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00:09:22 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:18:16 <encoded> when is openttd 3d comming out? 00:18:58 <encoded> in windows does openttd use DX, OGL or GDI ? 00:27:21 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.98.89] has joined #openttd 00:34:35 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:37:08 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:54:45 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 00:56:53 *** montalvo [~montalvo@c-76-103-107-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 00:58:06 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:58 <glx> encoded: GDI 01:03:30 <encoded> and on linux ? 01:03:37 <glx> SDL 01:03:47 <encoded> why not use SDL on windows? 01:05:32 *** trendynick [~trendynic@188.26.254.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:06:08 <glx> SDL is not used on OSX either 01:07:31 <encoded> what then? 01:07:41 <glx> native stuff 01:07:47 <encoded> cool cool 01:08:02 <encoded> does it use CreateWindows and such for game windows?? 01:08:11 <encoded> the api 01:08:16 <glx> only for the main window 01:08:22 <encoded> good good 01:08:40 <encoded> the rest is just drawn with magic 01:08:41 <glx> internal windows are just drawn on the screen 01:09:18 <encoded> where can i get a linux windowing system like ttd's ? hehe 01:18:37 <Xaroth|Work> make one 01:27:29 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 01:28:21 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 01:29:07 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 01:38:36 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 02:12:21 *** encoded [~oftc-webi@adsl-72-50-82-19.prtc.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:31 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:24:08 *** kero [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 04:12:49 *** montalvo [~montalvo@c-76-103-107-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:13:17 *** montalvo [~montalvo@c-76-103-107-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66F30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66434.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:13:35 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:24:39 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 06:37:00 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:44:31 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47:53 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:53:38 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:56:45 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 06:58:58 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 07:00:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:00:59 <andythenorth> o/ 07:01:27 <Rubidium> morning andy 07:06:32 *** wakou [~stephen@host86-177-164-143.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:08:01 *** Smedles_ [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 07:08:49 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17:32 <andythenorth> cat is where? 07:17:46 <Rubidium> cat is with sam 07:18:37 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 07:18:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:19:03 <andythenorth> here is cat 07:33:37 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 07:35:32 <Alberth> hi cat 07:47:30 * andythenorth saves time on compiles 07:47:39 <andythenorth> by spending days re-building the compile 07:54:10 <andythenorth> ugh, there is going to be One Giant Commit when this is done 07:55:09 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:55:46 * Alberth quotes the relevant xkcd cartoon 07:56:29 <Alberth> but think of all the new things you learned :) 07:56:57 <andythenorth> ultimately it makes a better structured project 07:57:18 <andythenorth> making it work with partial compiles and multiprocessing requires removal of string 07:57:29 <andythenorth> string is bad 07:59:10 *** pipeep [~pipeep@2605:6400:10:a15d:ca7:ea75:b12d:dead] has joined #openttd 08:00:10 <pipeep> Hey, I'm having issues connecting to my OpenTTD server over IPv6. Can someone else with an IPv6 connection try to connect to my server, so I can see if the problem is on comcast's side, or on my server's side? 08:00:20 <pipeep> ipv6.b.enjam.info 08:00:56 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:00:58 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:12 <pipeep> It's really strange because IPv4 works, and I can ping6 my server 08:06:13 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:06:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.181.24] has joined #openttd 08:06:43 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:12:08 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:13:04 <Rubidium> maybe there's no port forwarding set up for IPv6? Or the firewall is blocking IPv6? 08:13:36 <pipeep> Rubidium, I don't have a firewall 08:14:00 <peter1138> You should :) 08:14:06 <pipeep> Rubidium, and there's no port forwarding involved. I'm using a server from a real hosting provider (not some home router) 08:14:14 <pipeep> So the box has a dedicated IPv4 and IPv6 08:14:40 <pipeep> peter1138, there's issues with UFW and OpenVZ 08:14:42 <peter1138> You can connect to it via ssh right? 