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07:32:11  <Alberth> mornink
07:36:58  <keoz> hi
07:48:11  <Pikka> harro
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07:56:56  <Alberth> oi andy
07:58:50  <andythenorth> moin
08:02:08  <Pikka> how much wood would a woodship ship if a woodship could ship wood?
08:03:34  <andythenorth> 240t
08:03:36  <andythenorth> or 400t
08:03:39  <andythenorth> you can refit
08:03:49  <Pikka> refittable capacity
08:03:52  <Pikka> ridiculous
08:03:59  <andythenorth> witchcraft
08:04:26  <Pikka> anything which requires writing strings is a bad feature
08:04:46  <andythenorth> names
08:04:50  <andythenorth> nothing should have names
08:04:52  <andythenorth> just print the ID
08:04:58  <andythenorth> 0x0001 etc
08:04:58  <Pikka> pretty much
08:05:07  <andythenorth> I don’t like the black ones https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6386/squid_brit.png
08:05:17  <Pikka> names are okay, because names are meaningless
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08:05:23  <andythenorth> I didn’t draw them, so it’s a bit rude to criticise
08:05:25  <Pikka> they don't have to convey any information
08:05:38  <Wolf01> 'lo
08:05:56  <andythenorth> shall I company colour them?
08:06:12  <Pikka> I wouldn't be at all surprised
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08:06:51  <andythenorth> but it’s not realism bob
08:07:01  <Pikka> who's realism bob?
08:07:17  <andythenorth> I haven’t seen him
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08:08:47  <andythenorth> the things is
08:08:58  <andythenorth> before color photography all ships were black
08:09:09  <andythenorth> and openttd must be realistical
08:09:36  <Pikka> just start the set in 1983
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08:09:39  <Pikka> like WAS
08:11:58  <andythenorth> is idea
08:12:16  <andythenorth> but I think we all know that I’m going to have to repaint them :(
08:12:43  <andythenorth> with guilt
08:12:44  <Pikka> they're tres dither
08:12:49  <Pikka> needs more 32bpp ;)
08:14:15  <Pikka> three shades of black is not enough
08:14:23  <andythenorth> you and your millions of colours
08:14:44  <andythenorth> you could renderise some ships
08:15:02  <Pikka> yebbut
08:15:05  <Pikka> I could
08:15:11  <andythenorth> exactly
08:15:20  <Pikka> should I prioritise ships over aircraft, then?
08:15:31  <andythenorth> hmm
08:15:35  <andythenorth> AV9 is ‘done’ no?
08:15:39  <andythenorth> I like it anyway
08:15:42  <Alberth> ha, /me likes the idea of having b/w ships before some year :)
08:16:09  <Pikka> the whole game should be sepia toned before 1950
08:16:12  <Alberth> although it fits more in Vs street
08:16:17  <andythenorth> Pikka: that is a good idea
08:16:19  <andythenorth> let’s do that
08:16:50  <Alberth> aircraft are mostly white, so that's done :)
08:17:00  <andythenorth> get peter1138 to write a palette transform for the whole game
08:18:21  <andythenorth> Pikka: you had a tracking table for ships?  It had 3 things on it?
08:18:29  <Pikka> did I?
08:18:43  <Pikka> maybe a long time ago, I'm sure it's terrible...
08:18:49  <andythenorth> I may have imagined it
08:19:36  <Pikka> I'll make a new one for pineapple... but with rendererering, it should be easy enough to make more variations on ships for FISH, even if pineappleboats only has 3 things.
08:20:08  <andythenorth> there’s only really 2 boats in FISH
08:20:13  <andythenorth> all the others are copy-paste :P
08:20:40  <Pikka> but the hovercraft!
08:20:56  <andythenorth> oh yes
08:21:28  <andythenorth> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=srn+6&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1276&bih=668&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=-9nlU73YGceY1AXYuIC4Aw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ
08:21:33  <andythenorth> want an SRN6
08:21:49  <Pikka> yes
08:22:20  <andythenorth> ony 9 http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/hovercraft-hover-craft-3d-3ds/573960
08:23:05  <Pikka> splendid
08:23:07  <Pikka> get two
08:23:12  <andythenorth> ooh a cheap SRN4 http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/max-sr-n4-hovercraft-bhc/765725
08:24:03  <andythenorth> puffer http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/old-steam-ship-3d-model/403357
08:24:26  <andythenorth> barge http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-dry-cargo-ship/772441
08:24:30  <andythenorth> this is easy :D
08:24:35  <andythenorth> all you need is money :P
08:25:11  * andythenorth -> cows, tractors, sheep, ice creams, car sickness
08:25:13  <andythenorth> going to be great
08:25:15  <andythenorth> bbl
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09:22:57  <Wolf01> anybody which have a logitech gaming mouse could help me?
