 18:43:42 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3DAC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:44:16 *** killertester [~igor@pppoe-77-75-12-5.ppp.kmv.ru] has joined #openttd 18:45:17 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26373 trunk/src/lang/hebrew.txt (2014-02-24 18:45:10 UTC) 18:45:18 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:19 <DorpsGek> hebrew - 30 changes by oofnik 18:49:51 *** rubenwardy [~rubenward@host86-150-141-115.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:00 *** killertester [~igor@pppoe-77-75-12-5.ppp.kmv.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause> "apple uses clang and the unreachable code warning is not part of '-W -Wall -Wextra'. but gcc also disabled the warning, because it would catch different parts of the code depending on which optimizer was used" 19:01:43 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: clearlu, you should -Weverything 19:02:28 <Eddi|zuHause> LordAro: that still does not help if they silently ignore the parameter 19:03:05 <frosch123> LordAro: you should be happy about everyone who pays attention to Wall output 19:03:29 <LordAro> :p 19:04:04 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:15 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.106] has joined #openttd 19:17:44 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:11 <Alberth> hi andy 19:20:00 <andythenorth> lo 19:21:06 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.103.106] has joined #openttd 19:21:43 <andythenorth> so doing a circular tile search in GetEffectiveWaterClass is probably stupid 19:21:50 <andythenorth> and it asserts, but meh 19:22:10 <andythenorth> a 'this is deep sea' flag on the tile would be better 19:22:18 <andythenorth> but it would have to be terraforming-aware 19:22:27 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26374 trunk/src/table/newgrf_debug_data.h (2014-02-24 19:22:22 UTC) 19:22:28 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5928]: Mixed up callback mask flags in station inspect window. (adf88) 19:23:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host58-55-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:25:34 <Wolf01> hello o/ 19:25:59 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-72-67.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 19:26:40 <andythenorth> lo Pikka Wolf01 19:26:51 <Pikka> lo bob 19:27:00 <andythenorth> mm pie 19:27:11 <Pikka> mmmmm 19:27:15 <Pikka> pie 19:27:58 <andythenorth> I can see a pie from here 19:28:58 <Pikka> well 19:28:59 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:29:03 <Pikka> when come back, bring pie 19:29:24 <andythenorth> when come back, bring patch 19:29:31 <andythenorth> for NewDeepWater 19:29:37 <andythenorth> oh, I've jinxed it 19:29:39 <andythenorth> with New 19:30:47 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: so what was the problem with my suggestion? 19:31:12 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: asserts, variable time to assert according to tile search distance 19:31:28 <andythenorth> 2 = as soon as start screen game appears 19:31:42 <andythenorth> at 50, I didn't see an assert, but didn't test for long 19:32:07 <andythenorth> also it might be doing a circular tile search every time the ship pathfinder runs? 19:32:27 <andythenorth> otherwise it appeared to work, as proof of concept at least 19:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause> solve things one step at a time 19:33:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i suggestes looking at the "make rainforest near water" code 19:33:32 <Eddi|zuHause> how they handle the map borders 19:33:58 <Pikka> Nudey Pwarter. 19:33:58 <andythenorth> they don't 19:34:04 <andythenorth> afaict 19:34:08 <andythenorth> 'it just works' tm 19:34:14 <andythenorth> same for lumber mill tile search 19:34:50 <Eddi|zuHause> as for the other thing, i suggested doing the search in TileLoop_Water, and then storing it in the tile 19:34:56 <andythenorth> +1 19:35:08 <andythenorth> not that my opinion is worth much here :) 19:35:29 <Eddi|zuHause> that part is easy, just write a map accessor and put it into water_map.h 19:35:54 <Eddi|zuHause> one that writes the bit(s) and one that reads them 19:36:50 *** xgz [~pnpablo93@178-37-206-131.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 19:37:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought about 3 values: 0: this tile is coast or near coast, 1: this tile is somewhat off the coast, 2: this is deep sea 19:37:17 *** xgz [~pnpablo93@178-37-206-131.adsl.inetia.pl] has left #openttd [] 19:37:21 <Eddi|zuHause> river ships would traverse 0 and 1, and sea ships 1 and 2 19:37:57 <andythenorth> makes sense 19:38:01 <andythenorth> is it overkill? 19:38:07 <Eddi|zuHause> no. 19:38:46 <Eddi|zuHause> means a 3 tile wide canal can be freely crossed by river ships, but also used by sea ships. and a dock can be accessed by river ships 19:38:56 <andythenorth> plz send me teh codez? o_O 19:39:02 <Eddi|zuHause> no. 19:39:14 <Eddi|zuHause> not doing any codez. 19:41:23 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: you would have to email it to me anyway. And I don't read email... 19:41:37 <Pikka> is we playing an ottd tonight, or do we have to be productive? 