08:14:54 <pipeep> Yeah, and ping6 works 08:14:58 <peter1138> ufw...? 08:15:07 <pipeep> It's a iptables configuration tool 08:15:29 <peter1138> Oh, I tend to just use iptables direct. 08:15:42 <pipeep> And I know UDP traffic over IPv6 works because I use mosh, and that works over UDP 08:16:16 <peter1138> OpenTTD is TCP, bar the server list stuff. 08:16:17 <pipeep> peter1138, Yeah I think that would work, I'm just too lazy to learn another tool 08:16:28 <pipeep> Well, TCP works too 08:17:02 <peter1138> I'd like to test, but I don't have anything with ipv6... 08:17:07 <Rubidium> pipeep: what ports/addresses does openttd say it's listening on when starting openttd with -D? 08:17:34 <Rubidium> or rather, just paste the whole output (pastebin or so) 08:17:36 <peter1138> ACtually I have access to one box with ipv6. 08:18:16 <peter1138> pipeep, 3979 is open from. 08:18:32 <peter1138> from? heh 08:18:35 <pipeep> http://pastie.org/9424183 08:18:50 <peter1138> $ telnet ipv6.b.enjam.info 3979 08:18:50 <peter1138> Trying 2605:6400:10:a15d:feed:face:dead:beef... 08:18:50 <peter1138> Connected to ipv6.b.enjam.info. 08:18:50 <peter1138> Escape character is '^]'. 08:18:50 <peter1138> nnection closed by foreign host. 08:19:52 <Rubidium> okay, it's at least binding to ipv6. So not binding is ruled out as well 08:21:11 <pipeep> I ran `telnet ipv6.b.enjam.info 3979` on my local box just now, and that works 08:21:20 <Rubidium> too bad the tunnel IPv6 thing was just too unreliable, so I'm not using it anymore and don't have IPv6 connectivity (yay provider for promising to deliver IPv6 connectivity in summer of 2013...) 08:21:48 <peter1138> I think my provider does, but... my router isn't capable. 08:21:57 <Rubidium> peter1138: how quickly did the connection close? 08:22:05 <pipeep> Yeah, comcast sucks, but at least they have IPv6 support 08:22:06 <Rubidium> immediately or after a few seconds? 08:22:10 <peter1138> After a few seconds. 08:22:17 <pipeep> peter1138, my parents are in the same situation. 08:22:31 <Rubidium> then that's likely OpenTTD killing it due to idling 08:22:43 <Rubidium> don't think comcast provides service here 08:25:08 <pipeep> When it kills my telnet session, the I get the message in the openttd log: dbg: [net] [admin] Admin did not send its authorisation within 10 seconds 08:25:19 <pipeep> So yes, it's just OpenTTD killing the session for idling 08:28:19 <pipeep> If it helps, my server log shows I'm getting packets from the client: dbg: [net] [udp] queried from 2601:8:b180:205:2030:b886:ce3d:1d8d 08:28:31 <pipeep> Where 2601:8:b180:205:2030:b886:ce3d:1d8d is my comcast IP 08:39:24 <pipeep> I can connect to other IPv6 OpenTTD servers... 08:42:33 <pipeep> hmm... mosh is ipv4 only, so maybe udp over ipv6 truly is broken for my provider (although that doesn't explain why telnet gets through) 08:42:54 <pipeep> er... actually it does, telnet is tcp. 08:43:01 <pipeep> God it's late here. 08:46:51 <pipeep> The mystery deepens: http://pastie.org/9424218 08:47:57 <pipeep> Eh, I'll deploy openttd to my testing box on a different provider tomorrow, and see if that has issues. 08:51:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19833.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:00:47 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:58 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:40:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:40:27 <Wolf01> hi hi 09:41:24 <Wolf01> the silly fact is that I started mIRC about 1 hour and half ago, but never connected 09:43:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:44:11 *** shirish_ [~quassel@59.94.124.189] has joined #openttd 09:47:07 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:dc0e:e622:2e7e:8dc9] has joined #openttd 09:49:09 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 09:51:03 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:52:41 <Alberth> welcome :) 09:54:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f743652.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:24 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:39 *** Pereba 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[~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:51 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:23 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 11:34:35 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-8421.