09:23:55  <__ln__> *who
09:24:09  <Wolf01> s/which/who
09:24:09  <__ln__> *has
09:24:18  <Wolf01> s/have/has
09:24:22  <Wolf01> :)
09:25:10  * __ln__ is considering taking a beginner's course in italian
09:29:27  <Wolf01> I was good in italian, some years ago :P
09:30:40  <Wolf01> oh, I finally configured a macro succesfully
09:32:25  <Wolf01> I'm still wondering if is possible to configure a toggle
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09:56:42  <Xaroth|Work> Wolf01: the setpoint software you get with it allow you to configure your keys
09:58:11  <peter1138> If it decides to detect your mouse.
09:58:43  <peter1138> Most of the time it didn't recognise mine, so last reinstall I never bothered with it.
09:58:44  <Wolf01> yes I know, but it only allows to repeat every Nms toggle, instead I need a keep pressed until I press it again, I might need to learn lua to change the scripts
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13:03:48  <Alberth> anyone else has the problem that the cargo in the station window seems not to be updated in trunk?
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14:06:39  <Pikka> haven't noticed it, Alberth
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14:06:56  <Pikka> I'm on 26705
14:07:41  <Alberth> I tried downgrading to an earlier version, and downgrading SDL, but nothing works
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14:08:24  <Alberth> so it looks like it is a deeper issue, with the window manager or the kernel maybe even
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14:16:17  <Pikka> coooooool
14:16:34  <Pikka> no egrvs vehicles can carry coffee
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14:18:41  <Alberth> :o   I found it, the window was set to "Planned" cargoes, rather than "Waiting"!
14:18:47  <Pikka> haha
14:19:03  <Pikka> darn features
14:19:20  <Alberth> pretty much yeah :)
14:19:46  <Alberth> so it seems you must live without coffee, eh?
14:20:25  <Pikka> or build a train
14:20:28  <Pikka> if I could be bothered
14:20:31  <Pikka> which I can't
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14:25:55  <krinn> hi guys, do anyone knows place to doc the feature of GS scripts that get extra ticks at map creation?
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14:43:17  <keoz> Alberth : I had that once. Spent two hours trying to figure out what the hell was happening.
14:46:07  <Alberth> I can imagine :)
14:46:37  <Alberth> It may have cost me also around that amount of time
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14:56:56  <keoz> that was introduced by cargodist, wans'it ?
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15:02:17  <andythenorth_> Slow motorway is slow
15:02:30  <frosch123> don't chat while driving
15:02:49  <andythenorth_> I am pax
15:03:24  <andythenorth_> We are all, in a sense, pax
15:03:53  <frosch123> or meat cargo
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15:04:48  <andythen_> Hmm 4g is patchy
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15:09:34  <Pikka> innit thouguh
15:09:35  <Pikka> and
15:09:36  <Pikka> though
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15:12:28  <keoz> I recently changed house and had to stick for 3 weeks with 3g/4g. A pain...
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15:35:47  <Alberth> keoz: yes, the 'planned' cargo is part of cargo dist
15:36:03  <Alberth> try 2400 baud for a while :p
15:37:54  <keoz> Well. My laptop is not running anymore. Looks like this time, I really will have to learn how to deal with systemd's targets ...
15:38:39  <Alberth> oh dear :(
15:39:57  <keoz> It was easier with sysvinit.
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16:21:23  <keoz> graphical driver broken :/
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16:30:54  <andythenorth> Pikka so any interesting australia-boots? Or are boats just boats?
16:31:30  <Pikka> pretty much just boots I think
16:31:38  <Pikka> we like our catamarans around here though
16:32:38  <Pikka> I guess here our weather comes in chunks
16:32:57  <Pikka> it's either good weather, or the boats don't go out at all
16:33:07  <Pikka> that probably influences what kind of boots we have
16:33:37  <andythenorth> Any river boots?
16:34:48  <Pikka> notalot
16:34:55  <Pikka> a bit on the murray
16:35:01  <Pikka> ferries and barges here and there
16:36:14  <andythenorth> Is china part of australia?
16:36:30  <Pikka> probably
16:36:41  <Pikka> we're digging up australia and sending it to china as fast as we can
16:36:57  <andythenorth> Yangtze boots
16:37:18  <andythenorth> I had an idea about electriciticals cargo
16:37:27  <Pikka> uhoh
16:37:52  <andythenorth> Power station -> substation (in town)
16:38:07  <andythenorth> Transport similar to the PIPE grf
16:38:17  <andythenorth> Pipeline is awesome
16:38:34  <Pikka> brillig feetures
16:38:39  <andythenorth> Toves
16:39:00  <Pikka> they do
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16:40:54  <Pikka> and there's more where that came from
16:41:09  <andythenorth> two andythenorths
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16:52:19  <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes i wonder what language they speak...
