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07:09:36  <dihedral> good morning
07:13:32  <Supercheese> good night
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09:06:07  <supermop> hi
09:07:25  <maddy_> hi
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09:14:39  <supermop> how's it going
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09:15:22  <maddy_> working
09:19:55  <planetmaker> moin
09:20:01  <Xaroth|Work> o/
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11:12:52  <Pikka> apparently hippo birdies are due to peter1138
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12:30:16  <peter1138> oh aye
12:30:36  <Eddi|zuHause> "russian military takes over control of ukrainian war-dolphin and -sealion unit"
12:32:59  <Eddi|zuHause> "there are only two places where dolphin units are trained: Sewastopol and San Diego, both projects were started in the 1960s"
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12:34:41  <Pikka> there he is now, get him!
12:37:31  <Eddi|zuHause> "under ukrainian control, the unit was heavily underfunded, and it allegedly sold 30 trained animals to iran, including 3 cormorants and 1 beluga"
12:38:00  <Pikka> cormorants?
12:38:10  <Pikka> iran has... militarised cormorants?
12:38:38  <Pikka> what do they do?
12:38:46  <Pikka> build nuclear reactors?
12:39:52  <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably search and surveillance
12:40:04  <fjb> Moin
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12:40:26  <Pikka> boin
12:40:31  <peter1138> Hmm, something in my PC squeaks if a USB cable (unplugged both ends) touches the side of it.
12:40:49  <Pikka> mine did that
12:40:58  <Pikka> except it didn't squeak so much as completely lock up
12:41:01  <Eddi|zuHause> mine did that when the mouse moved
12:41:11  <Pikka> I ended up disconnecting the front panel from the motherboard
12:41:48  <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: sounds like something's not properly grounded
12:41:50  <Pikka> I think my old computer made noises when you moved the mouse, yes
12:41:51  <peter1138> Sounds like the harddrive doing something odd
12:41:56  <peter1138> Yeah
12:42:28  <peter1138> But the cable is ... free floating. What.
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12:59:21  <Pikka> aren't we all?
13:04:29  <heffer> oh well. i've updated Fedora rawhide NML to 0.3.0 and now opengfx 0.4.7 stopped building -.-
13:05:25  <heffer> looks like i have to push opengfx to a nightly then
13:10:40  <planetmaker> hm... need a new official release, heffer ?
13:11:16  <heffer> would be nice :D doesn't need to be that soon though
13:11:23  <heffer> whenever you see fit
13:11:26  <planetmaker> I've been postponing it due to the (lack of) amount of changes. But was planning to do for weeks
13:11:40  <planetmaker> changes visible to the user that is
13:11:51  <rubidium> planetmaker: if you want one for 1.4.0, then you probably need to hurry ;)
13:12:00  <rubidium> although... having said that... what about grfcodec?!?
13:12:28  <planetmaker> uh.... yeah
13:13:00  <planetmaker> I guess I can just tag tip of opengfx as 0.5.0. And grfcodec... could just get a next minor release, too?
13:15:11  <heffer> i'm refreshing the openttd buildstack anyway atm
13:15:31  <heffer> so if you say there will be new releases on the horizon i might wait a bit more
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13:16:16  <planetmaker> well, you can update it with the nightlies of opengfx and grfcodec. I shall prepare releases for those
13:16:35  <planetmaker> then the update should be minimal which you then need to get the official releases
13:16:49  <planetmaker> I can't promise today, but I'll try
13:17:11  <planetmaker> If things go smooth that might work
13:17:50  <heffer> okay. thanks a lot :)
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16:18:23  <mg_> hello, if i start playing 1.4.0-RC1, will my save be final-stable version compatible?