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 11:34:41 <Phreeze> gday 11:35:15 <Alberth> o/ 11:38:01 <Phreeze> i think i'm starting a game in 32bpp 11:38:16 <Phreeze> first time ever (besides an early version waaaaaaaaaaay back when only trains were 32bpp) 11:39:26 <kero> Never tried yet 11:40:03 <Phreeze> it's not easy to find out WHICH newgrfs have 32bpp.... 11:40:15 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.179.31.124] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC is updating to v1.9.4 Beta Build (2014/07/27) 64 Bit] 11:40:25 <kero> the new one of V453000 does 11:40:33 <kero> YETI 11:40:38 <Phreeze> 287mb for yeti and pine xD 11:40:45 <Phreeze> yes i know them + zbase 11:40:51 <Phreeze> but there are more... 11:40:52 <kero> there's also the last of Pikkabird 11:40:53 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.179.31.124] has joined #openttd 11:40:59 <kero> Don't remember the name 11:41:05 <Phreeze> 8/32bpp 2CC trains, obviously 11:44:57 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:48:14 <Rubidium> Phreeze: >50 MiB... likely 32bpp, <200kiB... likely not 32bpp 11:49:04 <Rubidium> also... 32bpp is ambiguous 11:49:39 <Rubidium> is a NewGRF with 32bpp normal zoom sprites only 32bpp enough for you? Or is it more about the larger/higher resolution sprites? 11:52:51 <Phreeze> it should look "other than 8bpp" :D 11:53:12 <Phreeze> i must say, i really hate the 32bpp GUI. it's just ugly... 11:53:32 <Phreeze> and still dont get it why the "train" symbol etc. are so small 11:54:02 <Phreeze> those gradiants...arff...it looks like a child has drawn them or like they are still temporary pictures 11:54:26 <Alberth> fire up the sprite editor, and make better ones :) 11:54:33 <Alberth> ranting here doesn't fix it 11:58:03 <Rubidium> you mean zbase? The set effectively made by one drawer, making about 10.000 sprites in about 3.5 months, just so there would be a 32bpp base set that people can build upon 12:00:01 <Rubidium> for what it's worth, the first opengfx alpha came out a mere 11 months after they (a group) started 12:00:37 <Rubidium> the first non alpha another 10-11 months later 12:02:27 <Rubidium> oh... after basically 24 months from the announcement the first "complete" OpenGFX was released. zBase after ~3 months 12:02:41 <Rubidium> no wonder zBase isn't looking as finished 12:03:27 <LordAro> zeph did most of the ogfx sprites himself as well 12:05:31 <Phreeze> i know, i appreciate the really good work 12:05:37 <Phreeze> but the gui is uncool ^^ 12:09:32 <LordAro> make new ones then ;) 12:11:02 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:20 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:15:18 <Phreeze> i'm horrible at it :) i'm just good at ranting ;) 12:18:52 <Alberth> you're creating a negative mood in the channel for no good reason 12:23:22 *** guru3 [~guru3@000128ea.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:54 <Phreeze> .. 12:24:10 <Phreeze> srsly...it's my right to discuss stuff.... 12:24:12 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.179.31.124] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:52 <Phreeze> i just think, that 32bpp looks really nice, especially all the trains, wagons etc, but the gui creates a contrast to this 12:25:15 <Phreeze> my opinion..if we dont chat/discuss, we dont need an irc channel... 12:30:23 *** jjavaholic_ [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 12:34:32 <Alberth> discussing would be about solving the problem, wouldn't it? 12:34:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:34:52 <Alberth> hi andy 12:35:08 <Phreeze> no, it's about talking aboth sth 12:35:18 <Phreeze> with different views 12:35:23 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 12:35:41 <Phreeze> a bit like the bad features thread ;) 12:39:51 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 12:42:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:58 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 13:03:47 *** jrambo [~jrambo@93-87-175-81.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 13:08:10 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 13:08:23 *** Guest2870 [~jrambo@178-221-90-42.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:33 <V453000> trying to continue with yeti ... sprite: sprite_industry_3X_tile00_under(14); screams "sprite_industry_3X_tile00_under is not defined as a function ... what do I do with this? it looks like this in the sprite layout http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3551/ 13:16:28 <Rubidium> apparantly the function doesn't exist (different name?); might it be 3x? 13:16:31 <Alberth> line 7 says "...anim" 13:17:15 <Alberth> hmm, that seems correct, you didn't paste both names :( 13:17:35 <V453000> it is a spriteset 13:17:43 <V453000> hm 13:17:56 <Alberth> like RB says, the common mistake is a typo in the name 13:18:10 <V453000> OMG 13:18:11 <V453000> :D 13:18:13 <V453000> it indeed doesnt exist 13:18:16 <V453000> just did ctrlf 13:18:17 <V453000> :D 13:18:44 <Alberth> yep, computers are much better readers than us :p 13:19:04 <V453000> oh yeah I see the issue now 13:19:16 <V453000> that is exactly what happens if you stop doing something without finishing it 13:19:18 <V453000> :D 13:19:35 <V453000> it was not 3X at all, I Actually removed the identifier because I made one "under" for all industries 13:19:43 <V453000> and obviously I forgot about that 13:19:47 <V453000> (: thanks :D 13:19:48 <Alberth> yeah, you are not to leave the computer until all yeti is finished :p 13:19:55 <V453000> . 13:33:32 *** guru3 [~guru3@000128ea.