16:53:10  <Alberth> andies or pikkas, I think
16:53:23  <andythenorth> pikkas is not a proper language
16:53:30  <andythenorth> all the verbs are wrong
16:53:39  <Pikka> might do
16:55:07  <andythenorth> I should fix my boots
16:55:10  <andythenorth> there is a problem
16:55:16  <Pikka> is there?
16:55:21  <andythenorth> buy menu order
16:55:26  <andythenorth> had an oops
16:55:27  <Pikka> oh
16:55:38  <andythenorth> the puffer is at the end of the list
16:55:43  <andythenorth> no good, no good at all
16:56:02  <Pikka> it should be the only thing on the buy list
16:56:05  <Pikka> all puffer, all the time
16:56:07  <andythenorth> maybe
16:56:14  <andythenorth> I did wonder
16:56:30  <andythenorth> maybe I do a roster with just three boats
16:56:39  <andythenorth> I could call it “Ha ha ha ha ha"
16:56:42  <andythenorth> or something
16:56:46  <Pikka> D:
16:56:52  * andythenorth is serious
16:56:59  <Pikka> 3 is not many
16:57:12  <andythenorth> well
16:57:25  <andythenorth> maybe they refit everything
16:57:36  <andythenorth> small ship, big ship, big fast ship?
16:57:41  <andythenorth> hmm unbalanced
16:57:57  <Pikka> small cheap ship, big ship, small fast ship
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16:58:42  <andythenorth> see, I think big ship and small fast ship are the same
16:58:48  <andythenorth> measured in cargo per hour or whatever
16:59:14  <Pikka> well
16:59:17  <peter1138> fix loading times
16:59:21  <peter1138> add ship collisions
16:59:24  <Pikka> big ship vs 2 small ships then, also the same
16:59:28  <Pikka> so really you only need one ship
16:59:39  <andythenorth> well, an upgrade to faster later?
16:59:54  <andythenorth> I guess faster is just like two slower ships
16:59:56  <andythenorth> so why bother
17:00:11  <Pikka> because hovercraft look cool
17:00:49  <Pikka> yes, also ship collisions and new(sea)ports
17:01:01  <Pikka> newzeeports
17:01:15  <Pikka> niewzeeprots
17:01:29  <andythenorth> multistop docks!
17:01:35  <peter1138> again
17:01:38  <andythenorth> always
17:01:43  <peter1138> i think that almost worked
17:01:49  <andythenorth> I think it did too
17:01:56  <andythenorth> I would have tested your patch for you :(
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17:07:22  <andythenorth> wasn’t there some thing about queuing or something?
17:08:21  <Alberth> that seems something that needs to be resolved
17:08:28  <peter1138> i never did queueing or dock reservation
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19:12:48  <andythenorth> so boring
19:12:51  <andythenorth> one coaster
19:12:53  <andythenorth> then a bigger one
19:12:56  <andythenorth> then more bigger ones
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19:28:40  <Alberth> keep the same one with a long life span
19:32:57  <DorpsGek> Commit by alberth :: r26723 trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp (2014-08-09 19:32:51 UTC)
19:32:58  <DorpsGek> -Fix[FS#5997]: Properly check for cargo acceptance of houses.
19:33:08  * andythenorth considers it
19:33:43  <Alberth> although you need something to mak the increasing industry production
19:33:49  <Alberth> s/make/handle/
19:33:59  <Alberth> bigger things are useful for that
19:34:08  <Alberth> and with autoreplace it's not that much trouble
19:39:21  <DorpsGek> Commit by alberth :: r26724 trunk/src/os/unix/unix.cpp (2014-08-09 19:39:14 UTC)
19:39:22  <DorpsGek> -Fix[FS#6077] Use the normal search path to look for xdg-open at Unix (kernigh2)
19:43:53  <andythenorth> fair point
19:44:01  <andythenorth> cargo volumes are lower in early game
19:44:24  <andythenorth> when I added very large steam cargo ships (900t, 1890 or so), I didn’t use them in my games
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19:46:55  <andythenorth> also bed time
19:47:09  <andythenorth> I have got in a pickle with python data structures, and need to sleep on it :P
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21:08:24  <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.webfail.com/b79a52947fd
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21:14:52  <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: has that vid only just got to German internet? :p
21:15:30  <Eddi|zuHause> possibly
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22:24:21  <Wolf01> 'night
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