19:41:55 <Eddi|zuHause> then the code is in the mail :) 19:42:24 <Eddi|zuHause> Pikka: i haven't played openttd in over 2 years 19:42:28 <andythenorth> Pikka: either 19:42:40 <andythenorth> if there is a game I will play 19:42:47 <andythenorth> otherwise I will make internets 19:43:02 <frosch123> i would lilke to have more internets 19:43:08 <andythenorth> there is no shortage tbh 19:43:19 <andythenorth> in fact, I am making less internets, by deleting stuff 19:43:21 <frosch123> i have only 60% of my regular speed today 19:43:27 <andythenorth> well I am here to help 19:43:39 <andythenorth> I am removing pages, putting in linkrot protection, and removing inbound links 19:43:48 <frosch123> anyway, what to do about comments you don't understand? delete? 19:43:57 <andythenorth> probably 19:43:59 <Eddi|zuHause> there wasn't really anything worth my internets in the past few weeks 19:44:38 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: "//TODO: doesn't work <- WHAT doesn't work"? 19:44:44 <andythenorth> Pikka: have you made a game? 19:44:59 <Pikka> I have not 19:45:02 <frosch123> hmm, package loss again, i'll try reconnecting another time 19:45:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d011a6a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 19:53:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01d5ae.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:13 <andythenorth> someone make a game? 19:54:15 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 19:54:51 <Pikka> planetmaker? :D 19:55:06 <Pikka> didn't you make the last couple, andythenorth? 19:55:11 <andythenorth> yeah 19:55:16 <andythenorth> I am cooking and such 19:55:41 <andythenorth> try a different FIRS economy? 19:55:44 <andythenorth> one of the basic ones 19:56:14 <Pikka> hod is pretty good though 19:56:23 <Pikka> I could make a save but I don't know how to server 19:56:54 <Pikka> oh, there's that crash during window resize... 19:57:04 <andythenorth> make a save, someone else servers 19:57:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26375 /trunk/src (rail_gui.cpp station_cmd.cpp) (2014-02-24 19:57:18 UTC) 19:57:25 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5929]: Station sizes > 8 were always allowed. (adf88) 19:58:53 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:24 <Pikka> yes they do 19:59:57 <Pikka> so what did we say? 30k, 7 years? 20:00:03 <andythenorth> ok 20:00:10 <andythenorth> that is about 1.5 hours play iirc 20:00:29 <Pikka> was it 30k though? I don't recall 20:00:31 <andythenorth> we were starting 1950s or so before, something different? 20:00:35 <andythenorth> 30k is fine 20:00:46 <andythenorth> make sure it AV8s :) 20:02:18 <Alberth> @calc 7*13.505 20:02:18 <DorpsGek> Alberth: 94.535 20:04:37 <Pikka> generating a decent map is hard 20:04:49 <andythenorth> yes 20:04:54 <peter1139> rewrit eit 20:04:55 <peter1139> again 20:05:00 <andythenorth> took me ~40 attempts or so 20:05:09 <andythenorth> and you have to get a nice set of cargos for NCG 20:05:19 <andythenorth> newgame :P 20:05:21 <andythenorth> over and over again 20:05:49 <Pikka> is scrap metal a bad cargo? 20:06:26 <Pikka> coal, goods, and metal? 20:07:33 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i think you just broke the modern stations 20:08:22 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, no. i was just dragging the wrong direction 20:08:58 <andythenorth> Pikka: it's 'meh' 20:09:09 <andythenorth> coal, goods and metal are fine 20:09:37 <andythenorth> probably quite easy 20:09:42 <andythenorth> famous last wordses 20:09:52 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: please test, i didn't :p 20:10:36 <andythenorth> Pikka: where is map at? 20:10:37 <andythenorth> :D 20:10:42 <Pikka> still going :P 20:11:54 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: the berlin station can't be built in 8x8 anymore, only 8x4. but the error message is totally wrong, it says "cannot be built here" instead of something like "invalid size" 20:12:25 <Pikka> okay, I suppose this one will do 20:12:30 <Pikka> what do I with a savegame? 20:14:07 <Eddi|zuHause> man that set is totally awfully coded... 20:16:03 <andythenorth> Pikka: upload it somewhere, post a link 20:16:10 <andythenorth> then we hope someone knows the magic commands 20:17:09 <Pikka> http://pikkarail.com/junk/Unnamed,%201st%20Jan%201973.sav 20:19:24 <Pikka> it seems someone does... 20:22:03 <andythenorth> frosch123: Alberth Rubidium planetmaker et al - game on? 20:25:02 <Alberth> quite busy, and 1.5 hours is too late for me. Could do a bit though 20:25:09 <andythenorth> let's go! 20:25:17 <andythenorth> peter1139: play openttd? 20:26:47 <Alberth> where? 20:27:18 <peter1139> What's that? 20:28:31 <andythenorth> #openttdcoop.pro 20:29:43 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 20:33:31 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has quit [] 20:36:28 <andythenorth> why does in-game chat fail if I ask a question 20:36:29 <andythenorth> ? 20:36:35 <andythenorth> e.g. end the line in a ? char 20:36:43 <andythenorth> it's quite annoying :) 20:37:32 <Taede> ingame, or only the ingame->irc bit? 20:41:06 <andythenorth> ingame 20:42:19 <andythenorth> eats lines with punctuations chars 20:42:22 <andythenorth> intermittently 20:43:34 <Eddi|zuHause> osx issue? 20:59:20 <andythenorth> likely 21:23:16 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.25.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: When I come back I want to see you using the AdiIRC! 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