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:43:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:54 <Phreeze> V453000 : could you just add a transparency-effect ? i often build tracks and stations in transparent mode, so i can see slopes etc. but i often run into the yeti industries ^^ 13:58:25 <Phreeze> (is it the basement-gfx ? whatever it is called, it is "invisible" at the moment ;) ) 14:00:21 <Eddi|zuHause> it needs a custom "ground sprite" 14:00:22 <Phreeze> hm and what wagons can transport grain ? i think i miss some Newgrf 14:00:43 <Phreeze> grain hopper can not be refitted to "grain" xD 14:00:59 <Eddi|zuHause> from the base set? 14:01:01 <Phreeze> using 8/32bpp 2cc trains and pineaccle 14:01:09 <Phreeze> *pineapple trains 14:01:31 <Phreeze> from any set ^^ 14:01:31 <Eddi|zuHause> that's probably a bug in the train set 14:02:16 <Eddi|zuHause> train set should just accept any cargo configuration the industry throws at it 14:02:23 <Eddi|zuHause> no matter how weird it is 14:02:43 <Eddi|zuHause> "you want grain transported as liquid? sure." 14:03:32 <Phreeze> hm im not ok with that 14:03:47 <Phreeze> are the opengfx+ train 0.3.0 in 32bit too ? 14:04:07 <Eddi|zuHause> probably some alpha versions 14:11:32 <V453000> Phreeze: yeti explicitly says it is recommended to use nuts :) I have no idea about other train sets 14:13:27 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: so what weird things do you set for cargo classes? 14:13:33 <V453000> idk 14:13:43 <V453000> see the source 14:21:51 <Phreeze> you are the source :D 14:23:16 <V453000> yes but I have lesser clue about the cargo, I coded it as I thought is fine 14:23:23 <V453000> so I dont have any other answer for eddi :) 14:24:38 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30:15 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 14:32:30 <Phreeze> perhaps you can look into the "grain" code :) thx in advance ;) 14:32:58 <V453000> just use nuts for now 14:36:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:58:48 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-8421.vo.lu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:57 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:29 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-8421.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 15:45:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:04:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:04:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 16:06:24 <V453000> hm my thing is now https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/3X_FIXED.png 16:06:25 <V453000> :d 16:06:34 <V453000> both animation and underlay broken :D 16:07:24 <Alberth> open air factory! 16:12:42 <peter1138> :D 16:20:12 <LSky`> was there a way to switch to a certain order instead of skipping through each one ? 16:20:52 <Alberth> not that I am aware of 16:23:37 <Eddi|zuHause> select it and ctrl+click on "skip order" 16:25:10 <Alberth> :o 16:26:07 <Eddi|zuHause> hidden features are hidden :) 16:37:27 <kero> Succeded. Vehicles are waiting in depots :) 16:38:32 <kero> Should help for better timetabling ... 16:43:56 <LSky`> thanks Eddi|zuHause 16:44:41 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:02 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:54:24 <LordAro> this is fun, i have a python program which responds to INT, but not TERM 16:54:48 <LordAro> so i have to close my terminal window to kill it 16:54:59 <Alberth> kill -9 :) 16:55:07 <LordAro> or that :) 16:55:17 <LordAro> and the best part, the backtrace is coming from inside the stdlib 16:56:03 <LordAro> http://fpaste.org/121248/79427140/ 16:57:05 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 16:59:38 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:27 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:12 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:21 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard 17:11:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19833.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:26:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:41:41 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:dc0e:e622:2e7e:8dc9] has quit [Quit: .] 17:42:20 *** Yotson [~Yotson@erpaderp.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:44:52 *** welterde [welterde@000133b4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26704 trunk/src/lang/slovak.txt (2014-07-27 17:45:52 UTC) 17:46:01 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:02 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 1 changes by 17:46:03 <DorpsGek> slovak - 5 changes by Milsa 17:46:51 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26705 trunk/src/lang/slovak.txt (2014-07-27 17:46:46 UTC) 17:46:52 <DorpsGek> -Fix: WT3 validation error 17:55:47 *** Speedy` [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has joined #openttd 17:56:04 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 18:03:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:22 *** shirish_ [~quassel@59.94.124.