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05:38:07  <supermop> hi
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07:51:07  <supermop> hi
07:52:11  <__ln___> hi supermop of .au
07:54:32  <supermop> yes
07:55:06  <supermop> formerly of .us, formerly of .dk formerly of .uk formerly of .us
07:56:10  <supermop> i want to make a tram set road map
07:56:48  <supermop> but i feel like it will just look embarrassing to post a thread about a set and risk not ever completing it
08:02:20  <Gallomimia> what if someone else completes it for you?
08:02:21  <supermop> so the road map is to either first draw 5 trams and then ask for someone to help code
08:03:00  <supermop> or first draw 5 sets of boxes, and try to code them myself
08:03:19  <supermop> and then probably abandon it at the 0.0.2 version
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08:22:33  <supermop> ok dinner
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10:32:40  <planetmaker> supermop, you should start with what you enjoy doing
10:33:00  <planetmaker> if you want to learn code NewGRFs: start with that. If you like rather get more experience drawing: do that
10:33:18  <planetmaker> supermop, it's supposed to be fun. That's the important thing
10:33:27  <planetmaker> if it's no fun to do - then you likely won't finish :)
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10:40:07  <sgiratch_> Hoi. Is there a list of new features or whatnot in the latest version?
10:40:19  <sgiratch_> Can't find anything
10:40:51  <supermop> planetmaker: that's why i never finished my sheds/stations
10:46:58  <planetmaker> sgiratch_, there's a changelog link on the download page: http://www.openttd.org/download-stable
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10:54:44  <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r26442 trunk/src/widgets/story_widget.h (2014-04-03 10:54:37 UTC)
10:54:45  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5962] Silence compiler warning by adding newline at end of file
10:57:41  <planetmaker> might be record. Commit message 79 times longer than patch :D
10:58:55  <mg_> :-)
10:59:48  <sgiratch_> Great. Thanks planetmaker
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11:06:18  <maddy_> nice one planetmaker, small change but still the feeling of accomplishment for making a commit
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11:35:42  <planetmaker> more to clean-up the bug list ;)
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14:44:27  <Eddi|zuHause> "court in cologne decides: 'damage' in filesharing case reduced from the demanded 2500€ to 130€ (10€ per piece)"
14:45:47  <Eddi|zuHause> "with popular files, the effect of a signle individual taking part in filesharing is minimal"
14:49:21  <Eddi|zuHause> anyone can explain me the difference between xkcd 1349 and 1350?
14:51:40  <rubidium> 1350 is the one from Tuesday (not, as one would expect Wednesday)
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15:13:58  <Eddi|zuHause> that does not explain anything
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15:47:46  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: the title of 1350 is 'Lorenz', its aspect ratio is totally different as are graphics and text. So... why do you want to compare them?
15:48:29  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i don't see a difference in aspect ratio?
15:49:04  <planetmaker> there was a muck-up for me earlier as in that they seemed the same. But they aren't
15:49:14  <planetmaker> they're totally different
15:53:35  <Eddi|zuHause> they seem the same for me.
15:55:22  <Eddi|zuHause> and why exists there a "reverse youtube playlists" plugin for chorme, but not for firefox. and why is that not a default feature anyway?
15:56:05  <Eddi|zuHause> most channels order their videos newest-to-oldest, but when you're new to a channel, you'd more likely watch oldest-to-newest
15:58:40  <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r26443 trunk/known-bugs.txt (2014-04-03 15:58:34 UTC)
15:58:41  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5963]: Update documentation on how to solve the 'No suitable AI can be found' situation
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18:23:50  <andythenorth> I fricking hate this weak-minded refusal to say anything is bad
18:23:59  <andythenorth> if some things are good, or great, other things are bad
18:24:04  <andythenorth> that’s how it works
18:24:46  <andythenorth> oops
18:26:41  <Pikka> BAD FEETURES
18:27:28  <planetmaker> bad feet cures
18:27:31  <planetmaker> or so ;)
18:28:27  <andythenorth> Pikka: you are bad feature
18:28:39  <Pikka> mebe
18:28:39  <andythenorth> GS is bad feature
18:28:47  <Pikka> deffo
18:28:49  * andythenorth is badass feature
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18:37:00  <Wolf01> hello
18:50:23  <__ln___> http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757
18:54:32  <Wolf01> lucky
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19:46:19  <frosch123> someone is complaining about 150 grfs? :p
19:46:29  <frosch123> how cute
19:46:55  <Pikka> if they're 32bpp, that could be 20gb worth :P
19:47:44  <frosch123> well, i had in mind to cache the scan resuilt; but then i noticed that it is actually way faster when not using a debug build, so i dropped the plan as tmwftlb
19:49:08  <Pikka> I removed all grfs I wasn't currently using, and the scan didn't seem to be much faster
19:49:28  <frosch123> how long does it take for you?
19:49:52  <Pikka> about 5 seconds
19:50:19  <planetmaker> that's about the same here, too. With a bit more than 5k grfs
19:50:30  <planetmaker> 1k
19:50:45  <Pikka> "estimated 68 newgrfs"
19:50:51  <planetmaker> :)
19:51:08  <planetmaker> 2nd startup is WAY faster
19:52:12  * Pikka bedtime
19:52:15  <Pikka> gnight all
19:53:15  <planetmaker> sleep well
19:53:18  <frosch123> i am always surprised how long it actually takes to load ottd on first start
19:53:29  <planetmaker> you've a strange sleep pattern, Pikka
19:53:30  <frosch123> it seems to take ages to load weird shared libraries
19:53:36  <planetmaker> or your not down under :)
19:53:38  <Pikka> only sometimes
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19:54:44  <frosch123> 50+15 seconds on first start, 4+3 seconds on second start (start of ottd+grfscan)
19:56:16  <frosch123> without optimizer the grfscan takes 7 instead of 3 seconds
20:03:38  <planetmaker> what kind of 'optimizer'?
20:03:52  <frosch123> enable-debug vs enable-debug=3
20:04:09  <frosch123> i.e. O2 or no optimization
20:04:30  <planetmaker> Anyhow, I believe we have more important things to fix than the start-up time
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20:04:41  <planetmaker> we're pretty good in comparison to most games
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20:06:15  <andythenorth> what we’re really short of is GS :D
20:06:25  <planetmaker> yeah
20:06:33  <andythenorth> if I wasn’t such a bad programmer, I’d try one
20:06:38  <andythenorth> but there we have the problem
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20:32:24  <frosch123> night
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21:09:05  <planetmaker> g'night
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21:40:22  <varbles> hey guys
21:40:27  <varbles> huge ottd fan
21:41:08  <varbles> just wondering if anyone has any advice for timetabling a route with a conditional order jump
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22:20:51  <Wolf01> 'night
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22:46:12  <NGC3982> Evening.
22:46:17  <NGC3982> I do not hate locale as much any more.
22:48:18  <__ln___> NGC3982: vad sjunger man nÀr nån fyller hundra år eller mera?
22:50:09  <NGC3982> You don't.
22:50:47  <NGC3982> If you do, a matter feedback loop will be created, and we will seize to exist.
22:51:58  <__ln___> oh pity
22:52:36  <NGC3982> By the way, i actually had to check where on IRC i was, since you talked swedish. :-P
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22:58:17  <__ln___> :)
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