16:24:37  <Taede> should be
16:25:00  <Taede> future releases will retain compatibility to load saves made with older versions
16:25:25  <mg_> good, thx
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16:34:45  <M3Henry> Hello, I'm having some trouble compiling OpenTTD
16:37:03  <M3Henry> More specifically, I can't seem to run make with zlib
16:40:17  <rubidium> what's the exact error you're getting, and what environment are you using
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16:43:09  <andythenorth> thousands of hours? :o
16:43:13  <andythenorth> there are that many grfs?
16:43:29  <andythenorth> @calc 1000/24
16:43:29  <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 41.6666666667
16:43:41  <andythenorth> that’s more than a solid month of downloading grfs, with no sleep
16:43:43  * andythenorth considers trying it
16:44:13  <M3Henry> I'm using msys on windows 7. I'm not exactly getting an error, rather, it's spitting out what appears to be a bash script into stdout.
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16:53:58  <M3Henry> This is the output https://www.dropbox.com/s/gienka05v1gn1nd/Screenshot%202014-03-31%2017.52.40.png
16:59:31  <rubidium> what makes you think that it's showing an error?
16:59:50  <rubidium> looks like more or less normal behaviour to me
17:00:25  <M3Henry1> well when I go to configure libpng, it then says zlib isn;t installed
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17:00:48  <M3Henry1> :s
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17:02:33  <rubidium> then I have no clue, but I'm not using Windows/MinGW
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17:45:21  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26438 /trunk/src/lang (brazilian_portuguese.txt turkish.txt) (2014-03-31 17:45:13 UTC)
17:45:22  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:23  <DorpsGek> brazilian_portuguese - 2 changes by Tucalipe
17:45:24  <DorpsGek> turkish - 2 changes by wakeup
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18:10:21  <Wolf01> hi hi
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18:30:58  <M3Henry1> @rubidium I found out why libpng wasn't compiling
18:31:37  <M3Henry1> ./configure was missing LIBS="-L/zlib" CPPFLAGS="-I/zlib"
18:32:58  <planetmaker> M3Henry1, it necessarily misses it, if zlib cannot be detected. Or if zlib isn't forced
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18:34:43  <andythenorth> @seen pikka
18:34:43  <DorpsGek> andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 5 hours, 35 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Pikka> aren't we all?
18:36:07  <andythenorth> V453000: I just invented a style called Pixel Punk
18:36:23  <V453000> you get drunk and shit pixels on nearby wall?
18:36:38  <andythenorth> dunno yet
18:36:41  <andythenorth> I just do the names
18:37:03  <V453000> :d
18:38:00  <SpComb> Punk Pixel IPA
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18:46:29  <M3Henry1> Well now freetype is playing up...
18:47:32  <planetmaker> M3Henry1, that all sounds like you didn't properly install the deps, at least such that they're found in the expected paths
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18:49:05  <M3Henry1> hmm, I didn't notice can be downloaded through the mingw installation manager
18:52:26  <M3Henry1> yeah, that fixed libpng
18:55:04  <M3Henry1> Still getting unknown type names "off64_t" and "off_t"
18:55:32  <M3Henry1> Though it's not complaining about missing includes
18:55:46  <andythenorth> freetype is a bastard
18:55:53  <glx> ICU is worse
18:56:25  <M3Henry1> *much prefers compiling for avr*
19:04:58  <dizzy__> oh my god
19:05:06  <dizzy__> a +9, +9 longsword of draining
19:05:17  <dizzy__> got rC++ too
19:05:20  <planetmaker> wrong channel
19:05:26  <dizzy__> fuck
19:05:31  <dizzy__> i thought iw as in ##crawl
19:05:35  <dizzy__> whoops
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19:26:01  <frosch123> maybe there should be a rpg train set
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19:26:24  <frosch123> where wagons act like stuff you can put into your inventory to modify the train stats
19:26:36  <andythenorth> with a GS? o_O
19:26:58  <frosch123> wagon: +1 power, +1 envy
19:27:02  <andythenorth> so I could have an industry that produces mods?
19:27:08  <andythenorth> and then route trains there to collect mods?
19:27:20  <andythenorth> and then my train has different properties?
19:27:41  <andythenorth> can I combine this with Pixel Punk newgrf?
19:27:50  <frosch123> envy wagons drive faster if there is a golden wagon in front
19:31:38  <andythenorth> frosch123: I am serious :)
19:31:42  <andythenorth> are you? o_O
19:32:24  <M3Henry1> okay, So I found a solution to my problem with freetype, to change fram
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19:32:37  <M3Henry1> from strict ANSI to not strict
19:33:40  <M3Henry1> just how do I tell the compiler to use -std=gnu++11 in the makefile?
19:40:07  <linuxman> M3Henry1:: CFLAGS
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19:58:36  <planetmaker> heffer, NML 0.3.0, OpenGFX 0.5.0 and grfcodec 6.0.4 should now be available
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20:16:24  <dizzy__> i would totally play a rpg openttd with like looted trains and stuff
20:16:30  <dizzy__> would that even be possible to make?
20:23:29  <M3Henry1> fixed it, turns out zlib had some dodgy #defines
20:25:03  <Phreeze> lol dizzy__
20:25:15  <dizzy__> +3 bus of speed
20:32:09  <M3Henry1> Woo, it compiles, now to see if my changes don't break openttd
20:34:19  <andythenorth> still no new GS?
20:34:20  <andythenorth> :(
20:38:11  <frosch123> night
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20:57:57  <M3Henry1> with cargodist, how do I show the main window link overlay?
20:59:25  <M3Henry1> ah got it
21:03:14  <M3Henry1> Well now to make a patch and post it on the forums :£
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22:05:03  <Wolf01> 'night
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22:05:11  <supermop> good morning
22:06:49  <LordAro> so, is 1.4.0 coming tomorrow?
22:07:04  <LordAro> /later today, depending on timezone
22:10:44  <Eddi|zuHause> or in 2 weeks?
22:10:49  <Eddi|zuHause> nobody knows
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22:23:24  <planetmaker> tomorrow is even today. Who knows?
22:24:43  <Xaroth|Work> LordAro: people will be too busy catching all the pokemon to releaes anything
22:24:58  <Xaroth|Work> (google's new april first joke, for those who missed it: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/03/31/google-wants-this-april-fools-to-be-the-very-best-kicks-things-off-with-a-google-maps-pokmon-challenge/ )
22:25:11  <LordAro> ha :p
22:26:29  <supermop> i wonder if pikka will have spurred a more wholesale shift to rendered sprites
22:27:19  <supermop> i feel like one could make some nice EZ 8bit pixel art sprites with pixel tool
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22:28:55  <planetmaker> oh, one sure can
22:29:10  <planetmaker> I think he likes 32bpp now, though :)
22:29:16  <planetmaker> which is not bad really :)
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22:38:49  <supermop> i like the full zoom 8bppp sprites in the polish set a lot
22:39:07  <supermop> i wonder why we haven't seen any 32 bit pixel art
22:40:52  <planetmaker> well... you didn't look properly then: http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/other_tropic2.png
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22:44:39  <planetmaker> https://rhodecode.openttdcoop.org/pota-ghat/files/tip/gfx-source <-- the files tend to get a bit...big :)
22:51:03  <supermop> you are drawing that by hand?
22:52:34  <planetmaker> I took some textures and adjust and modify them or their alpha blending / layering  so that the tiles look like I want them to look.
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22:53:33  <planetmaker> so yes, it's a pixel-for-pixel adjustment and work
22:54:02  <planetmaker> especially the rivers and the light effects
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23:06:57  <supermop> sounds tedious
23:08:02  <planetmaker> well, if you have gimp you can get that file and see how I made those
23:08:50  <planetmaker> the river and canal is the real time eater. Would also be when modelling, I think
23:10:04  <planetmaker> and I got the textures; they are already great
23:10:21  <planetmaker> thanks to 0ad having nice graphics :)
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