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06:09 *** shirish [~quassel@59.94.124.189] has joined #openttd 18:14:14 *** Brumi_ [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 18:16:09 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26706 trunk/src/vehicle.cpp (2014-07-27 18:16:03 UTC) 18:16:10 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6015] (r20644): wrong breakdown sound was played for ships 18:19:27 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:34:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:25 <andythenorth> la la la 18:47:51 <Eddi|zuHause> the song goes "la le lu" 18:48:25 *** Brumi_ is now known as Brumi 18:48:43 <andythenorth> is it worth caring about StringIO versus cStringIO for a couple of hundred lines? 18:49:27 <SpComb> profile first, then optimize 18:52:26 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:52 <andythenorth> my guess is more time spent profiling than will be saved in next ~ 2 years 18:53:06 <Eddi|zuHause> then don't do it 18:53:08 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:04 <andythenorth> is there a nice one-liner in python 2 to get me the last non-blank line of a file? 19:06:33 <andythenorth> how about 19:06:34 <andythenorth> filter(None, (line.rstrip() for line in dummy_nfo.readlines()))[-1] 19:07:20 *** Yotson [~Yotson@erpaderp.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: .] 19:09:10 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you need that for? 19:11:40 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i'd have some performance concerns about building a list when iterating would be enough 19:12:03 <andythenorth> alternative method? 19:12:35 <andythenorth> I am just doing c+p from stack overflow, so chances are thereâs a better way 19:12:36 <Eddi|zuHause> hundreds 19:12:46 <andythenorth> this is just to find the last line of dummy.nfo to split on it 19:13:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds dangerous 19:13:29 <andythenorth> it is 19:13:35 <andythenorth> Iâm accepting the ris 19:13:37 <andythenorth> risk * 19:13:47 <andythenorth> until someone commits a comments patch, there isnât a better way afaict 19:14:05 <Eddi|zuHause> use eddi_nml 19:14:27 <Eddi|zuHause> you can configure the devzone to use it 19:14:46 <andythenorth> is it maintained? 19:14:56 <Eddi|zuHause> sporadically 19:15:01 <andythenorth> :) 19:15:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i updated it a few weeks ago 19:15:34 *** welterde [welterde@000133b4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:01 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:57 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 19:49:49 <andythenorth> grrr 19:49:59 <andythenorth> I canât get nmlc to encode the lang strings using partial nfo 19:50:25 <andythenorth> this is specific to cargos 19:55:09 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 20:00:55 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:17 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:57 *** Smedles_ [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:04:14 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 20:12:00 <Eddi|zuHause> then just don't do it. 20:12:06 <Eddi|zuHause> keep the cargos in the main header 20:12:50 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-8421.vo.lu] has quit [] 20:14:32 <andythenorth> Iâm concatenating the header with the cargo nml before calling nmlc 20:14:59 <andythenorth> nmlc isnât writing any strings out 20:15:17 <andythenorth> any / some /s 20:16:01 <andythenorth> hmm 20:16:14 * andythenorth tests something 20:17:53 <andythenorth> ho 20:18:37 <andythenorth> this nml *does* produce a valid single-cargo grf when encoded directly with nmlc 20:18:38 <andythenorth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3554/ 20:18:42 <andythenorth> so the nml looks ok 20:18:51 * andythenorth one step at a time 20:22:37 <andythenorth> and the nml -> nfo -> grfcodec grf looks ok 20:22:43 <andythenorth> for that nml 20:31:49 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:38:53 * andythenorth moves the cargos into the header :P 20:41:02 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:45:32 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 20:50:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:46 <andythenorth> meh 20:51:13 <andythenorth> nmlc is writing the action 4s in with a lot of other header stuff 20:51:27 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:51:31 <andythenorth> I need to split the header, or I have invalid grf due to too many action 8s 20:51:38 <andythenorth> invalid grf / nfo /s 20:51:48 <andythenorth> splitting the header loses the strings 20:52:18 <frosch123> filter the intermediate files for action 8/14? 20:52:22 <andythenorth> I could write my own action 4s out and concatenate them, but it wonât work 20:52:31 <andythenorth> yeah, Iâll have to filter on action 8 or so 20:52:32 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52:50 <andythenorth> could I teach nmlc to drop actions by number? 20:52:52 <andythenorth> on output? 20:53:06 <andythenorth> could / should 20:53:13 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:30 <frosch123> you could also try to let all files output the strings even, and drop them for all but one again 20:53:38 <frosch123> if you are lucky they will use the same ids 20:54:22 <andythenorth> thatâs roughly what Iâm trying to do 20:54:35 <andythenorth> but I canât think how to reliably split the action 8 off 20:54:57 <andythenorth> this is a non-problem for trains, nmlc writes the action 4s out conveniently near to the action 0s 20:55:02 <andythenorth> not up with the header stuff 20:55:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i can only repeat what i said before 20:55:39 <andythenorth> go on then :| 20:56:12 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:57:13 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:48 <andythenorth> I could move all the industries into the header too 20:57:51 <andythenorth> maybe that would work ok 21:01:59 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 21:03:14 <Eddi|zuHause> well the whole concept always was fragile because it depended on nmlc not reordering stuff too far 21:04:22 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 21:06:43 <andythenorth> itâs so close to working 21:06:53 <andythenorth> but itâs going to end up held together with tape 21:06:56 <andythenorth> not good 21:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, it's easy to filter out action 4, because you know exactly which byte to grep for. just make sure you get all the relevant lines afterwards 21:16:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the most sophisticated approach would be to modify a tool like nforenum, which already has a full nfo parser and output 21:16:43 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:05 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 21:23:32 <andythenorth> just got one step closer 21:23:40 <andythenorth> cargo names were working 21:23:47 <andythenorth> now industry extra text is working too 21:27:43 <andythenorth> but industry names are all âAlcoholâ :P 21:30:44 <V453000> sounds good to me 21:33:41 <Eddi|zuHause> something completely different: i always wondered why the game doesn't force loading openttd.grf before loading the base set? it's the only base grf file that ever changes, so why rely on outside projects to get updated, when all the necessary data is there anyway? 21:34:27 <Eddi|zuHause> in the worst case, the data is overwritten by the base set anyway 21:36:33 <Wolf01> 'night 21:36:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:36:47 <andythenorth> if I encode just (for example) aluminium_plant.nfo, then I also get a valid grf, with all cargos and one industry 21:36:58 <andythenorth> so I guess Iâm going to have to do a more sophisticated split 21:37:25 <andythenorth> I have *zero* idea how to work nforenum 21:37:43 <andythenorth> but the idea of having args to drop certain actions - sensible? 21:40:09 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:44:01 <frosch123> maybe you can instruct nforenum to refomat the grf to not use any linebreaks within nfo lines 21:44:10 <frosch123> then it is an easy grep filter to get rid of actions 21:46:18 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 21:47:31 <andythenorth> turn off the beautifier 21:47:33 <andythenorth> might work 21:49:46 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [] 21:51:51 <__ln__> http://i.imgur.com/9cV7VYK.jpg (fake or not?) 21:52:40 <andythenorth> I could probably dump in all the industries, and their extra text cbs 21:52:51 <glx> probably fake __ln__ 21:53:03 <andythenorth> compiling those still wouldnât take long compared to all spritelayouts crap 21:53:06 <glx> IIRC steam uses a dropdown 21:53:26 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 21:53:27 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 21:53:30 <__ln__> :( 22:00:07 *** Rarn [~Rarn@74.44.229.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19833.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:47 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:49 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 22:08:20 *** jrambo [~jrambo@93-87-175-81.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:03 *** jrambo [~jrambo@93-87-175-81.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 22:16:37 <frosch123> night 22:16:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f743652.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:17:01 *** Smedles_ [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 22:17:23 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:39 *** Rarn [~Rarn@static-74-43-117-212.fnd.frontiernet.net] has joined #openttd 22:18:47 <andythenorth> bye 22:18:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:22:07 *** urdh [urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: boom] 22:31:28 *** Smedles_ [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:52 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:16 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 22:46:21 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:30 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 22:52:58 *** urdh [urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd